Don't let your self be manipulated by the dark gov't, by the dark religions and superstitions.
The future lays in your hands, what kind of life you wish to live? A life of LOVE? A life of hate?
The choice is yours it has always been. We have been telling you this for thousands of years the time has come to see who has evolved spiritually enough for a higher reality where only LOVE exist. Focus on LOVE instead of hate, arrogance, religions,dogmas,etc.
Who are conserves trying to kid with their concern about the debt?They gave us 2 unfunded wars, unfunded tax cuts, a unfunded entitlement Medicare Prescript Part D which was nothing more then corporate welfare for big pharma, and tax breaks for those who need them least.They followed up with the worst recession since 1929. In 2010 they gave away the farm to extend tax breaks to the wealthy and now they want to make teachers pay for it all.Only fools would believe conserves are serious about debt
Republicans do the exact same thing its freedom of speech When politicians lie it angers me my father is a union organizer i do not like it when the republicans lie about the union and the obama adminstration unions is what keeps corporations from making the working clas working ridiculous hours, without a health plan, for an unlivable pay the recession happened because of republican policies not democratic policies. Without unions we are one step closer to a serfdom
@ZerekEX Not necessarily, Thanks for not going off your rocker, I really respect the fact you used your manners this time. I will admit, that REPS, And DEMOs have problems, you show me a system that claims to make everyone happy, and I'll show you a fairytale. I for sure agree that the Unions in theory are a way to represent the people and protect against a one sided Government, but If you think about it, Americans aren't helpless, and Our Government can't afford to run like we are.
"Guys, do any of you believe this type of stuff? I think its all posturing, they are just playing us. The democrats and republicans..Its all the same as far as I'm concerned, they are simply blinding us at this point in time with their 2 sided nonsense.
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The problem with CHINA and JOBS - we all want to buy our goods and services for less money. People buy for best quality for least amout, labor, goods, services, etc. That is why the US can not compete - the cost of US labor creates the goods and services to cost more money compared to producing goods and services in CHINA. The end user of the goods and service will pay for the product that cost the least and end user does not care where the goods and services is produced.
Yes I do understand a FLAT TAX would increase my taxes but it sure would increase it for everybody else. Actually without any deductions like it use to be you could then lower the taxes. The idea is to create a situation where entrepreneurs will want to invest and create JOBS - not GOV. You say cap paying taxes at $25,000 or whatever and anything above that would pay a percentage of whatever they received no matter what. Corp should not pay taxes only individuals.
I am for a FLAT TAX not a progressive tax. With NO DEDUCTIONS. I am for states rights and limited centralized government from DC. If you read a book call 5000 Year Miracle you will have a good understanding of what I believe. I am against being micro managed from 2000 miles from me. I am for individual rights and choices. I am for the constitution as originally written by the founding fathers. I am against pitting the rich against middle class and poor.
@redwhiteandblues You do understand that a flat tax would raise your tax rates right? I think individual taxes are fine how they are, we just need to close tax loopholes so the job- and small business-killing corporations that import everything from China pay taxes. Put the cost of a safety net on people cheating taxes now; problem solved.
If a teacher works for a Private Organization then they should have the right to strike, but working in the PUBLIC SECTOR and we as TAX PAYERS have nobody to represent us and negociate a contract that is WRONG. Concerning your redistribution of wealth ideas - that is also WRONG, why punish people who are giving jobs to people and creating even more wealth, who gives you the right to tell me or anybody else how much I can earn. That is fascism.
What this ad is about is about Public Employee Unions ripping off the middle class tax payers. This has nothing to do with Wall Street, it has nothing to do with Walmart. This is about Union Bosses getting funding through their required dues, if you do not pay Union dues you do not have a job. Ask yourself is that correct? And to pay the union dues comes from tax payer money to pay public employees. This issue has nothing to do with Unions and Private Companies. Got It?
the newly elected republican governors are pulling the same stunt all over the country: defunding public schools and social services and funneling those dollars to corporate interests & the wealthiest in their states. these scum will get theirs come election day. rnc, not even your koch-dollars will help you hide from the people's wrath.
First off this is a joke. Its slander at its best. Shame on you RNC.
Now, I honestly believe that there was a time for unions but it has since passed. The days of 80hr work weeks, child labor and dangerous work environments were diminished due to Federal laws, not Unions reps. No one in my "poor ignorant southern" family has ever belonged to a union and yet we were able to live well above average for our areas.
read the bottom first then read the top loose to unions need to be in place they balance everything out and for the state workers dont go after them ur going after urself state goverment is going to bankrupt is self and collasp so yay do something or others will not me but someone might cause scott walker does illegal actions and some poeple wont stand by they might take the law in there own hands idk who but someone might like a some massive radical
scott walker is breaking the law in wisconsin atm other republicans kick him out plz im a dem and hes breaking the the bill he just pass in the senate is nawl and void cause of the open vote law where they have to give the public 24 hrs before they vote he did not give 24 hr notice and and he supposed to give 2 hrs notice to all members of senate he gave 1 hr and 45 mins so yea boot scott walker if u dont believe do ur research if anything i see a another revotlution where repubicans are going
You do understand that democrats are GIVING him that money so that he will be elected. It's our money to give to whoever we want to win. I can't believe you republicans are buying into all this "unions are evil" crap, is it any more obvious that the rich want a bigger cut of worker pay?
@hoyt596 The ad does not say Unions are evil. Unions are fine in the PRIVATE SECTOR where businesses are producing goods and services and giving people jobs. But where conversavtives (not republicans) draw the line is in the PUBLIC SECTOR - there should never ever be collective bargaining when you are bargaining for wages and benefits and you are paying people out of tax payer money, who is going to negociate for me as a tax pay some POLITICIAN - that is not right.
@redwhiteandblues That's garbage, people have the right to collective bargaining no matter where they are or what they are doing. This isn't about politicians, this is about TEACHERS who obviously deserve what they earn. How can you justify maintaining tax cuts for people making 250,000+ dollars a year but take away the rights of teachers?
@hoyt596 So I gather you would rather have collective bargaining in the PUBLIC SECTOR and bankrupt
the states and along with the states the entire US with your progressive socialistic policies to micro manage all of us- and then you would like to tell us how much money we can earn. The problem with collective bargaining in the PUBLIC SECTOR is that you teachers have ruined the entire school system and no wonder the US scores are so low. Then you teach students to look to GOV for help.
@redwhiteandblues Look, if a bunch of people decide they don't want to work for the government because they don't pay them enough then it's their choice. You can't take away that right without waking away their freedom. If you don't want unions, you are taking away one tiny bit of freedom from your fellow countrymen.
Besides, you still havent told me why you support the tax cuts for the top paid 2% but not unions.
@newdawn177 Don't worry. The war will come again. & the south with is notorious lack of respect for educating itself will lack the intelligence to win, just as it did at Gettysburg. The march will occur again, and this time we will only leave ashes.
@newdawn177 stfu you dipshit southerner. you piece of shit fox news watching retard. fucking hope we get to finish wat sherman started, cus you fucks are way too stupid to allow to live.
wow let's not forget when republicans are in power they like to create wars plus the trillion dollars in debt when republicans were in power + by not regulating the megacorporations and oil companies. and they are so fanatically religious haha they think god is on their side. give me a break!
ok republicans... like your not going to have billion dollar campaigns while people are losing their homes -.- I cant stand republicans and their logical fallacies..
@iWantToGuitar Im sorry your first comment still dose not make sense. Obama is still having a billion dollar campaign and so are the republicans. And what dose that have to with housing? BTW i was calling YOU a moron.
@ExpressPrescription sry if my first comment was unclear, but you just said it exactly... the billion dollar campaign has nothing to do with housing... so why do the republicans bring it up in this video??? so that idiots fall for it... you figured it out but i guess my first comment was unclear
Well, it looks like the union thugs have finally received what they deserve from Wisconsin's governor. The tide has finally turned against the lard-ass pencil-pushers that bloat our government. Let's hop the 49 other governors follow his example.
Funny how they try to convince people it's the unions fault, when it's wall streets fault. Republicans wouldn't say that, because the billionaire's are their bosses.
wait aren't the republicans doing the same thing..if they had somebody to actually run for office with a good chance of being elected president then they would do the same thing in my opinion...we just need to tell wal-mart to become a moral company and not destroy american manufacturing jobs and not lay off 15,000 workers because they didn't want to "pay their health care" and then that cycle just continues..im protesting wal-mart this summer in Arnold, MO..im am going to do what I believe in.
@Blueblaha2010 Wal-mart is doing more to fight poverty than most charity. giving jobs to those who couldn't get one anywhere else. and times are tough its not because they didnt want to pay for health care its because they couldn't.
@ExpressPrescription wal-mart is a multibillion dollar company and they give the ceo's and other top people big bonuses when they could of used that money for health care for those 15,000 employees. wal-mart is china's butt buddy they all want cheap not qualtiy of goods. i would pay the extra dollar or two for the same product made in usa and or canada. thats why i shop at target when all of target made stuff is made in america and im american so i like to support the american economy.
@ExpressPrescription and if i went to wal-mart around the 4th of july and if they have any sort of american flags that are made in china i am going to buy them and keep my receipt and make a video of me showing myself buring american flags made by china even if the flag is a dollar it is still an american flag, and all american flags no matter the price should be made in america. and i will use that video to protest wal-mart cuz if they cant make an american flag in usa then i don't like them.
