Has no passion?!!! Have you heard the solos for Haunted or Downright Dominate? Have you heard the fucking solo for Knight Jumps Queen?!!! Or are you just fucking retarded? He is one of the very most passionate guitarists out there, he has more feeling than almost any guitarist you could ever name. Just because he CAN and DOES play fast does not mean he has not passion or soul. That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. You wanna tell me Buckethead has no passion too? Idiot.
@l00knup2u Same thing with Jason Becker and Marty Friedman. Fast and VERY technical, but it has probably the most emotion and soul and passion that could possibly be put forth into music.
Dave mustaine is not that great of a lead guitarist, he admitted it, but his music is very intricate. Jeff Waters is not that great of music background, but his leads are definitly better
He's Never a Dick! He's one of the greatest musicians I ever met! I met him last year and told him how great he was playing, and he didn't stop to thank me for the words I said to him.
jeff waters is not a dick. met him in person twice. both times he was more personable and down to earth than any metal legend ive ever met. now dave mustaine.... he's an egotistical prick. love his music...he's one of my heroes but my god....hes a fuckin diva.
@Willybird37 LOOL, WTFF dave mustaine isnt a dick LOL, iv met him more than enough times to know that hes a genuinly nice person and down to earth, i dont know where your getting theys werid ideas from xD
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Well they're not in perfect order, but you get the idea. Sorry but there is too much sweeping in today's genre of music to add Alexi. 1. Jeff Beck 2. Jimi Hendrix 3. Andy LaRoque 4. Randy Rhoads 5. Dimebag Darrel 6. Jeff Waters 7. Jake E. Lee 8. Yngwie 9. Steve Vai 10. Joe Walsh 11. Eric Clapton 12. Guitarist from Accept (god, what's his name...) 13. George Lynch
1. Dave Mustaine 2. Randy Rhoads 3. Jeff Waters 4. Chris Poland 5. Dimebag 6. Gus G. 7. Tracii Guns 8. Marty Friedman 9. Mille Petrozza 10. Alexi Laiho 11. Dennis Post 12. Mick Mars
What do you mean by that? Jeff Waters has no passion? I would never say that, hes passionate but of course its not easy to get passion across in the music he plays, But you can't say that with recods like Alice In Hell and Metal that hes not passionate about what he does, I would call him one of the guys who has stayed true to the music after all these years
dude, it is an excercise thats supposed to improve the coordination of your fingers. jeff waters already said that it sounds boring and its only useful to practice your coordination.
agree that he's not the best guitar player ever but try to play a megadeth song from the first 5 albums and sing at the same time. you'll realize how good he is
uhmm i really can not believe you just had the nerve to say that. there is a reason he is more popular than waters. they are both damn fine guitarists. wow.
well he prolly don't eaven know this great Swiss band exists (exsisted) cuz he only listed most commercial and overrated gutarists in the whole metal scene... not saying any of those are bad tho but there are TONS of bands which people never heard of because they never look outside the commercial stuff .... people are so fucking afraid of looking up obscyre stuff
But chris storey is in the same boring mood of all those "shredders" only overdoing the same sweeping and trem picked patterns. I´m not saying he´s a bad player though.
Roope is better than alexi )) alexi have speed?but roope much better play he play technical.Jeff playing better than Dave...And tou forget about Yngwie malmsteen or Kirk From metallica.
@iluvchopsticks Your wrong he also does leads ,when he was in metallica he was the lead guitar, not trying to bash you but dave has alot of talent than just rythm guitar .
@ByronW365 I agree with you, but IMO he is just another magalomaniac guy that thinks he is the guitar god and that tries to play all the solos when he clearly sucks at soloing.
i prefer dave but this guy is really good, dave didnt invent the spider chord i think he just made it popular likle how van halen made tapping really popular, neither invented it but both made it better.
Agreed entirely (and I think it's Spider Riff?) I'm just pointing out how hilarious it is that Dave thinks he 'invented' it and I wouldn't be surprised if he saw this and tried pulling the same crap lmao
Even though they're two different things, I can pretty much guarantee he'd say something along the lines of 'he's using the technique I invented' or something lol
Especially considering how much respect Dave shows whenever Jeff Waters is involved, also considering he asked Jeff 2-3 times to be the lead guitarist for Megadeth.
Plus Dave is just blunt, he's not a dick lol. And he knows and admits when a guitarist is better at playing guitar then him.
I agree, but only because this is Jeff we're talking about.
Dave does seem to claim he invented the spider riff though, when people have been using that 'technique' for ages, all he really did was slap a name on it and claim that he invented it. Pretty ridiculous.
