Better left alone than polluted by poor taste . . . an insertion of a related work might well be better. True improvisation requires more than the talents of the performer, but those of a composer.
@Lordlihige it isn't for sure that Bach wanted there to have a violin or harpsichord to improvise over those two chords. it's just a theory which may or may not be true.
i know what you mean, no worries, im just glad that so many people listen and/ or watch these videos , this music needs to be shared and loved, i love it, and im sure others will
Well... I have heard more creative things from other musicians. Karl Richter did a decent one. Viola players also make beautiful cadenzas on this movement.
But here, we have the groundbreaking.... C chord, B chord.
Thanks! I got confused because in the music sheet i have for this, the second movement is what would be the third movement here. Oh well. Thanks again. =]
@cassandra5322 Isn't that cool, being able to listen to one's favourite music on one's own hi-fi orchestra. Keeps me happy as i walk to the bus stop each morning!
This is NOT an incredibly short or genially economical slow movement, people.... ;-)
It's just a standard baroque (Phrygian) cadence - nothing more than a pause, a breathing parenthesis between movements. Bach just didn't write/leave/want a slow movement, for some reason or another - and THAT should be open to discussion
I don't normally like to trust Wikipedia, but this makes sense... "The second movement consists of a single measure with the two chords that make up a so-called 'Phrygian cadence' and—although there is no direct evidence to support it—it was likely that these chords are meant to surround or follow a cadenza improvised by a harpsichord or violin player."
qué oscuro pensamiento estaría pasando por la mente de Bach al escribir este adagio?.... porque dice más que cualquier otro, concentró todo en unas cuantas notas.... salve, maestro
Hahaha, this is one of Bach's jokes. The second movement is only 2 bars long, just a Phyrgian cadence. So the entire movement has been uploaded, and yes, it is only 13 seconds long.
@DynVec Because this is interlude, that is IMPROVISATION! Different harpsichordists plays different improvisations! Once I have heard 5-minute 2nd mvt of this concert!
@TheVanya1900 Capitalization is used for shouting and exclamation mark to indicate strong feelings. So you either ignore netiquette or you're a babbling fool, not in a place to give someone a lesson.
Okay, forget the riddle, that was stupid of me. But I have a record of the chamber orchestra berlin and THERE is a solo-part of harpsichord! And it sounds like Bach and not like an adaptaion...
This piece is actually longer and nicer. There aren't just two chords.
By the way: Even if this is the end of the adagio it seems to be more than a bridge to the third movement. It's more like a cue of the strings. Bach is actually "untouchable" for me, he's always logic in all his pieces but here he wrote something like a musical riddle. Of course the phrygian cadence is the right explication for this end but I think it's more than simple music.
My thesis is that Baroque music has more in common with modern jazz than people feel comfortable with. Modern just aint as modern as it thinks. You take what is written and commonly understood then improvise on it as the music inspires. Just like I made a play on words to make that point. This interlude is supposed to showcase the ad lib chops of one of the performers. Two chords. Such a performance practice also gives a break for the hardworking strings before the energetic last movement.
For all the commentators below: you can find HUNDREDS of examples of EXACTLY these two chords throughout the Baroque and beyond (before and after). It is an exceedingly common formula known as a "Phrygian cadence", a half cadence (non conclusive), generally used at the end of a slow movement, as a bridge to the next one; or as the ending cadence in a piece written in the Phrygian mode. No genius whatsoever was required here, everyday craftsmanship alone sufficed. Funny, uh? :-)
this short 2nd movement consisting of 2 chords that should be as a leaving point and an arrival point for the violin or clave, to introduce the 3rd movement, extraordinary Bach
back in the Baroque era, Ivory was expensive, so instead of having the modern day "white keys" white, they were back and had the ivory on the modern day "black keys"
Its called "Baroque" because this is where you "Break" it down and improvise. In modern understanding its called "Jazz".Two chords are all you need to display your chops.
Underneath Baroque music is a dixieland soul trying to bust out of the stiffling conventions of the culture of classical audiences.
