Electric bike conversion 1000W 48V

[Grazell]

This is one of my Dad's videos

[hippyraverocker]

Is that road legal? Here in the UK 250w and 15mph is the limit.

[Vaporcartel]

Do you still have the e bike? I don't know yet if to buy a gas scooter or to build a e bike. The bike looks a lot of fun but maybe it will not be so reliable and is limited to the operation range. Beside this when the motor wears out or the batteries doesn't hold the charge it will set you back with another 5-600$ back so I don't think it is so money saving deal

[merdoc81]

Now that's funny... At least 700.00 dollars worth in the kit thrown on a cheap Chinese Walmart bike. Get a real bike like a Trek.

[ore83]

I wish it was cheaper to get this all thrown together =/

[rocbola]

@ore83 It is. You can build an ebike for under $500, including battery and bike. Use a 500W motor and use sealed lead acid batteries. You can always but the lithium battery later when you can afford it.

[ICCETP2011]

As a fellow builder ofan e-bike I would reccomend a front hub motor 500w with a 48v battery pack rear mounted. This accomplishes two things better weight distribution and a much more efficient current. I use four 7.2ah SLA batteries as a way to limit overall weight (and cost). Stay Green friends.

[iovaykind]

2a charger will take 10hrs to fully charge a 20ah battery if you discharge it fully. you said 6hrs, so you're doing the right thing not fully discharging the bike :]

[halfmumi]

no helmet?

[JasonJJasonJ]

awesome

[theHackerOfMayhem]

How about when raining? is it dangerous to ride?? O:)

[dimaflour]

mm nice one. ive got 3 bike.. 2 of them are pretty new and nice. its dahon vitesse d7 2011 and kona dew fs 2011 and i also have a mongoose full suspension bike from like 2004 year or so. So im thinking now to buy 26 inch wheel and make make old bike fly or buy 20 inch wheel and make a super folding dahon even superior, what do you think?

[pierrejeanes]

clean up the place!

[Tomsouthrock]

over all how do you like it

[HostileHST]

Anyone push the kit to 51v? I know it would need a new controller, but I am curious how much faster and especially how much power it would gain.

[mrfnk]

buy the motor and steel the batteries.

[adbitex]

@mrfnk fuck you

[mrfnk]

@adbitex not my fault you don't know how to lock your shit, plus I don't pick locks, I just close line the rider, pick up the bike and leave.

[illyria111]

You ever take it off any sweet jumps?

[vonnieglen]

Thank you for the great video! I have put together both electric and gasoline powered bikes. My electric bike was a 36v 750w system which I used much cheaper gel cells. It still did around 25mph on the flat and had a range of over 20 miles.

The gas bike was one of the "80cc" Chinese motors from Ebay. It was much more powerful than the electric bike, but of course it was fairly loud and not street legal. I was never stopped however. It would do about 35mph and got around a 100mpg.

[deColganator]

@vonnieglen how much are you talking to buy everything and convert the bike...tanks

[vonnieglen]

@deColganator Mine wasn't as good as the one here, but I spent only around $200 for the motor and controller and $125 for the batteries. The gasoline engine kit was much cheaper... it was only about $100 for the kit.

[deColganator]

@vonnieglen tanks for reply....where did you buy these parts,is it easy to set up...i think i would go for the gas one,so was tat gas one 35mph and 100mpg only 250 euro? i live in ireland and towns are 13km or more apart so speed and distance better id say wat u think.....i have an old 24in mtb and an old road/tourer 27in wheels bikes both in great condition..which bike would you recommend installing.sorry bout all the questions:)

[GameGuy2k9]

well jelous

[Drdump1]

why not try (less revolution)on the front drive motor with bigger diameter wheel 26" n the "2nd Rear hub motor with bigger current nWatt but smaller wheel 24"(turning faster) generate electricity back into Battery, with Hipower DC Blocking "Diode".so U might get more Travelling DISTANCE without charging it regulary at Home, Recomended charging motor Planetary type

[g7txu]

@Drdump1 Because it's a stupid idea which wouldn't work

[Natedawg422]

I hope that some day I can costume build a bike like this one. But with lighter parts and materials, a man powered/self charging battery, and more stylish looking.