But yeah, Jeff and Dave are pretty close, so I don't see him saying anything.
but I still think that if this were anyone else, he'd probably say something stupid ahah
You're allowed to have your own opinion on who's better (though I think most of the people here would disagree with you unless they're Mustaine fanboys) but how do you figure he invented the Spider Chord?
You do know what the 'spider chord' is, right?
It's simply an alternate way to play two different chords. Want to know a little secret? People have been doing that for AGES, long before Mustaine. Hell it's almost as bad as people who think Van Halen invented tapping
First of all, I did not say he invented the Spiderwalk. Secondly, he did not invent the Spiderchord either.
The 'Spiderchord' is something people have been doing for decades. Dave did not invent it. It's simply an easier way to alternate between chords, the same method which people have been using for ages. All Dave did was throw a name on it.
In other words, Dave took credit for one thing he didn't invent, I can see him doing it again.
Actually, yes, that's EXACTLY what you said. Can you not read your message? It implies that you think he invented it.
Also, with your logic no one invented anything as far as the guitar goes. It was done and someone is the first to make it popular. Like Yngwie and sweep picking in the early 80's. No one really did that shit. Though he didn't INVENT, he INNOVATED it. Do you get what I am saying? It's hard to explaing.
Your post seems well structured, don't get me wrong, however you seem to completely lack an understanding of humor. I was joking about how Dave has a habit of taking credit that he hasn't earned, and how despite the differences I could see him saying something stupid about the Spiderwalk being his own creation because he'd probably claim it's a similar concept to the spiderchord
I do understand what you're saying, and I agree as far as innovation goes, but what I'm saying here is that Mustaine did not innovate, improve upon, or invent what he calls the 'spiderchord'
It is a common rule among musicians to play with as little hand movement as possible (in terms of transitions from notes, lifting the fingers as little as possible, and not having to slide around more than you have to) and (continued again, screw Youtube's commenting limits..)
and because of this rule Musicians have been doing what Mustaine calls the 'spiderchord' for ages. It's not a technique, it is common sense. Well, that's not fair, it IS a technique, but the point is it is the furthest thing from a new or innovative technique.
To claim you invented it like Mustaine does is absolutely absurd, he simply slapped a name on it and took the credit on a technique that's been used extensively for ages.
Well, he does actually use that concept in songs, and by all means he was the first to actually do that. So in my eyes, and alot of others' eyes, he invented it.
And thank you. :)
I love my schecter. But I used to have another account with all my good videos on it and it got deleted due to the shittiest copywrite you will have EVER heard of.
I still wouldn't call that inventing though. It's like..lets put it in a different perspective
Alternate picking. It's a technique to make things easier, right? Another technique which has been used for as long as picks have existed to accompany a guitar. Did the modern musicians who use alternate picking invent it? Of course not, they gained it from either common sense, or learning from others. Same applies to Dave.
and I don't blame you, I have a Schecter to and she's my pride and joy :)
I know, I think I actually pointed that out earlier, but that could have been another video (on the same topic, though)
Though if I'm not mistaken, with EVH it was the fans who assumed he invented tapping, not him who claimed it. (but I could be wrong)
Dave Mustaine shamelessly openly claims to have invented the 'spiderchord' every opportunity he gets, which I personally find several times more pathetic
Thanks for clearing that up, it's always nice to learn little tidbits like this.
The thing is I can meet half way with EVH, because whether he invented it or not, he was one of the very first people to use it in Rock in the context he did. Mustaine took a technique that has been used in just about every genre and called it his own.
Obviously people have been tapping before Van Halen, but it was relatively new to rock. Same cannot be said about Spiderchords
By the way, I'm not saying it's any more right for Van Halen to take the credit on something that's been around long before he started doing it. I'm just saying that with tapping I can see it from both perspectives, but Dave wasn't even innovative. He took common sense and called it his own invention. I think that's pretty arrogant, personally
Well I'm glad you can agree without allowing yourself to have a biased opinion, then.
I think Dave is a phenomenal guitarist, and also an influence of mine musically. I just think he's a prick on a personal level. :P
There are people who ignore his obvious skill because he's a prick, and people who will never admit he's a dick because they're fans of his skill. I personally don't ever wish to be biased like that, and I'm glad you see things the same way. (Peterson is majorly underrated btw!)
As for Peterson, he's not only one of the tightest rhythm players I've heard (which he does get a lot of credit for) but he has some really nice, tasty and unique leads. Sure, he's no Skolnick, but he never really seems to get the respect he deserves because he's ALWAYS being compared to Alex.
I trust you've heard Peterson's side project Dragonlord? They're the perfect band to showcase what Eric's truly capable of. Phenomenal player!
Ah, well they're black metal. Not sure if you're into Black Metal, but they mix elements of Thrash and Black Metal to create a pretty unique sound.