Where is the money for these ads coming from? The Chamber of Commerce and Karl Rove? Where are they getting it? What we need are jobs. You can cut spending forever, but if the economy is shrinking, there will never be enough cuts. That's just common sense. Why isn't this an ad on jobs? Has the GOP just given up?
@DataJackOne I believe we had a misunderstanding...I thought you were arguing that raising the Bush tax rate would be harmful. I'm a libby-lib and can't agree with you more. Where I was coming from was that the Bush tax rate (the current tax rate is 36%), and Obama wants it to be at Clinton's level at 39%, and he believes he can balance the budget at that. For myself, I wouldn't mind putting the top tax rate at Reagan's level when he left office--58%. But if 39% does the job, fine.
You have lie in the past from time to time, WE as a nation why should trust you now,remember the TEA PARTY campaing and the way you talk, peoples they paying attention What you saying and how you say it ,that why we have this situation,dont have to be youre way that why we have DNC/RNC to negociate any issues stop hurting youre peoples:
@DataJackOne The thing is what gives you the right to tell me what to watch or everyone what to watch its a free nation for me to watch it since you hate it not everyone hates it because you do. So stop the whining about Fox when the liberals have everything else on Tv for there propaganda. You need to get over yourself and let people make there own ideas instead of shouting them down.
@DataJackOne One more thing the Fox lies deal is only to shut one up without debate I tend to ignore them that is all they say and what gives you the right to regulate what I understand its democrats want to take that right from Fox news because they don't report there way.
@DataJackOne What are you saying that I don't get my facts from anywhere else I never said anything about Fox News I do watch it but I watch other sources to see what is right man you are ignorant of what I watch and don't. Like I said Fox reports and let you decide on yourself and what I seen on msm msnbc abc nbc or anyl eft wing. You also speculate a lot and that is what Liberals do and I hate that.
@DataJackOne Plus the Public schools only gets what left of the money what they government gives them I believe the big chunk of it goes to the Unions and the Union dues. My belief is and from what I seen Unions do instead of giving that money for Union dues to the school they give it to Democrats for election.
Then the cycle starts again the Democrats give them breaks like Opt out of Health Care or what they want now in Wisconsin.
@DataJackOne Again I dealt with Bullies and I hate them grammer whatever spelling whatever who cares on a computer on youtube on a comment section. The thing is you never point out what was wrong with the DC voucher program instead you went to grammer again why change the subject?
All I want to know why is there more drop out rates in Public schools and all I get is your grammer sucks. Why was the DC voucher program was killed by Obama and not expanded? Just give me a debate.
@DataJackOne So I am a joke now because I make a few spelling errors guess what no ones perfect oh by the way The drop out rate for Public schools are more then private schools. I hated the fact that Obama stopped a perfectly great program in DC because the private schools want Unionized I wish we had it in NC or better all over the country. I also hate the Hypocrite fact on Union pro democrats that no one points out. They will send there kid to a Private school yet its bad if there kids go.
@DataJackOne Guess what your wrong I was not home schooled I went to a public school so speculating is worthless to you. Since when being a Christian has to deal with Unions FDR didn't want the Unions to have power over congress and I agree with him on that. One more thing if the Unions work well with schools then why is there more drop rate in schools then Private schools?
@DataJackOne You must believe all that you get from the Zsa Zsa network that Huff Po. should be in Fantasyland. You are way out of your league . When you get your own business talk to me.
This is why lefties fail:
Theory and reality are not one in the same. What Obama is doing is out of his authority. He has overstepped his bounds. He will be impeached or voted out of office. He may be the third U.S. President Impeached.
@DataJackOne Get it through your thick skulls Public Unions don't have Bargain rights one reason they are paid by are tax payer money they work for the government. Private Unions on the other hand are free to Bargain because there not part of the government. They get there money with Union dues but is not paid for the tax payer . FDR had it right and I agree Public Unions should not have this kind of power same with private they should stay out of politics.
@DataJackOne Wow That is some real Huff Po. Media Matters Logic. You are the ultimate liar beholding to the Liar in Chief. They are not enforcing the law if they will not defend DOMA in court. You say Obama and Holder are upholding their duties to defend The Constitution by doing this. What The Brothers in Crime have done is circumvent the law of the land and made themselves the Supreme Court. So get off the Propaganda Bus. Where in their sworn Oaths does it say uphold the laws as you see fit?
Rich need to buy their kids ponies and Mustangs...god forbid a rich kid drives a Honda. And that is what is happening, rich kids are driving Hondas instead of Mustangs, and the rich are tired of taxation. Let the rich buy his kid a nice car, then we'll see about jobs. Why would we want to go back to the Clinton tax rate, the rich will have to clean their own swimming pools and that will cause pool-boys employment.
@DataJackOne They pay them out of corporate taxes, and the corporate rate is too high also. And you can't tax a country into prosperity. It's never worked. The only reason Clinton got away with it was because of fudgy accounting done in the 1990s over the value of intangible assets. Literally people had $25,000,000 in stocks for a company that had $7,000 in cash, so really the boom of the '90s was smoke and mirrors and had to end sometime.
@ManekiNeko1972 You said, "you can't tax a country into prosperity." Taxes are for sustainability, not for prosperity. 35% tax rate is not sustainable, whereas, 39% is and it is without being punishing. And it has proven itself not to be a punishing tax rate. When you look at the numbers, there is no way you can balance the budget on spending cuts alone--they have to raise the top tax bracket.
@Rattapax Another brainwashed idiot. Here's the truth: EVERYONE ELSE has cut back. Corporations, rich people, poor people have all suffered but the government, being a fat bloated pig, has gained 7 to 10% every fucking year. They need to stop the growth, and make cuts to extract all the duplicate departments. Punishing the rich when they're suffering as much as everyone else will only lead to more layoffs, more lost jobs and more ways to hide the income.
@DataJackOne And what happens TO those middle class people if they are successful? They become wealthy and then they learn about tax burdens. An increase in taxes means they have less money to give to people who they hire. Hence, hiring freezes, pay cuts and layoffs, which is exactly what's been flooding this country since 2008. Over $174,400 would be a 3% increase, and over $379,150 is an increase of an additional 4.6%. That's a lot to shoulder when you're trying to hire people.
Clearly, teacher unions are to blame for the recession--those greedy teachers who have no value to society. We must protect the rich from these teachers and their freedom to argue their value to society. Punish the teachers and protect the rich...republicanism 2.0.
@DataJackOne If they don't, then no one would have enough money to start up a company. You need people who earn money, LOTS of it, in order to start up a company and hire people. Not everyone can get a job where they suck the dick of their union reps twice a week and get paid for it. And any time you punish the rich, they'll just pass the costs onto the consumers and not hire as many people. Rich people don't take paycuts the way real working Americans do. They can fuck over the lower class.
@DataJackOne Try getting a job from someone making less than $200,000 a year, then tell me if you're successful. The people that make this country work, aside from the union people who sit around and complain if they have to make the same cuts that 90% of people in America have had to endure since 2008, are those that make over $200,000/yr. They're the ones who have enough money and resources to start businesses and hire more people. That's how this country works.
@Covertghost There was a time that unions had their use, but now they bitch if the room is 74F and it should be 75F or if they have to pay $5 a week towards health care when everyone not union gets tagged for $50 a week. The Labor unions are spoiled brats, and they drove many industries out of business. Why do you think Detroit isn't the best in the world anymore or why do you think Pittsburgh doesn't make steel anymore? Labor unions drove prices so high we can't compete with foreign markets.
@Covertghost Oh and the direct answer to your question: Hire scabs, pay them 2/3 of what the union BRATS are making, and give them enough benies that they'll enjoy working there. Not only do they save shitloads of money but they don't have to put up with whiny, obnoxious union assholes who have done nothing but turned us into a service economy. Given the unemployment rate, I can GUARANTEE you you'll find plenty of people willing to do a cushy $60K a year union job for $40K a year.
@DataJackOne I thank you for your courtesy in reply. 88% of the workforce is not unionized, many by choice of the workforce. I contend America would have been better able to compete with the Japanese car invasion if it weren't unionized. Yes, some folks would have lost jobs, but it would have allowed cities like Detroit to survive and maybe thrive. Today it is a wasteland and the jobs are nearly all gone. San Antonio now has a Toyota truck plant with good wages; good for them, but bad for Ford.
@DataJackOne I didn't know the IRS made up "imaginary Attributes" for anyone. So people like Bill Gates and Donald Trump don't create jobs? That's news to me. I can almost guarantee you that all the people who start companies and actually make America work with small businesses make over $200k a year.
If you want to pay more in taxes, be my guest but don't force it on everyone else who happens to work hard instead of being the butt buddy of the unions.
@DataJackOne one problem: Those people are the ones WHO CREATE JOBS in the private sector. Raising taxes on them when the top 10% of wage earners already pay roughly 7/10 of all the Federal Tax burden ALREADY is preposterous and the top 1% pays over 39.38% (which is anyone making over $295,495, JSYK)
. Everyone else in this shit economy has had to cut back. Asking the union workers to take the same cuts that everyone else has been forced to is fair and reasonable, period.
@DataJackOne perhaps i dont understand. But you know what ? There is alot going on that you dont understand either...none of us do because we are to busy worried about sports, ameican idol, dancing with the stars,,and alot of other bs to see whats really going on in the world. Your right about fox news,,but the same thing can be said about CNN, CSNBC, and all other meida as well..worldwide. None of them are telling the truth,,but soon we will find out,,when its to late.
