No bullshit these guys were the finest mobile infantry in the world ! I would say the Australian soldiers are the finest in the world . Im surprised that I have met alot in the Infantry serving in the best units of the United States Army like the 82nd Airborne,25th Infantry,4th Infantry,101st Air Assault,and my old unit the 1/508th Parachute Infantry Regiment while I was in Iraq . I thank these boys and their families for the honor of serving with us . Cheers good Diggers !
This is story I was tolled in a charge they would walk,trot,gallop and charge but one horse took off and they all went with it, as the horses could smell the water at Beersheba they were restless and wanted to go and once they went they couldn't be reined in and well the rest is history isn't it.
2 miles of open terrain thats a Melbourne Cup Race with machineguns and artillery firing at you that feat will never be seen again. That bread of horse was almost lost to Australia as most where sent to the war and left there when it was over for the locals to have. There was no doubt alot of luck was envoled as past history had shown that charges against machineguns and artillery was sucide.
Something that always bugged me about this, the Germans/Turks did'nt use canister shot. It probably still been standard issue to field artillery units in the German army at the time. I've always thought we were bloody lucky that day. RIP
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well.
This wasn't the last successful Cavalry charge. There were charges in Polish-Soviet War in 1920-21 (e.g Battle of Komarów). There were some successfull charges made by Uhlans (Polish Light Cavalry) in 1939. For example in the Battle Of Kałuszyn (which helped to retake this town from Germans) or charge against Soviets in a battle of Husynne. The last Polish Cavalry charge was made in March 1945 in the Battle of Borujsk.
@ChuopZeWsi The last Polish Cavalry charge was made in March 1945 in the Battle of Borujsk, wasn't that done against Nazi's Panzer division with resulted in a massive loss?
@aussiedownunderman As far as I know only seven horsmen dead, and ten wounded. They took the village (Borujsko, now called: Żeńsko). You can read sth about on English wikipedia. Search "Battle of Schoenfeld"
Contrary to popular belief, this charge by the Australian Lighthorse was the last mounted cavalry charge of modern times, unlike the Brits attesting the the Light Horse Brigade was the last charge. This event of WW1 was very trivialised as a minor event; however, was a key in gaining an upper hand in this horrid desert warfare.
Its hard to imagine charging into artillery and machine gun fire like that on horses that have gone days without water....frankly I'm amazed the horses managed to run like that given that fact.
What about when members of the Light Horse massacred an entire town full of women and children in modern day Iraq? It was so bad that the Australian Government paid to rebuild the town after the war.
Seems like they forgot about THAT little moment in Australian history...
@TheDalek555 That is interesting since the ALH never entered the Iraq territory! Infact they never left the Egypt-Levant region. Iraq was still in hostile hands until the closing months of the war and then it was under joint occupation by Arab forces and British Indian Army
@TheDalek555 The ALH were never in Iraq mate. That little moment in history never happened. The only Aussies to serve with the British in Iraq during WW1 were a few hundred Airmen from the Australian Flying Corps. Otherwise, present your evidence please.
GREAT re-enactment of one of the GREATEST cavalry charges of all time!
Also, that charge did as much to enhance & illuminate the spectacular combat prowess & superb fighting abilities of Irish & Scottish warriors as much as it did highlight the immeasurable bravery, superhuman tenacity & customary ferocious elan' of Australian soldiers, as at least half that cavalry was of Irish or Scottish descent!
For no doubt those undaunted & determined Australian cavalrymen were the finest in the World!
The Turk has always been respected here in Australia. As well as the comments by Attaturk re the Australian fallen, there was one instance where the Australians were charging the Turkish positions at The Nek during the Gallipoli campaign where the Australians were cut down by Turkish guns in a futile charge, the Turkish officer was yelling out "No more, No more" to the oncoming Australians.
Rommel said that an Australian charge with fixed bayonets was one of the bravest and most terrifying events he ever witnessed - he also said he could have taken the world with just a division of aussies, german tactics and american logistics.
@TheDevilsBusiness - There are many Rommel quotes regarding Aussie soldiers...here's another.
the Rats of Tobruk Association received a letter from Rommel’s son, Manfred, “My father said the Australian infantry belonged to the best troops on both sides he had seen during his military career. It was due to their professional soldiership that the Germans and Italians could not take Tobruk during the summer of 1941.
@March6371 So true, so true! Though of course such ferocity, lust for blood & enthusiasm for close quarter combat had much to do with their Irish & Scottish ancestry! For the Irish & the Scots, their far off descendents in other lands (such as Australia & Canada), & the Gurkhas & the Maori warriors were no doubt the finest & fiercest fighting men on the planet for centuries! For at least half those cavalrymen upon which the above clip was depicting were definitely of Irish & Scottish descent!
My Great Grandfather was in the 12th light horse. I'm very proud to have that in my family history. Mum says that he didn't speak much of it, only that the sound of bullets wizzing past ones head was a great sound, because if you could hear them they weren't impeded in your scone. You never hear the one that gets ya!
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A great movie but the crack about the "silly bloody poms" seems totally unnecessary and just another typical anti-british comment so prevalent in australian war movies regardless if it was historically correct or not. (yes, there were instances of muderous british incompetance). these men were charging directly into the guns so its obvious who were firing at them.
@thebookbinder well you poms used us as shock troops all through the war...our casualties dropped significantly when we were given leadership of our own troops, as did our effectiveness.
@Boothzor Few observations. Firstly the term 'shock troop' was a post war invention. The Australian formations of the British Army 1914-1919 were, generally, a more elite formation along with the Canadians and a number of other UK based Units. It is not until 1917 that Australian formations gain enough experience to become deemed 'elite.' Prior to then it was often a case of us just being bad at soldiering and command. Monash was a superior leader to the previous commanders rather than a ...
@ozzyguy67 On the Western Front, to an extent, Australians played a shock troop role, that I would conceed. However there were other elite formations that did the same.
@Boothzor ...a cannon fodder mindset within the British Army. On the contrary they were always cocerned about high levels of wastage of Dominon troops since politically they might leave the war.
This video is a different campaign altogether, it is the Middle Eastern theatre. The British Authorities valued the Anzac troops from the start (since they made up most of the Mounted Division and later Australian Mounted Division).
@Briselance Hey mate, they captured the town and the Turks panicked. Their machine guns where in reality silenced by British Artillery, which the film doesn't show. Out of 800 Aussies that charged the Turks, only 31 were killed, which by WW1 standards was miraculous, and they captured over 4000 Turkish troops. So yeah, it was successful.
"Out of 800 Aussies that charged the Turks, only 31 were killed, which by WW1 standards was miraculous"
Indeed. It's a success. And a huge one. But still, as some other youtubers said before me, hadn't the Turk infantrymen forgot to adjust their rifles' sights, the Australian casualties would have been much higher.
What I meant is that, no matter how successfull this charge was, the days of cavalry charges were over because of tanks, field guns, machine guns, planes, etc.
Absolutely magnificent. It wasn't "the last succesful Cavalry charge in the history of modern warfare' though. That would have been squadrons of the Free Polish army fighting with the Russians in Pomerania in 1945. The last large scale cavalry charge was by the Savoy Regiment (Italian) against Russian positions in 1942. The last charge by commonwealth forces was the sikhs of the Burma Field Force under Captain Sandeman at Toungoo in 1942.
@grassic Depends what you mean by Large Scale, the Russians on their advance to Berlin got in some decent charges also. The Last Cavalry Charge i am aware of, other than 3rd world conflicts, was in 1971 in the Portugal-Angloa war where Dragoons actually broke Rebel forces.
