OFP2 vs. ARMA 2 Part 3 of 3

[xXxMartin96xXx]

so, we have to say that the only thing better on OFP2 are the graphics, destructivle enviroment physics, and AI

[MrSzczuras]

CODEMASTERS!!! WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU HAVE DONE TO OPERATION FLASHPOINT!!!

[GMODCREATOR]

At the end of the day there both good but I feel OFDR is too limited.

[Pvjinflight]

@GMODCREATOR Yeah OFDR is maybe more realistic than average war game, but still its not anything near Arma 2, I wouldnt call it milsim.

[Zaghwa94]

@Pvjinflight Iwouldn't call it "MILSIM" neither ;)

[FIN232]

god dammit what is wrong with you people i hate all of you that think another game is better if you think a game is better why the heck are you saying that the other game sucks ass and this game is so much better...... look people if you like a game and dont like another why are playing the other game then?? and i dont like god of war but im not becoming an asshole and whining about it goch....

[Pvjinflight]

@FIN232 Probably its partially because of bad relationship beetween Bohemia interactive which made original OFP1 and arma series, but codemasters stole Operation Flashpoint name from Bohemia after their work together stopped, so they had to change name to Arma. And operation flashpoint 2 really sucks when compared to Arma 2, thats just a fact.

[Botev1912Botev]

Is OFP2 free world like arma 2 ? I mean can i walk where i want ?

[0lionheart]

Honestly, there's so much hate between ArmA and Flashpoint fans. It's ridiculous, you both like realistic shooters - why not just agree they're both good games? One's better for the uber-realism enthusiast and one's better for the less hardcore. Something for everybody.

[PlaneAU]

right at the very beginning when he moves his head tot he right, the holographic sight is wrong, the sights are pointing elsewhere to where the gun is actually be pointing. The holographic sight is supposed to collimate.

[pausa831]

Obviously arma is alooot better then op flashpoint but for people who dont own a crazy computer op flashpoit is our console arma

[xKyleNxCoD]

what specs do you have, and what fps are you gettong on both games?

[SODihminen]

Original ofp is my answer

[ppitm]

Just skip to the end of video guys. It will show you everything you need to know.

And ignore the close combat parts. Sticking a bunch of lone units in a fake set of corridors and not allowing them to move isn't a fight, it's a reflexes test that the player will always win. DR's AI may be shit, but it's not that bad. Arma's AI is actually capable and the video makes it look like do-nothing

[arthuro13]

lol @ hitbox fails

[10aagun]

the corbra has guided missile but there only anti air

[Commanderjao]

way did OFP:DR have to ruin such an awesome subtitle?

also why did the game have to ruin such awesome trailers?

[MrAlexanderXII]

im thinking of buying ofp dr but is Arma I better coz its the same prize

[wwwNooBcom]

The AI in arma sucks so bad.

[MrSzczuras]

hahaha opflash looks like team fortress XD

[ltjustinw774]

arma is more realistic but i love both of them still



[S33KY]

I like how Arma 2 has the EOTech logo on the 552 holosight

[Banderas23mfr]

OFP DR: ACOG reticule wrong (you won't see the front sight when looking through it), EoTech reticule wrong (crosshair should be slightly over front sight, not on the tip), ACOG type (TA01NSN) is wrong should be TA31F, reload drill is wrong (racking lever instead of pushing in bolt catch on M4/M16/SCAR), AI uses burst fire (RL Marines firing on semi most times), and I could continue through pages...

[ArakNafein]

@Banderas23mfr For the most part youre correct but you gotta remember that the holo sights & acog are adjustable for elevation as well as windage. When adjusted up it is possible for the sights to appear above the front iron sight.

[pkaka1]

how do you can watch around in the helicopter on operation flashpoint dragon rising

[ArakNafein]

@pkaka1 TrackIR

[AvailabileUsername]

On OFP DR for the Xbox 360, the cobra has 2 lock on missiles.

[sgtschmitty8013]

is scerios for PC only cuz i dont think they have them for PS3

[ThaFunkster100]

Well it's clear to say that both AIs suck at CQB

[Banderas23mfr]

@ThaFunkster100 Well I've met many people (although on airsoft occurence) that suck in CQB too :)

[Mikeyc2k6]

Basically, if you're looking for a true(ish) to life war simulation, get ArmA2. If you're looking for a semi-realistic war game choose OFP2... Its literally THAT simple

[ArakNafein]

@Mikeyc2k6 Couldn't have said it better myself.

