so tired of african americans crying wolf.....as of this time in life you are not slaves, were not slaves and will not be slaves...you are the ones who are racist...I see it all the time....you do wrong, but blame others because you ancesters were slaves...it is over...we (whites) can't have an all white channel...all white school....all white scholarship...so who is racist? whites are the minority now...God bless us all.
Turn on your TV & tell me it isn't "white TV" every fuckn channel. Every show just about & 99.5% of commercial;ALL white. It drives me crazy to even have the TV on b/c all I hear is white. Yet 'white privilege gives U room to bitch about B.E.T.
Some whites go to majority black schools. Ur free to apply @ any predominately black school.Just like some blacks apply to predominately white schools(but U'd rather bitch & moan).
Is your cussing me from behind a keyboard suppose to make U brave or look different from typical cheap white trailer trash?
Grow up already.
Blacks are inundated w/ white folks & your ways of life. We've no choice but to deal w/ it. We try to get just a little to call our own & get a break from U. Yet U people go out of your way to give a care as to what we do in & amongst each other, for each other? WHY?
Haven't U all stolen enough from us thru out history?
@clevelandman2010 Whites do have a month -- they have the other 11 months of the year. And, let's be honest, they have February, too. So whites have 12 months of the year; blacks get some lip service one month a year and it makes you feel oppressed.
@Z200a What do you mean Whites 'have' 11 months? We have NOTHING. Think about it. There isn't any time when Whites can say "I'm proud to be White", but Blacks can say it three times a year (Martin Luther King Day, Black History Month, and Kwanzaa), if not more. And Mexicans can say "I'm proud to be Mexican". All non-White races can observe their heritage, But we White people are attacked when we try to observe our heritage, being falsely accused of committing racism.
I had made my point & forgot about this vid. Until this other idiot here reminded me of this post. So I checked out your channel only to find typical white privileged Bs. Why am I not surprised?
Here's an idea;mind white business.
What do U care about the little bit that blacks have here?
Whites like U would be better served learning about why U are the way U are. Rather than caring about destroying our piece of mind in the U.S.
Tim Wise's vids on "white privilege" can help U w/ that
im from tennessee alot of racist here they love the idea of the south riseing again. i did study them the biggist answer id throw at them is general lee from virgina hated the south he wanted to go fight for the north but virgina was racist and he was loyal to his state
The real question is Bob MacDonald out of his mind or a racist? In order to get any votes, the republican party became a rural, southern party for ignorant whites who were upset that they lost the civil rights era. This is driving them into a minority status, even with all the corporate money
i live in the greatest stae in the world, Virginia. and am so proud of being from here. but this video is made by a buncha liberal ass people. the CIVIL WAR WAS NOT BASED ON SLAVERY. IT WAS FOR STATES RIGHTS IN THE SOUTH. if any dumbass thinks the rebel flag stands for slavery.. your a fucking idiot. these liberal ass bastards need to get the hell outta my state and home.
@bobbylfan47 For a person from the South, from Virginia!, you know shockingly little about your own history. Not about slavery?!
Why don't you read Alexander Stephen's Cornerstone Speech? It's online. You can read the whole thing within the next ten minutes. If you actually want to know your history.
Why don't you read Lincoln's House Divided speech? It's online, too.
Or read Lincoln's 1st Inaugural Address -- or his 2nd Inaugural Address. Or read the state articles of secession.
Delaware was a slave state, it was in the Union. Illinois forbid free blacks to live in the state. It was in the Union. The Civil War was not over racism. It was about state's rights, ignorant Turk.
What always gets me is people act as if the North had no slaves, are you kidding. Gen Grant or at lest his wife had slaves, she was hardly the only one. Also Gen. Lee didnt own slaves hisself, but his wife did and they were inherited. Mrs Robert E Lee was the great granddaughter of Martha Washington step great granddaughter of George Washington, So, it s not like any one was beter or nobler then the other
if anyone actually studied the civil war, the confederates were the good guys. Sure, slavery was a bad thing, but we didnt split for that reason, we split because the union were making unfair laws that supported the industries of the north but interfered with the agriculture of the south. We fought for states rights. The union fought to take us back. But people assume that the confederate flag is a sign of racism when its really a sign of southern patrioism.
hey there whoever is on this video .. the president of the US during the Civil War was Republican .. this is not a Republican vs Democrat issue .. you need to learn more about history obviously .. stop posting videos on YouTube and do some research ....
AND, according to PBS dot org "The federal government had a harder time deciding what to do about escaping slaves. Finally, on August 6, 1861, fugitive slaves were declared to be "contraband of war" if their labor had been used to aid the Confederacy in any way. And if found to be contraband, they were declared FREE."
So in effect, this ruling overrode the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850....how you like that now?
Why do you keep talking about the war when I'm still talking about events BEFORE it? I've been talking about when the Underground Railroad helped escapees flee to Canada during its most prominent years (1850-1860). You didn't even answer my question about the Fugitive Slave Act but instead, like you've done many times before, you try to prove some other point.
@jaranarm Because the Civil War overrode the events before it. What happened during and after the war compared to events BEFORE the war are two different events. The Fugitive Slave Act which written in 1850 was null and void when President Lincoln took over in 1860, therefore any Slaves fleeing the South and into the North, where declared to be "contraband of war" (against Slavery), which means that some random Northerner can't return Slaves to the South because they were then free in the north
I just don't understand why you're talking about the law when it no longer applied. I'm NOT talking about when the civil war overrode it. I'm talking about when it was still in effect and why it was the reason why Canada was the preferred destination of the escaped slaves. Isn't that what I've been telling you this whole damn time? Good Lord.
@jaranarm No, the Fugitive Slave act was not active from when the Lincoln Admin. took over the United States, hence from radford dot edu which states
Lincoln wanted to end slavery and keep the Union together." It also states the cultural differences in that the North has freedom for Slaves, while the South depended on Slaves.
And from pbs dot org which states that any run away Slaves from the South and into the North are "Contrabands of War" against slavery therefore are FREE in the North.
AND, according to PBS dot org: The federal government had a harder time deciding what to do about escaping slaves. Finally, on August 6, 1861, fugitive slaves were declared to be "contraband of war" if their labor had been used to aid the Confederacy in any way. And if found to be contraband, they were declared FREE."
So in effect, this ruling overrode the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850....how you like that now?
What do you suppose would've happened to the freedoms of Blacks had the Confederates hypothetically won the Civil War? Answer: Blacks would still be slaves to this day. The Confederate flag is akin to the Nazi Flag....
Wrong. Had the Confederacy won the civil war they would have freed the slaves. It was planned in 1863 when Confederate diplomat Duncan F. Kenner gave the proposal to the Southern leaders and then to the European powers a year later. But the North won the war and now they receive all the credit for ending slavery.
@jaranarm So then why is it know that Blacks fleed the Confederate States to be free in the United States? Harriett Beecher Stowe wrote a book called, "Uncle Tom's Cabin" in which Blacks where secretly smuggled away from their slave masters in the Confederate States into freedom with the Abolitionists in the United States, which poses a lot of truth in that book. What's your opinion on that?
First off, Uncle Tom's Cabin was fiction. Second, Stowe wrote the novel based on slaves escaping from Kentucky, which wasn't a Confederate state. Lastly, slaves using the Underground Railroad wished to reach Canada, where real freedom was. Before the civil war it was illegal for blacks to stay in some Northern states for a certain number of days. States like Illinois and Indiana didn't allow blacks in their state at all while they lived in segregated degraded conditions in others.
@jaranarm Sure, many slaves fled the SOUTH and into some areas of Canada, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, , Massachussetts...mostly states in the NORTH. Kentucky was a slave state, so with that said, which side had the most slave states? Hint: Most Abolitonists where located in the North, and the Slave holders where in the South.
Of course most slave states were in the South. Most in the North abolished slavery for practical reasons such as climate and industrialization. Abolitionists existed in the South as well, especially those who participated in the Underground Railroad. Just because a state permitted slavery didn't mean all whites were pro-slavery and all blacks were enslaved. The average Southerner didn't own a slave. Before the war half a million free blacks were part of the South's population.