[Dechthem]

Thanks for uploading and sharing with the youtube community.

I have a question that I will boldly just ask as I am about to get me one.

what should I go for if I want longest possible reach? 24v 36v or 48v? and what does the watt add to the bike?

it is also in my interest to climb hills with me bike down hill I will probably not use the motor... often.

Thanks in advance!

[1975buddhafish]

I got the same bike with the ebikekit from nj. 15ah ping in a tool box on the rack. Upgraded the handle bars and breaks but that old bike is all steel so its a great ebike for sure! I get 40 miles a charge avg. speed 16mph- top speed 27mph on flat. Great video lots of info thanks for upload.

[H00zyodaddy]

459am you are sooo wrong!!!! I tell you something, I have a hobby with rc cars. First I had rc cars with nitro engines and I tought they are so cool and nice and then I bought a electric brushless rc car and I was speechless. No more dirty hands, no more noise, no more engine tune up after every run and the best part much faster and torque. I invested in 2-3 more batteries packs and I triple the run time. The same with those bikes. Now it is just the beginning!

[MisterAaronRodriguez]

How far can you travel on one charge?

[g7txu]

@MisterAaronRodriguez Don't you read captions ?

[type2s13]

supercool



[grreeknick]

I wonder if you could mount that battery in the lower frame between the rider's position and the ground? I noticed that you seemed to have some challenges in handling the bike - I believe the high center of gravity could be the culprit here.

[FrozenCrewGr]

this is really cool man who didn't want to have on of these?

[459am]

Buy a 66cc mortorized bike kit. Way cheaper and better.135 dollars instead of 2000 dollars, plus alot lighter. Only adds 17 pounds and takes 2 seconds to fill instead of three hours of charging super heavy batterys.

[MrChannelOK]

@459am what about noise though? Dont want something that attracts attention..

[chipko]

@459am ... but you'd still have to buy fuel.  If you had an electric bike and some solar panels, you could have free transport. Invest in a second or third battery and you can swap and go quicker.

No carbon monoxide either..

[deColganator]

@459am where you you buy this..living in ireland and how much to change your bike completly..i have an old racing bike drops could u use tat or a 24in mtb

[xmoroseguyx]

I guess the real questions are, How much do you use it?, And how long will the system last? I guess if you pay around 1000 dollars for the whole thing, And use it regularly, And it lasts say? 3 years, Then it`s good value, I suppose the battery will go first, Which although I presume somewhat simple to replace, Probably is the most expensive part of the system.

[a1rs0ftman]

lol so thats 500 bucks for 20 miles, it would be cheaper to buy a car and go wherever you want lol

[ninjaturtle11754]

@a1rs0ftman seriously? you know the battery is rechargable right? And like $0.50 to recharge. 20 miles costs you 3 bucks in a car.

[a1rs0ftman]

@ninjaturtle11754 jesus im dumb, i forgot about the rechargable batteries lol

[keesdegroot2004]

1000 watt? 70 km/h?

[UpNorthLiving2011]

how long can you go on one charge? very nice bike@!

[krammy11]

Its like a 1920 FORD car with a FERRARI ITALIA engine.

[kbc4wd]

great work. Can you update the description with spec - including where you bought the motor and actual performance experienced - range on flat at (say) 20mph and (say 30 mph.

[lexam55]

your battery is still working after 2 years fast?

[maria271011]

I have a Mini 40 Mile Busettii bike and it runs 50-55 miles on one battery charge. I also tried my friends Vortex Mountain bike by Busettii. It ROCKS !  Can get up to 32 mph top speed, and on one charge that bike set the new record of 86 miles. Hope it becomes a big hit. In California many people like Busettii because they cost around $1700 but can go 50--86 miles on one charge depending on model. Maria in Cali

[philthybass]

it look's like 29 pretty quick.i have a diamond back i would lick to convert.

