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  • The thing is this Guy Made a video that YOUR NOT African American/Black if your ethnicity standard is 50% both ethnicity. Im Nigerian and Filipino, And I have the features that a Filipino would have, But when I go across checking those questions off on the test, I check off Pacific Islander, because again I Lived with my mom, growing up with Filipino Food, My moms side of the family, and not really seeing my Dads side. So I agree, I consider myself more Filipino than Nigerian...

  • Thank You So Much For INforming that idiot. I'm half black half mexican too and go through the same shit everyday at school. Honestly i think people who are half have harder times adapting to society then full blooded people. We are forced to choose a side by society and it just sucks. The way i see it though, the way you are raised is what you are.

  • Society is a code word for "white".I don't think black people give that much of a hard time.They have plenty to do already.If you have both parents in the house. Your source code will remain intact.If you are a healthy young person , you should thank god because that's the only thing I personally consider a gift. I have seen so much shit. I am still very much scared.

  • your sister is SEXY

  • there' nothing mix about you bro you look just like jaylove yourself lol a plain black man! hahah!

  • FUCK JAYLOVE!! hes a racist piece of shit who hates biracials because he has his own self hate becasue hes dark skin

  • I think it's great that you identify with your Philippine side even though I would NEVER have guessed you were mixed. You don't have to be as light as Beyonce, Alicia or Mariah to be mixed and that's what lots of people don't understand. No one should tell you what to identify with. You are who you are and you are just as mixed as any other mixed kid out there.

    Although I think the tests ask you what race you are, not what race you like. The whole Hispanic thing is a bit extreme coz it's a lie

  • oh crap when you said you were Philippine i was like damn i knew it lol..yea you look mixed.

  • Thats stupid if your mixed then your mixed no matter how u look or act. people just need to stop thinking that u can only be one race cause obviously u can be more. Just stupid I just wiah people would stop goshh

  • your both wrong but a little right at the same time its true that its very important how you feel inside but its important what you accually are too and what on the outside because thats what people see.

  • @jaylove u you crazy lol, infusedo8 is proud of his hertitage, he said he doesnt care but he responsed back to you and he came back with pictures for your ass lol.i bet you stupid right now !

  • I HAVE STUDIED THE EVOLUTION OF SKIN COLOR and infused08 does NOT look black. Being "mixed" is determined by your features NOT skin tone.

  • Jay Love has maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa­aaaajor issues! I'd rather play with a ouija board than watch a JayLove video.

  • JayLove should stop making race a big deal, you look like a person and that's all that matters.

  • @Aliun625 so true...if he didn't look human, then I would be seriously concerned!

  • nice video infused08 you owned him. your pretty awesome and so are your videos.

  • You look 150% black to me.. I have a black friends who looks a little bit like a mixed or somethin, but you look black.. But anyways its ur wright to choose ur race part.

  • But i agree that the guy in this video looks very black, and not biracial..

  • i agree with this 100 percent..i am mixed with guyanese,puerto rican and east indian and people want me to identify as black...my parents arent black they have differen cultural backgrounds and even though i do have a brown skin tone..that does represent lineages from africa since everone came from there i cant indentify with black my parents arent its different

  • Ad a lot of times Pacific Islanders look black so your not denying your black side.

  • I'm mixed but Obama is Black.

  • the bible says you are what your father is, but nigga you look like a black man.

    you changed your accent, you sound white, not asian or nothing else. martin luther king was a false prophet. you can be smart without changing your accent. i personally think you are a joke, and a disgrace to your father. we are not black but israelites

  • Jaylove...honestly ....i think he is self-conscious about what he looks like!!..thats why he hates mixed people so bad!!..Cause he is jealous !!

  • @bellacortez I sense that too!

  • Who is the woman in white dress (in the PIcture) ?

  • Loadfaster, kimora lee, amerie, tiger wood, tyson Beckford, Neyo, cassie, and crystal kay also Naomi Campbell, they are black asians but they are difference genes. It depends on genes, also do u know that Oprah Winfrey is 3% east asian ? She doesn't look asian at all because only 3%

  • @missexi718 thats cool I guess... Im not sure what your getting at exactly....

  • A black man invented the SUPER SOAKER? Martin Luther King invisioned equality? Serisoulsy man?

    DUDE Man, maybe your playing around and I missed the sarcasm or somthing, but if thats the level your understanding of black peoples controbutions to the world I would be inclined to believe you are somewhat ashamed of your blackness..

    No man please. This would be a shame of catastrophic levels if the super soaker and MLK "insisioning equality" were quality examples of Afro contributions.

  • @Loadfaster yes i am aware of the spelling errors

  • I don't think Jay Love wants to take DNA test and maybe he cares more about Africa than native American and European. As you know we all admixtures. I'm part native American descent, African descent, and European which is Irish and Spanish. I'm light skinned black. When I fill out an application, I write black native american and that is who I am.

