The Triangle Fire

[FormerTVAddict]

I could barely hear the interviews, much of it was completely unintelligible, the music is a little too loud. Good video otherwise.

[MrViTopol]

@FormerTVAddict in fascist america, you have the right to remain silent

[bongoo]

The Music is to loud can not hear the story.

[deakon452876]

@luvtogothere now that is what we don't need, but that is what the globalists want, a one world Fascist-Socialist Government. don't believe me? why do you see Check points across our country and The National Guard Patrolling american streets. that already proves Fascism taking into place. we already lost what our country was made into. ofcourse a Republic. Ben Franklin said to a Journalist After the delagates formed our country. "we made a republic, and we will be fine unless we loose it."

[AbsoulteZer0]

@deakon452876 its not fascist if u have a choice, u can learn u can not learn, u can do listen to music u can write music u can buy as much as u want and go where u want, dont be ignorant without reason. Btw our country was made on the concept all white christian landowning men are equal, except the Irish, and any other Catholics, if you think we are going on a downward spiral look how we started. We started as monsters who think they knew what was best.

[zenmachinefilms]

And to think there are many people in this country that want to take labor back to those days.

[xander7ful]

My great-uncle was there that day and saw the building burn and women jumping to their deaths. He said they looked like flies falling.

Later on he formed his own clothing factory and he never like unions.  But incidents like these are why we need them.

[dam2630]

Why do we not get any information on the people talking who I assume are all survivors

[ftwspa]

What the fuck is with the music in this video being louder than the voices? Fire the editor

[NeverBeBored08]

Does this building still exist in New York?

[ancona246]

@NeverBeBored08 yes it does i think on march 25 they have a parade and walk to the triangle building and remember all the people that pased

[dam2630]

@NeverBeBored08 Yes, New York University owns it - it is one block off of Washington Square Park there is a plaque

[Nikon6762]

I just don't know HOW these men got away with the horrendous things that they did that ultimately resulted in this tragedy.They may not have been sentenced rightly on this earth,but they could not escape God-the ultimate judge.And I hope that they were dealt with accordingly.God bless all of the victims-rest in peace............

[EliManningFan896]

May those precious souls rest in everlasting peace.... God protects them.

[70Kenny]

None who jumped survived. Same with those who jumped from the Towers on 9/11/01. I guess exploding on the cement below is a more preferable way to go than burning to death.

[Hibbs4Prez]

Not too long ago a factory in North Carolina got into trouble for having all of its floor doors that led to the outside locked. Some things never change.

[TheDAT573]

The owners of the factory won in court.

[MrCoal11]

I can't understand what they are saying because of the music overdub.

[TheMslaura811]

If you didn't come in on Sunday, you were fired on Monday.

[Ravenseer]

@lvll138inrs - they were aquitted for manslaughter, and only fined $75 per worker in the civil suit. This was after they got their insurance to pay out to the tune of $400 per girl who was killed. And 3 years later, one of them was caught locking the doors again on of his factories, and he was fined $20. Its outrageous.

[lvll138inrs]

the faggots couldnt get out because the manages locked the doors. i hope they put the managers to sleep for doing that.

[TheDAT573]

27 buckets of water, was all the young ladies, garment workers, had to fight

this fire with. Exits were blocked, doors bolted shut, no one warned them.

[blessOTMA]

Thank you. We must never forget, particularly since  now that the fight has started anew

[TigerRocket]

A part of this event not often considered is how helpless the firemen must have felt. Their ladder equipment was not able to reach above six floors. They too were victims in many ways. Even though I'm absolutely sure they fought bravely and to the point of exhaustion, I can't help but think there must have been a few who simply couldn't forgive themselves. Such a travesty all around.

[57highland]

@TigerRocket And you would think that the City would have done the math. If the Fire Department's ladders only reached six stories high, then it should have been mandatory to have safe working conditions for people working any higher.

[TigerRocket]

@57highland Presumably the locked fire exit was part of that. There was also a lack of standards for additional building material. The fire escapes which became weak and twisted from the heat were of the cheapest manufacture.

