Louis Vierne - Carillon de Westminster

[mallard4998]

stupendous,exhilerating peice of music...absolutley wonderful!!!

[bfs1888]

i like this guy,,,a little stuck on himself,,,,but he's good,,,and good looking!

[christianvs1]

Ghastly accoustic...... but flawless performance! Thanks.

[TheOrgelix]

Diese Werk ist wunderbar. Und dann noch von einem meiner Favouriten gespielt. Einfach toll. Es ist ja recht amüsant zu betrachten wie er das Pedal ''streichelt''.

[Maisonfeuspectateur]

This concert has been performed in Budapest, MüPa (Művészetek Palotája - Palace Of Arts). This is not written (enough) in the description, pls. vote up!

[Organgrinder1010]

@Maisonfeuspectateur Thank you for this information. I didn't recognize the organ or the facility.

[keenanchris1]

youtube dot com / watch?v=c7S4Td10A5w

my version of the carillon

[WhyBBill]

 I heard Carillon de Westminster performed in December 2004 in St.Paul's Cathedral in London. Absolutely incredible.

[MuSAH2010]

Its great. Thank you for this video. Where is this organ?

[robertgift]

Well, Youtube removed the spaces I placed between the groups of notes.

These are NOThe Westminster Chime notes.

These portray the notes/intervals.

1st: A,G,F,C

half: F,A,G,C... F,G,A,F

3rd: A,F,G,C... C,G,A,F... A,G,F,C

Hour: F,A,G,C... F,G,A,F... A,F,G,C... C,G,A,F

Unfortunate thathis recording cuts off too soon athend.

[chamade216]

@robertgift Allegedly Vierne missheard the line when he improvised this in Notre-Dame. Or his friend hummed for him the westminster chimney's song

[robertgift]

@chamade216 Did someone not write down and bring the melody to Vierne?

Was this an IMPROVISATION? ! Wow! -if it was.

[chamade216]

@robertgift Yes. Vierne improvised this piece as a last piece of at his concert in Notre-Dame, and laster he wrote it down, he was given this theme but he didn't know the theme at that time.

[robertgift]

@chamade216 INCREDIBLE!

How much did this composition differ from the original improvisation?

Amazing.

Thank you.

[SelvesteDovregubben]

@robertgift He was blind, so it wouldn't actually matter if someone wrote it down to him..

[robertgift]

@SelvesteDovregubben Often,otes are told to the blind organist.

"MUPA"?

Unfortunate thathis is not a LIVE location.

[GiaoSuSW]

@chamade216 The title "Westminster Chimney's song" rings a bell (I beg your pardon), but I cannot recall the song.

"Westminster Chimney's song" led me to think of the Gunpowder Plot, but that does not really fit. It would have to be the "Westminster Cellar's song" (I beg your pardon again).

So, can you help me out? What is the "Westminster Chimney's song"?

[maxouf1]

@robertgift I can't agree, you hear the theme reversed at begining, but it is made to come to the good "direction" of the notes at 3rd time

[Deamus110]

Sehr schön!

Vielen Dank!

[elainebmack]

What a magnificent piece and playing to match. BRAVO!

[eameece]

Theme song for my radio show Mystic Music for 24 years.

[1401JSC]

Melbourne University Psychology Association?

[silverstartrucker]

Prefer the version by Virgil Fox on the Wanamaker

[barmano666]

4:52 - ..........

zawodostwo

[duodecyma]

REWELACJA!!!

[all1rog]

Superb playing: even WITH the music, I can't manage it!

[badon20]

It's really not that hard. I thought the same as you. I learned it in 2 months.

[all1rog]

I'll try again, then. I've always been OK with his Finale from Symphony 1!

[Guilloufan]

very and very good, one of the best organist in the world!! but is it an electronic organ ??

[Orgelduedler]

Nope, look, theres a console under that pipes, which is lightened

[Guilloufan]

yes, I saw! magnificent organ, I have to say that!

[joeyboi87]

although then again it is really the drawstops that are the fancier of the two although the better!!

