Cleaning After Shooting Military Surplus Corrosive Ammunition

[BleedingBullets4U]

Ballistol

[trigun890]

or you can just clean the shit out of it it's only salt guy's not some toxic stuff.

[MarshalZhukov]

@trigun890 Well, salt is in effect "toxic" to the bore of rifles if not cleaned well, so hopefully it is thoroughly cleaned and there are no issues.

[TheKodiak72]

@MarshalZhukov they are mineral salts that rust the bore in 24 hours.. so to a barrel.. certainly toxic !

[PBJMORENO]

@trigun890

It's not just salt. When you shoot any corrosive ammunition the "salt" stays in your bore and attracts moisture. I would always clean my rifle the same day I shoot the ammunition. Rust sets in pretty fast, really has a lot to do with weather conditions you shoot in. Ammonia is the key ingredient to clean your barrel. I would actually do windex first then the other products. The first products you say you use won't really do anything to the build up, windex will.

[mst3k4evur]

Should I worry about damaging the stock when using boiling water?

[MarshalZhukov]

@mst3k4evur If you're going to use boiling water, you should take it out of the stock unless you have a sure system so you don't get the water all over the stock. If you've got a funnel or something that will fit well and have a steady hand then knock yourself out. But I would just take it out so it doesn't get messy lol...

[crackawise]

all you need is hot water down the barrel and wipe the bolt face as too, then oil well. Water is what disolves the mecury salts of the corrosive primers not any of those other chemicals. I've been doing this for over 20 years and have had no problems, pitting, rust or corrosion after shooting. good luck.

[splattermark]

Windex isn't actually much help. Potassium chloride, the salt that causes rust to form after shooting corrosive ammo, is much more soluble in hot water (563g/kg) than ammonia (.4g/kg.) Ammonia is an excellent copper solvent (it helps get to salts trapped under metal fouling) but plain old hot tap water is all you need after using Hoppes or whatever.

However look at the Windex MSDS sheets: no foruma actually uses ammonia, it's 99% water/alcohol with less than 1% ethylene glycol monohexyl ether.

[davidmarino96]

yugo 7.62X39 is very corrosive but worth it becuase the lead core

[mrv2rocketman]

is Brown Bear 7.62x54R JSP Corrosive?????

[MarshalZhukov]

@mrv2rocketman I don't think so, but make sure you clean it after you shoot it anyways!

[sabhacker101]

@mrv2rocketman no i shoot it its non corosive

[molemanlivesagain]

the amonia in the windex cancels out the corrosive salts in the primer. so first run some amonia through it then take off the stock and use warm water and dish soap and a cleaning rod an patch. after that dry it off and continue normal cleaning.

[sam805236]

@molemanlivesagain, that's a bit of overkill there. No need to remove the stock when cleaning. You also have some misinformation there. The salts in the primer are NOT corrosive, what causes barrel corrosion is the moisture the salt attracts. Acids are corrosive, not salts

Some windex, Hoppes #9, and a bit of rem oil is all you need.

[molemanlivesagain]

@sam805236 bases are also highly corrosive if you ever took science classes in high school. the salts alone may not rust out your barrel but i dont think any of us live in a zero humidity enviroment... and taking off the stock is simple and protects your wood. less you dont give a damn.

[sam805236]

@molemanlivesagain, Umm...I live right by the beach, so I think I know a little about humidity and the dangers of the salts in the ocean air. I'll say it again, removing the barrel every cleaning is overkill. After a good cleaning and oiling, use desiccant in the gun safe and a gun sock on your rifle. Trust me, my weapons have no rust.

But to each his own. If it gives you peace of mind that's all that matters, right?

[YOWHATTHEHELLUP71]

mix the hoppes and the windex.

[7xrepiv]

what if i just use hot water and rem oil after shooting corrosive ammo through my mosin, is that going to work?

[MarshalZhukov]

@7xrepiv If Rem oil is formulated for corrosive ammo, then you should be ok. If not, I would find a chemical that is formulated for corrosively primed ammo. The water will probably do it, but for me, I'd use the additional cleaning chemical just to be on the save side. Whatever you do use, be very thorough.