Of course most slave states were in the South. Most in the North abolished slavery for practical reasons such as climate and industrialization. Abolitionists existed in the South as well, especially those who participated in the Underground Railroad. Just because a state permitted slavery didn't mean all whites were pro-slavery and all blacks were enslaved. The average Southerner didn't own a slave. Before the war half a million free blacks were part of the South's population.
When did I say they weren't? You basically said they were fleeing the slave states to be in the free states in the U.S., which is technically incorrect considering their real destination was Canada.
@jaranarm Oh really? You don't think Pennsylvania, Massachussetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire, New Yortk, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Ohio weren't free states?
Escaped slaves were not "free" in any of those states or anywhere else in America due to the fugitive slave clauses, not unless they were officially freed by their masters. They were protected if they went to Canada under its laws. You need to do more reading.
@jaranarm I did my historical research, and you're flat out lying. These states were free. Everybody in the US, and in the world knows this fact. Get over it. And now I suppose you're going to tell me that all teh Abolitionists were all in Canada, right?
Wrong. If you were a slave who escaped into a free state it did not mean you were free all of a sudden, you were considered a fugitive who needed to be returned to his master in the slave state he came from. If you were a freed black then there was no problem. When a state is considered free it just means slavery is illegal there, it didn't mean any slave who touched free soil was automatically a free man. However, if they reached Canada none of these laws will apply.
@jaranarm Oh please, go ahead and type in google search engine "AMERICAN CIVIL WAR FREE STATES" and click on images, and take a good look. Pennsylvania, Massachussetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire, New Yortk, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Ohio are all free states, as taught in the US History academics across the nation and the world. Even Smithsonian Museum teaches this. Trust me you're self-brainwashed twisted history is futile.
You obviously didn't read a single word I told you. Being an escaped slave in a free state was not the same as being a free black in a free state. I guess you never heard of the Fugitive Slave Act of 1793 or the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. Such laws were the reason why abolitionists all over the country were helping these people escape into Canada. You're doing the past a great disservice with your ignorance of history.
@jaranarm Ignorance? Did you even look at the US Map of which are the free slates and the slave states? Guess who's ignorant. PLUS, The 13th amendment was passed at the end of the Civil War when the Union Army defeated the Confederate Army in 1865 thus forcing the Southern states to free their slaves. But then came the Jim Crow laws in the South...hatred never ends in the south does it?
How am I being ignorant? It was made federal law for runaway slaves to be returned to their masters. It's in the Fugitive Slave Act passed by Congress, go read it. Why else would they need to go to Canada? Escaped slaves weren't safe anywhere in America. And why are you talking about the end of the war all of a sudden? I'm still talking about before the war. I'm giving you facts of history here yet you respond to me that way.
The 13th amendment wasn't adopted until 1865. The Fugitive Slave Acts were passed in 1793 and 1850. Have you seriously lost all forms of reason and resorted to ad hominem attacks to prove a point?
@jaranarm according to ourdocuments dot gov: The 13th amendment, which formally ABOLISHED slavery in the United States, passed the Senate on April 8, 1864, and the House on January 31, 1865. On February 1, 1865. "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
Now define the word, ABOLISH....or do you want me to do that for you?
What does the 13th amendment have to do with what I've been talking about? I'm saying the Underground Railroad went up to Canada because escaped slaves weren't safe in the United States due to the Fugitive Slave Acts. Obviously this wouldn't apply after 1865 because slavery was then abolished, meaning all federal laws pertaining to slavery were dissolved. Seriously, you couldn't piece that one together?
@jaranarm Okay so according to National Geograhic, and the autobiographies of both Harriett Tubman and Frederick Douglass, many slaves did in fact escape from the SOUTH (emphasized) and onto Canada, AND to the northern states too. Or do you actually think that ALL the slaves escaped to Canada and none to any of the Northern states...what say you?
Harriet Tubman was helping slaves escape into the free states in 1849 (the year she escaped) before the Fugitive Slave Act was put into federal law by Congress in 1850 that strengthened the former bill, which was really when the Railroad took off. Escaped slaves had to go to Canada from that point. There's a reason why I kept emphasizing the years these laws were enacted. Even Nat Geo's website describes Tubman showing others "how to follow the North Star to freedom in Canada".
@jaranarm Tell me where Harriet Tubman died and buried at? Canada or the US? Pick one. And when you're done with that tell me where Frederick Douglass live, died and buried at? US or Canada? Pick one again. Your answer will then prove my point....
Tubman risked her life staying behind to help others to freedom. It wasn't uncommon for both escaped slaves and freedmen to do that because they needed conductors to aid the escapees. Douglass removed his slave status using forged papers after his wife helped him escape, something not many could get away with. If not for that he'd be sent back to his master because of the law. All your questions can be answered with facts and reason. What point were you trying to make anyway?
@jaranarm You didn't answer the question directly. Here I'll answer it for you. Both Harriett Tubman and Frederick Douglass were buried in the US of A, particularly in the Union area of the US of A ;)
@jaranarm If you think that the Harriett Tubman and/or Frederick Douglass hated the Union area, then why do you suppose they didn't they spent the rest of their lives in Canada? Maybe perhaps there were more Free States in the North of the US of A....hmmmmm
Since when did I say they hated the Union? Putting words in my mouth now? Tubman didn't leave because she was secretly aiding escaped slaves along the railroad. Douglass didn't leave because he became a free man by way of forging his identification papers and was able to conduct abolition activities in the country. For someone who has never heard of the Fugitive Slave Act or any ounce of history I'm not surprised you're also poor at comprehension.
@jaranarm You were certainly implying that Harriett Tubman and the other Abolitionists avoided bringing Slaves from the South into the North because the Union are more dangerous than the Cofederates. If that was the case, then Harriett Tubman, Frederick Douglass, and the rest of the Abolitionists should've lived the rest of their lives and therefore buried in Canada. But the fact that they preferred to live their lives in the Union areas instead of the Confederate South area, proves my point
@jaranarm You were certainly implying that Harriett Tubman and the other Abolitionists avoided bringing Slaves from the South into the North because the Union are more dangerous than the Cofederates. If that was the case, then Harriett Tubman, Frederick Douglass, and the rest of the Abolitionists should've lived the rest of their lives and therefore buried in Canada, right? So again why do you suppose Harriett Tubman preferred to live and die in the North rather than Canada?
Where was I implying that? Harriet Tubman was a conductor of the Underground Railroad, whose stations were throughout the U.S. so why would she be in Canada? The Underground Railroad didn't run in Canada. Frederick Douglass became a free man and used his free status to advocate against slavery in the U.S. What is so difficult to understand here? So not only are you poor at comprehension you are also poor at analysis.
@jaranarm What? Are you for real? Why don't you take a look back at all what you said about the Northern States being dangerous for run away Slaves from the south, that they fled to Canada instead. And I said that if that were the case, then history would dictate that Harriett Tubman, Frederick Douglas, and Abolitionists brought ALL the Freed Slaves into Canada they all lived, died, and buried there....IN CANADA. But you and I and everybody else knows that's not true, so quit making up shit
I'm not making up anything. While escaping into another state was good for getting away from your master, it's still a risk because you weren't safe from the law. If you were a slave from Delaware who escaped into Pennsylvania and you were caught by officials (and your papers showed you're a slave) then you were sent back to your master in Delaware. This was federal law, go look it up. The only way to be 100% free of that law was to go to Canada. Get that through your thick skull.
@jaranarm Besides Canada, go ahead and Look up "Civil War Free States" in your search engine and get back to me on what States did Blacks fled to from the south to be free. Name those states.
@jaranarm According to radford dot edu: "A civil war is a war between different groups of people who belong to the same country. The American Civil War was fought between the North (Union states) and the South (Confederate states). It lasted from 1861-1865, triggered by the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860. Lincoln wanted to end slavery and keep the Union together." It also states the cultural differences in that the North has freedom for Slaves, while the South depended on Slaves
@jaranarm the state of texas officially declared, in writing: "Texas ...was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in ALL FUTURE TIME."
Nothing is written in stone, stupid. The states of Illinois and Indiana once barred blacks from even entering their state on the issue of color for all time at one point. What are you trying to say? The majority of the white race didn't have blacks serving them, and it certainly doesn't count for the free blacks who lived in the slave states either.
