The christian religion is based on a book written thousands of years ago by superstitious men who burnt blood sacrifices to an angry and jealous god..The bible is full of fairy tales like talking snakes,talking bushes,talking donkeys,people turning into salt,zombies,ghost impregnating virgins,etc,etc....Seriously Grow up
I've watched all those guys and I've seen them in debates...They don't present evidence for christianity version of a god...They're just basically stating that since we don't know how the universe started then there must be a god...That's called god of the gaps...I will not put my ignorance on an alter and call it a god..
"our separated brethren, whether considered as individuals or as Communities and Churches, are NOT blessed with that unity which Jesus Christ wished to bestow on all those who through Him were born again into one body... For it is only through Christ’s Catholic Church, which is “the all-embracing means of salvation,” that they can benefit fully from the means of salvation." (VAT-II UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO, Chapter 1, Paragraph 3e).
@OneTrueChurch The reason I cited that quote is "salvation outside of the Church" is one doctrine which is often held in dispute.
Ok. Could you cite a specific example of an alleged heresy which the document has and the ex-Cathedra statement which contradicts Vat-II. I would like enough information so I can look these documents up myself.
@OneTrueChurch You are in grave error. You twist logic and scriptures to fit a loony conspiracy theory. Christ has made a promise that he has kept, and will keep until he comes again. You cannot continue to scatter the flock. Please prayerfully rethink your opinions. I Pray for You.
Jesus never promised that we would never be without a pope. The papacy is vacant every time a pope dies. He promised that his church would never teach error but the V2 "popes" have taught many errors so if they are popes then the gates of hell have prevailed. All bishops have the power to consecrate bishops, in the absence of a true pope, there would be no need for a papal mandate
@OneTrueChurch There is a difference here. You are correct there are interregnums every time a Pope dies. I don't dispute that. However, I was referring to the sedevacantist claim that one single interregnum has gone on for so long that there are (supposedly) no valid Cardinals to hold a conclave. To claim that there are no more valid Cardinals is to claim that Hell has prevailed against the Church.
The reign of JP-II was so long that "sedes" make that claim.
Grown men who thinks there is actually an invisible imaginary god without a shred of evidence is really super disturbing.....Catholics are extremely evil....The reason they don't make videos anymore is because they were shamed back under their rocks. . .grow up . .seriously . .You have no idea the creepy vibes yall give off. .peace
@0019josh7100 Stop whining and watch videos or read books of William Lane Craig; Peter Kreeft, Father Barron; Scott Hahn; C. S. Lewis; Lee Strobel and many more.
Christian mythology was written thousands of years ago by superstitious men that gave up blood sacrifices to an angry and jealous god that is full of vengence and wrath. Your ancient text is full of unsupported supernatural claims a talking snake,a talking bush,talking donkeys,zombies,ghost impregnating virgins,etc,etc.....The bible also condones slavery,rape,murder,and genocide. .Your version of a god is also a tyrant. Christians are delusional . .
Lay people have no authority to depose a pope, show me an ipso facto vatican one document. The protestants are the ones who reject the papacy and pretty much everything catholic that they don't understand. There's no ONE holy protestant church, but there's certainly a One Holy and apostolic Catholic Church. All sedevacantism does is to steal the appearance of catholicism and try to look catholic on the surface, but all it has is empty and dry vessels, dead sacraments.
How does it feel to participate in seven empty sacramets? I could just go to any protestant church and participate in their supper and eat empty bread and empty wine, Christless bread and Christless wine. There's no growth in santification eating bread and wine only. That could be done at home. Sedevacantism is just another for of protestantism.
are you totally ignorant? Traditional Catholic Churches like mine have valid sacraments and validly ordained priests. it is your novus ordo "church" that has invalid eucharist because you have an invalid mass and invalidly ordained priests/bishops
@OneTrueChurch Matthew 23:1-3: Then said Jesus to the crowds and to his disciples, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat; so practice and observe whatever they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice.
(**NOTE - Just as the scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, the Pope sits on the chair of Peter. And notice how Jesus told everyone to obey the scribes and the Pharisees,--
@OneTrueChurch (-- even though they were sinners. Just so, we have to obey the Pope in matters of faith and morals in the Church, even if the Pope is a sinner).
if your church is not in union with The Bishop of Rome, you are NOT Catholic.
I think i talked to you about this already. the vatican II "popes" are not just mortal sinners. they are heretics. The faith and morals that they preach are not inline with catholic teaching. we are obliged to follow popes if they are mortal sinners, but NOT if they are manifest heretics. most of them were heretics prior to their "elections" so they were never true popes to begin with. You say i am not catholic? Well B16 constantly praises noncatholics.
@OneTrueChurch im giving you proof via scripture that we still have to obey our present Pope, BTW just as Jesus said the scribes etc.. sit on the chair of Moses AKA Peter, we have to obey, how are they heretics? if you think they are heretics you obviously don't understand Papal Infallibility, whats worse Blessed PopeJPII kissing the quran or St.Peter slicing the ear off Malchus?
When Jesus spoke those words, were were still under the old covenant and the church had not yet been established. Under the new covenant things are different. It is church teaching that a heretic cannot be pope and that we cannot follow a heretic. JP2 and B16 have committed heresy by both word and deed. See my vids to demonstrate this. JP2 kissing the koran is worse cause by doing so he is venerating a book which denies christ. This is heresy. Peter committed sin but not heresy
@OneTrueChurch Blessed PopeJPII is the nicest man in the world, Jesus said love your enemies, you really think, he would throw their book down and cause WW3? whats worse that or St.Peter denying Jesus 3x? The Chair of Moses in the OT symbolized the chair of Peter, it was a infallible authority,
Moses was succeeded by Peter, who had committed to his hands the new Church of Christ, and the true priesthood. (Macarius, Hom. xxvi. n. 23, p. 101)St. Macarius of Egypt (371)
@OneTrueChurch You and MysticalCity really need to look into the Orthodox Church. Obviously the Novas Ordo and mainline Catholicism is heretical, but so is sedevacantism.