[thisisobvious]

fabian cancellara's bike is very similar to this.

[JustForFunAndMe1]

Li Ping there are like a million Li Pings

[WhiteGravey]

@JustForFunAndMe1 allmost as many chi chongs

[Zooni2]

With all that wieght and speed. That rear tire is an accident waiting to happen.

[HostileHST]

Time to use the leaf blower dude!

[johnphoenix20009]

That is not a 1000 Watt motor. You were fooled with a selling tactic. A true 1,000W wheel/motor weighs on the order of 50 lbs. What they are doing is simply overvolting a 500W motor. so that it is pulling the same amount of amps as a 1,000W motor. It would be Much bigger than that.

[HostileHST]

@johnphoenix20009 That does seem true. Would be nice to pay the cost of a 500 watt and convert the included controller to handle 48v and walla, 1000 watt for a quick mod, assuming you have the extra batteries.

[TehShadower]

lithium iron.

[stylefire]

Hey. I just did the same thing. Have you had any problems so far? I intend on riding mine in all weather, have you had problems with water in the electrics? Finally, has the battery charge capacity degraded over time? I'll post pics or video of mine for you to see.

[fastbak3]

can any 1 help mei have a baodao scooter bike with a standard battery 48v motor that i wld lik 2 get more speed out of currently 35 km/hr would like around 55km/hr can i convert a hub motor 2 the front wheel and tap into the existing wiring?i know that a beta battery will help make it lighter and sustain power longer as well?alternativley mayb i shl just get a beter bike from china?i can import them,if any 1 can help b great nice vid helps get me thinking!

[thecoolestpplever]

just get a gas engine one on ebay. like $138 and 80 mpg. it goes 30 mph.

[aboddwardak]

say i have a bike how much would this cost with all the other stuff ....

[teoesty]

Where I find this motor to buy?

[tjeerdgibson]

1000watt? Thats a lot for a hub engine.

[snowboardr147852]

where did you get the controller from??

[ploetzlich30]

geeze, DUDE, 15 pounds for the motor is A LOT! i wouldn´t like to propell that extra weight for a single minute!

[ploetzlich30]

@macroinnovation, upload it to youtube, and share it with us, buddy!

[JUKIO01]

@ploetzlich30 just get a fiber carbon bike, or just get a really really like but strong bike, then the extra weight from the battery, motors, it will be ok

[matty63209]

How fast can your bike go? I am thinking about replacing the bus with a bike such as yours to get me to college and back every day (about 8 miles) It is hilly in places but mostly flat. You said the battery weighs the bike down, could the battery alone take you up a hill?

[gph61]

@matty63209 I ride about 5 miles one way on a 450w 24v stock bike purpose built by schwinn with a currie motor and battery kit. I'm 200 lbs and it does about 18 mph on the flats with no pedaling and no wind. I climb a 350 ft steep hill at about 13 mph with moderate to heavy pedaling. It will climb the hill by its self but it crawls and drains the battery. A little bit of pedal assist on take off and hills goes a long way.

[Grazell]

@matty63209 Goes about 29 mph top speed on a flat.

[Abletoroll]

@Grazell You didn't answer a single question in Matty63209's post. He never even asked how fast it was.

I am pointing this out because I too would like to know how long you can ride it like you were riding it. Can it run flat out for an hour?

[ninjaturtle11754]

@matty63209 I've done big hills on my bike with the same type of motor, goes almost as well as most cars, Got a 30AH pack, did a 24 mile round trip (to my university) and still had enough charge to get me another 12 mile trip to and charged it at school (didnt want to chance running out) log story short, it'll do hills. itll go scary fast .

[thedsearch]

Do you think I could convert an ultra motors a2b to this speed?

[usukker]

lol 3:21. he though that he was fast. but he ws not hahahahaahahaha

[llichtveld]

Wow that thing is quick! They sell 1000 watt unit for the front wheel too! Imagine a bike with front AND rear motors!! Anybody built one yet?