@jaranarm youre an idiot. "Had the Confederacy won the civil war they would have freed the slaves." completely false. the whole reason they fought the war was to preserve the institution of slavery--the states of the confederacy made written declarations explicitly stating this.
You don't know your history. At first the Union wanted to bring the South back while promising to keep slavery, but the South wanted to leave to preserve it on their own. Halfway into the war the goals of both sides changed to freeing the slaves. When the South was winning Lincoln gave the Emancipation Proclamation. Then the North started winning so Confederate diplomat Duncan F. Kenner told Jefferson Davis to free the slaves to save the Confederacy and he agreed.
@jaranarm hi, retard. im not talking about what historians say. im talking about written declarations the states made themselves, citing slavery is the reason for seceding.
Yes that's what they had written, but I like I said nothing is written in stone, dumbass. Look what happened after the war started. Just because it's written down doesn't mean it's going to be that way forever and ever.
@jaranarm people write on paper... not on stone. the war would not have started if it werent for the states seceding to preserve slavery. and the states declared the preservation of slavery as their reason for seceding; no matter how many red herrings you come up with, nothing will ever, ever change that fact--it will never change. get over it.
Okay so if they wanted to secede for some other reason then you'd be okay with it. Fact is it didn't matter what reason they were going to secede for. Washington was not going to let half the country leave.
@jaranarm if it were not a fact that they wanted to secede to preserve the institution of slavery--again, which it was--and instead... they wanted to secede to preserve democracy, or the planet... yeah, i think id be more sympathetic to the secessionist states.
I don't think it would have mattered though. Lincoln's goal back then was to preserve the union and was willing to bring back the seceding states by whatever force was necessary. I don't why this is continued to be called a civil war when it technically wasn't.
@jaranarm youre perpetually trying to change the subject. it doesnt matter if lincoln wanted to preserve the union to save money on car insurance; the confederate states still seceded to preserve negro slavery--that will forever be the case.
But why is the fact they seceded to preserve the institution bother you so much, when Washington was trying to preserve it to keep the union together? Both sides were trying to preserve slavery for their own end goals.
@jaranarm it doesnt. im stating a fact which contradicts your claim that "Had the Confederacy won the civil war they would have freed the slaves." the confederate states explicitly cited the preservation of slavery as their reason for seceding. that fact is never going away, no matter how hard you try to direct attention away from it.
The declarations of secession were made with the slaveowners in mind because they were the rich minority that ruled the South and were the ones most affected by Washington's policies. They don't, however, talk about the Southern commoners who had no dealings with the institution. To think that all Southerners who supported the Confederacy agreed with the slaveowners is ludicrous. They too were being economically affected.
@jaranarm you are so desperate to distract from the fact that the states seceded to preserve the institution of negro slavery. lol, maybe next time i hear someone bash germany for ww2 and acts leading up to it, i can try and redirect them to how not all civilians/soldiers hated jews in nazi germany.
So what? Washington was planning to preserve slavery for all time with the Corwin Amendment and the South still left. And sorry to break this to you but Jews did serve in some of Hitler's highest ranks in the Nazi Party. Go read a book.
@payasoinfeliz Some Southerners freed thier slaves in thier wills if not in person, it s not a one size fits all isuse. No not all Slave owners did but more then a couple. Mrs Robert E Lee freed her slaves no latter then 1862 in accordance to her fathers will. Slavery was largely dying out any way if the Union hadnt been so SELF RIGHIOUS..as if there were no slave in the North, gaggggggggggg. I as a 21 Centry woman think slavery is wrong but I wasnt liveing in that time and place
The Confederacy seceded for the sole purpose of retaining slaves. I can think of a few things America could learn from it, but certainly nothing positive.
@urkelette well if its dead then why are we having this convo. go ahead and keep thinking its dead makes no difference. just show how ignorant your mind is ON this. no here to insult just to point out facts. Not saying were perfect just saying we did loose...yes we did. but i wouldn't be typing this if we were dead.
@wil777RedneckJuggalo People with all this 'Southern pride' crap are more annoying than foreigners coming over here bragging about how great their home country is. If its that great, go back. Difference is these rednecks don't have anywhere to go back to because...oh yeah...you lost the war.
Ok so what your saying is that we shouldn't remember the confederacy? so what your saying is having a black history month is ok? first off, half the blacks in america arent even from africa, they cant even trace their roots there. second who is this dumbass to say that we shouldnt remember the confederacy. there are plenty of blacks who are proud southerners. only about 1 percent of all southerners owned slaves an they were the rich white plantation owners. so try again.
Ummm, retardo, yes the Civil War was fought to preserve the Union? Why did the Union fall apart?
Because slavery was being banned in the western states. People who say it was not about slavery have their heads up their ass. Of course it was about slavery. It was all about slavery.
@rubberbaby00 There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil. - Robert E. Lee
fuck obama...SOUTH all the way and who gives a shit is she is rasict...we all have opinions... stop complaining about how your ancestors were slaves stupid spooks.
the north had fuckin slavery dumbass the South only made up 34% of the u.s. but paid 80% of taxes many blacks fought willing for the Confederacy look up H.K. Edgerton asshole. Since the north had slavery then u should consider the american fag flag racist to. BITCHY YANKEE
The glorious South split because taxation without representation. at least the southern slaves didnt die we had em took care of fed got to celebrate their birthdays even the whites would go down and work with em. In the north they were sexually abused beaten and got lung cancer for working in smoke filled factories.DUMBASS
If the speaker here had ever actually studied history instead of repeating the sensationalised mass media agenda, he would know that the civil war and its split was due to the arguement over STATES RIGHTS to determin the governing of their own land and people. This CAN in fact be directly related to issuses today (i.e. the debate over national health care vs. states laws). Slavery was not an issue in the civil war untill lincoln needed a peice of propaganda to win the war.
Im an American Indian (Chippewa, a branch off of Ojibwe) with membership in the Bad River Reservation near Odanah Wisconsin, though I live in Williamsburg Virginia. Me and my family have lived in The Old Dominion State for generations. I had family fight for the Confederacy during the war and Im damn proud of that. This is our state's and my family's history and when we try to remember that we are accused of racism? Bastards, I'll be damned if I ever quit believing in the glory of the south!
@TennesseeReb1862 the union only pay their black soldier $10.00 a month and didn't want them fighting with the white soldiers that got $30.00 a month but the south had 200,000 blacks that fought for south and payed them $30.00 a month just as they did the white soldiers and they fought side by side.
@TennesseeReb1862 it is about time that someone came along that knows what happen in that war, they don't tell you that only 4 % of the south was rich enough to own slaves. if it was over slavery then why did the other 96% fight for? for all you union lover out there, maryland ,kentucky. missouri didn,t set there slaves free till 1868 cause the north said they was border states and didn't have to set them free in 1865. and as for H.K. Edgerton i would love shake hands with the man.
Hmm... let's see. Roughly 6% (if not less) of Virginians had slaves. So what were the other 94% fighting for? this resolution isn't to praise slavery, it's to remember what happened, and appreciate and learn from our history as a nation. If you would lay down your hate crusade for a moment you might see that.
if you had history in high school and in college you learnd that Lincoln was not trying really free the blacks. he was going to send tham back over seas to africa
I'm Native American and I think that Confederate History Month is important in Virginia because many students are ill-informed about the Confederacy. I could go on for days about how Virginia screwed my people but that's why we have Native American History Month. It's not a month celebrating the Confederacy and what it stood for, but it is to inform others about why Virginia seceded and what actually happened during the Civil War in a historical context.
@TennesseeReb1862 You know your history my friend. tomitstube wouldn't know a fact if it bit his butt. Mr Lincoln wanted to preserve the Union most of all. The North won because they had more money. They could also be against slavery, because they had no slaves. If the North had had slaves in the mid 1800s, then slavery would not have been abolished at that time. Also everyone knows that the South had the greatest military minds of that time period.
@bubbiz99 If i remember correctly there were a few union states that kept slavery even after the emancipation proclomation. Does a "righteous" government fighting to free people sound more like the U.S. government or a slave holding nation attacking another slave bearing nation while claiming it's all to free the slaves sound more like it? Personally, the latter one sounds more like the great and noble union to me.