@OneTrueChurch You mentioned that sedevacantists believe very few people will be saved. That is not a god of love and mercy. That is a god of excessive hate. That is a viewpoint of those "fundamentalist" protestant sectarians. That is a god that does not know is creation. Are you kidding me? God will send almost everyone to Hell. People are born inherently evil? By holding this viewpoint, you reject the Incarnation. I am so happy I am no longer a Western Christian and now Eastern Orthodox.
@magnus56j The CC still teaches no salvation outside the church, before you criticize Gods Church, look at all 18 of your heretical sects which tell people its ok to use contraception and get divorced and remarried, which send millions to hell everyday, i know personally 3 orthodox who got remarried twice each, and they won't even think about becoming Catholic, why? because they know what God's Church teaches, ZERO TOLERANCE for sin. Come home, the time is short.
@magnus56j your church approves contraception,divorce and remarriage,also heretical teachings such as no Heaven until Jesus returns, and contradiction between one sect that says toll houses are real when another sect condemns it??? God is not the author of confusion.Which is why Our Blessed Mother wants Russia converted to The Catholic Faith. so obviously a lot has changed for orthodox church, do you believe in The Holy Trinity? that's a dogma, along with purgatory and the Immaculate Conception
@MysticalCity Actually Pope Benedict XVI said that Orthodoxy is not heretical and that they are Church. Which means that he accepts Orthodoxy to be a part of the Body of Christ. The Roman Catholic Church also allows Orthodox Christians to receive Communion (although an Orthodox wouldn't dare do so) which means that they accept us as part of the Body of Christ. Orthodoxy on the other hand has the boldness to call Roman Catholics heretical and don't accept you as part of the Body of Christ.
@magnus56j was he speaking ex cathedra? not everything the Pope says is infallible, there are certain requirements, and plus Pope Benedict is a nice, dude, your not going to convert the orthodox by calling them heretics, Padre Pio, converted entire orthodox churches to the Catholic Faith, and he didn't even mention it, the orthodox converted on their own. You can read their testimonies and what they think about their church after converting.
@magnus56j you mean 2 protestants converted 500,000+ to protestantism? its no different then Catholics becoming protestant everyday, The 2nd Person of The Holy Trinity started The Catholic Church, and His Mother guides it, you must of forgot the 9 million pagans that converted to Catholicism in Mexico. Also the orthodox will convert whenever the Pope, consecrates Russia to The Immaculate Heart of Mary, just as she told, in Fatima in 1917.
@MysticalCity I really have more important things to do then listen to your contempt and your hatred of Orthodox Christianity. It is better for me to just end this now so that I myself don't run the risk of spewing bitterness, spewing malice, spewing accusations, or cursing and condemning. I don't want to be like that. If you want to debate someone, try JohnTheHutDweller. I'm sure he will make a video response to you if to you write him a personal message. You can mention contraception and stuff
@magnus56j i already gave you proof via messages, i have sent e-mails,messages etc... to orthodox churches, and they never respond, i got blocked by greekorthodoxtv, for giving 1 quote from an early Church Father, i refuted everything they said, its really sad they even had to lie in some instances, if i were a orthodox, I would have a real problem with the recent compromises on morality in my church. This would move me to ask questions about what I really believe and why.
@MysticalCity Most bishops of the Orthodox Church, as far as I know are against contraception. Most bishops and hierachs from the Orthodox Church praised Humanae Vitae. So, that means the Orthodox Church as a whole, does not condone contraception. I myself am against it. But, perhaps the reason people aren't answering you is because you may be using contempt. You are also shoving you beliefs down their throat, like you did with me. It's rude, it's so rude. JohnTheHutDweller I'm sure would answer
@magnus56j i apologize that it looks rude,but im not trying to be, i just don't understand how someone can say, they researched something and not be Catholic, anyway, its not up to the bishops, what people fail to realize is that the orthodox church approves it, along with divorce and remarriage, so they wouldn't even have to ask the bishops, they already know. and like i said i have argued and been blocked by high ranking orthodox people, it ain't gonna change with john.
@MysticalCity "I don't understand how someone can say, the researched something and not be Catholic." I did research a lot. I went to Catholic school for 13 years. Don't you think it's kind of arrogant that you think you have all the answers? I'm no longer Catholic for a lot of reasons. I mean if you think it this is really a simple situation and a simple solution between the Orthodox and Catholic Churches then they would have united by now. Btw, JohnTheHutDweller made a video response to you.
@magnus56j i also went to a Catholic school, but did not learn nothing, you know how many atheists there are in Catholic schools? so someone is not doing there job right, also as for uniting, Our Blessed Mother told The Pope to consecrate Russia, but the Orthodox don't even want to talk about it, Blessed JP2 tried to bring them back, nothing happened. Even a Russian Orthodox high ranking official converted to Catholicism and wanted Russia to unite with Rome, they kicked him out.
i have a question. do you follow the illuminati and their agendas? (google viligant citizen) the illuminati ideas would go really well with your views/truths on 'christian' religions. like the priests that did the molesting were not really priests and the church was infiltrated by the illuminati. i know that the illuminati agenda seems like a conspiracy theory but i do believe what they are trying to do in the world
Great video. Thanks for standing up for the True Catholic Faith of all time. People need to study the Church from the time Christ instituted it to now to see who went wrong where. If they are honestly looking for the truth, they will see that the Church from the time of John XXIII forward is not the Catholic Church and that the See of Peter has been occupied by anti-popes since that time and still continues to be. The Bible mentions of false sheperds.
More videos refuting the Catholic Church? Sorry Glenn, but you had your chance. As far as I can remember, you failed to even answer a simple question posted to you. Perhaps your computers broke down so that you may not spread your errors via the internet and thereby condemn yourself even more. Pray, mate, pray.
