The biggest danger of social engineering is that we're 'putting all our eggs in one basket' - from the very top, the policy is decided for us. When you mentioned collapsing birthrates I immediately thought of feminism and its effects on marriage.
Being charged with the welfare of an entire nation, and playing games with the culture, is the epitome of hubris.
@StatelessLiberty * "this point" being his argument for social conservatism, not what he said on consequential knowledge (which I obviously agree with).
Sowell is a pure genius. He's the Best mind of our generation.
And the fact that he is not a household name is proof that Leftist only revere and triumph Blacks that espouse the Leftist values of the Liberal plantation.
The fact that this economic mind isn't celebrated on the Lips of "Civil rights advocates" points to the Soft racism that runs rampant and unchecked on the LEFT!
Great video AW ... Thoughtful and insightful ... a dodo-bird video in my Youtube inbox of late.
my main attack against capitalism is that sometimes a company's best interests falls into the hands of someone who realizes "Hey, by screwing over our customer and them not finding out till its to late we can make a whole lot of money."
capitalism assumes that a company's best interest is in giving its customer a good product consistently
and yes we can stop buying their stuff, but if the rest isn't worth buying either then your kinda screwed
@sobored671 That is more likely when limited liability corp.'s exist. If the shareholders (board members are usually biggest shareholders) are only on the hook for a falling/collapsed stock price, then extreme risks and fraud are more likely.
A corporation is a legal concept that protects the managers and owners of capital. I don't think that this protection should exist.
Austrian school economists advocate full liability as consistent with a free market. They are also opposed to patents.
make people pay if they fuck someone over, ya know?
problem is, and this is just how i view it, the more you do that the more socialist it becomes. the guy who i say has it best is howard bloom, who basically says if you dont find a balance your system will collapse
@sobored671 Thanks for the reply. It is almost seredipity that you would mention "system collapse" because I just read a fascinating article as to why a total sudden collapse is very unlikely. The author makes the point that because we have a mixed economy with some market forces at work that it is more likely to be a case of erosion, albeit a rapid one.
Check out Lew Rockwell.com. Scroll down to the article by Gary North. I think it is either the first or second. It is very good.
Well screwing over customers doesn't sound like it would create a "system collapse", that's a tad vague and dialectical. And even if you can conceive of a state that'll fix these problems, in practice states don't because their interests are against it. And these problems you speak of are also probably exaggerated or de-contextualized by anti-freedom busybodies.
I was reading today about a Brazilian logging company ,who had found an 8yr old child from an indigenous tribe wondering around lost , they apparently tied her to a tree and burnt her alive ,it was a cost effective way of sending out a message . how would you address the often psychopathic nature of corporations ? or do you turn a blind eye
Hey D. I got your messages and replied. I'm just not on skype much these days but it would be nice to finally have a call so I'll make a point of putting my online status on more often.
Detroit.. that is 1 fine multicultural city...not really.
It used to.
Now it's 90% black and resembles a post apocalyptic or zombie infested city.
the city that auctions houses for 300 dollars.
I kid u not.
And if none shows interest(cause realistically who wants to live in detroit's third world war-zone), then u can buy a house for as low as one dollar!!!
i kid u not.
Dont believe me?
detroitprogress . com(livable houses;unlivable-needing renovation-houses are auctioned for 300-500$ target)
@AmetReloads ..Detroit the marvel of planned society,meant to be the model for urban development.
Every financial activity was chased out by it's crime stricken slums¶sitical city authority/unions,but public funding hasnt.
Bail outs/state programs in a row, have made Detroit a city that is kept afloat by federal funding(otherwise it would have been a"Zimbabwe"), yet nothing can halt its degeneration.The city is"breached".Every mind that could have built an enterprise,has long abandoned it.
I don't know about some of that Derek, I'm all for cultural conservatism but social conservancy strikes me as just as statist in its social engineering as the progressive left.
I would say I'm left libertarian but I'm not a socialist and people like norm chomsky are social progressive as they come and I don't want any social regulations that can be helped.
I be for the deregulated 'free' market as well except of internationalism that just defeats national cultural values and constituency.
What about things like the drug war? We know though prohibition of alcohol that it's a bad idea, it's why a lot of non violent people are in prison being unproductive for everyone including themselves. If we go by what we have been doing then I don't see things getting better for anyone I just see them getting worse.
@MistressArte The drug war like alcohol prohibition is not part of Western cultural conservatism, it is a statist way of trying to legislate away human vice. Society has done a well enough job before these prohibitions when the people who abused drugs were simply cast out by society.
