When I was in the military we where told to leave churches in bridges alone. And takeing away weapons is just crazy. It was an unlawful order and there commanders should be put on trial and shot
It wasn't only white people's guns - it was EVERYONE's! Blacks had it worse: a quote from a Blackwater: "Target practice! It was open season on niggers, man! What a great day!" Call them a looter, shoot and move on.Some had had their guns confiscated. I would hope some bar Ass'n would volunteer to help sue whoever was responsible on these people's behalf - in the names of ALL Americans!
I am posting again, that this video does not represent the truth. The National Guard did not enter homes, or take weapons from anyone. Only the New Orleans PD did these things. The OK NG did not and would not do either. This video is a manipulation of the truth. See my earlier posts.
I am posting again, that this video does not represent the truth. The National Guard did not enter homes, or take weapons from anyone. Only the New Orleans PD did these things. The OK NG did not and would not do either.
NoMAIG, I am sorry you are too stupid to read. I already tried to tell you this video is not representing the truth. The Oklahoma National Guard took no weapons nor entered anyones home. The only places we went into were if there was a body inside inorder to mark it for the remains removal people. THE ONLY ONES TAKING GUNS WAS THE NEW ORLEANS POLICE. THE ONLY ONES TAKING GUS WERE THE NEW ORLEANS POLICE.....I SAY AGAIN THE ONLY ONES TAKING GUNS WERE THE NEW ORLEANS POLICE. Watch the video.
@FredBible1 There's various videos all over the internet(the worst of them taken off YT but still available elsewhere),Sorry Fred,the deed is done, y'all made the threat of lethal force kicking in doors and pointing M249s at home owners trying to protect what little they had left from roaming gangs of armed criminals. Does it really matter who physically picked up the guns after you threatened to kill them in their own homes?
I am CPT Bible in this video. The NG did not take any weapons. Only the NO PD was there confiscating weapons. We also did not enter any homes unless there were suspected bodies within. We tried to talk people into leaving and kept out people that did not have a valid address/property in the area. I repeat the NG did not take anyone's weapons. That was New Orleans PD all on its own.
@FredBible1 I would have told yall and or the police to get the fuck off my property and you aint gettin my guns without a fight. It's shit like this why we don't trust the police or the military.
Ive got plenty of 7.62 ammo an AK and plenty of 3" 12ga Magnum Slugs 2-Saiga 12gauges, come get em.
An Oklahoman of all people should be the one to say FUCK NO im not going door to door taking peoples guns, that shit goes against the Constitution.
I am CPT Bible from the video. Watch closely only the NEW ORLEANS PD was taking weapons and entering houses. We walked the streets, making sure that people that were there actually lived there and were not opportunists there living in other peoples houses and stealing. THE NG did not take anyones weapons. It was never ordered by the command or executed on the ground. As far as Montgomery, he was asked what would he do if shot at. He reluctantly responded and you get the response.
If there cumming in without a wairent then you have every right to defend yourself. If they are not fallowing the constitution then they are not government agents they are just guys in costumes coming into your house with guns. They better make sure that body armor is strapped on tight.
The media loves that phrase: "The authorities". Just who ARE the AUTHORITIES in America? It is We the People, NOT a militarized police force! A totalitarian police state runs diametrically opposed to American principles, and the American Constitution. All cops, and any other law enforcement personnel, should join the Oathkeepers.
WHAT THE FUCK MAN ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? sHOOT AN AMERICAN? WHAT ABOUT THAT OATH YOU TOOK FOR THE CONSTITUTION AND ITS PROTECTION? I HOPE YOU REALLY ARE NOT THE MAJORITY OF OUR MILITARY
That's absolutely ridiculous. No warrant. No ENTRY. I dont care who you are. Just because you're some moron cop wearing military like garb doesn't mean you can waltz into my house. Unwanted entry will constitute immediate deadly force, and I suggest the rest of America thinks about these things ahead of time so they're not surprised when it happens to them. Think ahead, be prepared, dont let ANYONE trample your rights.
I don't know what I would do if armed people came to my house and demanded all of my firearms, that's what makes this type of situation scary to even think about. I could do nothing and hand them over or I could snap and think to myself that I lost everything anyways and duke it out with them. I hope I never have to make a decision like that.
