Viennese Waltz Demo (Timing) by Mirko & Alessia

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[aradia1379]

@CDAFishboy Although I can't listen to the music (no soundcard on the computer I'm using), 8 bar phrases are common in many types of classical music. They're often composed of two 4 bar phrases (4 bar antecedent, 4 bar consequent). The simplest form of waltz music is in binary form: An 8 bar phrase, repeated, then a different 8 bar phrase, also repeated. Hooray for music theory. ;)

[CDAFishboy]

@Feinscmacher thanks for the tips. And in fact I noticed other dances that can be counted in 4 or 8 bars

[usfootman]

reverse turn is the hardest step for me. especialy when i have to cross my feet.

[CDAFishboy]

Why does he go 1 2 3 , 2 2 3, 3 2 3, and on up to 8 2 3?

I have been taught 1 2 3, 5 6 7 or just 1 2 3

Although if I use the 5 6 7 version I don't rush the 2nd half. I do not have musical

Training and I know it helps understanding dance timing . Is there typically 8 bars to a phrase in waltz music?

[Feinschmacker]

@CDAFishboy its because in viennese waltz you only have right turn, left turn and the fleckerl (dont know how it is called in english, that one from 0:29) and you wanna make it not simply the same all the time. so he counts up to 8 and at 8 he does a different turn or figure... in my oppinion almost every ballroom dance (except for paso doble) can be counted in 8 bars...

[ddr1011]

@Feinschmacker yup, it is indeed called a fleckerl in english also. CDAFishboy, if you need an idea for musical phrasing, try listening to the song "Favorite Things" from the musical "The Sound of Music". I guess I mention it only because it's stuck in my head, but it make the phrasing very clear and obvious. In this video by the way, he tends to end a phrase with a change step, changing from reverse to natural (left to right turn) or natural to reverse (right to left turn). enjoy!

[Feinschmacker]

@CDAFishboy in the last part he counts up to 4 2 3 only, because he counts that much bars he is dancing. do you understand what i mean? i know my english is not that good

[RenaSohma]

timing... I understand that problem very well

[cshorte]

sweet!