@DataJackOne I was a member of the UAW and know first hand what happens to workers who get out of line. Have you been intimidated by a union rep? I have, and why? Because they wanted me to slow my productivity to "preserve jobs." Please re-read carefully what I said, which was not that teachers, secretaries, garbage collectors etc. are bad, it is their unions. Unions prevent good people from being rewarded and allow bad folks to remain on the job.
People please ignore the onslaught of GOP negative attacks (they though they could roll over teacher, after all its mostly women), scare tactics, inflammatory slander, mis-directs and hypocrisy, instead support sound just governess. Come July the GOP politicians will began to focus on their own re-election and let the president govern.
I am a union member and I agree that employee's should handle their own contributions to the Union. It should not be automaticaly deducted from our checks.
If Republicans were really worried about the deficit why did they vote for the biggest cut for the RICH in history which caused of the deficit? Why are Republicans fighting workers instead of creating JOBS?
@njudah This move was to create jobs. How ignorant do you have to be to not understand who the job creators are. There are makers, and then there are takers. It is obvious that you are a bitter, uninformed taker.
As an economics Major, it is sad to see that you too have fallen for the misguided thoughts and ideas of Keynesian economics. Counter-cyclical spending is not at all what this country needs, and it makes me sad that people still actually buy into that stuff.
@ladylordess You have your identifiers mixed up "middle class" and "elitist" do not belong in the same sentence. That's like saying those "elitist paper hat wears" at McDonalds. You are correct in stating that "we are on our way to recovery." But no thanks to the Republicans who took office in January.
@countess1900 You are partially correct, "elitist" and "middle class" SHOULD NOT be in the same sentence, but in this case it is class warfare between those who have already lost jobs and took haircuts and those have not yet, but still want MORE. It IS the middle class & poor non-union Americans who will no longer tolerate the 10-12% of greedy elitist middle class union members. WE voted in November to sweep the R's back into office, and they are doing an excellent job so far.
@ladylordess The teachers have agreed to LESS pay. By supporting Walker you have no problem with him hiding within this bill the right (his solely) to sell taxpayer property to private owner who can then change taxpayers for those services. Why did this have to be hidden within this bill??? You have no problem with the Texas Repub. writing a AR like immigration bill but excludes domestic worker only. You have no problem with 1% owning 2/3rds of Am wealth. Repub are killing the American dream.
@ladylordess Bullshit, the R's have broken so many promises. They claimed they were gonna focus on the economy first but they have went after stupid social issues for the past 4 months.
@enemy2k10 the TEA party movement is keeping the Republicans accountable. They promised to cut spending and focus on the economy. The "stupid" social issues would be the ones the president has gone after. The other "stupid" social issues, would those be budget cutting? LOL
You lose me completely when you refer to union "thugs". I did not see any "thugs" in the people protesting against Scott Walkers ramming through his proposal to destroy collective bargaining for the public sector employees. The teachers, nurses, firefighters, paramedics, electricians, etc. in Madison were clean, neat, peaceful and just standing up for their rights as Americans. What this is about is pitting private sector employees against public sector employees.
@Hellpig ha-ha. That is so funny. You don't even know me but you put me in a category. Anytime people do not agree wth a righty they are called "socialist, communist, nazi" or anything else to demonize someone who differs from their very narrow viewpoint. The good news is that in poll after poll Americans express more sympathy for the union protestors than for Gov. Walker.
Unions use thuggery to stay in power, and who are they intimidating? Taxpayers! Democrats have sold their souls to these thugs. Shame on them! Unions are parasites and could care less that our country is sinking in debt.
Yes, a Massachusetts Democrat named Mike Capuano spoke to a mob of public employee union thugs rallying in Boston and actually told them to “get a little bloody.”
Yes, a Wisconsin Democrat named Gordon Hintz actually told a female colleague “You are fucking dead” after her vote supporting Governor Scott Walker.
Maybe these Democrats were just following Obama’s latest marching orders...
...or maybe they were just acting alone. Either way, so much for their call for civility!
No more collective bargaining for State government employees. The taxpayers can't afford these sweet heart deals that allow bad workers to keep their job and good workers to not get paid what they deserve. It is a conflict of interest to force taxpayers to pay for union dues that overwhelmingly go to one government parties campaign. It is just wrong.
This GOP governor in his bill, REMOVED the income CAPS of $33,000 or under a year, so RICH people can get $3,800 VOUCHERS to pay for their kids PRIVATE schools.
How nice. Kickbacks given to the RICH paid for by the TAXPAYERS, while cutting 900 million from Public Schools, so the middle class and poor TAXPAYERS can send their kids to classes of 50-100 kids for warehousing and babysitting services.
Typical Republican union hating rhetoric. They want to abolish the unions so that they can privatize everything thereby making it impossible for ordinary people to have any input on costs. Republicans love to cut programs for everyone except their wealthy campaign contributors. It was the corporations that eliminated the private sector pensions and push for 401k's but many businesses are eliminating them too.
@trublulu3 No one wants to abolish unions. Unions in the private sector can be competitive but in the public sector they are not and taxpayers are on the hook for all these sweet heart deals made by one party to get votes. It is unfair to taxpayers to be forced to contribute to political campaigns of one party through taxes. Lets turn it around. How would you like it if as a taxpayer to be forced to pay union dues through your state taxes that go to the republican party only?
@trublulu3 Also in many states these collective bargaining deals keep bad teachers teaching while good teachers are not being accredited for the superior performance. In NY there are over 700 teachers being paid to do nothing because they can't be fired. Some have been collecting full salaries for over two years and have not stepped foot in a classroom. Its your money how do you feel about that?
@d1sn3yg1r132 The corporation will take care of you. Your fellow workers are your enemy. Teachers, are the enemy. Nurses are the enemy. The corporation will take car of you.
My favorite part of that was when someone in the background was holding up a sign asking "Why do Republicans hate people?" All of the ridiculous Republican bullshit that came along with it was funny too, but that moment was priceless.
@ericzum Is that why more Democrats in congress are millionaires than Republicans? Don't get me wrong, both parties have screwed this country up and both parties are responsible, except for 2009-10 when the Republicans were completely powerless to do anything at all, but be careful with blanket statements like that, because finger pointing doesn't solve anything, and it often is the pot calling the kettle black.
@jimmydore No, because both sides have been fucking this country up for years. We're spending more on entitlements and interest on the debt than we take in in revenues (that excludes defense or income security) and the cuts gotta come in from somewhere since an increasing number of people can't pay them. And the Democrats wouldn't know how to tell the truth if their lives depended on it. The last one that did was Mondale and look what happened to him. The right lies 99% of the time also.
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. They are coming for the paupers, but you don't think your a pauper... Who will speek for you if you won't speek up for your brothers???
GOP just want to kill American working class, 16 hour work schedule is back in many companies, no extra compensation. if you speak you get fired. Yes this is American prosperity.
@jp3711nc1 You can trace the trillions of debt back to Reagan/Bush/Bush2.0; not to the Dems.
You cry about Obama's stimulus plan...when anyone with an introductory course in Economics will tell you a Recession is EXACTLY when the Government should be spending. Not like Reagan's unprecedented spending....
If you GOP minions had any sense at all, you'd see it's not the Left that's spending you into the poorhouse....
@123iii123iii what ever Reagan Bush blah blah blah but Obama budgets are triple what you say there was 4.1 trillion yet no complaining from you and Democrats been in power since 2008 with in power in Reagan term as well and congress only can make bills like this. oh by the way I am not a GOP hack I point out what is there and think for my self unlike you.
Democrats-People that are funded by groups of workers in Unions paid by YOUR tax dollars.
Republicans-People that are funded by billionaires who own large companies.
Politics these days are stupid. Both sides abuse freedom of the press, and think they have the right to lie. Both sides use tactics to get around the limited donations. Republicans aren't better than Democrats, and vice versa. Once everyone wakes up and smells the coffee, People will realize
In other words, the GOP is not about jobs, jobs, jobs and Wisconsin isn't about the economy... its just about getting their candidate elected in 2012... NICE ! ! !
It is ok for corporations and business people to form associations to try to influence the government for their interest but not working people? This economic mess was not caused by working folks but by shady corporations and business people.
You people who love Reagan so much, well, here are his tax rates: "The share of the income tax burden borne by the top 10 percent of taxpayers increased from 48.0 percent in 1981 to 57.2 percent in 1988. Meanwhile, the share of income taxes paid by the bottom 50 percent of taxpayers dropped from 7.5 percent in 1981 to 5.7 percent in 1988."
So, lets see. Republicans kiss the ass of corporations, let them form behind the U.S,. chamber of commerce, let the righty fascists on the Sypreme court declare corporations people...then, let every corporation in the U.S., and abroad buy our elections with their billions.
I'll take good old American Union money any day.
This is the kind of crap you'll find on a Fox news/Beck youtube spot.
@172677 You tell em Snookie. Your Jersey Shore intellect always puts the idiot's perspective on every issue.
Maybe Barry can decide if the States have the Constitutional Right to exist. He picks and chooses the laws to enforce maybe he can get his SS to arrest the Governors. You gotta love the left,
@172677 Unions spent more than corporations in the last election cycle (opensecrets) but don't let that fact stop you. Typical lefty. Can't debate so out comes the race card because now pointing out facts is also racist. Idiot!