I'm not a fan of Black Metal personally, with some exceptions, but Dragonlord are fantastic
I'd recommend Until The End (which you can see the video for here on Youtube :P), Unholyvoid, Judgement Failed, and Born to Darkness. For starters anyway. :P
Lemme know if you like 'em, I love turning people onto new bands, especially if they like them :P
yeah, have you heard their great cover of "emerald" by thin lizzy? Its awesome, honestly i think peterson should do more clean singing after hearing that!
He's just too wrapped up in this whole act of trying to prove he's the best out of everyone. I'm not saying Dave doesn't have any admirable traits, he can be a really nice guy, but sometimes he needs to learn to shut his mouth and show his fans some respect.
He's always insulting his fans over trivial (sometimes not so trivial things) and getting into these constant feuds. He needs to learn to smarten up.
Let us not forget when he tossed his guitar across the stage, too..
No way man, Jeff is awesome. I would never call him a dick, he's one of the nicest, funniest musicians in metal.
I do agree with everything you said though, except for Faggot (which just seems a little uncalled for) and sucks at guitar. Say what you will about Dave, he is a douchebag and deserves no respect on a human level. But he's a phenomenal guitarist (even if his compositional skills have seriously gone downhill *cough*Endgame*cough*)
He's no Jeff Waters though, but then again, who is?
@PhiyukYu hes canadian, were not dicks, the only dick to come out of canada is beiber, and i know him personally so i can say that. NOT JEFF, i meant beiber
@PhiyukYu He don't seem like a dick to me everything I've seen him in he's got a cool attitude, and how could he be a dick he's Canadian and Canadian's don't know how to be dicks lol
Thanks, to Jeff, for putting this stuff out. Very cool. It's great to see an awesome guitarist, like Jeff, demoing stuff that he can't play smoothly. You can learn a lot from that.
training this now......... hard as fuck!!!
kjn5991 3 weeks ago
Jeff=guitar god
HyProGlo13 1 month ago
Has no passion?!!! Have you heard the solos for Haunted or Downright Dominate? Have you heard the fucking solo for Knight Jumps Queen?!!! Or are you just fucking retarded? He is one of the very most passionate guitarists out there, he has more feeling than almost any guitarist you could ever name. Just because he CAN and DOES play fast does not mean he has not passion or soul. That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. You wanna tell me Buckethead has no passion too? Idiot.
l00knup2u 3 months ago
@l00knup2u Same thing with Jason Becker and Marty Friedman. Fast and VERY technical, but it has probably the most emotion and soul and passion that could possibly be put forth into music.
Kizales 3 months ago
@13Rover13 totally true.
vibonacci 6 months ago
major scale in sixths
iasenzaniro768 6 months ago
is he wearing an independant trucks t-shirt? does any1 knw if he skates thn
ArseLoad0fMetal666 7 months ago
I finger pick this
Jlemay117 7 months ago
'Betcha can't play this with Jeff waters'
271189a 7 months ago
Even Jeff Loomis would have trouble with this.
jfkdjfd 7 months ago
Talk about a fucking Betcha Can't Play This..
sixxthunderbird 8 months ago 10
this is like spider chord's brother, spider walk, they both look like spiders when played
thojyout23 8 months ago
I'm having a hard time doing this lick at diddleh-diddleh-dideleh speed
Painkiller86 10 months ago
hehehe maaan if you can't do it...what chance have WE got? lol =)
FDXPERIENCE 10 months ago
need tabs, can't download that file
Sociopathzz 10 months ago
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i can do it better than him...
jnsebas94 10 months ago
...No i cant :c
jnsebas94 10 months ago
Where the fuck is Chuck Schuldiner, he should be on the list
ThrashLunatic 1 year ago 8
This is alot like a buckethead lick.
This guy seems really really down to earth, quality man.
Don't know much about his music though.
Harrysound 1 year ago
Dave mustaine is not that great of a lead guitarist, he admitted it, but his music is very intricate. Jeff Waters is not that great of music background, but his leads are definitly better
arangel72 1 year ago
@arangel72 Been a fan of megadeth for years though the last 10 have been terrible for them.
I never, even at the height of my pasion for them thought much of any of their solos.
Harrysound 1 year ago
@arangel72 where did he admit it ?
yootesa1515 10 months ago
Yingwie Malmsteen is a dick, Jeff isn't ,.. JEFF OWNS!!
Macsk8ing 1 year ago
He's Never a Dick! He's one of the greatest musicians I ever met! I met him last year and told him how great he was playing, and he didn't stop to thank me for the words I said to him.
turboneger 1 year ago
jeff waters is not a dick. met him in person twice. both times he was more personable and down to earth than any metal legend ive ever met. now dave mustaine.... he's an egotistical prick. love his music...he's one of my heroes but my god....hes a fuckin diva.
