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@Alex4uall Yes,that is right. Thank you for pointing that out to me because I have heard the whole " you're an atheist too " jazz and I guess I never thought about it the way that you put it. Very good point.
God dammit, the host doesn't know what "agnostic means." If youtube would allow fucking links to be posted to comments, I'd post a link that explains it well.
If you're a Christian, you are an Atheist to the Hindu Gods, Allah, Wiccan Deities, the Roman Gods, etc. So technically, everyone's an Atheist to some degree due to religions deities being largely exclusive.
However, most often it's not used in that way, and is instead used to define a lack of belief in any God.
@TheYouthHeroic I see your point but the thing is that someone who more or less dedicates their lives to a God is not atheist. They believe that their God exists and that he created all there is, and that's is as far away from atheism as you can get because basically no one believes in let's say the Islamic and Christian God at the same time.
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David Pakman has a completely different idea. "god" is just a term, a title. But, being an atheist means to not believe in "gods" not the higher power he imagines. Because such an "higher power" would simply another civilization. It's like the chinese worshipping japan as a "god". While we know they aren't "gods" but simply another civilization. That still makes you an atheist, unless you have a deeply religious and bizarre relationship with such a concept.
ha, David Silverman and I have the same "how I became an atheist" story, only my family were lazy Catholics instead. I completely believe that Bill O'Reilly is a fictional character. He and Glenn Beck both. I wish they'd both move on to some other role...
@evansentranced What bothers me is that even if they're just rolls... people believe all that crap is true and will use their arguments and logic to live their lives... it just seems so wrong at so many levels :-/
On the "atheist v agnostic" thing: Theism is belief in a god; atheism is lack of said belief. Similarly gnosticism is knowledge of the supernatural, while agnosticism is lack of said knowledge (and practically, understanding that such knowledge is unobtainable). They're not mutually exclusive, and simply not believing in any gods makes you an atheist, by definition.
The term that a lot of vocal atheists wrongly eschew, but describes specific rejection of one or more gods is "antitheist".
... which is what I suspect Pakman means when he says, "I don't really feel like I'm an atheist."
When Silverman says "atheist" he means "anyone who does not believe in a god"; which I believe accurately describes Pakman. When Packman says "atheist", he means "anyone who rejects a deity", which is right if we're talking about contextual atheism (I'm an atheist with regards to Zeus), or antithesm (no gods exist).
David did a good work on the O'Reilly show. I wonder why many of these shows are always arranged like executions, one atheist and 5 fundamentalists fighting and screaming against him
Wait, this guy believes (with no evidence at all) that it's possible that "a very advanced race" of beings could have created the Universe? WTF? Are you 6 years old? Comb your hair and read a book, kid. That's ridiculous. This is the problem with Agnostics; they're no better than Christians or any other group of religious people...in fact, they're WORSE because they show that they have enough intellect to reject religion, but not quite enough to reject all utter nonsense.
@Sheldonwh i think he's tryin to say that BECAUSE there is life on earth, based on this evidence we can reasonable assume there can be life outside our solar system, NOW imagine if that life form is primitive, they must be like life during early earth BUT if they are highly advance, mayb it is possible that they are a galactic civilization (michio kaku) and able to create/design life on other planets. look at the way we are doing experiments in our labs, we r able to create synthetic cells.
What happens when you die? Have you told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain(10 Commandments)? If yes, then you're a liar, thief, and a blasphemer in the sight of God. When you die & be judged by God, you'll be guilty of sin, & go to Hell! But God sent His Son Jesus to shed His blood & die on a cross for your sins, He was buried & rose again from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus's death for your sins, His burial & resurrection)you'll not perish & have eternal life
In fact, the best answer might be to say that we dont need to give an explanation. Because then bill would be saying that god is the default position when you dont have an answer. Which is basicly flat out admitting that god is an argument from ignorance.