Again, what are the police doing raiding the "wealthiest neighborhoods"..?! It's because they know they will encounter the least resistance there.. Unlike the poor neighborhoods where every criminal owns a gun and is armed with it, and will use it to force people into doing what they want them to do, like give up their food, water, belongings..etc..! Fucken pigs!!
After watching the documentary that the NRA did on this story, followed by this one, I have learned from their mistakes. Since the National Guard, local Police, & Sheriff were all acting against The Constitutions of both the Federal & State, and Breaking the Law, if I'm in a situation like that, I will raise my rifle and pick off at least one of them before they get me! The news of that will spread, and WE will show the world why we have a 2nd Amendment! Time to get ready!
BS. That's what all hardasses will say, but if you have half a dozen officers/soldiers with weapons drawn on you - you will hand them over just like everyone else did and will do.
If you think it will be any different then you are lying to yourself, mentally disturbed, or replying without thinking through all possible outcomes.
The media will just portray you as an armed maniac and distort your message. All the sheeple of the country that have no spine will sit and nod in agreement and believe the media.
@stevekoeppelbiz Nah man, if you do that they'll just make us good God fearing gun loving people look like the bad guys. Media would love for someone to shoot an officer - nobody thinks they're the bad guys. It's all messed up.
@BBB517 - If they're taking guns, beating people and panicking like that idiot who beat up that older gal for an unloaded weapon, THEY ARE THE BAD GUYS!
Shoot the little camo f**kers trying to take your guns. That's how you keep your guns otherwise you pussy-out and hand them over willingly. I don't think the founders would have been very proud of you.
Look at the double speak!! Force with ought using Force!! No... they aren't forcing you at gun point in your face, breaking your arms as they force them behind your back and forcefully forcing you into a F3MA camp Way to commit trea$on you Naz! SS traitor$!!
if you slaves are so amazing why did you get your asses kicked so bad in the revolutionary war? all the british do is talk about how great they are but they dont actually do anything.
The first thing I was taught as a solder following orders is about the UCMJ uniform code of military justice- an illegal order given by a gov officer is still illegal!!! Taking american arms from civilians is illegal!!!(and can be dis-obeyed as such!) SOMEONE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!!!
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for all the americans out there, dont lose hope in our country yet. theres more of us ready to fight for our rights than you may think. get armed, get trained, get ready.
listen, you are barely even allowed to own firearms in britian. cameras on every corner, helicopters overheard. the british are the real sheep and slaves of the world. we wont talk about your orwellian police state so dont open your mouths about ours.
Try spell check. It's Britain, overhead and British.
WTF would I need a gun? I can walk around any city in Britain at midnight and not feel threatened. If you're not doing anything wrong why would you have to fear CCTV cameras?
Come and see for yourself why this IS the BEST country in the World!
"If you're not doing anything wrong why would you have to fear CCTV cameras?"
Does the concept of privacy mean anything to you?
"Come and see for yourself why this IS the BEST country in the World!"
No, thanks. I can read about Orwellian society in 1984. And, Japan is better than the U.K. because the people there are more polite and I don't have to worry about being accosted by a hooligan wannabe while, in the U.S., I can shoot a mugger stupid enough to attack me.
As for the idea that you mustn't worry about cameras if you aren't doing wrong ...
I hope you're aware that you're advocating an idea commensurate with illegal search and seizure.
Is it just for an authority to go into your home and search it without your consent and without probable cause, much less a warrant, with the sole defense being that you mustn't worry if you have nothing to hide?
What about things in your life that isn't incriminating yet isn't anyone else's business?
CCTV cameras are in public places in Britain.They are there to enhance public safety. At no time have I ever mentioned invasion of private property without a warrant.See my next posting...
The Royal Academy of England voiced a concern about the proliferation of CCTV, such as the possibility of abuse and penetration into the system by hackers. Abuse because an authority's weakness are its people and hackers because no system can ever be completely secure.
And, you all are about to have talking CCTV, if you haven't already got it now.
Not only is Big brother really watching you, he has a voice.
The new system can mark anybody in a crowd by pixillating them. They can put markers on the electronic face of the subject. They can watch this subject anywhere around town via other cameras. Its great...cont
There's no doubt that the technology is powerful and helpful.
But, there is a double-edged sword with everything. In the case of CCTV, there is the possibility of abuse or for the security of the system to be compromised from outside and used for devious means.
My question is how can an authority be trusted with it. It's almost as if everyone is suspect, not just criminals.
The only thing I can conclude is that we agree to disagree, and that's perfectly fine.