[7xrepiv]

@MarshalZhukov it says that it protects from corrosion. so if i used it after i shot will it take out the corrosion.

[MarshalZhukov]

@7xrepiv Well you should be good to go then. Just be very thorough with your cleaning method.

[7xrepiv]

@MarshalZhukov is it going to be bad for the gun if i use the whole bottle of the rem oil? what if i pore some of it down the barrel and let it sit over night can it damage the barrel? im sorry for bothering you with all of these questions its just that i am a total noob when it comes to cleaning a weapon. i just want the rifle to last longer.

[MarshalZhukov]

@7xrepiv It could be potentially harmful if you leave it in there for a long time. Overnight typically isn't necessary after shooting. Just be thorough with your chemicals. You can pour it down the bore if you want, but that's not really necessary, and creates a mess. Just be sure if you are shooting corrosive ammo, that you are very thorough. Patches might not come out perfectly clean in a milsurp rifle, so if you get a patch pretty clean, then you ought to be good to go.

[LeeJonB]

As long s the barral is shiney as fuck after you clean it then its fine!

[MarshalZhukov]

@LeeJonB Yea, that's usually a pretty good indicator!

[LeeJonB]

@MarshalZhukov Your always going to have shit on the patch after cleaning, you cant get "everything" but if its looks lovely then it will be lovely

[WDtuber23]

Winchester Break Free Powder Blast, Gunslick Ultra-Klenz, Gunslick Ultra-Lube, in that order, keep my M44 squeeky clean. Fast, easy, & cheap too! All from the wally world.

[citationxbjfv]

i hear that using carburator cleaner it works fine,,,use it on the range after shooting,,,and forget about all the cleaning process ,i did it,,and went home and forget all about it,,,,BUT,,, couple of days notice that all my bore was corroed,,,so if your hear that the carburator cleaner fix the problem,,do not belive it,,,,

[donsgotmoney]

@citationxbjfv Carb cleaner only removes the carbon build up, a proper cleaning of the bore is need after corrosive shots. I like to do the light test down the bore to see if any imperfections exsist. I have been using corrsive ammo only, and never have had a problem with corrosion as long as i did a proper cleaning of my weapon.

[1983BOWTIEBEATER]

It's a simple gun and thee cleaning should be simple too ;) After all, these guns probably went days without being cleaned.

[esh325]

I've never seen a hint rust after shooting corrosive ammo and cleaning it normally.

[MarshalZhukov]

@esh325 What did you use to clean it "normally"? Hoppes9 is supposed to be formulated for corrosive ammo. There are many products out there. I have been using this regiment, and it has been working great for me. Probably overkill, but it puts me to sleep at night.

[esh325]

@MarshalZhukov, Break free. A matter affact one time I shot corrosive ammo in my PSL and sprayed down the internals and bore with WD-40 and I left it for a week and did not see a hint of rust.

[MarshalZhukov]

@webst150 They had an alkaline solution they used in some fashion to clean their rifles with. They must have done an ok job. Not every Mosin you see has a sewer pipe for a bore either.

[thaman505]

I just wanna know if wd40 is ok 2 use? if used it for 2 years and never had a problem. if any one can tell me any good info let me know.

[mbsells77]

You don't need any cleaners. Just hot water. Followed by your regular cleaning regime. Again, cleaners or oils are not necessary. A simple rag soaked in break free to wipe down the rifle is all that's needed after a good hot bath of water.

[dp665]

i didnt know hoppes 9 solvent worked for corrosive ammo. getting a mosin this saturday and 440 rounds of surpluss so this will help greatly. i dont think theres such things as over kill. i would rather pay it safe then get a rusty pitted barrel.

[MarshalZhukov]

Yea, Hoppes9 should say it's formulated for corrosive ammo on the bottle. But, everything has turned out great. Clean bores make me happy!