Also, Mr. Silverman here just proved that Atheism is a religion. Maybe not an organized religion, but a religion nonetheless. A religion is defined as a group with certain beliefs about the supernatural, and seeks to proselytize other to their group. At the end of this video, he invited people to join American Atheists and go to their convention and learn about atheism. How is this different than seeking to convert someone to a religion?
@historicalogicalness So any group is a religion? Atheism is just a non belief in one subject... gods. Boy Scouts meet are they a religion? A chess club meets and talks about chess is that a religion? Atheist groups do not go out an proselytize in any way. Has an Atheist ever been to your door trying to convert you? Being on a TV show and plugging your organization or website is not proselytizing in any way.
both sides of the atheist argument are pointless. If one person said there is life on another planet somewhere, and another said there wasn't, neither could prove or disprove whether there is unless they went to every single planet in the universe.
@historicalogicalness The point is not what argument is 100% right, but what makes more sense and is more believable. When there's no concrete evidence to prove the existence of something, it makes us believe it just does not exist. Not the oposite.
If any religion could *almost* prove themselves right, I would believe it. But it's not the case.
@historicalogicalness There are not "2 sides". One person makes a claim... Ghosts exist. The other person says "show me". Ghost guy says, "I can't", so the other guy says "Well until you do, I don't believe you." That is atheism. Life on other planets same thing. Someone makes a claim, and we decide to accept their position or we don't. If we don't then we by definition do not believe that claim. No one is saying its not possible, but until the evidence is offered why accept the claim?
Nah. There are popping up communities here and there. The problem is, it's like a club for non-stamp collectors. The one things that's sure to unite us, is a disbelief in gods. Then most after that agree on a wide range of other subjects, but that's not a certainty. Watch most Scandinavian politics. That's basically an atheist platform, in the sense that religious arguments doesn't matter, only secular ones does.
there are no real christians, jews or muslim or others who beleive in god totally. they have to know that their religion is based on their environment. you are what you eat as far as food is concerned. yuo are what you grow up into as far as religion is concerned.
God is not a man in the sky.God is a spirit,God is the prime creator,God is not an old man in the sky with a white beard,they two jews are trying to mislead and decieve people,to bring in their satanic NWO !
@montsyblackmadonna Why does the government have to do "god's" work? Shouldn't "going to hell" be enough if that's what you believe? THERE IS A SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE FOR A REASON! State doesn't have to bend over backwards for your supposed "god" to which there is NO evidence. BTW doesn't your "god" give everyone free will? Instead of arresting gays and atheist (im a proud atheist btw) we arrest mothers who kill their children claiming GOD TOLD THEM TO DO IT.
@danceislifeeee , don't try to talk rational to Montsy. She believes Fred (the child abuser) Phelps is 100 percent correct. The funny thing is, even Fred Phelps isn't stupid enough to believe his own lies. Montsy is nothing but a pathetic, self righteous, arrogant, hate filled, NAZI SKANK TROLL that gets off on condemning people to hell. Pathetic waste of skin.
Anyone who's anyone is going to hell. The people who seem the most devout seem like the people I'd least want to spend an eternity with. Bring on the hell woo!
@montsyblackmadonna No; and you can't make me. Hold on I think I need to line the birdcage with some useless paper; oh yeah! Here is a bible. Perfect!
@montsyblackmadonna I understand that you are insane. I'm just saying if I was forced to leave my baby with pone of these strangers that posted, my last choice would be you.
@montsyblackmadonna So all the other intangible gods are fake but your intangible god is true & living? I suggest for the sake of humanity to lose this god that makes you so hateful of others that don't agree you and your god(who happens to have the same hateful values as you).
Its just common sense if given the choice you wouldn't serve a human who is as hateful, murderous, egotistical, and unjust as your god. So why would you serve this hateful prick of a God which there is no evidence for?
@montsyblackmadonna Thank Dog! I thought for a second I was going to spend an eternity with child molesters, murderers, rapists, and bigots. Now that I know I am going to Hell, I am very happy. I get to spend eternity will all my friends, loving family, rockin' musicians, thoughtful poets, brilliant scientists, and many of the master painters and sculptors throughout history. I'm stoked!!!
the best? you did`nt see the "dr craig/hitchens debate" didd you. and all atheist and theist intellectuals agree that dawkins and hitchens books where on a very low level intellecualy.