And, usually, thanking somebody is done when there is genuine gratitude. I somehow find your farewell to be sarcastic, especially after suggesting that I represent "why America is so crap" and that I should "get a life."
Well, here's a parting shot for you.
"everything was all right, the struggle was finished. had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."
Furthermore, attacking another person's position by not sticking with the subject at hand and, instead, deviating from the topic by attacking the person's grammar and spelling shows a weakness in your contention, that you have no class, or both.
You disappoint me, but I'm understanding of the fact that you aren't indicative of your countrymen.
In addition, I've made many points arguing against your contentions and you aren't able to counter even ONE point. Instead, you decided it would be easier to insult me by falling back on an overused cliché (get a life).
Thank you for proving MY point about YOU (no class, ignorant, arrogant, unwilling to think).
My friend. I dont think that you are in the USA right now, or if you ever have been. The minimum time difference is GMT-5Hrs to get me to Eastern daylight saving. Its now 09-45 GMThere soi ts 04-45hrs there.
You TRY to appear to be an illuminati.
My case to you is simple.
Why would anybody be bothered about CCTV cameras unless they have something to hide?
People in authority (a.k.a. power) are still people. That means the possibility of abuse by authority or the use of such a system for unintended purposes through bribery and etc. is possible. You can't possibly think that there aren't corrupt members of the constabulary, do you?
Plus, if the system is managed on a computer network, count on somebody finding ways to exploit weaknesses in that system. Some do it because of a sinister motive while others do it just to see if it can be done.
Continued..We have laws in this country provided by the Houses of Parliament. By and large they provide security for the individual. Under no circumstances would the Police or others be trampling on individual freedoms without a genuine reason.(Anti terrorist measures would IMHO be a reasonable interruption of Habeus Corpus).
How can you be sure that you can trust your authorities?
As for many of the anti-terrorist measures in the United States, I tend to disagree with them myself under the same basis. The Patriot Act is a clear affront to the 1st Amendment.
Ive just watched you on your homepage. You are American. My apologies. But what time do you go to bed?
I lived in Bradenton Fl for 12 years and believe me whatever you guys are indoctrinated with by your government/media/NRA, you are not living in a free or fair or just society.
The media are a mixed up lot, so I take what they say with a grain of salt and try to find information on my own. I distrust government, hence my insistence for the 2nd Amendment. The NRA is about protecting the 2nd because without it, the ability to defend the Bill of Rights is lost (think about that, if the people can't defend their rights by force if need be, then what's to stop government from treading on them?).
I find it fascinating that you'd assume "indoctrination," even though the media is mostly antagonistic against the NRA and the government's relationship to both tends to be cyclical. Very chaotic.
And, what, pray tell, is your definition for "free, or fair, or just."
To me, it's being yourself and having the freedom to do anything you want so long as what you do doesn't violate the freedom of others.
you wrote And, what, pray tell, is your definition for "free, or fair, or just."
Well how about Ruby Ridge, Waco,Hurricane Katrina in N.O. Texans capital punishment agenda, Floridas call for Bush when Gore won and a load of other stuff too much to mention. cont
Ruby Ridge, Waco, and the problem with Hurricane Katrina are all examples of why government is not to be trusted and that the people should keep an eye out on government, not the other way around.
As for capital punishment, there is justification for the death penalty, IMO, if a person has been proven guilty of a crime so heinous that anything less than that is simply unjust for the victim and his/her family.
Incarceration is supposed to rehabilitate an offender so he/she can be a productive member of society. Life imprisonment sort of defeats that purpose. Further, life in jail can be more inhumane if that life is rife with violence and suffering.
As for the election between Bush and Gore, there are lessons in that as well, although everything about the whole situation was rendered complicated by both sides of the party that it's difficult to sort out the rubbish from facts.
But, one lesson that ought to be considered: electronic voting has a specific downfall that paper voting does not, which is the possibility of being hacked to skew election results.
POLICE STATE. WITHOUT ACTUALLY USING FORE? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU CALL ENTERING HOUSES WITH WEAPONS DRAWN? CUFFING PEOPLE AND FORCING THEM OUT?? WTF?? SHITTY REPORTING..IT's propagandas...it wasn't just wealthy neighborhoods
People are drowning and losing all their property and all these people are there to do is kick down our doors with rifles drawn and steal our means of defense.
