people who call locke a bad man, are way beyond understanding that he could have easily killed someone one by one, which could have been the reason they formed a cult conspiracy called "the others" the man was broken , but he was never really capable of breaking rules of sanity , he knew when he could walk it was destiny and as he said to jack "crazy people dont know they are going crazy they think they are getting saner" locke had a beginning and ending for a purpose for a reason.
Seems like I catch something new every time I go through Lost, every time I think they didn't answer something, I rewatch an episode in a new light and find an answer (well, most of the time). Great writing.
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I watched Hearts and Minds again, and noticed even more connections with this scene and the opening of "The Incident." "Mind if I join you?" is verbatim in both. They are talking about food in both. One explains to the other that patience is a virtue, "...everything else is just progress" ....Plus reference to humans being "bad"...."the most dangerous predator of all."
listen to the last thing John says about man being the world's most dangerous predator. Then listen to what the MiB says about how man is evil and corruptable.
I'm sick and tired of people saying that Locke is the nemesis, it's the Man In Black, not Locke, and as Jack said in the finale, The Man In Black is a disgrace to John Locke's memory by wearing his face, so stop calling Locke evil, or at least call him FLocke gawd dammit!!!!!!
no, I mean black :-P since Locke was sitting there first, like Jacob looking over the ocean. And Jack coming there as the second person... like the man in black.
And beside, you forget one thing. John was a believer. At that point, John was not evil. Just like the man in black wasn't always evil he either.
Black/darkness doesn't always mean bad/evil. You know it was the light that made the man in black become evil? So the light is actually a bad thing. Jacob isn't pure in any way
the 'man in black' is not a bad person, he has been prisoned and trapped on this island for his whole life and he just wants to leave because he see's no point in staying because theres no point protecting it. But he will do whatever he has to do to leave the island, even if it means killing people. Nice find btw =), jack is the new jacob and locke is the man in black so it just shows the writers had this planned from the start
@mecavity They said on the special before the finale that they weren't sure on pretty much anything when the show was starting out. So I'm pretty sure.
If people think MiB is bad.. everyone has their flaws: Just because MiB kills people and Jacob does not, it doesn't mean one is good/bad or wrong/right. This can be reflected with Jack/Locke: Locke killed Naomi and blew up the sub but in the end he did it for the best interest of everyone. Jack fixes people but eventually couldn't be bothered helping a dying Ben in the 1970s as Jacob couldn't be bothered caring for Ben "What about you?".
@stayupthere thats what i been saying... also, MiB doesnt want ppl to come on the island. he knows how bad it is and hates it. The island destroys ppls lives and imprisons them but jacob for some reason, sees them coming to island as "progress"
okay I don't wanna mess with darlton's flow and I LOVE LOST, don't get me wrong but it would've been awesome if oceanic6 would've never left the island and Jack would've been always like dammit I wanna leave bla bla and then Locke would've been all like you need to stay and won't let him leave.
Then at the end of season 5 (aka season6) jacob and mib are dead and last scene would be like the incident was only with jack (as new mib) and locke (as new jacob). Jcak wants to leave, john wont let him
@oFinesse. the song is jacobs song.when jacobs first discoverd thats the song,b4 he has his first meeting with m.i.b on beach when m.i.b says do you no how bad i want to kill you
Woah the parallels are uncanny. I don't think it was all planned out, but you can definitely see the foundations of what the show is now from the early episodes.
in the scene with jacob and nemesis on beach, MIB says how he wants to kill jacob. in the episode of locke's and jack's confrontation with all their people, jack pulls the trigger to try to kill locke.
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@Paradoxx211 locke was pathetic. he was nothing more than the man in black's puppet. he was being conned the whole show, he was obeying the man in black and doing everything he wanted. John Locke wasnt a believer, he was a sucker.
@Rude666 Not really, he believed there was some spiritual divine reason. That it was fate that they were there. But it was Jacob, not the island, and they were brought there as pawns to be used
@mrm87 has jacob ever killed anyone? man in black has killed lots of people plus jacob always wants to see good in people, man in black is convinced everyone is corruptable - which one do u think is the good guy now?
@DrunkLad91 just because jacob doesn't kill anyone doesn't mean he has no ulterior motives. we know even less about him than we do about MIB. by the end of the series, we might see why MIB is killing people; jacob could be good, but he may not be. that's all i was trying to say.
