2010 Nevada Gammick Ad

[bigtarrose]

i like the SAFER strategy, but what do you say to people who claim the majority of pot smokers also like to consume alcohol at the same time? It would be interesting to see how many people consider it an alternative or an addition to alcohol.

[waywardeus]

@bigtarrose Theres nothing wrong with smoking, it's the use of fibres and oil that would bring down 80% of the poluting industry that uses us nowdays

[yerk3]

DA Gimmick

[Mennismervice]

i hope you guys know I'm being sarcastic......this is very intellectual i just felt like saying that :D

[Mennismervice]

This is bullshit and propaganda!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AhuitzotlTlazohtla]

This ad is just the right approach.

[InKa4484]

Of course he doesn't want Nevada to be safer, that gives him less of a budget to imbezzle.

[killamenjarro]

OWND

[OldJoeCurwen]

@HalfBak3dM0nkey

Your comment is off-topic and probably counter-productive to advancing the pro-pot cause. As soon as you start discussing other drugs, you risk turning off people who might be on the fence. Think before hitting the send key.

[ayemaya75]

If I had a choice between being around a bunch of pot smokers and a bunch of drunks, I would definitely choose the pot smokers. Why? MJ "mellows" people out while alcohol brings out people's inner suppressed behavior - such as anger that can easily escalate to violent behavior. It never made sense to me why MJ is illegal but alcohol is.

Yliandra: You must be very young. It's the "over 50" crowd that escalated MJ use in this country, during the 1960's.

[enzo83sr]

not much of an "attack" but at least its on the air.

[whoo689]

Gammick? More like Gimmick.

[witness4justice]

nice!

[helloman1976]

LEGALIZE IT

[cybersiren7]

It's not bad. Certainly it takes a sensible approach to how marijuana smoking effects people. In California where I am it's legal on the state level and that business is doing very well! Once they start taxing it the revue alone will bring in billions to the state budget. The public has to keep the pressure on the representatives to get it legalized nation wide while we have a democrat in the white house.

They have already lightened up on the Feds busting the dispensories,

[nanasioux]

I understand the world mean no order only control. Isn't it illegal to smoke in a build, near a crowd of people or just when your speaking in public?

Maybe not, but it's morally wrong

[izit420]

Great ad. It's nice to hear some truth in advertising.

[andjusticeforall2010]

The days of dinosaurs like Him are coming to an end. We want common sense approach to drug laws not hard headed ideaologies such as his. Drug worriors hypocrasy is blatant and that knowledge is spreading like a wildfire being pushed by the wind. End this insanity.

[stephen732]

perhaps talking about its medicinal value and the lack of major side effects could be a start. and the savings to the state by decriminalizing it. its also 100% natural, no additives... mother nature knows best

[tbmtravis]

I agrea with Logan, I am a a supporter of the marijuana movement, but this add did not do it for me. I know what the big picture of this ad is, but I'm not someone who needs a better depiction of the wrong done, the 50 and over crowd do, and I highly doubt they got the point from this clip.

[ktlives]

Please don't cast aspersions at the over 50 crowd. I got the point quite well, and I'm over 60. I smoked pot for several of those years, probably started before you were born!

[HDRider420]

@ tbmtravis you must be drunk because marijuana has been the choice for many people over 50 for more years than you've been alive. If somebody would have told me in the 60's that marijuana would still be illegal in 2010 I'd would've told them they were on some BAD acid.

[OldJoeCurwen]

@HDRider420

Hear, hear!

Just who do you think bankrolls all of these efforts? Clue: it isn't youngsters for the most part. Some of the people are like me: old guys who got busted for pot long before many of you were born. We remember and we want to see the prohibitionists out of a job before we're in the grave.

[norcaliSavior]

FUCKIN' BRILLIANT!!!!

[IdolHans]

As a Conservative Republican, I say Gammick needs to go get a real job and I hope the people of Nevada pass the prop and get rid of dingy Harrry at the same time!