This video shows whites because thats the only way amaraSheep people would care but this happen to all races especially for blacks
AlvaBlok 2 weeks ago
Fredbible you are a first class idiot do us a favor and jump into on coming traffic
AlvaBlok 2 weeks ago
When I was in the military we where told to leave churches in bridges alone. And takeing away weapons is just crazy. It was an unlawful order and there commanders should be put on trial and shot
fieldcommandereyesin 2 months ago
It wasn't only white people's guns - it was EVERYONE's! Blacks had it worse: a quote from a Blackwater: "Target practice! It was open season on niggers, man! What a great day!" Call them a looter, shoot and move on.Some had had their guns confiscated. I would hope some bar Ass'n would volunteer to help sue whoever was responsible on these people's behalf - in the names of ALL Americans!
Heyokat 4 months ago
It was only white people whose guns were taken. Why? In the future, resist with all your might and honor, all NAZI Gestapo agents.
ipsonutso123 8 months ago
I am posting again, that this video does not represent the truth. The National Guard did not enter homes, or take weapons from anyone. Only the New Orleans PD did these things. The OK NG did not and would not do either. This video is a manipulation of the truth. See my earlier posts.
FredBible1 8 months ago
I am posting again, that this video does not represent the truth. The National Guard did not enter homes, or take weapons from anyone. Only the New Orleans PD did these things. The OK NG did not and would not do either.
FredBible1 8 months ago
NoMAIG, I am sorry you are too stupid to read. I already tried to tell you this video is not representing the truth. The Oklahoma National Guard took no weapons nor entered anyones home. The only places we went into were if there was a body inside inorder to mark it for the remains removal people. THE ONLY ONES TAKING GUNS WAS THE NEW ORLEANS POLICE. THE ONLY ONES TAKING GUS WERE THE NEW ORLEANS POLICE.....I SAY AGAIN THE ONLY ONES TAKING GUNS WERE THE NEW ORLEANS POLICE. Watch the video.
FredBible1 8 months ago
@FredBible1 There's various videos all over the internet(the worst of them taken off YT but still available elsewhere),Sorry Fred,the deed is done, y'all made the threat of lethal force kicking in doors and pointing M249s at home owners trying to protect what little they had left from roaming gangs of armed criminals. Does it really matter who physically picked up the guns after you threatened to kill them in their own homes?
FromanMD 1 month ago
I am CPT Bible in this video. The NG did not take any weapons. Only the NO PD was there confiscating weapons. We also did not enter any homes unless there were suspected bodies within. We tried to talk people into leaving and kept out people that did not have a valid address/property in the area. I repeat the NG did not take anyone's weapons. That was New Orleans PD all on its own.
FredBible1 9 months ago
@FredBible1 I would have told yall and or the police to get the fuck off my property and you aint gettin my guns without a fight. It's shit like this why we don't trust the police or the military.
Ive got plenty of 7.62 ammo an AK and plenty of 3" 12ga Magnum Slugs 2-Saiga 12gauges, come get em.
An Oklahoman of all people should be the one to say FUCK NO im not going door to door taking peoples guns, that shit goes against the Constitution.
No trust, especially after Waco!
NoMAIG 8 months ago
I am CPT Bible from the video. Watch closely only the NEW ORLEANS PD was taking weapons and entering houses. We walked the streets, making sure that people that were there actually lived there and were not opportunists there living in other peoples houses and stealing. THE NG did not take anyones weapons. It was never ordered by the command or executed on the ground. As far as Montgomery, he was asked what would he do if shot at. He reluctantly responded and you get the response.
FredBible1 9 months ago
KILL THEM ALL!
sakoshooter48 1 year ago
fuking nazi soilders taking guns from citizens who want to protect themselves while the criminals run rampant in the streets.
TheCashistrash 1 year ago
this is a wake up call for you folks. your second revolution is brewing.
faniboz1 1 year ago
lets see them try this in Brooklyn.
faniboz1 1 year ago
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hindwood
WOW!! For the first time I understand why Iraq has so many Freedom Fighters
RDLONG30 2 years ago
YOU HOPE it does not happen in your town-- WAKE UP WISE UP if it happens ANYWHERE in the USA IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED
RDLONG30 2 years ago
nra national retard association
gouldaire 2 years ago
@gouldaire Pathetic joke! You are the real retard, kiddo! Go play with your marbles, and don't forget to wash your face before you go to bed.