St. Pius X (TENTH) was a good Pope and if the church you ave been going to is named for him and true to the magisterium, then great. There's a sect that has taken his name and they are not in communion with the Catholic Church.
Sedecavantist? No please don't do this! I used to recommend people to your channel but I can't do that anymore. As a Sedecavantist your no better than a Protestant! You are protesting the legitimacy of the Vicar of Christ. I hope you come back. You are such a loss to the Apologetic Community.
No better than a protestant? really? It is your "popes" who are protestant since they pray with protestants and say that protestants are not heretics (see B16's book "Coworkers in truth")
@OneTrueChurch Is it heresy to teach that there are imperfect connections between Catholics and Protestants? You talk like we don't even care whether they're Catholic or not, like we're not trying to share the true church with them and convert them. If you find an official document that says that, that's something I'd like to see.
@pmfrankcabrera The Vatican II Church has been protesting the Catholic Church for almost 50 years now.
But they seem to do it unknowingly. They seem to have convinced themselves that they aren't changing what has always been taught, but the reality is that they are. Today's apostasy is happening, not because anybody wants it to happen, but because God said it would happen in the latter times. Father, forgive the leaders of the Vatican II Church, for they do not seem to know what they do.
The priests that I receive sacraments from were ordained by either Archbishop Lefebre or by Bishop Mendez both validly ordained bishops. Bishop Mendez consecrated Fr. Kelly a bishop, and just 3 or 4 years ago, Bishop Kelly consecrated Fr. Santay (now Bishop Santay).
"The priests that I receive sacraments from were ordained by either Archbishop Lefebre or by Bishop Mendez both validly ordained bishops."
I'm still a bit confused. I understand that you say that the ordination ceremonies are invalid, but what I don't understand is exactly where a sedevancatist bishop got his ordination after John XXIII instituted change in the ordination services. Have they been ordained by Bishops of the Orthodox churches? Where is the continuity?
Archbishop Leferbre was validly consecrated under the Traditional Rite of Consecration of bishop. He used the Traditional form to consecrate bishops and the Traditional rite of ordination to ordain priests. Same with Bishop Mendez
I figured as much, but I'm wandering about more information. Under who's authority did this begin to happen, or is it similar to the succession of bishops in the Orthodox church? I'm just curious about who's authority the succession of these bishops is being carried on. Do you have any references you can point me towards? I'm sure it is too complicated to explain in these forsaken comment boxes.
As for the FSSP, they are part of the novus ordo. They say the novus ordo mass at least once a year and almost all FSSP churches alsohave a novus ordo mass. Also most of their "priests" and "Bishops" were ordained under the phony new rite of ordination/consecration. The FSSP is just an extension of the novus ordo to keep traditionally minded people trapped within the novus ordo church. Also the mass they say is the 1962 mass of antipope John XXIII
do you consider the Pius XII a pope since he made all those changes in the Holy Week in '55?(although i'm a regular catholic with strong traditional aspirations i consider those changes to be unnecessary - i think we lost a great tradition)
what's wrong with pope John and his Missal? he only removed the third confiteor and ordered that the priest on a high Mass must not read the readings silently while they are sung by subdeacon and deacon...
Seriously, I've looked everywhere for a poster like that and cannot find one. I'm listening to William Alb. and Brother Diamond debate right now ... very interesting indeed. I am beginning to see more and more the Sedecavantist position, but am hesitant because of the strict view on ignorance and salvation. Will brings up good arguments from scripture, but it is obvious Mr. Diamond knows his councils and Church documents (as does Will). Interpretation is the key here, and they both differ
Hey, forgot to ask, since your a Sedecavantist now ... its been a while now eh? I was wondering if you could sell that poster you had in the background (the line of Popes from Peter...) Seeing (pun) that the chair may stay empty for a while, it may just become worthless to you... But hey, the gates of hell will never prevail against my Church, I'll take it and hang it with pride my friend! Glenn, wake up and stop with this Sedecav.. nonsense. Your better than this...
as for the poster in the background, i put masking tape over the faces of John XXIII-B16 and wrote the words "sedevacante". Stop being sede? What alternative are you suggesting? Take part in the idolatry of the novus ordo antipopes?
It's interesting to watch professing Roman Catholics dispute over who belongs to the 'true church', in light of how many of them always talk about how many Protestant denominations there are and how they are all different. It appears that Catholics should not even resort to these types of arguments since there are different denominations within Catholicism itself.
@unicoestilo Your comparing apples and oranges with this argument. The Protestant Ref. was a whole other beast when compared to these traditionalist groups. The Catholic Church accepts the sacraments of SSPV, SSPX and other groups, thus any Catholic may attend Mass and other functions (esp. sacraments). The major problem comes with the question of papal authority... and as Glenn said, there is no major consensus... Protestants were excommunicated, while these groups are not...
@unicoestilo When Protestants disagree, none of them have a central authority to point toward, save for the Bible that they each interpret differently. When Catholics disagree, only one group can point to the existing magisterium.
@OneTrueChurch Exactly. Because if there weren't existing Magisterium, then there would be no authority. Catholics would only have the Scriptures and Traditions, with various groups interpreting them differently. And it would be just as unicoestillo described--different denominations within Catholicism itself, with no real way of knowing which group has the "right" interpretation.
@BaronGrackle I do not totally agree with the second part of your comment. You said that "When Catholics disagree, only one group can point to the existing magesterium." While it is true that only one group can point to the existing magesterium, the other Catholic groups appeal to different authorities and still profess to be Catholics.
@unicoestilo The Sedes appeal to bishops, but so did the Anglicans (who also consider themselves to be Catholic). Without an active pope, and without any agreement or organization on how to elect that pope, the sedes are ultimately missing a key component of the magisterium.
It would be different if they actually had a replacement magisterium in place. Then we'd have antipopes.
A Methodist might ask themselves if a Baptist is saved, and if so, what the value is to being a Methodist. Likewise, you must be certain that the "Society of St. Pius V" is indeed the one true church. If it isn't the one true Catholic Church, then why are you in it as opposed to the true one?