@mrm87 good point - i just hate all the mystery and were only 5 or 6 episodes away from the end - i think some of the mysteries should have been explained earlier like walt and his powers
@DrunkLad91 yeah, i have a feeling not everything about the series will be answered. however, i think most of the major questions will be answered. we can only hope there will be a Jacob/MIB centric episode explaining the roots behind their conflict.
@mrm87 there will be a jacob/mib centric episode - its called "Across the sea" - from what i read the episode will show no current stars like jack, sawyer or hurley etc just jacob, man in black and other people from their era - i cant wait for it!
@dude48124 man in black kills innocent people and manipulates them into killing jacob - mib is evil and jacob is good - now who is the good guy? a guy tht brings people to the island to test them or a guy that turns into black smoke and slaughters them???
its even more interesting when jacks says "any ships" or whatever he said because thats what mib came to jacob to talk about, i have a feelin that jack is the new candidate and ofcourse flocke is the man in black so yeah gonna be interesting
HOLY SHIT!!! What an amazing find!!! The music and the shots are EXACTLY the same with Jack as Jacob and Locke and the Man In Black. This is some brilliant foreshadowing.
WAHOW! Never notice this. Fantastic. But Locke is actually dead, supposedly, and mib is in lockes form. I can definitely see jack a jacob. jack could even be short for jacob. very interesting to see how this plays out.
i think jacub is testing the caidates by seeing which "cares" the most about the island and saving it from mib and thats why we are seeing a episode with every canidate... so far i think hurly will be the next jacub
notice how negative locke is talking about humans, like the biggest predator of all and bla bla, exactly as MIB said to Jacob: "they come, they fight, they destroy, they corrupt.." this scene could easily be the last scene we see in lost finale...
@LeRoseBassist13 I actually thought Locke resembled Jacob and Jack resembled MIB here. Remember that Jack always wanted off the island like MIB, while Locke wanted to stay like Jacob.
And I agree with CosmicUndeadElf about this pattern going on for quite a while.
@Krackometer Yeah, i mean except for The Wire... and The Sopranos... And Six Feat Under oh and Breaking Bad, and I guess Oz as well, Oh and yeah Mad Men, plus Homicide not to mention Boardwalk Empire and Treme. Also if we're counting comedies, Arrested Development, The Office UK and Qi. sorry, i love Lost but it can't touch the HBO greats. I mean The Wire is just Flawless and you really can't say that about Lost.
@JackMoranRain Ehh The Sopranos wasn't flawless either, haven't seen all of The Wire but so far I'd agree and Breaking Bad just borrows too much from films for me to agree whereas Lost did something truly original
Whatever Jacob and Mr Dark actually are, I think they are bonded to the island and as a result the issues between them effect the lives of people on the island. One of them wants to save the island, one believes it doesn't matter, just like the arguments between Jack and Locke, and the way that there are always 2 sides, Jack vs Locke, Ben vs Widmore, Richard vs Horace, etc
We will never know if these theories are true or not. There are very few episodes left and there is no wish from the scriptwriters to explain anything. Next episodes will be just the same as we saw until now: new mysteries unresolved. But the main feature of lost are the enigmas they give us and how we, the audience, try to find a logic answer for everything. This WON'T change in the coming...9 episodes. Time to be realistic. The show is not going to change in the last episodes.
Except, now the Man in Black is obviously Locke, who wants nothing BUT to get off the island and thinks that their isn't anything special about it, and Jack is Jacob because he believes so desperately that the island is special
Yeah, I should of seen that in the description. Now that thats for sure, I think its safe to say that this scene was not meant to be in any way parallel with the jacob and MIB scene. Its just jack sitting down and talking to locke on the beach, this happened plenty of times with other characters as well.
of course it is a parallel...the conversation is almost exactly the same...and Jacob's conflict with MIB seems to mirror the conflict between Jacob and MIB in the hatch....Jack and MIB are essentially men of science and Jacob and Locke are men of faith...the parallel is crystal clear IMHO
but that's what I said...sorta....in season 2 Jack was the man of science just like fake locke right now....jack became a man of faith after having left the island and coming back...the point is the guy I replied said that there was no parallel between Jack/Locke and and MIB/Jacob when its clearly there...
For some reason I think that there was no music playing in the scene in the actual episode. Obviously I can't remeber for sure, but it just seems like a scene where there woudn't be music playing.