twombonu 9 months ago
i really, really, hope this never happens in my town,it would break my heart , but i would send as many of them to their selected maker as i could.
bearshaman0 2 years ago 2
Or instead of shooting that American, he could join you and you could get things back in order.
koty123frontiernet 2 years ago
this kind of abuse needs 2 be stopped one way or another
crazycoyotie 2 years ago 2
But nobody is willing to show that we can win.
koty123frontiernet 2 years ago
2 words: Alarm and Muster
AlarmRiderATL 2 years ago
If there cumming in without a wairent then you have every right to defend yourself. If they are not fallowing the constitution then they are not government agents they are just guys in costumes coming into your house with guns. They better make sure that body armor is strapped on tight.
sharpie443 2 years ago 4
A TERRORIST IS NOT A FREEDOM FIGHTER
RDLONG30 2 years ago
ya ok and your point?
sharpie443 2 years ago
WOW!! For the first time I understand why Iraq has so many Freedom Fighters
hindwood 2 years ago 5
The media loves that phrase: "The authorities". Just who ARE the AUTHORITIES in America? It is We the People, NOT a militarized police force! A totalitarian police state runs diametrically opposed to American principles, and the American Constitution. All cops, and any other law enforcement personnel, should join the Oathkeepers.
joe80dman 2 years ago 4
im fed up with these nazi mother f-bomers
scaryvisionary1 2 years ago 4
WHAT THE FUCK MAN ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? sHOOT AN AMERICAN? WHAT ABOUT THAT OATH YOU TOOK FOR THE CONSTITUTION AND ITS PROTECTION? I HOPE YOU REALLY ARE NOT THE MAJORITY OF OUR MILITARY
DENNDOGG77 2 years ago 7
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if u didnt let terriosts in your country u wouldnt have to worry
UKimpact 2 years ago
Great video. I guess the moral is that you must shoot them first. Stop white on white crime!
slimwoodie 2 years ago 2
"Without Force"? Bullshit. Makes me sick.
DirtyFrigginHarry 3 years ago 5
That's absolutely ridiculous. No warrant. No ENTRY. I dont care who you are. Just because you're some moron cop wearing military like garb doesn't mean you can waltz into my house. Unwanted entry will constitute immediate deadly force, and I suggest the rest of America thinks about these things ahead of time so they're not surprised when it happens to them. Think ahead, be prepared, dont let ANYONE trample your rights.
PeteTheBossRoss 3 years ago 4
lol, not by force??
JUKIO01 3 years ago 2
Ha ha, yeah I know. "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force." G. Washington.
BBB517 3 years ago 2
I don't know what I would do if armed people came to my house and demanded all of my firearms, that's what makes this type of situation scary to even think about. I could do nothing and hand them over or I could snap and think to myself that I lost everything anyways and duke it out with them. I hope I never have to make a decision like that.
IDapto77 3 years ago 2
Again, what are the police doing raiding the "wealthiest neighborhoods"..?! It's because they know they will encounter the least resistance there.. Unlike the poor neighborhoods where every criminal owns a gun and is armed with it, and will use it to force people into doing what they want them to do, like give up their food, water, belongings..etc..! Fucken pigs!!
stevekoeppelbiz 3 years ago 3
Police state.
jasonfin1128 3 years ago 4
After watching the documentary that the NRA did on this story, followed by this one, I have learned from their mistakes. Since the National Guard, local Police, & Sheriff were all acting against The Constitutions of both the Federal & State, and Breaking the Law, if I'm in a situation like that, I will raise my rifle and pick off at least one of them before they get me! The news of that will spread, and WE will show the world why we have a 2nd Amendment! Time to get ready!
stevekoeppelbiz 3 years ago 7
BS. That's what all hardasses will say, but if you have half a dozen officers/soldiers with weapons drawn on you - you will hand them over just like everyone else did and will do.
If you think it will be any different then you are lying to yourself, mentally disturbed, or replying without thinking through all possible outcomes.
Z06F4i 3 years ago
No, I will shoot to kill. & you will see that there are people who have a set of balls still living in this country, unlike yourself.
stevekoeppelbiz 3 years ago 4
You're a cop!
stevekoeppelbiz 3 years ago 2
The media will just portray you as an armed maniac and distort your message. All the sheeple of the country that have no spine will sit and nod in agreement and believe the media.
Z06F4i 3 years ago 3
yup.. I'm sure it's already happened - they just didn't mention it.