[420and666]

@Mikeyc2k6 i like your simplicity :D

[soundscapeLP]

yeah but i think bioshock 2 is better than need for speed shift!!!

[Icix1]

OFP2 is a better looking game and is fun to play, it just sucks that Codemasters killed the community.

[ArakNafein]

@Icix1 I prefer the graphics of ARMA 2. OFP2's graphics is more of the same overdone bloom & shiny plastic.

[Icix1]

@ArakNafein

I agree it's more stylized, it's really just a personal preference I guess

[ringosis]

@ArakNafein

Saying you prefer Arma 2s graphics because OFP2 has over done bloom is like saying you prefer chewing on a lemon because oranges are too sour.

[thebestpioltever]

@ringosis Defult (non "modded") OFP2 post proccessing effects are far more worse than ArmA's

Overall, ArmA II is far better than OFP2 mainly because of its community mods, OFP2 doesn't have many mods at all.

[LucanJacups]

@Icix1 I really must say, OFP2 looks a bit outdated. The graphics look watered-down. I much prefer ArmA 2's graphics. I also much prefer ArmA 2.

[fludblud]

ofp2 SHOULD be the better game, it has a far better looking and WAY better running engine that had immense potential for this kind of game. but CM set the bar too high and screwed it up bigtime, the amount of cut content on the files including leaning and trackir support shows us how incomplete it was. armaII may require a pc from god and it's AI may be a bit slow in close quarters but just in terms of content and polish alone together with modability it is far superior.

[eaglebazdmeg]

afther waching this i stay with OFP2 i better like it :O

[lukeE1776]

ArmA 2 15th MEU Realism Unit

[halo3guy50]

AI in OFP2 can aim for shet...its a run and gun game like COD...just run in and guns blazing

[Johnyusa7]

@halo3guy50 LETS PLAY ANNIHILATION N WELL SEE...

[Sangdude]

@halo3guy50 well, just like how there are mods for ARMA2, there are various mods for OPF2 including an AI mod which makes them more accurate :P

[samcycle6]

There is a patch can increas the unit limit up to 80 in OFP2. It's kind of silly to give such a small limit.

But I still hate the lighting system, It's too bright and can't be adjusted directly. The other problem is that AI has infinity ammo. So they just shoot like water hydrant.

Also there are so many stuff that CM had prominsed didn't show up in the real game.

[2bidfilmsguy]

you can get arma 2 on xbox 360 are you serouse

[ArakNafein]

ARMA 2 is not on the Xbox, and it wont be coming to the Xbox. It wont be coming to any console.

[2bidfilmsguy]

i thought so but in an anotation it said something about you hitting the d-pad on your xbox

[ArakNafein]

You can use the Xbox controller on PC.

[RoundenBrown]

@2bidfilmsguy At the moment ArmA 2 is not available on the XBOX 360. However, the developers of ArmA 2 have stated their intention to have the game released on the XBOX 360 someday, similar to Operation Flashpoint 1. It will take some time before it is released for the XBOX 360, though.

[venom0013]

Oh god, I know it's sort of irrelevant to the point of the video, but your sweeps in the CQB situations were terrible.. Heh, if you didn't know where everyone was, you would've got shot in the back of the head at least four or five times.. :D

Anyways, nice vid. I tried the OFP2 editor, and I actually despise it. It seems like a really dumbed down version of the ArmA 2 editor. But where ArmA 2 fails, OFP seems to succeed. OFP2 has prettier animations, better mappings, filters, shadows, etc.

[ArakNafein]

Yeah, I agree...but it's hard to do CQB stuff when you're only getting 20 FPS thanks to FRAPs.

[ArakNafein]

Also, by the time I had put down all the units & barricade walls, for both games...it's hard NOT to know where they are. :P I have a hard time "pretending" to sweep an area when I know there's no-one there.

[ArakNafein]

A proper test would have been a much larger CQB arena, with random troop placement....but I honestly didn't care that much about this video. I simply uploaded it because others asked me to.

