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  • But consider that cop are still hunting for pedophiles, with a very little luck, and if they caught one, other pedophiles will born, like it was in history. For eg. I have read through the internet, but I did not find anything about what bad effects normal sex has on children, I only found it here, told by someone who knows a victim. So if that hating and hunting goes on, pedophilia will never stop.

  • OK, where does this fucking sick fucking pig fucking poor excuse of a human live? Because i'm going to kill the piece of shit!!!!!

  • ughhhhh....those pic clips literally made my skin crawl. This is why I have little faith in the human race. What the fuck is wrong with people?

  • I can't stop crying! I hate this man so much...glad hes dead, he can burn in hell.

  • @milkbone11111 I don't see the point in killing them. Hate doesn't help hate! I thanked him because at least he can change from my experience and not hurt some one else. If it works then I'm glad. Smashing his skull doesn't stop paedophilia I'm afraid. It just drives them more down under in keeping it a "secret".

  • @jennymar Pedophiles do not change. once they are released they most likely go and ruin another innocent childs life

  • @MizuWolf003 Looks like you don't know anything about pedophiles... pedophiles are not psychopaths, nor am I, no pedophile wants to ruin a kid's life. You probably want to believe otherwise, because hating is enjoyable but with this, you just punishing the kids, cuz pedophiles will only changed if they know the truth about this thing (persuaded). With these much hating, people will only endanger kids, and I don't think you want that.

  • Can't believe some comments below thanking a pedophile. Its not an inner sickness, its a choice to be evil or good. As a male you see a younger person dressed inappropriately its your choice to look or look away. Your all sick on the head. If anyone touched a child in front of me they would get a concussion.

  • @milkbone11111 Only a concussion? You're way too merciful... If I ever saw some freak molesting a child in front of me, they'd be LUCKY if the beatdown that ensued killed them. If the child molester in question survived, they would be a quadriplegic for the rest of their meaningless lives. They would eat and breathe through tubes for as long as they lived. And on top of that, they would spend a long-ass time in prison, where they would be at the mercy of inmate and guard alike.

  • @PsychoBurgundy6 And I won't let you go near any kid, you psychopath... about what I read from you, I couldn't imagine how much would you abuse a kid, even if you're not a pedophile... I don't think you want to protect kids with that, you only want to enjoy yourself with hating on others (what you would probably do against kids) and maybe showing off nothing else.

  • @PsychoBurgundy6 I am protecting the kids, I just didn't know what pedophilia could cause to them, so I quitted on supporting it, when I knew it. But you still go on hating on pedophiles, even if you know that this can endanger kids... may you burn in hell..

  • @milkbone11111 Don't talk bullshit, if you don't know anything about that. Sexuality is never chosen by a person, like homosexuality, it is inborn, or developed by way bad parenting. It is another thing to actually do that with a kid, but pedophiles do that, because they think they won't harm the kids, so if you want to stop pedophilia, you should look after it, and tell it to pedos, that how this harms the kid, for eg. you can read back jennymar's comments.

  • I hope you burn in HELL you BASTARD

  • UR A SICK BASTARD MAN I WAS CRYING WHEN I SAW THOSE BOYS

  • i think anyone who does this shit to children should be strung up in the highest tree, these sickoes need to be put down like a rabid animals.!! if i ever witnessed anyone molesting a child, id kill the bastard myself, only thing the police would be doing is cleaning up the bloody leftovers!!

  • I believe that if you rape a child the parents will get to do what they want with you ... i see something like hostel or saw ... i personally would take my time and extend it as long as possible i would even hire a doc to keep him alive as i did my job ... and i would enjoy it verrrry much ..

  • @sonicdrive You're sick and sadist, man! protecting kids is alright, but what you have posted has nothing to do with that. You're just as sick as the pedophiles...

  • And my boyfriend is glad too that I least helped someone. Thank you gwenvar.

  • @jennymar You're welcome! :)

  • @jennymar I sent you a private message, please read if if you didn't, It is important for me!