BBB517 3 years ago
Yeah, don't go vigilante on your own. Get a bunch of guns and a bunch of people who will stand together and do just that. Numbers are where it's at.
BBB517 3 years ago 4
@stevekoeppelbiz Nah man, if you do that they'll just make us good God fearing gun loving people look like the bad guys. Media would love for someone to shoot an officer - nobody thinks they're the bad guys. It's all messed up.
BBB517 11 months ago
@BBB517 - If they're taking guns, beating people and panicking like that idiot who beat up that older gal for an unloaded weapon, THEY ARE THE BAD GUYS!
Heyokat 4 months ago
Organized police action or organized crime. Make your own opinion. I choose the latter.
snowchoux 4 years ago
Problem is what the police were doing was criminal... making it a form of organized crime.
videohaure 3 years ago
Shoot the little camo f**kers trying to take your guns. That's how you keep your guns otherwise you pussy-out and hand them over willingly. I don't think the founders would have been very proud of you.
BloodTar 4 years ago 4
"you never expect to do this in your own country"
Whats that HQ? Break the constitution?
Ok boys lets GO!!
ChronicusMaximus 4 years ago
Don't think about raping a baby...never expected to have to do that... I forgive you nothing!
dianeliebowitz 4 years ago
Look at the double speak!! Force with ought using Force!! No... they aren't forcing you at gun point in your face, breaking your arms as they force them behind your back and forcefully forcing you into a F3MA camp Way to commit trea$on you Naz! SS traitor$!!
1NWOMD 4 years ago
disarmed slaves that love being disarmed slaves, what a joke.
letsmoge 4 years ago
if you slaves are so amazing why did you get your asses kicked so bad in the revolutionary war? all the british do is talk about how great they are but they dont actually do anything.
letsmoge 4 years ago
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Get over it!
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
Inter
2006 murder rates UK 765, Population 60.5 Million
2006 murder rates USA 17,000+ Population 300 Million.
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
Inter I checked out what you wrote yesterday and there meanings
"Konbanwa" to you. = Good Night
(And here's a kancho for you, too.) Means that you want to stick 2 fingers up my bum....WHY?
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
"free, or fair, or just."
Now Inter you have shot Yourself in the foot.
You have confirmed what I said. America is none of the above.
Now I REALLY am going!
Thank you.
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
Inter
If you lived in Europe you would be deemed to be an anarchist as you said:-
To me, it's being yourself and having the freedom to do anything you want so long as what you do doesn't violate the freedom of others.
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
I blame rap..rap takes the blame for everything else
MASSIVE100 4 years ago
The first thing I was taught as a solder following orders is about the UCMJ uniform code of military justice- an illegal order given by a gov officer is still illegal!!! Taking american arms from civilians is illegal!!!(and can be dis-obeyed as such!) SOMEONE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!!!
mfitzy111 4 years ago
renzaura 4 years ago
Stop the Tyranny!
Say NO to the New World Order. It's on the back of the $1 bill already and things are getting much worse.
rEVOLution!
RON PAUL 2008
renzaura 4 years ago
for all the americans out there, dont lose hope in our country yet. theres more of us ready to fight for our rights than you may think. get armed, get trained, get ready.
letsmoge 4 years ago
These guys are trained to consider anyone they're told to go after as an enemy, whether they're an American citizen or not.
Fuck America, I hate my country. Thank you Bush.
787Bisurdaddy 4 years ago
this is pathetic...we're doomed!
yugnats 4 years ago
What a disgrace!!
The land of the free--MY ARSE!
Disgusting behaviour in a civilised society.
Glad to be British!!
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
listen, you are barely even allowed to own firearms in britian. cameras on every corner, helicopters overheard. the british are the real sheep and slaves of the world. we wont talk about your orwellian police state so dont open your mouths about ours.
letsmoge 4 years ago 2
Try spell check. It's Britain, overhead and British.
WTF would I need a gun? I can walk around any city in Britain at midnight and not feel threatened. If you're not doing anything wrong why would you have to fear CCTV cameras?
Come and see for yourself why this IS the BEST country in the World!
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
"I can walk around any city in Britain at midnight and not feel threatened."
Just a matter of time when somebody out there will catch you while you're off guard.
BTW, London and Scotland are more violent places than even the U.S. according to the U.N.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
"If you're not doing anything wrong why would you have to fear CCTV cameras?"