@kubaniski It is part of the Western cultural conservatism because it's based on Puritan belief structures where you should deny yourself all the pleasures of life to get pleasure in the afterlife. That has been a strong thread through out our history starting when people fled Europe because they saw the government run church and how corrupted it had become and they wanted to practice their religion freely and in a more "pure" way.
@MistressArte Yea obviously I don't favour statist prohibition or prohibition of any kind. Actually Alchohol consumption is obviously a very very very old part of our culture. So has anti-puritanism. There's a reason they left England.
@AsymmetricalWarfare Lol ok, just making sure you were speaking conservative in like less morality laws and not Republican nuttery that's been going on lately. Obama is the best choice but that really isn't saying much they all are bad. T__T He has the best of the worst title. XD
@MistressArte i did not say society completeley shuns everyone who ever drinks or does some sort of drug since drug and alcohol have been used by westerners for centuries and wine is in fact used in churches , It's part of the culture as fuck.
However societies also have ways of casting off people who get consistently shitfaced to the point where its gets deleterious to the society. Which is what I was referring to.
It just sounds like you intuitively trust old things more than new things. It's a neat idea, but it sounds like nitpicking to me. To pick and choose which traditions to follow sounds like being a Cafeteria Catholic.
@TheScrewOnHead Well I'm not arguing for absolutes, I'm describing a tendency and an attitude. Just because it's old and traditional doesn't mean it's right and good. Three thousand years of western culture did not have access to the same information than I do. But then I don't have the benefit of three thousand years of direct experience. I am aware of this fact and it makes me apprehensive, social engineers are not.
Imo there are 2 types of libertarians, there are the ones who seek to use the state to reduce state power and ultimately wish for the transition into a stateless society and the ones who just wish to lower state power but remain a state. I think a good term for libertarians who desire a stateless society could be "Marxist of the right". Now whether you consider them statists or not i guess is up to you. I don't think the state can be used to achieve a stateless society.
@ProDCloud Well Marx held economic theories that I find to be laughable if they weren't so destructive. I'd still prefer to dismantle the state from the inside mostly because I think it would lessen the shock. My plan would be to break the state up into multiple crown corporations and then, say five years later remove the state and thus have them function on their own.
I didn't mean they were "Marxists of the right" because of Marx, i meant they are like Marxists in the sense that they seek to take control of the state to end the state, the only difference is that anti statist-libertarians seek to reduce the power of the state whereas Marxists seek to have increased state power through things like the "dictatorship of the proletariat". Your plan would be ideal imo, but it seems like people today need a reality check.
ugh semantics. ive never concerned myself with the words capitalist, socialist, or anarchist. to me it matters what ppl mean instead of what words they use. a lot of libertarians are comfortable with the word anarchist and then there's other libertarians who love the word capitalism. point is, fakesagan uses that word to make himself look like a badass when he has no idea what the fuck hes talking about. so lets argue with these idiots about what they support instead of what words they use.
@tonygmilan7 Yea I still think language is important. Otherwise how else can we tell what people mean? At any rate the important part of the video is the stuff about consequential knowledge and social conservatism.
average college students don't know shit
MirageScience 3 weeks ago
king and dundas run parallel....you statist bastard
dannytaro 3 weeks ago
@dannytaro Only 3 people in the audience would have gotten that.
AsymmetricalWarfare 3 weeks ago
A nudist in socks and sandels; sounds hot to me :p
hivedragonx 1 month ago
Re social conservativism;
The biggest danger of social engineering is that we're 'putting all our eggs in one basket' - from the very top, the policy is decided for us. When you mentioned collapsing birthrates I immediately thought of feminism and its effects on marriage.
Being charged with the welfare of an entire nation, and playing games with the culture, is the epitome of hubris.
Aurini 1 month ago
King and Dundas? This man lives in Ontario!
Aurini 1 month ago
I don't really agree with Sowell on this point, but I think you explained it very eloquently - great video!
StatelessLiberty 1 month ago
@StatelessLiberty * "this point" being his argument for social conservatism, not what he said on consequential knowledge (which I obviously agree with).
StatelessLiberty 1 month ago
Sowell is a pure genius. He's the Best mind of our generation.
And the fact that he is not a household name is proof that Leftist only revere and triumph Blacks that espouse the Leftist values of the Liberal plantation.
The fact that this economic mind isn't celebrated on the Lips of "Civil rights advocates" points to the Soft racism that runs rampant and unchecked on the LEFT!
Great video AW ... Thoughtful and insightful ... a dodo-bird video in my Youtube inbox of late.