Willybird37 1 year ago 3
@Willybird37 LOOL, WTFF dave mustaine isnt a dick LOL, iv met him more than enough times to know that hes a genuinly nice person and down to earth, i dont know where your getting theys werid ideas from xD
cometothepartay 11 months ago
LINK FAIL
gnrcr 1 year ago
It is quite simple theorically, is just a normal major scale played by sixths.
Vechicin 1 year ago
is he still using ran guitars?
Stevo4411 1 year ago
tabs for this?
kjn5991 1 year ago
jeff is the best thing to come outta canada. cept their weed
nvhearld 1 year ago
hes a good teacher direct simple and down to earth
jakeisdead 1 year ago 2
That would be awesome in a riff, just to throw in at the end or something really quick. Or something like it.
mgdth502 1 year ago
Jeff is fucking hilarious
NiklausMetal 1 year ago
jhahjahjajhajhajhajhajhahjahjaj ese wey se esta burland0 de mustaine hjahjahjajhajhajh l = ke spider ch0rd y esas mierdas ¡¡ke se saka jhahjahjahjahjahjajha
ojospunk 1 year ago
TheBaconmeister 1 year ago
@megadeathfans96 i like your list except for i think IMO 1.Dave Mustaine 2.Randy Rhoads 3.Dime 4.Alexi 5.waters
MrDarkSanity 1 year ago
This dude is the man it's a shame more bands don't have awesome dudes like him. Jeff waters I bow to you.
ochawkbeard 1 year ago
anyboy knows anything about michael romeo?
omg...
3KerO3 1 year ago
1-Dimebag Darrell
2-Zakk Wilde
3-Mark Morton
4-Angus Young
5-Dave Murray,Janick gers,Adrian Smith
6-Eddie Van Halen
7-Billy Gibons
8-James Heatfield
loic666 1 year ago
@loic666 And where's jeff?
Davidleo92 1 year ago
@loic666 You're a fucking dumbass... "I'm going to choose the most popular metal guitarists for my personal and unique list!"
NiklausMetal 1 year ago
steve morse style
kiball09 1 year ago
1.dave mustaine
2.jason becker
3.marty friedman
4.jeff waters
5.dimebag darrell
6.alexi lahio
7.al pitrelli.
8.rusty cooley
9.paul gilbert
10.yngwie malmsteen.
kytrev27 1 year ago
sixxdog 1 year ago
many people think that metal stars are satanic a disrespectful to people(well some)
but majority arnet and are really cool people and are generous to others and a content of what they have.
now a days people just want what they want and think
breakfastMcgull 1 year ago
That is some wicked guitar skill.
YankHoe 1 year ago
great guitar player
chosen1one1986 1 year ago
cool vid, good excercise, too. Thanks for putting the link for the TAB on here too, dude. Nice one :)
TheJayMadd1 1 year ago
"This is for the Guitar players out there, obviously, so I do it REALLY slow first"
XD
somehow it sounds like he would bash us XD
Gotta love Jeff
000Mariat000 1 year ago
I have it indented in my brain but I can't do it as nearly fast as him
rollthelosingdice 1 year ago
is there tabs for this?
MasteroPuppetz 1 year ago
tabs are in the description
englundisgod 1 year ago
if you dont have a rar file opener thing i have it in text form too
englundisgod 1 year ago
*couch* Steve Vai
FallenAngelsU 1 year ago
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and people really listen to this shit? like listening to the guy that can talk 50 words a second. who gives a fuck. no passion
sizzlechooch 1 year ago
What do you mean by that? Jeff Waters has no passion? I would never say that, hes passionate but of course its not easy to get passion across in the music he plays, But you can't say that with recods like Alice In Hell and Metal that hes not passionate about what he does, I would call him one of the guys who has stayed true to the music after all these years
jbabcock5630 1 year ago 16
dude, it is an excercise thats supposed to improve the coordination of your fingers. jeff waters already said that it sounds boring and its only useful to practice your coordination.
HyperJN 1 year ago
The purpose of this piece is to challenge yourself technically, it's an exercise...not a song.
HurricaneTBag 1 year ago 5
If he's not doing right this exercise, and he is god in his solos, how nice he'll play if he do it right?
86267571272 1 year ago
That's a very punishing exercise.
DeadpoolX9 1 year ago 4
Jeffs new hair is awesome. Better than too long and way better than the short hair.
But that's not really important.
He's not playing the Spiderwalk like it's ment to be. As he says, he's not able to do it at the moment cause it's still too hard for him.
And that's great !
Everyone needs to practice. That's what he's showhing here and keeps me believing that i shouldn't throw my guitar against the wall.
And i'm wooooooooorse than Jeff Waters and many others.