I don't know if this music is actually playing in the real scene. The person who posted this video may have just put that music in. So this might not have anything to do with the Jacob/Nemsis thing.
@rocky2936 sry, what i meant was jack is the equivalent of the monster because lost s06e01 says that john locke wanted to stay on the island but the monster wanted to go. Locke has always been telling jack to stay but jack said your done keeping me on this island.
when all is said and done,im beggining doubt about a logical end for LOST.i mean,so much stuff has taken place,so much mistery,numbers,smoke,"others",richard alpert,travel time,dead people walking around.how could the directors make it coherent in the end?
Not bad. I think the fact that "they come. they corrupt. they destroy. it always ends the same." is significant that humanity is evil/unwise, according to MIB but Jacob believes the opposite. The title, LOST, could have several meanings but as a whole, i think it is the struggle between light and dark, good and evil, right and wrong. MIB believes in fate. Jacob believes in infinite destinies. And those who are on the side of evil those,who are on the wrong side, are truly LOST.
Jacob is the only intelligent one, really: he realizes that any of humanities squabbles, disguised as some kind of good vs evil bullshit or not, are essentially meaningless since all people are too unique to all ultimately conform to a singular cause(IE: It is impossible for any one side of anything to ever "win"). So, essentially, if man doesnt wipe itself out, all that's left is progress.
The realty is more complex. People are torturing their spirits to know who is the bad or who is the good. I think that there is no Good Side and Bad Side, it's a game, there is only opposites.
thank you i see it in german but without the music, they talk about other things, only the boat, but i cant see paralells, but nice video with the music
god i miss lost...
CollinsPurpleShoes 1 month ago
lol
This is funny a bit with this music xD
'They are smart animals" (and the music is loud xD)
SuperBundi123 4 months ago
people who call locke a bad man, are way beyond understanding that he could have easily killed someone one by one, which could have been the reason they formed a cult conspiracy called "the others" the man was broken , but he was never really capable of breaking rules of sanity , he knew when he could walk it was destiny and as he said to jack "crazy people dont know they are going crazy they think they are getting saner" locke had a beginning and ending for a purpose for a reason.
GoodLifeGoodLove 5 months ago
I really miss that show :( !!
leatherface1973 6 months ago 3
Hhh
veiled33 6 months ago
wow awesome.the Jacob/man in black connection.
ime239 8 months ago
Locke is the best.
EvilHippy38 8 months ago
Jack a great chracter of lost
7S2a6m3e3e7r 8 months ago
Locke is a great character
MusicToEatOfficial 8 months ago
Dude's that's awesome.
Yeah, as landenundetakerfan said, Locke's not evil, but maybe it's just a littel look into the future, since MIB later overtakes Locke's body...
But cool! But where's the link for the Jacob/MIB-one?
SygeNizzleOrnligNajs 9 months ago
Seems like I catch something new every time I go through Lost, every time I think they didn't answer something, I rewatch an episode in a new light and find an answer (well, most of the time). Great writing.
CapitalSoccer72 10 months ago
I don´t like the new Lost music that much.
TheMajin7 10 months ago
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kaviliaidissotiris 11 months ago
Wow, I wouldnt of ever put this together.. but then again this show confused the heck out of me..
heartoftheocean21 1 year ago
i'm guessing. LOCKE & JACK were the new JACOB & MIB . & they couldnt kill each other.
iArieeee 1 year ago
That's weird. Cause MIB became Locke and Jack became Jacob....
JimboGrinbo 1 year ago
I watched Hearts and Minds again, and noticed even more connections with this scene and the opening of "The Incident." "Mind if I join you?" is verbatim in both. They are talking about food in both. One explains to the other that patience is a virtue, "...everything else is just progress" ....Plus reference to humans being "bad"...."the most dangerous predator of all."
justinh125 1 year ago
My mind has been blown. :-O
JustSayNoToNutbread 1 year ago
i hated Jack until the final season where he realized locke was right
balaalalaslk 1 year ago 9
Yea shit was the BeSt ! Till that last season ! I mean COME ON SON !