@NCMan28025 Unions are made up of individual AMERICAN workers, who live here, work here,raise families here. They are "we, the people". Membership is voluntary, dues are paid individually, decisions are made by vote International corporations and domestic conglomerates are none of these. The only decision making is done by the bosses...and those decisions don't go much beyond which politician they can buy and how much it will cost them.
So, is Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC racist or stupid when he says it sounds racist to him to call the leaders of the unions Union Bosses and say "stop Obama and his Union Bosses"?
Aside from the fact that Union Bosses means leaders of the unions, Larry thinks the ad says the POTUS has bosses because he is black.
Um, 43 POTUSs before B.Obama had bosses. They're called voters.
The POTUS is elected and serves at the pleasure of the people. We, the People, are the POTUS's boss. No racism
Oh my, teachers made this economic mess! It wasn't the bank bailouts, federal overspending, foreign aid, oversized military budgets, or fighting the "War on Terror" for nearly a decade.....
It's going to be a quick ending to the United States if we'd rather pay for bombs and banks rather than education.
@CATTESTONE ehhhh wrong..Happily married living in the middle class life with a beautiful daughter. Paying 19% of my pay to health insurance AND paying for your job and you benefits and your health insurance .How about instead of twirling signs, you all hold out hats and beg for more of my money. Do whatever you want cuz the bill will pass.Unfortunately for you this is America not Egypt.Democracy,it's amazing.Remember Pelosi and the big gavel?I hope Walker shows the same maturity. LOL
@orlandodolphin , If you really live in Orlando you know how little most people here get paid. Could someone on 30k a year (most full time jobs in Orlando) pay for their health care ? Don't be a dolt. This is an effort to divide public and private workers. We really are in the same boat.
to all those who believe in these unions and who are protesting, you need to watch this video on youtube, the title is "" I told you we could prove sorros obama and the communists of america were behind the protest"" watch that video and do the research and see for yourself that this is all planned to bring america down. These protesters are just falling into the trap that they are setting.
READ THE DAMN BILL - IT IS ON WEB IT GIVES NAZI POWER TO COLLEGE FLUNK OUT WALKER- (HIS HIGHEST GRADE WAS A "C" - GET WHY HE HATES TEACHERS?) iT GIVES HIM THE POWER TO KILL SENIOR CARE AND TO GIVE THE KOCH BROTHERS A NO BID CONTRACT TO TAKE OVER WI'S ENERGY
SEND THE NAZI PACKING WITH A RECALL AND THEN MAYBE THE REPUBLICUNTS WILL GET THE MESSAGE THEY SERVE US NOT HELP THEMSELVES TO OUR MONEY!!!!!!!
the unions are the ones pulling obamas strings, he is the epitome of a empty suit----TO HELL WITH THE GREEDY UNIONS ,WE HAVE NOTHING LEFT FOR YOU TO STEAL
@100crawma Yeh fuck thoses American workers yeh fuck those VETs fuck America
FUCK AMERICAN VETS FUCK AMERICAN WORKERS FUCK AMERICA
LET THE WORKERS WORK FOR THE WAGES AS INDIA, CHINA AND KOREA
FUCK AMERICAN VETS - THEY THINK THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPENSATED FOR THEIR BRAVERY FUCK YOU WHORE FOR YOU RACIST IDIOTIC COMMENTS 100 CRAWLING WHORES
I laugh at posts that say"I'm Conservative, but obama is great!!" or "I'm a decorated combat vet, but obama is great and the military sucks!" LMFAO!!
How about this, I'm a stupid, flaming liberal douchebag, and even I can see that obama is a horriblr president. Either he's clueless OR he wants the USA to be "Changed" for the worse.
@stopgapflop I ***love*** those comments. "I was a Republican for 60 yeas but when that Ronald Reagan came into office, that was just the last straw" LOL
Yes Obama is a terrible president but you quacks who say he should be impeached are saying that out of spite and nothing else. President Obama has committed no crime that I've heard of. I am more conservative than any of you, but I am not biased. These calls for impeachment are totally biased. We ought to strive to be truthful.
@AwohaliSagwu Moral relativism is always a fallacy. You only say these things (#3,4) because it's easier to blame everyone rather than sort out the specifics and form honest opinions. It's better to be informed than it is to be lazy. Don't be lazy and give in to absolutes. Cheers.
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Lightw0rker777 4 weeks ago
State Budget's have run dry? OK, but the fresh GOP governors who replaced some former DNC ones dried them up even more ever since, if I can recall.
darwincity 7 months ago
BO's evil Leftist Army WILL be defeated in 2012!
Halftrac 10 months ago
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Fuck the UNIONs and fuck OBAMA!
UCSDEngineerDoctor 10 months ago
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Fuck the UNIONS and fuck OBAMA!
UCSDEngineerDoctor 10 months ago
Who are conserves trying to kid with their concern about the debt?They gave us 2 unfunded wars, unfunded tax cuts, a unfunded entitlement Medicare Prescript Part D which was nothing more then corporate welfare for big pharma, and tax breaks for those who need them least.They followed up with the worst recession since 1929. In 2010 they gave away the farm to extend tax breaks to the wealthy and now they want to make teachers pay for it all.Only fools would believe conserves are serious about debt
urparanoia 10 months ago
go fuck ur self u republican assholes
do not bullshit the people
ZerekEX 11 months ago
@ZerekEX ha! Typical Democrat, attacking someone else who disagrees with themselves. Why don't you say something credible next time!
ZachariahLogan 11 months ago
@ZachariahLogan Haha, i'm independent, and I agree with you!
ben100014 11 months ago
Republicans do the exact same thing its freedom of speech When politicians lie it angers me my father is a union organizer i do not like it when the republicans lie about the union and the obama adminstration unions is what keeps corporations from making the working clas working ridiculous hours, without a health plan, for an unlivable pay the recession happened because of republican policies not democratic policies. Without unions we are one step closer to a serfdom
PS i am a socialist
ZerekEX 11 months ago
@ZerekEX Not necessarily, Thanks for not going off your rocker, I really respect the fact you used your manners this time. I will admit, that REPS, And DEMOs have problems, you show me a system that claims to make everyone happy, and I'll show you a fairytale. I for sure agree that the Unions in theory are a way to represent the people and protect against a one sided Government, but If you think about it, Americans aren't helpless, and Our Government can't afford to run like we are.
ZachariahLogan 11 months ago
this ad doesn't even make any sense.
mctape 11 months ago
"Guys, do any of you believe this type of stuff? I think its all posturing, they are just playing us. The democrats and republicans..Its all the same as far as I'm concerned, they are simply blinding us at this point in time with their 2 sided nonsense.
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addiebauneww 11 months ago 9
WTH?? OBAMA isnt great but its not the democrats cutting spending for teacher..this is just plain lyes
jordanmcddd 11 months ago
What a bunch of bullshit this ad is. Republicans only care about rich people.
ericzum 11 months ago
Trump 2012! Anti-abortion, anti-gun control, and most importantly, anti-China.
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pirateshavana 11 months ago
The problem with CHINA and JOBS - we all want to buy our goods and services for less money. People buy for best quality for least amout, labor, goods, services, etc. That is why the US can not compete - the cost of US labor creates the goods and services to cost more money compared to producing goods and services in CHINA. The end user of the goods and service will pay for the product that cost the least and end user does not care where the goods and services is produced.
redwhiteandblues 11 months ago
Yes I do understand a FLAT TAX would increase my taxes but it sure would increase it for everybody else. Actually without any deductions like it use to be you could then lower the taxes. The idea is to create a situation where entrepreneurs will want to invest and create JOBS - not GOV. You say cap paying taxes at $25,000 or whatever and anything above that would pay a percentage of whatever they received no matter what. Corp should not pay taxes only individuals.
redwhiteandblues 11 months ago
FYI, Politifact,com (a nonpartisan watchdog) rated the $400 million contribution from unions claim false
mustachecrossing 11 months ago
I am for a FLAT TAX not a progressive tax. With NO DEDUCTIONS. I am for states rights and limited centralized government from DC. If you read a book call 5000 Year Miracle you will have a good understanding of what I believe. I am against being micro managed from 2000 miles from me. I am for individual rights and choices. I am for the constitution as originally written by the founding fathers. I am against pitting the rich against middle class and poor.
redwhiteandblues 11 months ago
@redwhiteandblues You do understand that a flat tax would raise your tax rates right? I think individual taxes are fine how they are, we just need to close tax loopholes so the job- and small business-killing corporations that import everything from China pay taxes. Put the cost of a safety net on people cheating taxes now; problem solved.
mustachecrossing 11 months ago
If a teacher works for a Private Organization then they should have the right to strike, but working in the PUBLIC SECTOR and we as TAX PAYERS have nobody to represent us and negociate a contract that is WRONG. Concerning your redistribution of wealth ideas - that is also WRONG, why punish people who are giving jobs to people and creating even more wealth, who gives you the right to tell me or anybody else how much I can earn. That is fascism.
redwhiteandblues 11 months ago
Let's remember one thing about those dues. It may come from"taxpayer" money bit it's money I EARN and I'll spend it where I like!
ems032470 11 months ago
What this ad is about is about Public Employee Unions ripping off the middle class tax payers. This has nothing to do with Wall Street, it has nothing to do with Walmart. This is about Union Bosses getting funding through their required dues, if you do not pay Union dues you do not have a job. Ask yourself is that correct? And to pay the union dues comes from tax payer money to pay public employees. This issue has nothing to do with Unions and Private Companies. Got It?
redwhiteandblues 11 months ago
the newly elected republican governors are pulling the same stunt all over the country: defunding public schools and social services and funneling those dollars to corporate interests & the wealthiest in their states. these scum will get theirs come election day. rnc, not even your koch-dollars will help you hide from the people's wrath.