[tragikentertainment]

Go Nevada!!!

[rayaBein]

Right on Nevado, kudos, much respect.

Hey Gammick, your breed is dying off, thank God.

[gurlface]

Dear Richard Gammick, Nevada DA: 1. There is more to growing marijuana than dropping some seeds in a cup. Please, educate yourself, and quickly before you embarrass yourself further. 2. Albeit alcohol is legal, it is still illegal to perform surgery or operate an airplane while intoxicated from alcohol. 3. These are not good reasons to stay in the dark ages, and for marijuana to stay illegal to posses for the average taxpayer. It is asinine and ignorant.

[Funkbone]

Great job, MPP!

Now, more than ever, with state deficits mounting and prisons overcrowded, we should be directing our law enforcement personnel to focus their resources on getting violent criminals off the street, not wasting their time and our tax dollars on busting adults for smoking a joint.

We can't afford the irrational status quo any longer.

[logancircle20005]

If you want your ads to be taken more seriously, get a professional narrator, or at least one who obviously sounds older than 50 or so. You also might think about getting one who matches the demographic group your targeting (assuming you've segmented your target audience already). If your surveys show [x] are the most likely to be persuaded, get a representative of [x] as your narrator.

[Yliandra]

Well, if this ad isn't targeted specifically at the over 50 crowd, wouldn't that mean your suggestions are contradictory?

I would agree with the idea of getting a more dynamic speaker. I've done a little VO work, and it's all about matching tone to the message. This one doesn't quite sync there. It's kind of like you tried to portray Lewis Black's cynicism with Dane Cook's voice, and it feels off as a result. I also think you could've used the 30 seconds to better advantage.

[asianbro1]

Once again the MPP fights the lies and ignorance of people like this man.

The people of VIrginia need support like this if HB 1134 and 1136 are to become in effect.

[thejamhole]

beautifully said.

[mastermindjo]

Awesome. We need more attack ads like this. If theres one thing that get public service persons attention its bad publicity lol.

[Bonesnoff]

The better arguement is that cannabis use is far less dangerous than cannabis prohibition. Yeah it's safer than alcohol...many things are. So what?

[myskyren]

Well the point of it is the hypocrisy, not just the fact that one is more and one less dangerous.

Though I agree, I think focusing more on the danger of marijuana prohibition would also be helpful

[666babyoscar]

Nice add, but I don't think it grabs your attention. Even Gandhi was more provocative than this. MPP the people are with you, so use that. If you were to request a TV add, Ill bet there are a million U-tubers out there willing to help.

[jeich55]

apparently this guy is on booze. he is a bald headed , misinformed red neck old fart who steals from the coffers of his county but likes to slam cannbis smokers. God created cannabis so does he criticize god for designing a flowering herb that kills no one in 6000 years? so cannabis makes you into a queer? this guy is an idiot! he is talking for the law enforcement who arrest and jail americans for a flowering herb.

[grave4grave]

Everyone always uses the alcohol is worse argument, while I agree with it, Ending prohibition is best for humanity, because after all we are just a bunch of bipedal primates wasting money, time, and lives punishing other bipedal primates for having substances less harmful than those at any lawn and garden store , crafts store or cleaning center that is readily available and no doubt huffed daily. Prohibition Fails Period !

[gulsbyjag]

Excellent ad! No need to be really "in your face" unless you want to march in the street, and then you need a LARGE march to not be considered the "freaks". JMHO

[bropey]

go NEV.

[freebob3]

I'm so glad that we don't have to wait for these old guys to die off - go get 'em Nevada.

[PonyHorton]

When are such ads gonna start fighting fire with fire? This ad was nice in that it tossed-out a factoid about pot being less harmful than alcohol. That's all fine and dandy, but the ad was still weak as hell. There was no attack, no punch, no impact to it. The producer musta been smokin' some Sleepy Weed, because this ad was just too... mellow.

We need ads that are shocking, funny, and most of all, MEMORABLE.