  • @missexi718 Im very light skinned aswell and I have some Irsih in me Im also part Panamanian born in Jamaica rasied in Canada. I got some mixed cousins and all that. When asked Im either Jamaican or Black...

    Why do I say that? Cause I want to know where we all came from and my research shows me we all decend from the Black man... I mean no diss but the Black man is the original man. We all decend from blackness.

    Ancient Egypt IS BLACK/NEGRO and Greek Empire was designed after Ancient Greece

  • @missexi718 the fact that infused would IMPLY that hes shouldnt be ashamed about being black because blacks "invisioned Equality" and invented the supersoaker is probably one of the biggest disses to the black race I have ever herd...

    Seriously Blacks BUILT THE PYRAMIDS MAN! IF you believe in Jesus (which I dont) Jesus had to have been black.. and this cat is talkin about the super soaker...

    This is just scratching the surface....

    I wish black folks knew the truth there history.

  • WOW!!! This JAYLOVE47 has NEVER seen a FILIPINO!!! This guy must think that in order to be asian you have to look chinese korean or japanese!! what an IGNORANT FOOL!!!! ha ha ha!!!! LMAO!!! You owned this idiot BIG TIME!!! That's what happens when everything you know about the world comes out from your TV or your friends from "THE HOOD" what a LOST CASE!! XD XD!! MESTIZOS FOREVER MAN!!!! i sometimes wish stupidity could be helped, but it CAN'T!! XD XD XD!!

  • Yeah I am a medium brown, multiracial (African, Irish and Native American) and I found his videos so offensive. Both of my parents are biracial. I can not believe how racist and stupid people are! One drop rule is racist! I embrace ALL 3 races. The only self hater here is Jaylove. In fact, from my day to day experience...most people don't even fucking care about race! Who cares? People love me because of me...not my skin tone. Jaylove obviously doesn't respect diversity.

  • What Jay Love needs to do is find out what all he's mixed with, & be proud of whatever it is- not down you-Jay Love is not pure African. He needs to find out what hes mixed with, and what kind of "white" and Indian or any other race is in his linnage.

  • People, I really don't care where you were from and I don't care if you're black or mixed with any other ethnicity so be proud who you are. Infused08 choose to be mixed then that's him and that's fine. I have no problems with mixed races people. I am half black native american and Irish. When I fill out an application I will check other and write it down black native American because that's my choice. I'm proud of my both ancestry. People can choose what they decide.

  • It's so funny how people who aren't "mixed" always have the strongest opinion about it. That guy is clearly dillusional

  • @RellaBella92 --- seems to me that ifusion made a choice though.. Hes Asian or philipino/filipino if he has to choose...

    I think if You go back in the history of the Philipino they were also Black anyways. Didnt Black People get there before the spanish did?

    Im pretty sure but not totally sure...

    IF thats true then this might lead one to believe he is mostly black... Techinally Im "mixed" but as far as I see iif I had to choose Im Jamaican/Black. technically Malcolm X was mixed.

  • @Loadfaster I see ur point but I don't think he chose Filipino over Black, he said he lived there so it makes sense why he's closer to that side. But when you think about it most people (mixed or not) are closer to one parent's side of the family than the other's. The only difference in our case is that one parent's family happens to be a different race than the other. I'm puertorican and black. Does that make me more black than spanish? sure but its all semantics

  • @RellaBella92 Sorry man but he did choose. He told us in the other video that if he had to choose hed choose Filipino.... He did chose! which is fine to me!

    But personally I think he chose filipino cause he has an extremely low understanding of Black contributions..

    I have a sneeky suspision he knows only what white folks have told him blacks have done. meaning whatever he knows about blacks had to have been validated by white media in order for him to concern himkself with it.

  • @Loadfaster to be honest, I think that if he said he chose black and denied his fillipino side we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Most of ya'll wouldn't even think twice about it if he said it. In my experience, black people care way more about me being "half black" than anyone else. Why? Because black people have been pitted against each other for so long that it's become second nature to respond that way. Too bad we can't be more like Jamaica "out of many one people"

  • @RellaBella92 if he chose black we probably woudnlt have this conversation cause by looking at him he looks black, thats almost certianly why.... of course I wouldnt think twice cause he looks black... Genetically Im willing to believe hes more black

    Like I said Im ok with choosing filipino over black. My problem is when he implyed he should be proud of his blackness cause theyve made super soakers and invisioned equality, its like a diss...

  • im not concened with people thinking Im racist or whatever. My girl is white, my uncle is white I got mixed raced cousins my great grand father is Irsh.. If you saw me youd almost certianly think im a product of a mixed race couple.

    people want to remember the "out of many one people" motto but we dont want to remember the teachings of Marcus Garvey. Its important care about your black roots also. I dont think infused really gives a rats ass...

  • @RellaBella92 I should also say I dont support Jayloves foolishness either... Ive seen a video with him saying that if your mixed your not black, then he states if you are mixed your black...

    Jaylove doesnt think before he posts.. But infused I think is bullshitting us. by pretending to be conserned with his black side.

