@dowdmail Yes I am aware of Aindra Prabhu.. He was calling for people to get back to the essence.. the Prema Sankirtan.. and he mysteriously died from some freak gas explosion.. I will look up what else he was saying bout fiskcon..
The only things that is being exposed here is how unabsorbed you are in your own devotional service. How much hypocrisy is there in your own life ? Yes, no one likes hypocrites, but no one likes somone who is absorbed in negativity. ISKCON is Prabhupada's body. Who the hell do you think you are ? How many books have you distributed ? How many pots have you washed ? How many years of service have you done ? Become a leader ! WIth or without a title. Become the change you wnat to see.
"Yet another ISKCON GBC has been exposed .. what lessons can be learned from this ?" We can learn that there will always be envious people who jump at the opportunity to focus on the faults of others. Yes, shame on the fly like mentality that revels in others short-comings. Have you made a video showing his years and years of service building up the Nepali and Bangladesh yatras ? You are shameful for denouncing others. Prabhupada condemned TKG for pointing out the fall of Madhudviasa Swami
Actually they were not Following Srila Prabhupadas instructions perfectly.. Srila Prabhupada did nopt appoint anyone to become acarya Guru (SEE FINAL ORDER), nor de he sanction any kind of deviant sexual or immoral behaviour or cheating.
Yes dare you even say it prabhu " This violent oppressive dogma that is spewing out of Prabhupadas books"......Please show me In His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupadas books where he is says a guru should become a lusty pervert or sexual deviant, or child molestor, or cheater.. You are wrong and offensive to blame the fall down of these cheating Gurus who absolutely do not follow Srila Prabhupada in any way on the His Divine Grace or His Divine Grace 's pure teachings..
These kali-chela pretender "gurus" are NOT following Prabhupada's instructions. Why are you suggesting that the reason they are deviants is because they have subjected themselves to the "violent, oppressive dogma spewing from Prabhupada's books"? That seems very offensive to Srila Prabhupada.
@notthebody OH RLY? I think they were following his instructions perfectly.. only the reality is not encompassed entirely by one man's vision of what it AUGHT to be..
not trying to be a apologist or iskon spokesman "but" instead of kicking a Prabhu when he's down now is a time when we should pray for him,acknowledge the service he's rendered to Guru and Guarunga, and forgive his transgressions.Spend the energy we would use critiquing his "fall' and look at OURSELVES and correct our faults. Not that he should remain a authority or anything else or that iskon is not in deep trouble. Its that we are in NO position too judge another and risk offending KRSNA's son
@TheManolakis Kicking a master when he's down? Err.. well.. for starters he's no master.. secondly.. we should show this kind of politeness respect and forgiveness to everybody, not just pseudo-cult leaders.. Thirdly, I'm not judging the guy, I swear if you watch the vid at no point did I directly insult this person, if I did that is my mistake, the entire point of this video and my others like it is merely to preach against ISKCON style Vaishnavism and how WRONG it is.
TOO BAD HE DIDNT HAVE ANY QUALIFIED STUDENTS THAT WERE QUALIFIED TO MAKE THE SACRIFICE. IF HE DID THEN HE WOULD NOT HAVE TO HIRE A PROSTITUTE. SO ACTUALLY ITS HIS STUDENTS FAULT FOR NOT BEING ADVANCED ENOUGH OF MAKING THE SPIRITUAL SACRIFICE OR FULLY SURRENDERING THEMSELVES.
One cannot force oneself to be celibate. One cannot control the sexual energy. One has to integrate sexual Lust and not repress it. A book which helped me to understand this is "emotional clearing" by John Ruskan. Highly recommended.
Many have controlled their sexual energy, like Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and Ramakrishna (who was also into Bhakti for a while).
White Tantra that is. Most tantra is black, people take a part of the truth, flip it upside, invent the rest, and create a dumb cult which is full of useless fornication.
@EvenStar303 Yes I agree 100%, and the realization effects Laya - absorption.. so I also recommend that one understand the principles of Laya Yoga.. very powerful stuff! With absorption of all of the energies into the pure Brahma at this level.. you are free of all taint!
Thank you for this video. You are asking some interesting questions. And leaving a few more unasked.