[joeyboi87]

what a fantastic recording although the console is hideous!

[dgsouter]

I rather like the contemporary look of this moveable stage console. I understand it was designed to match the curving lines of the modernistic architecture of the building. Most organ consoles, especially 5-manuals are usually just big, ugly boxes. This one at least has a unique style. Oh, well...I guess beauty's in the eye...:-)

[glevantino]

i agree- draw knobs have always worked in the past, why start making fancy buttons?

[joeyboi87]

Indeed they have and they should continue to do so!!!

[organist12345]

the first good thing youve said on a youtube organ video!

[joeyboi87]

what are you talking about?

[fastmotorcyclefast]

To Chamade 216. Thank you, carry on!

[dgsouter]

This Pecs/Muhleisen organ is in the Bela Bartok Concert Hall of the new Palace of Arts in Budapest. The latest issue of the North American organ periodical THE DIAPASON has a very informative two-page feature article on the design, construction and specifications of this wonderful new instrument.

[somethingjane8]

a great piece of music played in about the most boring manner possible. Somebody take Latry off auto pilot.

[organpipe8]

BEAUTIFUL Thank You for posting and sharing with us. GOD BLESS

[soprano2k]

Fantastique!  Formidable!

One of my absolute favorite organ pieces.

What a pleasure to hear it executed so beautifully and with so much life.

Thanks for posting this, chamade216!

[chamade216]

ok:-)

[Rui02Senor]

I am sure Vierne would be happy hearing Latry...

[thelastmusician]

Latry is one of the best organ player I've ever listened to.

I listened to a concert in Italy and I remember his fantastic ability.

[vinniecaruso]

such great compositions for a man born virtually blind.

[musicien91]

Encore une pièce masacrée par un orgue de salle. En fait c'est "boring": il ne se passe rien. Est ce la faute de l'orgue ou de l'organiste?

[ds1868]

Another fine performance from Olivier Latry. Do go and listen to this piece if you can at Westminster Abbey, it is just superb on the Harrison & Harrison organ there.

[pimperneldog]

I don't believe the story about the chimes being given to Vierne the wrong way round. What is true is that he came to London to take part in the celebrations to mark the opening of the Grand Organ at Westminster Cathedral and asked Henry Willis III, the organ builder, for a theme on which to improvise. Willis gave him this but although Vierne started with a different 'quarter', the correctly ordered chime can be heard in several places through the work. It's quite wonderful!

[JOHNNYWADTON]

thus, this piece should more correctly be called a "Chime de Westminster" or "Ring of bells de Westminster" I don't know, maybe I am wrong, just my 2 cents...

[YKW2]

Or if you really want to be particular, "Carillon de lEglise Sainte Marie la Grande, Cambridge", since that is where the quarters were first used.

Great piece. Must get round to learning it.

[JOHNNYWADTON]

No man, it is not a real Carillon, read above! The parliament house in Westminster doesn't have a REAL carillon, but a belfry or clock tower! so mixing your comment with mine, it should be called "Chime de Église Sainte Marie la Grande, Cambridge" Because a chime is produced by a clock tower or belfry, not by a carillon, thus, the quarters which are here being reproduced by a belfry (westminster) are not a "carillon ringing" but a ring of bells or chime!

[YKW2]

You're quite right in that it is not a proper carillon. I merely used the term as a French translation of the word "chime", to avoid code-switching within the title. There may well be a more apt term to use.

[JOHNNYWADTON]

The apt terms are:

Clock tower or Belfry referring to the bells.

Ring of bells or chime referring to the actual sound.

When referring to a complete set of bells like posted above we use the term Carillon and when referring to the sound the Carillon produces we use the term Carillon ringing

Regards

[JOHNNYWADTON]

Superb performance! on a side note, I often wonder why Louis Vierne called this piece "Carillon de Westminster" since in fact the parliament house in Westminster doesn't have a real carillon, but a belfry or clock tower, which houses not 23 bells to make a carillon, but an A tuned "big ben" bell and 4 smaller quarter bells which together play the westminster quarters as a CHANGE RINGING not a CARILLON RINGING, so this belfry houses a ring of bells, thus making it a CHIME not a carillon

[buzzbaybear]

actually,in Germany and other Northern European countries carillons are all called glockenspiels which literally means a bell tolling clock-exactly what Westminster is (Vierne may have known this or perhaps he could not have cared less- i.e. close enough for jazz) There are many organ pieces that have the title carillon because of the brilliant bell ringing quality they evoke.