    HES ALOUD TO NOT CARE! BUT dont pretend to care so people will think better of you. be real

  • @RellaBella92 im also finding most half black folks are afraid to be concerned with the trruth cause there afraid white people or others will see them as whiners and complainiers...

    basically its easier to just have black DNA but walk talk act and think within the boundaires of the status quo..

    I am EXTREMLY LIGHT SKINNED for a person with 2 brown skinned black parents. lighter than most mixed raced kids. But I know the blackmans history is vast! Im betting vast beyond infuseds understanding

  • @SecretsInMe He specifically said that he puts Asian/Pacific Islander down on apps and other things but if he's allowed to mark more than one he'll put down black as well. In the other video he used the passing thing as an example and he cited all races and didn't exclude black. He just doesn't know much about his black side.

  • @SecretsInMe he has to choose one...if he was half white nobody would talk shit about him putting down asian....

  • in my opinion you look mad asian lol...but i mean theres nothing wrong with identifying more with one side as long as you acknowledge both sides, which you do! so keep being your awesome self bro!

  • "There's nothing to be ashamed of". exactly. how are people gonna call HIM ashamed when they're the only ones mentioning of all this backwards shit like slavery and the one-drop rule like that shit is relevant anymore? He can say what HE wants. even if he is ashamed, that's HIS problem. everybody else needs to worry about themselves.

  • @jaylove47 Just Shut the Fuck Up Fagget Noob Kid!!! you're just jelous u dnt have FILIPINO blood!! Just shut your fucking mouth up dick!!!

  • Ok...First of all you do look full black..and putting down pacific islander or whatever is really your business...but to the world you are black...that's the first thing you see...so i can kinda understand where both of you are coming from.

  • It is on you but to me, you do look black more than Asian and you don't look like as tiger wood or amerie or kimora lee. Some Asian people have African blood line but it goes by their genes. Anyway I really don't care if they prefer to be mixed, white or black and that's on them.

  • Oh my god

  • What Latino actually refers to is not that you are from Latin America but that you ancestors were originally from countries that belonged to Latin Europe, Italy, Spain, Portugal, France Romania Just like Hispanic or Hispano means ur ancestors came from Spain The King of Spain actually ruled over 2 Italian cities Naples & Sicily & Napoleon wanted to rule not just Latin Europe but also Latin America. Their is actually a correct usage of the word Latino & Hispanic which is not used correctly 2day

  • dAMN HIS SISTER IS FINE!!! <3

  • JAYLOVE47 you just got owned haha

  • However, it is easy to spot self hating because a person usually over compensates by trying to be more like the other race or go out of their way to emphasis their other culture or ethnicity by pointing it out. Take for example Dominicans like Sammy Sosa who claims Latino & goes to the Latin grammys year after year & then bleaches his skin & wears green contacts. Now if he was really Latino he wouldn't have to do that now would he. Always going to every Latino event. Stop self hate or b Sammy

  • @sportsmarvel Now you're just being a prick. Yes, Dominicans need to acknowledge and embrace their African roots, but just because he's not a white/Indian mix like most Latinos doesn't mean he's not Latino at all! LATINO MEANS YOU ARE LATIN AMERICAN AND LAST TIME I CHECKED THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC WAS IN LATIN AMERICA! CUNT!

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  • @GloomySunset what happen was when a person from the Caribbean used Hispanic people actually would say so you are Spanish. Obviously for a majority of the population the term did not work because many of the peoples ancestors came from different places other than Spain. Like Africa.

    4 ex

    In 1574, a census taken of the Greater Antilles, reported 1,000 Spaniards and 12,000 African slaves on Hispaniola so the minority of the Island could claim Hispanic & the majority could not source wikipedia

  • @GloomySunset wow how am I being a prick by stating facts. Isn't Haiti also in so called Latin America and they are not consider Latino along with Jamaica another island that was originally found by the Spanish. Another thing Latino didn't even start out in east coast in the east coast they actually called themselves Hispanics while in western states they called themselves Latino even though they are not in a Latin American country they were in the United States.

  • People are sooo effin stupid !!!!! Why are you all sooo wrapped up in what race he calls himself or what he has in him ? And you do look Black and Asian......nevermind what anybody says....thats ur biz,not anyone else ! :( SMH

  • u do hate urself, why would u choose passific islander or asian when ur black u pulled out the black option u self hater prolly gonna produce white kids lol

  • @SkaterPunkie honestly even though he can't admit he totally discounted the black race. This is a sign of self hatred. Their is actually Africans in Africa lighter then this self hating black guy. I mean Jaylove47 is lighter then him. Honestly it is super pathetic is all I can say. You see it a lot with mixed children who rather identify with any other race then black. I think these people not only loose respect with the people they are wanting to be but also with the black race.

  • @sportsmarvel preach!

  • @sportsmarvel You know what's funny ? This cat seem like he'd go out of his way to tell you he's half this and half that and at the same time somewhat push his black fam to the side . My thing is it's funny how some of these kids from multiracial backgrounds down play their black side on the low, but at the same time they're influenced by hip hop culture .For proof, check out his " I love haters" t-shirt. Isn't that something?