5ken7 11 months ago 3
First off this is a joke. Its slander at its best. Shame on you RNC.
Now, I honestly believe that there was a time for unions but it has since passed. The days of 80hr work weeks, child labor and dangerous work environments were diminished due to Federal laws, not Unions reps. No one in my "poor ignorant southern" family has ever belonged to a union and yet we were able to live well above average for our areas.
1BadGN 11 months ago 2
read the bottom first then read the top loose to unions need to be in place they balance everything out and for the state workers dont go after them ur going after urself state goverment is going to bankrupt is self and collasp so yay do something or others will not me but someone might cause scott walker does illegal actions and some poeple wont stand by they might take the law in there own hands idk who but someone might like a some massive radical
cats4456 11 months ago
scott walker is breaking the law in wisconsin atm other republicans kick him out plz im a dem and hes breaking the the bill he just pass in the senate is nawl and void cause of the open vote law where they have to give the public 24 hrs before they vote he did not give 24 hr notice and and he supposed to give 2 hrs notice to all members of senate he gave 1 hr and 45 mins so yea boot scott walker if u dont believe do ur research if anything i see a another revotlution where repubicans are going
cats4456 11 months ago
You do understand that democrats are GIVING him that money so that he will be elected. It's our money to give to whoever we want to win. I can't believe you republicans are buying into all this "unions are evil" crap, is it any more obvious that the rich want a bigger cut of worker pay?
hoyt596 11 months ago 3
@hoyt596 The ad does not say Unions are evil. Unions are fine in the PRIVATE SECTOR where businesses are producing goods and services and giving people jobs. But where conversavtives (not republicans) draw the line is in the PUBLIC SECTOR - there should never ever be collective bargaining when you are bargaining for wages and benefits and you are paying people out of tax payer money, who is going to negociate for me as a tax pay some POLITICIAN - that is not right.
redwhiteandblues 11 months ago
@redwhiteandblues That's garbage, people have the right to collective bargaining no matter where they are or what they are doing. This isn't about politicians, this is about TEACHERS who obviously deserve what they earn. How can you justify maintaining tax cuts for people making 250,000+ dollars a year but take away the rights of teachers?
hoyt596 11 months ago
@hoyt596 So I gather you would rather have collective bargaining in the PUBLIC SECTOR and bankrupt
the states and along with the states the entire US with your progressive socialistic policies to micro manage all of us- and then you would like to tell us how much money we can earn. The problem with collective bargaining in the PUBLIC SECTOR is that you teachers have ruined the entire school system and no wonder the US scores are so low. Then you teach students to look to GOV for help.
redwhiteandblues 11 months ago
@redwhiteandblues Look, if a bunch of people decide they don't want to work for the government because they don't pay them enough then it's their choice. You can't take away that right without waking away their freedom. If you don't want unions, you are taking away one tiny bit of freedom from your fellow countrymen.
Besides, you still havent told me why you support the tax cuts for the top paid 2% but not unions.
hoyt596 11 months ago
@newdawn177 Don't worry. The war will come again. & the south with is notorious lack of respect for educating itself will lack the intelligence to win, just as it did at Gettysburg. The march will occur again, and this time we will only leave ashes.
SOSTacoJohnson 11 months ago
@newdawn177 stfu you dipshit southerner. you piece of shit fox news watching retard. fucking hope we get to finish wat sherman started, cus you fucks are way too stupid to allow to live.
SOSTacoJohnson 11 months ago
stfu propaganda fags
SOSTacoJohnson 11 months ago
wow let's not forget when republicans are in power they like to create wars plus the trillion dollars in debt when republicans were in power + by not regulating the megacorporations and oil companies. and they are so fanatically religious haha they think god is on their side. give me a break!
elkritikador 11 months ago
@elkritikador Obviously, they are not smart, but unfortunately, they ARE very greedy. A nasty, terrible mix.
UltimateWheelman 11 months ago
This is why we should never elect a democrat for President. If we had a Republican president right now, things would be so much different.
UnixLinuxWaffles 11 months ago
ok republicans... like your not going to have billion dollar campaigns while people are losing their homes -.- I cant stand republicans and their logical fallacies..
iWantToGuitar 11 months ago
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so you think that a billion dollars is going to magically stop the housing crisis. This stuff takes time to fix. Moron
ExpressPrescription 11 months ago
@ExpressPrescription ok Moron... 0:02 ... im pretty sure the republicans are inferring what you just called Moronic....
iWantToGuitar 11 months ago
@iWantToGuitar Im sorry your first comment still dose not make sense. Obama is still having a billion dollar campaign and so are the republicans. And what dose that have to with housing? BTW i was calling YOU a moron.
ExpressPrescription 10 months ago
@ExpressPrescription sry if my first comment was unclear, but you just said it exactly... the billion dollar campaign has nothing to do with housing... so why do the republicans bring it up in this video??? so that idiots fall for it... you figured it out but i guess my first comment was unclear
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so you think that a billion dollars is going to magically stop the housing crisis. This stuff takes time to fix. Moron
ExpressPrescription 11 months ago
Well, it looks like the union thugs have finally received what they deserve from Wisconsin's governor. The tide has finally turned against the lard-ass pencil-pushers that bloat our government. Let's hop the 49 other governors follow his example.
forrestgop2000 11 months ago
Funny how they try to convince people it's the unions fault, when it's wall streets fault. Republicans wouldn't say that, because the billionaire's are their bosses.
Utopor 11 months ago 9
wait aren't the republicans doing the same thing..if they had somebody to actually run for office with a good chance of being elected president then they would do the same thing in my opinion...we just need to tell wal-mart to become a moral company and not destroy american manufacturing jobs and not lay off 15,000 workers because they didn't want to "pay their health care" and then that cycle just continues..im protesting wal-mart this summer in Arnold, MO..im am going to do what I believe in.
Blueblaha2010 11 months ago 7
@Blueblaha2010 Wal-mart is doing more to fight poverty than most charity. giving jobs to those who couldn't get one anywhere else. and times are tough its not because they didnt want to pay for health care its because they couldn't.
ExpressPrescription 11 months ago
@ExpressPrescription wal-mart is a multibillion dollar company and they give the ceo's and other top people big bonuses when they could of used that money for health care for those 15,000 employees. wal-mart is china's butt buddy they all want cheap not qualtiy of goods. i would pay the extra dollar or two for the same product made in usa and or canada. thats why i shop at target when all of target made stuff is made in america and im american so i like to support the american economy.
Blueblaha2010 11 months ago
@ExpressPrescription and if i went to wal-mart around the 4th of july and if they have any sort of american flags that are made in china i am going to buy them and keep my receipt and make a video of me showing myself buring american flags made by china even if the flag is a dollar it is still an american flag, and all american flags no matter the price should be made in america. and i will use that video to protest wal-mart cuz if they cant make an american flag in usa then i don't like them.
Blueblaha2010 11 months ago
Where is the money for these ads coming from? The Chamber of Commerce and Karl Rove? Where are they getting it? What we need are jobs. You can cut spending forever, but if the economy is shrinking, there will never be enough cuts. That's just common sense. Why isn't this an ad on jobs? Has the GOP just given up?
donatord 11 months ago
@DataJackOne I believe we had a misunderstanding...I thought you were arguing that raising the Bush tax rate would be harmful. I'm a libby-lib and can't agree with you more. Where I was coming from was that the Bush tax rate (the current tax rate is 36%), and Obama wants it to be at Clinton's level at 39%, and he believes he can balance the budget at that. For myself, I wouldn't mind putting the top tax rate at Reagan's level when he left office--58%. But if 39% does the job, fine.
Rattapax 11 months ago
you people are shameless. how about make corporations pay the taxes that they owe and stop bleeding the middle and lower classes dry.
baryshnicow 11 months ago
You have lie in the past from time to time, WE as a nation why should trust you now,remember the TEA PARTY campaing and the way you talk, peoples they paying attention What you saying and how you say it ,that why we have this situation,dont have to be youre way that why we have DNC/RNC to negociate any issues stop hurting youre peoples:
madisvaldez 11 months ago
@DataJackOne The thing is what gives you the right to tell me what to watch or everyone what to watch its a free nation for me to watch it since you hate it not everyone hates it because you do. So stop the whining about Fox when the liberals have everything else on Tv for there propaganda. You need to get over yourself and let people make there own ideas instead of shouting them down.
jp3711nc1 11 months ago
@DataJackOne One more thing the Fox lies deal is only to shut one up without debate I tend to ignore them that is all they say and what gives you the right to regulate what I understand its democrats want to take that right from Fox news because they don't report there way.
jp3711nc1 11 months ago
@DataJackOne What are you saying that I don't get my facts from anywhere else I never said anything about Fox News I do watch it but I watch other sources to see what is right man you are ignorant of what I watch and don't. Like I said Fox reports and let you decide on yourself and what I seen on msm msnbc abc nbc or anyl eft wing. You also speculate a lot and that is what Liberals do and I hate that.
jp3711nc1 11 months ago
Just more read meat for the party to eat itself alive... keep it up RNC, we'll be better off without you.
wiredcoder 11 months ago
@DataJackOne Plus the Public schools only gets what left of the money what they government gives them I believe the big chunk of it goes to the Unions and the Union dues. My belief is and from what I seen Unions do instead of giving that money for Union dues to the school they give it to Democrats for election.
