On the so called moral imperative for Health care reform

[nashnwo0]

Fire Dept okay to be run by the government Ambulance okay to be run by the government Police okay to be run by the government Infrastructure okay to be run by the government Trillions given to a war OK the government knows best Health care Not on your life you socialist traitor!!

I don't think I will ever figure out the Yanks...

Ever First world country has always started Universal health care in a depression or in debt this the system is bankrupt is BS.

[TheAustrian08]

Do you even do research before you respond? there are a growing number of hospitals that contract with private ambulance companies, California has a growing number of private fire care companies do to all the forest fires, The gov has succeeded in destroying infrastructure. And there was no good reason to go to war, as most Americans realize.

The NHS is set to have an 8 billion pound defecit by 2010, is some Fat Lord not paying his fair share?

[Krumbz2003]

I don't know where you get your information from... but you have no idea how badly America needed Healthcare Reform. It is INSANITY.

BUT... 2 things.

1. YOU. CAN. KEEP. YOUR. PLAN. THAT. YOU. HAVE. NOW. (Including your Doctors).

2. Your state... that you live in... can OPT OUT of the Public Option in its entirety.

Now we'll be able to see CLEARLY if the new Healthcare system works or doesn't.

As far as morals go... yeah everyone should chip in for their fellow American. Everyone.

[1234heckman1234]

enjoy your chains

[Krumbz2003]

Chains? Really?

Which chains would those be? Just curious.

[1234heckman1234]

YOUR SLAVERY CHAINS DUMMASSSSSSSS

[Krumbz2003]

Slavery chains?

Please explain IN DETAIL.

And cut the insults.

Thanx.

[Darkwizzrobe]

1. The employer based health care will dimish over time to let the goverment pay for it.

2. Like that matters even if a state ops out the people will still be paying for it.

3. We already have Medicaid and Medicare and they are both in the red by trillions of dollars.

4. Most of the people who do not have any medicare are out of collage students and people who don't bother to get insurance because they think they are healthy as is.

[Krumbz2003]

1. That's an assumption but fine with me anyway because I'm all for single payer anyway. Private insurance companies have a choke hold on healthcare right now and nobody is giving them any competition. They need competition to be forced to lower their premiums and costs.

2. This is an unfortunate compromise for all of the democratic voters in republican states who WILL opt out.

3. Medicaid and Medicare BOTH work EXTREMELY well. Ask your parents.

4. That's ashame that they think that.

[TheAustrian08]

Do you even look for stats before you start blathering? Medicare is going BANKRUPT, TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE DRAWING FROM THE FUND AND NOT ENOUGH REPLACE IT. It only got worse when George Bush gave them prescription drugs. Taxes will have to be raised in 4 years to compensate, and regardless 150 billion just got cut from Medicare to pay for this new monstrosity...

[Krumbz2003]

You're right that they did cut some parts of Medicare.

Which parts did they cut? And WHY did they cut those parts?

[TheAustrian08]

1. The government will CROWD OUT PRIVATE INSURANCE, there's a reason their are hardly any private schools in America, because no one is willing to pay for them when their taxed for the public schools anyway.

2. I live in Illinois, there is NO WAY IN HELL MY STATE WILL OPT OUT. IN OTHER WORDS, I'M BEING PUNISHED BY THE GOVERNMENT INSTEAD OF AN HMO, SAME PROBLEM, DIFFERENT PROBLEM MAKER.

And no, there is no moral reason to steal from someone to give to someone else. Ever.

[Krumbz2003]

Do you or did you goto a private school?

[1234heckman1234]

heres another moral imperative..LEGALIZE POT.....its for my eyes

[TheAustrian08]

Go ahead. I don't care if we legalize pot or not, and it would simply be taxed to high hell anyway.