We need a slogan. We need to WIN.

[MRT0001]

Pony, I agree with you 100%. It's a 'nice' ad. But not memorable.

I also agree we need a good slogan....

[FreedomIsSecurity]

nice

[piks7275]

sodom and gomorrah ..how funny coming from a state where prostitution,abortion,homosexu­ality,gambling and Las Vegas are. gimme a break

[ocassidy]

Spandy, the Bible is a story, evolution and big bang are theories. Well accepted theories, except by those who choose to believe a story passed mostly by word of mouth until it was written and compiled by dozens of people in many different languages decades/centuries after the events are said to have occurred.

And even the people who share the faith in the Bible cannot decide on which versions or how to correctly interpret the stories.

[artistcreature]

This man is truly a republican christian. They don't use sense, JUST THEIR LITTLE PEA BRAINS. This man should be kicked out of office. Screw the stupid moron. GIVE HIM A TOKE, RELAX. GOD DID CREATE MARIJUANA. He did not create a religion no matter what you idiots believe .His followers did.

[PeteEyre]

Sensible marijuana laws is a contradiction in terms - in this case the law being referred to is not Natural Law but man-made legislation, which is arbitrary.

Giving another individual or group of people the authority to control what you can and cannot put into your body usurps your choice. It makes you a slave to their whims.

You own your body and therefore don't need anyone's permission to put whatever substance you choose into it.

[montanasunflower]

@PeteEyre Get some!

[copcorona]

2010 the year we ended prohibition.

[spandy1212]

So why don't you go jump into a cataclysmic explosion of a small volume of matter at extremely high density and temperature....or evolve from a monkey, or whatever story it is you like to tell that I'm suppose to "believe."

[vedger]

HAHAHA a heroic dose! that sounds fun!

[BATHORY4LIFE]

i want to go to the hymalayas cuz they speak to god with there shit man lol.

[empbac]

What is he smoking? lol I think it's called Christianity.

[spandy1212]

@empbac

No, I'm Christian and I smoke.

Dumb ass.

[empbac]

Why are you Christian? Hasn't the smoke opened your eyes yet?

[verikmillz]

@empbac

If you think someone can't worship / have faith in a deity and smoke marijuana at the same time, you're fucking retarded.

I personally thank Jesus for the bud we smoke.

[empbac]

What does a fictional character have to do with the bud we smoke? Jesus is Santa for adults. While you might THINK it's all from Jesus, it's really just a combination of several factors, such as your ability to get/grow it and the match between THC production in the plant's genetics and the cannabinoid receptors in human genetics. It's really that simple. Jesus is a non-answer.

[spandy1212]

Seriously, why debate it?  Only a fool would try to justify himself to anyone regardless of whether or not they were a believer or non-believer.

Its not debateable because the belief in God is just that....a belief.

I believe, I don't give a damn if you believe, but don't spout your garbage off like it's even going to make me question my faith based off of what some clown on youtube said

[empbac]

I'm not trying to justify myself. I'm asking you to. Beliefs should be based on evidence. No evidence or logic, no basis for belief. If one makes the claim that Jesus is real, that's an extraordinary statement and it requires extraordinary evidence. But how much is there? None. Assertions and anecdotes, that's all there is.

If you don't care whether your beliefs are true then there's nothing I can do about that except ask you to use your brain. Brain use is good for you.

[PippiAllenMuhammed]

Beliefs don't be based on evidence...thats why it's a belief, not a fact. Religion has historically been a way for people to try and understand the world around them. Your belief that logic/science will do that for you is just as founded as someone who belongs to a church, and you are basically pushing it on everyone and trying to get them to convert, which is the same as what christians have done to piss non-believers off for generations. If you think his belief is that absurd, ignore it.

[empbac]

Wrong. Wrong in so many ways.