[venom0013]

Heh, yeah, I understand. I've been working on a map as well to play with some of my friends, and I've already memorized the compass directions of the towns from the spawn base, and which factions own those towns. The only thing that really throws me off at times is the ACM, and the occasional strafe from a Hind or a Su-34.

But yeah, again, thanks for the video.

In your opinion, which do you prefer?

[1nEGOR]

@ArakNafein but which do u think is better , because i gonna buy 1 of those

[Shudukas123]

wait.. is it sandbox kind of game? like you can go wherever you want? reply please

[ArakNafein]

The main appeal of ARMA 2 is the editor. You can put whatever units down that you want, and go where ever you want to on the 225 sq. km map.

[failtolawl]

late reply :s, in a way. there is an open map campaing (huge map). but everyone plays mission editor.

[Breakerchase]

lol@ 2:11

[NielsShoe]

A fair comparison would be ARMA II with all the best mods available vs  Dragon Rising with all it's mods.

[ArakNafein]

Except OFP2 doesn't have mods. :P

[1Scrub1]

To the obvious DR fanboys -that I might add are obvious- lol: I am riveted by your highly articulated arguments and seek to debate this on the premises you have constructed upon the facts you have illuminated herein... Oh, waiiit.. There are none. Just lemme get the 'ole screen capture fired so my friends can ROFL as well.

[Anthrax602]

@FuzzyMcDoodles

Ok OFP2 fanboy, let's see it.

@Hughes

Let's not get into advertisement here.

[FuzzyMcDoodles]

Just because I'm defending OpFlash doesn't mean I am a fanboy. Sure Operation Flashpoint is the only game I can play (ArmA 2 is too powerful for my PC). I still want to play ArmA 2, and with this mod and others it far surpasses OpFlash. Each has its strenght and weaknesses.

I just wish we can have a proper comparison. The video creator is using a heavily modified ArmA 2 while comparing it to vanilla OpFlash.

Put up a real comparison please...

[ArakNafein]

Why? It would be pretty much the exact same video. The only thing I showed that was "ACE exclusive" was the wind affecting ballistics. But I knew people would complain, so I made sure to label the ARMA videos generously with "ACE mod".

My primary reasons for using the mod in the video was because I wanted to use the EoTech sight & I needed the AH-6 for comparison's sake. Sure, I could've used Cobras, but I have a softspot for the littlebird.

Besides, who plays vanilla ARMA anyways? :P

[ArakNafein]

Also, the main appeal of ARMA IS the mods....which OFP2 does not have. Comparing the two games is pointless anyways, because they are so different. ARMA is a niche sim, OFP2 is not.. I only added the video up because I was requested to.

[FuzzyMcDoodles]

All I'm saying is that a proper comparison would be vanilla ArmA 2 to vanilla OpFlash.

There is no point in comparing a modded game to a non-modded game. Just saying is all...

[ArakNafein]

When one of the points of the video is that OFP2 doesn't even have mods....which have been a staple of PC games for a loooooong time, which, even OFP1 had mods. It's what made it so great, and by relation, ARMA & ARMA 2. I think the point is quite valid.

[Deadsmile100]

There are no mods for OpFlash and the only thing that ACE 2 really changed in this video was the weapons for the most part and then AI a little the ACE 2 mod is still a Beta

[kvuohi]

Congratulations. By stating that you have thoroughly defeated all of his points. The parts where he didn't praise strafeshooting and everything shining much more in DR was a dead giveaway. :)

[Hughes24thMEU]

Not to be mean, but you could have done SO much better demonstrating ArmA II... For anybody who wants to see a REAL demonstration of ArmA gameplay search for  " ArmA 2 15th MEU Realism Unit ". The 15th MEU Realism Unit is a wide based gaming unit for ArmA 2, that portrays the real gameplay performance for the game. OFP is shit compared to what we do...

[ArakNafein]

Oh ya. I agree, there's A LOT not shown here. I was simply trying to do a side-by-side showing similar things between the games & how each game approaches the shooting mechanics & a few other things. A "down to the basics" if you will.

[Hughes24thMEU]

Ah, ok.

[Deadsmile100]

... He made the video for a quick comparison not for a clan retard

[SpartanW98]

im a console gamer and i play of2 and i think its really intense sometimes but i really need to get a good pc so i can play arma.