This must be the most difficult instrument ever as far as i'm concerned... When i play mine i sound exactly as the gentleman from the video and only get better after some continuous three days of practice :D to make things worse one cannot play longer than 15-20 mins and reach the higher notes as in the beginning. The only easy part is that it doesn't require much air...
@hallobaaaby It is indeed an unforgiving instrument and what you write is very true!! Luckily, as with all musical instruments, frequent practice makes one achieve long awaited progress, especially when combined with better instruments and top notch teachers. I recommend attending masterclasses and taking private lessons with cornettists, you make leaps in progress in no time...
@pcerasi Thanks for wonderful reply! Here in Toulouse we have the world's best cornetto player Jean-Pierre Canihac see little film about where to find him if you come to Toulouse: watch?v=QpBsgM_bDic
Even top players like him rely on trombones and other instruments and cannot make a solo performance...only phrases a few doesn of seconds long at best. Because of these limitations i'd rather put time in oboe & soprano sax(which sounds very much like cornetto most of the times) Sopr.Sax=ease :P
@crazyclarinetplayer Thank you! Actually, progress is as with any instrument, it takes time to get a decent sound and a lot of tedious practising to have enough technique to pump in some music as well...
Very well done! I am thinking of trying the Cornetto,and your playing is encouraging to me! Thanks! BTW, I was wondering,is the Embouchure very hard to learn?
@monkeyeagle Thank you! Do you play trumpet or flute? Coming like myself from the brass world is easier to adatpt to the embouchure requirements of cornetto, but we struggle with spaghetti fingers! The difficult thing is that the diameter is very small and one tends to be too tight (as you can here in the video); one has to learn to relax the centre and keep the corners tight without making too much movement, a bit like piccolo trumpet playing. But progress is steady if you practice regularly!
@pcerasi Thanks for your reply! I am a beginner at flute....and the embouchure is not difficult at all on that to me! I wish you all the best in your future with the Cornetto! If I may ask...where did you get yours? Cheers!!!!
@monkeyeagle Thanks. I got this straight cornett from John McCann in Salt Lake City. This summer I visited him there and bought an upgrade: his latest curved cornetto, which plays beautifully (even more so in the hands of an expert like William Dongois, who got to try it)! Well worth the expense...
@Caynda Thank you for taking the time to post. To each his meaning, but il elepants fart in mean-tone tuning or whether you are a closet cornetto player, I would be interested to hear! One never stops learning. But as of latest, there seems to be no virtuoso or non-virtuoso uploads from your channel... Amazing how the nicest comments always come from people who dare post their craft or who really are the finest of the finest players, makes you wonder! But such is the net and its anonimity.
I searched for it yesterday on google books, and was removed.
well, it shows two instruments in the same page: a curved cornetto (with octogonal section) and a straigh cornetto, or mute cornetto, like the one that you play. Search in google books: the amateur wind instrument maker by Trevor Robinson. Perhaps it's visible again, i don't know...
If one wants to build a cornetto, this picture is enough. Congratulations for your video, and your channel. For comments, i invite you to visit my channel. Thanks!!
Oh! are you interested by this, too??(i tried to answer to darkoromanov, but i think i done it wrong...)I have one technical drawing with measures, fingerholes positión, diameters of the mouthpieces, and a little more. It's a PNG capture from google boooks.
No, I did not build the cornetto but bought it from a skilled craftsman, John McCann. I would encourage you to get in touch with him or other builders such as Henri Gohin, Christoph Schuler, Serge Delmas, Roland Wilson, ...
Hi, what do you mean by "a plane"? What brand of instruments are these? Can you describe them a little more (maybe you have pics)? How much would you ask for them?
@JERJES58 I am trying to make one. I made one from PVC pipe recently. I would love to see those plans of these two you mentioned. The curved, and straight. Could you send them to my mail here? Thanks! john_f_crane589668767@hotmail.com
@JERJES58 I would love to see those plans. I would like to try to make one. I made one out of PVC recently. Could you send them to my mail? Thanks. john_f_crane589668767@hotmail.com
@JERJES58 I would love to see those plans. I'd like to build one. I built one from PVC pipe recently. Could you sent the plans to my mail? Thanks. john_f_crane589668767@hotmail.com
@Lifecomesfromwithin A straight cornett would be easier to build if you have the right tools to turn the wood on, like some kind of lathe. The bore would be pretty much conical, to my understanding. Now the plans and measurements are based on X-ray pics, where apparently the resolution is not very good (no CT scan, just one pic of the whole instrument, with edge effects and distortion).
Period descriptions are apparently very approximate and following them will yield an unplayable instrument, to some extent. The most playable option is to choose an overall length corresponding to the base pitch and cut out equally spaced holes. The holes will then have to be underreamed by experimenting by playing the instrument. The difficulty is that you have to experiment with conicity of the bore, hole final size and mouthpiece volume to get everything right.