@prebenist Christopher Hitchens book is really one of the best. Mainly because of how it disproves theism. It's basic, simple and to the point. By saying "dawkins and hitchens books where on a very low level intellecualy." (proof read lol) Idk what you mean. These books were developed for those that are questioning their faith or religion in general.
Personally I like Hitch because he is quiet honestly the best debater i've ever watched. He's fluid, rhetorical, humorous and knowledgeable
disproves theism? There is no proof against theism (can you name one). i think you should see some "dr craig debates" (ex: vs peter slezak and lewis wolpert) There are proofs that point in the direction of theism. so beliving in god is ok, being agnostic is ok, but being an atheist is pointless.
@prebenist This is absurd. I don't have to claim theism is false, you have to prove that it is true. Lets get that straight. Also, do you know the difference between deism and theism? You have to prove that god interacts with us.
I dont know the difference, but i know there is a reason to belive in god. you can see the debates if you dont belive me. I cant deside if that is enough proofs for you to belive, but it is for me.
@prebenist If you don't know the difference then you really don't have room to speak. Any one can have a personal god, doesn't make it right and doesn't make it true. You can believe in one all you want, just don't tell me you know what he wants and how I should live.
"An atheist doesn't call what is beyond his intelligence & knowledge a "god", he views it as a place to explore and learn; not worship or pray to."- Me
exact same story for me. I always queried how the hell man was made from dirt and a boat filled with a pair of every damn species got onto a boat. Life makes perfect sense when viewed scientifically.
@okieoneshinobi Well kind of. As an atheist I don't believe in any of the gods dreamed up by man. As an agnostic I acknowledge that I do not know that a god(s) do not exist.
@BrightonContrarian10 Yeah that's the case some of the time other times people choose that term because of the ignorance of others about what atheism means. They just want to avoid the confrontation or just don't want to repeat themselves countless times to those ignoramuses who don't want to accept there is a definition other than their biased definition of atheism.
People should stop misusing the term agnostic. It does not refer to a kind of attenuated atheism. The term means "no knowledge, no knowing" and was coined by Thomas Huxley who believed that the existence or non-existence of supernatural entities was neither in practice nor in principle a problem solvable by the human mind.
That is interesting. I've always wondered if O'Reilly is as stupid as he acts on his show. According to this guy, when the camera is off, O'Reilly is courteous and intelligent. And when the camera goes on, O'Reilly instantly becomes an ignorant asshole. What kind of person is willing to convince the world he is anti-intellectual blowhard just for money. I suppose O'Reilly doesn't care because he just laughs all the way to the bank.
u have to talk over idiots like Bill'O the clown... that is what they do every time they have these interviews ...maybe if these atheists got some morals they wouldn't be working at the criminal FOX fake terrorist news
Fox hosts like O'Reilly and Hannity have a team of producers speaking into that little ear-bud feeding them information and strategy as the segment progresses. Only the most sharp-minded and agressive debaters have a chance at making any points on their shows.
Agnosticism means lack of knowledge or thinking there is the lack of ability to know whether or not there is a God. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in any god, that is all....kazooga1234 is completely wrong. Someone can be atheist and agnostic.
no its not agonistic means that there might be a god and atheist means that there is 100% no god its impossible for there to be a god and i cant stand people who are trying to push it into one catagory because i like to be able to say i am atheist and not have people say well do you think its possible for there to be a god when atheist on its own means its impossible for there to be a god
you and cenk are both agnostic and cenk would even say this guy is wrong to put agnostic and atheist in the same catagory i forgot what the 4th thing that pisses me off is but this is it and i cant stand guys like this because once upon a time i was agnostic but now i am atheist because i no that there cant be a god its impossible
@kazooga1234 Have you never heard of an agnostic atheist? Agnosticism is a statement of knowledge--it means you don't know whether or not a god exists. Atheism is a statement of belief--it means you don't believe a god exists. Therefore, an agnostic atheist doesn't believe god exists, but thinks it's arrogant to assume it's utterly impossible.
