If all U can do is make these gay ass references about 1 man's phallus being inside or on another man, that's an CLEAR indication of juvenile frustration, because those kinda' remarks are what lil young ass idiots like yourself resort to when U can't refute what the other guy has said, and is just a childish attempt at distracting people from noticing that.
Do us a favor kid: take off your pink shirts & lil sister's skinny jeans, and just come out of the closet..
That's funny coming from some dumb ass 15 yr old who took offense at my position on religion, yet claims to be an atheist..SMH
"Face it, the only reason you get thumbs up is because people hate KB24"
If U believe that, then U really are DUMBER than a box of rocks..SMH
Go sit your confused, young ass down somewhere kid, and leave the basketball discussions to those of us who actually KNOW what they're talkin' about...
"It's not disrespecting the game by having an opinion"
It is when U try to claim that the facts of the matter are irrelevant in lieu of your opinion or worse, try & state it as fact, while insisting that the facts don't mean or prove anything.
"You just dissed religion"
You know NOTHING about religion kid...that's obvious.
You're the same guy that professed to be an atheist, so shut up! If it's 1 thing I DESPISE, it's a goddamn hypocrite!
It is when you're talkin' about gauging someone's level of skill in relation to others, because if you're TRULY more skilled than the next guy at ANY particular facet(s) of the game, it'll constantly be reflected there.
"you never respect Kobe for anything that he does"
I respect him, just not his dumb ass fans. And the reason being is that they disrespect the history of the game with their juvenile arrogant-ignorance.
About the bearded guy looking like leonidas, or zach galifianakis i got newz for you guys. Not all greek people have ridiculously long beards. Ok many do though!
Yeah, well... Magic did it for his entire career, AND won 5 titles, just like Kobe.. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, Junior, but there have been plenty of players the stature of Kobe Bryant in this league, but only one Magic Johnson.. And Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is the greatest BB player to ever walk the planet..
And he won 6 titles (not to mention 6 MVPs, 11 times all-defense, and the league's all-time scoring leader).. I'm sorry, but you're wrong..
I can respect your argument for Kareem being the GOAT and that he & Magic were better Lakers than kobe, because the facts about their careers has SERIOUS MERIT to it.
But these ignorant ass, delusional kobe homers (i.e. thug 8200), I can't stand, nor respect their asses because they're ignorant and disrespect the history of the game & its legendary players with their immaturity & stupidity..
And worse, they have the nerve to be arrogant about it..
I don't even have to go into Kareem's career because it speaks for itself. If these dumb kobe fan-boys don't know about him, then that's a testament to their ignorance but hey, they often aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.
Magic's on-court production is EASILY as good as Kobe's. Kobe only has a edge in blocks (slightly) & shot attempts LOL!!
He scored more efficiently, had more rebs, assists & steals. He also has more Finals MVPs than Kobe too, and was a FAR better leader.
@blackadam06 Listen everybody knows Magic is great but it doesnt take a genius to see that Kobe has surpassed him...He is a better scorer and a better deffender...Magic had more assists because he was a point guard and he had more rebounds because he is 6-9...Magic himself said that Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time...since they both played for LA their whole career Kobe is better...People just love the past and they will praise Kobe when he retires which is soon
Like I previously said, Magic's on-court production is EASILY as good as Kobe's. Kobe only has a slight edge in blocks & shot attempts.
"Magic had more assists because he was a point guard and he had more rebounds because he is 6-9"
Which was an ADVANTAGE for him. That's like saying: "the only reason kobe's FT shooting % is better than Shaq's is because he was a better shooter" LOL!!
"Kobe is better"
Show me some consistently better "overall" on-court results to PROVE it..
Honestly, this is what makes Kobe better than Lebron. Kobe studies the legends and adds things to his game. Lebron studies Lebron and considers himself above the game.
@dilan4me Are you an idiot, or something?.. Olajuwon used that forward spin in the 95 Western Conference Finals against David Robinson, and made him look like a fool.. Lemme know when Kobe cracks the top 3 of his franchise, dipschitt..
@thug8200 Really?.. Better than Magic?.. Better than Kareem?.. Better than "The Logo?".. Like I said, lemme know when Kobe cracks the top 3 of his own franchise..
And BTW, the earth wasn't formed 25 years ago, dummy..
@roo7227 yes when they've even admitted it hell jerry said hes the best player he has ever seen most hardworking and gifted scorer and SKILLED watch the video its on youtube
@thug8200 Whatever, Jr.. Has Kobe EVER accounted for 42 PPG offense, on average, in a single season?.. Cause the Magic Man did it FOR HIS CAREER.. Has Kobe ever been finals MVP at age 38?.. How about 6 league MVPs, Kobe ever done that?..
How about leading the league, at one time or another at PPG, RPG, BPG, minutes played, and PER?.. The ONLY person to ever do that is Kareem.. Felling stupid, yet?..
He was referring to kobe in regards to laker history, not league history dumb ass...SMH
U silly ass kobe homers kill me with trying to take that outta context to suit your own delusions of grandeur about him. And U STILL haven't answered my question: if he's the most "skilled/gifted" scorer in history, how come the offensive RESULTS of his alleged superior skill doesn't ever consistently reflect it?
@blackadam06 john wooden also called him the goat all these stats and shit mean nothing its all about the eye test and nobody who has ever played is more skilled then kobe period
A) If kobe's what U say he is in regards to talent and skill, then WHY doesn't he consistently go out & put the kinda' jaw dropping on-court production night in & night out to PROVE it?
B) With this alleged superior skill of his, why can't or doesn't he consistently put up equal or better #s than MJ, especially since now he's playing under rules that even the league's top officials admits favors guys like him?
@blackadam06 a hes been hurt for how long and still puts up numbers and you act like doesnt have a fuckin team around him and he does not have to any more
Having "a team" alleviates the MAJORITY of his responsibility offensively, making it easier.
MJ consistently put up BETTER (and more efficient) offensive production than kobe both B4 & during "having a team", and put up #s that are CLOSE to kobe's career avg as a Wizard, some 14-15 yrs removed from his prime & at ages 39-40.
So once again, why can't kobe consistently match or exceed that, since U say he's "more skilled", not to mention younger & playing under rules that favors him?
No dumb ass, he said he's "better" suited at using these moves, because they're really tailored made for a perimeter player.
U idiot kobe homers kill me with ALWAYS trying to take shit outta context to suit your own delusions about him.
Now answer my previous question: why doesn't kobe's alleged superior skill ever bring him consistently better individual production than MJ, despite playing under rules designed to favor perimeter players?
@gregferg927 except that he passed him up on the scoring ladder, has more rings, has more skill, has greater longetivity, is quicker, and all around a better first option. yeah hakeem> kobe
@cloudzero1 It's true. Kobe will never compare. But who cares? Kobe has made it his business to distinguish himself in his own way. You talk about metrics that aren't realistic. Be a fan not a fanboy.
@cloudzero1 The only factor that will differentiate them is time. To be honest, Olajuwon didn't have the support that Kobe had. "WHAT?!", you say? I mean that Olajuwon didn't have the same kind of help. Yes, he had Scottie, Horry, Casell, Clyde & Barkley. But Barkley was a fat bum by the time he got to Houston & Scottie was out of place. Horry, Drexler & Cassell helped him get rings. So we can't make that argument.