[kdh652]

In French, the word "carillon" can refer to a single clock bell or usually several tuned in harmony. So why wouldn't Vierne who is French use the original French definition, which btw preceded its borrowing by English speakers.

[n4bgw]

@kdh652 I hear the bell melody, it reminds me almost of a doorbell and of clock towers. When performed in my church, the opening melody is played with the chimes build into the organ. Wonderful piece!

[Rui02Senor]

Absolument SUPERBE !

[tallandroo]

beautiful song and played incredibly well.... the dude is playing five+ keyboards!!!! that is insanity, yet the performance is flawless. Very impressive and the song is great.

[joeyboi87]

For people living in edinburgh, oliver latry is performing at st mary's catholic cathedral and its this sunday at 7.30 I think. or it might be next week!!

[arco42uk]

Excellent performance from Latry.. I often wonder what the piece would sound like if Vierne had not made such a mistake on the Westminster chime.

[chamade216]

Hi, what do you mean on Viern's mistake?

[arco42uk]

Hi, well Vierne visited London and heard the Westminster chimes from the clock on the Palace of Westminster (The houses of Parliament)but unfortunately he wrote them down in the wrong order and translated the same error in his composition. But the piece is still a brilliant work!

[nathanfornash]

Isn't it said that someone in London actually telephoned and hummed the tune to Vierne instead, and due to the state of phones at the time (or perhaps some other factor) he got it wrong, cos you notice he gets it right in the end.

[ffiish]

He first improvised the piece at Westminster Cathedral, just down the road from the Palace of Westminster, soon after the inauguration of the new organ there. The story goes that Henry Willis hummed the tune to him just prior to Vierne improvising the piece, but he got it wrong owing to be rather nervous at meeting the great man!

[robertgift]

@chamade216 Apparently Vierne wasupplied withe wrong notes and wrote his magnificent composition base upon those notes.

The Westminster Chime:

1st quarter A,G,F,C

half F,A,G,C F,G,A,F

3rd quarter A,F,G,C C,G,A,F A,G,F,C

Hour F,A,G,C F,G,A,F A,F,G,C C,G,A,F

Years ago I planned to make corrections. But have not done anything.

[greger1]

@arco42uk Yeah, what DOES that mean?

[maxouf1]

@arco42uk There is no mistake, it's on the purpose of course. First time melody is modulated. Only after - if you have hears - you may notice it's on the good melody. It's like "Claire de Lune", it doesn't really look like this little very simple song we sing to children, it's modulated on the purpose.

[Organiste06]

What a beautiful music! I LOVE!!!

[r0g3r5m1th]

Played to perfection,a must for any organ music lover

[togoclay]

Masterful performance. What a powerful sounding organ.

[misolre]

Mi sono emozionato.

[contreposaune]

great organist!excellent and fine execution!

I give him five points!

[manteaudenuit]

Moi qui suis fascinée par la musique d'orgue depuis plus de sept ans je suis aux anges... merci !!

[kunstderfuge]

I like the pacing of this performance. Latry sure makes good use of the instrument, dead acoustics and all. The chamades might be a saving grace here, whereas at Nôtre Dame de Paris they sound like King Kong playing with metal garbage cans.

[missionaryorganist]

I travel to Budapest several times a year. I have been in other concert halls with organs that are also very dry.

But, nice performance, I enjoyed it. Also one of my favorite pieces of music.

[musicmozz]

Cela est merveilleux! Merci d'avoir envoyé cette merveilleuse chanson chamade216.

[IIIFourniture]

My favorite organ piece - the prelude piece I chose just before the processional before my lovely wife walked down the aisle at our wedding. Flawless performance. Tempo, dynamics, registration right on. This is the benchmark.