If you say you KNOW it's impossible for a god to exist, then that makes you a gnostic atheist, which in my opinion is almost as bad is a gnostic theist.
@nemo3590 thats an oxymoron its impossible to be and agnostic atheist because atheist means 100% cant be a god there cant be anything out there i am atheist i know what i am talking about and i wish that people like you would stop butchering the deffintions that where set in place to seperate all of them
@kazooga1234 I have an English degree with a focus on linguistics and syntax, and I've taken a particular interest in the meaning of those words. I am also an atheist, but unlike you, I DO know what I'm talking about. You need to learn the difference between belief and knowledge. You can go on spouting your opinion on the words, but that doesn't make you right, it just makes you look like an idiot. I can name several English professors and hordes of dictionaries that would disagree with you.
@nemo3590 i no exactly what i am talking about because A means no and THEIST means god to be more exact 100% god and if you look up the shittest deffintion of the word atheist it says no god and if you think its possible for there to be a god or if you believe in mother nature then you are agnostic i went over this in my classes as well you are the fucking idiot for not knowing the deffitions and trying to fuck with them eventhough they where set in place for a reason all 3 of them and i have
@nemo3590 (continue) many dictionarys including a 1935 dictionary i bet you never even seen one of those so it shows that you dont no what you are talking about because if you did you would no that 100% belief in god is theist atheist is 100% impossible for there to be a god and agnostic is everything inbetween because you cant say that it is possible for there to be a god and that there is no god because thats a mother fucking oxymoron and you are an oxymoron -oxy
@kazooga1234 I just went through 20 dictionaries for the hell of it, and they all defined theism as a "BELIEF in a god or gods, not simply "god." Therefore a-theism = "no belief in god." Not "Absolutely know 100% that there is no god." BELIEF=/= KNOWLEDGE!!!
Also, if you're going to argue your point and claim to know what you're talking about, do you think you could bother to spell one or two words correctly? It would really help your credibility. I'm literally laughing at you over here.
i need to keep commenting because this guy has no idea what the deffintion of agnostic is its just that there might be a god thats all that agnostic means it means you think its possible even if you look up the worst made deffinition for atheist it says no god and if you are agnostic it takes away the no god by saying there might be a god or some higher power atheists dont believe that and anybody who is trying to push agnostic and atheist into the same catagory piss me because they r different
that guy is an idiot hes agnostic himself and not an atheist and doesnt understand what an atheist is because i am and i was agnsotic because i was like david and now i decided that there cant be a god at all will i ever go back to being spirital and go back to being agnostic i dont no i am an atheist for now and all agnostic says is there might be a god or a higher power atheist says no such thing can exist and i cant stand that guy
@kazooga1234 Bullshit! Are you a theist? No? Then you're an atheist, it's that simple. Buddhists can even qualify as atheists. It's a pretty useless word.
@Nomiss9 no true at fucking all atheist means 100% no god not fucking possible agnostic says that its possible for there to be a god and if you say that there could be a god then you have a god here i will prove it with the weakest deffintions of both agnostic s deffiniton: a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study. also if you knew anything about words you would no that a means no and theist means god so that on its own means no god and if you
(continue) look at the deffintion of agnostic then it says that you cant be atheist if you believe there is a possiblity of a god because atheist means no god there for if you are agnostic you has a god so fuck you i am atheist and anybody who says there could be a god or a higher power isnt
@kazooga1234 Atheism is non-theism, just like asexual is non-sexual. Agnosticism means without knowledge (a = without, gnosis = knowledge). If you think there could possibly be a god, but you don't have a belief in one, you're an agnostic atheist. If you're not sexual you're asexual!