In the end, only time will tell. Besides, they play different positions.
@cloudzero1 They play different positions you can't really compare them.... besides its mainly a guard legaue right now there realy arent any domnate big man so having hakeem might not be a bad idea
@cujo3155 Hakeem Olajuwon is a Muslim American, fully practicing, and invites young Muslim ball players from the mosque to learn some fundamentals. That kid is probably Arab and probably has the beard to express that he's Muslim. Now if you can move the dumb terrorist jokes aside, a legacy of Muslim Americans is right here in this video.. one of the greatest centers of all time, Hakeem Olajuwon. In the Quran, Hakeem means "wise one", and he is imparting his wisdom to Kobe right here.
@cujo3155 Yeah sorry if it made it seem like I was directing it to you - I was not. Just a general comment for everyone. We have all these negative images of Muslims all over and here's one just being a baller. Anyway, no need for politics so I'll shut up, just great basketball to watch here.
@fightourfuture Yea also don't forget Kareem was a Muslim too....But its not about religion its about Basketball Hakeem was the man...and Kobe is such a hard worker he is always trying to develop somethin new every off season
@SomeWriterGuy Rick Barry had Jamaal Wilkes and Phil Smith to help him out both of which are ALL STAR Players during their time and they were coached by a very capable Coach by the name of Al Attles. So you better do your research man and don't make baseless assumptions.
@quiver11 no, YOU are doing baseless assumptions. did you know Phil Smith averaged just 7.7 points per game that year and wilkes only 14.2? And neither of them reached the all star game until 1976. as for attles, he was only 39 games above 500 for his career coaching record and missed the playoffs 8 out of 14 seasons. Barry had over 30 points a game, led the league in free throw percentage, led the league in steals with 2.9 and carried a 48-34 team to a sweep over the 60-22 bullets. YOU research
In the Youtube video " All Access Ahmad Rashad with Kobe Interview" Kobe says if he could change one thing about himself it would be to have bigger hands at about 1 minute and 45 seconds in.
those moves also broke Kobe's knees, shorten his career, doo you guys really like to see that? I don't think a 6'6 SG can use those post moves to dominate post area, Kobe should just learn from MJ's post move, thats for his height. Too many spin moves will only injure his knees.
its great to see that even Kobe at his age & @ this point of his career he is still willing to add new elements to his game! Shows the heart of a true leader and champion!!& even though i am a huge Celtics fan any basketball follower regardless of who they follow should admire this!!!
Ill never think that Kobe is on the same level as Jordan. No one is. But Kobe has earned my respect be how hard he works on his game. Working with the dream to develop a post game is just awesome. How many other players would think of doing that especially one that is arguably the best in the game.
Get off Kobe's nuts. He is on the pace for the most missed shots in NBA history. He is not the most consistent player. Quit kidding yourselves. The most efficient players can truly be only centers like Hakeem and Kareem and even Shaq. Learn your basketball please.
@jpcownsyou He's also moving up the NBA all-time scoring list, while taking less shots to get there than most of the guys he is passing.
Kobe is 10th all-time in FG attempts, and 8th in total points scored. He's about to pass Elvin Hayes, having taken 3000+ LESS shots to get there.
I agree that True Centers will have an overall more efficient shooting game, due to the type of shots they take. But let's not pretend Kobe hasn't been efficient getting here.
"He's also moving up the NBA all-time scoring list, while taking less shots to get there than most"
How ignorant & uninformed are U kid?
Kobe's taken WELL OVER 20,000 career shots & hasn't even made 10,000 of 'em yet, so WTF are U talkin' about?!! He aint efficient..he's a volume shooter!
He just became the All Time leader for the most MISSED playoff shots this year, and has TWICE missed the most shots in a finals series! He's also shot 40% or LOWER in 5 finals now!
@blackadam06 "and has TWICE missed the most shots in a finals series!"
That's something MJ did 6 out of 6 times, btw.
And when Kobe passed both Hayes and Hakeem recently, he had taken less shots to get the same amount of points. Sounds good to me. Some of that has to do with getting to the line more, but you can't fault Kobe for earning free throws.
The internet screaming you basically did made me laugh a bit though.
@Brad633 What kind of team will win a championship without having some sort of a interior presence? I also never said anything about guards and small forwards not being needed in the game.
Not that I don't rate Kobe because I do, 81pts is obviously an amazing stat but I feel it more important to look at a career there are a lot of other factors opposed to a players ability that effects a player scoring 81pts in one particular game. That said I know you weren't belittling Jordan and Kobes game speaks for itself, without that record he is still one of the all-time greats.
U obviously know a lot of stats regarding the nba, either that of you just were trying to prove an unprovable point by scouring the internet. Im a Jordan fan and would fight his corner, but there is something lacking upstairs if to come out with statements like 'Kobe IS definitely one of the worst shooters the NBA has ever seen; and 'some sissy circle jerk without defense!' Do yourself a favour browse the web look at the general consensus as to whether Kobe is a terrible shooter.
U obviously know a lot of stats regarding the nba, either that of you just were trying to prove an unprovable point by scouring the internet. Im a Jordan fan and would fight his corner, but there is something lacking upstairs if to come out with statements like 'Kobe IS definitely one of the worst shooters the NBA has ever seen; and 'some sissy circle jerk without defense!' Do yourself a favour browse the web look at the general consensus as to whether Kobe is a terrible shooter.
The brains behind the game obviously rate Kobe not too poorly. 'He's an inconsistent ballhogging diva, with the basketball I.Q. of an 8 year old. + He was saved by team mates in every single one of his finals' as for this, ok the guy goes for glory and that is why he managed 81pts. If no-one went for glory the games would remain scoreless, prefer that? But Im guessing you are over 8yrs old? Does that mean your basketball IQ is superior to his or does that make you a toddler?
While I respect your opinion, I will stay with my point, because IT IS TRUE. Kobe is one of the most inconsistent players, especially in FG%, the NBA has ever seen. I'm tired of kids rating a player's value because of ONE SINGLE GAME of 81 points. That's childish.
And no, I don't care for the "general consensus", because it is (and has ALWAYS been) biased. I'm against hive mind and prefer objective thinking. I'm not hating on Kobe. Entertaining player, but nowhere NEAR in class.
Also you can't deny the fact that today's league is unbearable to watch. I personally know a lot of die hard NBA fans. Real freaks who love the game with all their heart for centuries. But even THEY can't look at this pathetic situation anymore because it hurts to see what has become of this sport. Defense is practically non-existant past 2002 rule changes. Kids think the legality of "zone defense" is something new, but the rules were made to SUPPORT scorers! Not the other way around.
Duh... why is every video polluted with MJ/Kobe shit.
Kids need to realize there is NOTHING to compare!
Kobe already plays longer in the NBA than MJ ever did and the gap between them is so vastly huge, Kobe would need another 2 lifetimes to achieve what MJ did. He is better in literally every category. +Kobe is one of the worst shooters ever. (And yes, I have plenty of stats to back this up) He is just an overhyped ballhog that obsessively tries to mimic Jordan and fails.
