2009 Campagnolo Super Record 11: TriSports.com at Interbike

[fishsd619]

11 Chainrings and 11 Casette Rings are the same thickness as 10. So wear is not an issue. Of course, the chain is narrower, 5.9 to a 5.5, so they had to toughen up the chain which "WILL NOT" stretch. They suggest replacing after 2000 miles. And... Campagnolo has been around a lot longer than SRAM.

[Kupalupsky]

can you ask please its frame Campagnolo material made by carbon fiber,thank you.

[snifnscratch]

Super record will be far more durable than dura ace or red

[JimexJimex]

I heard that chain wear is excessive in 11 Super Record.

Having that narrow chain, cassette and chainring makes the wear-out much quicker. The chain is worn out in 1200miles, that's more expensive than gas!

[jkdjedi]

Dura Ace are a nice setup. But Campagnolo just takes it to another level. Much like ferrari's do to sports cars.

[1982kyle1982]

Yea it may be 150% stiffer then last years, but its still 1000% less stiff then dura-ace. I find it kinda funny you buy the groupset minus the crank for 2500 then the crank for 1500 and you still have the same shiter design as shimano sora has. So yes it has one more speed but when your paying $200 for a chain I will take the lighter stiffer 10 speed.

[cd437mi]

You got any data to back that up. Or do you work for Shitano?

[1982kyle1982]

yea the facts are in the lambert catalog. ridden sram,shimano, and camppy, and actually like sram the best. Just saying if you wanna spend that tyoe of money get something that isn't crap.

[CalfeeGuy]

None of the three groupos you mentioned are crap! It boils down to personal preferance. I like Campy the best, but I don't like the price. SRAM is the lowest price for the weight.

[KneelArmstrong]

shitano lol, they aren't that bad, but campy is god.

[CalfeeGuy]

Dura Ace 7900 is not stiffer than Campy. There is nothing wrong with Shimano. In fact for the money, it is a better deal. But. if money is no object--Give me Campy.

[KneelArmstrong]

what is the difference b/w dura ace 7800 and 7900? I seem to read that people prefer 7800.

[bigrommie1234]

I doubt Dura Ace is 1000% stiffer. Funny how Shimano now looks like the old Campy..

[NsOSnipSU]

And campy is more of the old SHimano DA..

[PulletSurprise]

They all look a lot like SRAM, now.

[golfnut20]

How so?

[PulletSurprise]

Flat hood tops, offset brake levers, smaller "lumps" on the ends for the web of your thumb and pointer finger to lock into.

Everyone wants to be like SRAM, it seems.

I'll stick with my old Campy 10 speed stuff.

[golfnut20]

I suppose, but there is a major difference in shifting between Campy and Sram.

[PulletSurprise]

You'll spend some of the time shifting, but you'll spend all of the time holding onto the levers.

None of the currently produced systems have lever shapes that suit me, so I'll be recycling my old Campy 10 speed stuff for a long, long time.

[constructivereconcil]

@PulletSurprise "None of the currently produced systems have lever shapes that suit me, so I'll be recycling my old Campy 10 speed stuff for a long, long time."

I think Campagnolo have without question the most brilliant design engineers, especially considering their size. Having said that, you have an absolutely valid point, because none of these are deal-breakers or must-haves. Race equipment of the recent decade or so is all good enough to make sure you can't lose to superior equipment.

[KC93SE]

Back up your sources before you start chucking out numbers. I tell you what though, if DA was indeed that stiff, DA would not bend or be in need of any kind of replacement or adjustment for the lifetime of the unit. As for this shifters being like Sora, yea right. The basic principles remain the same, but the thumb lever is placed slightly more rearward and lower to allow shifting in the drops. Plus, with the new levers, you can up shift 5 gears at a time! Can't do that with Shimano.

[NsOSnipSU]

But again - Why the fuck do you need to shift 5 gears at a time?

[KC93SE]

For the pros, when they need to get that jump out of a corner, they can slam that thumb lever down, they shift up a few cogs and get that extra little bit of speed and distance on the competition.

For the recreational and weekend warriors, it may be overkill, but going up those gears quickly can help get the jump on friends in a bunch sprint, or to help get past or through dangerous road conditions.

[hateash101]

u might suddenly come to a really steep hill perhaps which you had not shifted to lower gears for beforehand.

[dcl97]

So you can double dump the gears. Essentially it allows you to immediately

move to your next chainring while maintaining a similar gear ratio.

[PulletSurprise]

Every review and test has Shimano, Campagnolo and SRAM on the level for stiffness when their top-end groups are compared.

[constructivereconcil]

@PulletSurprise "Every review and test has Shimano, Campagnolo and SRAM on the level for stiffness when their top-end groups are compared."

It's a bogus subjective "measure." As a 198-pound sprinter, who once raced on a Vitus, I can tell you that stiffness in today's equipment is purely perception, and does not affect performance in the slightest, except when you are beat up, therefore in today's market, comfort should be first criteria on decisions of otherwise race-proven equipment.

[PulletSurprise]

@constructivereconcil

You're preaching to the choir.

Unless the rims are smacking into the brakepads and the chain is grinding the FD cage, stiffness doesn't make a difference.