  • @BlackMusicGenre Exactly when have you seen a white half Filipino say got out of his way to explain to people he is half Filipino. Also if you call them Filipino I am sure they would be fine with it or Asian. If you call them white again they would be fine with it. I know a lot of White service people who married Filipinos who children don't act like this kid & going to this extent pointing out they are Filipino. Then he raps but gets offended when people call him black. I feel sorry for him.

  • @sportsmarvel Well , you know how the saying goes ... "Everything But The Burden" . When it's time to party and hip hop ,everybody "wants to be down" , but when it's time to "get that job or promotion" they reach for the top of the racial hiearchy .Paul Mooney said it best ... " Everybody wanna be N#**ga , but don't nobody wanna be Ni**g@". People nowadays are funny . lol

  • @BlackMusicGenre I mean look on this planet their is Afro French, Afro German, Afro English, Afro Japanese, Afro Korean, Afro Mexican, Afro Brazilian, Afro Colombian. Afro Dominican, Afro Puerto Rican, Afro Pueruvian, Afro Pinos, & Afro Caucas (African/Caucasians) or Mulattoes, or Oreos black on the outside white on the inside. Obviously their is more than just color that can be associated with blackness. Hair texture, facial features, so people shouldn't be offended if people ask them questions

  • JayLove is 100% If you knew what Hispanic Latino was you wouldn't be consider Latino Hispanic. Go 2 this site I have know affiliation with I believe it is African American owned and check out this debate about what is Hispanic/Latino. Sammy Sosa, David Ortiz, Zoe Saldana, Rosario Dawson, & Carlos Delgado are not Latino/Hispanic.

    just copy & paste the link below & put it in google search bar.

    sicklycat com/2011/05/05/afro-latinos-th­e-forgotten-blacks-video/

  • JAYLOVE is right! In the US, despite how you feel inside, you'll be treated by what you look like...and you look TOTALLY BLACK! Sorry, son...black your free loving parents for not preparing you for reality. You're clueless and so confused! I feel sorry for you!

  • is that a coconut popcicle i see? O_O

  • I never thought that interracial marriages is this serious of a problem in america. I thought americans were open minded people and free people but I guess I was wrong. Whats wrong with interracial marriages really? Two humans in love is never a bad thing.

  • JAYLOVE47 pwned!!!!

  • oh and "specific islander" ... like is he that fucking ignorant ahhaha

  • don't listen to those fucking haters..... Don't worry - their lives suck so they try to bring others down. I'm asian & i can see the asian in you. I have a very strong sense of identifying that. LOL and he sounds like an idiot "youtube, which is basically national television" he's just embarassing himself hahahah i got a good laugh though

  • I can tell that you are both Black and Asian. I discovered that I and other family member have features similar to you the slanted eyes and high cheek bones. Both my parents are black African but on my maternal grandma side, one of my great grandparents may have had some type of Asian blood. Continue to embrace your AfroAmerican/Filipino heritage.

  • You look like Avon Barksdale from the THE WIRE. :-)

  • im multiracial but i fully embrace the black side of me because i personally think that culture is cool and reflective of my personality!!!!!!!!!!

  • FUCKIN DESTROYED!!!!!!

  • @nlytend1 yea but about the part where you go 50 years back in time does not count cuz if u listened he didnt live in America over in Asia was a totally different life style I mean he if a white person was to c him they may think he's black but it don't matter cuz he not in America..I'm jus sayin because I'm biracial with black n latino but I have a Latino mind set cuz that's all I was around but I look black I jus agree wit infused08 100% I'm sorry

  • jaylove's point is that if he and infused08 went back 50 years, they would be treated the same by racist whites in the US. As a result, infused08 should deny his genes, which says he biracial, and claim "black" b/c of the racist whites' ignorance. infused08's point is that not all black people are alike (though he himself isn't fully black). They differ worldwide. Eg. Just compare Black Brits, to Nigerians, Jamaicans, Ethiopians, or Americans, etc. They differ culturally.

  • the girl on the right is FINE!

  • heeey i've been to philly.

  • I think it's funny that Jaylove called you a "little boy" when you two are the same age  SMH!

  • All the countries other than the USA that you listed were Asian, you need to expand your vocabulary.

  • btw, infused08 you are cute!

  • i agree with you....just ignore jaylove....he's a complete moron who obviously has some kind of racial identity issue himself, lol. he's clearly ignorant, uneducated, and insecure.

    btw, you do clearly have asian mixture. very obvious. you DO NOT look anything like him.

  • That's your choice I wish you all the best in it. Seriously what do I know? I have no idea the issues you face so choose away. Not being mixed in that regard it seems so black and white but issues with regard to identity never are. I concede .