Another example of poor standards was in the 'General Slocum' ferry disaster (1904) New York City's 2nd largest loss of life after 9/11. Also the result of pure negligence and willful disregard for basic safety. Emergency services were expected to work miracles there too.

[MissMousy60]

Republicans would love for working conditions to be like this again.

[mmjaljs]

Heartbreakeinig.....Also profoundly Courageous!

[dcarasco]

The woman at the beginning is so clear, so expressive, so brave. In a few short words she clarifies years of women's history. Thank you, brave lady. Sorry you never got a doll. You were so good to make sure your siblings did. I love you.

[dcarasco]

The woman at the beginning is so clear, so expressive, so brave.

[ElleBee81]

100 years today...... They were forced to give their lives. Their horrible deaths made the country pay attention. I will always remember and be thankful to these women, that I have rights and can work in a place that is safe.

[McLovin6n9]

100 years ago has past as of today but how did this fire get started?

[MrBillyflash]

Are there any picture's of the 9th floor the way it look's now?

[timhomer2009]

@MrBillyflash I don't know if there are any pictures of the interior, but the building (now known as the Brown Building), is now part of the New York University campus.

[MrBillyflash]

@timhomer2009 Thank's i would like to see the 9Th floor now

[DARKLADYOFGA]

Yes, all those unfortunate people, and millions more, killed by greed in the extreme and their ilk exist today. I cannot pray for anything; I'm convinced that no one was ever listening. And, so it goes.......

[artiefun]

It would be very thoughtful if all of us were to remember this disaster and pray for those of lost their lives. I personally lit candles today in remembrance of all these poor unfortunate people.

[ItsDayne1]

its been 100 years since then on friday

[jansplays]

I had to keep pausing this video, because it so sad to listen to and look at. Thank you for posting it...

Jan Michael Alejandro

Altadena, CA

[sashaxwp]

If you get rid of Unions, it won't be long and we will be back to these working conditions. It is already happening. How many of you have to work 6-7days a week? What happened to the Great American Dream? It's time to fight back and save our country for the corporate greedy.

[TudorRose85]

This video brought tears to my eyes. Those poor women and girls.

[guyanesethug19]

i wasnt paying attention to this video and the intro scared the shit outta me.......:\

[GrillaGardnr]

Great video. I loved the montage of voices. Very interesting and effective. One problem in the ending scroll of information: The casualties were not strictly women. I'm not absolutely sure of the number, but I believe 24 of the victims were men.

[VincenzoPickatelli]

Let us never forget and let us never fail to remind those who do and inform those who know not.

[Maddyisthebestable]

this video had an effect on me. I did alot of resaerch for a relastic fiction project. I not only discovered this tragic event i learned how to this day women are treated unfairly at the job the work at. What gives a man the upper hand to think that that he can over power a woman? Didnt we all come from the same place? I think its a disgrace that we are treated this way in this day and time. Moreso i cant believe it happened in thailand again. this just proves our society is a wreck.

[DARKLADYOFGA]

I appreciate the postings of these videos so much; we must never forget. On PBS is a doc. scheduled: 02-28th, tonight.

This is the kind of future is awaiting us again if the right wing and their corporate masters have their way. It has been over 30 years in the making; have slaves in China and elsewhere is not enough for their gaping maw!

[SteveLLW]

@DARKLADYOFGA Knock off the "right wing and their corporate masters" crap. Corporate business has its place and private sector unions have their place. Fire Codes, Life Safety Codes and OSHA has their places, as well.

[Goneoffshore]

@SteveLLW The right wing and their enablers are leading the race to the bottom - See the video posted by Steelworkers - The only reason we have fire codes and OSHA are thanks to the unions. Those regulations have been fought tooth and nail by corporations.

[SteveLLW]

@Goneoffshore That is factually incorrect. The fire codes are the DIRECT result of the efforts of the insurance companies. After all; the insurance companies were left paying the bill for the capital losses. That would include lawsuits for loss of life. The cities follwed the lead of the insurance companies and mandated fire codes after they were developed by the "underwriters" (insurance companies). We have OSHA (good, or bad) because of.........drum roll, please.....President Richard Nixon!