Branzo29 1 year ago 3
the music's exactly the same too, I'm pretty sure...
bakerstreetbookworm 1 year ago
@bakerstreetbookworm
This music wasnt there. It was dubbed over just for this video.
sinkingship101 1 year ago
@sinkingship101
Oh, okay. Too bad, that would've have been crazy!
bakerstreetbookworm 1 year ago
@sinkingship101
ah, that makes sense, then :)
bakerstreetbookworm 7 months ago
what is the last episode? seson 6 what episode?
buneaalexpetru 1 year ago
@buneaalexpetru season 6 episodes 17/18 called "The End"
spongedan219 1 year ago
best show ever
thematrixjose 1 year ago 2
flocke ftw
AnarexicShark 1 year ago
awesome
dpboyle20 1 year ago
WOW!!!! I forgot about this scene. Holy crap I feel like an idiot for not noticing the parallel
grapes9h5 1 year ago 4
jack = jacob
John = MiB
listen to the last thing John says about man being the world's most dangerous predator. Then listen to what the MiB says about how man is evil and corruptable.
conned126 1 year ago 3
I'm sick and tired of people saying that Locke is the nemesis, it's the Man In Black, not Locke, and as Jack said in the finale, The Man In Black is a disgrace to John Locke's memory by wearing his face, so stop calling Locke evil, or at least call him FLocke gawd dammit!!!!!!
landenundertakerfan 1 year ago 47
frajeru nadamse da neću završit ko ti , ali bojim se da ipak budem lol. thumbs up anyway
ivaerak 1 year ago
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i hated locke his life was fucking pathetic
jaudyflores 1 year ago
jack should have worn a black sweater for that take :-P
Arawanach 1 year ago
@Arawanach You mean white? Since Jack becomes the new Jacob and Locke as the nemesis.
IVisionLive 1 year ago
@IVisionLive
no, I mean black :-P since Locke was sitting there first, like Jacob looking over the ocean. And Jack coming there as the second person... like the man in black.
And beside, you forget one thing. John was a believer. At that point, John was not evil. Just like the man in black wasn't always evil he either.
Black/darkness doesn't always mean bad/evil. You know it was the light that made the man in black become evil? So the light is actually a bad thing. Jacob isn't pure in any way
Arawanach 1 year ago
This has a slightly scary feeling about it, I've never even noticed the comparison up until now..
ChocolateRain68 1 year ago
that was kinda creepy.
DomIstKrieg 1 year ago
Really interessting that Jack took MIB´s Part in this
Solartas 1 year ago 2
It's the same exact music too!!!! Cool!!
monalisasmiles4you 1 year ago
@monalisasmiles4you
I think this was added...He says so in the info ! :)
triklops 1 year ago
@monalisasmiles4you the one who made this video added the music in the background, this song wasn't there in the first season
aryabg 1 year ago
the 'man in black' is not a bad person, he has been prisoned and trapped on this island for his whole life and he just wants to leave because he see's no point in staying because theres no point protecting it. But he will do whatever he has to do to leave the island, even if it means killing people. Nice find btw =), jack is the new jacob and locke is the man in black so it just shows the writers had this planned from the start
Jackandwwe 1 year ago
@Jackandwwe The MIB (the real one) isn't bad but the smoke monster pretending he's him IS and he has other plans when he gets off the Island.
mackayash 1 year ago
@Jackandwwe They didn't have it planned, though.
ViciousMihael 1 year ago
@ViciousMihael you can't know that for sure
mecavity 1 year ago
@mecavity They said on the special before the finale that they weren't sure on pretty much anything when the show was starting out. So I'm pretty sure.
ViciousMihael 1 year ago
If people think MiB is bad.. everyone has their flaws: Just because MiB kills people and Jacob does not, it doesn't mean one is good/bad or wrong/right. This can be reflected with Jack/Locke: Locke killed Naomi and blew up the sub but in the end he did it for the best interest of everyone. Jack fixes people but eventually couldn't be bothered helping a dying Ben in the 1970s as Jacob couldn't be bothered caring for Ben "What about you?".
stayupthere 1 year ago
@stayupthere thats what i been saying... also, MiB doesnt want ppl to come on the island. he knows how bad it is and hates it. The island destroys ppls lives and imprisons them but jacob for some reason, sees them coming to island as "progress"
moemoney012 1 year ago
@stayupthere but the MiB didnt help ben, it was that pool in the temple that didnt save syed
moemoney012 1 year ago
@moemoney012 Apparently, MIB brought Sayid back to life.