@bubbiz99 if Lee would have listened to Longstreet at Gettyburg the war would have been over early. they had the union on the run. and from there D.C. would have been next.
well the confederate flag was never racist in its self but yes the conferates where wrong but the flag its self was a sign of rebellion against the union and i understand that some people dont like that part of our history but its out history we cant bury it or we face it sooner or later and if u really look at it its made us the country we are today so we should look at it as if it is a scar on our bodies it wont fade but it should have healed
...but can't we all just agree that "Rebs" & Confeder-idiots are all just butt hurt losers? And inbreeds too? And *their* "flag" (as opposed 2 the REAL Stars & Stripes) is a symbol of losers? Can't we all just agree on those simple facts?
@lancasterKENT the only loser i see is you. The stars & strips is high in my book because my son is a U.S. MARINE. but the stars & bars is close to my heart!!!
U guys still arguing about this ish? COME ON! Everyone knows the Confeder-idiots lost. Big Time! They're losers! That's what they do. That's what their loser "flag" stands 4... Losers. Heh. They're a joke. ...bcz they, um, lost. Just ignore them. As long as they've got sisters, moms & daughters they'll... well, u know. Inbreds. Just Sayin' Now excuse me while I go & crap on my confederate "flag" toilet paper.
@TennesseeReb1862 ~ you literally have no idea what you're talking about. i don't have time to argue with an ignorant racist apologist who just invents history because he can't come to terms with the truth.
@TennesseeReb1862 ~ stop pretending to be neutral, your identity blatantly screams what your biased racist agenda is. i know what speech you're talking about, it was while running for senator and yes lincoln does try to straddle the line for votes, but ultimately says he's for abolition and equal rights. you rednecks always point to that, and the one in the white house after being frustrated during the war. but the truth is, lincoln was always for ending slavery and actually did it.
@TennesseeReb1862 ~ so spare me with your fake b.s. about being fair and open minded. lincoln emancipated black slaves, he also got the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments passed. so if lincoln didn't do all these things why was he assassinated by a disgruntled rebel? .
the only thing you know about history is the southern apologist b.s. you make up. you lost, it was about slavery, the south was racist, and that's what the confederate flag stands for. racism.
@tomitstube you know it's people like you that makes the stars and bars battle flag stand for racism, the confederate flag is a white flag with the stars and bars in the upper left corner. to tell you all i am 1/4 Cherokee and the Cherokee fought for that flag, it was the union in 1838 that removed the Cherokee, Choctaw and the Creek from there land and made them walk the trail of tears! so who's side do you think i'll go with and it's not the union.
@stronghorse1000 ~ lol, another redneck who claims indian blood. what is up with that anyway? can you say andrew jackson? the trail of tears? you're a redneck who believes pseudo history by the klan.
@tomitstube you are a jerk!!!!! you are like all whites that thinks they are better than ever body else. who is probity part Mexican, and thats is lower than a redneck. I'm 25% part Cherokee and no buts about it' my grandmother was a full blood Cherokee. Andrew Jackson took the land from the Cherokee, the Creek, the Choctaw put them on the trail of tears to Oklahoma so he could give the land to the white man, just as they did with all my native brothers land in the west.
@tomitstube i have no use for the klan, but it sounds like you are one of them, and don't call me any of your family names. you know it sounds like my dog has more sense than you. and LONG LIVE THE SOUTH!!!!!!!!
the governor is CLEARLY for slavery, how stupid do you have to be to interpret his words in another way?
TheBenjamin9210 5 days ago
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clevelandman2010 6 days ago
It's not that republicans are against blacks...it's that liberals are against whites.
calimar28 1 week ago
so tired of african americans crying wolf.....as of this time in life you are not slaves, were not slaves and will not be slaves...you are the ones who are racist...I see it all the time....you do wrong, but blame others because you ancesters were slaves...it is over...we (whites) can't have an all white channel...all white school....all white scholarship...so who is racist? whites are the minority now...God bless us all.
1my2cents1 1 week ago
@1my2cents1
"Slavery" isn't the issue;your privilege is.
Turn on your TV & tell me it isn't "white TV" every fuckn channel. Every show just about & 99.5% of commercial;ALL white. It drives me crazy to even have the TV on b/c all I hear is white. Yet 'white privilege gives U room to bitch about B.E.T.
Some whites go to majority black schools. Ur free to apply @ any predominately black school.Just like some blacks apply to predominately white schools(but U'd rather bitch & moan).
smh
farronx 1 week ago
@farronx ARE YOU REALLY AS DUMB AS THEY COME LMAO MORE THAN 80 PERCENT ON TV IS NOTHING BUT BLACKS YOU FUCKING COCK LICKER HOMO BITCH I
clevelandman2010 6 days ago
@clevelandman
Is your cussing me from behind a keyboard suppose to make U brave or look different from typical cheap white trailer trash?
Grow up already.
Blacks are inundated w/ white folks & your ways of life. We've no choice but to deal w/ it. We try to get just a little to call our own & get a break from U. Yet U people go out of your way to give a care as to what we do in & amongst each other, for each other? WHY?
Haven't U all stolen enough from us thru out history?
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farronx 5 days ago
@farronx
Answer me this' Why cant the whites have a month like the blacks do' We have history other than slavery you know.
clevelandman2010 5 days ago
@clevelandman2010 Whites do have a month -- they have the other 11 months of the year. And, let's be honest, they have February, too. So whites have 12 months of the year; blacks get some lip service one month a year and it makes you feel oppressed.
That's just sad.
Z200a 5 days ago
@Z200a What do you mean Whites 'have' 11 months? We have NOTHING. Think about it. There isn't any time when Whites can say "I'm proud to be White", but Blacks can say it three times a year (Martin Luther King Day, Black History Month, and Kwanzaa), if not more. And Mexicans can say "I'm proud to be Mexican". All non-White races can observe their heritage, But we White people are attacked when we try to observe our heritage, being falsely accused of committing racism.
catman2287 5 days ago
@clevelandman2010
You do have your own months.
There called ~January,March,April,May,June,July,August,September,October,November & December.
1love
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farronx 4 days ago
@1my2
I had made my point & forgot about this vid. Until this other idiot here reminded me of this post. So I checked out your channel only to find typical white privileged Bs. Why am I not surprised?
Here's an idea;mind white business.
What do U care about the little bit that blacks have here?
Whites like U would be better served learning about why U are the way U are. Rather than caring about destroying our piece of mind in the U.S.
Tim Wise's vids on "white privilege" can help U w/ that
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farronx 5 days ago
@farronx Thanks for the reference to Tim Wise. I'd never heard of him, but I just watched one of his videos because of your suggestion. Good stuff!
Z200a 5 days ago
@Z200a
You bet;please pass it on.
farronx 4 days ago
Why would we study another nations history... at the time the Confederate states were another country no stupid....i live and va and this shits crazy
talkindurinthemovie 1 week ago
Pause at 1:35 and turn on captions and read.
00ipodboqi00 4 weeks ago
Considering its common knowledge that VA is the birthplace of legalized slavery (1661) I'd say its pretty much a given - not surprisingly.
MRrhythmsNflows 4 weeks ago
im from tennessee alot of racist here they love the idea of the south riseing again. i did study them the biggist answer id throw at them is general lee from virgina hated the south he wanted to go fight for the north but virgina was racist and he was loyal to his state
amnboss0 1 month ago
he probably is...i live in virginia and it sucks here :/
sHEbeLIvED1 1 month ago
Do you think the Gov. gives a rats behind what you think.