This is probably why only very few cornett makers produce decent instruments; all have their trade secrets and the mouthpiece is extremely important. a perfect instrument will have flaws if you use the wrong mouthpiece with it. I had a lot of problems on my cornettino (a Wilson) since it did not come with a custom mouthpiece; finally, when I visited John McCann, he modified one of his mouthpieces to exactly fit the cornettino and now it is a joy to play!
@pcerasi That still would be interesting, thank you. I'm sorry, I only meant to ask once, and my replies didn't seem to be going up! I'm embarassed! I saw an instrument by Monk for around 300 British pounds on a website recently, at earlymusicshop com in the uk, but I can't spend that kind of money yet. I'm practicing with my pvc for now. :)
Hi, yes I am (still) a trumpet player. Obviously, the sound production is essentially the same, so you should be on familiar ground. The tricky thing is that the mouthpiece is so much smaller and supporting the instrument while playing tends to shove it into your face (at least I struggle against that), and as on any trumpet, synchronising fingering and tonguing is the most difficult issue. Enjoy!
Totally agree. Support you need is exhausting on the cornett. I find intonation is much more an issue (which is obvious in this video). Fingering is similar to playing the recorder. In so far the the cornett combines the downsides of the trumpet and the recorder :)
This must be the most difficult instrument ever as far as i'm concerned... When i play mine i sound exactly as the gentleman from the video and only get better after some continuous three days of practice :D to make things worse one cannot play longer than 15-20 mins and reach the higher notes as in the beginning. The only easy part is that it doesn't require much air...
hallobaaaby 5 months ago
@hallobaaaby It is indeed an unforgiving instrument and what you write is very true!! Luckily, as with all musical instruments, frequent practice makes one achieve long awaited progress, especially when combined with better instruments and top notch teachers. I recommend attending masterclasses and taking private lessons with cornettists, you make leaps in progress in no time...
pcerasi 5 months ago
@pcerasi Thanks for wonderful reply! Here in Toulouse we have the world's best cornetto player Jean-Pierre Canihac see little film about where to find him if you come to Toulouse: watch?v=QpBsgM_bDic
Even top players like him rely on trombones and other instruments and cannot make a solo performance...only phrases a few doesn of seconds long at best. Because of these limitations i'd rather put time in oboe & soprano sax(which sounds very much like cornetto most of the times) Sopr.Sax=ease :P
hallobaaaby 5 months ago
beautiful, I've heard how hard cornetts are to play, I prefer reed instruments personally. But, wow!!!!!!!!! Great job
crazyclarinetplayer 10 months ago
@crazyclarinetplayer Thank you! Actually, progress is as with any instrument, it takes time to get a decent sound and a lot of tedious practising to have enough technique to pump in some music as well...
pcerasi 10 months ago
Very well done! I am thinking of trying the Cornetto,and your playing is encouraging to me! Thanks! BTW, I was wondering,is the Embouchure very hard to learn?
monkeyeagle 1 year ago
@monkeyeagle Thank you! Do you play trumpet or flute? Coming like myself from the brass world is easier to adatpt to the embouchure requirements of cornetto, but we struggle with spaghetti fingers! The difficult thing is that the diameter is very small and one tends to be too tight (as you can here in the video); one has to learn to relax the centre and keep the corners tight without making too much movement, a bit like piccolo trumpet playing. But progress is steady if you practice regularly!
pcerasi 1 year ago
@pcerasi Thanks for your reply! I am a beginner at flute....and the embouchure is not difficult at all on that to me! I wish you all the best in your future with the Cornetto! If I may ask...where did you get yours? Cheers!!!!
monkeyeagle 1 year ago
@monkeyeagle Thanks. I got this straight cornett from John McCann in Salt Lake City. This summer I visited him there and bought an upgrade: his latest curved cornetto, which plays beautifully (even more so in the hands of an expert like William Dongois, who got to try it)! Well worth the expense...
pcerasi 1 year ago
I´m sorry, but he plays like an elephant making farts. I played this instrument better, when I was 18!
Caynda 1 year ago
@Caynda Thank you for taking the time to post. To each his meaning, but il elepants fart in mean-tone tuning or whether you are a closet cornetto player, I would be interested to hear! One never stops learning. But as of latest, there seems to be no virtuoso or non-virtuoso uploads from your channel... Amazing how the nicest comments always come from people who dare post their craft or who really are the finest of the finest players, makes you wonder! But such is the net and its anonimity.
pcerasi 1 year ago
Live on Stage on my Laptop. Very nice your Cornettoplaying. Congratulation! I think i will learn it to. The Sound is incredibly lovely!
robertmai64 1 year ago
I searched for it yesterday on google books, and was removed.
well, it shows two instruments in the same page: a curved cornetto (with octogonal section) and a straigh cornetto, or mute cornetto, like the one that you play. Search in google books: the amateur wind instrument maker by Trevor Robinson. Perhaps it's visible again, i don't know...