@Nomiss9 no a means no theist means god and the deffintion in the dictionary in the weakest one says no god and if you are agnostic then you have a god you are a fucking moron because it shows you never once looked up the deffintions and you cant have a god and say that there is no god and just by saying its possible means that you have a god you might not worship it but you believe one could be out there learn the deffinitions
@kazooga1234 A means without, THEOS means god, THEISM is belief in one or multiple gods. What are you if you've grown up in the jungle and never even heard about gods? You're an atheist, because you're not a theist, because you don't even know what a god is.
no A on its own means no and theist on its own means god and when you put atheist together it means no god and thats why in a lot of deffintions even at wikipeada witch sucks for deffintions just says that atheist means no god and it shows you never once looked up the deffintions and cenk from TYT would also say that david is agnostic because he is and he also says that atheist is different then agnostic so fuck you and do some legit research i am atheist 100% no god cant be a god its impossible
you are the fail what i am saying is facts you have to look up the deffintions to understand what i am saying agnostic means that there could be a god or some higher power and i no that caz i was agnostic my percentage kept going up and down but then i was an atheist after some time of being a very low percentage of agnostic just saying there could be a god also if you believe in mother nature you are agnostic not atheist i am athiest 100% no god there cant be impossible for there to be a god
@Nomiss9 i am also telling you what i learnt in my school because people wouldnt leave my friend who is also an atheist like me alone at the time i was agnostic though and they kept asking her if she thought ti was possible for there to be a god she kept saying she was atheist because atheist means 100% cant be a god god cant fucking exist you peice of shit stop just saying fail when you havent even looked up the deffintions
@kazooga1234 The reason I only said "Fail." was because you said that theism means god. That's simply wrong, theos is the Greek word for god, look it up. You seem to be willfully ignorant.
@Nomiss9 no i said theist means god and it does theist means that you 100% believe in god and a means no so atheist means 100% impossible for there to be a god
@Nomiss9 well nanalew believes that and she says that she is theist so yes if you say there is 100% that there is a god then yes even ask nanalew and thats her sn and you dont mess with her god either and there are some chirstains that just call themselves chirstain because its how they grew up but dont know what they believe
@kazooga1234 Didn't completely understand some parts of that comment, but are you saying that atheists are "no gods", and theists are gods??? ROFLMFAO! What are you smoking?
@Nomiss9 im not smoking anything go look up the deffintions A means no and THEIST means 100% god and when you put them together you have the word atheist meaning NO 100% GOD and to make it gramatical its 100% no god or impossible for there to be a god and agnostic says that there could be a god and if you think there could be a god then you have a god and its not the 100% no god like atheist says my aunts also an atheist
@Nomiss9 i think the 1995 dictionarys have the best deffintions because that was before they tried to push atheist to mean agnostic but thats just if you even care to do your own research
@kazooga1234 I honestly don't care if some fucking Bible thumper defines it as "devil worshipper" or "baby eater". If you look up the words theism, theos and gnosis individually and understand that the "a" means "without", the meaning is fucking obvious. Oh, and I already understand that you're not interested in facts. You've already made up your mind and are trying to find definitions that agree with you, but maybe someone else reading the comments cares.
shes not a bible thumper she is just a theist not all theist/chirstains are bible thumpers and she is just a theist thats a chirstain there are a lot of different types of theists there are some theists that dont even choose a god or a deity they are just 100% sure that there is something out their weather its a god or something else and A on its own means NO there are so many people that have told me that and theist on its own means god and atheist means no god you never once looked this up
@kazooga1234 Theism means believing in one or multiple gods/deities, so once again you fail spectacularly, Captain Fail. Also, I don't care if Santa Claus himself told you that theist means god, it doesn't make it true. Look it up or shut up.