@megatroll r u autistic? that was the dumbest shit i've ever read...its like saying Lebron sucks at basketball...ur a fucking a dumbass u know that u don't have to like the guy or even think hes better than jordan, but respect his game, Kobe is easily one of the best 2 shooting guards to ever play the game whether u think he's better than Jordan or not, that is debatable now shutup n go learn basketball
Trust me, Kobe IS definitely one of the worst shooters the NBA has ever seen and I will prove it to you when I come home from college. (I'm short before leaving the house) By the way his overall stats increased by 24% AFTER the rule changes! And saying he's anywhere NEAR Jordan is an insult. He's an inconsistent ballhogging diva, with the basketball I.Q. of an 8 year old. + He was saved by team mates in every single one of his finals LMAO...
And you DARE to compare this guy to the greatest of all time??? Seriously, NOBODY makes these silly comparisons except YOU delusional 12 year olds who have never even witnessed basketball pre-2000, when the sport was what it's supposed to be! Not some sissy circle jerk without defense! I hope you've learned your lesson for today and stop comparing your "heroes" with true legends of the sport.
I don't argue with handicaps sorry u can sit naming all his bad stats all day he still has more game winners than ur boy scored 81 points to ur boys 69 and has 5 NBA championships...ya stfu
I think at this point it is more than obvious, you reached the point of realizing your hero is merely a dramatized media bitch and you see no other way out than to throw shit at me. Just as I expected of childish Kobe dickriding kid.
@megatroll u can shit out wtv stats u want, but kobe scored 81 pts at above 60% shooting.. whats jordan's highest in a game again?.. check ur stat book for it.. n once ur done, shove it up ur ass!
I gave you documented proof and YOU go and rate a player's overall value by ONE SINGLE GAME??? In case you didn't know, Wilt Chamberlain made 100 points and I bet his opponents weren't as bored to death as Kobe's for that matter. It's no use talking to you kid. You fail to take off your love glasses and get wind up in delusional bullshit.
Maybe he should've asked MJ for help since Hakeen credits MJ for helping him out w/ his moves. Hakeem has stated that he studied tape of Jordan and tried to copy his footwork.
kobe might be in a great team now, but jordan had scottie pippen and some great role players in rodman, longley and armstrong and them. no player EVER has won a championship by himself
@cobrasplayer u r talking nonsense... Longley was one of the worst centers in the NBA and Armstrong was a basic PG, Kobe has Fisher, Gasol and another good center in Bynum all better than Jordan's supporting cast holding the same positions.
@rondam10 Are you okay dude. Jordan>Lebron>Kobe. Lebron is the only player to ever actually carry a team. Kobe scored 80, by ball hogging. Jordan is just the greatest by every single measure. Longley was a decent center, Armstrong could be a basic PG with the likes of Rodman, Jordan, or Pippen. Watch em...
@rondam10 how is armstrong a basic PG and fisher not? rodman and pippen had jordans back same as pau and LO got kobes now. and u cant just dismiss kobe cos hes got slightly better teammates than jordan, true jordan is the greatest ever and probz wont be matched, but kobe still got his claim to relevance. its just sad the man can win 5 championships and counting and all anyone can think of is he didnt get as many mvps as jordan and shit
@guitarsANDcars39 he averaged 10 points in the finals shooting 43% you dumbass are you saying he was another all star on his team? he was an average player you moron... watch espn they make fun of him for riding hakkeem for a title... idiot.... learn basketball
@Fujico6 no im saying hes an all star U FUCKING DUMBASS. Hakeem needed Kenny Smith to make his 3 pointers to win championships. hakeem did a lot of work for his team which made him great but he didn't win the games alone. He had teammates like Kenny Smith, RObert Horry, and Sam Cassell to help him. He had a team. STFU BITCH
@guitarsANDcars39 every player h as 4 other players on your team you dumbass but your comment was dumb because hakeem carried his whole team by himself if you even watched... he had the ball every play and kenny smith played like shit in the finals i just told you he shot 43% and averaged 9 points thats not helping ... he was the only all star on that team and he had all average players... so shut up you moron about teams dont win it with 1 player cause hakeem did
@Fujico6 OMG U DO NOT KNOW ROCKETS BASKETBALL. PLEASE JUST THE SHUT THE FUCK UP. ITS A FUCKING TEAM GAME U DUMB PIECE OF SHIT. Hakeem did not win by himself u cunt. Yeah, kenny smith did not play great all games of the finals but he did score right? Clyde Drexler scored some points, Robert Horry scored some points, Sam Cassell scored some points, Mario Elie scored some points. OH DONT TELL ME U DONT KNOW MARIO ELIE's last second shot against phoenix. STFU U STUPID BITCH
@guitarsANDcars39 you cut your wrist over my comment? the rockets sucked and hakeem brought them a championship shut up you tool. you said there was no team that ever won a title with 1 all star and I just told you the rockets did.. yeah hakeem best field goal percentage most points most blocks most steals most free throws and 2nd most assist and the best + - ratio all playoffs yeah he pretty much carried his team on his back... shut up you fag
@cobrasplayer Thank you. Finally someone who knows what he's talking about. I hate it when idiots like Tim Duncan fans think the Spurs won championships because of him. While he had great role cast players around him and a great coach.
@Deadshot089 Tim Duncan is the greatest PF of all time and while he didn't win the championships by himself, he was a HUGE part in winning them just as Jordan was a huge part in winning his, Kobe with his, Russell with his.
@cobrasplayer Luc Longley? B.J. Armstrong? They we're good because they knew how to handle their limited roles. Great players take the pressure off role players and allow them to excel in given situations. But I would never equate them to being great because all those players you mentioned we're interchangeable. The Bulls brought in other guys like Buechler and LaRue and still won. Not because "greatness" of the role players. It was mainly on the backs of Jordan and Pippen.
i've never seen kobe use this move in a real game yet.....maybe someone can find the highlight for me?
r0ck3ts11 7 months ago
@r0ck3ts11 he didn't teach him just one move, he taught how to operate in the post, which is what Kobe's been doin lately
alfonzolamar 2 weeks ago
press 5 and it sounds like he's saying goodie XD
MrMacadoshish 7 months ago
lebron traveled.
MrKman08 7 months ago
Why so much arguing...... If anything Kobe has great respect for Hakeem
Rsaint17 7 months ago
@SanctifyXu
"fans they are just pissed off that whenever they complement Kobe, you feel like it is your job to tarnish Kobe's reputation"
How silly is that kid? U sound like a damnidiot..SMH
How the hell can I "tarnish his rep" by stating FACTS about what he's actually DONE & consistently doesm when they can be verified?
I didn't make up kobe's career #s..he did, so take it up with him if U don't like how they look in these discussions.
"Grow up man"
That's funny considering the source..
blackadam06 7 months ago
@SanctifyXu
Cyber bully? How bitch-made is that? LOL!! I've only stated the FACTS, something I've noticed that dummies like yourself have a SERIOUS disdain for.
And yeah I have 14 yrs of religious research to my credit? What of it?
"Get a job and a life"
Really? This coming from someone who LITERALLY DEPENDS on others to provide for him..SMH
"Most of the people you argue with actually play the game"
I guess U think no one else played the game B4 U were born huh?