Transformers217 1 year ago
okay I don't wanna mess with darlton's flow and I LOVE LOST, don't get me wrong but it would've been awesome if oceanic6 would've never left the island and Jack would've been always like dammit I wanna leave bla bla and then Locke would've been all like you need to stay and won't let him leave.
Then at the end of season 5 (aka season6) jacob and mib are dead and last scene would be like the incident was only with jack (as new mib) and locke (as new jacob). Jcak wants to leave, john wont let him
1LOST4life1 1 year ago 2
nice find
ssskinz062382 1 year ago
There's probably a reason they played Jacob's theme in the background of this scene.
ashtontupper 1 year ago
@ashtontupper BolusTube added the song to this scene ;)
wow but I think this really means something.. almost the same conversation!
eLiLLy815 1 year ago
wow do you think they did this on purpose?
VampireLord66 1 year ago
Mind fuck
PSUBLJ 1 year ago
anyone knows the song??
oFinesse 1 year ago
@oFinesse. the song is jacobs song.when jacobs first discoverd thats the song,b4 he has his first meeting with m.i.b on beach when m.i.b says do you no how bad i want to kill you
ssskinz062382 1 year ago
Wow!!! That's just awesome!!!
jfran6 1 year ago
It's a reach.
best part of lost, and all these YT videos are the tangents and lengths people will theorize on .. i love it
but yeah, this one, not holding any water
although I believe jack to be a likely jacob replacement.. i don't think this scene was any more then that conversation
FLPman 1 year ago
SHIT!
morthgog 1 year ago
this is just to show that in the end locke will be the black smoke monster and that jack will take jacobs place .
markusmccourtus 1 year ago
Woah the parallels are uncanny. I don't think it was all planned out, but you can definitely see the foundations of what the show is now from the early episodes.
jimbopumbapigsticks 1 year ago
i bet the creators are glad someone picked this up
DK83pwns 1 year ago 9
is that the original music that was playing here? cause if it was, then allusions can be found through:
-jack asking if locke had seen any ships, while jacob and MIB talked as the ship the Black Rock approached
-Juxtaposition between Jack approaching Locke, while in the other scene it was MIB who approached Jacob
-Jacob is eating while they talk, and in this one they talk about boar (food)
-and of course, the music
crazywhales 1 year ago
More proof they had this planned all along. Great writing.
NedRavine 1 year ago 4
I bet you that the final chapter will be similar than this one, Jack and MIB turned into Locke
MetalDG1 1 year ago
@NFW34 Its going to be Sawyer and JAck in the ned on the beach
gumbercules82 1 year ago
i just noticed something else.
in the scene with jacob and nemesis on beach, MIB says how he wants to kill jacob. in the episode of locke's and jack's confrontation with all their people, jack pulls the trigger to try to kill locke.
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Paradoxx211 1 year ago 91
@Paradoxx211 locke was pathetic. he was nothing more than the man in black's puppet. he was being conned the whole show, he was obeying the man in black and doing everything he wanted. John Locke wasnt a believer, he was a sucker.
dude48124 11 months ago
@dude48124 That may be true, but as Jack said in the finale: "It turns he was right about most everything"
Rude666 10 months ago
@Rude666 Not really, he believed there was some spiritual divine reason. That it was fate that they were there. But it was Jacob, not the island, and they were brought there as pawns to be used
dude48124 10 months ago
@Paradoxx211 Reading this now makes me sad to know you were so wrong :(
CKapps 8 months ago
BolusTube Rocks !!!
WoodstockHippie1969 1 year ago
I think once we learn more about Jacob, we'll see he's not as good as some people say he is.
mrm87 1 year ago 3
@mrm87 has jacob ever killed anyone? man in black has killed lots of people plus jacob always wants to see good in people, man in black is convinced everyone is corruptable - which one do u think is the good guy now?
DrunkLad91 1 year ago
@DrunkLad91 just because jacob doesn't kill anyone doesn't mean he has no ulterior motives. we know even less about him than we do about MIB. by the end of the series, we might see why MIB is killing people; jacob could be good, but he may not be. that's all i was trying to say.
mrm87 1 year ago
@mrm87 good point - i just hate all the mystery and were only 5 or 6 episodes away from the end - i think some of the mysteries should have been explained earlier like walt and his powers
DrunkLad91 1 year ago
@DrunkLad91 yeah, i have a feeling not everything about the series will be answered. however, i think most of the major questions will be answered. we can only hope there will be a Jacob/MIB centric episode explaining the roots behind their conflict.
mrm87 1 year ago
@mrm87 there will be a jacob/mib centric episode - its called "Across the sea" - from what i read the episode will show no current stars like jack, sawyer or hurley etc just jacob, man in black and other people from their era - i cant wait for it!