So...thx Jeff :)
Rock on.
mantelmann13 1 year ago 4
@mantelmann13
better than his old bowl cut fringe LOL
SoundOfAShark 1 year ago
my dreams is to see Jeff Waters in Megadeth
TheMutator 1 year ago
His band Annihilator is plenty good enough, better than Megadeth IMO.
HurricaneTBag 1 year ago
hold the fucking camera still for a goddamn minute!
gavranarh 2 years ago 13
is that his signature guitar or a standard black Gibson Flying V?
gunsproof 2 years ago
Ran custom made signature guitar
Skater1893 2 years ago
I agree but is look like a Gibson
i know he's playing his own sign. guitar of Ran
gunsproof 2 years ago
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Dave mustaine is not a good guitar player Jeff and Marty are in leagues of their own
jpunch 2 years ago
agree that he's not the best guitar player ever but try to play a megadeth song from the first 5 albums and sing at the same time. you'll realize how good he is
TheThrashingDeath 2 years ago 6
uhmm i really can not believe you just had the nerve to say that. there is a reason he is more popular than waters. they are both damn fine guitarists. wow.
superdorko 2 years ago 4
Are you stupid?
FFHAngel0fDeth 2 years ago 3
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Are you still suckin on cock?
jpunch 2 years ago
Yeah I am. Are you still pussy lipping it?
FFHAngel0fDeth 2 years ago
you're right. DM is way over-rated
AbstractMan23 2 years ago
@jpunch i think Mustaine is a great guitar player but Jeff and Marty are in leagues of their own
13Rover13 6 months ago
I like it how Jeff is all like "Yeah I Can't do it" after he does it. Modest guy. He knows how good he is.
EclipseMetal08 2 years ago
Dave is an Okay guitarist.
Chris B and Jeff W are much better though.
ScreamxBloodyxGore 2 years ago 2
okay?man he paved the way for thrash riffs..ask anybody.Hetfield,King,Ian,Waters,Skolnick,Kisser even Holt all admit it.
powerbomber21 2 years ago 2
dave mustaine
jeff waters
eddie van halen
alexi laiho
randy rhoads
dimebag darrell
is a fucking beast
megadethfans96 2 years ago 97
@megadethfans96 what about tommy t baron from coroner? imo he a fucking shit hot guitarst
glasgowdmon 2 years ago 4
well he prolly don't eaven know this great Swiss band exists (exsisted) cuz he only listed most commercial and overrated gutarists in the whole metal scene... not saying any of those are bad tho but there are TONS of bands which people never heard of because they never look outside the commercial stuff .... people are so fucking afraid of looking up obscyre stuff
Exumer1986 2 years ago 2
@glasgowdmon
Coroner!!!!
REBORN THROUGH HATE!
unc666 1 year ago
take out that fruitcake alexi laiho and throw in Jari Maenpaa. Ty.
DZSCaptain 2 years ago 4
@DZSCaptain Agreed, Jari Maenpaa is another godly guitarist who is completely under rated.
Alchohollica 1 year ago 2
ahaha are you serious? check out chris storey : watch?v=IHMzsHhzalo
he destroys all those in your list.
Radicz0r 2 years ago
But chris storey is in the same boring mood of all those "shredders" only overdoing the same sweeping and trem picked patterns. I´m not saying he´s a bad player though.
nothinghappens1 2 years ago 2
@megadethfans96 you forgot Gary Holt
davemurrayrocks 1 year ago 2
@megadethfans96
Roope is better than alexi )) alexi have speed?but roope much better play he play technical.Jeff playing better than Dave...And tou forget about Yngwie malmsteen or Kirk From metallica.
JoeyWayne93 1 year ago
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JoeyWayne93 1 year ago
@megadethfans96 Take away Alexi Laiho for a start and replace him with Phil Demmel
SpicyDragoon 1 year ago
@megadethfans96 laiho should step aside
IMBACHABRI 1 year ago
@megadethfans96 what about kirk hammit
the2brosstudios 1 year ago
@the2brosstudios just shut the fuck up
galatonim 1 year ago
@the2brosstudios kirk hammet* sucks ass
dumapies 1 year ago
@megadethfans96 Nice list man! :D Dimebag, Jeff and laiho is the shit! Randy too, eddie to. Oh fuck it there are so many :P Jeff beck is nice ;)
Metalord874 1 year ago
@megadethfans96 Actually dave mustaine is only a rythym guitarrist, the real megadeth guitarrists are marty friedman and chris broderick
iluvchopsticks 1 year ago
@iluvchopsticks Your wrong he also does leads ,when he was in metallica he was the lead guitar, not trying to bash you but dave has alot of talent than just rythm guitar .