TheAtheistAntidote 1 month ago
my main attack against capitalism is that sometimes a company's best interests falls into the hands of someone who realizes "Hey, by screwing over our customer and them not finding out till its to late we can make a whole lot of money."
capitalism assumes that a company's best interest is in giving its customer a good product consistently
and yes we can stop buying their stuff, but if the rest isn't worth buying either then your kinda screwed
sobored671 1 month ago
@sobored671 That is more likely when limited liability corp.'s exist. If the shareholders (board members are usually biggest shareholders) are only on the hook for a falling/collapsed stock price, then extreme risks and fraud are more likely.
A corporation is a legal concept that protects the managers and owners of capital. I don't think that this protection should exist.
Austrian school economists advocate full liability as consistent with a free market. They are also opposed to patents.
joepeeler34 1 month ago
@joepeeler34 i can agree on that id say
make people pay if they fuck someone over, ya know?
problem is, and this is just how i view it, the more you do that the more socialist it becomes. the guy who i say has it best is howard bloom, who basically says if you dont find a balance your system will collapse
sobored671 1 month ago
@sobored671 Thanks for the reply. It is almost seredipity that you would mention "system collapse" because I just read a fascinating article as to why a total sudden collapse is very unlikely. The author makes the point that because we have a mixed economy with some market forces at work that it is more likely to be a case of erosion, albeit a rapid one.
Check out Lew Rockwell.com. Scroll down to the article by Gary North. I think it is either the first or second. It is very good.
Cheers!
joepeeler34 1 month ago
Well screwing over customers doesn't sound like it would create a "system collapse", that's a tad vague and dialectical. And even if you can conceive of a state that'll fix these problems, in practice states don't because their interests are against it. And these problems you speak of are also probably exaggerated or de-contextualized by anti-freedom busybodies.
fringeelements 1 month ago
@fringeelements 1. never said there was never room for improvement
2. its never just one area of the economy. its when such practice is not punished harshly and quickly enough
sobored671 1 month ago
I was reading today about a Brazilian logging company ,who had found an 8yr old child from an indigenous tribe wondering around lost , they apparently tied her to a tree and burnt her alive ,it was a cost effective way of sending out a message . how would you address the often psychopathic nature of corporations ? or do you turn a blind eye
sausage4mash 1 month ago
Hey D. I got your messages and replied. I'm just not on skype much these days but it would be nice to finally have a call so I'll make a point of putting my online status on more often.
GirlonFilm1969 1 month ago
I wanna make a video critiquing this video. It was really shit.
lovingsingleton 1 month ago
@lovingsingleton Umm do you need help or something? Not that I'd provide it I just don't get this comment.
AsymmetricalWarfare 1 month ago 2
The price of copper is just over 3 dollars and 60 cents. I'll probably make a video response to this as you basically converted me to an anti-statist
snakebitgoat 1 month ago
I haven't seen terminator 4 but, it can't be as bad as terminator 3, right?
paradoarify 1 month ago
@paradoarify Worse. Much much much worse.
AsymmetricalWarfare 1 month ago
Have you heard of Alternativeright. com??
kubaniski 1 month ago
Detroit.. that is 1 fine multicultural city...not really.
It used to.
Now it's 90% black and resembles a post apocalyptic or zombie infested city.
the city that auctions houses for 300 dollars.
I kid u not.
And if none shows interest(cause realistically who wants to live in detroit's third world war-zone), then u can buy a house for as low as one dollar!!!
i kid u not.
Dont believe me?
detroitprogress . com(livable houses;unlivable-needing renovation-houses are auctioned for 300-500$ target)
AmetReloads 1 month ago
@AmetReloads ..Detroit the marvel of planned society,meant to be the model for urban development.
Every financial activity was chased out by it's crime stricken slums¶sitical city authority/unions,but public funding hasnt.
Bail outs/state programs in a row, have made Detroit a city that is kept afloat by federal funding(otherwise it would have been a"Zimbabwe"), yet nothing can halt its degeneration.The city is"breached".Every mind that could have built an enterprise,has long abandoned it.
AmetReloads 1 month ago
I don't know about some of that Derek, I'm all for cultural conservatism but social conservancy strikes me as just as statist in its social engineering as the progressive left.
I would say I'm left libertarian but I'm not a socialist and people like norm chomsky are social progressive as they come and I don't want any social regulations that can be helped.
I be for the deregulated 'free' market as well except of internationalism that just defeats national cultural values and constituency.
Curas1 1 month ago
What about things like the drug war? We know though prohibition of alcohol that it's a bad idea, it's why a lot of non violent people are in prison being unproductive for everyone including themselves. If we go by what we have been doing then I don't see things getting better for anyone I just see them getting worse.