DrunkLad91 1 year ago 4
@DrunkLad91 i think walt's mystery has already been answered.....
Krackometer 1 year ago
@DrunkLad91 The man in black is right. and jacob is ruining peoples lives just to proove him wrong - which one do u think is the good guy now?
dude48124 1 year ago
@dude48124 man in black kills innocent people and manipulates them into killing jacob - mib is evil and jacob is good - now who is the good guy? a guy tht brings people to the island to test them or a guy that turns into black smoke and slaughters them???
DrunkLad91 1 year ago
@DrunkLad91 The man in black only kills people if they've sinned.
dude48124 1 year ago
its even more interesting when jacks says "any ships" or whatever he said because thats what mib came to jacob to talk about, i have a feelin that jack is the new candidate and ofcourse flocke is the man in black so yeah gonna be interesting
curryshop6 1 year ago
HOLY SHIT!!! What an amazing find!!! The music and the shots are EXACTLY the same with Jack as Jacob and Locke and the Man In Black. This is some brilliant foreshadowing.
darklordrandy 1 year ago
Even the music is teh same.. damn, this is some cool show
ricardoarios1 1 year ago
Wow, I never noticed this before! Wow.. :-D
Maj00w 1 year ago
WAHOW! Never notice this. Fantastic. But Locke is actually dead, supposedly, and mib is in lockes form. I can definitely see jack a jacob. jack could even be short for jacob. very interesting to see how this plays out.
aleemone 1 year ago
an awesome point!
Turana333 1 year ago
Jack is MIB and Locke is Jacob.
mrm87 1 year ago
@mrm87 it will be so fantastic;
Bobbylatope 1 year ago
i swear i knew something was up when i saw this i was like DAMMNNNN the conversation is almost exact LOVE IT!!!
PBLOVSH 1 year ago
Hmm, so John Locke does things initially that keep everyone on the island, like Jacob, and Jack will do anything to get off.
blueantenna 1 year ago 2
Fun factor:
In the book "Lord of the Flies", the bad kids tend to hunt pigs and boars whilst the good kids eat berries or what they can find.
Syzydeh 1 year ago
and yes! LOST is the best show ever seen in the world!
mythic!
DOWSER68 1 year ago 6
@DOWSER68 THE BEST EVER.
PeterEhik 1 year ago
the parallel is disturbing
DOWSER68 1 year ago
War is coming
dimigiou 1 year ago
i think jacub is testing the caidates by seeing which "cares" the most about the island and saving it from mib and thats why we are seeing a episode with every canidate... so far i think hurly will be the next jacub
hullcity4ever 1 year ago 2
kewl vid man
gunsbulletsheroin 1 year ago
notice how negative locke is talking about humans, like the biggest predator of all and bla bla, exactly as MIB said to Jacob: "they come, they fight, they destroy, they corrupt.." this scene could easily be the last scene we see in lost finale...
greken145 1 year ago 2
it would make sense if jack was to become the new jacob.
John89FLStudio 1 year ago 5
OMG
HalidirX 1 year ago
dang thats intresting. does this mean that jack could be the main candidate to replace jacob since techincally locke replaced MIB/Esau
LeRoseBassist13 1 year ago
@LeRoseBassist13 I actually thought Locke resembled Jacob and Jack resembled MIB here. Remember that Jack always wanted off the island like MIB, while Locke wanted to stay like Jacob.
And I agree with CosmicUndeadElf about this pattern going on for quite a while.
TanisterATL 1 year ago 2
lol
Morrow77 1 year ago
however it ends it will still be the best tv show in the world =)
Krackometer 1 year ago 173
hell yeah it will be!!
but still, I don't want it to end:S
rudyeilabouni 1 year ago
@Krackometer as long as it dont end like the sopranos
relmmih6 1 year ago 2
@Krackometer mmm probably has been the worst end possible :(
kikecacique 1 year ago
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Luke47895 1 year ago
@Krackometer disagree.