Beliefs CAN be based on evidence, IE gravity, something you deal with minute to minute. It's evident, so it's believable. God, on the other hand, is unfounded as there is no evidence at all that he/she/it exists. Science has a history of progress. Religion does not. They both make truth claims, but religions consistently get things wrong. They've never enlightened us about the world around us. If you think religion is just as valid as science, stop using your PC.

[PippiAllenMuhammed]

I think science gets things right more of the time as far as explaining the world, the point is that a religious belief doesn't have to be "real" or based on things that are "real". People have belief because they need something to hold on to to keep them grounded, make them happier, and live morally. You need to get that, and stop trying to convert other people with your pissy comments. you don't have to believe the same thing and when you're aggressive about it you're just being a dick

[empbac]

Oh... so you're saying you need a security blanket. A way to cope. An escape. A fantasy. I see...

The best way to solve a problem is to address it directly, not cover it up. If you're afraid of the water and subsequently ease that fear by never going near water, you haven't faced your fear, you have merely let the fear grow in you. We should seek to gain independence from security blankets and base our beliefs on what's real.

[tmeyer155]

@empbac

Ok then. Change society as a whole. In your lifetime. Make corporations powerless. Remove all advertising. Make humanity unafraid of open displays of kindness. Get rid of politics, or the need for them. Fix global warming. Re-mediate global labor practices.

Address those directly and get back to me in a week. You're right; humanity needs no escape from the hell we've created for ourselves and are now individually powerless to address holistically.

[empbac]

Who said anything about fixing all the world's problems? Certainly not I. Solutions start with individuals. The more people that operate under a realistic operating system, the fewer societal problems we will have. That's the correlation. Educate and challenge old ways of thinking, that's the method. I'm advising Christians to get rid of this particularly harmful security blanket. Once they do, they need to encourage others. It's a chain reaction leading to greater peace and real security.

[PippiAllenMuhammed]

@empbac I never said I leaned either way, or that I was christian or religious...I'm just saying there is nothing wrong with living a moral life and holding on to something...life is hard, and if some people need some help living meaningful lives then there isnt anything wrong with that. As long as someone isn't harming anyone else, what they are doing isn't our business.

[empbac]

I never said you lean either way, but you are defending religion. If you're not religious yet you defend those who are, I think you don't realize the full implications of your position. First, you can be moral without religion. Religion, in fact, isn't innately moral. Second, moderates distract from the very real problems that fundamentalists exhibit. By defending religion we allow extremists to persist in their views, unchallenged.

[empbac]

I don't think it's THAT harmful for some random person to believe in a god, at least to those around him. But it does take an unnoticeable psychological toll (at least until you snap out of it and realize how fucked you are), and it paves the way for even more absurd beliefs. Faith is a viscous cycle. The more you accept ideas with low standards of evidence, the more crap can get into your head unfiltered. Notice that many theists also believe in ghosts, astrology, etc. It's all garbage.

[yerk3]

empbac: Religion: the one drug where the gateway theory actually has some merit.

[empbac]

Fucking awesome, man. I'm going to remember that one. =D

[myskyren]

Faith doesn't have to be a vicious cycle. A person can be open-minded to evidence in terms of making logical decisions in their lives, while also using religion as something to comfort themselves. Humans are fallible, weak beings by nature; just because someone discards religion, that doesn't mean they won't use something ELSE as a safety blanket.

[empbac]

Wrong. Faith is a viscous cycle by definition. What IS faith? It's accepting beliefs without reasons for belief. "Blessed are those that have not seen yet still believe." The more faithful you are, the less rational you are. The more you doubt bald assertions, the more questions you will ask. Doubt leads to a desire for investigation. There are ways to cope that are based in reality. You don't need to believe in the Tooth Fairy to be happy, do you? I'm happy enough without wild fantasy.

[myskyren]

Moreover, some people believe in things because of their own experience. Just because there is no scientifically recognized/accepted evidence doesn't mean that there is no evidence at all. Science has its own bias (which it needs to work as well as it does) -- its bias makes certain things pretty much untouchable (such as accounts of ghost stories). It doesn't mean they are fake, simply that they cannot be scientifically verified (at least not yet).

