ya - i stick needles in myself all the time, and i feel AMAZING!!!! sometimes the herbs make me sleepy, but i wake up feeling great, and the variety of needles can heal ANY THING!!!!!
a lot of this stuff I hear as a massage therapist too. No I will not work on you for free. No I do not do acupuncture, I'm not trained for it. etc etc etc.
I do love me some acupuncture, though. I have never walked out of my Acupuncturists office feeling less than awesome. And despite my own training I was little skeptical that it would work FOR ME the first time I went. Now I refer her more than any other health practitioner partner.
I love the positivity I see on this site. I enjoy the way everyone who visits it puts their comment. It's amazing to see how visitors share their views.
This is hilarious! I'm guessing ThePsychoticnut believes conventional medicine is "valid." The defunct US Office of Technology determined in the 90's that less than 20% of conventional medical practice has been validated by science. This means that, when you go to the hospital, there's a good chance that there is no evidence that supports the treatment you receive other than the fact that the profession has deemed it "standard of care." This hasn't changed, according to meta research this yr
Acupuncture healed my dog of a condition that the regular vets had advised that I euthanize her....she had no belief system in the treatment...makes me doubt in the placebo effect. And, I'm now in acupuncture school :)
Acupuncture has been tested and found to be no better than placebo. Chinese medicine IS nothing but hocus pocus and is causing real harm by destroying endangered species because some of the "remedies" require the addition of components, usually organs from endangered species such as tigers. I'm not saying that they don't get some things right. You would be a pretty poor gambler if you didn't get something right atleast once in a thousand years but most of it is garbage.
@ThePsychoticnut Do you know what placebo is? Define placebo for me please. Does placebo mean no effect? And by the way, you sound like you do not know much about Chinese Medicine. Criticizing without adequate information on a subject is unfortunately becoming more and more common. There are a lot of Wikipedia philosophers around. I suggest you to read more research studies and experience it before you say anything about it.
@keslern when I say placebo what I mean is something of no intrinsic remedial value that is used to appease or reassure a person in a control group. here are some examples of studies that I was talking about:
for some reason it wont post the links to the studies so I'm not sure how to get the info to you except to have you google acupuncture skeptic and do the research yourself.
internet is not my only source btw for the points I made. I'm not just a "wikipedia philosopher" as you called me. "you sound like you do not know much about Chinese Medicine." why because I disagree with you? "it's been around for thousands of years" is no argument for the validity of anything. All manner of myths and superstitions that people still believe have "been around for thousands of years" that doesn't make them valid. how about directing us to a study that validates even one remedy.
@ThePsychoticnut I will tell you why the clinical studies that show no significant difference between acupuncture and placebo groups are not valid.
First of all unlike conventional medicine, skills of the practitioner is important in Chinese medicine. In a clinical trial of a drug, skills of the clinicians is not important but acupuncture is not only a interaction between the patient and the needles, but also between the patient and the practitioner.
@keslern Your assumption is that none of the trials carried out that don't meet your expectations were not carried out properly. On what basis do you make this assumption?
You also mention that the scientific method is not suitable for testing chinese medicine. I ask you then if, as I'm assuming you claim, acupuncture is more than just pseudoscience mumbo jumbo what evidence would you except as proof that it is a sham?
@ThePsychoticnut " what evidence would you except as proof that it is a sham?"
Very simple. Clinical results. And scientific experiments that do not rely on patient trials, but scientific studies that measure the functions of acupuncture points by using imaging (e.g. fMRI) and radiological findings. This way using same points for every patients is by passed. I suggest you to check those studies out.
@ThePsychoticnut Second, selection of points are important. I reviewed hundreds of research with poor point selection. That makes the results pointing out the validity of the point selection. Third, western scientific method setting is not suitable for Chinese Medicine. Because in Chinese Medicine we do not treat the disease but the patient. So pattern differentiation is important. 10 patient with back pain may have 10 different root cause. That means you can not use same points on them.
@keslern again you are making the assumption that the clinicians are not conducting their research properly. The reports I have read indicated that point selection was made vary carefully. In fact in some trials the sham acupuncture control group received real needles placed in the wrong places.
@ThePsychoticnut "sham acupuncture control group received real needles placed in the wrong places". What are those wrong places? There are 360 main meridian points in the body and few hundred extra points. So anywhere you place in the body, you are having an intervention that you can not know what reaction you may get from it. So using sham needles is not really sham.