[redmule02]

or you can just use a good black powder foam cleaner. ive seen these others using all this other stuff like this and running boiling hot water and other crap. ive used i believe its called t9 black powder foam cleaner and its better if the rifle is still warm and spray it in there and just watch all the crud come out the other side. then just run your patches through till clean and then add a light film of gun oil in there and your done

[Vule386]

Note - The RCHS solution is prepared in a subunit. The composition of the solution is as follows:

# drinking water - 1 L;

# ammonium carbonate - 200 g;

# potassium bichromate - 3-5 g. The RCHS solution is prepared in the amount required for scouring the weapon in the course of 24 hours. Small amount of the RCHS solution may be stored in tightly plugged glass vessels, away from heaters (in a dark place) for not more than 7 days.

[dawnninjawolf]

Would carbonated water be a good idea?

[MarshalZhukov]

Never heard of using carbonated water. Never tried either. I suppose you could use it upon your own prerogative.

[dawnninjawolf]

I'll let you know how it goes XD

[Alexn1067]

back in the day (during ww2 or before)

corrosive ammo was the only thing out there, and it doesn't take a wizz to realize that soldiers didn't have the time or resources to care for these surplus rifles like we do, especially with the mosin nagants. They would shoot corrosive ammo in combat and if lucky would be able to clean the bore next week.

so my question is, how the hell did they prevent their weapons from disfunctioning or rusting away in the field?

[darius28z]

i agree peeps get carried away just brushin patchin oilin will do it. as an infantry man myself we beat the shit out of our m4s and all we do is brush oil and run patches pick carbon ..

[Army333]

@MarshalZhukov

Soap water does. But your better sticking with other methods. I don't think it works too well.

[koolaidman007]

I use a copper solvent and run that through, finish off with the Hoppes 9 formulated for corrosive ammo.

[MarshalZhukov]

Yea whatever works. If that stuff is formulated for it, spot on. I haven't seen anything like that but if its working, then carry on. I just checked the bores in my rifles I shoot corrosive ammo out of and they are still looking good :D

[Iraqveteran8888]

Great product selection...I heat my windex and lace it will some water about 50/50.

[111dogon555]

Probably dont need the windex, tends to leave light film and you dont want that in your gun. The corrosive salts are best dissolved with HOT water I add a little bit of detergent to help it along too.

Then i use a bore snake with hoppes on the tail of it.

finish with a very light coating of ballistol in the barrel using a patch.

[MarshalZhukov]

The routine I use, I use Hoppes last, and then dry patches on a bore snake 5 times through the barrel. And I run a dry bore snake through them a few times before I start shooting them :) Thanks for the info though, I wasn't aware of any film left.

[djvdz66]

Right on! That's all you need!

[Iraqveteran8888]

I can vouch that the Butches Bore Shine is awesome stuff...A little pricy but it works great.

[MarshalZhukov]

Very true. I'm sure its overkill, but thats ok. Better safe than sorry in this instance. I have had no problems with recurring growing in the barrel after it sits for a while. I check the bores of my rifles often to be sure. Anyone that does shoot any corrosive ammo, be sure to do the same. It doesn't take long for corrosive ammo to rear its ugliness down a barrel. Rifle or pistol. It is critical to clean any gas systems if corrosive ammo is shot out of a gas operated gun! Can not forget that!

[Transporter1022]

How long until you can see it forming?

[MarshalZhukov]

Depends really on humidity. Hot dry places might take longer. But it won't take much more than 2 or 3 days until you see stuff in there. Clean them ASAP after shooting, and especially if any corrosive stuff is shot out of a gas operated gun clean the gas tube and piston too!

[Dietzeeeee]

Very good video. I was thinking about making a video on this as well. I just use hopes number 9 and scrub the crap out of the barrel and then after cleaning it out with dry patches I take a patch with light remington oil and put it down the barrel. It has woked for me so far. I have heard about people using windex and hot soapy water, but I have not tried that yet. Also no kidding corrosive ammo will rust your barrel if all you do is pull a dry boresnake through the barrel and call it quits.

[NSXR227]

Extremely informative. This should be mandatory viewing for everyone on G&G