You have said in the past that the only true initiation is through guru (If i am misquoting or missing your earlier points please correct me) If guru turns out to be corrupt (as so many do) where do you go? How do you know a true guru?
These questions are not intended as a challenge. (Definitely not in any offensive way). These are questions I have explored (am exploring in my own life). I have a lot of respect for both you and your path and am curious what your answers may be at this point
This is why I'm into the Left-Hand Path: "I knew then that the Christian church thrives on hypocrisy, and that man's carnal nature will out no matter how much it is purged or scoured by any white-light religion." -Anton Szandor LaVey
@ShaktipatSeer2 Well, LaVey was just one person in the Left-Hand Path (albeit a very influential one). To me, a good starting point is in order. The whole RHP/LHP are really two ways of reaching the same conclusion. RHP adheres to tradition and codes while LHP breaks them. Both paths lead to enlightenment.
With the exception of the fundamentalist religions such as christianity or islam, you won't find me bashing "white-light" religions as much.
@DarkF00L I beg to differ.. LHP people only think that their path is equal to RHP.. but in reality the way they have to try to justify it shows that in their hearts they know that this is just a childish endeavor and they are not equal at all.. RHP leads to the realm of "Vaikuntha" the Kingdom of Heaven, LHP does not.. Because one must surrender one's self in love and service to enter that realm.. Enlightenment is not what the LHP's think it is..
@ShaktipatSeer2 You raise a very interesting point my friend. If you noticed, I posted a comment on your channel with the number 93. 93 is actually a reference to Thelema's law "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is the law, love under will." Will/Love. I believe that love is important, however, I don't believe in spreading it so thin or so "universal".
@DarkF00L You lost me at "however" ... =] .. love is something simple even a small child understands it.. it is universal to them.. there is no small innocent child which equates love to eating corpses like LHP Yogis in India or having bizarre sex orgies in the name of some distorted view of spiritualism.. It's very simple.. simple for the simple complicated for the complicated..
@ShaktipatSeer2 lol. Life is both simple and complicated (or complex). True, a child understands love, however (stay with me now!), a child does not understand how ferocious and terrifying the world can be. This is where love evolves into something more complicated for the sake of survival. Love and innocence are beautiful, but so too strength and courage (even if it means breaking through disgusting taboos).
I disagree with you, but I have high respect for you my friend. 93.
Another one bites the dust . They won't allow Pure Devotees to come and preach in ISKCON , so without guidance and association from Pure Devotees , these kanishta gurus will continue to fall
ISKCON is a joke - the GBC is the root cause of the joke. The movement was tainted from early beginnings. Most educated spiritual seekers are hip to the con (CASHCON). Prabhupad came to the west for westerners - today one can hardly find a westerner in any of the US ISKCON temples (mostly Indian transplants attend.) They continue to rip off unassuming uneducated Indians - and a large Russian demographic (don't understand that.) Stay away from ISKCON - you've been warned! Read: Monkey On A Stick
Hey Saktipatseer: I was doing a little bit of research -- you might want to check out this guy:
Aindra Prabhu; perhaps you have heard of him. A lot of what he was saying re: ISKCON makes a lot of sense.
dowdmail 5 days ago
@dowdmail Yes I am aware of Aindra Prabhu.. He was calling for people to get back to the essence.. the Prema Sankirtan.. and he mysteriously died from some freak gas explosion.. I will look up what else he was saying bout fiskcon..
ShaktipatSeer2 4 days ago
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The only things that is being exposed here is how unabsorbed you are in your own devotional service. How much hypocrisy is there in your own life ? Yes, no one likes hypocrites, but no one likes somone who is absorbed in negativity. ISKCON is Prabhupada's body. Who the hell do you think you are ? How many books have you distributed ? How many pots have you washed ? How many years of service have you done ? Become a leader ! WIth or without a title. Become the change you wnat to see.