IMA60SKID 1 month ago
why would you want to remember that shit? they lost lol.
jampants09 1 month ago
I watched this with subtitles on and it said something about Russian nipples.
mschristinejm 1 month ago
well hes from virginia so most definately
Chrisindapurplehouse 1 month ago
The real question is Bob MacDonald out of his mind or a racist? In order to get any votes, the republican party became a rural, southern party for ignorant whites who were upset that they lost the civil rights era. This is driving them into a minority status, even with all the corporate money
w41duvernay 1 month ago
its virginia of course hes racist... second we deserve a white history month... dun dun duun dun dun duuun dun dund duun dun dund un dun
markycincy3 1 month ago
The Guy in this video should just SHUT THE F**K UP!!!!!!!!!!!
joetubealong 1 month ago
I want a White History Month!!!
joetubealong 1 month ago
@joetubealong We can, we conquered.
xxSakuraYuukixx 1 month ago
@joetubealong And the douche bag award goes to
Chrisindapurplehouse 1 month ago
Is Black History Month Un-Racist?
joetubealong 1 month ago
anti racist movement fuck the hate mongerers
MrPattypie69 1 month ago
i live in the greatest stae in the world, Virginia. and am so proud of being from here. but this video is made by a buncha liberal ass people. the CIVIL WAR WAS NOT BASED ON SLAVERY. IT WAS FOR STATES RIGHTS IN THE SOUTH. if any dumbass thinks the rebel flag stands for slavery.. your a fucking idiot. these liberal ass bastards need to get the hell outta my state and home.
bobbylfan47 1 month ago
@bobbylfan47 Actually, the greatest state is NY :P
ChooseANameNOW 1 month ago
@bobbylfan47 For a person from the South, from Virginia!, you know shockingly little about your own history. Not about slavery?!
Why don't you read Alexander Stephen's Cornerstone Speech? It's online. You can read the whole thing within the next ten minutes. If you actually want to know your history.
Why don't you read Lincoln's House Divided speech? It's online, too.
Or read Lincoln's 1st Inaugural Address -- or his 2nd Inaugural Address. Or read the state articles of secession.
Z200a 5 days ago
Delaware was a slave state, it was in the Union. Illinois forbid free blacks to live in the state. It was in the Union. The Civil War was not over racism. It was about state's rights, ignorant Turk.
olivelevel 1 month ago
i love pom thumbs up if u misspelt
royshona 1 month ago
I LOVE the captions 1:37
billytim7 1 month ago
shit........i live in virginia........
OOOHAI 1 month ago
What always gets me is people act as if the North had no slaves, are you kidding. Gen Grant or at lest his wife had slaves, she was hardly the only one. Also Gen. Lee didnt own slaves hisself, but his wife did and they were inherited. Mrs Robert E Lee was the great granddaughter of Martha Washington step great granddaughter of George Washington, So, it s not like any one was beter or nobler then the other
rockinrobintweets 2 months ago
either way you look at it, it all turns and looks at slavery
GiovanniDeFranko 2 months ago
if anyone actually studied the civil war, the confederates were the good guys. Sure, slavery was a bad thing, but we didnt split for that reason, we split because the union were making unfair laws that supported the industries of the north but interfered with the agriculture of the south. We fought for states rights. The union fought to take us back. But people assume that the confederate flag is a sign of racism when its really a sign of southern patrioism.
JellayToasT 2 months ago
Th Civil War has do more with American politics today than anything else.
RebelSoldat1 2 months ago
hey there whoever is on this video .. the president of the US during the Civil War was Republican .. this is not a Republican vs Democrat issue .. you need to learn more about history obviously .. stop posting videos on YouTube and do some research ....
MyTubeyou69 2 months ago
YES
WumboLovesHisCat 2 months ago
@Licentiathe8th fuck you aids bucket
tradedavid 2 months ago
It's vital to commemorate the thousands of confederate soldiers who died as pawns in a war that meant nothing to them, but that's it.
CssAfc 2 months ago
Before I even see the video - the answer to the title is yes.
FlareDraco 2 months ago
I'm white, live in Virginia, and YES Bob McDoNothing is a RACIST. Also, people who live in rural Virginia are RETARDED.
Licentiathe8th 3 months ago
Confederate flag: Heritage and pride, NOT hate.
Virginiaboy131 3 months ago
AND, according to PBS dot org "The federal government had a harder time deciding what to do about escaping slaves. Finally, on August 6, 1861, fugitive slaves were declared to be "contraband of war" if their labor had been used to aid the Confederacy in any way. And if found to be contraband, they were declared FREE."
So in effect, this ruling overrode the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850....how you like that now?
jusitke07 4 months ago
@jusitke07
Why do you keep talking about the war when I'm still talking about events BEFORE it? I've been talking about when the Underground Railroad helped escapees flee to Canada during its most prominent years (1850-1860). You didn't even answer my question about the Fugitive Slave Act but instead, like you've done many times before, you try to prove some other point.
jaranarm 4 months ago
@jaranarm Because the Civil War overrode the events before it. What happened during and after the war compared to events BEFORE the war are two different events. The Fugitive Slave Act which written in 1850 was null and void when President Lincoln took over in 1860, therefore any Slaves fleeing the South and into the North, where declared to be "contraband of war" (against Slavery), which means that some random Northerner can't return Slaves to the South because they were then free in the north
jusitke07 4 months ago
@jusitke07
I just don't understand why you're talking about the law when it no longer applied. I'm NOT talking about when the civil war overrode it. I'm talking about when it was still in effect and why it was the reason why Canada was the preferred destination of the escaped slaves. Isn't that what I've been telling you this whole damn time? Good Lord.
jaranarm 4 months ago
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@jaranarm No, the Fugitive Slave act was not active from when the Lincoln Admin. took over the United States, hence from radford dot edu which states
Lincoln wanted to end slavery and keep the Union together." It also states the cultural differences in that the North has freedom for Slaves, while the South depended on Slaves.
And from pbs dot org which states that any run away Slaves from the South and into the North are "Contrabands of War" against slavery therefore are FREE in the North.
jusitke07 4 months ago
AND, according to PBS dot org: The federal government had a harder time deciding what to do about escaping slaves. Finally, on August 6, 1861, fugitive slaves were declared to be "contraband of war" if their labor had been used to aid the Confederacy in any way. And if found to be contraband, they were declared FREE."
So in effect, this ruling overrode the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850....how you like that now?
jusitke07 4 months ago
What do you suppose would've happened to the freedoms of Blacks had the Confederates hypothetically won the Civil War? Answer: Blacks would still be slaves to this day. The Confederate flag is akin to the Nazi Flag....
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
Wrong. Had the Confederacy won the civil war they would have freed the slaves. It was planned in 1863 when Confederate diplomat Duncan F. Kenner gave the proposal to the Southern leaders and then to the European powers a year later. But the North won the war and now they receive all the credit for ending slavery.
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm So then why is it know that Blacks fleed the Confederate States to be free in the United States? Harriett Beecher Stowe wrote a book called, "Uncle Tom's Cabin" in which Blacks where secretly smuggled away from their slave masters in the Confederate States into freedom with the Abolitionists in the United States, which poses a lot of truth in that book. What's your opinion on that?
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
First off, Uncle Tom's Cabin was fiction. Second, Stowe wrote the novel based on slaves escaping from Kentucky, which wasn't a Confederate state. Lastly, slaves using the Underground Railroad wished to reach Canada, where real freedom was. Before the civil war it was illegal for blacks to stay in some Northern states for a certain number of days. States like Illinois and Indiana didn't allow blacks in their state at all while they lived in segregated degraded conditions in others.
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm Sure, many slaves fled the SOUTH and into some areas of Canada, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, , Massachussetts...mostly states in the NORTH. Kentucky was a slave state, so with that said, which side had the most slave states? Hint: Most Abolitonists where located in the North, and the Slave holders where in the South.
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
Of course most slave states were in the South. Most in the North abolished slavery for practical reasons such as climate and industrialization. Abolitionists existed in the South as well, especially those who participated in the Underground Railroad. Just because a state permitted slavery didn't mean all whites were pro-slavery and all blacks were enslaved. The average Southerner didn't own a slave. Before the war half a million free blacks were part of the South's population.
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jusitke07
Of course most slave states were in the South. Most in the North abolished slavery for practical reasons such as climate and industrialization. Abolitionists existed in the South as well, especially those who participated in the Underground Railroad. Just because a state permitted slavery didn't mean all whites were pro-slavery and all blacks were enslaved. The average Southerner didn't own a slave. Before the war half a million free blacks were part of the South's population.
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm said, "Of course most slave states were in the South."
...Thank you for agreeing with me :)
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
When did I say they weren't? You basically said they were fleeing the slave states to be in the free states in the U.S., which is technically incorrect considering their real destination was Canada.