@fp470 That's fascinating, I didn't know about Angola. Do you have a link or sources for that? I'd love to see them, almost all sources I've seen seem to agree that there really hasn't been a serious cavalry charge since 1945, which was the Poles in the last stages of the war. The charge of the Savoy against the Russians was 3 batallion strong making it regimental level, I don't believe there has been a regimental level charge since then.
@grassic Ian Jones 'A Thousand Miles of Battles', 2007 about the Australian Light Horse mentions it. Sadly I no longer have the book (leant it to someone) so I cant give you a page. Websearching revealed a bit but not in English. Probably the tendency to Western Historians to obsess over WW2 and a Anglo-American & German centric view of 20th Century conflict is why it is unknown. I believe it was a regiment, but 'regemento' is about the extent of my Portuguese. Let me know if you find anything
@fp470 Thanks that's really interesting. I didn't know anyone was using horses post 50s. I read Spanish so I can often get the gist of written Portuguese, I'll see what I can find. i don't suppose you know the name of the regiment or any dates?
@grassic Sadly no. I foung it odd too, that a Western Nation would use horses past the 50s- but I suppose Angola as a back water with jungle and no infrastructure might make it viable. 1970-71 Is only date I am aware of andduring the Angolan war. I think they were called Angolan Dragoons- but were Portuguse in nationality.
@fp470 I found out quite a lot but no real details. The Angolan Dragoons certainly took part in operations in the 70s. Did they actually charge? No one seems to know. Technically they were Mounted Infantry rather than cavalry which suggests they shot at the enemy rather than close engagement. Grey's Scouts in Rhodesia supposedly charged as late as 76. They were not large units, the Dragoons no more than 3 squadrons so not comparable to the Lighthorse or Savoy charges.
@grassic Well all I can say is that apparenlty they did charge according to the source. Although be careful of confusing Mounted Infantry with Mounted Rifles, Jean Bou in his latest book highlights the difference. Also keep in mind two things
1. Dragoons were always intended as a form of mounted firepower- not mounted infantry- that had facility to charge.
2. The 1880s reforms in many Countries redefined cavalry to fill a more dragoon like role as 'mounted rifles' and traditional cavalry
@fp470 ok I accept all that. The issue is simply that there seems to be a lack of information and a LOT of debate on the subject. My feeling is that Cavalry had had its day by the Great War and the last significant cavalry actions were isolated instances in WW2. Beyond that it seems only to have been viable in late colonial skirmishes eg Kenya 1953 Angola and Rhodesia in the 70s. The Afghan Alliance is still using cavalry today and I hear even "charging" though information is hazy
@grassic Cavalry as the mobile army is not necessarily an encumberance in post 45 operations. The proliferation of high fire power means that frontal charges are dangerous. Frontal charges become rarer after 1700, but cavlary live on till the early 20th century. Cavalry was always a weapon better suited to opportunity and the strategic level. Cavalry are most effectrive when pursuing a retreateing army to slow their retreat and in this role they would be effective today in SOME conflicts
@grassic I think maybe it is fair to say that the capture of Beersheba was the last horse mounted charge to have a decisive effect on the outcome of a military campaign, ie, the rolling up of the Turkish Army's hither to unbroken Gaza- Beersheba defensive line, and a decisive victory in the 3rd Battle of Gaza. From that point the Ottoman Turks were left no option but to retreat all the way to Alleppo in Syria, and surrender, permanently losing their Empire under the Treaty of Versailles.
@wattlebough I think that is fair to say. The only comparable subsequent charge, that I have been able to verify thus far is the charge of the Savoy on the Don and that only had a very local effect on the campaign. Beersheba, as you say, was far more significant strategically and thus is more than simply a historical curio. incidentally, Amedeo Guillett who led cavalry against the British in Somaliland (and double charged a British column) just died last month a brave and honourable man
@wattlebough The advance to Jerusalem was greatly assisted by cavalry, both Australian and British. The Turks were reforming but a number of cavalry charges prevented them from digging into the area-In the Damascus operation the ALH and British Cavalry also charged a number of positions and it was one of these charges that took Damascus before Lawrence of Arabia, prompting Ottoman Surrender on 1918. Beersheba did not lead to Ottoman Surrender but a major Ottoman Setback.
@fp470 All true mate bar Damascus, which was captured with barely a shot fired. Officially Lawrence & his Northern Arab Army got credit for it's capture, for political reasons relating to Sykes-Picot Treaty, but what you referred to was Major Olden of the 10th ALH Regt accepting surrender from the Mayor of Damascus before Lawrence showed up in his shiny pearl blue Rolls Royce, complete with Lewis gun mounted on front passenger side, 3 hours later. The Turks were finally destroyed at Megiddo
One of the most courageous acts in history. Australians have true grit, tenacity and the fortitude to succeed at all costs, a trait the Diggers still have to this day. God bless the Aussies.
@MrJapaneseboy1111 That's a nice compliment, i also agree somewhat with the 'old folks' disdain of the English. My only worry is that of the recent passport saga, Israel must not do that 2 Australia, we (try 2 be) a neutral country & a good friend of Israel, hopefully this will not happen again - even if a cruel man must die...
@MrJapaneseboy1111 haha : P maybe? I dont know these things... Look my only concern is Australia & Isreal r friends but as a small populace nation, with a lot of territory & a shit_ of resources Australia must be careful, the Chinese are doing their 'utmost' to purchase whatever resource companies they can down under, if one day 'heaven forbid' we r attacked our army would last a maximum of 10 hrs, thats it, Australia has fought in so many wars (4 peace) we cant allow any bllshit 2 come our way
i dont understand how can brits australian american and all the rest of the countries in NATO can criticize israel for protecting their land from the muslims while their own armies are fighting million miles away on foreign land cusing more collateral damage then the iraelis ever did in all the war they fought put together.
i dont understand how can brits australian american and all the rest of the countries in NATO can criticize israel for protecting their land from the muslims while their own armies are fighting million miles away on foreign land cusing more collateral damage then the iraelis ever did in all the war they fought put together.
@hirolahmanagementand and you must agree with me that sending a hit sqwad to eliminate 1 terrorists is much more effective then sending ALL OF NATO spending billions killing thousands and losing thousand and still NOT getting ur man(osama).
israelis turend war into an art and i must say that they are the first ones adjusting their tactics to the modern battlefield
@MrJapaneseboy1111 "i would like you to tell me what pasporrts are the ASIS agents are using on their work undercover in foreign countries?"
Yes quite possibly they are not using Australian passports, but I doubt they would not be using Israeli passports either. Also I am not aware of ASIS using foreign passports while carrying out high profile assassinations that end up all over the world media.
"The title ANZAC indicated its composite Australian and New Zealand nature and as such was possibly the first official use of this term for this purpose, rather than as a designation for an army corps."
@SapperK9 You really should not quot wikpedia. The ANZAC mounted Division included correctly Australian and NewZealand mounted rifles brigades, botht the Australian Light Horse and teh New Zealand Mounted Rifles. It also included attached UK units and eventually would stranglely enough also include attached French units. The force was actually a form of cavarly known as Mounted Rifles as opposed to mounted infantry.
"The ANZAC Mounted Division was a mounted infantry (light horse) division formed in March 1916 in Egypt during World War I following the Battle of Gallipoli when the Australian and New Zealand mounted regiments returned from fighting as infantry. For the remainder of the war it served in the Middle East, in the Sinai, Palestine and Syria."
"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours.. You the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears. Your sons are now living in our bosom and are in peace. Having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
About 3 years ago, there was a reenactment of the battle here in Beer-Sheva, with authentic equipment and costumes(and horses), Emo feathers on the hats and all. I was told that some of the participants were relatives of those who actually took part in the real battle. It is great to see that the people who fought in that battle are remembered and cherished, even though some of them are burried half a world away from thier homeland.