I'm not an expert on etymology, but not all Jazz-style music is improvised. and musical improvisation existed long before the creation of Jazz. the word baroque has very little linguistic connection to "break".
I think you're close. As far as I know, Baroque painting and sculpture came before Baroque architecture.
But basically, Baroque as a music style has not much to do with Baroque as an art style (except, as I read somewhere, that they are both highly decorated).
Don't forget that quite often that the 2nd movement of this concerto is often opted as a harpsichord cadenza. I've also seen many orchestra opt to insert the Air on the G String. Just my two sense
it's not very clear yet if this part was supposed to be played as it was written, or if it was meant to improvise over it. Some authors play just those two chords, others improvise maybe one or two minutes... Most of Bach's improvisations were probably not written down, except maybe some ones that he wanted to remain as he thought them, like the harpsichord one in Brandembourg #5...
In concertos in the baroque period, there were two things you could opt for. A series of chords in which one of the soloists or continuo players would improvise a harmony or something, or you could go for a nice intimate melody that eventually became more prevalent. Bach here opted for the previously mentioned type.
Yes this is the whole second movement. People have made adagios for it but adagio second movements weren't as common in the baroque era. It was a new thing. And even if it wasn't the full song calm down peole
This is indeed the whole movement. From the liner notes to the Boston Baroque's recording: "The Adagio separating the two fast movemets of this concerto consists only of two chords. Given the finished quality of the manuscript that Bach presented to the Margrave of Brandenburg, there is no reason to suppose that anything else is meanst to be supplied here, other than perhaps a connecting flourish between the two chords."
That is the whole movement. The second movement consists of a single measure with the two chords that make up a Phrygian mode cadence and—although there is no direct evidence to support it—it was likely that these chords are meant to surround or follow a cadenza improvised by a harpsichord or violin player.
It seems like this movement has an optional harpsichord cadenza that can add a minute or two to its length, but this group opted for a shorter rendition. I kinda love it for how short it is :)
"Have a pause, have a TWIX" - sad Bach. XD
WimeSTone 8 months ago 3
@WimeSTone Need a moment? Chew it over with the...second movement of J.S. Bach's Brandenburg Concerto No. 3 in G. :p
ThatRachGirl 8 months ago
This was written on a tissue
while Bach went for a coffee break
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lol lol lol
belialah 10 months ago
13秒…だと…?
KojiWada060724 10 months ago
isnt it funny that 247,487 people watched the shortest movement of baroque music ever?
arisussmanpianoman 11 months ago 5
This is referred to as a bridge or recitative. Bach must not have felt like writing a second movement.
Lassannn 11 months ago
Better left alone than polluted by poor taste . . . an insertion of a related work might well be better. True improvisation requires more than the talents of the performer, but those of a composer.
dolofonos 1 year ago
Bach must have spent forever on this XD.
NSProductions1432 1 year ago 3
I just had to hear this whole movement once again...
mrwhypiano 1 year ago 9
Lol guess Bach's hands got sore after writing so many concertos prior
Makeoutparadise2 1 year ago 2
Where is the improvisation? This movement is for improvise in the violin or in the harpsichord.
Lordlihige 1 year ago
@Lordlihige it isn't for sure that Bach wanted there to have a violin or harpsichord to improvise over those two chords. it's just a theory which may or may not be true.
hellhammer161 1 year ago
Where is the improvisation? This movement is for improvise in the violin or in the harpsichord.
Lordlihige 1 year ago
Stunning piece.
floooky1 1 year ago
(haha...) and I was really waiting for a serious concert. great peice though, simple and sweet.
pacificrules 1 year ago
Epic.
Jem7Vellz 1 year ago 2
hehe - catches so many folks out don't it :D
TheStevewhelan 1 year ago
...and then Bach died
jaxxstraw 1 year ago 4
I think there’s supposed to be a cadenza (probably harpsichord) right here.
Avagadrostein 1 year ago
@Avagadrostein I think I even heard a version with a harpsichord cadenza, followed by these two wonderful notes we're hearing here.