And if it is the true Church, then... well, only 11 U.S. states currently have access to full communion. It sure is convenient that you live in one of them.
Ok, first of all the SSPV is not a "church" its an organization of priests who offer the Traditional Latin Mass and they have never claimed that they were the only way. members of my church also attend SSPX chapels and other traditional chapels. The SSPV is completely identical in beliefs (at least when it comes to defined dogma) to the other "mainline" traditionalist groups. Although they do have issues with certain individuals based on their ACTIONS (not beliefs)
@OneTrueChurch Your denomination broke away from the Society of St. Pius X in 1983. There's clearly disagreement there. And apparently there's even contention among your own on whether the chair of St. Peter is vacant.
If the Society of St. Pius V disagrees with the Society of St. Pius X about a critical teaching, then whose office is it to set the matter straight? And how can you elect a new pontiff, if you cannot even agree on whether the chair is unoccupied?
There is no "contention" over the sede issue. the SSPV considers it to be a nondogmatic theological opinion so there can be disagreement. but again, all agree that B16 cannot be followed because of the things that he is promoting. The nine priests who became the SSPV were kicked out of the SSPX because they would not go along with Lefebre's negotiations with the new vatican. Is their confusion? Yes. Thats what happens when 99% of the church is in apostasy.
@OneTrueChurch Except that the confusion isn't within the Church in communion with Rome. We have a set belief; we have a pontiff; and, whether you believe so or not, our dogma in keeping with the thousands of years of church history.
Your group has no pontiff. It has no means of choosing a pontiff, since its members cannot agree on whether a supposed heretic counts or not. And when disagreements do arise between your specific society and another, there will never be an arbiter.
If you do make more videos, it'd be interesting to hear your take on how few are within range of salvation. The Society of St. Pius V apparently only exists in the United States. And only in 12 states.
Does this mean that only people in those 12 states will have access to the "true" Catholic Church? Or is your creed identical to that of other traditionalist sects? And if so, why are your sects not united?
You find yourself having to answer the same questions that Protestants face. (cont'd)
What do the SSPV believe about the Chair of Peter? Is it empty or is Benedict XVI the rightful claimant? I've heard and read many differing views on this matter.
The official position of the SSPV is that there is an objective doubt to the papacy of John XXIII, Paul VI, JP I, JP2, and B16 and most, if not all, of the priests would say that it is their opinion that the see is vacant but that they cannot say this with absolute certainty. However, they would say that we do have absolute certainty that the things that they promote are totally against Catholic teaching and therefore we most expose these errors and resist them
@OneTrueChurch I think you should get in touch with others groups, such as the FSSP. These breakaway traditionalist groups are very gray on important matters. A lot of questions arise from this matter of Peter's Chair being vacant. What is your personal belief about the Chair good Sir? Also, what are the major teachings they oppose from the current Catholic diaspora of practice or belief? A video on that would be great one day, but a brief text would suffice here... Pax.
@OneTrueChurch are you saying that this society is not definite on whether or not the current Pope is the true Pope? are they willing to accept, if it was ever shown to them, that this pope is true reguardless of any heresy? if you understand what I mean
Vatican 2 was not a infallible council nor was it meant to be.
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@Ebenezer887
The christian religion is based on a book written thousands of years ago by superstitious men who burnt blood sacrifices to an angry and jealous god..The bible is full of fairy tales like talking snakes,talking bushes,talking donkeys,people turning into salt,zombies,ghost impregnating virgins,etc,etc....Seriously Grow up
0019josh7100 2 months ago
@Ebenezer887
I've watched all those guys and I've seen them in debates...They don't present evidence for christianity version of a god...They're just basically stating that since we don't know how the universe started then there must be a god...That's called god of the gaps...I will not put my ignorance on an alter and call it a god..
0019josh7100 2 months ago
Love you vids. You´re special. Please do you vids which you have on mind. Sure, they will be special for catholic faith.
TheUnknownVisiterX 2 months ago
"our separated brethren, whether considered as individuals or as Communities and Churches, are NOT blessed with that unity which Jesus Christ wished to bestow on all those who through Him were born again into one body... For it is only through Christ’s Catholic Church, which is “the all-embracing means of salvation,” that they can benefit fully from the means of salvation." (VAT-II UNITATIS REDINTEGRATIO, Chapter 1, Paragraph 3e).
How is this heresy?
sulkow82 3 months ago
@sulkow82
Not this particular quote, but there are many heresies in unitates redentigratio
OneTrueChurch 3 months ago
@OneTrueChurch The reason I cited that quote is "salvation outside of the Church" is one doctrine which is often held in dispute.
Ok. Could you cite a specific example of an alleged heresy which the document has and the ex-Cathedra statement which contradicts Vat-II. I would like enough information so I can look these documents up myself.
sulkow82 3 months ago
@OneTrueChurch You are in grave error. You twist logic and scriptures to fit a loony conspiracy theory. Christ has made a promise that he has kept, and will keep until he comes again. You cannot continue to scatter the flock. Please prayerfully rethink your opinions. I Pray for You.
NickEspo1000 2 months ago
hope to contact one true church to ask more about the traditional mass thanks
believe8ful 3 weeks ago
to one true church hi i want to know more of the traditional catholic mass and how can i contact you
believe8ful 3 weeks ago
@believe8ful
just send me a private message and tell me what city you live in
OneTrueChurch 3 weeks ago
Hello, OTC
It is wonderful that you have found a place where you are spiritually fed.
I, however, don't see it as how the Papacy can be vacant and yet the promise that Christ would never leave us.
If the Papacy is vacant, then who has Christ granted the authority to send forth new Bishops?