  • @gwenvar I'm glad my comment can at least change your mind. Me and my boyfriend do not have hate for the people who hurt us, I'd rather help them so they understand that what they did was wrong. If I can change one mind, then I know my experience is working to better people. :-)

  • @BlackOpsQueen21 May I just add, most children "enjoy" it to get through it. I never did, but my boyfriend did so he didn't have to think about it. To him, if he just "enjoyed" it, it would t be so bad. At such a young age you really have no idea what is going on. I'm positive (as I've spoken to him) this person regrets it 100% now. He was 6 and trusted Mark as he was a close family friend.

  • @BlackOpsQueen21 I have spoken to this child and can I tell you he was manipulated into having sex. In his mind, he thought it was normal. It was okay. The fact that they hide his face means you cannot see any reaction. He told me he was scared every time Mark would molest him. He just went with it because he thought it was "normal". I have his email address and you can communicate with him directly if you want. And say what you did here.

  • Usually I would feel bad for kids tht get molested. But I don't feel bad for that kid. He seemed to be enjoying tht shit.

  • Some people don't deserve to live.

  • 90% of pedophiles won't continue having sex with kids, if they would know what effect it really has. But if you just hate, hunt and discriminate pedophiles, the problem will get worse every year. Everyone can tame their soul if they want to, meaning they won't have to have sex with kids because they have an attraction. But it looks like You don't want to, it just really fun for you to label and hate people...

  • So as I said earlier, tell this, and not post things like: "Imma cut your frickin' balls off"... very clever, really... you just want to express your hate and not protecting the kids...

  • I know that it is easier to hate and hunt, rather than convince, but you will solve nothing with it. I solved it for myself, thanks to a sincere comment, so I do not support child sexuality anymore, because I know it much better now. And don't call pedophiles sick, or perverted, it is an inborn thing, they can't do anything about it. The real matter is that they damage the kid's body with that.

  • He needs to eat his beans...

  • i would cut ur dick off cook it and make u swallow it with out chewing fucking nasty piece of shit pervert

  • And these comments like: "too bad the kids can't turn around and poison their attackers"... I agree if it is a real abuse, but the other way, you should consider that kids usually love the pedophile.

  • To make some things clear: I do not support child abuse (torturing kids), or anything that has a permanent bad effect on them. I came here to figure out that how this really works, and how it affects the kid. So you should stop posting these hate comments, cuz these make the pedophiles resist more, so you should explain what you know about that, like jennymar did cleverly. Most of the pedophiles think that if they do not cause pain, they do not cause damage.

  • love to smack that smile off his face

  • What a curse to like children but he should kill him to show how sorry he is

  • Why did we ever get rid of public hangings?

  • Absolutely disgusting. Words can not accurately describe how irate this make me.

  • Poor kids, If only I had killed him myself, then it would be payback for the young boys that he used for sexual acts.

  • oh god im on the weird side of youtube again...

  • I HAPPILY REPORT I TESTIFY AGAINST PEDO's!

  • IN the usa we say PEDOHFILE Not PEEDOHFILE...this is pronunciation not spelling.

    Next, I hope all pedos commit suicide the quicker the better...too bad the little children can't turn around and poison their abusers! I had phone sex once with someone who wanted to pretend I was six when I am over 18. Men are driven by their penises UNREAL...if it was your sister, niece, cousin, mother, aunt who was raped ( a form of violence using sex as the weapon) how would u feel u damn sickos! KARMA!

  • glad he killed himself all pedos should kill themselves ....disgusting monsters to touch a child!!!

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  • @gwenvar I think it's sad that you think taking the virginity of a child is a game! Manipulating a child into sex is a game! Using your authority as a means to get what you want is a game! It is illegal for a reason! Look it up!

  • I got to sleep talk with you next day

  • My boyfriend was hugely manipulated into it. He never understood why he was doing it, or how "bad" it was. He did it because, he was told to. He was never forced, they had sex with him for years, yet it is still rape because he doesn't have the mental capacity to fully grasp what was happening. They still messed up his body cos it wasn't ready for sex. He wasn't mature enough. I also wasn't mature enough. And no, I was never raped up my arse whoever asked that foul question.

  • @jennymar His body messed up? how?

  • @gwenvar How? Well, let me tell you. He was raped from 9 till his teen years. His body never magically learned to cope with it. It wasn't mature enough for it. It wasn't ready! Simple. I won't go into detail but he's needed a lot of treatment through the years after the abuse. Not just psychologically. It really isn't a joke and I don't know why someone like you would come on here and justify this with so much bull shit! I have been a victim and being in love with a victim...