@StrangelyBrownNo1 LOL! I meant the bird. The lighthorsemen put those on their hats, one of them explained it to me. it resembles the unit's fighting spirit, cuz the bird can't walk backwards.
@sfdeliveries76 The Australian Light Horse was not cavalry, it was mounted infantry. And nobody, but no bugger freed the Well of the Covenant of Abraham, other an ANZAC LighthorseMEN.
@SapperK9 The Australian Light Horse were actually a form of cavarly called mounted rifles. The only Australian Mounted Infantry of WW1 were the Imperial Camel Corps. ALH are a form of cavalry in their; organisation, equipment and tactical use. They lack the fire power of mounted infantry. In 1918 they are upgraded to full cavarly by being issued with swords
@SapperK9 Actually they were Australian Light Horse. ANZAC only covers integrated AUStralian and New Zealand units. The Light Horse at Beersheba were Australian only.
@Kampfkauz "how funny... a few horses against a watercooled machinegun"
I am glad you like a laugh. In practice the Strines had brains as well as bottle. There wasn't any barbed wire to slow them up and they were moving so fast that the Turks didn't have a chance to sight there weapons properly. As a result the Australian losses were fairly light.
@Kampfkauz Yes this was a true event and this movie was made to be very historically accurate. THe attack unfolded in this manner. This clip does lack the lead up that explains/depicts how the attack was able to work.
@Kampfkauz - The funny thing is, most of the weapons that the Turks dropped while running away were found to have the incorrect adjustments to the sights. So the machine guns - water-cooled or otherwise - would have been firing over the heads of the charge. The reason the sights were set incorrectly? The Turks pissed their pants when the Lighthorse charged instead of dismounting...I've spent 6 years in the Aust Army, and there are some crazy bastards who would probably charge on skates.
Teufelsnachbar667 : "Even if they are Turks?" Apologise. Now. The Turks have been great warriors for centuries and had the utmost respect from the troops on the Australian side who fought against them. Have YOU every fought with or against Turkish Soldiers? Have you reflected on the magnificent generosity of Turkish authorities from Ataturk on in commerorating Australian fallen as if their own ? Thought not. YOU DISHONOUR AUSTRALIAS DEAD. Apologise. NOW.
@cadam007 , What are you on about ? I love Australia, I have been there 4 times to visit my brother in Perth. The thing I cannot stand is the so-called hard men in Oz who think they are better than the English. The real Aussies are the black fellows.
@Doodaddaman Of course we managed to do everything the Brits couldnt, Look at the HMAS AE2, Got inside the Sea of marmara where 2 british Subs failed to do, While there sinking several ships, And when she was unfit for combat, Went on to appear and disappear causing panic and confusion for Turks =)
@DeLachendeWolf No this is very much a representation of the actual events. They tried to make the movie very realistic, more so than the earlier attempt '40,000 Horseman'
I agree. The British Officers treated the Commonwealth troops like dirt. That probably made them want to show what they were capable of. Those men were the hardest men that WW1 produced.
Where the phrase "under the gun" came from. The artillery can only fire so low, once under the gun the shells went over them and landed harmlessly to the rear.
US Green Berets and Navy SEAL teams were on horseback alongside the Northern Alliance against Taliban. US satellite communications and smart bombs/drones were directed from horseback. Like all real War, land must be taken and keot--that can only happen from the ground.
The movie is exactly true. I couldn't find the single mistake. And I know what's I'm writing about - I was writing the article about the battle - for the magazine. one thing is wrong - Turcks speaking english - but it's for the movie needs, understood then.
Sorry, that was not meant as sarcasm. I actually enjoyed it. Bear in mind I live in Canada and was just getting into military history in 79 when Odd Angry Shot came out. Up here we are so bombarded by US TV that it actually came as a shock to me that the US had any allies in Viet Nam (other than the South Vietnamese). A lot of studying and many years later, I still love the movie and think the Australians are some of the finest soldiers to ever walk this earth.
Bear in mind Canada has produced some excellent soldiers also, including some divisions with great reputation for assault in WWI and the PPCLI who served alongside the 3 Battalion at Kapyong with whom Royal Australian Regiment still holds ties.
It is a nice change to meet someone on youtube who has respect for the militaries of other countries. It seems most spend all their time calling down their allies. I don't get it.
Unfortunately the Canadian military does not get the respect it deserves, at home or abroad. That does seem to be changing a little with the operations in Afghanistan, but it is one hell of a price being paid for it.
Funny you should say that... in Canada the majority of people, when polled, want the CF to return to it's roots as a peacekeeping force. Of course, the majority of Canadians have no idea what the CF has done since the end of WW2, nor do they realize that the best peacekeepers are those most well trained to fight a war. When the PPCLI fought a major engagement in the Medac Pocket in the Balkans, it was kept secret from the public for years, for fear they see the Canadian soldier as a war fighter.
If you really want to understand what the Canadians were capable of in WW1, check out "Vimy Ridge". There is no movie, just Youtube clips or books. Most Canadians are terribly embarrassed by our military heritage for some reason. That is another thing that impresses me about the Aussies..... you embrace your military heritage, you don't hide from it.
Embarrassed was probably the wrong word..... most Canadians simply don't know or care about their military heritage.
As for the Canadians and Australians, when they were out of the line, the British high command tried to keep them separated as they tended to get into brawls with each other. When put into the line for an assault, the Canadians would request the Australians be placed on their flank, since they knew they could be trusted to meet their objectives. Good on ya, Australia!
One Australian who was dazed after having his horse shot from under him, recovered to find his five attackers with their hands up, waiting to be taken prisoner.
Indeed...... I think us "colonials" had a lot to prove. That made the Dominion troops the best there were during WW1. If we had larger populations in 1914, the ANZACs and Canucks could have taken over the world!
there was a canadian war film which I saw some weeks ago called passchendale. It was uploaded by some canadian user. it wasnt such a bad film at all mate.
@cf80to01 Because the US is the military Force of North America
Canada is a Coward who will no longer defend the peace of forigen lands they lost their will to fight for some reason Mexicans are always ready for war among themsealves
@GERMANYisStrong I always love a response from an American who only watches FoxNews. Canada is fighting side by side with Americans in Afghanistan. You probably are not aware, but that is a foreign land. Also, statistically, Canadians have lost more soldiers than anyone else in Afghanistan. Here is another shocker for you.... the 9/11 terrorists did not (NOT A SINGLE ONE) enter the USA from Canada. Stop watching FoxNews.
@cf80to01 I am German And From Germany you soldiers deserve to die for their imperialist ambitions to deny the Rights of the Free Afghani people. And when you send 3 guys to do no fighting and one dies that is a 33% casualty rate
@GERMANYisStrong You are "German and from Germany" yet your homepage says you are American. You are full of shit. Go troll somewhere else while you shovel KFC down your gob.
Thanks for the info! I looked at a few minutes of Kokoda on youtube and it seems like another excellent film. I will now try and find a way to see it from beginning to end. Thanks again.
i hate when movies make it look like the german fighting men were incompetent fools like this. they were some of the best trained soldiers in the world.
How does it? This is pretty much how it happened, you want bias read the Turkish account- they make you look stupid. Even Von Kressenstein account lines up with this.
Also the Soldiers are Ottoman only the artillery and some machine guns services were Austrian and German.
This is one of my fav war movies of all time, the characters are incredible. There is an actual photo of this charge and the movie replicates the look exactly! This movie was made by real fans and experts on this subject.