ByronW365 1 year ago
@ByronW365 I agree with you, but IMO he is just another magalomaniac guy that thinks he is the guitar god and that tries to play all the solos when he clearly sucks at soloing.
iluvchopsticks 1 year ago
@iluvchopsticks That attitude comes from being sucessful , money changes people i'm sure he is a complete douche, but i like his music ...
ByronW365 1 year ago
@megadethfans96 Hey Wheres Chuck Schuldiner and Andy LaRocque.
migthefig 10 months ago
@megadethfans96 Laiho is shyte but the rest is great
cliffthelightning 9 months ago
@megadethfans96 tey azagthoth
PunkAsPhuck96 9 months ago
@megadethfans96 Alexi laiho sux man..his solos are sloppy because of his drinking...Roope is way better than him
bobiee36 7 months ago
He's a really honest player, he'll always joke when he fucks up. Doesn't seem pretentious like some other players.
Kharnivore2099 2 years ago
this tecnique was use by progressive or tecnique metal band
megadethfans96 2 years ago
Jeff Waters rules, he's by far my favorite guitarist!
lkkdlvc 2 years ago 6
thanks for putting the tabs on. it's kinda confusing to look at, when jeff is playing it.
jeff is the man!
BurNiNgBAssisT86 2 years ago
wtf?! thats weird!
17Greco17 2 years ago
wonderfull, i have do update my guitar pro version -.-
Wolfenstahl 2 years ago
i prefer dave but this guy is really good, dave didnt invent the spider chord i think he just made it popular likle how van halen made tapping really popular, neither invented it but both made it better.
PowerMetalsHero 2 years ago
Now I'm just waiting for Dave to try and yell at Jeff saying "I INVENTED THAT" lmao
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago 3
Spiderwalk>Spiderchord (or spiderriff I forget what it's called)
RedShogun13 2 years ago
Agreed entirely (and I think it's Spider Riff?) I'm just pointing out how hilarious it is that Dave thinks he 'invented' it and I wouldn't be surprised if he saw this and tried pulling the same crap lmao
Even though they're two different things, I can pretty much guarantee he'd say something along the lines of 'he's using the technique I invented' or something lol
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
Eh I don;t think Dave would say that.
Especially considering how much respect Dave shows whenever Jeff Waters is involved, also considering he asked Jeff 2-3 times to be the lead guitarist for Megadeth.
Plus Dave is just blunt, he's not a dick lol. And he knows and admits when a guitarist is better at playing guitar then him.
RedShogun13 2 years ago
I agree, but only because this is Jeff we're talking about.
Dave does seem to claim he invented the spider riff though, when people have been using that 'technique' for ages, all he really did was slap a name on it and claim that he invented it. Pretty ridiculous.
But yeah, Jeff and Dave are pretty close, so I don't see him saying anything.
but I still think that if this were anyone else, he'd probably say something stupid ahah
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
Wait, so Dave DIDN'T invent the spider riff!?
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
No, Dave Mustaine made the spider chord.
We know Dave Mustaine > Jeff Waters
st1dinca 2 years ago
Yeah we all know Dave made the spider chord
How do you figure Dave is better than Jeff?
No really, I really can't think of many things. Jeff imo is just an all around better guitarist.
RedShogun13 2 years ago
You're kidding me, right?
You're allowed to have your own opinion on who's better (though I think most of the people here would disagree with you unless they're Mustaine fanboys) but how do you figure he invented the Spider Chord?
You do know what the 'spider chord' is, right?
It's simply an alternate way to play two different chords. Want to know a little secret? People have been doing that for AGES, long before Mustaine. Hell it's almost as bad as people who think Van Halen invented tapping
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
Dave invented the spiderCHORD.... Not the walk....
ThrashDeth17 2 years ago 2
First of all, I did not say he invented the Spiderwalk. Secondly, he did not invent the Spiderchord either.
The 'Spiderchord' is something people have been doing for decades. Dave did not invent it. It's simply an easier way to alternate between chords, the same method which people have been using for ages. All Dave did was throw a name on it.
In other words, Dave took credit for one thing he didn't invent, I can see him doing it again.
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
Actually, yes, that's EXACTLY what you said. Can you not read your message? It implies that you think he invented it.
Also, with your logic no one invented anything as far as the guitar goes. It was done and someone is the first to make it popular. Like Yngwie and sweep picking in the early 80's. No one really did that shit. Though he didn't INVENT, he INNOVATED it. Do you get what I am saying? It's hard to explaing.
ThrashDeth17 2 years ago 3
Is English not your first language?