[empbac]

Wrong again. I have had 'religious' experiences and shared my portion of anecdotes when I was christian, yet I recognize that there are neurotransmitters in my brain that create those kinds of sensations and a much better explanation for them isn't 'god', but 'dopamine'. You can study religious experiences by giving someone mescaline. This can be done in a clinical setting where research is plausible. The kinds of 'evidence' you're talking about are unrepeatable events with unknown variables.

[empbac]

If you can't repeat or study the experience, and it's all subjective, then how can you know it's not just a hallucination? Hallucinations happen far more often than you realize, and drugs do not need to be involved.

From another angle, there are so many conflicting anecdotes that they become mutually exclusive. If my experiences tell me Mohammed is a prophet, and yours tell you that Joseph Smith is the real prophet, then who is objectively right? Without something to study, your claim is

[empbac]

as bad as anyone else's. THAT is why science and standards of evidence are so important. Religions teach you that you can believe something just because you feel it, and that then affects behavior. Why do you think prohibition remains in place? Propaganda works, and rather than encouraging the masses to think critically, the state tells them just to believe, just to fear, because only Big Brother can make you safe. This is the SAME faith defect we find with religion. It's a fallacy.

[myskyren]

Okay, but I'm not quite talking about the same thing as you.

When I'm talking about evidence, I'm talking about, for example, a story a friend of mine shared with me. He and his friend both saw two girls at a graveyard after sneaking into it. They led my friend to the entrance he'd snuck into without him telling them that's where he'd come through. Moreover, my friend his friend turned to leave, but then remembered to say goodbye, turned around, and both girls were gone

[myskyren]

Wide area, leaves everywhere. How do you explain that?

I'm pretty sure they weren't both hallucinating, and he isn't a liar.

MAYBE he was wrong, but what he saw was enough to him to prove that something was off about the situation.

And moreover I'm not saying people should take things completely on faith and never question anything. That leads only to ignorance and stagnation. What I'm saying is people should definitely question themselves, and rigorously, but on a personal level (cont)

[myskyren]

they can do it in a way that doesn't necessarily involve totally giving themselves up to ONLY what science has proven.

It can also mean questioning themselves through other philosophical means. I think as a long as a person is open-minded enough not to outright reject science, they are certainly no harm to it.

Remember also that there are also scientists who are religious.

[myskyren]

AND ALSO -- so what if it's neurotransmitters in your brain creating bizarre sensations and hallucinations and things?

What the person is seeing still has an effect on them, regardless of whether or not they know it's just chemicals. I mean technically everything we observe in science is also a result of the chemical processes of our mind, but I won't get into that since I know that argument could carry out forever.

I don't believe phenomena like hallucinations are really explained yet (cont)

[myskyren]

How do you know there isn't a linkage between the two? Between science and "supernatural things"? Chemical processes in the brain that cause hallucinations on "shamanic drugs" like salvia, for example: perhaps the scientifically understood process is just a building block to allow us to see beyond what we normally do. That doesn't mean it isn't "real," it just means it's only real to the viewer. If nothing else, it is insight into one's own mental processes, which is quite as important as

[yerk3]

@myskyren Because "supernatural" takes place outside of the physical world. There is no evidence for anything outside of the physical world. To all intents and purposes, the physical world is all there is.

[myskyren]

okay, but no physical evidence doesn't mean there isn't something to it

and I have many other ideas on this topic but

I'm engaged in an elaborate debate wih empbac about this already so that's all I'm going to say

[yerk3]

@myskyren No physical evidence means there is no reason to believe there is "something to it."

[myskyren]

the physical things we experience everyday.

Perhaps science and supernatural/ethereal happenings are really one and the same, and the obsession people have with dividing the two and warring about them is the reason we have not realized this.

Goddamn I really wish youtube would just let up on the character count. I think several posts in a row is a lot more annoying than one text wall

[empbac]

Agree about character limit.