Its an enclosed position and manpower on that flank was problematic. The usual tactic was to dismount and advance, a tactics which succeeded in other parts of the line that day with light casualties for ANZAC mnted column. The charge had very few casualties of the 800 that charged. Tactically it was an okay move since the enemy were being suppressed by artillery fire also.Thus why the Turks are seen entering the trenches-they had been hiding in sheltars but moved into the trenches
That is why the Wellington and Auckland mounted infantry dismounted and took the enfilading machine guns & artillery on the hill on the right flank, with Brit mounted yeomanry in reserve.
Beersheba was the 2nd to last SUCCESSFUL cavalry charge, which used a combo of Cav and Mounted Infantry tactics. Other recent so-called Cav charges, were mounted I incursions, NOT Cav charges. The last succesful Cav charge was the battle of Krojanty 1/9/1939 where the Pole lancers diverted German panzers.
Well there were more cavarly charges before and after this event. The ALH were a form of cavarly known as mounted rifles as by 1900 the British cavarly doctrine was supposed to have cavarly taking up firepower or shock tactics depending on the circumstance. Also in 1918 the ALH are finally armed with swords. Cavarly usually are professional and thus are taught more compex drills. THe ALH have to gain experience otherwise gained by years of practice. The NZMR didnt adopt swords however.
Finally the last difference is armament. Mounted rifles are just that, guys with rifles only. They do have a machine gun section attached but its small, 3-4 mgs. Also only one Lewis gun to cover one regiment (this is later updated to 4 hotckiss mgs). Whilst Mounted Infantry ( camel corps) have 8 maxim guns in brigade, each battalion has 12 lewis guns and alot greater rifle strenght only 1 in 16 needed as camel holder compared to 1 in 4 for ALH and NZMR
WEll neither the film, nor should most ( i stress most) Australians maintain it as the last cavarly charge. Hell a friend of mine's village got attacked by cavarly in 2000 or 1999.
I think everyone wants the prestige of being the last cavarly charge.
wish black cavier was there! she would have been about 100 lengths ahead!
TheAus1234 3 weeks ago
No bullshit these guys were the finest mobile infantry in the world ! I would say the Australian soldiers are the finest in the world . Im surprised that I have met alot in the Infantry serving in the best units of the United States Army like the 82nd Airborne,25th Infantry,4th Infantry,101st Air Assault,and my old unit the 1/508th Parachute Infantry Regiment while I was in Iraq . I thank these boys and their families for the honor of serving with us . Cheers good Diggers !
reddevilparatrooper 1 month ago
Total of 800 charged and they only lost 31.
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This is story I was tolled in a charge they would walk,trot,gallop and charge but one horse took off and they all went with it, as the horses could smell the water at Beersheba they were restless and wanted to go and once they went they couldn't be reined in and well the rest is history isn't it.
gordopark13 3 months ago
2 miles of open terrain thats a Melbourne Cup Race with machineguns and artillery firing at you that feat will never be seen again. That bread of horse was almost lost to Australia as most where sent to the war and left there when it was over for the locals to have. There was no doubt alot of luck was envoled as past history had shown that charges against machineguns and artillery was sucide.
gordopark13 3 months ago
a great finale to a great film
chewie211171 3 months ago
Ahaha "OI! Who do ya reckons shootin at us? The Turks? Or the silly bloody poms?"
summ83 4 months ago
Something that always bugged me about this, the Germans/Turks did'nt use canister shot. It probably still been standard issue to field artillery units in the German army at the time. I've always thought we were bloody lucky that day. RIP
goatboyful 4 months ago
Wow! For once the Boches don't speak in Received Pronunciation!
lindenmanmax 5 months ago
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well.
Ataturk
Palifiox 5 months ago
"Kill the bludger's."
lol.
Nice bit of old school Aussie bayonet work.
drumdust 5 months ago
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Our flag can be stand, whereever it wants. By the help of Allah.
sipahi97 5 months ago
This wasn't the last successful Cavalry charge. There were charges in Polish-Soviet War in 1920-21 (e.g Battle of Komarów). There were some successfull charges made by Uhlans (Polish Light Cavalry) in 1939. For example in the Battle Of Kałuszyn (which helped to retake this town from Germans) or charge against Soviets in a battle of Husynne. The last Polish Cavalry charge was made in March 1945 in the Battle of Borujsk.
ChuopZeWsi 5 months ago 6
@ChuopZeWsi The last Polish Cavalry charge was made in March 1945 in the Battle of Borujsk, wasn't that done against Nazi's Panzer division with resulted in a massive loss?
aussiedownunderman 1 week ago
@aussiedownunderman As far as I know only seven horsmen dead, and ten wounded. They took the village (Borujsko, now called: Żeńsko). You can read sth about on English wikipedia. Search "Battle of Schoenfeld"
ChuopZeWsi 6 days ago
@ChuopZeWsi There are also mentioned some later Polish cavalry charges, of which i didn't know before.
ChuopZeWsi 6 days ago
@ChuopZeWsi Yeah that's not true, because all were annihilated and didn't achieve the success the Lighthorse did.
TheDalek555 5 days ago
I never knew world war one had cavalry charges, this is amazing!!! These men must be some of the bravest out there
thecow777 6 months ago
Contrary to popular belief, this charge by the Australian Lighthorse was the last mounted cavalry charge of modern times, unlike the Brits attesting the the Light Horse Brigade was the last charge. This event of WW1 was very trivialised as a minor event; however, was a key in gaining an upper hand in this horrid desert warfare.
jjt142612 6 months ago
Its hard to imagine charging into artillery and machine gun fire like that on horses that have gone days without water....frankly I'm amazed the horses managed to run like that given that fact.
darthroden 6 months ago
Yeah go Aussies :)
MrFreedomrequired 7 months ago
Lest we forget.
crazygrainger2006 9 months ago
"Emu"
artifexmediawa 9 months ago
What about when members of the Light Horse massacred an entire town full of women and children in modern day Iraq? It was so bad that the Australian Government paid to rebuild the town after the war.
Seems like they forgot about THAT little moment in Australian history...
TheDalek555 11 months ago
@TheDalek555 That is interesting since the ALH never entered the Iraq territory! Infact they never left the Egypt-Levant region. Iraq was still in hostile hands until the closing months of the war and then it was under joint occupation by Arab forces and British Indian Army
fp470 9 months ago
@TheDalek555 The ALH were never in Iraq mate. That little moment in history never happened. The only Aussies to serve with the British in Iraq during WW1 were a few hundred Airmen from the Australian Flying Corps. Otherwise, present your evidence please.
wattlebough 8 months ago
GREAT re-enactment of one of the GREATEST cavalry charges of all time!
Also, that charge did as much to enhance & illuminate the spectacular combat prowess & superb fighting abilities of Irish & Scottish warriors as much as it did highlight the immeasurable bravery, superhuman tenacity & customary ferocious elan' of Australian soldiers, as at least half that cavalry was of Irish or Scottish descent!
For no doubt those undaunted & determined Australian cavalrymen were the finest in the World!
sxlfkta 11 months ago
for my money this is the best film reenactment of a cavalry charge ever.Great movie.
MartinRVUK 11 months ago
can i get this on DVD?
itubeyoublah 1 year ago
The Turk has always been respected here in Australia. As well as the comments by Attaturk re the Australian fallen, there was one instance where the Australians were charging the Turkish positions at The Nek during the Gallipoli campaign where the Australians were cut down by Turkish guns in a futile charge, the Turkish officer was yelling out "No more, No more" to the oncoming Australians.
6567andy 1 year ago 2
Turks with Krupp Cannons and Mauser Guns with German Officers versus Aussies with Bayonets. I´m German but I´d known what to bet! What a Charge!
ThePretorian72 1 year ago 4
That's my Aussie fathers GO GO GO LIKE THE FUCKIN WIND!!! HA-HA!!!
s0052701 1 year ago
Rommel said that an Australian charge with fixed bayonets was one of the bravest and most terrifying events he ever witnessed - he also said he could have taken the world with just a division of aussies, german tactics and american logistics.