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm Oh really? You don't think Pennsylvania, Massachussetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire, New Yortk, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Ohio weren't free states?
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
Escaped slaves were not "free" in any of those states or anywhere else in America due to the fugitive slave clauses, not unless they were officially freed by their masters. They were protected if they went to Canada under its laws. You need to do more reading.
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm I did my historical research, and you're flat out lying. These states were free. Everybody in the US, and in the world knows this fact. Get over it. And now I suppose you're going to tell me that all teh Abolitionists were all in Canada, right?
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
Wrong. If you were a slave who escaped into a free state it did not mean you were free all of a sudden, you were considered a fugitive who needed to be returned to his master in the slave state he came from. If you were a freed black then there was no problem. When a state is considered free it just means slavery is illegal there, it didn't mean any slave who touched free soil was automatically a free man. However, if they reached Canada none of these laws will apply.
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm Oh please, go ahead and type in google search engine "AMERICAN CIVIL WAR FREE STATES" and click on images, and take a good look. Pennsylvania, Massachussetts, Connecticut, New Hampshire, New Yortk, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Ohio are all free states, as taught in the US History academics across the nation and the world. Even Smithsonian Museum teaches this. Trust me you're self-brainwashed twisted history is futile.
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
You obviously didn't read a single word I told you. Being an escaped slave in a free state was not the same as being a free black in a free state. I guess you never heard of the Fugitive Slave Act of 1793 or the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. Such laws were the reason why abolitionists all over the country were helping these people escape into Canada. You're doing the past a great disservice with your ignorance of history.
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm Ignorance? Did you even look at the US Map of which are the free slates and the slave states? Guess who's ignorant. PLUS, The 13th amendment was passed at the end of the Civil War when the Union Army defeated the Confederate Army in 1865 thus forcing the Southern states to free their slaves. But then came the Jim Crow laws in the South...hatred never ends in the south does it?
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
How am I being ignorant? It was made federal law for runaway slaves to be returned to their masters. It's in the Fugitive Slave Act passed by Congress, go read it. Why else would they need to go to Canada? Escaped slaves weren't safe anywhere in America. And why are you talking about the end of the war all of a sudden? I'm still talking about before the war. I'm giving you facts of history here yet you respond to me that way.
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm said, "It (13th Amendment aboloshing Slavery) was made federal law for runaway slaves to be returned to their masters..."
Oh...my...God. I've seen folks trying to twist history to their personal idea, but this just takes the cake.
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
The 13th amendment wasn't adopted until 1865. The Fugitive Slave Acts were passed in 1793 and 1850. Have you seriously lost all forms of reason and resorted to ad hominem attacks to prove a point?
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm according to ourdocuments dot gov: The 13th amendment, which formally ABOLISHED slavery in the United States, passed the Senate on April 8, 1864, and the House on January 31, 1865. On February 1, 1865. "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
Now define the word, ABOLISH....or do you want me to do that for you?
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
What does the 13th amendment have to do with what I've been talking about? I'm saying the Underground Railroad went up to Canada because escaped slaves weren't safe in the United States due to the Fugitive Slave Acts. Obviously this wouldn't apply after 1865 because slavery was then abolished, meaning all federal laws pertaining to slavery were dissolved. Seriously, you couldn't piece that one together?
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm Okay so according to National Geograhic, and the autobiographies of both Harriett Tubman and Frederick Douglass, many slaves did in fact escape from the SOUTH (emphasized) and onto Canada, AND to the northern states too. Or do you actually think that ALL the slaves escaped to Canada and none to any of the Northern states...what say you?
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
Harriet Tubman was helping slaves escape into the free states in 1849 (the year she escaped) before the Fugitive Slave Act was put into federal law by Congress in 1850 that strengthened the former bill, which was really when the Railroad took off. Escaped slaves had to go to Canada from that point. There's a reason why I kept emphasizing the years these laws were enacted. Even Nat Geo's website describes Tubman showing others "how to follow the North Star to freedom in Canada".
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm Tell me where Harriet Tubman died and buried at? Canada or the US? Pick one. And when you're done with that tell me where Frederick Douglass live, died and buried at? US or Canada? Pick one again. Your answer will then prove my point....
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
Tubman risked her life staying behind to help others to freedom. It wasn't uncommon for both escaped slaves and freedmen to do that because they needed conductors to aid the escapees. Douglass removed his slave status using forged papers after his wife helped him escape, something not many could get away with. If not for that he'd be sent back to his master because of the law. All your questions can be answered with facts and reason. What point were you trying to make anyway?
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm You didn't answer the question directly. Here I'll answer it for you. Both Harriett Tubman and Frederick Douglass were buried in the US of A, particularly in the Union area of the US of A ;)
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
Okay, so what? I just told you why they didn't go to Canada. They stayed in the U.S. for their own reasons. What exactly are you trying to prove?
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm If you think that the Harriett Tubman and/or Frederick Douglass hated the Union area, then why do you suppose they didn't they spent the rest of their lives in Canada? Maybe perhaps there were more Free States in the North of the US of A....hmmmmm
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
Since when did I say they hated the Union? Putting words in my mouth now? Tubman didn't leave because she was secretly aiding escaped slaves along the railroad. Douglass didn't leave because he became a free man by way of forging his identification papers and was able to conduct abolition activities in the country. For someone who has never heard of the Fugitive Slave Act or any ounce of history I'm not surprised you're also poor at comprehension.
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm You were certainly implying that Harriett Tubman and the other Abolitionists avoided bringing Slaves from the South into the North because the Union are more dangerous than the Cofederates. If that was the case, then Harriett Tubman, Frederick Douglass, and the rest of the Abolitionists should've lived the rest of their lives and therefore buried in Canada. But the fact that they preferred to live their lives in the Union areas instead of the Confederate South area, proves my point
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jaranarm You were certainly implying that Harriett Tubman and the other Abolitionists avoided bringing Slaves from the South into the North because the Union are more dangerous than the Cofederates. If that was the case, then Harriett Tubman, Frederick Douglass, and the rest of the Abolitionists should've lived the rest of their lives and therefore buried in Canada, right? So again why do you suppose Harriett Tubman preferred to live and die in the North rather than Canada?
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
Where was I implying that? Harriet Tubman was a conductor of the Underground Railroad, whose stations were throughout the U.S. so why would she be in Canada? The Underground Railroad didn't run in Canada. Frederick Douglass became a free man and used his free status to advocate against slavery in the U.S. What is so difficult to understand here? So not only are you poor at comprehension you are also poor at analysis.
jaranarm 5 months ago
@jaranarm What? Are you for real? Why don't you take a look back at all what you said about the Northern States being dangerous for run away Slaves from the south, that they fled to Canada instead. And I said that if that were the case, then history would dictate that Harriett Tubman, Frederick Douglas, and Abolitionists brought ALL the Freed Slaves into Canada they all lived, died, and buried there....IN CANADA. But you and I and everybody else knows that's not true, so quit making up shit
jusitke07 5 months ago
@jusitke07
I'm not making up anything. While escaping into another state was good for getting away from your master, it's still a risk because you weren't safe from the law. If you were a slave from Delaware who escaped into Pennsylvania and you were caught by officials (and your papers showed you're a slave) then you were sent back to your master in Delaware. This was federal law, go look it up. The only way to be 100% free of that law was to go to Canada. Get that through your thick skull.
jaranarm 4 months ago
@jaranarm Besides Canada, go ahead and Look up "Civil War Free States" in your search engine and get back to me on what States did Blacks fled to from the south to be free. Name those states.
jusitke07 4 months ago
@jusitke07
No, go look up Fugitive Slave Act in your search engine and tell me what it says.
jaranarm 4 months ago
@jaranarm According to radford dot edu: "A civil war is a war between different groups of people who belong to the same country. The American Civil War was fought between the North (Union states) and the South (Confederate states). It lasted from 1861-1865, triggered by the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860. Lincoln wanted to end slavery and keep the Union together." It also states the cultural differences in that the North has freedom for Slaves, while the South depended on Slaves
jusitke07 4 months ago
@jaranarm the state of texas officially declared, in writing: "Texas ...was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in ALL FUTURE TIME."