[mortner366]

Right on! I chose our wedding music as well (over 20 years ago!) and my wife's "country church family" was literally blown away! The perfect piece just before Purcell . . .

[dgsouter]

Thank you, Chamade216, for posting this video! Even with my tinny speakers, this new organ sounds (and looks) wonderful. That stage console is good looking--most five manuals are just boxy and ugly. This one has some artistry in its design. Congratulations to our Hungarian friends for having such a wonderful new instrument in their beautiful new Palace of Arts! --A friend in America.

[Reesman95]

Wonderful, wish I coulld play like you

[EellyMayClampet]

or even, spell like he.

Cheers

from,

del-boy.

[Reesman95]

Are YOu Roasting on how I spelled Could? : )

[ArmiaZbawienia]

Dear Re.,

Thank you for your response; yes, one sees that yours is merely a typographical error - one was really checking that you were awake.

.

Can you refer me to any nice organ music?

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Oh, and one more thing; there are three e's in my other name because some other Elly-May got there firstly, so techincally that too, is not a spelling error, it is a codificación. :)

Cheers.

from,

del-boy.

[Reesman95]

Dear ArmiaZbawienia I'm only 12 years old so I doubt I could refer you to a whole lot of new pieces. What you are lisyening to now is by far ONE of my favorite pieces. It seems that I should be asking you for referance to some nice organ pieces. Are you an active organist? I officialy started takeing lessons only one or two months ago.

Reesman95

[EellyMayClampet]

Dear Re.,

Thank you for your respose; are you aware that the rules for the use of You-Tube state that users must have attained the age of thirteen years.

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It seems that you admit breaching the rules; please inform a priest or police officer so that they may close down your site.

cheers.

from,

del-boy.

[chamade216]

nincsen sajnos:-(

[misi0716]

Üdv! Azt szeretném megkérdezni néncs több MÜPA-s felvételed?

[octave4]

Evidently this organ has two consoles. One asks why. What is the need for two consoles. The cost of a console this size would add at least 4 stops to the organ. Why thrwo away added stops. This must be one of those archaic "trackers" that uses electric pull downs and is - therefore - not a tracker. What a farce. Why waste the expense of trackers when it is an electric???

[andyofvermont75]

Woah, did anyone notice what appear to be "double barreled" en chamades at 5:30? Just in the trebles.

[octave4]

Reeds are practical up to high G - #56. After that things get too small to be practical. What they apparantly did was attach two flue pipes to a reed block and plugged it into the case chest instead of putting them on a separate chest inside the organ. The top end of reed stops always have 5 flue pipes for an 8' and 17 flue pipes for 4' stop

[andyofvermont75]

Ahhh.... I knew that about reed pipes, but never seen the flue trebles mounted en chamade like that. Thought maybe it was double resonators for the reeds... that would be weird! (Most 8' reed stops I've seen are actually only reeds up to C#49)

[octave4]

Right again - These are the reeds from the 1910-1960 period. The European builder have always had the 8 extra reed pipes (8') Now the US builders are doing it as well. The flue pipes outside keep continuity of sound. Jumping to inside chest changes the sound greatly to the mounted on the Chest front.

[octave4]

Has anyone noticed how dea this buildingis. Certainly not like the cathedrals where Vierne wrote the music. It hink this a bit fast but with these acoustics it has to be to make it stick together. Altogether masterful performance. Flawless. really exciting. the building ruins the organ.

[nathanfornash]

Where is this organ? That is one ugly console

[bradhorn14]

this is probably a concert hall organ, the console if its like the one in Japan, is the concert console, not sitting at the organ but a moovable/ portable console for organ recitals. it only has a select number of stops andcan be programmed to play mixtures of ranks, depending on the performer. Its not ment to be pretty, its ment to be functional.

[nathanfornash]

It's in the concert hall Muveszetek Palotaja located in Budapest, Hungary. 150 rks, 5 manuals - and yes I quite agree the console is functional, even if it is ugly.