March6371 1 year ago
@March6371 Where did he say that?
TheDevilsBusiness 1 year ago
@TheDevilsBusiness - There are many Rommel quotes regarding Aussie soldiers...here's another.
the Rats of Tobruk Association received a letter from Rommel’s son, Manfred, “My father said the Australian infantry belonged to the best troops on both sides he had seen during his military career. It was due to their professional soldiership that the Germans and Italians could not take Tobruk during the summer of 1941.
“God bless you.”
March6371 1 year ago
@March6371 I am not doubting you, I am asking where that was written down so I could read it.
TheDevilsBusiness 1 year ago
@March6371 So true, so true! Though of course such ferocity, lust for blood & enthusiasm for close quarter combat had much to do with their Irish & Scottish ancestry! For the Irish & the Scots, their far off descendents in other lands (such as Australia & Canada), & the Gurkhas & the Maori warriors were no doubt the finest & fiercest fighting men on the planet for centuries! For at least half those cavalrymen upon which the above clip was depicting were definitely of Irish & Scottish descent!
sxlfkta 11 months ago
My Great Grandfather was in the 12th light horse. I'm very proud to have that in my family history. Mum says that he didn't speak much of it, only that the sound of bullets wizzing past ones head was a great sound, because if you could hear them they weren't impeded in your scone. You never hear the one that gets ya!
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danyboy79a 1 year ago
The Aussies I've seen in London these days seem to be gay and enjoy crying a lot.
adebarde1 1 year ago
@adebarde1 i'll give ya that once where strong now
politiclly corect
grunt182820 1 year ago
@adebarde1 Seems they hang out in the same gay bars you frequent hay mate?
ssaltmer 1 year ago
@adebarde1 We deported all the poofs back to England mate.
Zinnggg!
semtex84 1 year ago
@semtex84
Hahahahaha. Gold!!!
samjag70 1 year ago
A great movie but the crack about the "silly bloody poms" seems totally unnecessary and just another typical anti-british comment so prevalent in australian war movies regardless if it was historically correct or not. (yes, there were instances of muderous british incompetance). these men were charging directly into the guns so its obvious who were firing at them.
thebookbinder 1 year ago
@thebookbinder well you poms used us as shock troops all through the war...our casualties dropped significantly when we were given leadership of our own troops, as did our effectiveness.
Boothzor 1 year ago
@Boothzor Few observations. Firstly the term 'shock troop' was a post war invention. The Australian formations of the British Army 1914-1919 were, generally, a more elite formation along with the Canadians and a number of other UK based Units. It is not until 1917 that Australian formations gain enough experience to become deemed 'elite.' Prior to then it was often a case of us just being bad at soldiering and command. Monash was a superior leader to the previous commanders rather than a ...
fp470 1 year ago
@fp470 He didn't say they CALLED us shock troops he said they USED us as shock troops
PS:I'd rather have an Aussie over a pom anyday.
ozzyguy67 1 year ago
@ozzyguy67 On the Western Front, to an extent, Australians played a shock troop role, that I would conceed. However there were other elite formations that did the same.
fp470 1 year ago
@Boothzor ...a cannon fodder mindset within the British Army. On the contrary they were always cocerned about high levels of wastage of Dominon troops since politically they might leave the war.
This video is a different campaign altogether, it is the Middle Eastern theatre. The British Authorities valued the Anzac troops from the start (since they made up most of the Mounted Division and later Australian Mounted Division).
In this campaign we were not shock troops
fp470 1 year ago
@thebookbinder
you guys really dont have a sence of humour or understanding of australains do you?
metube1120 1 year ago
@thebookbinder Cry me a river, your generals were evil cowards who should be hung, do some research before talking shit.
ozzyguy67 11 months ago
@ozzyguy67 "...your generals were evil cowards who should be hung,..." Hung? I think you mean hanged.
ornitorrinco01 8 months ago
@ornitorrinco01 glad to know some of us can still spell..
boazandjiacinth 7 months ago
"They are below the guns"
Only the get chopped by machine guns' hail of bullets and rifles firing in volleys ...
Hardly what could be called successful, huh ?
Briselance 1 year ago
@Briselance Hey mate, they captured the town and the Turks panicked. Their machine guns where in reality silenced by British Artillery, which the film doesn't show. Out of 800 Aussies that charged the Turks, only 31 were killed, which by WW1 standards was miraculous, and they captured over 4000 Turkish troops. So yeah, it was successful.
wattlebough 1 year ago
@wattlebough
"Out of 800 Aussies that charged the Turks, only 31 were killed, which by WW1 standards was miraculous"
Indeed. It's a success. And a huge one. But still, as some other youtubers said before me, hadn't the Turk infantrymen forgot to adjust their rifles' sights, the Australian casualties would have been much higher.
What I meant is that, no matter how successfull this charge was, the days of cavalry charges were over because of tanks, field guns, machine guns, planes, etc.
Briselance 1 year ago
Absolutely magnificent. It wasn't "the last succesful Cavalry charge in the history of modern warfare' though. That would have been squadrons of the Free Polish army fighting with the Russians in Pomerania in 1945. The last large scale cavalry charge was by the Savoy Regiment (Italian) against Russian positions in 1942. The last charge by commonwealth forces was the sikhs of the Burma Field Force under Captain Sandeman at Toungoo in 1942.
grassic 1 year ago
@grassic Depends what you mean by Large Scale, the Russians on their advance to Berlin got in some decent charges also. The Last Cavalry Charge i am aware of, other than 3rd world conflicts, was in 1971 in the Portugal-Angloa war where Dragoons actually broke Rebel forces.
fp470 1 year ago
@fp470 That's fascinating, I didn't know about Angola. Do you have a link or sources for that? I'd love to see them, almost all sources I've seen seem to agree that there really hasn't been a serious cavalry charge since 1945, which was the Poles in the last stages of the war. The charge of the Savoy against the Russians was 3 batallion strong making it regimental level, I don't believe there has been a regimental level charge since then.
grassic 1 year ago
@grassic Ian Jones 'A Thousand Miles of Battles', 2007 about the Australian Light Horse mentions it. Sadly I no longer have the book (leant it to someone) so I cant give you a page. Websearching revealed a bit but not in English. Probably the tendency to Western Historians to obsess over WW2 and a Anglo-American & German centric view of 20th Century conflict is why it is unknown. I believe it was a regiment, but 'regemento' is about the extent of my Portuguese. Let me know if you find anything
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grassic 1 year ago
@fp470 Thanks that's really interesting. I didn't know anyone was using horses post 50s. I read Spanish so I can often get the gist of written Portuguese, I'll see what I can find. i don't suppose you know the name of the regiment or any dates?
grassic 1 year ago
@grassic Sadly no. I foung it odd too, that a Western Nation would use horses past the 50s- but I suppose Angola as a back water with jungle and no infrastructure might make it viable. 1970-71 Is only date I am aware of andduring the Angolan war. I think they were called Angolan Dragoons- but were Portuguse in nationality.
fp470 1 year ago
@fp470 I found out quite a lot but no real details. The Angolan Dragoons certainly took part in operations in the 70s. Did they actually charge? No one seems to know. Technically they were Mounted Infantry rather than cavalry which suggests they shot at the enemy rather than close engagement. Grey's Scouts in Rhodesia supposedly charged as late as 76. They were not large units, the Dragoons no more than 3 squadrons so not comparable to the Lighthorse or Savoy charges.