  • @jennymar I mean with adults who started sex as a kid

  • @gwenvar I can tell you, if you think abuse doesn't effect a child growing up, you are sadly mistaken! Of course children who are abused can grow up well balanced! I did! My boyfriend did! I'll even go as far as writing that Oprah did! However the scars remain. You never have trust again for people! I think you're young (and if you're not then I do feel sorry for you). Reason, I think that, most paedophiles don't brag or talk about it so openly, they try everything to divert it.

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  • @jennymar And thanks for your comment, I will look into it further, and may speak with kids, who started sex as adults. I glad to see, that you are more clever than the other ones, I think you made me change my mind.

  • Anyone that thinks is funny is just fucking with you. No real pervert would ever draw attention to themselves. They work hard to divert it. Also, may I add that children haven't got the mental capacity to understand something as huge as sex and how much of a life changing experience it is. Neither are their bodies ready for it.

  • @jennymar Sex is not huge, it is simple, and their bodies are not read for it, but it acts to cope with that. And I researched it, and young age sex can improve the kid's later sexual life, just like masturbation. When a parent find out that the kid is doing that, doctors usually suggest that it doesn't matter, cuz it its healthy. And one more thing about sex, if you're a mature, sex is huge for you, but if you are a kid, that's just a play game, and it can change anytime.

  • @jennymar Kids raised by pedophiles grow up balanced and well, believe me!

  • ewwwwwwwww dis sick

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  • @warriorcat3679 But what do you mean go through "this" he talked about painless act clearly, what other bad thing are in it, that could be a trauma for the kid? please explain that!

  • @gwenvar kids that are raped get depresed and use drugs and drink. it chaould not hurt at all idc. I dont mean to start a fight ok that is what i know. im sorry i made u mad.

  • @warriorcat3679 You did not made me mad, I just want to protect those who are not protected. And those kids who likely to use drugs, and get depressed, are really raped, painfully, unwillingly, and they use drugs, and get depressed, cuz that acts like any other trauma, like beating up (do you know how much it happens in non-pedo families?). But I do not talk about rape, I am talking about sex. If the pedophile is gentle, and a real kid-lover, the kid will surely want it.

  • @gwenvar you dont know that about all kids but i will take what u say and belive you. Im sorry i wasted your time do u have kids???

  • @warriorcat3679 No, but my relatives have, and I had a first-grade friend in primary school, when I was in 8th grade. I got so depressed when I had to go to sec. school.

    And you did not waste my time, I am happy that you are not so offensive like the others, you are a really nice person!

  • @gwenvar are u ok with what HigherThatEarth said but no i wasted your time im really sorry i just dont like rape im ok if the kid wants to have sex with there dad or a friend but if someone kidnapps ( sorry with my spelling) the kaid and rape them till they like it im not ok with that.

  • @warriorcat3679 Now it is clear, same here, but no no no, you did not waste my time :), cuz my comment is not just for you but I wanted to make it clear for everyone, at least everyone who watch this site. And it is never a waste of time to talk about things it is always helpful, especially this time.

  • @gwenvar thx :) are u ok with what HigherThanEarth says he dose or what he Said.

  • @warriorcat3679 Umm I think he said the same as me. He said that if two people are in love with each other, than the age does not matter. I aggree!

  • @warriorcat3679

    And rape them till they likfe it? I'm absolutely against that. that is not what either of us said here.

  • @HigherThanEarth It was just an opposition, she said, she agrees with sex but not with rape, didn't said that you told that.

  • @gwenvar

    Bless you for telling the truth no one else dares. I hope a kid goes on this page and tells that to moron burgundy.

  • @HigherThanEarth That's right. Well, kids usually protect pedophiles, but sadly no one cares about the kids. So sad, they only care about projecting their hate, but maybe we could find a way to protect kids and pedophiles (the good ones).

  • @gwenvar

    I don't think there IS a way. It's just something that has to be kept secret. The reason being, is that the law recognizes it as ilegal {meaning wrong} and the sentence is too severe. It's just something that can exist but both Love and Trust has to exist between the two people. The best thing to do is adopt the kid and make sure you BOTH keep it secret. I suppose you COULD move to a place where it IS legal. If I was in Love I would never be Idle. But Love ISN'T Blind.

