@knarf856 Two at a time stacked and book matched. It's a shooting board and is an old common method. There is a youtube by Todd Stock showing how to make one and use it.
i am from Argentina and I'm starting on this path of guitar-like to know the design and dimensions of the instrument you use to brush the tops. what you use at the beginning of the video where you support caps. sorry for my English
Man! I am hooked! I just spent the last 3 hours watching almost every video and every one is amazing and really informative, thank you very much for the awesome videos! Not only am I now going to save money but I am super amped to start on my first OO build, thanks!
nice and easy but with this method you can't scrub the woods for eliminating the excess glue. And excess glue will always make some thick layer which always weakens the bond.
If the joint is tight and properly prepared the tape will have enough clamping pressure to squeeze out any excess glue in the joint. When hot hide glue dries it actually pulls the wood together also. Excess glue on the surface doesn't matter and is always sanded off when thickness sanding the plates. Proper joint preperation is really what's the most important here. Wood surface to surface and no gaps with a fresh wood surface so that oxidation doesn't interfear with the gluing surface.
Yes I know these, Im a violin maker too, but as you know even hide glue pulls the woods together, if its in thick layer, which can be if its high consistence that thick layer between the wood can cause problems. Altough guitar tops dont have the same direct pressure on like violin tops, they are mostly same still.How 'bout first scrubbing woods and then taping them with strong strech action? Pulling pwr should be about same and as you knw hide glue doesnt need much pressing. Have you tried this?
Perhaps I'm confused as to what you mean by Scrubbing the woods? I was thinking you were talking about scrapping the squeeze out completely off the surface. The tape I'm using is elastic and does pull back giving clamping pressure. That's the nice thing about it.
No, I meant to scrub the two pairs each other after applying the glue for taking out the excess glue on gluing surfaces.
Yes I use the same kind of tape, but I still think pulling power of any tape is just not enough for squeezing out the excess glue totally at the moment of clamping. So I suggest rubbing the woods agains each other to squeeze the excess glue maximally, and then appling the tapes. In this way a stronger bond can be achieved. Sorry for my faulty english meanwhile.
There's no problem with your english. I see what you are saying now. I might give that a try sometime. I'm always looking for better ways of doing things and trying out new ideas if I think it will work better. More then one way to skin that cat. One thing nice about the Luthier community is the sharing of ideas and technics.
Yes I agree, thats why I watch youtube videos. There are tons of luthier out there. And everyday I learn new tip and tricks. Its just like an online workshop.
I came to me today that if I just turned the boards over and made the tent and turned it 90 degrees that I could just run the glue down the ridge and push it down to clamp it and save the time of unfolding it and the such. Anything to save time and make it easier especially when using HHG.
Great tip Chris, thanks. It surely beats setting up clamps and wedges.
motimenow 5 days ago
Hallo Chris, this is Frank from the Netherlands. Great video I learned a lot of it.
If you don’t mind I’ve got a question about de first 30 sec. of the video.
You are using a self-made tool on witch you are shaving the edge of the top wood (so there will no space between the two pieces)
Question: are you shaving one peace at the time, or are you shaving two pieces on each other?
I can’t see it on the video when you taking away the woods. Greetings, Frank
knarf856 4 months ago
@knarf856 Two at a time stacked and book matched. It's a shooting board and is an old common method. There is a youtube by Todd Stock showing how to make one and use it.
chrispaulick 4 months ago
@chrispaulick Thanks Chris you are a great help to me. Think I"ll going to build the shooting board.
knarf856 4 months ago
@knarf856 Look up "Making a Luthiers Shooting Board " by MDLuthier
chrispaulick 4 months ago
where'd did you get the claro walnut. I have black walnut i'm using now, but i want to see the subtle tone differences
sirgreggins8824 4 months ago
i am from Argentina and I'm starting on this path of guitar-like to know the design and dimensions of the instrument you use to brush the tops. what you use at the beginning of the video where you support caps. sorry for my English
sermserm 1 year ago
Man! I am hooked! I just spent the last 3 hours watching almost every video and every one is amazing and really informative, thank you very much for the awesome videos! Not only am I now going to save money but I am super amped to start on my first OO build, thanks!
ajitaw 1 year ago
I also like your inlaying videos, but I think ı dont have that kind of patience for inlay work. You must really have the free time :)
sarelle500gr 2 years ago
nice and easy but with this method you can't scrub the woods for eliminating the excess glue. And excess glue will always make some thick layer which always weakens the bond.
sarelle500gr 2 years ago
If the joint is tight and properly prepared the tape will have enough clamping pressure to squeeze out any excess glue in the joint. When hot hide glue dries it actually pulls the wood together also. Excess glue on the surface doesn't matter and is always sanded off when thickness sanding the plates. Proper joint preperation is really what's the most important here. Wood surface to surface and no gaps with a fresh wood surface so that oxidation doesn't interfear with the gluing surface.
chrispaulick 2 years ago
Yes I know these, Im a violin maker too, but as you know even hide glue pulls the woods together, if its in thick layer, which can be if its high consistence that thick layer between the wood can cause problems. Altough guitar tops dont have the same direct pressure on like violin tops, they are mostly same still.How 'bout first scrubbing woods and then taping them with strong strech action? Pulling pwr should be about same and as you knw hide glue doesnt need much pressing. Have you tried this?
sarelle500gr 2 years ago
Perhaps I'm confused as to what you mean by Scrubbing the woods? I was thinking you were talking about scrapping the squeeze out completely off the surface. The tape I'm using is elastic and does pull back giving clamping pressure. That's the nice thing about it.
chrispaulick 2 years ago
No, I meant to scrub the two pairs each other after applying the glue for taking out the excess glue on gluing surfaces.
Yes I use the same kind of tape, but I still think pulling power of any tape is just not enough for squeezing out the excess glue totally at the moment of clamping. So I suggest rubbing the woods agains each other to squeeze the excess glue maximally, and then appling the tapes. In this way a stronger bond can be achieved. Sorry for my faulty english meanwhile.
sarelle500gr 2 years ago
There's no problem with your english. I see what you are saying now. I might give that a try sometime. I'm always looking for better ways of doing things and trying out new ideas if I think it will work better. More then one way to skin that cat. One thing nice about the Luthier community is the sharing of ideas and technics.
chrispaulick 2 years ago 3
Yes I agree, thats why I watch youtube videos. There are tons of luthier out there. And everyday I learn new tip and tricks. Its just like an online workshop.
sarelle500gr 2 years ago
I came to me today that if I just turned the boards over and made the tent and turned it 90 degrees that I could just run the glue down the ridge and push it down to clamp it and save the time of unfolding it and the such. Anything to save time and make it easier especially when using HHG.
chrispaulick 2 years ago
I use this too, Chris, except that I use Stew-Mac binding tape. works GREAT!
hackerguitar 2 years ago
Nicely done, Chris -
MDLuthier 2 years ago
That's way too easy... thanks I like it.
albertaboyz 2 years ago
Great tip there Chris.Thanks for sharing it.
punchion 2 years ago