payasoinfeliz 2 months ago
@payasoinfeliz
Nothing is written in stone, stupid. The states of Illinois and Indiana once barred blacks from even entering their state on the issue of color for all time at one point. What are you trying to say? The majority of the white race didn't have blacks serving them, and it certainly doesn't count for the free blacks who lived in the slave states either.
jaranarm 2 months ago
@jaranarm youre an idiot. "Had the Confederacy won the civil war they would have freed the slaves." completely false. the whole reason they fought the war was to preserve the institution of slavery--the states of the confederacy made written declarations explicitly stating this.
payasoinfeliz 2 months ago
@payasoinfeliz
You don't know your history. At first the Union wanted to bring the South back while promising to keep slavery, but the South wanted to leave to preserve it on their own. Halfway into the war the goals of both sides changed to freeing the slaves. When the South was winning Lincoln gave the Emancipation Proclamation. Then the North started winning so Confederate diplomat Duncan F. Kenner told Jefferson Davis to free the slaves to save the Confederacy and he agreed.
jaranarm 2 months ago
@jaranarm hi, retard. im not talking about what historians say. im talking about written declarations the states made themselves, citing slavery is the reason for seceding.
payasoinfeliz 2 months ago
@payasoinfeliz
Yes that's what they had written, but I like I said nothing is written in stone, dumbass. Look what happened after the war started. Just because it's written down doesn't mean it's going to be that way forever and ever.
jaranarm 2 months ago
@jaranarm people write on paper... not on stone. the war would not have started if it werent for the states seceding to preserve slavery. and the states declared the preservation of slavery as their reason for seceding; no matter how many red herrings you come up with, nothing will ever, ever change that fact--it will never change. get over it.
payasoinfeliz 2 months ago
@payasoinfeliz
Okay so if they wanted to secede for some other reason then you'd be okay with it. Fact is it didn't matter what reason they were going to secede for. Washington was not going to let half the country leave.
jaranarm 2 months ago
@jaranarm if it were not a fact that they wanted to secede to preserve the institution of slavery--again, which it was--and instead... they wanted to secede to preserve democracy, or the planet... yeah, i think id be more sympathetic to the secessionist states.
payasoinfeliz 2 months ago
@payasoinfeliz
I don't think it would have mattered though. Lincoln's goal back then was to preserve the union and was willing to bring back the seceding states by whatever force was necessary. I don't why this is continued to be called a civil war when it technically wasn't.
jaranarm 2 months ago
@jaranarm youre perpetually trying to change the subject. it doesnt matter if lincoln wanted to preserve the union to save money on car insurance; the confederate states still seceded to preserve negro slavery--that will forever be the case.
payasoinfeliz 2 months ago
@payasoinfeliz
But why is the fact they seceded to preserve the institution bother you so much, when Washington was trying to preserve it to keep the union together? Both sides were trying to preserve slavery for their own end goals.
jaranarm 2 months ago
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@jaranarm it doesnt. im stating a fact which contradicts your claim that "Had the Confederacy won the civil war they would have freed the slaves." the confederate states explicitly cited the preservation of slavery as their reason for seceding. that fact is never going away, no matter how hard you try to direct attention away from it.
payasoinfeliz 2 months ago
@payasoinfeliz
The declarations of secession were made with the slaveowners in mind because they were the rich minority that ruled the South and were the ones most affected by Washington's policies. They don't, however, talk about the Southern commoners who had no dealings with the institution. To think that all Southerners who supported the Confederacy agreed with the slaveowners is ludicrous. They too were being economically affected.
jaranarm 2 months ago
@jaranarm you are so desperate to distract from the fact that the states seceded to preserve the institution of negro slavery. lol, maybe next time i hear someone bash germany for ww2 and acts leading up to it, i can try and redirect them to how not all civilians/soldiers hated jews in nazi germany.
payasoinfeliz 2 months ago
@payasoinfeliz
So what? Washington was planning to preserve slavery for all time with the Corwin Amendment and the South still left. And sorry to break this to you but Jews did serve in some of Hitler's highest ranks in the Nazi Party. Go read a book.
jaranarm 2 months ago
@payasoinfeliz Some Southerners freed thier slaves in thier wills if not in person, it s not a one size fits all isuse. No not all Slave owners did but more then a couple. Mrs Robert E Lee freed her slaves no latter then 1862 in accordance to her fathers will. Slavery was largely dying out any way if the Union hadnt been so SELF RIGHIOUS..as if there were no slave in the North, gaggggggggggg. I as a 21 Centry woman think slavery is wrong but I wasnt liveing in that time and place
rockinrobintweets 2 months ago
@rockinrobintweets that has no bearing on why the states seceded. they cited slavery as the reason in their official written declarations.
payasoinfeliz 2 months ago
The Confederacy seceded for the sole purpose of retaining slaves. I can think of a few things America could learn from it, but certainly nothing positive.
Fatcatnevercameback 5 months ago
Geez. The south lost. Get. Over. It.
urkelette 5 months ago
@urkelette south lost but did not die. get over that
wil777RedneckJuggalo 5 months ago
@wil777RedneckJuggalo Nah...its dead.
urkelette 5 months ago
@urkelette well if its dead then why are we having this convo. go ahead and keep thinking its dead makes no difference. just show how ignorant your mind is ON this. no here to insult just to point out facts. Not saying were perfect just saying we did loose...yes we did. but i wouldn't be typing this if we were dead.
wil777RedneckJuggalo 5 months ago
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urkelette 5 months ago
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@wil777RedneckJuggalo People with all this 'Southern pride' crap are more annoying than foreigners coming over here bragging about how great their home country is. If its that great, go back. Difference is these rednecks don't have anywhere to go back to because...oh yeah...you lost the war.
urkelette 5 months ago
NO, they just have a regional identy.
Problem is they use flag of the sedtionious, treasonous confederacy and racist red necks!
PacificCircle1 6 months ago
fuckin liberal bitch
MCMicklem2 6 months ago
@MCMicklem2 Yeah a cheer for white trash red necks, yee haw!
PacificCircle1 6 months ago
SOUTHSIDEEEE BAP BAP BAP
watchmyywhipp 6 months ago
Ok so what your saying is that we shouldn't remember the confederacy? so what your saying is having a black history month is ok? first off, half the blacks in america arent even from africa, they cant even trace their roots there. second who is this dumbass to say that we shouldnt remember the confederacy. there are plenty of blacks who are proud southerners. only about 1 percent of all southerners owned slaves an they were the rich white plantation owners. so try again.
Happysoutherner 6 months ago
@TennesseeReb1862
Ummm, retardo, yes the Civil War was fought to preserve the Union? Why did the Union fall apart?
Because slavery was being banned in the western states. People who say it was not about slavery have their heads up their ass. Of course it was about slavery. It was all about slavery.
rubberbaby00 7 months ago
@rubberbaby00 There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil. - Robert E. Lee
patton890 6 months ago
TYT are a bunch of racists for putting down us southerners.
redneckmarine87 7 months ago
fuck obama...SOUTH all the way and who gives a shit is she is rasict...we all have opinions... stop complaining about how your ancestors were slaves stupid spooks.
RebelxXxChick 8 months ago
the north had fuckin slavery dumbass the South only made up 34% of the u.s. but paid 80% of taxes many blacks fought willing for the Confederacy look up H.K. Edgerton asshole. Since the north had slavery then u should consider the american fag flag racist to. BITCHY YANKEE
nikesk8er10 8 months ago
wE WOULD BE A LOT BETTER OFF IF WE WERE STILL SECEDED. OUR GOVERNMENT IS CONTROLLED BY THE ILLUMINATI. Fuck the north the South is the best
nikesk8er10 8 months ago
The glorious South split because taxation without representation. at least the southern slaves didnt die we had em took care of fed got to celebrate their birthdays even the whites would go down and work with em. In the north they were sexually abused beaten and got lung cancer for working in smoke filled factories.DUMBASS
nikesk8er10 8 months ago
poeple like this guy need to be put on a rocket and blasted to the fuckin moon
joefuss190 8 months ago
This news dude is a moron
rebelgabriel4308 8 months ago
@PipeIncognito
that sounds like an oxymoron to me
TheAtheistTaco 8 months ago
@PipeIncignito
that's sounds like an oxymoron
TheAtheistTaco 8 months ago
If the speaker here had ever actually studied history instead of repeating the sensationalised mass media agenda, he would know that the civil war and its split was due to the arguement over STATES RIGHTS to determin the governing of their own land and people. This CAN in fact be directly related to issuses today (i.e. the debate over national health care vs. states laws). Slavery was not an issue in the civil war untill lincoln needed a peice of propaganda to win the war.
michael777evans 8 months ago
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shut up liberal. Im a proud black confederate.