  • @HigherThanEarth sicko

  • @warriorcat3679 He won't use drugs, or get depressed, he will be more happy, believe me!

  • @gwenvar Congratulations... By trying to justify grown men having their way with little kids, you've just exposed yourself as being just as evil as that other pedophile fuck, HigherThanEarth. You'd better stay as far away from children as humanly possible.

  • @PsychoBurgundy6 Evil? and what do you mean by that? please explain! I explained myself, that pedophilia is not, evil, just you think that is. And do you actually love kids? If not, please don't post comments like this. I am not evil, nor sick, I love kids, and I never would hurt them, or tolerate everyone hurt them. So please be aware what you say, and read what I said first, carefully!

  • @PsychoBurgundy6 I think you just have that stereotype in your mind carved by society, but I guess that has absolutely no basis. If you can prove why is it bad for kids to have sex, I will hate pedophiles too, but if not, I will hate those who hate pedophiles!

  • @PsychoBurgundy6 And there is some other thing: If people hate the kid-lover pedophiles, than the kids will suffer the hate mostly, because these kids love the pedophile, no matter how you try to ignore this, so you will hurt them too. So please, everyone, who wants to hate pedos, consider that!

  • @PsychoBurgundy6

    Leave Gwenvar out of this. This is between you and your nightmares :) Lol

    Go to therapy and get off the page.

  • @HigherThanEarth If anybody ever finds out where you live and heads to your house, pedophile scum, just be grateful that it won't be me. Because whoever broke into your house and kicked the shit out of you, just know that the pain you would suffer from it wouldn't even be a ZILLIONTH as bad as the pain I would inflict upon you if I got my hands on you. But I WILL find out where you live, one way or another, and I will do everything I can to ensure your demise.

  • @PsychoBurgundy6 Shut up already, you are just using the label pedophile to let out our hate, get out of here! And don't think he will not get any help if you go visit him!

  • @PsychoBurgundy6 I don't think you even like kids so don't come with the pedophile speech, please...

  • @gwenvar You will watch your tone with me if you know what's good for you... ESPECIALLY with you being a pedophile, or at the very least, a pedophile-sympathizer. I will NOT allow somebody who supports allowing pedophiles to have their way with prepubescent children to act like they have any right to run around yelling at people or telling them what to do.

  • @PsychoBurgundy6 AGREED!

  • Someone please find out where HigherThanEarth lives and go to his house and kill him in some horrific fashion, please. He's not a troll... He actually IS a pedophile POS. You can tell by his comments that he's dangerously close to raping little kids, if he hasn't already. Someone dox him and remove him from my planet NOW.

  • @PsychoBurgundy6

    Are you serious about killing me? You don't know if I'm trolling. This could be a big joke? Are you seriously willing to commit murder without evidence? You're right burgundy "Psycho" is a good name for you speaking of which maybe YOU should go and get help because I know I do but it isn't for what you think AND murder is technically worse than rape so... You're a hippocrite too. You're a tool gooing around loosing weight in your fingers typing all your hate.

  • @HigherThanEarth whether u are trolling or not this is a serious situation. whether the pedo says he loves the kids or not or if the kid says its ok it is still officially and lawfully rape. by law anyone under the age of 18 or those mentally retarted are unable to give consent. so call it love all you want. it is still rape.

  • @PsychoBurgundy6

    That makes YOU... A Loser :) Why don't you go to sensitivity training and talk with a bunch of women about your problems. Maybe they'll teach you how to remove the huge Angry dildo in the dephs of your Ass and give you some comfort. I'm sorry that you were abused :) Guess what, So was I.

  • @PsychoBurgundy6

    And here's another thing. If you want to please me... Use more detail when you respond. make it sound sexy. And vent a little more. I'm sure you have other feelings besides hate. Reveal them to me. Type more to me. more than a couple sentences. Write me a paragraph :) Tell me how you feel about me. Would you kidnap me?

  • after watching this i feel sick at my stomach... literally I do....

  • kill all you mtfs you would be the first id kill if i knew i was gonna die stick my gun right in your faget asses and pull the trigger fuck that scumbags

  • sad

  • Could you imagine me babysitting someone's kids?