SanctifyXu = dumb ass kid
blackadam06 7 months ago
@SanctifyXu
SMH...
If all U can do is make these gay ass references about 1 man's phallus being inside or on another man, that's an CLEAR indication of juvenile frustration, because those kinda' remarks are what lil young ass idiots like yourself resort to when U can't refute what the other guy has said, and is just a childish attempt at distracting people from noticing that.
Do us a favor kid: take off your pink shirts & lil sister's skinny jeans, and just come out of the closet..
blackadam06 7 months ago
@SanctifyXu
"Don't call me a hypocrite"
That's funny coming from some dumb ass 15 yr old who took offense at my position on religion, yet claims to be an atheist..SMH
"Face it, the only reason you get thumbs up is because people hate KB24"
If U believe that, then U really are DUMBER than a box of rocks..SMH
Go sit your confused, young ass down somewhere kid, and leave the basketball discussions to those of us who actually KNOW what they're talkin' about...
blackadam06 7 months ago
@SanctifyXu
"It's not disrespecting the game by having an opinion"
It is when U try to claim that the facts of the matter are irrelevant in lieu of your opinion or worse, try & state it as fact, while insisting that the facts don't mean or prove anything.
"You just dissed religion"
You know NOTHING about religion kid...that's obvious.
You're the same guy that professed to be an atheist, so shut up! If it's 1 thing I DESPISE, it's a goddamn hypocrite!
blackadam06 7 months ago
@SanctifyXu
"If you got something to say to me, say it to every one"
Why? I was only talkin' to U? I have NO PROBLEM stating my position on any subject.
"You're a fake tough guy who thinks MJ is a god"
No you're just a ignorant ass kobe homer who thinks that.
"You're clearly a Kobe hater."
You're clearly a ignorance lover.
"You clearly do not play basketball"
No not anymore..
All I know are stats? SMH..if U believe that, U CLEARLY are an idiot..
blackadam06 7 months ago
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blackadam06 7 months ago
@SanctifyXu
Some of MJ's career avg's were brought DOWN due to his stint in Washington.
And when it comes to who was consistently MORE dominant, it's not even a comparison..it's a joke
U have NO IDEA what you're talkin' about..
blackadam06 7 months ago
@SanctifyXu
"It's not all about stats"
It is when you're talkin' about gauging someone's level of skill in relation to others, because if you're TRULY more skilled than the next guy at ANY particular facet(s) of the game, it'll constantly be reflected there.
"you never respect Kobe for anything that he does"
I respect him, just not his dumb ass fans. And the reason being is that they disrespect the history of the game with their juvenile arrogant-ignorance.
blackadam06 7 months ago
1:41 African laugh
rocktr36 7 months ago 13
@rocktr36 hahaha. i love it, really no racism from my side, i just love it. so sympathetic.
schmui 7 months ago
traitor. haha
Hendrixking14 7 months ago
Moses taught Dream to be tough
MrBeanage 7 months ago
training from video
enrico5296 7 months ago
RONDO watched this.
natarts892000 7 months ago
About the bearded guy looking like leonidas, or zach galifianakis i got newz for you guys. Not all greek people have ridiculously long beards. Ok many do though!
topografer 7 months ago
whiteboy? i hate that double standard. you can say whiteboy but i can't say black boy
barudzija7 8 months ago
Yeah, well... Magic did it for his entire career, AND won 5 titles, just like Kobe.. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, Junior, but there have been plenty of players the stature of Kobe Bryant in this league, but only one Magic Johnson.. And Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is the greatest BB player to ever walk the planet..
And he won 6 titles (not to mention 6 MVPs, 11 times all-defense, and the league's all-time scoring leader).. I'm sorry, but you're wrong..
roo7227 8 months ago
@roo7227
I can respect your argument for Kareem being the GOAT and that he & Magic were better Lakers than kobe, because the facts about their careers has SERIOUS MERIT to it.
But these ignorant ass, delusional kobe homers (i.e. thug 8200), I can't stand, nor respect their asses because they're ignorant and disrespect the history of the game & its legendary players with their immaturity & stupidity..
And worse, they have the nerve to be arrogant about it..
blackadam06 8 months ago
@roo7227
I don't even have to go into Kareem's career because it speaks for itself. If these dumb kobe fan-boys don't know about him, then that's a testament to their ignorance but hey, they often aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.
Magic's on-court production is EASILY as good as Kobe's. Kobe only has a edge in blocks (slightly) & shot attempts LOL!!
He scored more efficiently, had more rebs, assists & steals. He also has more Finals MVPs than Kobe too, and was a FAR better leader.
blackadam06 8 months ago
@blackadam06 Listen everybody knows Magic is great but it doesnt take a genius to see that Kobe has surpassed him...He is a better scorer and a better deffender...Magic had more assists because he was a point guard and he had more rebounds because he is 6-9...Magic himself said that Kobe is the greatest Laker of all-time...since they both played for LA their whole career Kobe is better...People just love the past and they will praise Kobe when he retires which is soon
lilzack24 7 months ago
@lilzack24
Like I previously said, Magic's on-court production is EASILY as good as Kobe's. Kobe only has a slight edge in blocks & shot attempts.
"Magic had more assists because he was a point guard and he had more rebounds because he is 6-9"
Which was an ADVANTAGE for him. That's like saying: "the only reason kobe's FT shooting % is better than Shaq's is because he was a better shooter" LOL!!
"Kobe is better"
Show me some consistently better "overall" on-court results to PROVE it..
blackadam06 7 months ago
can somebody give the website to watch nba playoffs 2011 live?><
VeGa4896 8 months ago
@VeGa4896 google
dawnoflife3 8 months ago
@VeGa4896 why not just watch on tv..
imCopacetic 8 months ago
@VeGa4896 atdhe.net
GOtit43 8 months ago
@VeGa4896
gidf.de
malenmitalex 8 months ago
Honestly, this is what makes Kobe better than Lebron. Kobe studies the legends and adds things to his game. Lebron studies Lebron and considers himself above the game.
daimon7 9 months ago
@daimon7 agreed
lololsdadsa 8 months ago
@DrFreshPickle The one in the purple, he's shorter than the guy outside, which is Hakeem.
KCpro15 9 months ago
lebron need to get his hoe ass in the gym with Olajuwon think if he had a mid range post game. im not a lebron fan. but he would average 30ppg. easy
colethomas2009 9 months ago
@colethomas2009
Lebron already gets into the lane whenever he wants. He just needs to stop settling for jumpers...
mattroom 9 months ago
@mattroom i hear you but due maybe post up at most 4 or 5 times a game and usualy its a fadeaway
colethomas2009 9 months ago
@colethomas2009 id say 35 easy lebrons growing post game is already near unstoppable, just look at what his field goal percentage is doing.
jonnieos 9 months ago
kobe not only learn this move but he improved and perfect this move with a forward spin leaving the defender behind him
dilan4me 10 months ago
@dilan4me Are you an idiot, or something?.. Olajuwon used that forward spin in the 95 Western Conference Finals against David Robinson, and made him look like a fool.. Lemme know when Kobe cracks the top 3 of his franchise, dipschitt..
roo7227 10 months ago
@roo7227 he is the best laker ever
thug8200 8 months ago
@thug8200 Really?.. Better than Magic?.. Better than Kareem?.. Better than "The Logo?".. Like I said, lemme know when Kobe cracks the top 3 of his own franchise..