@Nomiss9 no it doesnt theist means that there is 100% that there is a god and people need to stop fucking with the deffintions because they where set up like they where for a reason nanalew is a theist because she says that its 100% that there is a god she says she cant prove it but in her heart she knows that its there and i am an atheist and know 100% there isnt a god so fuck you because everything inbetween is aganostic
@okieoneshinobi i am 100% sure there is no god thats why i am an atheist same with my aunt and my best friend analou not to get confussed with nanalew who is 100% sure there is a god and thats why she is theist
@kazooga1234 the whole 100% thing is kind of silly. It is like saying I am 100% sure sure that Sarah Palin will never be president, we all hope and believe that is the case, but plenty of idiots live her.
@okieoneshinobi its not silly nanalew (thats shawna's sn) is theist meaning that she 100% believes that there is a god and i am exact opposite of her like 1 of my friends and my aunt i am atheist as in 100% impossible for there to be a god there cant be no way no how and if you dont like it go suck your own cock because i know 100% that there is no god
@kazooga1234 No need to get angry. You "hard core" atheists are silly since you hold your belief in an absence of a creator at least as seriously as the most devout Christian. You are definitely entitled to your belief. I respect that an think that it is important for you Atheists to point out when fruitloops on the theist side get out of hand. Either way God loves Atheists and Theists alike, so it is not for me to judge. I am 100% sure there is no Santa, does that mean I don't get any presents
@okie its not hard core its just atheist you stupid fucker and yes i do get pissed off about this because this is one of the 4 things that piss me off is people trying to change deffintions that where set up for a reason a long time ago and athiest just means 100% no god and agnositic means there could be a god and theist means 100% there is a god and the deffintions need to stay that way because if you get rid of the word atheist there is nothing saying 100% impossible for there to be a god and
@okieoneshinobi (continue) there needs to be only 1 word for that because of people like me my aunt and my friend and the word theist needs to be 100% that there is a god for people like nanalew who believe that there is a god and no doubt in her mind that there is one
@kazooga1234 All right, I'm going to give a very abstract analogy but I hope it helps your understanding. You have a math equation, and you want to find out from people on the street what their reaction to the equation is by testing them. There are 4 ways people can react, people can get the equation right(atheist), people can get it wrong(theist), people will give up (agnostic) and people will not take the test (apatheist). If you ask anyone who knows, they will tell you apatheists are atheists
@SmogHouseTradingCo even in the comment sections where people try to defend the shit that you do they still say that A means NO and theist means GOD and that atheist means no god but what they dont understand is if you have no god that means that there cant be a possiblity of a god because if you think its possible for there to be a god then you have a fucking god
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tigersforchrist 1 day ago
@Alex4uall Yes,that is right. Thank you for pointing that out to me because I have heard the whole " you're an atheist too " jazz and I guess I never thought about it the way that you put it. Very good point.
tnmusicman1 2 weeks ago
Well,that was enlightening......
tnmusicman1 2 weeks ago
God dammit, the host doesn't know what "agnostic means." If youtube would allow fucking links to be posted to comments, I'd post a link that explains it well.
AnarchalPatriarch 4 weeks ago
If you're a Christian, you are an Atheist to the Hindu Gods, Allah, Wiccan Deities, the Roman Gods, etc. So technically, everyone's an Atheist to some degree due to religions deities being largely exclusive.
However, most often it's not used in that way, and is instead used to define a lack of belief in any God.
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Alex4uall 4 weeks ago
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@TheYouthHeroic I see your point but the thing is that someone who more or less dedicates their lives to a God is not atheist. They believe that their God exists and that he created all there is, and that's is as far away from atheism as you can get because basically no one believes in let's say the Islamic and Christian God at the same time.
Alex4uall 4 weeks ago
Hitchens will be there, now that proves there is an afterlife (LOL)
millertas 1 month ago
Jews and Catholics make the best atheists.
millertas 1 month ago
Bill O'Reilly is not interested in the truth but only what is good for Bill O'Reilly.
millertas 1 month ago 2
I was wondering the same thing about his response. But his reply makes sense now.
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JezusSlave 2 months ago
@JezusSlave you're a moron.