You have several serious flaws in your logic here, and I will get into it in a message since there is no limit there. Can be much more precise with no boundaries.

[yerk3]

@myskyren Science and the "supernatural" cannot coexist because "supernatural," by definition, rests outside of the natural world. Science shows that there is no reason to believe in anything definite outside of the "natural world." This is because the "natural" world is the totality of everything that exists, and has ever existed.

[myskyren]

I really was only using supernatural as a convenience word; I meant that perhaps it is in fact a part of the natural that is, as of yet, mysterious to us

[verikmillz]

@empbac

How many things must we label as "coincidence" before it becomes more than that?

Anyways, it doesn't matter, because that was simply my opinion, and stating that "Jesus is a non-answer" just makes you a bigot.

[empbac]

Coincidence? What do you have in mind? Like, two people mysteriously recovering from a disease at the same time, therefore there must be a god? You're ignoring all the "coincidences" that oppose your world-view, such as all the other people who don't recover mysteriously from the disease. This is the problem with most Christians. They pick and choose whatever seems to support their claims and then skim over and forget everything else.

I admit I'm a little aggressive, but I think it's justified.

[vedger]

well thats good to hear! now spread the word to your jesus friends!

[aladinthemonkey]

No, he's snorting Christianity.

[tempss]

and how.

[DidITweetThat]

Marijuana leads to chillin', and what goes better with chillin' than beer... I think the alcohol lobby should reconsider their position, before alcohol loses all credibility.

[spandy1212]

@DidITweetThat

I've thought that as well.

Makes you wonder if right when states start to legalize if the alcohol and/or tobacco companies will join in to save face, followed by them getting involved in the mass production of marijuana.

Fuck them though. If it's ever legalized just do what most have always done...buy your weed from local growers.

[DidITweetThat]

...Or grow it yourself. That's what Tobacco, Alcohol, and Pharma are afraid of the most.

[brianz1214]

marijauna leads to love love leads to peace peace leads to loss of power and the need for money

[imthejoker4u2]

WOW

Well said

[iudnnobasszal]

great ad

[samuscovy]

Power hungry distorted individual Gammick is.

[wtf9171275]

good shit

[AaronWDFP]

marijuana leads to campfires

[killamenjarro]

YOU MADE MY DAY SIR

[xxblodlustxx]

Lol it sure does!! I love smokin around a campfire with some buddies.

[b3astieboi2]

@AaronWDFP bum bum bum bummmmm

[mrblisterfist]

FREE MARC EMERY !!!

[RevGreen]

the law is wrong not the bong meth is death pot is not.......

[imnickim]

haaaa slay on his old ass life

[whysoblueberry]

I agree with the message but the commercial absolutely sucks. it definitely isn't drawing any non-supporters to the movement.

[GilbertsonDerick]

They have two choices: Legalize it, or don't legalize it.

Either way, were gonna be getting high.

[Robstailey]

woot legalize it mofos

[PartVIII]

that was an amazing advertisement

[SileDevil]

come on ppl we can do it we can beat all this evil ppl who hate freedom and peace

[teleomorph]

Wonderful spot. Excellent, excellent job MPP!

[lalobling]

damn republicans.....

[dg4rez]

vegas loves you MPP - keep up the good work

-peace and pot

[HugeJohn51]

'what is he smoking?" "well it isn't Marijuana'

Brilliant, and funny.

[darthpaul123]

dont forget the part about how he looks angry lol.

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

Prohibition is one of the only profitable industries left in this country. Law enforcement relies on that for the majority of their budget. When you talk about common sense laws and actually making this a better more free country, you are proposing taking away meal tickets for nazi pigs. That's why they will lie, cheat and steal to keep things the way they are.

[jeich55]

you are right on cops are nazis that arrest americans for their own benefit, that includes lawyers,prison guards , all the lowlifes.

[joshpoons4life]

Haha, that is an AWESOME ad. Gammick is such a dick