Then the cycle starts again the Democrats give them breaks like Opt out of Health Care or what they want now in Wisconsin.
jp3711nc1 11 months ago
@DataJackOne Again I dealt with Bullies and I hate them grammer whatever spelling whatever who cares on a computer on youtube on a comment section. The thing is you never point out what was wrong with the DC voucher program instead you went to grammer again why change the subject?
All I want to know why is there more drop out rates in Public schools and all I get is your grammer sucks. Why was the DC voucher program was killed by Obama and not expanded? Just give me a debate.
jp3711nc1 11 months ago
@DataJackOne So I am a joke now because I make a few spelling errors guess what no ones perfect oh by the way The drop out rate for Public schools are more then private schools. I hated the fact that Obama stopped a perfectly great program in DC because the private schools want Unionized I wish we had it in NC or better all over the country. I also hate the Hypocrite fact on Union pro democrats that no one points out. They will send there kid to a Private school yet its bad if there kids go.
jp3711nc1 11 months ago
@DataJackOne Guess what your wrong I was not home schooled I went to a public school so speculating is worthless to you. Since when being a Christian has to deal with Unions FDR didn't want the Unions to have power over congress and I agree with him on that. One more thing if the Unions work well with schools then why is there more drop rate in schools then Private schools?
jp3711nc1 11 months ago
@DataJackOne You must believe all that you get from the Zsa Zsa network that Huff Po. should be in Fantasyland. You are way out of your league . When you get your own business talk to me.
This is why lefties fail:
Theory and reality are not one in the same. What Obama is doing is out of his authority. He has overstepped his bounds. He will be impeached or voted out of office. He may be the third U.S. President Impeached.
mueygringo 11 months ago
@DataJackOne Get it through your thick skulls Public Unions don't have Bargain rights one reason they are paid by are tax payer money they work for the government. Private Unions on the other hand are free to Bargain because there not part of the government. They get there money with Union dues but is not paid for the tax payer . FDR had it right and I agree Public Unions should not have this kind of power same with private they should stay out of politics.
jp3711nc1 11 months ago
@DataJackOne Wow That is some real Huff Po. Media Matters Logic. You are the ultimate liar beholding to the Liar in Chief. They are not enforcing the law if they will not defend DOMA in court. You say Obama and Holder are upholding their duties to defend The Constitution by doing this. What The Brothers in Crime have done is circumvent the law of the land and made themselves the Supreme Court. So get off the Propaganda Bus. Where in their sworn Oaths does it say uphold the laws as you see fit?
mueygringo 11 months ago
Rich need to buy their kids ponies and Mustangs...god forbid a rich kid drives a Honda. And that is what is happening, rich kids are driving Hondas instead of Mustangs, and the rich are tired of taxation. Let the rich buy his kid a nice car, then we'll see about jobs. Why would we want to go back to the Clinton tax rate, the rich will have to clean their own swimming pools and that will cause pool-boys employment.
Rattapax 11 months ago
@DataJackOne They pay them out of corporate taxes, and the corporate rate is too high also. And you can't tax a country into prosperity. It's never worked. The only reason Clinton got away with it was because of fudgy accounting done in the 1990s over the value of intangible assets. Literally people had $25,000,000 in stocks for a company that had $7,000 in cash, so really the boom of the '90s was smoke and mirrors and had to end sometime.
ManekiNeko1972 11 months ago
@ManekiNeko1972 You said, "you can't tax a country into prosperity." Taxes are for sustainability, not for prosperity. 35% tax rate is not sustainable, whereas, 39% is and it is without being punishing. And it has proven itself not to be a punishing tax rate. When you look at the numbers, there is no way you can balance the budget on spending cuts alone--they have to raise the top tax bracket.
Rattapax 11 months ago
@Rattapax Another brainwashed idiot. Here's the truth: EVERYONE ELSE has cut back. Corporations, rich people, poor people have all suffered but the government, being a fat bloated pig, has gained 7 to 10% every fucking year. They need to stop the growth, and make cuts to extract all the duplicate departments. Punishing the rich when they're suffering as much as everyone else will only lead to more layoffs, more lost jobs and more ways to hide the income.
ManekiNeko1972 11 months ago
@DataJackOne And what happens TO those middle class people if they are successful? They become wealthy and then they learn about tax burdens. An increase in taxes means they have less money to give to people who they hire. Hence, hiring freezes, pay cuts and layoffs, which is exactly what's been flooding this country since 2008. Over $174,400 would be a 3% increase, and over $379,150 is an increase of an additional 4.6%. That's a lot to shoulder when you're trying to hire people.
ManekiNeko1972 11 months ago
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Clearly, teacher unions are to blame for the recession--those greedy teachers who have no value to society. We must protect the rich from these teachers and their freedom to argue their value to society. Punish the teachers and protect the rich...republicanism 2.0.
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Rattapax 11 months ago
@DataJackOne If they don't, then no one would have enough money to start up a company. You need people who earn money, LOTS of it, in order to start up a company and hire people. Not everyone can get a job where they suck the dick of their union reps twice a week and get paid for it. And any time you punish the rich, they'll just pass the costs onto the consumers and not hire as many people. Rich people don't take paycuts the way real working Americans do. They can fuck over the lower class.
ManekiNeko1972 11 months ago
@DataJackOne Try getting a job from someone making less than $200,000 a year, then tell me if you're successful. The people that make this country work, aside from the union people who sit around and complain if they have to make the same cuts that 90% of people in America have had to endure since 2008, are those that make over $200,000/yr. They're the ones who have enough money and resources to start businesses and hire more people. That's how this country works.
ManekiNeko1972 11 months ago
@ManekiNeko1972 Tell me how well those making $200,000+/yr make the country work after a general strike.
Covertghost 11 months ago
@Covertghost There was a time that unions had their use, but now they bitch if the room is 74F and it should be 75F or if they have to pay $5 a week towards health care when everyone not union gets tagged for $50 a week. The Labor unions are spoiled brats, and they drove many industries out of business. Why do you think Detroit isn't the best in the world anymore or why do you think Pittsburgh doesn't make steel anymore? Labor unions drove prices so high we can't compete with foreign markets.
ManekiNeko1972 11 months ago
@Covertghost Oh and the direct answer to your question: Hire scabs, pay them 2/3 of what the union BRATS are making, and give them enough benies that they'll enjoy working there. Not only do they save shitloads of money but they don't have to put up with whiny, obnoxious union assholes who have done nothing but turned us into a service economy. Given the unemployment rate, I can GUARANTEE you you'll find plenty of people willing to do a cushy $60K a year union job for $40K a year.
Checkmate!
ManekiNeko1972 11 months ago
@DataJackOne I thank you for your courtesy in reply. 88% of the workforce is not unionized, many by choice of the workforce. I contend America would have been better able to compete with the Japanese car invasion if it weren't unionized. Yes, some folks would have lost jobs, but it would have allowed cities like Detroit to survive and maybe thrive. Today it is a wasteland and the jobs are nearly all gone. San Antonio now has a Toyota truck plant with good wages; good for them, but bad for Ford.
satxusa 11 months ago
@DataJackOne I didn't know the IRS made up "imaginary Attributes" for anyone. So people like Bill Gates and Donald Trump don't create jobs? That's news to me. I can almost guarantee you that all the people who start companies and actually make America work with small businesses make over $200k a year.
If you want to pay more in taxes, be my guest but don't force it on everyone else who happens to work hard instead of being the butt buddy of the unions.
ManekiNeko1972 11 months ago
@DataJackOne one problem: Those people are the ones WHO CREATE JOBS in the private sector. Raising taxes on them when the top 10% of wage earners already pay roughly 7/10 of all the Federal Tax burden ALREADY is preposterous and the top 1% pays over 39.38% (which is anyone making over $295,495, JSYK)
. Everyone else in this shit economy has had to cut back. Asking the union workers to take the same cuts that everyone else has been forced to is fair and reasonable, period.
ManekiNeko1972 11 months ago
@DataJackOne perhaps i dont understand. But you know what ? There is alot going on that you dont understand either...none of us do because we are to busy worried about sports, ameican idol, dancing with the stars,,and alot of other bs to see whats really going on in the world. Your right about fox news,,but the same thing can be said about CNN, CSNBC, and all other meida as well..worldwide. None of them are telling the truth,,but soon we will find out,,when its to late.
cherokeedoll1 11 months ago
@DataJackOne I was a member of the UAW and know first hand what happens to workers who get out of line. Have you been intimidated by a union rep? I have, and why? Because they wanted me to slow my productivity to "preserve jobs." Please re-read carefully what I said, which was not that teachers, secretaries, garbage collectors etc. are bad, it is their unions. Unions prevent good people from being rewarded and allow bad folks to remain on the job.
satxusa 11 months ago
unions are getting a waiver to opt out of obama care, where is the rest of our waivers to opt out of obamacare??