When you have the time, I still have a commentary video (I admit it is not scholarly). I look forward to your opinion.
sulkow82 3 months ago
@sulkow82
Jesus never promised that we would never be without a pope. The papacy is vacant every time a pope dies. He promised that his church would never teach error but the V2 "popes" have taught many errors so if they are popes then the gates of hell have prevailed. All bishops have the power to consecrate bishops, in the absence of a true pope, there would be no need for a papal mandate
OneTrueChurch 3 months ago
@OneTrueChurch There is a difference here. You are correct there are interregnums every time a Pope dies. I don't dispute that. However, I was referring to the sedevacantist claim that one single interregnum has gone on for so long that there are (supposedly) no valid Cardinals to hold a conclave. To claim that there are no more valid Cardinals is to claim that Hell has prevailed against the Church.
The reign of JP-II was so long that "sedes" make that claim.
sulkow82 3 months ago
Grown men who thinks there is actually an invisible imaginary god without a shred of evidence is really super disturbing.....Catholics are extremely evil....The reason they don't make videos anymore is because they were shamed back under their rocks. . .grow up . .seriously . .You have no idea the creepy vibes yall give off. .peace
0019josh7100 3 months ago
@0019josh7100 Stop whining and watch videos or read books of William Lane Craig; Peter Kreeft, Father Barron; Scott Hahn; C. S. Lewis; Lee Strobel and many more.
Ebenezer887 2 months ago
Christian mythology was written thousands of years ago by superstitious men that gave up blood sacrifices to an angry and jealous god that is full of vengence and wrath. Your ancient text is full of unsupported supernatural claims a talking snake,a talking bush,talking donkeys,zombies,ghost impregnating virgins,etc,etc.....The bible also condones slavery,rape,murder,and genocide. .Your version of a god is also a tyrant. Christians are delusional . .
0019josh7100 3 months ago
Lay people have no authority to depose a pope, show me an ipso facto vatican one document. The protestants are the ones who reject the papacy and pretty much everything catholic that they don't understand. There's no ONE holy protestant church, but there's certainly a One Holy and apostolic Catholic Church. All sedevacantism does is to steal the appearance of catholicism and try to look catholic on the surface, but all it has is empty and dry vessels, dead sacraments.
Ebenezer887 4 months ago
How does it feel to participate in seven empty sacramets? I could just go to any protestant church and participate in their supper and eat empty bread and empty wine, Christless bread and Christless wine. There's no growth in santification eating bread and wine only. That could be done at home. Sedevacantism is just another for of protestantism.
Ebenezer887 4 months ago
@Ebenezer887
are you totally ignorant? Traditional Catholic Churches like mine have valid sacraments and validly ordained priests. it is your novus ordo "church" that has invalid eucharist because you have an invalid mass and invalidly ordained priests/bishops
OneTrueChurch 4 months ago
@OneTrueChurch Matthew 23:1-3: Then said Jesus to the crowds and to his disciples, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat; so practice and observe whatever they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice.
(**NOTE - Just as the scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, the Pope sits on the chair of Peter. And notice how Jesus told everyone to obey the scribes and the Pharisees,--
MysticalCity 3 months ago
@OneTrueChurch (-- even though they were sinners. Just so, we have to obey the Pope in matters of faith and morals in the Church, even if the Pope is a sinner).
if your church is not in union with The Bishop of Rome, you are NOT Catholic.
MysticalCity 3 months ago
@MysticalCity
I think i talked to you about this already. the vatican II "popes" are not just mortal sinners. they are heretics. The faith and morals that they preach are not inline with catholic teaching. we are obliged to follow popes if they are mortal sinners, but NOT if they are manifest heretics. most of them were heretics prior to their "elections" so they were never true popes to begin with. You say i am not catholic? Well B16 constantly praises noncatholics.
OneTrueChurch 3 months ago
@OneTrueChurch im giving you proof via scripture that we still have to obey our present Pope, BTW just as Jesus said the scribes etc.. sit on the chair of Moses AKA Peter, we have to obey, how are they heretics? if you think they are heretics you obviously don't understand Papal Infallibility, whats worse Blessed PopeJPII kissing the quran or St.Peter slicing the ear off Malchus?
MysticalCity 3 months ago
@MysticalCity
When Jesus spoke those words, were were still under the old covenant and the church had not yet been established. Under the new covenant things are different. It is church teaching that a heretic cannot be pope and that we cannot follow a heretic. JP2 and B16 have committed heresy by both word and deed. See my vids to demonstrate this. JP2 kissing the koran is worse cause by doing so he is venerating a book which denies christ. This is heresy. Peter committed sin but not heresy
OneTrueChurch 3 months ago
@OneTrueChurch Blessed PopeJPII is the nicest man in the world, Jesus said love your enemies, you really think, he would throw their book down and cause WW3? whats worse that or St.Peter denying Jesus 3x? The Chair of Moses in the OT symbolized the chair of Peter, it was a infallible authority,
Moses was succeeded by Peter, who had committed to his hands the new Church of Christ, and the true priesthood. (Macarius, Hom. xxvi. n. 23, p. 101)St. Macarius of Egypt (371)
MysticalCity 3 months ago
@OneTrueChurch You and MysticalCity really need to look into the Orthodox Church. Obviously the Novas Ordo and mainline Catholicism is heretical, but so is sedevacantism.
magnus56j 3 months ago
@OneTrueChurch You mentioned that sedevacantists believe very few people will be saved. That is not a god of love and mercy. That is a god of excessive hate. That is a viewpoint of those "fundamentalist" protestant sectarians. That is a god that does not know is creation. Are you kidding me? God will send almost everyone to Hell. People are born inherently evil? By holding this viewpoint, you reject the Incarnation. I am so happy I am no longer a Western Christian and now Eastern Orthodox.
magnus56j 3 months ago
@magnus56j The CC still teaches no salvation outside the church, before you criticize Gods Church, look at all 18 of your heretical sects which tell people its ok to use contraception and get divorced and remarried, which send millions to hell everyday, i know personally 3 orthodox who got remarried twice each, and they won't even think about becoming Catholic, why? because they know what God's Church teaches, ZERO TOLERANCE for sin. Come home, the time is short.