And BTW, the earth wasn't formed 25 years ago, dummy..
roo7227 8 months ago
@roo7227 yes when they've even admitted it hell jerry said hes the best player he has ever seen most hardworking and gifted scorer and SKILLED watch the video its on youtube
thug8200 8 months ago
@thug8200 OK, I can put him at #3, that's acceptable.. He's better than the logo.. Happy?..
roo7227 8 months ago
@roo7227 hes better then anyone who has put on a laker jersey
thug8200 8 months ago
@thug8200 Whatever, Jr.. Has Kobe EVER accounted for 42 PPG offense, on average, in a single season?.. Cause the Magic Man did it FOR HIS CAREER.. Has Kobe ever been finals MVP at age 38?.. How about 6 league MVPs, Kobe ever done that?..
How about leading the league, at one time or another at PPG, RPG, BPG, minutes played, and PER?.. The ONLY person to ever do that is Kareem.. Felling stupid, yet?..
roo7227 8 months ago
@roo7227 THAT KAREEM QUESTION WAS BULLSHIT BECAUSE HE IS ONLY 32 COME ON DONT GET FLUSTERED AND ACCOUNT FOR 42 PPG IN THE PLAYOFFS YES 01 08 09 10
thug8200 8 months ago
@thug8200
"jerry said hes the best player he has ever seen"
He was referring to kobe in regards to laker history, not league history dumb ass...SMH
U silly ass kobe homers kill me with trying to take that outta context to suit your own delusions of grandeur about him. And U STILL haven't answered my question: if he's the most "skilled/gifted" scorer in history, how come the offensive RESULTS of his alleged superior skill doesn't ever consistently reflect it?
blackadam06 8 months ago
@thug8200
And kobe's NEVER avg'd 40+ppg in season or playoff series, so quit lying kid..
U ignorant ass kobe homers are ALWAYS lying to try & prop him up over people who've simply done it better.
He can't even consistently avg 30ppg, so get outta here with that bullsh*t..
blackadam06 8 months ago
@blackadam06 lmao hes avg 37 thats good enough
thug8200 8 months ago
@thug8200
Kobe's NEVER avg'd 37ppg in a season U fuckin' idiot!
MJ however has, and for half that season ('87), he avg'd 40ppg on 51% shooting & that's a fact!
blackadam06 8 months ago
@blackadam06 no at the end he clearly seperates the 2 best laker ever and best player he ever seen
thug8200 8 months ago
@blackadam06 john wooden also called him the goat all these stats and shit mean nothing its all about the eye test and nobody who has ever played is more skilled then kobe period
thug8200 8 months ago
@thug8200
"all these stats and shit mean nothing"
Then why'd U just try to use 'em to say he avg'd 37ppg (which he didn't)?
"its all about the eye test"
Nobody's level of skill & talent in the history of sports has EVER been defined by how they "look" doing it. That's just dumb ass kid talk.
"nobody who has ever played is more skilled then kobe"
If that's true he wouldn't be in this video moron..SMH And what's funny is his post game STILL is nowhere on the level of a Olajuwon or MJ's.
blackadam06 8 months ago
@thug8200
Now answer my questions..
A) If kobe's what U say he is in regards to talent and skill, then WHY doesn't he consistently go out & put the kinda' jaw dropping on-court production night in & night out to PROVE it?
B) With this alleged superior skill of his, why can't or doesn't he consistently put up equal or better #s than MJ, especially since now he's playing under rules that even the league's top officials admits favors guys like him?
Just answer the questions..
blackadam06 8 months ago
@blackadam06 a hes been hurt for how long and still puts up numbers and you act like doesnt have a fuckin team around him and he does not have to any more
thug8200 8 months ago
@thug8200
Having "a team" alleviates the MAJORITY of his responsibility offensively, making it easier.
MJ consistently put up BETTER (and more efficient) offensive production than kobe both B4 & during "having a team", and put up #s that are CLOSE to kobe's career avg as a Wizard, some 14-15 yrs removed from his prime & at ages 39-40.
So once again, why can't kobe consistently match or exceed that, since U say he's "more skilled", not to mention younger & playing under rules that favors him?
blackadam06 8 months ago
@blackadam06 lmao hakeem said hes better then him so your point is irrelevant
thug8200 8 months ago
@thug8200
No dumb ass, he said he's "better" suited at using these moves, because they're really tailored made for a perimeter player.
U idiot kobe homers kill me with ALWAYS trying to take shit outta context to suit your own delusions about him.
Now answer my previous question: why doesn't kobe's alleged superior skill ever bring him consistently better individual production than MJ, despite playing under rules designed to favor perimeter players?
Why do U avoid my question?
blackadam06 8 months ago
@blackadam06 yes he did i watched it enough to know what he said you just dont wanna admit it
thug8200 8 months ago
@thug8200
No U hear what U want to hear, and discard that which doesn't fit into your fantasy..
But besides that, I'd like for U to answer to my question..
blackadam06 8 months ago
@dilan4me no sir Hakeen perfected the move Kobe could never compare to the greatness of Hakeem
gregferg927 10 months ago
@gregferg927 except that he passed him up on the scoring ladder, has more rings, has more skill, has greater longetivity, is quicker, and all around a better first option. yeah hakeem> kobe
cloudzero1 10 months ago
@cloudzero1 It's true. Kobe will never compare. But who cares? Kobe has made it his business to distinguish himself in his own way. You talk about metrics that aren't realistic. Be a fan not a fanboy.
upabittoolate 10 months ago
@upabittoolate no hate, just replying to the guy who thinks REALISTICALLY and not by LIKABILITY that hakeem is a better player than kobe.
cloudzero1 10 months ago
@cloudzero1 The only factor that will differentiate them is time. To be honest, Olajuwon didn't have the support that Kobe had. "WHAT?!", you say? I mean that Olajuwon didn't have the same kind of help. Yes, he had Scottie, Horry, Casell, Clyde & Barkley. But Barkley was a fat bum by the time he got to Houston & Scottie was out of place. Horry, Drexler & Cassell helped him get rings. So we can't make that argument.
In the end, only time will tell. Besides, they play different positions.
upabittoolate 10 months ago
@cloudzero1 They play different positions you can't really compare them.... besides its mainly a guard legaue right now there realy arent any domnate big man so having hakeem might not be a bad idea
burgers112706 9 months ago
@dilan4me we all know who is the most skilled and best foot work player in the history of the nba
dilan4me 10 months ago
Lol, I bet Kobe had the happy image of Dream sweeping Shaq in Orlando in the back of his mind.
Dream training Kobe and Howard, like Moses trained him.
MrBeanage 10 months ago
You can argue between who Jordan and Kobe had.
Dream's 1st ring: Kenny Smith, Vernon Maxwell, Otis Thorpe, Robert (rookie) Horry
All on your shoulders Dream! Love you.