[EmoAssociation]

i want to make a ebike too, but the batteries are very expensive...(~500 $?)

[Grazell]

@EmoAssociation Agreed. Batteries are the most expensive and most critical component.

[timetraveler3797]

@EmoAssociation

I just use car batteries, they're cheap and i recycle old ones for it.

[HostileHST]

I use Garden Batteries, not made for this, but they do work and cost $28 per battery. If they blow up in a year, I'm not out the cost of 3 sealed lead acid batteries costing $35-40 each plus shipping. I get about an hours ride time, or 10.5 miles before needing a charge and that's trying to not let the batteries get too low. I also use separate chargers, helps keep both batteries equally charged, unlike a single 24v charger that will eventually kill a battery. Good to hear you recycle!

[rocbola]

@EmoAssociation Start with Sealed Lead Acid batteries. They are a little heavy, and have less range, but they are cheap enough to get you started. The SLA batteries will last long enough for you to save a little bit out of each paycheck for lithium. That's what i did, and it's worth it. Check out my videos, i have a few of my bike.

[rushforce33]

WOW ! my boss at work built one....but he used a super light cannondale i think....but that thing does 35+mph with me on it and i'm 165lbs. 100% torque, I almost threw the bike into my car because I wasn't ready for it... LOL

[eggaweb]

For all those who say electric bikes are for wusses or lazy people, why don't you remove the motor from your car, punch a hole in the floor and use your legs to propel your car.

[kdc43]

@eggaweb  YEAH, you tell 'em!.......Fred Flintstone style!!!

[jtmjtm2001]

@eggaweb A Flintstone car!

[peepod2727]

how long does it take to recharge when completely dead

[h3xyournightmare]

too many wires...

[Grazell]

@h3xyournightmare I cleaned up the wires a bit since the vid.



[angrygunsmith]

@Grazell use a weedwacker guys seriously heaps easier

[staver76]

@Grazell How do those V-Brakes work when you are at the highest speed? Is it possible to slam them? Or would you slowly ease on them if you have enough run-away space?

[SuperGaryOak]

Nice helmet...

[mattrix2007]

is there any way you can use the rotation of both wheels to put charge back into the battery?

[Grazell]

Some e-bike motor kits have regenerative braking--not mine. This puts charge back to the battery during braking like hybrid cars do.

[BleedingSunday]

@mattrix2007

you can, but it wont help much..

[romas1973]

i want 1 just dont now where to get kit as ours in the UK

[Grazell]

Did you check e-bay? Mine came straight from China. They shipped it USA.

[minde28383]

how many miles you can do with fully charged batteries?

[Abovethestaff]

This makes me wish I could do this. I've got a schwinn that's dying to be converted. You guys make it look so easy!

[Grazell]

A hub motor installation is easy. Give it a try. I'll send you the parts list if you're interested.

The hardest part was evenly spreading the rear forks to accommodate a slightly wider wheel. I used a car jack placed between the forks to accomplish this.

[kdc43]

That hub motor from Golden Motor in China?

[Grazell]

Yes. Golden Motor.

[cavador2001]

warlockboyburns :I have the same setup but with sla batteries-they are far too heavyto ride safely because of the wobble so I am going to build a small trailer to carry the batteries and get them off the carry rack-perhaps it will be safer then.

(BTW 4 x 12v 18ah sla's weigh about 60-80 lb.)

[MrPoopshoe]

i believe its called li-po

[Grazell]

It's a lithium iron phosphate (LiFePO4, or LFP) battery. It uses LiFePO4 as a cathode material.

[airsoftjunkie2]

@Grazell you might wanna get some disk brakes on that thing, your vees will wear down very quickly :)

[999benhonda]

it seems pretty cool, but for the money i could by a old dirt bike in running condition. which IMO would be more fun.

how much runtime do you get with that pack?

[CycleMan2200]

I can pedal @ 30mph..lol

[TheDigitalguyy]

yeah but how long can maintain that speed?