Alexjr1543 1 year ago
@Alexjr1543 its actually more than just 2 notes, they are 2 chords,
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
@witchcraftlord That's what I meant by "notes". I guess I really need to work on my choice of words.
Alexjr1543 1 year ago
i know what you mean, no worries, im just glad that so many people listen and/ or watch these videos , this music needs to be shared and loved, i love it, and im sure others will
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
i think, Bach wanted a Allegro part, but he mistaked by wrote "Adagio", so he wrote only two notes, one system, and then, THE ALLEGRO!!
otpenagos 1 year ago
wow, 212k views for a video 2 notes and 14 seconds long. magnificent.
goodcommentguy 1 year ago 5
That lazy son of a ......
YoshuaRider 1 year ago 5
he was hurry to finish it
putoamodetodo 1 year ago
LMAO!!! I forgot how short this movement was....
Cranfillr 1 year ago
klasse video jungs aus Deutschland? Bin total einsam wer hat Lust zu schreiben
judy1989judy 1 year ago 14
lolololololol
majav15mg 1 year ago
mmmm.......
butterfingers6m 1 year ago
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Nimenicamine01 1 year ago
@Nimenicamine01 yes, yes he does. :P
theultimateplu 1 year ago
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Nimenicamine01 1 year ago
Well... I have heard more creative things from other musicians. Karl Richter did a decent one. Viola players also make beautiful cadenzas on this movement.
But here, we have the groundbreaking.... C chord, B chord.
chomskyFTW 1 year ago
@chomskyFTW Actually its A Minor over C and then B
Violinkid05 1 year ago
@Violinkid05 Ah yes, my ear must have been off that day. Also, a look at the score confirms it. Really, I wish this player had been more creative...
chomskyFTW 1 year ago
@chomskyFTW MM I'm sure they know the standers or "traditions" rather, of this movement, and simply choose not use them
Violinkid05 1 year ago
ver esta de outra forma; ach eu q. esta obra foi inacabada por motivos de doença de BACH, pesquisar para ver e confirmar.
cayoharksen 1 year ago
this is just a lead sheet for another two minutes of improvisation, i guess.
(search wikipedia for this piece)
zuckstocker 1 year ago
Personally, I thing this is too much improvisation.
[insert sarcastically arrogant smily here]
pianopolly 1 year ago
i love this , so simple , so wonderful
witchcraftlord 1 year ago
Wow. That's 13 seconds of history being made. =D
TwiddleXTormenT 1 year ago
bach is so awesome he made a 14 second adagio. now thats what i cal BACHOLOJI.
regaldrifter 1 year ago
nunhm jemand bei laune und lust mit mir zu chatn hab auch bilder wenn ihr sehen wollt
TravisHYoungz 1 year ago
Where is the second movement for this concerto? I can't seem to find it.
TwiddleXTormenT 1 year ago
@TwiddleXTormenT
This is the 2nd mvt. I think your looking for the 3rd movement ^^
lolturtle13 1 year ago
Thanks! I got confused because in the music sheet i have for this, the second movement is what would be the third movement here. Oh well. Thanks again. =]
TwiddleXTormenT 1 year ago
One of the best slow movements of the Brandenburg Concertos.
HerrWarja 1 year ago
Why tease?
thebookmann 1 year ago
I've got this WHOLE movement memorized.
cassandra5322 2 years ago 84
@cassandra5322 Isn't that cool, being able to listen to one's favourite music on one's own hi-fi orchestra. Keeps me happy as i walk to the bus stop each morning!
locomotifx 1 year ago 2
@cassandra5322 I know, but this really isent the fool mvt, its really 30 seconds long !