MrBeanage 10 months ago
why does the footage look like its from the 1990's?
WushuDude13 10 months ago
its crazy cuz now this is one of kobe illest moves
TdotJohn 10 months ago
Has anyone noticed the random bearded whiteboy on the court? lol
cujo3155 10 months ago 48
@cujo3155 looks like Zach Galifianakis
mdwivedi 10 months ago 48
@mdwivedi LOOKS LIKE LEONIDAS!!
diopodio 8 months ago
@cujo3155 son, the random beared boy is probably his friend from a local mosque. he's muslim, so that's completely possible.
jabba212 9 months ago
@cujo3155 I dont see him
AirDB23 8 months ago
@cujo3155 Hakeem Olajuwon is a Muslim American, fully practicing, and invites young Muslim ball players from the mosque to learn some fundamentals. That kid is probably Arab and probably has the beard to express that he's Muslim. Now if you can move the dumb terrorist jokes aside, a legacy of Muslim Americans is right here in this video.. one of the greatest centers of all time, Hakeem Olajuwon. In the Quran, Hakeem means "wise one", and he is imparting his wisdom to Kobe right here.
fightourfuture 8 months ago 12
@fightourfuture never even hinted at anything terrorist-related or racist, but alright
cujo3155 8 months ago
@cujo3155 Yeah sorry if it made it seem like I was directing it to you - I was not. Just a general comment for everyone. We have all these negative images of Muslims all over and here's one just being a baller. Anyway, no need for politics so I'll shut up, just great basketball to watch here.
fightourfuture 8 months ago
@fightourfuture
I agree, just because he's muslim doesn't mean he's hostile. Bad stereotypes take time to die I guess.
echoplex89 8 months ago
@fightourfuture Yea also don't forget Kareem was a Muslim too....But its not about religion its about Basketball Hakeem was the man...and Kobe is such a hard worker he is always trying to develop somethin new every off season
lilzack24 7 months ago
@fightourfuture and dont forget kareem abdul jabbar
16lakerpride24 7 months ago
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@fightourfuture Are you muslim?
L3g3ndkill4 7 months ago
Centers that are Muslim: Shaq (Look it up), Kareem Abdur Jabbar, Olajuwon
OmarChannel 1 month ago
@cujo3155 what whiteboy?
bone009 7 months ago
subtitles?
Liqu1d16 10 months ago
every body knows one player can't win championships be for real
tmizzleful 11 months ago
@tmizzleful actually you're wrong you could make a case that rick barry did when the gs warriors won it in 1975.
SomeWriterGuy 10 months ago
@SomeWriterGuy Rick Barry had Jamaal Wilkes and Phil Smith to help him out both of which are ALL STAR Players during their time and they were coached by a very capable Coach by the name of Al Attles. So you better do your research man and don't make baseless assumptions.
quiver11 10 months ago
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SomeWriterGuy 10 months ago
@quiver11 no, YOU are doing baseless assumptions. did you know Phil Smith averaged just 7.7 points per game that year and wilkes only 14.2? And neither of them reached the all star game until 1976. as for attles, he was only 39 games above 500 for his career coaching record and missed the playoffs 8 out of 14 seasons. Barry had over 30 points a game, led the league in free throw percentage, led the league in steals with 2.9 and carried a 48-34 team to a sweep over the 60-22 bullets. YOU research
SomeWriterGuy 10 months ago
@SomeWriterGuy You just owned that dude quiver.
HereisRoderick 10 months ago
Two-ston Legend
hiramclarketx79 11 months ago
i wanna learn the dream shake too
AwfulXXXNoob 11 months ago
@1:16 didnt know kobe can palm the ball and phil jackson talking about michael have million dollar hands and kobe dont
911firestone1 11 months ago
@911firestone1 not as big doe , even kobe said if his hands was bigger he would never take three pointers just drive the ball all the tyme
FREEDOM23100 11 months ago
@911firestone1
In the Youtube video " All Access Ahmad Rashad with Kobe Interview" Kobe says if he could change one thing about himself it would be to have bigger hands at about 1 minute and 45 seconds in.
PrimoKarim 11 months ago
im not worthy...
illinisports217 11 months ago
Fucking youtube ads messing with my head..
When the caption HAKEEM OLAJUWON came up I immediatly tried to find the 'x' button so I can close it. Eh..
OHADI22 11 months ago
those moves also broke Kobe's knees, shorten his career, doo you guys really like to see that? I don't think a 6'6 SG can use those post moves to dominate post area, Kobe should just learn from MJ's post move, thats for his height. Too many spin moves will only injure his knees.
jimmychuang 11 months ago
I will give it to Kobe for seeking to better himself at a later stage in his career like this.
it really shows his drive
jonatbaylor 11 months ago
its great to see that even Kobe at his age & @ this point of his career he is still willing to add new elements to his game! Shows the heart of a true leader and champion!!& even though i am a huge Celtics fan any basketball follower regardless of who they follow should admire this!!!
samalala 11 months ago
my fav was allways the Dream
i like to se him ''teaching''
i like kobe better after that
nikitawah 11 months ago
The dream is the best center of all time. Period. comeing from a spurs fan
betito1288 11 months ago
Ain't no traveling here. Good video
CalgaryTalents 11 months ago
from 0:32 - 0:35 you can tell kobe travels
pacoman101 1 year ago
@pacoman101 u must be blind... how the heck does he travel...
justin0o2 1 year ago
"You might hate him but you can't deny him"
tophersandoval 1 year ago 2
Ill never think that Kobe is on the same level as Jordan. No one is. But Kobe has earned my respect be how hard he works on his game. Working with the dream to develop a post game is just awesome. How many other players would think of doing that especially one that is arguably the best in the game.
Damonmt 1 year ago
@Damonmt no one cares what u think stop posting a cheesy comment and expect people to comment on it
raymondzmc 1 year ago
@raymondzmc Apparently you care and you commented on it. What a moron. You disproved your point in the same sentence you tried to make it in.
Damonmt 1 year ago
And now the student passes his teacher.
cvision17 1 year ago
he is so stoned
peter9style 1 year ago
im not worthy to watch this
illinisports217 1 year ago
you WON'T look up chris smoove on youtube you WON'T!
FableGhostie 1 year ago
Get off Kobe's nuts. He is on the pace for the most missed shots in NBA history. He is not the most consistent player. Quit kidding yourselves. The most efficient players can truly be only centers like Hakeem and Kareem and even Shaq. Learn your basketball please.
jpcownsyou 1 year ago
@jpcownsyou He's also moving up the NBA all-time scoring list, while taking less shots to get there than most of the guys he is passing.
Kobe is 10th all-time in FG attempts, and 8th in total points scored. He's about to pass Elvin Hayes, having taken 3000+ LESS shots to get there.
I agree that True Centers will have an overall more efficient shooting game, due to the type of shots they take. But let's not pretend Kobe hasn't been efficient getting here.
ctye85 1 year ago
@ctye85
"He's also moving up the NBA all-time scoring list, while taking less shots to get there than most"
How ignorant & uninformed are U kid?
Kobe's taken WELL OVER 20,000 career shots & hasn't even made 10,000 of 'em yet, so WTF are U talkin' about?!! He aint efficient..he's a volume shooter!