    I love the anatomy of children. Touching them... kissing them... smelling their hair... watching them sleep.

  • sick son of a bitch!! he'll pay his price in hell

  • In all this game, the devil is losing and at the end will be accused of everything because GOD don’t want any rivals. Conclusion: live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and limited power of devil because he is just a temporary puppet. Jesus Christ is the savior and hope.

  • was also sexually abused by 8 men. He was only 9 and they took turns to rape him. it lasted for so long (till he was 17) that eventually he ended up enjoying it to get through it. His insides was damaged so bad he needed a bag for 8 weeks to just do a no.2 in. He has nightmares of his rapes all time. He's 'tried' getting through it. The fact that it's happened annoys him.The fact that he enjoyed it (like the victim in the video) . It started at 7. And lasted till 10.

  • Can I explain why I'm livid, I was abused by a family member and passed through friends to make my uncle recieve more money. My boyfriend w

  • @jennymar

    I want to abuse you heh heh... Did they put it in your ass?

  • @HigherThanEarth I will fucking burn you if I ever meet you in person.

  • *excuse not *accuse

  • disgusting

  • PLS resond to this video and delete. I read a pedophile enjoyed the abuse:

  • Pls help me respond to the bbc cos this won't be taken off other wise. Please the victim is ashamed of this abuse. The fact that the uploader used the abused victim is accuse enough to remove it. Please, ple

  • HigherThanEarth.....Well said.Cheers.

  • glad he's dead one less that the taxpayer has to feed in the prison system. The only thing that would have made his death better was if he was handed to the parents of the kids he abused to be beaten to death.

  • @satanscat77

    I don't think he should have gone to prison because they probably raped him there for being a pedophile. It's wrong! Raping one kid and getting raped by a bunch of men are two different things. It angers me they would send pedophiles to prison. They should end them to hospitals instead because they're "Sick" and there's nothing wrong with having sex with someone younger.

  • @HigherThanEarth and do you mind telling me whats wrong with him getting rapped in prison im sure every man in that jail has a son they would want to protect?? an eye for an eye if you ask me! its not the same thing he went through the same thing he put those kids through! children are the last innocent thing we have left this hellish world AND NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE THAT AWAY! every pedophile like you deserve to get whats comming to you a giant unforgiving dick to the ass!

  • @HigherThanEarth I aggre, there's nothing wrong with it, but people like to make it up, so they can let their hate out on pedophiles, cuz I don't think they are protecting the kids, they are showing so much hate, I think they are bigger threat to kids, than any pedophile Most of the pedophiles are very gentle to kids and make them enjoy the act, and care about them much more than any parent. And it does not leave any bad effect on the kids, really, you should stop hating on pedophiles already!

  • @gwenvar If you are trying to protect the kids, you should bring up something to prove that it is unhealthy for the kids. and don't bring up the usual "abuse" theme, because sex is not abuse! Please, consider that, I talking about real sex with kids, without any forcing or pain.

  • @gwenvar your a sick fuck id personaly cut your welsh throat

  • Sick! 

  • Shouldnt film people while they are driving, it can cause accidents on the road.

  • some many bitches why looking fod kids . poor kids

  • Castrate with a rusty spoon. Tattoo pedophile on their foreheads, and send them to jail. Trust me, It doesn't matter if some hard core guy killed his grandma for drug money, The perv wouldnt walk straight ever. Or be able to walk at all.

  • Mother chod

  • Tatoo the letters PED on their foreheads and set them loose in a Supermax, problem solved.

  • Of course, Western civilisation is esentially built upon paedophilia, the dear old Greeks and all that. But these days we have a strange notion that sex with children is tantamount to some kind of spiritual murder... an odd claim.

    Though most of the posts here seem less morally outraged than merely disgusted - much as people used to be disgusted by homosexuality. Distaste is not a compelling moral argument, and the mob-mentality is seldom rational.

  • @demonliberal No, we're both genuinely disgusted AND morally outraged by pedophiles. Pedophiles have no business trying to justify their disease and shoving it down everyone's throats. You may NOT have your way with our children. If ever you, or any other pedophile, tries to fight to legalize CP, child prostitution, and child molestation, or try to lessen the punishment that comes with such sex crimes against children, you will fail in a most spectacular fashion.