LULLYxoxo 1 year ago
@LULLYxoxo
The score says otherwise;
or you mean 30 seconds- 2 minutes including the optional violin or harpsichord cadenza...
cassandra5322 1 year ago
This is NOT an incredibly short or genially economical slow movement, people.... ;-)
It's just a standard baroque (Phrygian) cadence - nothing more than a pause, a breathing parenthesis between movements. Bach just didn't write/leave/want a slow movement, for some reason or another - and THAT should be open to discussion
bersa888 2 years ago 4
I don't normally like to trust Wikipedia, but this makes sense... "The second movement consists of a single measure with the two chords that make up a so-called 'Phrygian cadence' and—although there is no direct evidence to support it—it was likely that these chords are meant to surround or follow a cadenza improvised by a harpsichord or violin player."
bobmusick 2 years ago
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bersa888 2 years ago
Would the keyboardist be doing the fugue-ing? lol Or is it possible for a violin to play one?
bobmusick 2 years ago
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bersa888 2 years ago
Yeah.. I wish I could improvise a fugue. Or write one for that matter.. But thank you for the info!
bobmusick 2 years ago
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witchcraftlord 1 year ago
blows me away every time.
CalebTheGuitarist 2 years ago 4
qué oscuro pensamiento estaría pasando por la mente de Bach al escribir este adagio?.... porque dice más que cualquier otro, concentró todo en unas cuantas notas.... salve, maestro
joycedusoleil 2 years ago
The term 'Phrygian' is, strictly speaking, inaccurate: the cadence does not represent or belong to the Phrygian mode.
witchcraftlord 2 years ago
Yes that's true: the reason they call it that is because it's reminiscent of the phrygian mode (or the scale built on the 3rd degree of a major key).
But the fact is you answered your own question, there is such a thing as a Phrygian (half) cadence. Gotta love the internet.
basscl1 2 years ago
i dunno , i just copied and pasted that from google, ..im going to talk to my piano teacher about it
witchcraftlord 2 years ago
Unbelievable. A movement that lasts only 13 seconds?!
colfranz1278 2 years ago 3
Ha, that is actually hilarious. Bach, you little genius. If you like this you'll like Haydn's "The Surprise".
willowwaxwork 2 years ago
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
danenhod 2 years ago
13 seconds ? WTF ?!
DynVec 2 years ago 49
Hahaha, this is one of Bach's jokes. The second movement is only 2 bars long, just a Phyrgian cadence. So the entire movement has been uploaded, and yes, it is only 13 seconds long.
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DynVec 2 years ago
Well if you really want to get academic, you can write a song much shorter than that - in fact you could write one that endures for no time at all.
basscl1 2 years ago
I wonder if it'll be in the Guinness book of world record though, You Suffer is.
DynVec 2 years ago 2
ive heard of perfect, plagal and deceptive cadence, but not Phyrgian cadence. did you make that up? not trying to be rude..
witchcraftlord 2 years ago
@DynVec Because this is interlude, that is IMPROVISATION! Different harpsichordists plays different improvisations! Once I have heard 5-minute 2nd mvt of this concert!
TheVanya1900 1 year ago
@TheVanya1900 Capitalization is used for shouting and exclamation mark to indicate strong feelings. So you either ignore netiquette or you're a babbling fool, not in a place to give someone a lesson.
DynVec 1 year ago
@DynVec The violins get two half notes. :-)
Spangley03 1 year ago
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This video sucks what a fucking idiot he didnt even upload the whole thing.
VexD420 2 years ago
This is supposed to be improvised on. As far as I'm concerned.
majav15mg 2 years ago
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bersa888 2 years ago
Okay, forget the riddle, that was stupid of me. But I have a record of the chamber orchestra berlin and THERE is a solo-part of harpsichord! And it sounds like Bach and not like an adaptaion...
Echnaton1993 2 years ago
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bersa888 2 years ago
Where's the solo-part of the harpsichord?
This piece is actually longer and nicer. There aren't just two chords.
By the way: Even if this is the end of the adagio it seems to be more than a bridge to the third movement. It's more like a cue of the strings. Bach is actually "untouchable" for me, he's always logic in all his pieces but here he wrote something like a musical riddle. Of course the phrygian cadence is the right explication for this end but I think it's more than simple music.