[CycleMan2200]

Not too long. Maybe a tenth of a mile..lol

[Grazell]

Ok Lance.

[CycleMan2200]

@Grazell 'Im not lance..and I am a fast rider(av.18.5mph). Motors are for wusses that can't pedal for long distances.

[Grazell]

Are engines for wusses too? I suppose you don't own a car.

[CycleMan2200]

@Grazell I don't own a car and probably will never own a car. I don't need a car. I can travel anywhere I like without a car. Bicycles are meant to be pedaled and not to have motors on them(although at some point when your extreamley exhausted a motor may help). That's what I'm saying.

[tigonridge]

@Grazell lol Brilliant comeback, Grazell.

[warlockboyburns]

4 x 12w 20ah batteries are cheaper (£90 vs £220)

[warlockboyburns]

*4 x 12w 20ah lead acid

[warlockboyburns]

but twice as heavy.... i should mention

[StanAlter]

That's a nice motor. Good video

[PalmOliveSoap]

nice bike and nice motoe your having a whole lot of fun there

i wonder if you had an other battery if you could charge that up from the motion of the wheel turning or would that all be to heavy if the technology is around

[nephil1977]

That's too bad that the LiFePO4 pack suddenly crapped out. Did you get a warranty package with it? I know E+ has nice hub motor/battery packages, but they use NiMH.  They do have warranties, but are pretty pricey...

[Grazell]

Yes... Working out a fix with Ping.. Seems that some of the cells went bad. Will post update shortly.

[nephil1977]

Excellent! Good to hear.  Cheers!

[BRYKO2008]

Did you get your battery fixed? I am thinking of buying a Ping battery as well, but I guess there are a few folks who have had problems. Is your a V2 or a V2.5?

[rog271]

lithium-iron batteries are best. the are well proven, used in all mobile phones. when did you hear of a phone battery failing? lith.polymer are just too temperemental and expensive. or go for SLA cheapest option

[GoGreenGoElectric]

48v 1000w front motor I think is the best solution and 30 ah LiFEPO4 battery or 40 but is more havy

[shrimpersdurango123]

thats a nice bike ,

I always liked the Mongoose

[smartkart]

I'm hearing a lot of bad things about the LifePo batteries. Considering how expensive they are, I don't think it's worth the risk. They are supposed to be the best, but unfortunately, we're still in the stone ages on battery tech. It's the only thing holding back EV technology and is moving at a snail's pace.

[AndTen06]

Wow i was concerned about speed but that thing looked pretty quick!...Does anyone know if electric bikes handle hills alright? I would think it would deplete the battery pretty quick, of course you could coast downhill without using the motor at all. I've thought about buying the 80 cc gasoline kit too, My concern is whether it would be street legal in my state without the title, license, and insurance a moped requires.

[buddha420luva]

thats awsome!!!

did u built it or did it come built?

[rdt1970]

hi tim this is so cool my only concern is the cables has anyone managed to outfit this system cables into the actual bike frame. Also would be good if there was a way to charge when you pedal i think most electric bike let you do that. Ilike wher eyou live tim looks nice and peaceful, boy are you flying on that thing :). If i commute to work i will look seriously at this but have seen 50mile range bike but it cost £1400.00

[wallyworldusa]

Of all things, you worry about the cables? Are you kidding? And no, you can't charge while riding. That would be perpetual motion. There is regenerative braking, but not used much on bikes. And you think 30mph is flying?

[rdt1970]

yes 30mph hes flying as hes not even peadling

[fuzzdemon]

Hey thanks for the info mate. Just curious ho long does one of those batteries last in years, or how many cycles do they have? because they are very expensive. Thanks.

[STEVEDIGIBOYtv]

I'm building 2 of these into a 350 racing motorcycle and your vid and speed has inspired me further. Thanks,

[AmericansSexualPreds]

ahha 3000 u can buy a 1000 watt electic motor for 100 u have more for bateries

[AmericansSexualPreds]

hib motor suck get a normal electric motor is more eficient, hub motor are not eficienf at low RPD electric motor are eficient at hight rps thus this is not too eficiend

[Grazell]

The hub motor is a much simpler installation. It's efficient enough for my needs.