100crawma 11 months ago
People please ignore the onslaught of GOP negative attacks (they though they could roll over teacher, after all its mostly women), scare tactics, inflammatory slander, mis-directs and hypocrisy, instead support sound just governess. Come July the GOP politicians will began to focus on their own re-election and let the president govern.
BY CHRISTMAS THE ECONOMY WILL BE BOOMING.
countess1900 11 months ago
@countess1900 By Christmas the economy will be even worse, the way we going attacking all the midleclass worker, good luck:
madisvaldez 11 months ago
I am a union member and I agree that employee's should handle their own contributions to the Union. It should not be automaticaly deducted from our checks.
mssedmebich 11 months ago
If Republicans were really worried about the deficit why did they vote for the biggest cut for the RICH in history which caused of the deficit? Why are Republicans fighting workers instead of creating JOBS?
njudah 11 months ago
@njudah This move was to create jobs. How ignorant do you have to be to not understand who the job creators are. There are makers, and then there are takers. It is obvious that you are a bitter, uninformed taker.
ladylordess 11 months ago 2
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@123iii123iii
As an economics Major, it is sad to see that you too have fallen for the misguided thoughts and ideas of Keynesian economics. Counter-cyclical spending is not at all what this country needs, and it makes me sad that people still actually buy into that stuff.
woodstock1400 11 months ago
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woodstock1400 11 months ago
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READ THE DAMNED BILL: FUCK KOCK SUCKING WALKER
16.896 Sale or contractual operation of state−owned heating, cooling,
and power plants. (1) Notwithstanding ss. 13.48 (14) (am) and 16.705 (1), the
department may sell any state−owned heating, cooling, and power plant or may
contract with a private entity for the operation of any such plant, with or without
solicitation of bids, for any amount that the department determines to be in the best
interest of the state
justonefirefly1 11 months ago
How would the Dems like it if their tax dollars went to pay union dues that were used for republicans campaigns?
quizerry 11 months ago
@quizerry -- oh, that's funny! they'ed be all freaking out!
the82spartans 11 months ago
Middle class America who are nonunion are no longer supporting the middle class elitist union member.
We voted in November for this to happen. Now it is. We are on our way to recovery, step 1.
ladylordess 11 months ago
@ladylordess You have your identifiers mixed up "middle class" and "elitist" do not belong in the same sentence. That's like saying those "elitist paper hat wears" at McDonalds. You are correct in stating that "we are on our way to recovery." But no thanks to the Republicans who took office in January.
countess1900 11 months ago
@countess1900 You are partially correct, "elitist" and "middle class" SHOULD NOT be in the same sentence, but in this case it is class warfare between those who have already lost jobs and took haircuts and those have not yet, but still want MORE. It IS the middle class & poor non-union Americans who will no longer tolerate the 10-12% of greedy elitist middle class union members. WE voted in November to sweep the R's back into office, and they are doing an excellent job so far.
ladylordess 11 months ago
@ladylordess The teachers have agreed to LESS pay. By supporting Walker you have no problem with him hiding within this bill the right (his solely) to sell taxpayer property to private owner who can then change taxpayers for those services. Why did this have to be hidden within this bill??? You have no problem with the Texas Repub. writing a AR like immigration bill but excludes domestic worker only. You have no problem with 1% owning 2/3rds of Am wealth. Repub are killing the American dream.
countess1900 11 months ago
@ladylordess Bullshit, the R's have broken so many promises. They claimed they were gonna focus on the economy first but they have went after stupid social issues for the past 4 months.
enemy2k10 11 months ago
@enemy2k10 the TEA party movement is keeping the Republicans accountable. They promised to cut spending and focus on the economy. The "stupid" social issues would be the ones the president has gone after. The other "stupid" social issues, would those be budget cutting? LOL
ladylordess 11 months ago
Re-elect Obama Union Boss in 2012 .....make the bumber stickers now
Hellpig 11 months ago
You lose me completely when you refer to union "thugs". I did not see any "thugs" in the people protesting against Scott Walkers ramming through his proposal to destroy collective bargaining for the public sector employees. The teachers, nurses, firefighters, paramedics, electricians, etc. in Madison were clean, neat, peaceful and just standing up for their rights as Americans. What this is about is pitting private sector employees against public sector employees.
trublulu3 11 months ago
@trublulu3 <----- a blind commie progressive
Hellpig 11 months ago
@Hellpig ha-ha. That is so funny. You don't even know me but you put me in a category. Anytime people do not agree wth a righty they are called "socialist, communist, nazi" or anything else to demonize someone who differs from their very narrow viewpoint. The good news is that in poll after poll Americans express more sympathy for the union protestors than for Gov. Walker.
trublulu3 11 months ago
Finish the Job 11-6-12 ! ! !
"In God we Still Trust."
TheTeaPartyMovement 11 months ago
Unions use thuggery to stay in power, and who are they intimidating? Taxpayers! Democrats have sold their souls to these thugs. Shame on them! Unions are parasites and could care less that our country is sinking in debt.
satxusa 11 months ago
WANTED: Pitchfork Sharpening Machine
joekiddone 11 months ago
Yes, a Massachusetts Democrat named Mike Capuano spoke to a mob of public employee union thugs rallying in Boston and actually told them to “get a little bloody.”
Yes, a Wisconsin Democrat named Gordon Hintz actually told a female colleague “You are fucking dead” after her vote supporting Governor Scott Walker.
Maybe these Democrats were just following Obama’s latest marching orders...
...or maybe they were just acting alone. Either way, so much for their call for civility!
joekiddone 11 months ago
No more collective bargaining for State government employees. The taxpayers can't afford these sweet heart deals that allow bad workers to keep their job and good workers to not get paid what they deserve. It is a conflict of interest to force taxpayers to pay for union dues that overwhelmingly go to one government parties campaign. It is just wrong.
quizerry 11 months ago
Just play it in a loop for the next 2 years
Hellpig 11 months ago
Sweet, sending it Viral !
hobo59 11 months ago
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This GOP governor in his bill, REMOVED the income CAPS of $33,000 or under a year, so RICH people can get $3,800 VOUCHERS to pay for their kids PRIVATE schools.
How nice. Kickbacks given to the RICH paid for by the TAXPAYERS, while cutting 900 million from Public Schools, so the middle class and poor TAXPAYERS can send their kids to classes of 50-100 kids for warehousing and babysitting services.
What a SCAM.
1911arthur 11 months ago
Projection.
Peas.
AceHoale 11 months ago
Typical Republican union hating rhetoric. They want to abolish the unions so that they can privatize everything thereby making it impossible for ordinary people to have any input on costs. Republicans love to cut programs for everyone except their wealthy campaign contributors. It was the corporations that eliminated the private sector pensions and push for 401k's but many businesses are eliminating them too.
trublulu3 11 months ago
@trublulu3 No one wants to abolish unions. Unions in the private sector can be competitive but in the public sector they are not and taxpayers are on the hook for all these sweet heart deals made by one party to get votes. It is unfair to taxpayers to be forced to contribute to political campaigns of one party through taxes. Lets turn it around. How would you like it if as a taxpayer to be forced to pay union dues through your state taxes that go to the republican party only?
quizerry 11 months ago
@trublulu3 Also in many states these collective bargaining deals keep bad teachers teaching while good teachers are not being accredited for the superior performance. In NY there are over 700 teachers being paid to do nothing because they can't be fired. Some have been collecting full salaries for over two years and have not stepped foot in a classroom. Its your money how do you feel about that?
quizerry 11 months ago
Libs and their same ole talking points. Come up with new matierial
d1sn3yg1r132 11 months ago
@d1sn3yg1r132 The corporation will take care of you. Your fellow workers are your enemy. Teachers, are the enemy. Nurses are the enemy. The corporation will take car of you.
jimmydore 11 months ago
im union and despise Obama
IdiotsForObamaCom 11 months ago 2
My favorite part of that was when someone in the background was holding up a sign asking "Why do Republicans hate people?" All of the ridiculous Republican bullshit that came along with it was funny too, but that moment was priceless.
callingfromniu 11 months ago
Republicans only care about the rich.
ericzum 11 months ago
@ericzum Is that why more Democrats in congress are millionaires than Republicans? Don't get me wrong, both parties have screwed this country up and both parties are responsible, except for 2009-10 when the Republicans were completely powerless to do anything at all, but be careful with blanket statements like that, because finger pointing doesn't solve anything, and it often is the pot calling the kettle black.
ManekiNeko1972 11 months ago
@ManekiNeko1972 Finger pointing, otherwise known as "Accurately describing what is going on".
jimmydore 11 months ago
@jimmydore No, because both sides have been fucking this country up for years. We're spending more on entitlements and interest on the debt than we take in in revenues (that excludes defense or income security) and the cuts gotta come in from somewhere since an increasing number of people can't pay them. And the Democrats wouldn't know how to tell the truth if their lives depended on it. The last one that did was Mondale and look what happened to him. The right lies 99% of the time also.
ManekiNeko1972 11 months ago
sparkyj99 11 months ago
Republicans only care about rich people.
ericzum 11 months ago
Most union members have No Clue that their Mandatory Dues are being Used to Kill the USA!!
3martijns 11 months ago
GOP just want to kill American working class, 16 hour work schedule is back in many companies, no extra compensation. if you speak you get fired. Yes this is American prosperity.