Echnaton1993 2 years ago
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bersa888 2 years ago
My thesis is that Baroque music has more in common with modern jazz than people feel comfortable with. Modern just aint as modern as it thinks. You take what is written and commonly understood then improvise on it as the music inspires. Just like I made a play on words to make that point. This interlude is supposed to showcase the ad lib chops of one of the performers. Two chords. Such a performance practice also gives a break for the hardworking strings before the energetic last movement.
stevenstreets3 2 years ago
You are perfectly right!
bersa888 2 years ago
Take your thesis and get the hell outta here! Damn! I just wanna listen to some Bach!
tough0crowd0eh9 2 years ago 2
For all the commentators below: you can find HUNDREDS of examples of EXACTLY these two chords throughout the Baroque and beyond (before and after). It is an exceedingly common formula known as a "Phrygian cadence", a half cadence (non conclusive), generally used at the end of a slow movement, as a bridge to the next one; or as the ending cadence in a piece written in the Phrygian mode. No genius whatsoever was required here, everyday craftsmanship alone sufficed. Funny, uh? :-)
bersa888 2 years ago
very clever
formaggioneone 2 years ago
sans aucun intéret
jeansebastienbach5 2 years ago
Bach must have used all of his musical knowledge to put this movement together. Fantastic.
goodcommentguy 2 years ago 2
True. when he played several minutes improvising to these two accords...
golaxo 2 years ago
Hahaha.... I love this... 13 second movement... But still, 13 seconds of heaven...
FranzofL 2 years ago 4
wow
13 seconds of heaven. Would you wrote it if I just showed you the video without knowing who is the composer ? :)
golaxo 2 years ago
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bersa888 2 years ago
Is this the whole movement, Bach must have bin out of fantasy writing this
SonofDostojevskij 2 years ago
The easiest movement for this entire piece... obviously. It still has a bit of a dramatic feel to it, maybe because it's just two slow notes.
Alexjr1543 2 years ago
this short 2nd movement consisting of 2 chords that should be as a leaving point and an arrival point for the violin or clave, to introduce the 3rd movement, extraordinary Bach
beethomozart 2 years ago
that's so weird that the colour of the keys are reversed! :o
GreenHatemerald 2 years ago
well. it's a harpsichord....
cassandra5322 2 years ago 2
yes, I know that, but on the harpsichords I've seen the keys are like the piano.
GreenHatemerald 2 years ago
There is a little number of harpsichords with same kay colours like on a piano.
mrharpsi 2 years ago
They used to make all keyboards like that. Harpsichords, Clavichords, Organs, and even the early Forte pianos.
mortson978 2 years ago
"It would have saved a lot of elephants!"
place910 2 years ago 2
back in the Baroque era, Ivory was expensive, so instead of having the modern day "white keys" white, they were back and had the ivory on the modern day "black keys"
bobmusick 2 years ago 2
you learn something new evey day!
ramiraramira 2 years ago
so true!!!
bobmusick 2 years ago
So many people confused this with the 3rd movement...
goodcommentguy 2 years ago
I could listen to that all day..... all 10 seconds of it.
webboffin 3 years ago
Its called "Baroque" because this is where you "Break" it down and improvise. In modern understanding its called "Jazz".Two chords are all you need to display your chops.
Underneath Baroque music is a dixieland soul trying to bust out of the stiffling conventions of the culture of classical audiences.
stevenstreets3 3 years ago
I'm not an expert on etymology, but not all Jazz-style music is improvised. and musical improvisation existed long before the creation of Jazz. the word baroque has very little linguistic connection to "break".
SlipperyChickenzz 2 years ago
Yeah, the word "baroque" has nothing to do with that.
HARMONICO101 2 years ago
i think the word 'Baroque' indicated an architecture pattern initially.
gocymru 2 years ago
I think you're close. As far as I know, Baroque painting and sculpture came before Baroque architecture.