  • @PsychoBurgundy6

    I completely disagree. I pray that it becomes legal for adults and young children to have sex with eachother. All the kids needs is to wants to and say yes. That's why they made Lube so it doesn't hurt too much in the butt.

  • @HigherThanEarth Thank you so much for the comment!

  • @PsychoBurgundy6 Cant rape the willing

  • they should make it that when you are clearly identified as a pedophile who has comitted crimes that these people use all of their human rights and they can be punished however way possible

  • @Chickenedful

    Well I'm not. He could have made love to all sorts of children but now he can't because you sick bastards have a problem with it! Yes it might be viewd as wrong if he fucks the kids ass hard. but if he does it right ANd the kid wants it... That's nobody else's buisness.

  • @HigherThanEarth what your a dirty peado too

  • @Troglob1te

    Yes.

  • @HigherThanEarth you fuckin are and i hope you die slow mother fucker

  • @HigherThanEarth That's so right!

  • dog

  • this is something we cannot cure they are predators to ours kids.they need to be stop! ! why do they still have rights after doing such a crime???!!!! wont say the rest of my minds...

  • Well im glad hes dead.

  • Just saying I'm guessing higher than earth is trolling but if he's not I'm with everyone else he must be mentally disturbed or something

  • kill all pedophiles!!!

  • Well god has the last laugh now, he is watching satan rape him non stop !!

  • Kill all of these bastards.Tear the fuckers apart.Paedophile scum.

  • he's SICK and need to die!

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  • @linaheartful hes already dead :D

  • @adrianao69o THANK god!

  • he's SICK and need to die!

  • kill the fucker

  • @HigherThanEarth where do you live ?

  • if you really want to sort this out you will have to get rid of the sexual prohibition model. If the gonads are kept empty this kind of stuff would not occur. I blame religion as the main antagonist against organised sex. We are baboons from one extreme to the other and criminals prey in every manner and form for our money. As soon as you organise sex some dark man comes gunning for you. because his boss misses out on his holiday in the Mediterranean. World ends soon hooray..

  • @rodrickau First we have to get rid of all the pedophiles in this world, and THEN we'll talk.

  • @1860george

    LOL!! Fuck Burgindy... Right in the Ass.

  • @PsychoBurgundy6

    I'm glad they haven't taken it off yet. I've been jerking off to this video for like 2 weeks now. It's so sexy.

  • @HigherThanEarth .......im gonna enjoy watching you die....>:)

  • castration is the solution!!!!!

  • i think they should all die!!!

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  • He killed him self good saves the tax payers a lot of money.

  • Can't even watch one flew over the cookoos nest and I end up here btw that earth kid talking about raping little children you might want to check into the nearest mental hospital

  • horrifying.

  • Lolz first bring peace in your own country and then claim for bringing peace in Afghanistan

  • How did I get here? I was watching Mad TV about three minutes ago. The internet is a weird place indeed. 0_0

  • You guys are getting owned by a troll here...dont you know when you are getting trolled? WTF

  • Skurwiel "zwiał" bo wiedział co go w pudle czeka.

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  • Cut his cock off, cook it and make him eat it.

  • Instead of a camera crew, they should be bringing in a firing squad....

  • OH MY GOD................

  • FUCKIN DISGUSTING!

  • Fucking disgusting 

  • cut of the penis and balls.. he only needs a hole to pee anyways... they show they cant handle a penis... i would love to be the one cutting the thing of their body..

  • FUCKING DIRTY , STINKING ROTTEN BASTURD THATS ALL I CAN SAY CHOP HIS BALLS OFF IN STRING THE PEDDO UP MAKES ME SO MAD !!!

  • bitch

  • this shit is f ing sick they are a race of people who are born with a sickness that is uncurable keep them lockep up for life at the first offense

  • they need to be buried alive

  • are we at penn state im jw

  • Honestly there are actually some twisted up kids that would like and older man no joke

  • @MIKEDIAZ18

    I know. I used to l.ike older women when I was little.

  • boil all pedophiles publicly so the rest of them learn

  • sick bastards

  • @Psychoburgundy61 let me do u a favor, meet me and i'll take it all away for u

  • thats fucking disgusting, how anyone can be aroused by children I