MysticalCity 3 months ago
@MysticalCity I am home, in Orthodox Catholicism. You teach all these heresies and then beg us for unity. No thank you.
magnus56j 3 months ago
@magnus56j your church approves contraception,divorce and remarriage,also heretical teachings such as no Heaven until Jesus returns, and contradiction between one sect that says toll houses are real when another sect condemns it??? God is not the author of confusion.Which is why Our Blessed Mother wants Russia converted to The Catholic Faith. so obviously a lot has changed for orthodox church, do you believe in The Holy Trinity? that's a dogma, along with purgatory and the Immaculate Conception
MysticalCity 3 months ago
@MysticalCity Actually Pope Benedict XVI said that Orthodoxy is not heretical and that they are Church. Which means that he accepts Orthodoxy to be a part of the Body of Christ. The Roman Catholic Church also allows Orthodox Christians to receive Communion (although an Orthodox wouldn't dare do so) which means that they accept us as part of the Body of Christ. Orthodoxy on the other hand has the boldness to call Roman Catholics heretical and don't accept you as part of the Body of Christ.
magnus56j 3 months ago
@magnus56j was he speaking ex cathedra? not everything the Pope says is infallible, there are certain requirements, and plus Pope Benedict is a nice, dude, your not going to convert the orthodox by calling them heretics, Padre Pio, converted entire orthodox churches to the Catholic Faith, and he didn't even mention it, the orthodox converted on their own. You can read their testimonies and what they think about their church after converting.
MysticalCity 3 months ago
@MysticalCity So. Look at Guatamala. Two Orthodox priests converted 550,000 Roman Catholics to Orthodoxy.
magnus56j 3 months ago
@magnus56j you mean 2 protestants converted 500,000+ to protestantism? its no different then Catholics becoming protestant everyday, The 2nd Person of The Holy Trinity started The Catholic Church, and His Mother guides it, you must of forgot the 9 million pagans that converted to Catholicism in Mexico. Also the orthodox will convert whenever the Pope, consecrates Russia to The Immaculate Heart of Mary, just as she told, in Fatima in 1917.
MysticalCity 3 months ago
@MysticalCity I really have more important things to do then listen to your contempt and your hatred of Orthodox Christianity. It is better for me to just end this now so that I myself don't run the risk of spewing bitterness, spewing malice, spewing accusations, or cursing and condemning. I don't want to be like that. If you want to debate someone, try JohnTheHutDweller. I'm sure he will make a video response to you if to you write him a personal message. You can mention contraception and stuff
magnus56j 3 months ago
@magnus56j i already gave you proof via messages, i have sent e-mails,messages etc... to orthodox churches, and they never respond, i got blocked by greekorthodoxtv, for giving 1 quote from an early Church Father, i refuted everything they said, its really sad they even had to lie in some instances, if i were a orthodox, I would have a real problem with the recent compromises on morality in my church. This would move me to ask questions about what I really believe and why.
MysticalCity 3 months ago
@MysticalCity Most bishops of the Orthodox Church, as far as I know are against contraception. Most bishops and hierachs from the Orthodox Church praised Humanae Vitae. So, that means the Orthodox Church as a whole, does not condone contraception. I myself am against it. But, perhaps the reason people aren't answering you is because you may be using contempt. You are also shoving you beliefs down their throat, like you did with me. It's rude, it's so rude. JohnTheHutDweller I'm sure would answer
magnus56j 3 months ago
@magnus56j i apologize that it looks rude,but im not trying to be, i just don't understand how someone can say, they researched something and not be Catholic, anyway, its not up to the bishops, what people fail to realize is that the orthodox church approves it, along with divorce and remarriage, so they wouldn't even have to ask the bishops, they already know. and like i said i have argued and been blocked by high ranking orthodox people, it ain't gonna change with john.
MysticalCity 3 months ago
@MysticalCity "I don't understand how someone can say, the researched something and not be Catholic." I did research a lot. I went to Catholic school for 13 years. Don't you think it's kind of arrogant that you think you have all the answers? I'm no longer Catholic for a lot of reasons. I mean if you think it this is really a simple situation and a simple solution between the Orthodox and Catholic Churches then they would have united by now. Btw, JohnTheHutDweller made a video response to you.
magnus56j 3 months ago
@magnus56j i also went to a Catholic school, but did not learn nothing, you know how many atheists there are in Catholic schools? so someone is not doing there job right, also as for uniting, Our Blessed Mother told The Pope to consecrate Russia, but the Orthodox don't even want to talk about it, Blessed JP2 tried to bring them back, nothing happened. Even a Russian Orthodox high ranking official converted to Catholicism and wanted Russia to unite with Rome, they kicked him out.
MysticalCity 3 months ago
Do you know who the cardinal SSPV have stemmed from?
amazingmred 4 months ago
@amazingmred
Bishop Kelly, the superior general of the SSPV, was ordained a priest by Archbishop Lefebvre and consecrated a bishop by Bishop Mendez
OneTrueChurch 4 months ago
i have a question. do you follow the illuminati and their agendas? (google viligant citizen) the illuminati ideas would go really well with your views/truths on 'christian' religions. like the priests that did the molesting were not really priests and the church was infiltrated by the illuminati. i know that the illuminati agenda seems like a conspiracy theory but i do believe what they are trying to do in the world
november132 4 months ago
Since you became a sedevantist, have you ever spoken with the Dimond brothers?
rudge1982 5 months ago
I'm glad to see you back on YouTube.
OneCatholic 5 months ago
Great video. Thanks for standing up for the True Catholic Faith of all time. People need to study the Church from the time Christ instituted it to now to see who went wrong where. If they are honestly looking for the truth, they will see that the Church from the time of John XXIII forward is not the Catholic Church and that the See of Peter has been occupied by anti-popes since that time and still continues to be. The Bible mentions of false sheperds.
mikeandmona 5 months ago
who ordains these "bishops"?
xukeith33 5 months ago
More videos refuting the Catholic Church? Sorry Glenn, but you had your chance. As far as I can remember, you failed to even answer a simple question posted to you. Perhaps your computers broke down so that you may not spread your errors via the internet and thereby condemn yourself even more. Pray, mate, pray.