PipeIncognito 8 months ago
Im an American Indian (Chippewa, a branch off of Ojibwe) with membership in the Bad River Reservation near Odanah Wisconsin, though I live in Williamsburg Virginia. Me and my family have lived in The Old Dominion State for generations. I had family fight for the Confederacy during the war and Im damn proud of that. This is our state's and my family's history and when we try to remember that we are accused of racism? Bastards, I'll be damned if I ever quit believing in the glory of the south!
RevBillyRayCollins 9 months ago
this guy doesn't know his history..does he?
ranbrent 9 months ago
@TennesseeReb1862 the union only pay their black soldier $10.00 a month and didn't want them fighting with the white soldiers that got $30.00 a month but the south had 200,000 blacks that fought for south and payed them $30.00 a month just as they did the white soldiers and they fought side by side.
stronghorse1000 9 months ago
@TennesseeReb1862 it is about time that someone came along that knows what happen in that war, they don't tell you that only 4 % of the south was rich enough to own slaves. if it was over slavery then why did the other 96% fight for? for all you union lover out there, maryland ,kentucky. missouri didn,t set there slaves free till 1868 cause the north said they was border states and didn't have to set them free in 1865. and as for H.K. Edgerton i would love shake hands with the man.
stronghorse1000 9 months ago
Hmm... let's see. Roughly 6% (if not less) of Virginians had slaves. So what were the other 94% fighting for? this resolution isn't to praise slavery, it's to remember what happened, and appreciate and learn from our history as a nation. If you would lay down your hate crusade for a moment you might see that.
eattherich588 10 months ago
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eattherich588 10 months ago
Most slave states left the union because they were afraid without continually adding new slave states slavery would be doomed in the USA.
Lincoln ran for president saying he didn't want to expand slavery into the territories (meaning no new slavery).
Many slave states started the Civil War because their plantation owning powerbrokers didn't like that.
That gave Lincoln the chance to change his message from no new slavery to no more slavery in rebelling (Confederate) states.
pplr1 10 months ago
im a virginia..fuck confederate history month..
Boogathegreat 10 months ago
if you had history in high school and in college you learnd that Lincoln was not trying really free the blacks. he was going to send tham back over seas to africa
dusty1088 10 months ago
I'm Native American and I think that Confederate History Month is important in Virginia because many students are ill-informed about the Confederacy. I could go on for days about how Virginia screwed my people but that's why we have Native American History Month. It's not a month celebrating the Confederacy and what it stood for, but it is to inform others about why Virginia seceded and what actually happened during the Civil War in a historical context.
AdventOctober 10 months ago
@TennesseeReb1862 You know your history my friend. tomitstube wouldn't know a fact if it bit his butt. Mr Lincoln wanted to preserve the Union most of all. The North won because they had more money. They could also be against slavery, because they had no slaves. If the North had had slaves in the mid 1800s, then slavery would not have been abolished at that time. Also everyone knows that the South had the greatest military minds of that time period.
bubbiz99 11 months ago
@bubbiz99 If i remember correctly there were a few union states that kept slavery even after the emancipation proclomation. Does a "righteous" government fighting to free people sound more like the U.S. government or a slave holding nation attacking another slave bearing nation while claiming it's all to free the slaves sound more like it? Personally, the latter one sounds more like the great and noble union to me.
colosusjokers 10 months ago
@colosusjokers Agreed
bubbiz99 10 months ago
@bubbiz99 if Lee would have listened to Longstreet at Gettyburg the war would have been over early. they had the union on the run. and from there D.C. would have been next.
stronghorse1000 9 months ago
@XxxEmoGamerxxX Do you even watch the news or read a paper?
MrGOPERA 11 months ago
well the confederate flag was never racist in its self but yes the conferates where wrong but the flag its self was a sign of rebellion against the union and i understand that some people dont like that part of our history but its out history we cant bury it or we face it sooner or later and if u really look at it its made us the country we are today so we should look at it as if it is a scar on our bodies it wont fade but it should have healed
TrollinMenace513 11 months ago
...but can't we all just agree that "Rebs" & Confeder-idiots are all just butt hurt losers? And inbreeds too? And *their* "flag" (as opposed 2 the REAL Stars & Stripes) is a symbol of losers? Can't we all just agree on those simple facts?
lancasterKENT 1 year ago
@lancasterKENT the only loser i see is you. The stars & strips is high in my book because my son is a U.S. MARINE. but the stars & bars is close to my heart!!!
stronghorse1000 9 months ago
U guys still arguing about this ish? COME ON! Everyone knows the Confeder-idiots lost. Big Time! They're losers! That's what they do. That's what their loser "flag" stands 4... Losers. Heh. They're a joke. ...bcz they, um, lost. Just ignore them. As long as they've got sisters, moms & daughters they'll... well, u know. Inbreds. Just Sayin' Now excuse me while I go & crap on my confederate "flag" toilet paper.
lancasterKENT 1 year ago
@TennesseeReb1862 ~ you literally have no idea what you're talking about. i don't have time to argue with an ignorant racist apologist who just invents history because he can't come to terms with the truth.
tomitstube 1 year ago
@TennesseeReb1862 ~ stop pretending to be neutral, your identity blatantly screams what your biased racist agenda is. i know what speech you're talking about, it was while running for senator and yes lincoln does try to straddle the line for votes, but ultimately says he's for abolition and equal rights. you rednecks always point to that, and the one in the white house after being frustrated during the war. but the truth is, lincoln was always for ending slavery and actually did it.
tomitstube 1 year ago
@TennesseeReb1862 ~ so spare me with your fake b.s. about being fair and open minded. lincoln emancipated black slaves, he also got the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments passed. so if lincoln didn't do all these things why was he assassinated by a disgruntled rebel? .
the only thing you know about history is the southern apologist b.s. you make up. you lost, it was about slavery, the south was racist, and that's what the confederate flag stands for. racism.
tomitstube 1 year ago
@tomitstube you know it's people like you that makes the stars and bars battle flag stand for racism, the confederate flag is a white flag with the stars and bars in the upper left corner. to tell you all i am 1/4 Cherokee and the Cherokee fought for that flag, it was the union in 1838 that removed the Cherokee, Choctaw and the Creek from there land and made them walk the trail of tears! so who's side do you think i'll go with and it's not the union.
stronghorse1000 9 months ago
@stronghorse1000 ~ lol, another redneck who claims indian blood. what is up with that anyway? can you say andrew jackson? the trail of tears? you're a redneck who believes pseudo history by the klan.
tomitstube 9 months ago
@tomitstube you are a jerk!!!!! you are like all whites that thinks they are better than ever body else. who is probity part Mexican, and thats is lower than a redneck. I'm 25% part Cherokee and no buts about it' my grandmother was a full blood Cherokee. Andrew Jackson took the land from the Cherokee, the Creek, the Choctaw put them on the trail of tears to Oklahoma so he could give the land to the white man, just as they did with all my native brothers land in the west.
stronghorse1000 9 months ago
@tomitstube i have no use for the klan, but it sounds like you are one of them, and don't call me any of your family names. you know it sounds like my dog has more sense than you. and LONG LIVE THE SOUTH!!!!!!!!
stronghorse1000 9 months ago
@stronghorse1000 ~ "who is (sic) probity part mexican, and (sic) thats is lower than a redneck".
you're full of shit redneck.
tomitstube 9 months ago
@tomitstube LMAO! If I got a nickel every time a redneck told me he was part Cherokee, I'd be a rich man!
Keepsu 9 months ago
@Keepsu ~ it's true, i've heard so many rednecks tell me their part native american i just laugh at them anymore.
tomitstube 9 months ago
@Keepsu most rednecks do have cherokee blood how else would they have red necks lol
stevemtc1 8 months ago