Does the concept of privacy mean anything to you?
"Come and see for yourself why this IS the BEST country in the World!"
No, thanks. I can read about Orwellian society in 1984. And, Japan is better than the U.K. because the people there are more polite and I don't have to worry about being accosted by a hooligan wannabe while, in the U.S., I can shoot a mugger stupid enough to attack me.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
As for the idea that you mustn't worry about cameras if you aren't doing wrong ...
I hope you're aware that you're advocating an idea commensurate with illegal search and seizure.
Is it just for an authority to go into your home and search it without your consent and without probable cause, much less a warrant, with the sole defense being that you mustn't worry if you have nothing to hide?
What about things in your life that isn't incriminating yet isn't anyone else's business?
Intersonus903 4 years ago
Yet again I will respond to you.
CCTV cameras are in public places in Britain.They are there to enhance public safety. At no time have I ever mentioned invasion of private property without a warrant.See my next posting...
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
The Royal Academy of England voiced a concern about the proliferation of CCTV, such as the possibility of abuse and penetration into the system by hackers. Abuse because an authority's weakness are its people and hackers because no system can ever be completely secure.
And, you all are about to have talking CCTV, if you haven't already got it now.
Not only is Big brother really watching you, he has a voice.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
I wasnt aware of UTubes 500 character limit as Ive already mentioned.
I have checked out the Royal academys web site and it is purely an Arts foundation.
There is no mention within their site of anything to do with CCTV cont
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
Google up "CCTV cameras Britain."
And, I was mistaken. It was the Royal Academy of Engineering, not "Royal Academy of England." My mistake.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
cont
We do have talking CCTV. Its a great tool to stop yobs and such in their tracks.
We also have a new CCTV. more >>>
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
The new system can mark anybody in a crowd by pixillating them. They can put markers on the electronic face of the subject. They can watch this subject anywhere around town via other cameras. Its great...cont
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
There's no doubt that the technology is powerful and helpful.
But, there is a double-edged sword with everything. In the case of CCTV, there is the possibility of abuse or for the security of the system to be compromised from outside and used for devious means.
My question is how can an authority be trusted with it. It's almost as if everyone is suspect, not just criminals.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
Reading through your posts I do think that you have a paranoia about your country.
Anyway its been very enlightening to have a dialogue with you even though you are so way off the mark with your logic.
Thank you and good night!
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
Claiming paranoia is a very convenient way to downplay justified distrust of those in power.
There are lessons in history that always suggest that power corrupts. With that in mind, how can anyone with rational thought trust anybody in power?
Paranoia is when such distrust becomes delusional. The corruption of those in power and the following distrust of such people is anything but.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
The only thing I can conclude is that we agree to disagree, and that's perfectly fine.
And, usually, thanking somebody is done when there is genuine gratitude. I somehow find your farewell to be sarcastic, especially after suggesting that I represent "why America is so crap" and that I should "get a life."
Well, here's a parting shot for you.
"everything was all right, the struggle was finished. had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."
Intersonus903 4 years ago
Konbanwa.
Typo.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
"Kombanwa" to you.
(And here's a kancho for you, too.)
Intersonus903 4 years ago
Furthermore, attacking another person's position by not sticking with the subject at hand and, instead, deviating from the topic by attacking the person's grammar and spelling shows a weakness in your contention, that you have no class, or both.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
How sad you are.
You represent why America is so crap!
Get a life wanker!
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
Are trite and tired insults the best you can do?
You disappoint me, but I'm understanding of the fact that you aren't indicative of your countrymen.
In addition, I've made many points arguing against your contentions and you aren't able to counter even ONE point. Instead, you decided it would be easier to insult me by falling back on an overused cliché (get a life).
Thank you for proving MY point about YOU (no class, ignorant, arrogant, unwilling to think).
Intersonus903 4 years ago
My friend. I dont think that you are in the USA right now, or if you ever have been. The minimum time difference is GMT-5Hrs to get me to Eastern daylight saving. Its now 09-45 GMThere soi ts 04-45hrs there.
You TRY to appear to be an illuminati.
My case to you is simple.
Why would anybody be bothered about CCTV cameras unless they have something to hide?
QED.
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
1. I live in the United States, in the state of Florida, to be precise. I was born in El Paso, Texas, so that makes me a citizen.
2. I'm a night person, so that explains why I'm up late.
3. Again, because the system can be abused.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
Hey inter
Im working thru your postings.
can you explain point 3; "Because the system can be abused"
Is there paranoia here?