[jokekash]

what wheel you recommend for the setup, rear or front? thank you.

[crapkillerz]

lol "HI MR.PING!"

[bob25552]

I have this very same setup. Have gotten 30 mph on slight down slope - average is 25 mph which is fast enough to get me to work and back. 30 mile round trip and I am allowed to charge at work. My commute is free now. Total for bat and rear hub kit was 750. Have not ran the battery completely out so I don't know max range. If you're looking for a cheap (free if you charge at work) way to get to from work, this is it. I agree with the disc brake comment. Maybe regen braking?

[AmericansSexualPreds]

id ur loking for something really cheap and fat get a 80 cc motor kit for 120 dolars, and u get 100 miles per galon so u can keep the other 600 dolars for gas for a lifetime haha

[bob25552]

I actually thought seriously about getting the 80cc Ebay motor kit. Just didn't want to buy gas anymore for my commute. I also wanted away from the noise of and ICE. Like I said, as long and boss man continues to allow me to charge at work, my commute is FREE. Doing the math, lets say the 80cc rig gets 90mpg. I would get 3 days commute to a gallon burning aprox 7 gallons / month (21 work days). Not if but when gas goes to $5 / gal - that's $35 / month - $420 / yr. Hardly a lifetime of gas

[bob25552]

And ya, I know gas isn't $5 / gal right now. It has gone up 50 cents over the past month. Where do you think it will end up this time? How long will it take before we're paying 4-5 / gal again? Sorry but I'll take my electric any day :) Boss man doesn't care that I put in the small amount of power I do each day. Fact is, he wants me to help him build one!

It's all in what you want I guess. Me, I love passing up gas stations on a daily basis and knowing I'm a small part of the solution

[omidvarerahmat]

how much did you spend in total ? good job by the way ...

[raypsi]

Came out of the driveway a little to fast almost crashed into the curb, wow

[Grazell]

Not quite.

[wongthong7]

The bike you build is very good, but should have a disc brake for the motor you have!!!!

[junakowicz]

Are estimated facts true? (20 miles with constant 30mph). Im planing to build ebike with same set as yours . what is max speed ?

[luc59457]

I use 1000w motor too. But on gears I get in the 60'skm/h at 36v. 100amps. The ratio is borderline right now, not to say it can't handle a lot of booting. This ratio has been improved 1000% from the latters that destroyed my motor. Good price for your hub tho, is this the whole kit w/ throttle?. My kit goes for 359$ with a beefed up controller. It goes even cheaper if you buy separate. I get 30km distance @ 30km/h. I don't know if your distance facts are true tho. Be nice to see a video showing.

[patrickintx]

Can you tell me where you got your kit from? I want to make my bike electric too. Can you still peddle if you use a chain driven mote?

[smartkart]

Grazell obviously isn't interested in answering your question so I will. Bicycle hub motors are available all over the place. If you can't do a simple Google search and help yourself, there is no hope.

[patrickintx]

That was a while ago I have already got my shipment from China. It got here is a week and a half. $299.00 shipping included 1000w 48 volt. It came with everything but the battery. It was a great buy! I am looking at ways to take 12v computer fans to help generate power for the battery.

[rog271]

which dealer did you get your hub kit from in china?----if you look on e-bay they all seem to be exactly the same, using the same photo!---------

[screemineagle11]

bad ass dude

[dynomania]

It's interesting, I expected the 48volt 1000watt motor to be much faster. I get a little less performance out of my 500watt SLA model but it's still great for commuting although I still pedal most of the time.

[vulcanus30]

500w 36v(front), 20Ah LiFePo4 and my bike goes ~20 mph, 1000w is obviously much more powerful.

[rainstormaeroponics]

hi

is this the wheel kit from ebay

does the 20ah battery power the motor well enough or do u need a 30ah or 40ah

thanks

[0redthunder0]

Thats awesome!! You should get regen :D