He just became the All Time leader for the most MISSED playoff shots this year, and has TWICE missed the most shots in a finals series! He's also shot 40% or LOWER in 5 finals now!
blackadam06 8 months ago
@blackadam06 "and has TWICE missed the most shots in a finals series!"
That's something MJ did 6 out of 6 times, btw.
And when Kobe passed both Hayes and Hakeem recently, he had taken less shots to get the same amount of points. Sounds good to me. Some of that has to do with getting to the line more, but you can't fault Kobe for earning free throws.
The internet screaming you basically did made me laugh a bit though.
ctye85 8 months ago
@jpcownsyou What are centers without guards and small forwards spreading the floor for them? When's the last time you saw a team of 5 centers?
Brad633 1 year ago
@Brad633 What kind of team will win a championship without having some sort of a interior presence? I also never said anything about guards and small forwards not being needed in the game.
jpcownsyou 11 months ago
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blackadam06 8 months ago
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@jpcownsyou
"The most efficient players can truly be only centers like Hakeem and Kareem"
Oh yeah?
Tell that to MJ LOL!!
He's ranked #1 All Time in Player Efficiency Rating (as a guard), and has 4 of the Top 7 seasons of All Time in that area.
Typically the Bigs consistently have the BEST PER seasons, but again, MJ's #1 All Time.
blackadam06 8 months ago
@kobe2tmac
Not that I don't rate Kobe because I do, 81pts is obviously an amazing stat but I feel it more important to look at a career there are a lot of other factors opposed to a players ability that effects a player scoring 81pts in one particular game. That said I know you weren't belittling Jordan and Kobes game speaks for itself, without that record he is still one of the all-time greats.
mpaddy1 1 year ago
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@megatroll
U obviously know a lot of stats regarding the nba, either that of you just were trying to prove an unprovable point by scouring the internet. Im a Jordan fan and would fight his corner, but there is something lacking upstairs if to come out with statements like 'Kobe IS definitely one of the worst shooters the NBA has ever seen; and 'some sissy circle jerk without defense!' Do yourself a favour browse the web look at the general consensus as to whether Kobe is a terrible shooter.
mpaddy1 1 year ago
@megatroll
U obviously know a lot of stats regarding the nba, either that of you just were trying to prove an unprovable point by scouring the internet. Im a Jordan fan and would fight his corner, but there is something lacking upstairs if to come out with statements like 'Kobe IS definitely one of the worst shooters the NBA has ever seen; and 'some sissy circle jerk without defense!' Do yourself a favour browse the web look at the general consensus as to whether Kobe is a terrible shooter.
mpaddy1 1 year ago
@megatroll
The brains behind the game obviously rate Kobe not too poorly. 'He's an inconsistent ballhogging diva, with the basketball I.Q. of an 8 year old. + He was saved by team mates in every single one of his finals' as for this, ok the guy goes for glory and that is why he managed 81pts. If no-one went for glory the games would remain scoreless, prefer that? But Im guessing you are over 8yrs old? Does that mean your basketball IQ is superior to his or does that make you a toddler?
mpaddy1 1 year ago
@mpaddy1
While I respect your opinion, I will stay with my point, because IT IS TRUE. Kobe is one of the most inconsistent players, especially in FG%, the NBA has ever seen. I'm tired of kids rating a player's value because of ONE SINGLE GAME of 81 points. That's childish.
And no, I don't care for the "general consensus", because it is (and has ALWAYS been) biased. I'm against hive mind and prefer objective thinking. I'm not hating on Kobe. Entertaining player, but nowhere NEAR in class.
megatroll 1 year ago
@mpaddy1
Also you can't deny the fact that today's league is unbearable to watch. I personally know a lot of die hard NBA fans. Real freaks who love the game with all their heart for centuries. But even THEY can't look at this pathetic situation anymore because it hurts to see what has become of this sport. Defense is practically non-existant past 2002 rule changes. Kids think the legality of "zone defense" is something new, but the rules were made to SUPPORT scorers! Not the other way around.
megatroll 1 year ago
Duh... why is every video polluted with MJ/Kobe shit.
Kids need to realize there is NOTHING to compare!
Kobe already plays longer in the NBA than MJ ever did and the gap between them is so vastly huge, Kobe would need another 2 lifetimes to achieve what MJ did. He is better in literally every category. +Kobe is one of the worst shooters ever. (And yes, I have plenty of stats to back this up) He is just an overhyped ballhog that obsessively tries to mimic Jordan and fails.
megatroll 1 year ago
@megatroll r u autistic? that was the dumbest shit i've ever read...its like saying Lebron sucks at basketball...ur a fucking a dumbass u know that u don't have to like the guy or even think hes better than jordan, but respect his game, Kobe is easily one of the best 2 shooting guards to ever play the game whether u think he's better than Jordan or not, that is debatable now shutup n go learn basketball
kobe2tmac 1 year ago
@kobe2tmac
Haha, you must be a delusional fanboy.
Trust me, Kobe IS definitely one of the worst shooters the NBA has ever seen and I will prove it to you when I come home from college. (I'm short before leaving the house) By the way his overall stats increased by 24% AFTER the rule changes! And saying he's anywhere NEAR Jordan is an insult. He's an inconsistent ballhogging diva, with the basketball I.Q. of an 8 year old. + He was saved by team mates in every single one of his finals LMAO...
megatroll 1 year ago
@kobe2tmac
Okay, I'm back.
.
NBA record 30 misses in a game
NBA record 100 misses in a series
NBA record lowest shooting % as a finals MVP
NBA record most game winning misses
NBA record the only finals MVP to not shoot above 50% in a finals game
Kobe never hit 51 points in the playoffs in 198 attempts, MJ had less attempts and hit 51 points 10 times
There are only 13 games in history where someone has made 50 points with less than 50% shooting. Kobe is responsible for 6 of them!!!
megatroll 1 year ago
@kobe2tmac
This is not even all.
I have PLENTY more evidence for your enjoyment.
And you DARE to compare this guy to the greatest of all time??? Seriously, NOBODY makes these silly comparisons except YOU delusional 12 year olds who have never even witnessed basketball pre-2000, when the sport was what it's supposed to be! Not some sissy circle jerk without defense! I hope you've learned your lesson for today and stop comparing your "heroes" with true legends of the sport.
Class dismissed.
megatroll 1 year ago
@megatroll
I don't argue with handicaps sorry u can sit naming all his bad stats all day he still has more game winners than ur boy scored 81 points to ur boys 69 and has 5 NBA championships...ya stfu
kobe2tmac 1 year ago
@kobe2tmac
I think at this point it is more than obvious, you reached the point of realizing your hero is merely a dramatized media bitch and you see no other way out than to throw shit at me. Just as I expected of childish Kobe dickriding kid.
Enjoy your sissy NBA.
megatroll 1 year ago
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@kobe2tmac
"he (kobe) still has more game winners than ur boy (MJ)"
MJ vs kobe in the clutch
MJ: 33-58 (56%)...22 came via his jump-shot
KB: 36-115 (31%)...officially as of this year
He's taken 57 MORE game winners than MJ, yet has only been able to makde 3 more than him?