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
People in authority (a.k.a. power) are still people. That means the possibility of abuse by authority or the use of such a system for unintended purposes through bribery and etc. is possible. You can't possibly think that there aren't corrupt members of the constabulary, do you?
Plus, if the system is managed on a computer network, count on somebody finding ways to exploit weaknesses in that system. Some do it because of a sinister motive while others do it just to see if it can be done.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
Continued..We have laws in this country provided by the Houses of Parliament. By and large they provide security for the individual. Under no circumstances would the Police or others be trampling on individual freedoms without a genuine reason.(Anti terrorist measures would IMHO be a reasonable interruption of Habeus Corpus).
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
How can you be sure that you can trust your authorities?
As for many of the anti-terrorist measures in the United States, I tend to disagree with them myself under the same basis. The Patriot Act is a clear affront to the 1st Amendment.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
I wasnt aware that Youtube limits postings to 500 characters, hence my split posting today.
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
And you didn't note my split postings before?
Intersonus903 4 years ago
Inter''
Ive just watched you on your homepage. You are American. My apologies. But what time do you go to bed?
I lived in Bradenton Fl for 12 years and believe me whatever you guys are indoctrinated with by your government/media/NRA, you are not living in a free or fair or just society.
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
The media are a mixed up lot, so I take what they say with a grain of salt and try to find information on my own. I distrust government, hence my insistence for the 2nd Amendment. The NRA is about protecting the 2nd because without it, the ability to defend the Bill of Rights is lost (think about that, if the people can't defend their rights by force if need be, then what's to stop government from treading on them?).
Intersonus903 4 years ago
I find it fascinating that you'd assume "indoctrination," even though the media is mostly antagonistic against the NRA and the government's relationship to both tends to be cyclical. Very chaotic.
And, what, pray tell, is your definition for "free, or fair, or just."
To me, it's being yourself and having the freedom to do anything you want so long as what you do doesn't violate the freedom of others.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
Inter
you wrote And, what, pray tell, is your definition for "free, or fair, or just."
Well how about Ruby Ridge, Waco,Hurricane Katrina in N.O. Texans capital punishment agenda, Floridas call for Bush when Gore won and a load of other stuff too much to mention. cont
fabdrabcrab 4 years ago
Ruby Ridge, Waco, and the problem with Hurricane Katrina are all examples of why government is not to be trusted and that the people should keep an eye out on government, not the other way around.
Intersonus903 4 years ago 2
As for capital punishment, there is justification for the death penalty, IMO, if a person has been proven guilty of a crime so heinous that anything less than that is simply unjust for the victim and his/her family.
Incarceration is supposed to rehabilitate an offender so he/she can be a productive member of society. Life imprisonment sort of defeats that purpose. Further, life in jail can be more inhumane if that life is rife with violence and suffering.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
As for the election between Bush and Gore, there are lessons in that as well, although everything about the whole situation was rendered complicated by both sides of the party that it's difficult to sort out the rubbish from facts.
But, one lesson that ought to be considered: electronic voting has a specific downfall that paper voting does not, which is the possibility of being hacked to skew election results.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
And I'm not accepting of your apology for mistaking my country of origin.
Your egregious suggestion to get a life followed by a pejorative for a person who jacks off wasn't deserving of such consideration as well?
Intersonus903 4 years ago
Now we know our own troops and police will turn against (We the People). We are not The United States of America any more. Sad.....very sad.....
hrnyolbiker 4 years ago 4
POLICE STATE. WITHOUT ACTUALLY USING FORE? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU CALL ENTERING HOUSES WITH WEAPONS DRAWN? CUFFING PEOPLE AND FORCING THEM OUT?? WTF?? SHITTY REPORTING..IT's propagandas...it wasn't just wealthy neighborhoods
SeppLainer 4 years ago 2
They didnt go in with food and water. They went in with guns and harrassed everyone.
We can deliver food to the other side of the planet (the tsunami) in 12 hours. Yet- It takes weeks for the Gov to get food to its own people.
Add it up. It is no accident. Realize. Not Accident.
newton2013 4 years ago 4
People are drowning and losing all their property and all these people are there to do is kick down our doors with rifles drawn and steal our means of defense.
baird1984 4 years ago 4
you better hope they dont knock on your door and steal your rights
ackack03 4 years ago 3