But basically, Baroque as a music style has not much to do with Baroque as an art style (except, as I read somewhere, that they are both highly decorated).
tehdarkcloud 2 years ago
Some passages are tiresome :P
pcmendes1973 3 years ago
Don't forget that quite often that the 2nd movement of this concerto is often opted as a harpsichord cadenza. I've also seen many orchestra opt to insert the Air on the G String. Just my two sense
txzoein 3 years ago
I don't understand. I bought the brandenburg concertos a few months back and #3 part ii adagio is 1:44 long...
hosposits 3 years ago
Should this really be considered a separate movement? I mean, its just a one bar long segment of tempo change.
AsSomedayItMayHappen 3 years ago
sure
roman9dulcei 3 years ago
Short, but sweet.
ascasq 3 years ago
nice!, though wendy/walter carlos' version is the best on the switched on bach record
bumice911 3 years ago
i agree it is totally awsome with all that stuff in the background.
MillyProductions 3 years ago
what? the whole movement is only 13-second long?!
reebachan 3 years ago
yes it is a movement but its more like a transition from the allegro moderato to the allegro
im playing this piece in my orchestra...the whole thing-- not just this movement...lol
horselovermeme 3 years ago 2
it's not very clear yet if this part was supposed to be played as it was written, or if it was meant to improvise over it. Some authors play just those two chords, others improvise maybe one or two minutes... Most of Bach's improvisations were probably not written down, except maybe some ones that he wanted to remain as he thought them, like the harpsichord one in Brandembourg #5...
Azurlake 2 years ago
In concertos in the baroque period, there were two things you could opt for. A series of chords in which one of the soloists or continuo players would improvise a harmony or something, or you could go for a nice intimate melody that eventually became more prevalent. Bach here opted for the previously mentioned type.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
es lo mas bonito dl 3 concierto ,lo malo esk dura poko,puede ser k no lo acabara
juliamiju 4 years ago 2
Yes this is the whole second movement. People have made adagios for it but adagio second movements weren't as common in the baroque era. It was a new thing. And even if it wasn't the full song calm down peole
purtykitty24 4 years ago
Bach era un cachondo. :)
narval77 4 years ago
XD
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musiKraZ 4 years ago
thats the whole movement , only tow chords and the "bajo continuo"
morrales 4 years ago
This is indeed the whole movement. From the liner notes to the Boston Baroque's recording: "The Adagio separating the two fast movemets of this concerto consists only of two chords. Given the finished quality of the manuscript that Bach presented to the Margrave of Brandenburg, there is no reason to suppose that anything else is meanst to be supplied here, other than perhaps a connecting flourish between the two chords."
Jitpring 4 years ago 5
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what is this a tease?
ShutUpNShred 4 years ago
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I hate when people don't play the whole freaking thing.
Loverboy954 4 years ago
That is the whole movement. The second movement consists of a single measure with the two chords that make up a Phrygian mode cadence and—although there is no direct evidence to support it—it was likely that these chords are meant to surround or follow a cadenza improvised by a harpsichord or violin player.
violoner 4 years ago 7
NO! Why is this only 13 seconds long?! If you have the rest, please put it up, would love to hear it...
Oh and thank you for all the other videos!
ThreeUnderscores 4 years ago
That's really how long the second movement for this concerto is :P
xrosesxneverxfadex 4 years ago 2
I could have sworn it was longer... my mistake.
ThreeUnderscores 4 years ago
It seems like this movement has an optional harpsichord cadenza that can add a minute or two to its length, but this group opted for a shorter rendition. I kinda love it for how short it is :)
marclavius 4 years ago
You must have been thinking of the 14 second version :p
retread01 4 years ago
Its alot longer
wolfgang7445 4 years ago
is this one that short?
Nacho242000 4 years ago
Wow. That was the best 6 seconds ever.
heituzi 4 years ago
Es el movimiento más imaginativo de Bach. Incluso supera al vals del segundo de Les Luthiers
tigrankalevian 4 years ago
Yay for Phrygian Half Cadences.
marclavius 4 years ago 6
I adore the music of J.S. Bach (AKA John Brook).
TrustyShellback 4 years ago
Cut...
texrah 5 years ago
Hahahahahaha. I love this movement.
liuesho 5 years ago