@ThePsychoticnut Third. Sham acupuncture needles are blunted acupuncture needles usually. They still have an effect on the patient, because some researches proves that acupuncture is related to the electrical activity of human body and even blunted metal needles will make a difference. As a result of all these reasons Chinese medicine is high on demand although some studies show no significant effect. Because clinic results are much different than experimental results.
@keslern If blunted needles work exactly just as good as real needles (which is what the tests prove) then why use real needles? Blunted ones got to be much safer.
"As a result of all these reasons Chinese medicine is high on demand" First off you didn't give any reasons. Secondly Chinese medicine is in high demand because many people are gullible and sick people will try anything when modern medicine fails them.
@ThePsychoticnut You need sham in clinical trials with actual patients, not with the studies done with fMRI. And I did not say there is no therapeutic difference between them. I say that assuming Sham needles has no effect is wrong and that is an additional intervention which is against the scientific methodology. Even there is a discussion going on among MDs about "sugar" placebo pills, that the unknown chemicals within the sugar pills may have effects that is unknown to us today.
Respond to this video..."Chinese medicine is in high demand because many people are gullible and sick people will try anything when modern medicine fails them"
Exactly, conventional medicine fails in some cases and those patients look for other solutions and some try Chinese medicine. If it did not work, they would not continue with it and sooner or later the demand would drop down. It is increasing. So that means most of the patients experinece is not the same with your beliefs.
You can't say that "Chinese Medicine" is valid anyway since it is made up of hundreds maybe thousands of home remedies, each of which need to be tested independently from each other to be considered valid/invalid.
Good for you for finishing chiropractic licensing. This is a very noble profession and great specialty. I hope you will not think that while you have had some minimal training in Acupuncture that you are an expert. Good luck in your excited field of Chiropractic.
LMAO! Great job! Informative and hilarious! I love the bears, I've made videos with them before. Besides the iPhone one that someone made, this may be the best so far. Kudos!!!
Hilarious video. I am acupuncturist and I get these types of questions/statements all the time. Who ever made this video...my hats off to you. Thanks for making it entertaining.
ya - i stick needles in myself all the time, and i feel AMAZING!!!! sometimes the herbs make me sleepy, but i wake up feeling great, and the variety of needles can heal ANY THING!!!!!
fhorn4ever2007 2 weeks ago
a lot of this stuff I hear as a massage therapist too. No I will not work on you for free. No I do not do acupuncture, I'm not trained for it. etc etc etc.
I do love me some acupuncture, though. I have never walked out of my Acupuncturists office feeling less than awesome. And despite my own training I was little skeptical that it would work FOR ME the first time I went. Now I refer her more than any other health practitioner partner.
ferrous719 3 weeks ago
YES!!!!!!!!!!!
trinakria007 1 month ago
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I love the positivity I see on this site. I enjoy the way everyone who visits it puts their comment. It's amazing to see how visitors share their views.
sitetrafficsite 2 months ago
Cool stuff,thumbs up
georgpaul49 2 months ago
PMS ANNNNND infertility! WOW double whammy!
XieYali 2 months ago
If it solves PMS every woman needs mandatory acupuncture sessions weekly...
TheRobTuber 2 months ago
i use needles so... want me to stick my needle in you...
eternalblits 3 months ago
@thadjacobs i guess youve never perused any medical journals from the last 50 years or so? science is behind everything.
pilyapearl 4 months ago
This is SO GOOD AND PRECIOUS!
RyanSylwester 4 months ago
In Fla M.D.'s need ZERO hours of acu training and chiros only 100 hours. It's fraud but at least they're happy.
heartslord 4 months ago
I love these fucking bears
chutdigadut 4 months ago
Hockus pockus
MyGracely 5 months ago
That nigger is racist!
gillettecrackers 5 months ago 2
Acupuncture for infertility :S don't like to imagine how it works
MrNusecus 5 months ago
awesome!!!! i loved it and its so true!
leclarkpharmd 6 months ago
Check out the research of Helene Langevin, M.D. - on how acupuncture works.
newyorkbirds 9 months ago
Awesome!! I love the whole thing!!! I am all for an alternative to medication, any day of the week.
BandiStyle 11 months ago
I'm an acupuncturist and this is F-ing hilarious!!!!!!! LOVE IT!!!!!!!