[octave4]

Why should any organ require two consoles? Why should this console have only a few selected stops? Why should any organ not be fully finctional from any console connected to it? The Japan console is a Schuke and not designed for anything but ego.

[bradhorn14]

the organ cosole thats movable is ment for as easy access for symphony works and solo works where the standard organ console can sometimes be to complex....it just simplifies things for the performer of an orchestra...

[octave4]

Being a Master organbuilder of some 55 years experience, I am aware of about every kind of console built. None that I know omit stopa or accessories unless you have an auxiliary console controlling only one or 2 divisions. One can hardly play major works without the whole organ. One moveable console should be enough for any organ. At 60 to 100.000 each it seems quite a waste to have two consoles doing the same job - controlling the organ.

[dgsouter]

Actually I think that stage console is rather handsome and sculptural. I like its pleasing curved lines and very usual bowed out sides. Most 5-manual organ consoles are just big boxes. Now this one has some art to it!

[Schalmey8]

i think specially the pedal sounds good...

[GBJPhotoWorks]

A great performance of a great piece of music. Vierne can make me cry, and never moreso than this piece. I've always believed one can hear Vierne's blindness is this piece, a beautiful sound-picture of nighttime in the streets of Westminster. Bravo.

[tallandroo]

incredible

[robertgift]

Wonderful video. But what is MUPA? Please, always: WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, ORGAN MAKE, etc., so easy to include. Sad about dead accoustics. Horrible flaw. So important for glorius organ sound.

[octave4]

Get used to it. More & More architects design Bldgs to suit their ego not for music to be played. Higher up on this site is description of where and who built it. That console may be "Functions but UGLY. Why not traditional???

[2468HOTROD]

I think the best recording of this piece is from a CD entitled 'Organ Showpieces from St. Paul's Cathedral'. The organist is Andrew Lucas. CD#  8.550955 on the Naxos label. A wonderful recording for people like me that like French music. Check it out!

[twamley]

Thank you for putting this video on, I love this piece, and what a performance!awsome, is probably the wrong word but it will do for now!

[liget]

the orgab was built bei mühleisen. a southern german organ builder. the had a hard time with the acoustics, because the cloth swallows all the bass.

[erzhaler]

It would be nice to know where is the MUPA , and also who is the builder of the organ.

[Audinos]

MUPA is the Müvészetek Palotája (Palace of Arts) in Budapest, Hungary. I don't know who built the organ, but the console looks somewhat like a Walcker.

[0u4zueha]

may I help you with this?

w w w ' mupa ' hu nemzetihangversenyterem ' jsp

/sorry for the link, but the software engeneers at youtube are either so intelligent, or so paranoid to block my trials/

[chamade216]

As far as I know late in his life Vierne started to exploit the C-C# structure of the Notre-Dame organ.

This might be the reason Mr. Latry uses different accords from the printed version of the sheet. Did Anyone notice

the more disharmonic accords from 5:51 in this record in the left hand. Unfortunately it cannat be seen. I'm curious what are these accords.

[robertgift]

I did not hear unusual chords at 5:51. I'll try to wear headphones to hear more detail when I get home.

What do you mean, "exploit the C/C# structure"? Thank you.

[chamade216]

As far as I know the old Vierne liked to compose works which are based on the C-C# pipe arangement of his organ. That's what I meant.

[robertgift]

You mean C,D,E,F#,G#,A# and C#,D#,F,G,A,B ?

I have never noticed. When I first heard C de W, because of the mixtures breaking back, I heard high D rather than the D an octave lower played with the right thumb. Was surpised when I purchased the music. Except for his use of tubular chime stop, Alexander Schreiner's performance at the Morman Tabernacle is best I have ever heard.

[amurugasu]

Beautiful! Though it's a pity the acoustics of the concert hall don't serve the organ's sound...

[codeman2008]

Latry is just like no other organist. Beautiful.

[GrandeChoeur]

Wonderful! Oliver Latry is one of my favorite organists. This organ is quite nice too!

[jonhope1]

What a legend. Out of this world.