  • @mrsmojet1 thats to middy. i posted some stuff on your Pro blacks vid hope you get a chance to read it. I notice you were trying to find out about black history, sometimes it helps to take a college course on it if you can, there are so many dissenters and misinformers out there, it helps to have an arsenal of information.

  • I fucking LOVE you for this video. You ripped this stupid fuckwit. I'm mixed, but a different mix, but I can identify with this problems you've faced. I subbed you because of this vid.

  • wait a minute...PAUSE!!! did i just see your bare behind popping a squat at the end!!!!!! didnt need to see that lol!

  • i have high cheekbones. dang i need to know b/c i might be asian somewhere down the lines. was your dad in the military? or did you live in the phillipines?

  • Jaylove is a retard an is probably just jealous as he is ugly a sin! Like your vid. You are cute :D

  • o i watched your vid because i was watching his and he is really wrong you really do look Asian i did not understand why he said you just look straight up black i know Indians that are darker then him i wonder if he will say there black to :S

  • @lenny55100

    he looks asian...??????? are you foreal. thats gotta be the dumbest comment.

  • @watchMEshyne well that is my opinion and there some pinoys where I am from close to his color so that is why i say that

  • You undoubtedly mixed to me! Now I think Jaylove is a brilliant guy overall, but I have stumbled upon a number of contradictions and ambivalence he has towards things. He said in one of his videos that he's indifferent to interraciality as long as people (especially afroamericans) don't have a zany reason for dating interracially, but then in one of his videos thinks that god denounces it because it does nothing but dilutes the black race. Jay, be smarter and stop contradicting yourself! bye! =)

  • i don't think he wants anything to do with his blk side.he chose filipino and pacific islander on the sheet,he represented his mothers side but totaly denied his fathers side.no matter if he identifys with the blk side or not his father is still blk and should have checked that b4 he checked pacific islander.

  • @eastcoastbrotha WORD. I also believe if you go back to the origins of the Philipines I am pretty sure blacks were the first settlers on that land then the asians then the spanish... making him more black anyways...

  • @Loadfaster By Blacks, do you mean the aetas? They're actually not Black, they're proto-Asians. Europeans thought they were Black though & called them negritos. But they're the aetas or itas.

  • @nenabunena from my research protoasians are from the black family...

    Im pretty sure about that but willing to listen to what you know....

  • @Loadfaster If you mean that we all descend from Africa & hence Black people, then yes. Europeans when they 1st saw the dark aetas thought them Black & therefore labeled them as such BUT DNA EVIDENCE contradicts all that. Just because White people say so in the distant past, it doesn't make it true today. They were called negritoes because of it. I'm a Filipina & I studied Philippine anthropology, check your research & check your sources because a lot on the internet is hogwash.

  • @nenabunena yeah the features they had were black skinned, kinky haired, flat noses.... im not saying they were from the nubian tribe, but they were black.....

    I think the majority of the world have difficultyh with the fact that blacks were building civilizations long before whites even got going.... again Im not here to put any race down... just speaking on what I know...

  • @Loadfaster They were dark skinned, but not Black actually. The Spaniards colonized the Philippines & in Spanish Black & dark is the same word sometimes. For example, Ralph Maccio would be considered moreno, meaning dark or literally black. But he isn't is he? They have a type of hair that's not exactly kinky, it looks between kinky & curly but when the studied the hair follicles, the follicles wasn't similar to Black hair, the opposite I think.

  • @Loadfaster Also flat noses isn't a characteristic of all Blacks, it's a characteristic of certain Black people, just like not all Black people have thick lips. You have to remember that Africa has the largest genepool in the world, it's the most vital place on earth when it comes to genes. Good genes thrive on differentiation & Africa has it. The whole world population would only make up 2% of the genes in Africa. There are Africans with caucasian features. I agree with your last paragraph btw.

  • @nenabunena well it wasnt just one characteristic I was going by it was four... again like I said I did a little research on the origin of the filipino, but obviously not nearly as much as you.

    and rest assured my conclusion of the filipino origin wasnt based on the white mans assumptions.

  • @Loadfaster By 4 you meant hair, skin & flat noses? That's 3 so far. & 2 of those are not strict characteristics of Blacks. Like I said only a small amount of Black people have flat noses & they're from S. Africa. Many people who don't hail from Black descent have flat/pug noses or dark skin, ie. South Indians/Asians. But even then their darkness is still lighter than Blacks from Africa, Blacks from the US are mixed.

  • @nenabunena 4 characteristics. Lips, skin, hair, nose...

    Yes I know that american blacks many of them, including me are technically mixed.... I even went out of my way to say I am technically mixed as was Malcolm X....

  • @Loadfaster Itas have thin lips actually. & you are basing this on the SubSaharan phenotype right? Which is my point, you are basing it on what has been told to you to base it on.

  • @nenabunena no Ive seen pictures...

  • @Loadfaster Pictures sure beat the real thing.:/

  • @nenabunena lol.. pictures beat the real thing? I definatly dont agree to that at all... thats crazyness....

    i never said I was right...... it SEEMS, youve made that assumtpiuon because you assumed I considered myself an expert....