ExChristian88 11 months ago
Obama should have let expire all the Bush's tax cuts, than only Republican thugs could have been controlled.
ExChristian88 11 months ago
democrats and republicans have destroyed America. its time for a new voice.
TEA PARTY 2012
ofcccaddy2004 11 months ago
@ofcccaddy2004 Try me again when the Tea Party isn't a terrorist group that is actively trying to destroy workers' rights in Wisconsin.
BoredomCorner 11 months ago 2
Guess what you know those democrats who fled yea there are going to be ads about that to.
jp3711nc1 11 months ago
The 'Union Bosses' sure got a lot from Obama...
A Pay-Freeze for instance!
Obama also pledged to walk the picket lines if Unions were put under assault... and I haven't seen him out there either.
Some support he's giving the Unions there!
The GOP has NOTHING to offer the USA but Fascism, and Totalitarian rule; and the Dem's represent Conservatism better than anyone these days.
Face it.... the USA is completely screwed.
123iii123iii 11 months ago
@123iii123iii Democrats spend spend then print print and spend some more that doesn't sound like conservatism to me.
jp3711nc1 11 months ago
@jp3711nc1 You can trace the trillions of debt back to Reagan/Bush/Bush2.0; not to the Dems.
You cry about Obama's stimulus plan...when anyone with an introductory course in Economics will tell you a Recession is EXACTLY when the Government should be spending. Not like Reagan's unprecedented spending....
If you GOP minions had any sense at all, you'd see it's not the Left that's spending you into the poorhouse....
123iii123iii 11 months ago
@123iii123iii what ever Reagan Bush blah blah blah but Obama budgets are triple what you say there was 4.1 trillion yet no complaining from you and Democrats been in power since 2008 with in power in Reagan term as well and congress only can make bills like this. oh by the way I am not a GOP hack I point out what is there and think for my self unlike you.
jp3711nc1 11 months ago
No party is right in today's elections
Democrats-People that are funded by groups of workers in Unions paid by YOUR tax dollars.
Republicans-People that are funded by billionaires who own large companies.
Politics these days are stupid. Both sides abuse freedom of the press, and think they have the right to lie. Both sides use tactics to get around the limited donations. Republicans aren't better than Democrats, and vice versa. Once everyone wakes up and smells the coffee, People will realize
HomelessHillbilly 11 months ago
Union Bosses elect democrats, democrats give more money and laws that support unions, unions elect more democrats. See the problem?
rogueinrl 11 months ago
In other words, the GOP is not about jobs, jobs, jobs and Wisconsin isn't about the economy... its just about getting their candidate elected in 2012... NICE ! ! !
EddieLandsberg 11 months ago
It is ok for corporations and business people to form associations to try to influence the government for their interest but not working people? This economic mess was not caused by working folks but by shady corporations and business people.
floridagrandpa 1 year ago
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You people who love Reagan so much, well, here are his tax rates: "The share of the income tax burden borne by the top 10 percent of taxpayers increased from 48.0 percent in 1981 to 57.2 percent in 1988. Meanwhile, the share of income taxes paid by the bottom 50 percent of taxpayers dropped from 7.5 percent in 1981 to 5.7 percent in 1988."
Rattapax 1 year ago
So, lets see. Republicans kiss the ass of corporations, let them form behind the U.S,. chamber of commerce, let the righty fascists on the Sypreme court declare corporations people...then, let every corporation in the U.S., and abroad buy our elections with their billions.
I'll take good old American Union money any day.
This is the kind of crap you'll find on a Fox news/Beck youtube spot.
Anti0American, traiterous racist fools.
172677 1 year ago
@172677 You tell em Snookie. Your Jersey Shore intellect always puts the idiot's perspective on every issue.
Maybe Barry can decide if the States have the Constitutional Right to exist. He picks and chooses the laws to enforce maybe he can get his SS to arrest the Governors. You gotta love the left,
mueygringo 1 year ago
@172677 Unions spent more than corporations in the last election cycle (opensecrets) but don't let that fact stop you. Typical lefty. Can't debate so out comes the race card because now pointing out facts is also racist. Idiot!
NCMan28025 1 year ago
@NCMan28025 Unions are made up of individual AMERICAN workers, who live here, work here,raise families here. They are "we, the people". Membership is voluntary, dues are paid individually, decisions are made by vote International corporations and domestic conglomerates are none of these. The only decision making is done by the bosses...and those decisions don't go much beyond which politician they can buy and how much it will cost them.
172677 1 year ago
So, is Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC racist or stupid when he says it sounds racist to him to call the leaders of the unions Union Bosses and say "stop Obama and his Union Bosses"?
Aside from the fact that Union Bosses means leaders of the unions, Larry thinks the ad says the POTUS has bosses because he is black.
Um, 43 POTUSs before B.Obama had bosses. They're called voters.
The POTUS is elected and serves at the pleasure of the people. We, the People, are the POTUS's boss. No racism
bsabruzzo 1 year ago
Oh my, teachers made this economic mess! It wasn't the bank bailouts, federal overspending, foreign aid, oversized military budgets, or fighting the "War on Terror" for nearly a decade.....
It's going to be a quick ending to the United States if we'd rather pay for bombs and banks rather than education.
DarthKap 1 year ago
@CATTESTONE ehhhh wrong..Happily married living in the middle class life with a beautiful daughter. Paying 19% of my pay to health insurance AND paying for your job and you benefits and your health insurance .How about instead of twirling signs, you all hold out hats and beg for more of my money. Do whatever you want cuz the bill will pass.Unfortunately for you this is America not Egypt.Democracy,it's amazing.Remember Pelosi and the big gavel?I hope Walker shows the same maturity. LOL
orlandodolphin 1 year ago
@orlandodolphin , If you really live in Orlando you know how little most people here get paid. Could someone on 30k a year (most full time jobs in Orlando) pay for their health care ? Don't be a dolt. This is an effort to divide public and private workers. We really are in the same boat.
floridagrandpa 1 year ago
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to all those who believe in these unions and who are protesting, you need to watch this video on youtube, the title is "" I told you we could prove sorros obama and the communists of america were behind the protest"" watch that video and do the research and see for yourself that this is all planned to bring america down. These protesters are just falling into the trap that they are setting.
cherokeedoll1 1 year ago
Need to hit the 'reset' button. Where is it? Oh, 2012. It will be like flushing the toliet after taking a big dump.
the82spartans 1 year ago
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READ THE DAMN BILL - IT IS ON WEB IT GIVES NAZI POWER TO COLLEGE FLUNK OUT WALKER- (HIS HIGHEST GRADE WAS A "C" - GET WHY HE HATES TEACHERS?) iT GIVES HIM THE POWER TO KILL SENIOR CARE AND TO GIVE THE KOCH BROTHERS A NO BID CONTRACT TO TAKE OVER WI'S ENERGY
SEND THE NAZI PACKING WITH A RECALL AND THEN MAYBE THE REPUBLICUNTS WILL GET THE MESSAGE THEY SERVE US NOT HELP THEMSELVES TO OUR MONEY!!!!!!!
justonefirefly1 1 year ago
the unions are the ones pulling obamas strings, he is the epitome of a empty suit----TO HELL WITH THE GREEDY UNIONS ,WE HAVE NOTHING LEFT FOR YOU TO STEAL
100crawma 1 year ago
@100crawma Yeh fuck thoses American workers yeh fuck those VETs fuck America
FUCK AMERICAN VETS FUCK AMERICAN WORKERS FUCK AMERICA
LET THE WORKERS WORK FOR THE WAGES AS INDIA, CHINA AND KOREA
FUCK AMERICAN VETS - THEY THINK THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPENSATED FOR THEIR BRAVERY FUCK YOU WHORE FOR YOU RACIST IDIOTIC COMMENTS 100 CRAWLING WHORES
justonefirefly1 11 months ago
Comrade Obama is a dismal failure and a marxist pig
100crawma 1 year ago
I laugh at posts that say"I'm Conservative, but obama is great!!" or "I'm a decorated combat vet, but obama is great and the military sucks!" LMFAO!!
How about this, I'm a stupid, flaming liberal douchebag, and even I can see that obama is a horriblr president. Either he's clueless OR he wants the USA to be "Changed" for the worse.
stopgapflop 1 year ago
@stopgapflop I ***love*** those comments. "I was a Republican for 60 yeas but when that Ronald Reagan came into office, that was just the last straw" LOL
VinceP1974 1 year ago
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President Obama is GREAT !
mitchthemich 1 year ago
Yes Obama is a terrible president but you quacks who say he should be impeached are saying that out of spite and nothing else. President Obama has committed no crime that I've heard of. I am more conservative than any of you, but I am not biased. These calls for impeachment are totally biased. We ought to strive to be truthful.
DOHC2L 1 year ago
1 Yes obama needs to be impeached.
2 How many republicans voted to extend the unamerican patriot act that is actually only aimed at americans, sheeple training 101...
3 Politician equals crook and liar, it doesn't matter what party they claim to be, they've all cut deals and taken payoffs.
4 We always get stuck with the bills and taxes for all their (politicians) BS.
AwohaliSagwu 1 year ago
@AwohaliSagwu Moral relativism is always a fallacy. You only say these things (#3,4) because it's easier to blame everyone rather than sort out the specifics and form honest opinions. It's better to be informed than it is to be lazy. Don't be lazy and give in to absolutes. Cheers.
DOHC2L 1 year ago