grassic 1 year ago
@grassic Well all I can say is that apparenlty they did charge according to the source. Although be careful of confusing Mounted Infantry with Mounted Rifles, Jean Bou in his latest book highlights the difference. Also keep in mind two things
1. Dragoons were always intended as a form of mounted firepower- not mounted infantry- that had facility to charge.
2. The 1880s reforms in many Countries redefined cavalry to fill a more dragoon like role as 'mounted rifles' and traditional cavalry
fp470 1 year ago
@fp470 ok I accept all that. The issue is simply that there seems to be a lack of information and a LOT of debate on the subject. My feeling is that Cavalry had had its day by the Great War and the last significant cavalry actions were isolated instances in WW2. Beyond that it seems only to have been viable in late colonial skirmishes eg Kenya 1953 Angola and Rhodesia in the 70s. The Afghan Alliance is still using cavalry today and I hear even "charging" though information is hazy
grassic 1 year ago
@grassic Cavalry as the mobile army is not necessarily an encumberance in post 45 operations. The proliferation of high fire power means that frontal charges are dangerous. Frontal charges become rarer after 1700, but cavlary live on till the early 20th century. Cavalry was always a weapon better suited to opportunity and the strategic level. Cavalry are most effectrive when pursuing a retreateing army to slow their retreat and in this role they would be effective today in SOME conflicts
fp470 1 year ago
@grassic I think maybe it is fair to say that the capture of Beersheba was the last horse mounted charge to have a decisive effect on the outcome of a military campaign, ie, the rolling up of the Turkish Army's hither to unbroken Gaza- Beersheba defensive line, and a decisive victory in the 3rd Battle of Gaza. From that point the Ottoman Turks were left no option but to retreat all the way to Alleppo in Syria, and surrender, permanently losing their Empire under the Treaty of Versailles.
wattlebough 1 year ago
@wattlebough I think that is fair to say. The only comparable subsequent charge, that I have been able to verify thus far is the charge of the Savoy on the Don and that only had a very local effect on the campaign. Beersheba, as you say, was far more significant strategically and thus is more than simply a historical curio. incidentally, Amedeo Guillett who led cavalry against the British in Somaliland (and double charged a British column) just died last month a brave and honourable man
grassic 1 year ago
@grassic
Amedeo Guillett ... another veteran goes away. R.I.P. :-(
Briselance 1 year ago
@wattlebough The advance to Jerusalem was greatly assisted by cavalry, both Australian and British. The Turks were reforming but a number of cavalry charges prevented them from digging into the area-In the Damascus operation the ALH and British Cavalry also charged a number of positions and it was one of these charges that took Damascus before Lawrence of Arabia, prompting Ottoman Surrender on 1918. Beersheba did not lead to Ottoman Surrender but a major Ottoman Setback.
fp470 1 year ago
@fp470 All true mate bar Damascus, which was captured with barely a shot fired. Officially Lawrence & his Northern Arab Army got credit for it's capture, for political reasons relating to Sykes-Picot Treaty, but what you referred to was Major Olden of the 10th ALH Regt accepting surrender from the Mayor of Damascus before Lawrence showed up in his shiny pearl blue Rolls Royce, complete with Lewis gun mounted on front passenger side, 3 hours later. The Turks were finally destroyed at Megiddo
wattlebough 1 year ago
One of the most courageous acts in history. Australians have true grit, tenacity and the fortitude to succeed at all costs, a trait the Diggers still have to this day. God bless the Aussies.
waynejingo 1 year ago
Go Australia!
Jameslockhart8 1 year ago
man this is crazy !
MrJapaneseboy1111 1 year ago
When an israeli (mostly old folk from jerusalem) wants to pay a compliment to other man
for being generous jolly and all to all a stand up man they call him an "australian"
when they want to point out that a man is a snob a stuck up idiot who thinks he is royalty they call him "a brit".
cruel and cold blooded : "nazi" or "german".
MrJapaneseboy1111 1 year ago
@MrJapaneseboy1111 That's a nice compliment, i also agree somewhat with the 'old folks' disdain of the English. My only worry is that of the recent passport saga, Israel must not do that 2 Australia, we (try 2 be) a neutral country & a good friend of Israel, hopefully this will not happen again - even if a cruel man must die...
hirolahmanagement 1 year ago
@hirolahmanagement if you may i would like you to tell me what pasporrts are the
ASIS agents are using on their work undercover in foreign countries?
australian perhaps??! LOL
MrJapaneseboy1111 1 year ago
@MrJapaneseboy1111 haha : P maybe? I dont know these things... Look my only concern is Australia & Isreal r friends but as a small populace nation, with a lot of territory & a shit_ of resources Australia must be careful, the Chinese are doing their 'utmost' to purchase whatever resource companies they can down under, if one day 'heaven forbid' we r attacked our army would last a maximum of 10 hrs, thats it, Australia has fought in so many wars (4 peace) we cant allow any bllshit 2 come our way
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@hirolahmanagement
i agree BUT !
i dont understand how can brits australian american and all the rest of the countries in NATO can criticize israel for protecting their land from the muslims while their own armies are fighting million miles away on foreign land cusing more collateral damage then the iraelis ever did in all the war they fought put together.
MrJapaneseboy1111 1 year ago
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@hirolahmanagement i agree BUT !
i dont understand how can brits australian american and all the rest of the countries in NATO can criticize israel for protecting their land from the muslims while their own armies are fighting million miles away on foreign land cusing more collateral damage then the iraelis ever did in all the war they fought put together.
MrJapaneseboy1111 1 year ago
@hirolahmanagementand and you must agree with me that sending a hit sqwad to eliminate 1 terrorists is much more effective then sending ALL OF NATO spending billions killing thousands and losing thousand and still NOT getting ur man(osama).
israelis turend war into an art and i must say that they are the first ones adjusting their tactics to the modern battlefield
MrJapaneseboy1111 1 year ago
@hirolahmanagement i have a growing feeling in me that israel is just a small moddel scale exampel for the future of the civilized world.
i cant help not to think that the fate of israel will be the fate of humanity.
9/11,mumbai india,paris subway,madrid subway,london,nigeria,thailand attacks,glasgow airport,beslan school are just the beginning.
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@MrJapaneseboy1111 "i would like you to tell me what pasporrts are the ASIS agents are using on their work undercover in foreign countries?"
Yes quite possibly they are not using Australian passports, but I doubt they would not be using Israeli passports either. Also I am not aware of ASIS using foreign passports while carrying out high profile assassinations that end up all over the world media.
ornitorrinco01 8 months ago
And more...
"The title ANZAC indicated its composite Australian and New Zealand nature and as such was possibly the first official use of this term for this purpose, rather than as a designation for an army corps."
SapperK9 1 year ago
@SapperK9 You really should not quot wikpedia. The ANZAC mounted Division included correctly Australian and NewZealand mounted rifles brigades, botht the Australian Light Horse and teh New Zealand Mounted Rifles. It also included attached UK units and eventually would stranglely enough also include attached French units. The force was actually a form of cavarly known as Mounted Rifles as opposed to mounted infantry.
fp470 1 year ago
Wikipedia...
"The ANZAC Mounted Division was a mounted infantry (light horse) division formed in March 1916 in Egypt during World War I following the Battle of Gallipoli when the Australian and New Zealand mounted regiments returned from fighting as infantry. For the remainder of the war it served in the Middle East, in the Sinai, Palestine and Syria."
SapperK9 1 year ago
Kemal Attaturk on ANZACs:
"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours.. You the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears. Your sons are now living in our bosom and are in peace. Having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
SapperK9 1 year ago
About 3 years ago, there was a reenactment of the battle here in Beer-Sheva, with authentic equipment and costumes(and horses), Emo feathers on the hats and all. I was told that some of the participants were relatives of those who actually took part in the real battle. It is great to see that the people who fought in that battle are remembered and cherished, even though some of them are burried half a world away from thier homeland.