Amondala 1 year ago 2
This is excellent. We even put it on our holistic, primary care medical center website homepage based in Santa Monica, California at lotusew.com
brendanarmm 1 year ago
Very funny. Especially having had conversations like this with people (practicing Chinese medicine)...
jereproctor 1 year ago
This is a fun way to spread the truth about acupuncture. Very cute.
Atropism101 1 year ago
I love Kung Pao Chicken!
lunapuppy 1 year ago
This is hilarious! I'm guessing ThePsychoticnut believes conventional medicine is "valid." The defunct US Office of Technology determined in the 90's that less than 20% of conventional medical practice has been validated by science. This means that, when you go to the hospital, there's a good chance that there is no evidence that supports the treatment you receive other than the fact that the profession has deemed it "standard of care." This hasn't changed, according to meta research this yr
thadjacobs 1 year ago 8
@thadjacobs UN-F***KIN-BELEIVABLE!!! - wow
trinakria007 1 month ago
Acupuncture healed my dog of a condition that the regular vets had advised that I euthanize her....she had no belief system in the treatment...makes me doubt in the placebo effect. And, I'm now in acupuncture school :)
mandarinlearner 1 year ago 13
@mandarinlearner - acupuncture and TCM works!! (even dogs and animals that dont understand the placebo effect it heals)
trinakria007 1 month ago
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Acupuncture has been tested and found to be no better than placebo. Chinese medicine IS nothing but hocus pocus and is causing real harm by destroying endangered species because some of the "remedies" require the addition of components, usually organs from endangered species such as tigers. I'm not saying that they don't get some things right. You would be a pretty poor gambler if you didn't get something right atleast once in a thousand years but most of it is garbage.
ThePsychoticnut 1 year ago
@ThePsychoticnut Do you know what placebo is? Define placebo for me please. Does placebo mean no effect? And by the way, you sound like you do not know much about Chinese Medicine. Criticizing without adequate information on a subject is unfortunately becoming more and more common. There are a lot of Wikipedia philosophers around. I suggest you to read more research studies and experience it before you say anything about it.
keslern 1 year ago
@keslern when I say placebo what I mean is something of no intrinsic remedial value that is used to appease or reassure a person in a control group. here are some examples of studies that I was talking about:
ThePsychoticnut 1 year ago
for some reason it wont post the links to the studies so I'm not sure how to get the info to you except to have you google acupuncture skeptic and do the research yourself.
ThePsychoticnut 1 year ago
internet is not my only source btw for the points I made. I'm not just a "wikipedia philosopher" as you called me. "you sound like you do not know much about Chinese Medicine." why because I disagree with you? "it's been around for thousands of years" is no argument for the validity of anything. All manner of myths and superstitions that people still believe have "been around for thousands of years" that doesn't make them valid. how about directing us to a study that validates even one remedy.
ThePsychoticnut 1 year ago
@ThePsychoticnut I will tell you why the clinical studies that show no significant difference between acupuncture and placebo groups are not valid.
First of all unlike conventional medicine, skills of the practitioner is important in Chinese medicine. In a clinical trial of a drug, skills of the clinicians is not important but acupuncture is not only a interaction between the patient and the needles, but also between the patient and the practitioner.
keslern 1 year ago
@keslern Your assumption is that none of the trials carried out that don't meet your expectations were not carried out properly. On what basis do you make this assumption?
ThePsychoticnut 1 year ago
You also mention that the scientific method is not suitable for testing chinese medicine. I ask you then if, as I'm assuming you claim, acupuncture is more than just pseudoscience mumbo jumbo what evidence would you except as proof that it is a sham?
ThePsychoticnut 1 year ago
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@ThePsychoticnut " what evidence would you except as proof that it is a sham?"
Very simple. Clinical results. And scientific experiments that do not rely on patient trials, but scientific studies that measure the functions of acupuncture points by using imaging (e.g. fMRI) and radiological findings. This way using same points for every patients is by passed. I suggest you to check those studies out.
keslern 1 year ago
@ThePsychoticnut Second, selection of points are important. I reviewed hundreds of research with poor point selection. That makes the results pointing out the validity of the point selection. Third, western scientific method setting is not suitable for Chinese Medicine. Because in Chinese Medicine we do not treat the disease but the patient. So pattern differentiation is important. 10 patient with back pain may have 10 different root cause. That means you can not use same points on them.
keslern 1 year ago
@keslern again you are making the assumption that the clinicians are not conducting their research properly. The reports I have read indicated that point selection was made vary carefully. In fact in some trials the sham acupuncture control group received real needles placed in the wrong places.