Gauraonline 2 weeks ago
"Yet another ISKCON GBC has been exposed .. what lessons can be learned from this ?" We can learn that there will always be envious people who jump at the opportunity to focus on the faults of others. Yes, shame on the fly like mentality that revels in others short-comings. Have you made a video showing his years and years of service building up the Nepali and Bangladesh yatras ? You are shameful for denouncing others. Prabhupada condemned TKG for pointing out the fall of Madhudviasa Swami
Gauraonline 2 weeks ago
Actually they were not Following Srila Prabhupadas instructions perfectly.. Srila Prabhupada did nopt appoint anyone to become acarya Guru (SEE FINAL ORDER), nor de he sanction any kind of deviant sexual or immoral behaviour or cheating.
govindadasa 3 weeks ago
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Yes dare you even say it prabhu " This violent oppressive dogma that is spewing out of Prabhupadas books"......Please show me In His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupadas books where he is says a guru should become a lusty pervert or sexual deviant, or child molestor, or cheater.. You are wrong and offensive to blame the fall down of these cheating Gurus who absolutely do not follow Srila Prabhupada in any way on the His Divine Grace or His Divine Grace 's pure teachings..
govindadasa 3 weeks ago
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govindadasa 3 weeks ago
These kali-chela pretender "gurus" are NOT following Prabhupada's instructions. Why are you suggesting that the reason they are deviants is because they have subjected themselves to the "violent, oppressive dogma spewing from Prabhupada's books"? That seems very offensive to Srila Prabhupada.
notthebody 1 month ago
@notthebody OH RLY? I think they were following his instructions perfectly.. only the reality is not encompassed entirely by one man's vision of what it AUGHT to be..
ShaktipatSeer2 3 weeks ago
not trying to be a apologist or iskon spokesman "but" instead of kicking a Prabhu when he's down now is a time when we should pray for him,acknowledge the service he's rendered to Guru and Guarunga, and forgive his transgressions.Spend the energy we would use critiquing his "fall' and look at OURSELVES and correct our faults. Not that he should remain a authority or anything else or that iskon is not in deep trouble. Its that we are in NO position too judge another and risk offending KRSNA's son
TheManolakis 1 month ago 2
@TheManolakis Kicking a master when he's down? Err.. well.. for starters he's no master.. secondly.. we should show this kind of politeness respect and forgiveness to everybody, not just pseudo-cult leaders.. Thirdly, I'm not judging the guy, I swear if you watch the vid at no point did I directly insult this person, if I did that is my mistake, the entire point of this video and my others like it is merely to preach against ISKCON style Vaishnavism and how WRONG it is.
ShaktipatSeer2 1 month ago
Fallen gurus? You cant't fall from an already fallen position. Thats what happing with these so called "ISKCON" gurus.
bhaktamichaelgarner1 1 month ago
TOO BAD HE DIDNT HAVE ANY QUALIFIED STUDENTS THAT WERE QUALIFIED TO MAKE THE SACRIFICE. IF HE DID THEN HE WOULD NOT HAVE TO HIRE A PROSTITUTE. SO ACTUALLY ITS HIS STUDENTS FAULT FOR NOT BEING ADVANCED ENOUGH OF MAKING THE SPIRITUAL SACRIFICE OR FULLY SURRENDERING THEMSELVES.
tenthousandyearsgoon 1 month ago
@tenthousandyearsgoon LOL LIONTOLOGY!!
tenthousandyearsgoon 1 month ago
Brilliant video.
vivianchinnayya 1 month ago
@vivianchinnayya TY!
ShaktipatSeer2 1 month ago
One cannot force oneself to be celibate. One cannot control the sexual energy. One has to integrate sexual Lust and not repress it. A book which helped me to understand this is "emotional clearing" by John Ruskan. Highly recommended.
nycballer4life 1 month ago
@nycballer4life
Many have controlled their sexual energy, like Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and Ramakrishna (who was also into Bhakti for a while).
White Tantra that is. Most tantra is black, people take a part of the truth, flip it upside, invent the rest, and create a dumb cult which is full of useless fornication.
EsuDalyvis 1 month ago
Whatever you may think of me, I love your videos, because your heart is in the right place.
Namaste!
EvenStar303 1 month ago
Shaktipat you are totally right, we should not pretend to have reached what we haven't.
But in my realization it is not that WE have to become celibate or compassionate or good hearted.
We already are.
We have only to REALIZE that, SELF has no sexual desires or any other desires.
It is the body and the mind that has all these ailments.
And WE are not that.
We have to separate the pure consciousness from the body and mind.
The only problem is the miss-identification of SELF.