JERJES58 2 years ago
OK, thanks!
pcerasi 2 years ago
If one wants to build a cornetto, this picture is enough. Congratulations for your video, and your channel. For comments, i invite you to visit my channel. Thanks!!
JERJES58 2 years ago
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JERJES58 2 years ago
Oh! are you interested by this, too??(i tried to answer to darkoromanov, but i think i done it wrong...)I have one technical drawing with measures, fingerholes positión, diameters of the mouthpieces, and a little more. It's a PNG capture from google boooks.
JERJES58 2 years ago
Hi, did you buy the cornetto or made it by yourself? I'm interested in building one and some tips would be really appreciated.
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darkoromanov 2 years ago
Hello,
No, I did not build the cornetto but bought it from a skilled craftsman, John McCann. I would encourage you to get in touch with him or other builders such as Henri Gohin, Christoph Schuler, Serge Delmas, Roland Wilson, ...
pcerasi 2 years ago
many many thanks!
darkoromanov 2 years ago
I have a plane of two cornettos ,straigh and curved. If you want them, i'll send you that...(sorry for the english)
JERJES58 2 years ago
Hi, what do you mean by "a plane"? What brand of instruments are these? Can you describe them a little more (maybe you have pics)? How much would you ask for them?
Thanks!
pcerasi 2 years ago
I'm guessing he means "plan", not "plane".
Tough instrument to play -- we get spoiled in modern times for easy access to such nice instruments! Thanks for posting this!
snickpickle 2 years ago
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@JERJES58 I am trying to make one. I made one from PVC pipe recently. I would love to see those plans of these two you mentioned. The curved, and straight. Could you send them to my mail here? Thanks! john_f_crane589668767@hotmail.com
Lifecomesfromwithin 1 year ago
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Lifecomesfromwithin 1 year ago
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@JERJES58 I would love to see those plans. I'd like to build one. I built one from PVC pipe recently. Could you sent the plans to my mail? Thanks. john_f_crane589668767@hotmail.com
Lifecomesfromwithin 1 year ago
@JERJES58 I would like to see the plans. I'd like to build my own. I made a straight one from PVC pipe recently.
Lifecomesfromwithin 1 year ago
@Lifecomesfromwithin A straight cornett would be easier to build if you have the right tools to turn the wood on, like some kind of lathe. The bore would be pretty much conical, to my understanding. Now the plans and measurements are based on X-ray pics, where apparently the resolution is not very good (no CT scan, just one pic of the whole instrument, with edge effects and distortion).
pcerasi 1 year ago
Period descriptions are apparently very approximate and following them will yield an unplayable instrument, to some extent. The most playable option is to choose an overall length corresponding to the base pitch and cut out equally spaced holes. The holes will then have to be underreamed by experimenting by playing the instrument. The difficulty is that you have to experiment with conicity of the bore, hole final size and mouthpiece volume to get everything right.
pcerasi 1 year ago
This is probably why only very few cornett makers produce decent instruments; all have their trade secrets and the mouthpiece is extremely important. a perfect instrument will have flaws if you use the wrong mouthpiece with it. I had a lot of problems on my cornettino (a Wilson) since it did not come with a custom mouthpiece; finally, when I visited John McCann, he modified one of his mouthpieces to exactly fit the cornettino and now it is a joy to play!
pcerasi 1 year ago
@pcerasi That still would be interesting, thank you. I'm sorry, I only meant to ask once, and my replies didn't seem to be going up! I'm embarassed! I saw an instrument by Monk for around 300 British pounds on a website recently, at earlymusicshop com in the uk, but I can't spend that kind of money yet. I'm practicing with my pvc for now. :)
Lifecomesfromwithin 1 year ago
Have you played the Trumpet prior to the cornetto? I'm considering to start learning it soon and I was wondering how it was in comparison.
DeLorean4 3 years ago
Hi, yes I am (still) a trumpet player. Obviously, the sound production is essentially the same, so you should be on familiar ground. The tricky thing is that the mouthpiece is so much smaller and supporting the instrument while playing tends to shove it into your face (at least I struggle against that), and as on any trumpet, synchronising fingering and tonguing is the most difficult issue. Enjoy!
pcerasi 3 years ago
Totally agree. Support you need is exhausting on the cornett. I find intonation is much more an issue (which is obvious in this video). Fingering is similar to playing the recorder. In so far the the cornett combines the downsides of the trumpet and the recorder :)
Makudakinger 3 years ago
Hello, I am just wondering what brand that cornetto is? Also what did you pay for it?
warh0rn 3 years ago