Shlomayo 5 months ago
Good to have you back. I am working on some video responses to your channel. Be ready!!!
Onetruthrgv 5 months ago
When did OneTrueChurch become a sedevanticist?
Lawborn2 5 months ago
@Lawborn2
about a year and a half ago...maybe more..
cunjoz 5 months ago
St. Pius X (TENTH) was a good Pope and if the church you ave been going to is named for him and true to the magisterium, then great. There's a sect that has taken his name and they are not in communion with the Catholic Church.
98sjci 6 months ago
Sedecavantist? No please don't do this! I used to recommend people to your channel but I can't do that anymore. As a Sedecavantist your no better than a Protestant! You are protesting the legitimacy of the Vicar of Christ. I hope you come back. You are such a loss to the Apologetic Community.
pmfrankcabrera 6 months ago 2
@pmfrankcabrera
No better than a protestant? really? It is your "popes" who are protestant since they pray with protestants and say that protestants are not heretics (see B16's book "Coworkers in truth")
OneTrueChurch 6 months ago
@OneTrueChurch Is it heresy to teach that there are imperfect connections between Catholics and Protestants? You talk like we don't even care whether they're Catholic or not, like we're not trying to share the true church with them and convert them. If you find an official document that says that, that's something I'd like to see.
BaronGrackle 6 months ago
@pmfrankcabrera The Vatican II Church has been protesting the Catholic Church for almost 50 years now.
But they seem to do it unknowingly. They seem to have convinced themselves that they aren't changing what has always been taught, but the reality is that they are. Today's apostasy is happening, not because anybody wants it to happen, but because God said it would happen in the latter times. Father, forgive the leaders of the Vatican II Church, for they do not seem to know what they do.
DanielJohn2300 6 months ago
I'm curious. These who ordained these priests?
Also, what do you think of the Tridentine mass that has been, and continues to be advocated by FSSP?
insidetrip101 6 months ago
@insidetrip101
The priests that I receive sacraments from were ordained by either Archbishop Lefebre or by Bishop Mendez both validly ordained bishops. Bishop Mendez consecrated Fr. Kelly a bishop, and just 3 or 4 years ago, Bishop Kelly consecrated Fr. Santay (now Bishop Santay).
OneTrueChurch 6 months ago
@OneTrueChurch
"The priests that I receive sacraments from were ordained by either Archbishop Lefebre or by Bishop Mendez both validly ordained bishops."
I'm still a bit confused. I understand that you say that the ordination ceremonies are invalid, but what I don't understand is exactly where a sedevancatist bishop got his ordination after John XXIII instituted change in the ordination services. Have they been ordained by Bishops of the Orthodox churches? Where is the continuity?
insidetrip101 6 months ago
@insidetrip101
Archbishop Leferbre was validly consecrated under the Traditional Rite of Consecration of bishop. He used the Traditional form to consecrate bishops and the Traditional rite of ordination to ordain priests. Same with Bishop Mendez
OneTrueChurch 6 months ago
@OneTrueChurch
I figured as much, but I'm wandering about more information. Under who's authority did this begin to happen, or is it similar to the succession of bishops in the Orthodox church? I'm just curious about who's authority the succession of these bishops is being carried on. Do you have any references you can point me towards? I'm sure it is too complicated to explain in these forsaken comment boxes.
insidetrip101 6 months ago
@insidetrip101
Oh wait, I think I misread your comment. So you are saying that Archbishop Leferbre was the successor in the line of bishops?
insidetrip101 6 months ago
@insidetrip101
As for the FSSP, they are part of the novus ordo. They say the novus ordo mass at least once a year and almost all FSSP churches alsohave a novus ordo mass. Also most of their "priests" and "Bishops" were ordained under the phony new rite of ordination/consecration. The FSSP is just an extension of the novus ordo to keep traditionally minded people trapped within the novus ordo church. Also the mass they say is the 1962 mass of antipope John XXIII
OneTrueChurch 6 months ago
@OneTrueChurch
do you consider the Pius XII a pope since he made all those changes in the Holy Week in '55?(although i'm a regular catholic with strong traditional aspirations i consider those changes to be unnecessary - i think we lost a great tradition)
what's wrong with pope John and his Missal? he only removed the third confiteor and ordered that the priest on a high Mass must not read the readings silently while they are sung by subdeacon and deacon...
cunjoz 5 months ago
Seriously, I've looked everywhere for a poster like that and cannot find one. I'm listening to William Alb. and Brother Diamond debate right now ... very interesting indeed. I am beginning to see more and more the Sedecavantist position, but am hesitant because of the strict view on ignorance and salvation. Will brings up good arguments from scripture, but it is obvious Mr. Diamond knows his councils and Church documents (as does Will). Interpretation is the key here, and they both differ
Doyler3 6 months ago
Hey, forgot to ask, since your a Sedecavantist now ... its been a while now eh? I was wondering if you could sell that poster you had in the background (the line of Popes from Peter...) Seeing (pun) that the chair may stay empty for a while, it may just become worthless to you... But hey, the gates of hell will never prevail against my Church, I'll take it and hang it with pride my friend! Glenn, wake up and stop with this Sedecav.. nonsense. Your better than this...
Doyler3 6 months ago
@Doyler3
as for the poster in the background, i put masking tape over the faces of John XXIII-B16 and wrote the words "sedevacante". Stop being sede? What alternative are you suggesting? Take part in the idolatry of the novus ordo antipopes?