Tschiyeah 1 year ago
@Krackometer Yeah, i mean except for The Wire... and The Sopranos... And Six Feat Under oh and Breaking Bad, and I guess Oz as well, Oh and yeah Mad Men, plus Homicide not to mention Boardwalk Empire and Treme. Also if we're counting comedies, Arrested Development, The Office UK and Qi. sorry, i love Lost but it can't touch the HBO greats. I mean The Wire is just Flawless and you really can't say that about Lost.
JackMoranRain 1 year ago
@JackMoranRain yes I totally agree all very good shows
TheAdmirableAdmiral 11 months ago
@JackMoranRain Ehh The Sopranos wasn't flawless either, haven't seen all of The Wire but so far I'd agree and Breaking Bad just borrows too much from films for me to agree whereas Lost did something truly original
CapitalSoccer72 10 months ago
So does this make Jack parallel to Flocke?
NoMereRanger303 1 year ago
no jack to jacob
jack10133 1 year ago 2
Whatever Jacob and Mr Dark actually are, I think they are bonded to the island and as a result the issues between them effect the lives of people on the island. One of them wants to save the island, one believes it doesn't matter, just like the arguments between Jack and Locke, and the way that there are always 2 sides, Jack vs Locke, Ben vs Widmore, Richard vs Horace, etc
CosmicUndeadElf 1 year ago
We will never know if these theories are true or not. There are very few episodes left and there is no wish from the scriptwriters to explain anything. Next episodes will be just the same as we saw until now: new mysteries unresolved. But the main feature of lost are the enigmas they give us and how we, the audience, try to find a logic answer for everything. This WON'T change in the coming...9 episodes. Time to be realistic. The show is not going to change in the last episodes.
nathimaxi 1 year ago
Are u joking? we get new answers for every episode in season 6, and no more questions are coming..
greken145 1 year ago
I hope there won't be too many questions!
iambehindthemirror 1 year ago
you added the music lol I saw this ep the other day well done though
nell2727 1 year ago
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OMG wel spotted! Same music and everything
Joeyj3dy 1 year ago
Dude, be honest, did you add the music?
Because if you didn't, I'm totally on board.
Except, now the Man in Black is obviously Locke, who wants nothing BUT to get off the island and thinks that their isn't anything special about it, and Jack is Jacob because he believes so desperately that the island is special
jjrhs 1 year ago
he did add the music just to make the parallel clearer...
Windmill360 1 year ago 5
the most convincing part of this theory is carlton cuse wrote this episode and he also wrote the incident! :)
Artemismoon 1 year ago
wow great theory man i think in the end jack will be the new man in black and locke will be the new jacob.
maknicmoo 1 year ago
'Cept that Locke is dead.
RevanorSzeged 1 year ago
Locke died, though.
Triggahappy64 1 year ago
"The most dangerous predator of all".
Becuase they came to his island? :P
Fasolace7 1 year ago
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ERoBB1 1 year ago
wow! good find!
SuperDawgE 1 year ago
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OMG the music is the same for this scene and the Jacob MIB scene!!!
supaflyjediguy52 1 year ago
@supaflyjediguy52 fail he added the music
DJdynasty3000 1 year ago 2
Oh man. Too awesome to be a coincidence.
sarahkinzz 1 year ago 5
i wanna bang kate anyone got her phone number
triggypoo 1 year ago 3
@triggypoo nope, but i got ure mums.
1080portal 1 year ago 5
@triggypoo hahahahaha
DJdynasty3000 1 year ago
Yeah, I should of seen that in the description. Now that thats for sure, I think its safe to say that this scene was not meant to be in any way parallel with the jacob and MIB scene. Its just jack sitting down and talking to locke on the beach, this happened plenty of times with other characters as well.
dustintml 1 year ago
of course it is a parallel...the conversation is almost exactly the same...and Jacob's conflict with MIB seems to mirror the conflict between Jacob and MIB in the hatch....Jack and MIB are essentially men of science and Jacob and Locke are men of faith...the parallel is crystal clear IMHO
Windmill360 1 year ago 4
@Windmill360 dude, MIB is supposed to portray Locke as the man of science, I think. At least now that the real Locke is dead.
Jack is totally the man of faith now, look at pretty much EVERY scene he was in in Season 5.
jjrhs 1 year ago
but that's what I said...sorta....in season 2 Jack was the man of science just like fake locke right now....jack became a man of faith after having left the island and coming back...the point is the guy I replied said that there was no parallel between Jack/Locke and and MIB/Jacob when its clearly there...