[Hibbs4Prez]

@SteveLLW And then OSHA was all but killed off by Reagan. Even though odds were OSHA would only show up unannounced once every ten to twenty years, Reagan put in new laws which placed more strict restraints...on OSHA! Now OSHA basically needs permission to do its job. Read "Fastfood Nation" which goes over that in detail. Typical bought off Republicans. All that crying about Big Government but they allow something even more dangerous, Big Business, to get its way.

[SteveLLW]

@Hibbs4Prez You've been misinformed. OSHA is still a big, bad meanie and construction contractors fear them. I have seen OSHA "put the whammy" on several contractors, when they've done stupid, unsafe crap..

[Hibbs4Prez]

@SteveLLW I ahve not been misinformed. You're simply a big business puppet if you think toothless OSHA is the problem. 

[SteveLLW]

@Hibbs4Prez Actually, no. I work for the US Government and I help oversee construction jobs. OSHA has big teeth and I have seen them bite down on contractors pretty hard. Seriously; in the US, the building, fire, electrical, mechanical and plumbing codes are pretty tight compared to most of the world. The local officials must enforce them. Usually, they're pretty tough. Occasionally, you get a night club fire due to a cheapskate owner and a lazy fire inspector, but usually, that's not the case.

[57highland]

@SteveLLW Yes, but back to Triangle. The book "The Triangle Fire" shows the floor plans of the 8th, 9th, and 10th floors. The design of the 9th floor in particular (75 foot long tables with the in/out at only one end, small elevators, very small staircase), lent itself to a very slow exit for about 260 people. These basic design factors (devoting maximum space to production and minimum to ingress/egress), aside from the fire precautions that were lacking, were responsible for that disaster.

[SteveLLW]

@57highland "Means of Egress" is a BIG factor in the Life Safety Code (a subset of the NFPA fire codes). All of these codes originated with work done by insurance companies with cities following suit adopting these new insurance requirements as ordinances. For the record; the NFPA gave up on working with the new International Fire Code people, because IFC codes are weak. Most, if not all juristictions have stuck with the stringent NFPA. The Army sure has! All new work here MUST meet the NFPA.

[SteveLLW]

@Goneoffshore Private sector unions have their place. My great grandfather was a union organizer for the United Pressmen Union. I don't like seeing jobs offshored, either. Public sector unions are a different animal, entirely, however.

[Treblemaker09]

It is so sad that only a tragedy like this could get people's attention and get those in power to improve working conditions! What a nightmare.

[rextrek]

the Republicans would LOVE these kind of working conditions again if they could get away with it. 

[Dealit707]

@rextrek Why do you say something so stupid? Are you retarded?

[Goneoffshore]

@Dealit707 Because the Republicans are trying to gut any sort of regulation that protects workers. Look at what is happening in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, New Jersey.

[Dealit707]

@Goneoffshore If you had inserted the words "greedy union" between your words, protects and workers, then you would be correct.

The average American worker is fucking sick and tired of having their pockets emptied so the union pigs can live large and fat off of our sweat.

Thank God for "any" politician that's trying to reign in the fiscal madness that the Union hogs have created.

[overstatedbrilliance]

@Dealit707 I'm an average American worker. Speak for yourself, not me!

[Dealit707]

@overstatedbrilliance You must be one of those left wing Dem's with mantal retardation. Get help!

[jlomax]

@rextrek You are incredibly stupid and heartless!!!!

[Goneoffshore]

@jlomax Rex is neither stupid nor heartless. It's Republicans and their corporate masters who are heartless. Take a look at the video posted by Steelworkers on the Triangle fire and perhaps you may get a clue as to what is happening.

We are trying to win the race to the bottom.

[jlomax]

@Goneoffshore You my friend have ""Gone off the deep end"! I dont' have the luxury of time or stamina to have a full on political arguement with you. From your posts it appears that no matter WHAT I say you will retreat to your "the republicans are the big boogie man " fairy tale. What Ihave to say is this..do you really think in your mind that in this day and age in the 21st cenury..republicans or ANYONE would be happy to have the conditions those poor women were exposed to?