ThePsychoticnut 1 year ago
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@ThePsychoticnut "sham acupuncture control group received real needles placed in the wrong places". What are those wrong places? There are 360 main meridian points in the body and few hundred extra points. So anywhere you place in the body, you are having an intervention that you can not know what reaction you may get from it. So using sham needles is not really sham.
keslern 1 year ago
@ThePsychoticnut Third. Sham acupuncture needles are blunted acupuncture needles usually. They still have an effect on the patient, because some researches proves that acupuncture is related to the electrical activity of human body and even blunted metal needles will make a difference. As a result of all these reasons Chinese medicine is high on demand although some studies show no significant effect. Because clinic results are much different than experimental results.
keslern 1 year ago
@keslern If blunted needles work exactly just as good as real needles (which is what the tests prove) then why use real needles? Blunted ones got to be much safer.
"As a result of all these reasons Chinese medicine is high on demand" First off you didn't give any reasons. Secondly Chinese medicine is in high demand because many people are gullible and sick people will try anything when modern medicine fails them.
ThePsychoticnut 1 year ago
@ThePsychoticnut I never said sham needles are as good as real ones. All I said is they have an effect even when you do not insert them.
keslern 1 year ago
@keslern right but you said so in explanation of trials that show that there is no therapeutic difference between the 2.
ThePsychoticnut 1 year ago
@ThePsychoticnut You need sham in clinical trials with actual patients, not with the studies done with fMRI. And I did not say there is no therapeutic difference between them. I say that assuming Sham needles has no effect is wrong and that is an additional intervention which is against the scientific methodology. Even there is a discussion going on among MDs about "sugar" placebo pills, that the unknown chemicals within the sugar pills may have effects that is unknown to us today.
keslern 1 year ago
Respond to this video..."Chinese medicine is in high demand because many people are gullible and sick people will try anything when modern medicine fails them"
Exactly, conventional medicine fails in some cases and those patients look for other solutions and some try Chinese medicine. If it did not work, they would not continue with it and sooner or later the demand would drop down. It is increasing. So that means most of the patients experinece is not the same with your beliefs.
keslern 1 year ago
You can't say that "Chinese Medicine" is valid anyway since it is made up of hundreds maybe thousands of home remedies, each of which need to be tested independently from each other to be considered valid/invalid.
ThePsychoticnut 1 year ago
@keslern totally agree with you kerslern
chaak006 3 months ago
This is the best video on the subject of TCM I have ever seen. Thanks very much! Please make more...
itsmytch 1 year ago
Every. Day. Of. My. Life. Even while I've been living here in China. This is hilarious!
skygoing 1 year ago
This is hysterical. But some Chiropractors are Licensed Acupuncturists! I am about to be licensed.
snorfulus 1 year ago
Good for you for finishing chiropractic licensing. This is a very noble profession and great specialty. I hope you will not think that while you have had some minimal training in Acupuncture that you are an expert. Good luck in your excited field of Chiropractic.
petari05 1 year ago
I am actually in my fourth year of acupuncture school. I will assume that you will now appreciate what I've written.
snorfulus 1 year ago
P.S. I've been practicing Chiropractic for ten years. The license that I was referring to is my L.Ac.
snorfulus 1 year ago
Well done!
NewHopeAcupuncture 1 year ago
LOVE IT!! I'd love to play it in my reception area!
tracyhonour 1 year ago
Painfully true.
scompton48 1 year ago
Fabulous!
JingHealth 1 year ago
This is SO true to life, love it.
theqipapers 1 year ago
Very funny but true!!!
kwangivy 1 year ago
LMAO! Great job! Informative and hilarious! I love the bears, I've made videos with them before. Besides the iPhone one that someone made, this may be the best so far. Kudos!!!
TheStarbuccaneer 1 year ago
Hilarious video. I am acupuncturist and I get these types of questions/statements all the time. Who ever made this video...my hats off to you. Thanks for making it entertaining.
mamofilms 1 year ago
Great job, nice explanations!
TCMDirectory 1 year ago