Your post seems well structured, don't get me wrong, however you seem to completely lack an understanding of humor. I was joking about how Dave has a habit of taking credit that he hasn't earned, and how despite the differences I could see him saying something stupid about the Spiderwalk being his own creation because he'd probably claim it's a similar concept to the spiderchord
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ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
I do understand what you're saying, and I agree as far as innovation goes, but what I'm saying here is that Mustaine did not innovate, improve upon, or invent what he calls the 'spiderchord'
It is a common rule among musicians to play with as little hand movement as possible (in terms of transitions from notes, lifting the fingers as little as possible, and not having to slide around more than you have to) and (continued again, screw Youtube's commenting limits..)
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
and because of this rule Musicians have been doing what Mustaine calls the 'spiderchord' for ages. It's not a technique, it is common sense. Well, that's not fair, it IS a technique, but the point is it is the furthest thing from a new or innovative technique.
To claim you invented it like Mustaine does is absolutely absurd, he simply slapped a name on it and took the credit on a technique that's been used extensively for ages.
btw, saw your vid, Nice Schecter.
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
Well, he does actually use that concept in songs, and by all means he was the first to actually do that. So in my eyes, and alot of others' eyes, he invented it.
And thank you. :)
I love my schecter. But I used to have another account with all my good videos on it and it got deleted due to the shittiest copywrite you will have EVER heard of.
ThrashDeth17 2 years ago
I still wouldn't call that inventing though. It's like..lets put it in a different perspective
Alternate picking. It's a technique to make things easier, right? Another technique which has been used for as long as picks have existed to accompany a guitar. Did the modern musicians who use alternate picking invent it? Of course not, they gained it from either common sense, or learning from others. Same applies to Dave.
and I don't blame you, I have a Schecter to and she's my pride and joy :)
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
eeh, evh did the same thing w/ tappin man.
oompaloompaman5 2 years ago
I know, I think I actually pointed that out earlier, but that could have been another video (on the same topic, though)
Though if I'm not mistaken, with EVH it was the fans who assumed he invented tapping, not him who claimed it. (but I could be wrong)
Dave Mustaine shamelessly openly claims to have invented the 'spiderchord' every opportunity he gets, which I personally find several times more pathetic
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
Atcually (with EVH) it depends on when he was interviewed. Some interviews he says he invented it, some he says he didnt...its kind of confusing.
oompaloompaman5 2 years ago
Oh, I didn't know that
Thanks for clearing that up, it's always nice to learn little tidbits like this.
The thing is I can meet half way with EVH, because whether he invented it or not, he was one of the very first people to use it in Rock in the context he did. Mustaine took a technique that has been used in just about every genre and called it his own.
Obviously people have been tapping before Van Halen, but it was relatively new to rock. Same cannot be said about Spiderchords
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
By the way, I'm not saying it's any more right for Van Halen to take the credit on something that's been around long before he started doing it. I'm just saying that with tapping I can see it from both perspectives, but Dave wasn't even innovative. He took common sense and called it his own invention. I think that's pretty arrogant, personally
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
Oh yeah (even though Dave, Jeff, Eric Peterson and James Hetfield are my main infulences) I definitley agree thats pretty arrogant.
oompaloompaman5 2 years ago
Well I'm glad you can agree without allowing yourself to have a biased opinion, then.
I think Dave is a phenomenal guitarist, and also an influence of mine musically. I just think he's a prick on a personal level. :P
There are people who ignore his obvious skill because he's a prick, and people who will never admit he's a dick because they're fans of his skill. I personally don't ever wish to be biased like that, and I'm glad you see things the same way. (Peterson is majorly underrated btw!)
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
Yeah hes definitley a prick lol And Peterson IS way underrated.
oompaloompaman5 2 years ago
For sure.
As for Peterson, he's not only one of the tightest rhythm players I've heard (which he does get a lot of credit for) but he has some really nice, tasty and unique leads. Sure, he's no Skolnick, but he never really seems to get the respect he deserves because he's ALWAYS being compared to Alex.
I trust you've heard Peterson's side project Dragonlord? They're the perfect band to showcase what Eric's truly capable of. Phenomenal player!
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
nah, ill check em out tho, could you tell me what some of their better songs are?
oompaloompaman5 2 years ago
Ah, well they're black metal. Not sure if you're into Black Metal, but they mix elements of Thrash and Black Metal to create a pretty unique sound.
I'm not a fan of Black Metal personally, with some exceptions, but Dragonlord are fantastic
I'd recommend Until The End (which you can see the video for here on Youtube :P), Unholyvoid, Judgement Failed, and Born to Darkness. For starters anyway. :P
Lemme know if you like 'em, I love turning people onto new bands, especially if they like them :P
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
yeah bro i love em!!!! check out my faves lol. yeah i like some black metal...mostly emporer.
oompaloompaman5 2 years ago
Emperor are awesome, but shit dude I Haven't heard them in ages!