    I openly admit I was wrong! im not disputing that there not black... Im only saying they look similar to black people and I didnt need a white man to tell me what I can see for myself...

  • @Loadfaster Ok. I'm sorry for coming hard on you. I have to admit I have certain assumptions about Americans & Westerners. You certainly put me in my place. :) We cool now? Because I'd rather not continue the discussion anymore, exhausting right now for me.

  • @nenabunena hey did you ever check out my page? I put up an autorun video for people to see where I stand when it comes to the western world powerstructure.....

    Please check it out.... Im not as blind as you may have thought...

  • @Loadfaster I did. I agree with the guy on the vid, I watched a vid before on an elderly Black man saying that hiphop/rap was being bastardized by the industry. That it's actually an expression of art & political views which has been dumbed down into hoes, drugs, b!tches, &raping, etc. That vid left a profound impression on me that lead to my belief system today. that vid you put up was very good btw.

  • @nenabunena Before I saw that vid, I thought very little of hiphop since I prefer rock popular music & MJ of course. MJ actually made me reconsider my views on afrocentrism.

  • @nenabunena I listen to Hiphop (real Hiphop not the media POPRAP stuff like eminem or Jay Z) specifically because I dont think theres a type of music that deals with the issues of Race religion, politics, law vs Justice or many other socially counsious ideas and thoughts better than Hiphop....

    I am certian most people hate the music based on what "whitey" told them Hiphop is. AS Im sure you know already. It was planned to make sure the next generation does not get the same type of rap WE got..

  • @nenabunena: The only 2 things Im debating is

    1: that my assumptions were based on what a whiteman told me

    2: that full lips, nappy hair, flat nose, dark skin are traits of black people. There is nothing else I am debating..

    I saw a picture of the Aetas from what seems to be an online Philipino Paper called "veiws from the Pampang" the picture was titled "OUR BLACK HERITAGE"

    So maybe they got there information from a whiteman. But I got the info from a seemingly reputable filipina paper.

  • @Loadfaster 1. you may have gotten them from FILIPINOS (not Phiipinos) or other Black people, the original source is still from Europe by a single white man.

    2. Many Asians have full lips, but not a full FULL as SubSaharans specifically. & Itas don't have nappy hair or full lips.

    Do you know how education in the Philippines goes? The history books, as well as the aetas ancestry is based on Professor H. Otley Beyer & Spaniards assumptionas that Aetas are Balck.

  • @Loadfaster No conspiracy, it simply takes money the Philippines does not have to reprint & redo the entire Phil. history. Why not try this instead, why not talk to a real anthropologist, an anthropologist specializing in the Philippines, & see what they think about the matter. Not some paper that has no scientific background, or some uneducated/misinformed Filipinos. & while you're at it, go too google images & aetas, their lips sure don't look that thick to me.

  • @nenabunena CONSPIRACY? What are you talking about? PLEASE POINT OUT WHERE I MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT A CONSPIRACY? You love putting words in peoples mouths...

    ok the aetas have thin lips... similar to black people... dark skin similar to black people... kinky hair similar to black people, flat nose similar to black people....

  • @Loadfaster I'm not putting anything in your mouth. I didn't accuse you of any conspiracy theories. I'm simply explaining the miseducation of the Filipino. That it is based on the culture's ideology & lack of educational funding, not conspiracy as some may assume. Don't get defensive, I'm not accusing you of anything concerning conspiracy. Again, they don't have kiny hair similar to Black people. I've said it in 10 diff way but you keep reiterating it.

  • @nenabunena yes you keepe keep explaining things I know already... They were miseducated... I AGREE! But that still doesnt change the fact that it wasnt a whiteman that told me anything... It was a filipina... thats what Im debating.. nothing else... 

  • I also got my information from my Filipino friends that told me the original Philipinos were black people.. At one point in my life the majority of my friends were Filipino... Born and Rasied Filipinos told me that the original people were black... Then I did a little bit of research to verify it... My research was apparently wrong, but its only beccause I trusted my filipino friends knew the history of there own country.... No white man told me anything....

  • @Loadfaster Yes, every foreigners defense of their assumptions of what a Filipino is, based on some other ignorant miseducated/uneducated Filipino. Before I became more active on the net, I didn't even know that these FILAMS were spreading around that we were Polynesians based on false logic, unrelated facts, & a complete revisionism of data. Again, you don't even know how to spell our names - FILIPINOS - how much of an expert can you be? You don't even know what the aetas/itas are called

  • @nenabunena I never once called my self an expert.. You ASSUMED that.. I said MULTIPLE TIMES you OBVIOUSLY done ALOT MORE Reaserch on this than I have... You WANT me to have said I am an expert so you can argue with me...

    I MADE A POINT TO SAY IVE DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH and for that reason I said specifically I am willing to listen to whatever you say... Thats because you said you were filipina and an thropologist...

  • @Loadfaster I'm not an anthropologist, I took my masteral/graduate studies in anthropology. But I am a Filipina with a background in anthropology.