Windmill360 1 year ago
The music is edited people!
Robihno888 1 year ago 3
I could be wrong though....
dustintml 1 year ago
@dustintml read the description it even says the theme (music) was added.
hoodwinked215 1 year ago
For some reason I think that there was no music playing in the scene in the actual episode. Obviously I can't remeber for sure, but it just seems like a scene where there woudn't be music playing.
dustintml 1 year ago
I don't know if this music is actually playing in the real scene. The person who posted this video may have just put that music in. So this might not have anything to do with the Jacob/Nemsis thing.
dustintml 1 year ago
jack is the monster
1080portal 1 year ago
No, he is not
rocky2936 1 year ago
@rocky2936 sry, what i meant was jack is the equivalent of the monster because lost s06e01 says that john locke wanted to stay on the island but the monster wanted to go. Locke has always been telling jack to stay but jack said your done keeping me on this island.
1080portal 1 year ago
u are lost
quickchaos2009 1 year ago
@quickchaos2009 i am found
1080portal 1 year ago
I also dont belive they can answer all our questions. Anyway, i will watch next episode streamed on internet through direct-satellite (dot) tk
MrGeorgeBlack 1 year ago
when all is said and done,im beggining doubt about a logical end for LOST.i mean,so much stuff has taken place,so much mistery,numbers,smoke,"others",richard alpert,travel time,dead people walking around.how could the directors make it coherent in the end?
tonymtno 1 year ago
They will. I'm sure.
MikeBlue16 1 year ago
really well spotted
robbykhu 2 years ago
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same music
itsbigandfat 2 years ago
jack asks "any ships" lock "not yet but im patient" in the parallel scene the black rock is there!
paddybenson626 2 years ago 2
wow. very nice - I never noticed that. nice find! theses writers have such a great ability to be subtle.
TheGoldenProject 2 years ago 4
i think Lost is about a "game" you win or you loose, and the trick is not to loose or your "Lost"
babystinky 2 years ago
Not bad. I think the fact that "they come. they corrupt. they destroy. it always ends the same." is significant that humanity is evil/unwise, according to MIB but Jacob believes the opposite. The title, LOST, could have several meanings but as a whole, i think it is the struggle between light and dark, good and evil, right and wrong. MIB believes in fate. Jacob believes in infinite destinies. And those who are on the side of evil those,who are on the wrong side, are truly LOST.
THEFIRSTAVENGERUSA 2 years ago
Jacob is the only intelligent one, really: he realizes that any of humanities squabbles, disguised as some kind of good vs evil bullshit or not, are essentially meaningless since all people are too unique to all ultimately conform to a singular cause(IE: It is impossible for any one side of anything to ever "win"). So, essentially, if man doesnt wipe itself out, all that's left is progress.
sam5345 2 years ago 3
Well stated. I think you just summed up the entire series haha
THEFIRSTAVENGERUSA 2 years ago
The realty is more complex. People are torturing their spirits to know who is the bad or who is the good. I think that there is no Good Side and Bad Side, it's a game, there is only opposites.
AmAxORuLz 1 year ago 2
the writers of this show are amazing. wow.
MilesWC7 2 years ago 7
Haha, I noticed this while I was rewatching season 1 the other week too! I like the music you added. It totally changed the mood of the scene. : )
PinaColadaChan 2 years ago
which episode from which season is this please
vesi1986 2 years ago
@vesi1986 hearts and minds
dkb2007 2 years ago
thank you i see it in german but without the music, they talk about other things, only the boat, but i cant see paralells, but nice video with the music
vesi1986 2 years ago
No that is not the original music that played during this scene. It was clearly added from the Season 5 finale.
And you people call yourselves Lost fans? For shame...
counterculture 2 years ago 2
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euany1 2 years ago
I noticed the same parallels when rewatching the entire first 5 seasons...
This scene is too eerily similar to the opening of the season 5 finale...
Twilightcatboy 2 years ago
hey, tell me something, does that soundtrack that plays over Locke's scene was actually in that episode? Because if it did, then you're 100% correct.
DanGM123 2 years ago
I doubt it. And I would say this looks more as a coincidence, even for such a well constructed series like Lost.
Ngooo 2 years ago
Haha when I heard this music under this scene that was the first question popping in my had aswell!
Gsuswalks 2 years ago