[57highland]

@jlomax Yes, In this day and age, some Republicans and maybe a few other types would be happy to have the conditions those poor women were exposed to, if they were able to get away with it. Come to think of it, someone IS getting away with it. How much are the people getting paid to make Nike sneakers? That's right; not much.

Human nature remains constant over time. It doesn't change as times and technology change.

[jlomax]

@Goneoffshore We have LAWS people have CIVIL RIGHTS. Those conditions only exist in this day and age in 3rd world countries!! Of course way back then at the time of the fire we NEEDED unions we NEEDED child labor laws. There was still a slavery mentality back then. Workers especially immigrants were treated like cattle. How dare you or the idiot "Rex" even venture to think that anyone would want human beings to suffer in those conditions.

I am a conservative and I find that comment offensive

[duckcluck123]

Ashes of Roses

[Treblemaker09]

@duckcluck123 I loved that book! It was so good.

[NewsDenizen]

Thanks for posting this. I have heard some of the interviews before but not edited together like this. Excellent job.

[starz7744]

Hey i got a report on the trail for this any help?

[MegaJdiggy]

75 dollers only paid for th funeral costs. So they never really got anything.

[xbooklover1996]

I finsihed reading Margaret Peterson Haddix's book Uprising a few days ago. Its an amazing book on the Triangle Shirtwaste Factory fire. It makes everything so vivid and you can really think about what all of these people might've gone through.

[Fireman4581]

can you please send me this video. I am a fireman instructor and would like to use this for classes

[bhipp75]

At the very beginning in this video (time: 0:33) there is an image looking North West in Manhattan. Approximately in the middle there is a large black building of very interesting architecture, almost a building within a building. I understand that this was recently torn down. Does anyone know exactly what this structure was? Thanks very much. Excellent video.

[PawnBACM]

It's funny the way people talk poorly of unions and their overall purpose, collective bargaining, the promotion of livable wages, safety issues, etc. Monopolies took hold of America long ago and their victims include the air and water people breath. CEO windfalls, deregulation, preferential treatment, whatever. Americans that refuse to recognize individuals such as these will remember them well some day. It will be them instead; it already is.

[progressiverebel]

God Bless Their Souls

[KnightOwl2006]

Great video. I pass by that building occasionally. Just a plaque to commemorate the fire. Most people walk by with no idea what happened there.

[fruitistic]

@KnightOwl2006 it is unfortunate that 9/11 will be a plaque on a building and few will have any idea what happened.

[CarlyLiao]

did you know the owners of the Triangle was not charged with any accounts?

[gossipgurl77]

actually they were. but it was later that they were fined. They were charged $67 for each death and in the end they ended up paying about 60,000 dollars. And they went to court and got arrested and were charged for locking the doors.

[Vaughany335]

@CarlyLiao Actually they had to pay $75 to every family in the factory. But thats it. Even though back then $75 was alot back then, that doesn't seem like justice....

[OPSoccer11]

i think that Margaret Peterson Haddix's book Uprising is a very great book that explains how these poor women and girls were treated at work, and how the poor conditions and strict rules of the owners of the Trinalge Shirtwaist Factory were a huge reason of why many of the workers died.

[indianagurl1235]

@OPSoccer11 I got that book from a library and i couldnt put it down or the life of me. i finished it in less than 3 days. and your more than right about it being a good book descibing the hardships of the three girls. not lying at all i cried more than once while reading that book. and now im virtually obsessed with anything that has to do with the triangle shirtwaist factory.

[rburian123]

Those poor women and girls. I have nothing to complain about in my job!

[142maj]

did you know they made a tv movie of this, in the 70's, i saw it when i was a child it was very sad,

[Beth50th2]

Thank you for this deeply moving video.

the fire was a tragedy, but i think that without it..we would never know how exploited these poor girls were.

[Treblemaker09]

@Beth50th2 You're right! It's so sad that only this tragedy got the attention of those in charge of immigrant jobs. Those women were so courageous. :)

[joeasmythe]

The schmata business was very tough in those days.

[kalamariew]

great story i remember it well