  • @nenabunena ok cool, regardless you definatly know more than I do.. I admit it now as I did many times before.

    Im not saying my eyes were right when I saw the picture and concluded they were from the black race... But when I looked at them they looked like part of the family...

  • @Loadfaster Also, just to let you in on something, most of the Filipinos who go abroad come from the lower brackets of society. Many are uneducated or had a bad education to begin with. These are the same people who know little of their history, the same people who don't teach pride in their children for being Filipino, the same people who once they get to the U.S. are convinced & confused if they are Pacific Islanders or Asians.

  • @nenabunena YES... I agree... My Filipino friends didnt do there homework.... None the less I didnt get my interpretation from the whiteman... It was filipinos... I had faith my friends knew there history...

    that doesnt change the3 fact that a filipino told me the "FACTS" not a whiteman

  • @Loadfaster My point is, those Filipinos got it from a white man's theory. You have to realize that many information or belief system that comes to you is INDIRECTLY INFLUENCED. A white man doesn't have to approach you to tell you this. He can create a system that tells you this. in the end, he is the one saying these things to us. You just have to sift through every data with a BS lens that's all.

  • @Loadfaster & even then, many Filipinos, whether they're rich/poor, are simply ignorant of their history bec Filipinos don't believe in living in the past, they live in the present. It's sounds like a good concept but taken to the extremes Filipino society takes it, it destroys the entire nation & culture. I recommend you look into anthropology books by recent anthropologists instead, especially those specializing in Philippine anthropology.

  • @Loadfaster The 1 characteristic that determines Blackness is hair follicles, & like I said, the study of aeta hair follicle shows it isn't Black. I'm sorry but those sources that you researched are all based on archaic archaeology that was instigated by 1 white man. I am a Filipina with a background in filipino archaeology & anthropology, & your assumptions simply is based on wrong data. These are old concepts from 100 years ago, DNA has shown otherwise.

  • @nenabunena wow... didnt we already discuss that? Didnt I already admit that you obviously did much more reasearch on it than I did? I swore you told me already that you were filipina and had a background in anthropology already.

  • @Loadfaster You did but I assume that you were reiterating your past points so I reiterated mine in return.

  • @nenabunena well its a waste of time to make assumtions like that...

    I said openly that I am definatly willing to listen to your side cause youve done a lot more research than I did. I havent denied one point youve made... other than I needed a whiteman to tell me what the original people from the filipiines were.. but I havent denied your points... So why we are arguing this is crazy to me..

  • @Loadfaster Assumptions based all on your reiterations. So why is there a bias here? It's ok for you to keep reiterating the same points & if I keep countering them with my repeated points, I am mistaken. Perhaps you shouldn't have reiterated them in the 1st place if you acquiescenced to those points I reiterated. This is also crazy for me. You keep saying that these aetas have Black characteristics, I'm arguing otherwise. Crazy no?

  • @nenabunena yes I do think its crazy yes...

  • @nenabunena my past points were to listen to you cause you did more reasearch than me... Ive seen pictures of these first filipinas and they look related to black people.... I iddnt need a whiteman to tell me what my eyes saw... Im not denying anything you said... other than I need a whiteman to tell me something that I assumed when I saw some pictures....

  • @Loadfaster Ok. Based on what YOU saw right? & for many people all Asians look alike in their eyes, all Black people look the same (Ethiopians or SubSaharan), & all Europeans look the same too. Do you know what this sounds? Racist? Wrong? Right? To you or people they look black based on this INGRAINED idea told to you in the 1st place by the MEDIA since birth what they look like. This is what's called brainwashing, you are told 1 thing everyday of your life & you believe it in the end.

  • @nenabunena all asians look alike? to you maybe, all black people look the same? yea this sounds racist... whos denying that?

  • @Loadfaster It's an analaogy that points that it is similar to people who are UNFAMILIAR with AETAS to say they look Black. yes it sounds very very very RACIST.

  • @nenabunena doesnt sound racist to me... It sounds like an honest mistake....

  • sorry but the thick lips, dark skin, flatter nose, nappy hair are traits of black people... ALL BLACK PEOPLE? NO!! I didnt say ALL black people.. You made that assumption... But they defintaly are traits of black people... Again ALL black people? no but they are traits of black people... Not All but definatly traits but not all....

    I never claimed all blacks must look like a shaka zulu type or somthing like that.

  • @Loadfaster So would you say that thin lips & high bridge noses are characteristics of Black people? Why not? since many Eastern Africans & those north of the Sahara have such features? Dark skin is also a characteristic of South Asians, does that make them Black? Why are they considered Caucasian then? Again, the Itas don't have nappy hair actually & their lips are thin. They are dark but only darker than mulattos, not unmixed Blacks from Africa.

  • @nenabunena yes I would say those characteristics are also of black people, cause I actually have video footage of one.... Would you like me to show you? again YOU are making these assumptions...