MistressArte 1 month ago
@MistressArte The drug war like alcohol prohibition is not part of Western cultural conservatism, it is a statist way of trying to legislate away human vice. Society has done a well enough job before these prohibitions when the people who abused drugs were simply cast out by society.
kubaniski 1 month ago
@kubaniski It is part of the Western cultural conservatism because it's based on Puritan belief structures where you should deny yourself all the pleasures of life to get pleasure in the afterlife. That has been a strong thread through out our history starting when people fled Europe because they saw the government run church and how corrupted it had become and they wanted to practice their religion freely and in a more "pure" way.
MistressArte 1 month ago
@MistressArte Yea obviously I don't favour statist prohibition or prohibition of any kind. Actually Alchohol consumption is obviously a very very very old part of our culture. So has anti-puritanism. There's a reason they left England.
AsymmetricalWarfare 1 month ago
@AsymmetricalWarfare Lol ok, just making sure you were speaking conservative in like less morality laws and not Republican nuttery that's been going on lately. Obama is the best choice but that really isn't saying much they all are bad. T__T He has the best of the worst title. XD
MistressArte 1 month ago
@MistressArte i did not say society completeley shuns everyone who ever drinks or does some sort of drug since drug and alcohol have been used by westerners for centuries and wine is in fact used in churches , It's part of the culture as fuck.
However societies also have ways of casting off people who get consistently shitfaced to the point where its gets deleterious to the society. Which is what I was referring to.
Puritanism is a recent and protestant phenomena.
kubaniski 1 month ago
I love you and want to have your babies
kubaniski 1 month ago
I hope that drink has some alcohol in it.
utubehayter 1 month ago
This was a nice video.
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It just sounds like you intuitively trust old things more than new things. It's a neat idea, but it sounds like nitpicking to me. To pick and choose which traditions to follow sounds like being a Cafeteria Catholic.
TheScrewOnHead 1 month ago
@TheScrewOnHead Well I'm not arguing for absolutes, I'm describing a tendency and an attitude. Just because it's old and traditional doesn't mean it's right and good. Three thousand years of western culture did not have access to the same information than I do. But then I don't have the benefit of three thousand years of direct experience. I am aware of this fact and it makes me apprehensive, social engineers are not.
AsymmetricalWarfare 1 month ago
Imo there are 2 types of libertarians, there are the ones who seek to use the state to reduce state power and ultimately wish for the transition into a stateless society and the ones who just wish to lower state power but remain a state. I think a good term for libertarians who desire a stateless society could be "Marxist of the right". Now whether you consider them statists or not i guess is up to you. I don't think the state can be used to achieve a stateless society.
ProDCloud 1 month ago
@ProDCloud Well Marx held economic theories that I find to be laughable if they weren't so destructive. I'd still prefer to dismantle the state from the inside mostly because I think it would lessen the shock. My plan would be to break the state up into multiple crown corporations and then, say five years later remove the state and thus have them function on their own.
AsymmetricalWarfare 1 month ago
@AsymmetricalWarfare
I didn't mean they were "Marxists of the right" because of Marx, i meant they are like Marxists in the sense that they seek to take control of the state to end the state, the only difference is that anti statist-libertarians seek to reduce the power of the state whereas Marxists seek to have increased state power through things like the "dictatorship of the proletariat". Your plan would be ideal imo, but it seems like people today need a reality check.
ProDCloud 1 month ago
@AsymmetricalWarfare Without the state, how will I tie my shoes?
xXMetalMeltdownXx 1 month ago
@xXMetalMeltdownXx Outsource mah fucka!!!
AsymmetricalWarfare 1 month ago
Thomas Sowell is brilliant. He's a treasure that's not fully appreciated in his own time. Inspite of our best efforts.
ravenslaves 1 month ago
derpderp
tetrahydroscope 1 month ago
National Anarchsim FTW!!!
tetrahydroscope 1 month ago
ugh semantics. ive never concerned myself with the words capitalist, socialist, or anarchist. to me it matters what ppl mean instead of what words they use. a lot of libertarians are comfortable with the word anarchist and then there's other libertarians who love the word capitalism. point is, fakesagan uses that word to make himself look like a badass when he has no idea what the fuck hes talking about. so lets argue with these idiots about what they support instead of what words they use.
tonygmilan7 1 month ago
@tonygmilan7 Yea I still think language is important. Otherwise how else can we tell what people mean? At any rate the important part of the video is the stuff about consequential knowledge and social conservatism.
AsymmetricalWarfare 1 month ago