OneTrueChurch 6 months ago
Its good to hear from ya again, Glenn!
corsec144 6 months ago
It's interesting to watch professing Roman Catholics dispute over who belongs to the 'true church', in light of how many of them always talk about how many Protestant denominations there are and how they are all different. It appears that Catholics should not even resort to these types of arguments since there are different denominations within Catholicism itself.
unicoestilo 6 months ago
@unicoestilo Your comparing apples and oranges with this argument. The Protestant Ref. was a whole other beast when compared to these traditionalist groups. The Catholic Church accepts the sacraments of SSPV, SSPX and other groups, thus any Catholic may attend Mass and other functions (esp. sacraments). The major problem comes with the question of papal authority... and as Glenn said, there is no major consensus... Protestants were excommunicated, while these groups are not...
Doyler3 6 months ago
@Doyler3
SSPX was excommunicated....although the excommunication is now lifted
cunjoz 5 months ago
@unicoestilo When Protestants disagree, none of them have a central authority to point toward, save for the Bible that they each interpret differently. When Catholics disagree, only one group can point to the existing magisterium.
BaronGrackle 6 months ago
@BaronGrackle
when there is an existing magisterium
OneTrueChurch 6 months ago
@OneTrueChurch Exactly. Because if there weren't existing Magisterium, then there would be no authority. Catholics would only have the Scriptures and Traditions, with various groups interpreting them differently. And it would be just as unicoestillo described--different denominations within Catholicism itself, with no real way of knowing which group has the "right" interpretation.
BaronGrackle 6 months ago
@BaronGrackle I do not totally agree with the second part of your comment. You said that "When Catholics disagree, only one group can point to the existing magesterium." While it is true that only one group can point to the existing magesterium, the other Catholic groups appeal to different authorities and still profess to be Catholics.
unicoestilo 6 months ago
@unicoestilo The Sedes appeal to bishops, but so did the Anglicans (who also consider themselves to be Catholic). Without an active pope, and without any agreement or organization on how to elect that pope, the sedes are ultimately missing a key component of the magisterium.
It would be different if they actually had a replacement magisterium in place. Then we'd have antipopes.
BaronGrackle 6 months ago
A Methodist might ask themselves if a Baptist is saved, and if so, what the value is to being a Methodist. Likewise, you must be certain that the "Society of St. Pius V" is indeed the one true church. If it isn't the one true Catholic Church, then why are you in it as opposed to the true one?
And if it is the true Church, then... well, only 11 U.S. states currently have access to full communion. It sure is convenient that you live in one of them.
BaronGrackle 6 months ago 2
*Whoops! Again, I meant 12, not 11.
BaronGrackle 6 months ago
@BaronGrackle
Ok, first of all the SSPV is not a "church" its an organization of priests who offer the Traditional Latin Mass and they have never claimed that they were the only way. members of my church also attend SSPX chapels and other traditional chapels. The SSPV is completely identical in beliefs (at least when it comes to defined dogma) to the other "mainline" traditionalist groups. Although they do have issues with certain individuals based on their ACTIONS (not beliefs)
OneTrueChurch 6 months ago
@OneTrueChurch Your denomination broke away from the Society of St. Pius X in 1983. There's clearly disagreement there. And apparently there's even contention among your own on whether the chair of St. Peter is vacant.
If the Society of St. Pius V disagrees with the Society of St. Pius X about a critical teaching, then whose office is it to set the matter straight? And how can you elect a new pontiff, if you cannot even agree on whether the chair is unoccupied?
Such confusion.
BaronGrackle 6 months ago
@BaronGrackle
There is no "contention" over the sede issue. the SSPV considers it to be a nondogmatic theological opinion so there can be disagreement. but again, all agree that B16 cannot be followed because of the things that he is promoting. The nine priests who became the SSPV were kicked out of the SSPX because they would not go along with Lefebre's negotiations with the new vatican. Is their confusion? Yes. Thats what happens when 99% of the church is in apostasy.
OneTrueChurch 6 months ago
@OneTrueChurch Except that the confusion isn't within the Church in communion with Rome. We have a set belief; we have a pontiff; and, whether you believe so or not, our dogma in keeping with the thousands of years of church history.
Your group has no pontiff. It has no means of choosing a pontiff, since its members cannot agree on whether a supposed heretic counts or not. And when disagreements do arise between your specific society and another, there will never be an arbiter.
BaronGrackle 6 months ago
If you do make more videos, it'd be interesting to hear your take on how few are within range of salvation. The Society of St. Pius V apparently only exists in the United States. And only in 12 states.
Does this mean that only people in those 12 states will have access to the "true" Catholic Church? Or is your creed identical to that of other traditionalist sects? And if so, why are your sects not united?
You find yourself having to answer the same questions that Protestants face. (cont'd)
BaronGrackle 6 months ago
What do the SSPV believe about the Chair of Peter? Is it empty or is Benedict XVI the rightful claimant? I've heard and read many differing views on this matter.
Doyler3 6 months ago
@Doyler3
The official position of the SSPV is that there is an objective doubt to the papacy of John XXIII, Paul VI, JP I, JP2, and B16 and most, if not all, of the priests would say that it is their opinion that the see is vacant but that they cannot say this with absolute certainty. However, they would say that we do have absolute certainty that the things that they promote are totally against Catholic teaching and therefore we most expose these errors and resist them
OneTrueChurch 6 months ago
@OneTrueChurch I think you should get in touch with others groups, such as the FSSP. These breakaway traditionalist groups are very gray on important matters. A lot of questions arise from this matter of Peter's Chair being vacant. What is your personal belief about the Chair good Sir? Also, what are the major teachings they oppose from the current Catholic diaspora of practice or belief? A video on that would be great one day, but a brief text would suffice here... Pax.
Doyler3 6 months ago
@OneTrueChurch are you saying that this society is not definite on whether or not the current Pope is the true Pope? are they willing to accept, if it was ever shown to them, that this pope is true reguardless of any heresy? if you understand what I mean
mgk22 6 months ago
Welcome back. It's good to hear that you have found a good traditional Catholic church.
DanielJohn2300 6 months ago
I wish I had a traditional Catholic church around where I live.
Mr1911guy 6 months ago
Wow, it's been awhile. Hope to see you around more.
Stitchman3875 6 months ago