    Please Id be very happy to show you...

    but that doesnt change the fact that thick lips, nappy hair, dark skin, and flat noses are traits of black people..

    You asked me a question then answered what you thought Id say....

  • @Loadfaster Ok. You want to show me vids of Black people that I TOLD YOU ABOUT who have Caucasian features in Africa? Alright, what's the point? I was the 1 who mentioned them to you in the 1st place. So you would say then that high bridge noses, flat noses, thick & thin lips are all characteristics of Black people right? So are South Indians Black then? Flat noses are also characteristic of many Asian people, FYI. Dark skin is also characteristic of the Caucasian S. Asians FYI. See the point?

  • @nenabunena you mentioned them to me? sure.. was this the first time Ive ever herd about this? NOPE... This is nothing I didnt know earlier.. It seems to me you think your teaching me all this stuff I didnt know...

  • @Loadfaster LOL! I responded to the very statement you responded to mine! Am I in the Twilight Zone or what? Look at the conversation we had!

  • @nenabunena There are no unmixed blacks from Africa that can actually be lighter than the Itas?

  • @Loadfaster Ex. many Egyptians were Black but people always countered well they had aquiline noses w/ light straight hair, etc. But the aquiline noses are also char'c of many Blacks, people assume that all Blacks should look SubSaharan when they don't have 2 b. The hair color & straightness was due 2 loss of O2 in the sarcophagus making it lighter & straighter. But the study of the hair follicle shows his Blackness.

  • @nenabunena ... Please understand/overstand I knew some of this.. Trust me I knew much of this already

  • @Loadfaster U R judging what Black is based on an assumption told to U by the media that Blacks should look a certain way.

  • @nenabunena no I am not cause I do not look like the average American black.... You have assumed that....

  • @Loadfaster I'm sorry but I think you are. You just said that those particular features are known to be a part of black people. Well, they are also a part of other non-Black people. The KEY WORD here is KNOWN. Just because it is 'KNOWN' doesn't make it so. There have been many of these types of KNOWN (s) in the past that were wrong & misconstrued. You may be light skin but it doesn't immune you from expecting the KNOWN right? I'm a Filipina but I look Caucasian, so what? We are talking logic

  • @nenabunena you think I am but youd be wrong... I just said they are features of black people. I didnt say known... You said known. You look caucasian? What does a caucasian look like? what are the KNOWN traits of a caucasian? How can you make such an assumption?

  • @Loadfaster "Trust me I do not think you must have those 4 features in order to be black..... At the same time those features are also KNOWN to be part of the black people." Caucasians have certain features in anthropological terms, which is why S. Asians are considered Caucasian. & which is why many Blacks who should be categorized/recognized as Caucasians aren't bec it shows a gradient in humanity that racism does not allow. I'm not assuming I amstating things from an anthroplogical measure.

  • @Loadfaster I'll use a word that you might find offensive, Black is in the same category as Caucasian, it is simply a social term used by the West perpetuated internationally. The term that is along side Caucasian is Negroid actually. & based on the anthropologial measurement, many BLACKS as you say, north of the SubSahara border both Negroid & Caucasoid features. Yet someone has told you or you are under the assumptions that they only have Negroid characteristics. We call that a GRADIENT

  • @nenabunena CORRECTION: I meant "Black is NOT (isn't) in the same category as Caucasian"

  • Despite having 2 parents that most people in the western world would see as light black, I came out very fair, in skin tone and my nose isnt flat... Most people think I have at least one white parent, other think Im hispanic or somthing...

    Trust me I do not think you must have those 4 features in order to be black..... At the same time those features are also known to be part of the black people.

  • @Loadfaster Well, ok. 1st, many Blacks in the West is mixed. By father came from 2 very light skinned parents, yet he came out with Ralph Macchio's skin, dark. it's common for many Filipinos to have this type of outcome in their children, it's not surprising that it happens to others. 2nd, like I said, Africa has the biggest genepool & therefore the biggest genepool for a variety of Mutations. Kinky hair, black skin, white skin, blue/green/gray eyes, blond/red hair are all mutations.

  • @nenabunena ok good these are mutations and Africa has the biggest gene pool. Good! I knew this as well! SO WHAT? I AGREE! Im not even debating or agruing that.....

  • @Loadfaster The point being that it isn't surprising why Blacks would have white children or light skinned children. It also isn't surprising if you are mulatto to begin with. Yet you seem to think it is worth mentioning.

  • @Loadfaster Mutations that all came from Africa. The type of mutations that is vital to adaptation. There have been accounts of 2 Black parents with children with white skin, blond hair & blue eyes. There was also an account of 2 white parents with 2 Black biological children. These types of mutations would be more common in Africa/Blacks since these genes originated from them anyways. Ur understanding is based on mixed Blacks not on an understanding of people of the world like the Itas.

  • @nenabunena holy crap I know about the 2 black parents with a white child... I have favorited 2 examples from youtube... Check my channel I know about this.... My understanding is not based on mixed blacks... that is an assumption youve made of me...