SDK2584 1 year ago 15
@SDK2584 That's very nice, but I can't stop laughing at the "Emo Feathers" comment.
StrangelyBrownNo1 1 year ago 7
@StrangelyBrownNo1 LOL! I meant the bird. The lighthorsemen put those on their hats, one of them explained it to me. it resembles the unit's fighting spirit, cuz the bird can't walk backwards.
SDK2584 1 year ago
@StrangelyBrownNo1 I prefer the authentic horses.
matteus11 1 year ago
@SDK2584 a tye o me thinks emu
grunt182820 1 year ago
To Kampfkauz, yes this is based on tthe actual attack by the Australian Lighthorse.
US calvary had similar result in WW1.
sfdeliveries76 1 year ago
@sfdeliveries76 The Australian Light Horse was not cavalry, it was mounted infantry. And nobody, but no bugger freed the Well of the Covenant of Abraham, other an ANZAC LighthorseMEN.
SapperK9 1 year ago
@SapperK9 The Australian Light Horse were actually a form of cavarly called mounted rifles. The only Australian Mounted Infantry of WW1 were the Imperial Camel Corps. ALH are a form of cavalry in their; organisation, equipment and tactical use. They lack the fire power of mounted infantry. In 1918 they are upgraded to full cavarly by being issued with swords
fp470 1 year ago
@SapperK9 Actually they were Australian Light Horse. ANZAC only covers integrated AUStralian and New Zealand units. The Light Horse at Beersheba were Australian only.
Prod1Kh 1 year ago
@Prod1Kh No. Search for the "Anzac Mounted Division"...
SapperK9 1 year ago
@SapperK9 With a name like Sapper I'd expect you to know the difference between a division and a regiment.
Prod1Kh 1 year ago
how funny... a few horses against a watercooled machinegun... the cavalry wins... is this based on a true story?
Kampfkauz 1 year ago
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@Kampfkauz "how funny... a few horses against a watercooled machinegun"
I am glad you like a laugh. In practice the Strines had brains as well as bottle. There wasn't any barbed wire to slow them up and they were moving so fast that the Turks didn't have a chance to sight there weapons properly. As a result the Australian losses were fairly light.
oarfrost 1 year ago
@Kampfkauz Yes this was a true event and this movie was made to be very historically accurate. THe attack unfolded in this manner. This clip does lack the lead up that explains/depicts how the attack was able to work.
fp470 1 year ago
@Kampfkauz - The funny thing is, most of the weapons that the Turks dropped while running away were found to have the incorrect adjustments to the sights. So the machine guns - water-cooled or otherwise - would have been firing over the heads of the charge. The reason the sights were set incorrectly? The Turks pissed their pants when the Lighthorse charged instead of dismounting...I've spent 6 years in the Aust Army, and there are some crazy bastards who would probably charge on skates.
March6371 1 year ago 2
Teufelsnachbar667 : "Even if they are Turks?" Apologise. Now. The Turks have been great warriors for centuries and had the utmost respect from the troops on the Australian side who fought against them. Have YOU every fought with or against Turkish Soldiers? Have you reflected on the magnificent generosity of Turkish authorities from Ataturk on in commerorating Australian fallen as if their own ? Thought not. YOU DISHONOUR AUSTRALIAS DEAD. Apologise. NOW.
dm3830 1 year ago
Probably the last sucsessfull large scale cavalry charge in history.
It taks lots of balls to attack fieldguns, mgs and infantry in trenches in a frontal attack (even if they are turks)
Teufelsnachbar667 1 year ago
Of cause the Aussies won, they all come from English backgrounds.
markrjg 1 year ago
@markrjg haha typical pom when we do something u dont like were convicts and when we do something good were from a british background
cadam007 1 year ago
@cadam007 , What are you on about ? I love Australia, I have been there 4 times to visit my brother in Perth. The thing I cannot stand is the so-called hard men in Oz who think they are better than the English. The real Aussies are the black fellows.
markrjg 1 year ago
No wonder the Aussies won the Turks spoke with an Australian accent
markrjg 1 year ago
@Doodaddaman Of course we managed to do everything the Brits couldnt, Look at the HMAS AE2, Got inside the Sea of marmara where 2 british Subs failed to do, While there sinking several ships, And when she was unfit for combat, Went on to appear and disappear causing panic and confusion for Turks =)
69sexdemon69 1 year ago
Go lighthorsemen
bpiotrAgain 1 year ago
thats it everyone slag off tha brits. yer bunch a gashes.
daveyRIR 1 year ago
ulster division woulda took in 2 hours, an on foot.
daveyRIR 1 year ago
@Doodaddaman dont be a gash, yer ignorant twonk.
daveyRIR 1 year ago
A beautifull charge, the movie is rather nationalistic tho...
DeLachendeWolf 1 year ago
@DeLachendeWolf No this is very much a representation of the actual events. They tried to make the movie very realistic, more so than the earlier attempt '40,000 Horseman'
fp470 1 year ago
I see it yesterday on free TV nice Film!
SirAceMcFly 1 year ago
I agree. The British Officers treated the Commonwealth troops like dirt. That probably made them want to show what they were capable of. Those men were the hardest men that WW1 produced.
cf80to01 2 years ago
Where the phrase "under the gun" came from. The artillery can only fire so low, once under the gun the shells went over them and landed harmlessly to the rear.
mrmott44 2 years ago
anybody notice aussie war movies from the 80's where like the only ones in that time period that used the shakey cam really well
minablock 2 years ago
US special forces / Northern Alliance made several successful cavalry charges on Taliban positions in Afghanistan in 2002.
mrmott44 2 years ago
but was it as desperate as this one
minablock 2 years ago
US Green Berets and Navy SEAL teams were on horseback alongside the Northern Alliance against Taliban. US satellite communications and smart bombs/drones were directed from horseback. Like all real War, land must be taken and keot--that can only happen from the ground.
mrmott44 2 years ago
you mean tanks
ozzyguy67 2 years ago
as a british squaddie who has served with the modern day ANZACS, that fighting spirit still exists today. god bless ya all...
bexterbum 2 years ago 7
im a member of the 14th/19th light horse and im proud to be amongst its ranks
mad0911 2 years ago 9
@mad0911 - my Grandfather was with the 10th Lighthorse, snuck onboard at 15 years old...and was signed up when discovered halfway there.
March6371 1 year ago
The movie is exactly true. I couldn't find the single mistake. And I know what's I'm writing about - I was writing the article about the battle - for the magazine. one thing is wrong - Turcks speaking english - but it's for the movie needs, understood then.
tomenicus 2 years ago
I envy you Aussies for being able to make such outstanding war movies .......(Horsemen, Gallipoli, The odd angry shot). Well done.
cf80to01 2 years ago
Is that sarcasm?
The Odd Angry Shot is terrible (but necessary watching).
demonictruism 2 years ago
Sorry, that was not meant as sarcasm. I actually enjoyed it. Bear in mind I live in Canada and was just getting into military history in 79 when Odd Angry Shot came out. Up here we are so bombarded by US TV that it actually came as a shock to me that the US had any allies in Viet Nam (other than the South Vietnamese). A lot of studying and many years later, I still love the movie and think the Australians are some of the finest soldiers to ever walk this earth.
cf80to01 2 years ago
That's an honour to hear.
Bear in mind Canada has produced some excellent soldiers also, including some divisions with great reputation for assault in WWI and the PPCLI who served alongside the 3 Battalion at Kapyong with whom Royal Australian Regiment still holds ties.
demonictruism 2 years ago 2
It is a nice change to meet someone on youtube who has respect for the militaries of other countries. It seems most spend all their time calling down their allies. I don't get it.