"81 points to ur boys 69"
Toronto = 2nd WORST defensive team in the league that year.
Cleveland = 1 of the top teams & a perennial playoff team
U kobe fans seriously lack perspective on the game...SMH
blackadam06 8 months ago
@megatroll u can shit out wtv stats u want, but kobe scored 81 pts at above 60% shooting.. whats jordan's highest in a game again?.. check ur stat book for it.. n once ur done, shove it up ur ass!
CMpunkist 1 year ago
@CMpunkist
You only ridicule yourself further and further.
I gave you documented proof and YOU go and rate a player's overall value by ONE SINGLE GAME??? In case you didn't know, Wilt Chamberlain made 100 points and I bet his opponents weren't as bored to death as Kobe's for that matter. It's no use talking to you kid. You fail to take off your love glasses and get wind up in delusional bullshit.
megatroll 1 year ago
Rondo learned well hehe
patrickphan2 1 year ago 2
This is what makes great players great: Recognizing the weaknesses of their game and improving on those weaknesses.
duchaneaux 1 year ago
is that zack galifanakis helping them out?
Mokaythatsrespectabl 1 year ago
Maybe he should've asked MJ for help since Hakeen credits MJ for helping him out w/ his moves. Hakeem has stated that he studied tape of Jordan and tried to copy his footwork.
SFO14 1 year ago
not travel, his left foot is pivot foot all the time.
j44huu 1 year ago
kobe might be in a great team now, but jordan had scottie pippen and some great role players in rodman, longley and armstrong and them. no player EVER has won a championship by himself
cobrasplayer 1 year ago 96
@cobrasplayer Just keep it 100% Real!!
LilKob 1 year ago
@cobrasplayer bill russell kinda did
Bonkoodle 1 year ago
@cobrasplayer true but wat about dwyane wade 2006?
kicharn23 1 year ago
@kicharn23 Damnit man!? he had shaq, jason williams, Alonzo Mourning, Udonis Haslem and Jason Kapono!
9mrjacob 1 year ago
@9mrjacob yer i no he did ther good players not great and shaq past his prime
and D-wade took over put his on his back in the nba finals starting from game 3
kicharn23 1 year ago
@9mrjacob and Gary Payton
alvinsim89 1 year ago
@cobrasplayer u r talking nonsense... Longley was one of the worst centers in the NBA and Armstrong was a basic PG, Kobe has Fisher, Gasol and another good center in Bynum all better than Jordan's supporting cast holding the same positions.
rondam10 1 year ago
@rondam10 Are you okay dude. Jordan>Lebron>Kobe. Lebron is the only player to ever actually carry a team. Kobe scored 80, by ball hogging. Jordan is just the greatest by every single measure. Longley was a decent center, Armstrong could be a basic PG with the likes of Rodman, Jordan, or Pippen. Watch em...
DubulWalz 1 year ago
@rondam10 yeah man, fisher mr pg with less than 9ppg, less than 4 apg n less than 2 rpg.. (pls note the sarcasm)
CMpunkist 1 year ago
@rondam10 how is armstrong a basic PG and fisher not? rodman and pippen had jordans back same as pau and LO got kobes now. and u cant just dismiss kobe cos hes got slightly better teammates than jordan, true jordan is the greatest ever and probz wont be matched, but kobe still got his claim to relevance. its just sad the man can win 5 championships and counting and all anyone can think of is he didnt get as many mvps as jordan and shit
cobrasplayer 1 year ago
@cobrasplayer
Longley and armstrong... LOL they were hardly basketball players
crawdaddycon1990 1 year ago
@cobrasplayer no shit, his role players were average they werent shit till they started playing wit mike then wen he left they werent shit
jmaal2345 1 year ago
@cobrasplayer wrong hakeem olajuwon did :)
Fujico6 11 months ago
@Fujico6 hakeem had kenny smith
demonkiller619 11 months ago
@demonkiller619 kenny smith who averaged 6 points a game? is that a joke? dumb comment
Fujico6 11 months ago
@Fujico6 kenny smith who scored 7 3 pointers in an NBA FINALS GAME. STFU.
guitarsANDcars39 11 months ago
@guitarsANDcars39 he averaged 10 points in the finals shooting 43% you dumbass are you saying he was another all star on his team? he was an average player you moron... watch espn they make fun of him for riding hakkeem for a title... idiot.... learn basketball
Fujico6 11 months ago
@Fujico6 no im saying hes an all star U FUCKING DUMBASS. Hakeem needed Kenny Smith to make his 3 pointers to win championships. hakeem did a lot of work for his team which made him great but he didn't win the games alone. He had teammates like Kenny Smith, RObert Horry, and Sam Cassell to help him. He had a team. STFU BITCH
guitarsANDcars39 11 months ago
@guitarsANDcars39 every player h as 4 other players on your team you dumbass but your comment was dumb because hakeem carried his whole team by himself if you even watched... he had the ball every play and kenny smith played like shit in the finals i just told you he shot 43% and averaged 9 points thats not helping ... he was the only all star on that team and he had all average players... so shut up you moron about teams dont win it with 1 player cause hakeem did
Fujico6 11 months ago
@Fujico6 OMG U DO NOT KNOW ROCKETS BASKETBALL. PLEASE JUST THE SHUT THE FUCK UP. ITS A FUCKING TEAM GAME U DUMB PIECE OF SHIT. Hakeem did not win by himself u cunt. Yeah, kenny smith did not play great all games of the finals but he did score right? Clyde Drexler scored some points, Robert Horry scored some points, Sam Cassell scored some points, Mario Elie scored some points. OH DONT TELL ME U DONT KNOW MARIO ELIE's last second shot against phoenix. STFU U STUPID BITCH
guitarsANDcars39 11 months ago
@guitarsANDcars39 you cut your wrist over my comment? the rockets sucked and hakeem brought them a championship shut up you tool. you said there was no team that ever won a title with 1 all star and I just told you the rockets did.. yeah hakeem best field goal percentage most points most blocks most steals most free throws and 2nd most assist and the best + - ratio all playoffs yeah he pretty much carried his team on his back... shut up you fag
Fujico6 11 months ago
@cobrasplayer what about Bill Russell
demonkiller619 11 months ago
@cobrasplayer olajuwon.
toolong46 11 months ago
@cobrasplayer Thank you. Finally someone who knows what he's talking about. I hate it when idiots like Tim Duncan fans think the Spurs won championships because of him. While he had great role cast players around him and a great coach.
Deadshot089 11 months ago
@Deadshot089 Tim Duncan is the greatest PF of all time and while he didn't win the championships by himself, he was a HUGE part in winning them just as Jordan was a huge part in winning his, Kobe with his, Russell with his.
NonchA 10 months ago
@cobrasplayer Luc Longley? B.J. Armstrong? They we're good because they knew how to handle their limited roles. Great players take the pressure off role players and allow them to excel in given situations. But I would never equate them to being great because all those players you mentioned we're interchangeable. The Bulls brought in other guys like Buechler and LaRue and still won. Not because "greatness" of the role players. It was mainly on the backs of Jordan and Pippen.
UtubeHyperboleGuy 10 months ago