Though I LOVE their cover of A Fine Day To Die by Bathory (who is another one of my favorite Black Metal bands)
I also love Goatwhore
As you can tell, I'm not a fan of traditional black metal, more the stuff that strays from the norm :P
I love Peterson's growls in Dragonlord, because they're so unique by Black Metal standards
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
yeah, have you heard their great cover of "emerald" by thin lizzy? Its awesome, honestly i think peterson should do more clean singing after hearing that!
oompaloompaman5 2 years ago
Yeah, I think so
They have a new album coming out in December, too. :)
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
how is he a dick? he seems like a nice guy
PhiyukYu 2 years ago 83
How is Dave a dick?
He's just too wrapped up in this whole act of trying to prove he's the best out of everyone. I'm not saying Dave doesn't have any admirable traits, he can be a really nice guy, but sometimes he needs to learn to shut his mouth and show his fans some respect.
He's always insulting his fans over trivial (sometimes not so trivial things) and getting into these constant feuds. He needs to learn to smarten up.
Let us not forget when he tossed his guitar across the stage, too..
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
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I thought you were talking about jeff. Then yes, dave is complete tool faggot sellout asshole who sucks at guitar
PhiyukYu 2 years ago
No way man, Jeff is awesome. I would never call him a dick, he's one of the nicest, funniest musicians in metal.
I do agree with everything you said though, except for Faggot (which just seems a little uncalled for) and sucks at guitar. Say what you will about Dave, he is a douchebag and deserves no respect on a human level. But he's a phenomenal guitarist (even if his compositional skills have seriously gone downhill *cough*Endgame*cough*)
He's no Jeff Waters though, but then again, who is?
ShowNoMercy502 2 years ago
nobody is perfect!!!!
i thing he got problem he dont belive to his self and he is trying to prove he is the best!!!!
but he is sure in the top5 so he deserves it!!!!!
guido94ga 2 years ago
@PhiyukYu hes canadian, were not dicks, the only dick to come out of canada is beiber, and i know him personally so i can say that.
crazylocoguitar 1 year ago
@PhiyukYu hes canadian, were not dicks, the only dick to come out of canada is beiber, and i know him personally so i can say that. NOT JEFF, i meant beiber
crazylocoguitar 1 year ago
@PhiyukYu Exactly, seems a genuine guy and human!
jemdave13 1 year ago
@PhiyukYu He don't seem like a dick to me everything I've seen him in he's got a cool attitude, and how could he be a dick he's Canadian and Canadian's don't know how to be dicks lol
bdoginit01 1 year ago 2
Lol. I love how when he messes up he hardly messes up at all and hes like -_- I cant play it. He so fucking good!!
xXxConnorCoxXx 2 years ago
wow if he cant play it that great, it must be ridiculously hard
trivium646 2 years ago
Thanks, to Jeff, for putting this stuff out. Very cool. It's great to see an awesome guitarist, like Jeff, demoing stuff that he can't play smoothly. You can learn a lot from that.
juddrizzo 2 years ago
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why a gibson they so boring looking and they really dont awfer things like a trem or 24 frets or a longer scale
cobraopts7 2 years ago
so jeff has the spiderwalk and dave mustaine has the spider chord . i wonder whats next
666jony666 2 years ago 5
spider picking XD
Megadeth256 2 years ago 4
lol
666jony666 2 years ago
the spiderweb. xD
MegaDeth13itch 2 years ago 2
SPIDER SWEEPS! ;D
Lol.
maidenmadness1 2 years ago 3
fuck sounds hard lol
666jony666 2 years ago 2
Idk why but I lol'd hardest at Spider sweeps lol.
RedShogun13 2 years ago
Hahaha XD
maidenmadness1 2 years ago
A spider walking chord.
Metal1ap 2 years ago
Spider harmonic lol
RedShogun13 2 years ago
yea, he's the man
can't wait the see 'em live
bassaholicpong 2 years ago
At first glance it looks like he's downpicking all of that, is he?
CraigBarduk 2 years ago
nope
wilhem 2 years ago
Alternate
666wrathofheaven666 2 years ago
jeff waters is the man, ive talked to him online thru email and his forums and he is honestly a really good guy and my fav guitarist.
rasierdotcom 2 years ago
can you give me his email address, cuz i need words of wisdom from him.
Metal1ap 2 years ago
Jeff is the MAN!
The coolest guy!
SO down on earth!
Guitar legend!
Moublis 2 years ago 6
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jeff never ceazes to amaze me... he's so awesome yet so humble.
MParseface38 2 years ago 2
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MParseface38 2 years ago
i think Jeff has to prove nothing after all these years of playing.this riff is damn so difficult though...
xrhstosc4 2 years ago
Tabs are now reupped, sorry to keep you waiting.
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