Unfortunately the Canadian military does not get the respect it deserves, at home or abroad. That does seem to be changing a little with the operations in Afghanistan, but it is one hell of a price being paid for it.
cf80to01 2 years ago
Use of Lepeord C2s in Afghanistan is held up as a textbook example of the use of armour in counterinsurgency.
Perhaps it's just in Canda that the Candian infantry is underrated?
demonictruism 2 years ago
Funny you should say that... in Canada the majority of people, when polled, want the CF to return to it's roots as a peacekeeping force. Of course, the majority of Canadians have no idea what the CF has done since the end of WW2, nor do they realize that the best peacekeepers are those most well trained to fight a war. When the PPCLI fought a major engagement in the Medac Pocket in the Balkans, it was kept secret from the public for years, for fear they see the Canadian soldier as a war fighter.
cf80to01 2 years ago
i have heard a bit of the canadians
since i am a curios 14 yr old i look up a lot of stuff
i am not sure but it was ww1 the battle of passencheale or some german name like that?
:S
it was very interesting i never knew the Canadians where in ww1
minablock 2 years ago
@minablock yes the canucks are part of the commonwelth you should hold your country proud from then till now canada has always been in the fight
grunt182820 2 years ago
If you really want to understand what the Canadians were capable of in WW1, check out "Vimy Ridge". There is no movie, just Youtube clips or books. Most Canadians are terribly embarrassed by our military heritage for some reason. That is another thing that impresses me about the Aussies..... you embrace your military heritage, you don't hide from it.
cf80to01 2 years ago 5
why would tehy be embarrassed they have some of the best skills i have seen
i have watched a few documentary's.
minablock 2 years ago
Embarrassed was probably the wrong word..... most Canadians simply don't know or care about their military heritage.
As for the Canadians and Australians, when they were out of the line, the British high command tried to keep them separated as they tended to get into brawls with each other. When put into the line for an assault, the Canadians would request the Australians be placed on their flank, since they knew they could be trusted to meet their objectives. Good on ya, Australia!
cf80to01 2 years ago
One Australian who was dazed after having his horse shot from under him, recovered to find his five attackers with their hands up, waiting to be taken prisoner.
just goes to show how feared we were.
ozzyguy67 2 years ago
Indeed...... I think us "colonials" had a lot to prove. That made the Dominion troops the best there were during WW1. If we had larger populations in 1914, the ANZACs and Canucks could have taken over the world!
cf80to01 2 years ago
sure would :)
ozzyguy67 2 years ago
there was a canadian war film which I saw some weeks ago called passchendale. It was uploaded by some canadian user. it wasnt such a bad film at all mate.
MrMattias87 2 years ago
@cf80to01 Because the US is the military Force of North America
Canada is a Coward who will no longer defend the peace of forigen lands they lost their will to fight for some reason Mexicans are always ready for war among themsealves
GERMANYisStrong 11 months ago
@GERMANYisStrong I always love a response from an American who only watches FoxNews. Canada is fighting side by side with Americans in Afghanistan. You probably are not aware, but that is a foreign land. Also, statistically, Canadians have lost more soldiers than anyone else in Afghanistan. Here is another shocker for you.... the 9/11 terrorists did not (NOT A SINGLE ONE) enter the USA from Canada. Stop watching FoxNews.
cf80to01 11 months ago
@cf80to01 I am German And From Germany you soldiers deserve to die for their imperialist ambitions to deny the Rights of the Free Afghani people. And when you send 3 guys to do no fighting and one dies that is a 33% casualty rate
GERMANYisStrong 11 months ago
@GERMANYisStrong You are "German and from Germany" yet your homepage says you are American. You are full of shit. Go troll somewhere else while you shovel KFC down your gob.
cf80to01 11 months ago 2
@cf80to01 The little snot GermanyisStrong is a neo-nazi. Look at the comments he's left on other videos glorifying the Nazis.
kaysandesses 8 months ago
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jjt142612 6 months ago
@GERMANYisStrong so your a german from....germany! Fuck mate...clearly a dumb cunt as well
mbarbram 3 months ago
if you like our war movies you should watch one called kokoda.
it about the kokoda track/trail.
minablock 2 years ago
Thanks for the info! I looked at a few minutes of Kokoda on youtube and it seems like another excellent film. I will now try and find a way to see it from beginning to end. Thanks again.
cf80to01 2 years ago
no problem
minablock 2 years ago
i hate when movies make it look like the german fighting men were incompetent fools like this. they were some of the best trained soldiers in the world.
panzerdragoonSS 2 years ago
How does it? This is pretty much how it happened, you want bias read the Turkish account- they make you look stupid. Even Von Kressenstein account lines up with this.
Also the Soldiers are Ottoman only the artillery and some machine guns services were Austrian and German.
fp470 2 years ago
They're not German they're Turks. Some of their officers were German advisers.
gnarkillkicksass 2 years ago
This is one of my fav war movies of all time, the characters are incredible. There is an actual photo of this charge and the movie replicates the look exactly! This movie was made by real fans and experts on this subject.
HWKTheDrake 2 years ago
"They are not cavary, they are Australian Light-Horsemen"
The sheer audacity of those Aussies in this attack scared the crap out of both the allied and German commands.
See Breaker Morant (also by Wier and Gammage) for the beginning of the Aussie break fom Brit Mil command.
JeremyPCresswell 2 years ago
why not do a pincer movement instead of charging right into machine gun range, what a waste!
gmspeedfreak 2 years ago
Its an enclosed position and manpower on that flank was problematic. The usual tactic was to dismount and advance, a tactics which succeeded in other parts of the line that day with light casualties for ANZAC mnted column. The charge had very few casualties of the 800 that charged. Tactically it was an okay move since the enemy were being suppressed by artillery fire also.Thus why the Turks are seen entering the trenches-they had been hiding in sheltars but moved into the trenches
fp470 2 years ago
That is why the Wellington and Auckland mounted infantry dismounted and took the enfilading machine guns & artillery on the hill on the right flank, with Brit mounted yeomanry in reserve.
Beersheba was the 2nd to last SUCCESSFUL cavalry charge, which used a combo of Cav and Mounted Infantry tactics. Other recent so-called Cav charges, were mounted I incursions, NOT Cav charges. The last succesful Cav charge was the battle of Krojanty 1/9/1939 where the Pole lancers diverted German panzers.
JeremyPCresswell 2 years ago
Well there were more cavarly charges before and after this event. The ALH were a form of cavarly known as mounted rifles as by 1900 the British cavarly doctrine was supposed to have cavarly taking up firepower or shock tactics depending on the circumstance. Also in 1918 the ALH are finally armed with swords. Cavarly usually are professional and thus are taught more compex drills. THe ALH have to gain experience otherwise gained by years of practice. The NZMR didnt adopt swords however.
fp470 2 years ago
Finally the last difference is armament. Mounted rifles are just that, guys with rifles only. They do have a machine gun section attached but its small, 3-4 mgs. Also only one Lewis gun to cover one regiment (this is later updated to 4 hotckiss mgs). Whilst Mounted Infantry ( camel corps) have 8 maxim guns in brigade, each battalion has 12 lewis guns and alot greater rifle strenght only 1 in 16 needed as camel holder compared to 1 in 4 for ALH and NZMR
fp470 2 years ago
There were succesfull cavalry Charges in WWII, so why is it called so?
berlinSS 2 years ago
WEll neither the film, nor should most ( i stress most) Australians maintain it as the last cavarly charge. Hell a friend of mine's village got attacked by cavarly in 2000 or 1999.
I think everyone wants the prestige of being the last cavarly charge.
fp470 2 years ago