EvenStar303 1 month ago 2
@EvenStar303 Yes I agree 100%, and the realization effects Laya - absorption.. so I also recommend that one understand the principles of Laya Yoga.. very powerful stuff! With absorption of all of the energies into the pure Brahma at this level.. you are free of all taint!
ShaktipatSeer2 1 month ago
Thank you for this video. You are asking some interesting questions. And leaving a few more unasked.
You have said in the past that the only true initiation is through guru (If i am misquoting or missing your earlier points please correct me) If guru turns out to be corrupt (as so many do) where do you go? How do you know a true guru?
grosenberg45 1 month ago
@grosenberg45
These questions are not intended as a challenge. (Definitely not in any offensive way). These are questions I have explored (am exploring in my own life). I have a lot of respect for both you and your path and am curious what your answers may be at this point
grosenberg45 1 month ago
KRSNA still smiles.
Funny, when my forehead was painted at ISKCON I felt unworthy.
RndmMexican 1 month ago
This is why I'm into the Left-Hand Path: "I knew then that the Christian church thrives on hypocrisy, and that man's carnal nature will out no matter how much it is purged or scoured by any white-light religion." -Anton Szandor LaVey
DarkF00L 1 month ago
@DarkF00L Well suit yourself.. that may be a bit of a knee-jerk reaction if that is the reason why your into it..
ShaktipatSeer2 1 month ago
@ShaktipatSeer2 Well, LaVey was just one person in the Left-Hand Path (albeit a very influential one). To me, a good starting point is in order. The whole RHP/LHP are really two ways of reaching the same conclusion. RHP adheres to tradition and codes while LHP breaks them. Both paths lead to enlightenment.
With the exception of the fundamentalist religions such as christianity or islam, you won't find me bashing "white-light" religions as much.
DarkF00L 1 month ago
@DarkF00L I beg to differ.. LHP people only think that their path is equal to RHP.. but in reality the way they have to try to justify it shows that in their hearts they know that this is just a childish endeavor and they are not equal at all.. RHP leads to the realm of "Vaikuntha" the Kingdom of Heaven, LHP does not.. Because one must surrender one's self in love and service to enter that realm.. Enlightenment is not what the LHP's think it is..
ShaktipatSeer2 1 month ago
@ShaktipatSeer2 You raise a very interesting point my friend. If you noticed, I posted a comment on your channel with the number 93. 93 is actually a reference to Thelema's law "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is the law, love under will." Will/Love. I believe that love is important, however, I don't believe in spreading it so thin or so "universal".
DarkF00L 1 month ago
@DarkF00L You lost me at "however" ... =] .. love is something simple even a small child understands it.. it is universal to them.. there is no small innocent child which equates love to eating corpses like LHP Yogis in India or having bizarre sex orgies in the name of some distorted view of spiritualism.. It's very simple.. simple for the simple complicated for the complicated..
ShaktipatSeer2 1 month ago
@ShaktipatSeer2 lol. Life is both simple and complicated (or complex). True, a child understands love, however (stay with me now!), a child does not understand how ferocious and terrifying the world can be. This is where love evolves into something more complicated for the sake of survival. Love and innocence are beautiful, but so too strength and courage (even if it means breaking through disgusting taboos).
I disagree with you, but I have high respect for you my friend. 93.
DarkF00L 1 month ago
@ShaktipatSeer2 To me, the fulfillment of one's true Will, despite all odds, is a form of loving life so deeply that you push back against all odds.
DarkF00L 1 month ago
scratch the itch
Sailor33195 1 month ago
Another one bites the dust . They won't allow Pure Devotees to come and preach in ISKCON , so without guidance and association from Pure Devotees , these kanishta gurus will continue to fall
bayridge108 1 month ago
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theowlsnest 1 month ago
ISKCON is a joke - the GBC is the root cause of the joke. The movement was tainted from early beginnings. Most educated spiritual seekers are hip to the con (CASHCON). Prabhupad came to the west for westerners - today one can hardly find a westerner in any of the US ISKCON temples (mostly Indian transplants attend.) They continue to rip off unassuming uneducated Indians - and a large Russian demographic (don't understand that.) Stay away from ISKCON - you've been warned! Read: Monkey On A Stick
BhaktaEd 1 month ago