DerrenBrown100 2 weeks ago
We got a rage face out of it, I think that it was worth it.
hubomba 2 months ago 5
David Pakman has a completely different idea. "god" is just a term, a title. But, being an atheist means to not believe in "gods" not the higher power he imagines. Because such an "higher power" would simply another civilization. It's like the chinese worshipping japan as a "god". While we know they aren't "gods" but simply another civilization. That still makes you an atheist, unless you have a deeply religious and bizarre relationship with such a concept.
Blasthood 2 months ago
"i just quit" lmao, nice. Interesting show.
chicarbiomed 4 months ago 2
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Heheheh, I laughed too.
nemirn 4 months ago
ha, David Silverman and I have the same "how I became an atheist" story, only my family were lazy Catholics instead. I completely believe that Bill O'Reilly is a fictional character. He and Glenn Beck both. I wish they'd both move on to some other role...
evansentranced 4 months ago
@evansentranced What bothers me is that even if they're just rolls... people believe all that crap is true and will use their arguments and logic to live their lives... it just seems so wrong at so many levels :-/
chicarbiomed 4 months ago
haha, roles**
chicarbiomed 4 months ago
I cannot believe even today people so not understand the distiction between Atheism and Agnostism, THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
Gnostism lends itself to knowledge and Theism to belief.
In my case i am an Agnostic Atheist.
In Bills case I would say he is a Gnostic Theist, but you can be any mix of the two. Ive met them all.
I think the host of this show is an Agnostic Theist, someone that does not know but wants/does belief in a higher power.
Simple.
Scanini 4 months ago 2
On the "atheist v agnostic" thing: Theism is belief in a god; atheism is lack of said belief. Similarly gnosticism is knowledge of the supernatural, while agnosticism is lack of said knowledge (and practically, understanding that such knowledge is unobtainable). They're not mutually exclusive, and simply not believing in any gods makes you an atheist, by definition.
The term that a lot of vocal atheists wrongly eschew, but describes specific rejection of one or more gods is "antitheist".
Fordi 4 months ago
@Fordi
... which is what I suspect Pakman means when he says, "I don't really feel like I'm an atheist."
When Silverman says "atheist" he means "anyone who does not believe in a god"; which I believe accurately describes Pakman. When Packman says "atheist", he means "anyone who rejects a deity", which is right if we're talking about contextual atheism (I'm an atheist with regards to Zeus), or antithesm (no gods exist).
It's a disagreement in terms, but not substance.
Fordi 4 months ago
A talk show that actually lets the guest talk? O_o
wraith1771 4 months ago
This sort of episode is the reason I became a member recently.
DemiNiBlack 4 months ago
WHAT! Santa doesn't exist?
DetkaWillowheart 5 months ago
Master troll. Fuck him.
dragster178 5 months ago
So Bill O'Reilly is not stupid and/or ignorant; is playing a part to the susceptible. Ergo: Bill is Pravda.
Alwaysaroughdraft 5 months ago
bill o'reilly is a troll
asse080 5 months ago 59
the mustache!!! noooo!!!!
scriminamp 5 months ago
David did a good work on the O'Reilly show. I wonder why many of these shows are always arranged like executions, one atheist and 5 fundamentalists fighting and screaming against him
atheistfromaustria 5 months ago
I feel EXACTLY like pakman.
nayanmalig 5 months ago
And I'm a PC
Shadow99052 6 months ago
Wait, this guy believes (with no evidence at all) that it's possible that "a very advanced race" of beings could have created the Universe? WTF? Are you 6 years old? Comb your hair and read a book, kid. That's ridiculous. This is the problem with Agnostics; they're no better than Christians or any other group of religious people...in fact, they're WORSE because they show that they have enough intellect to reject religion, but not quite enough to reject all utter nonsense.
Sheldonwh 6 months ago
@Sheldonwh i think he's tryin to say that BECAUSE there is life on earth, based on this evidence we can reasonable assume there can be life outside our solar system, NOW imagine if that life form is primitive, they must be like life during early earth BUT if they are highly advance, mayb it is possible that they are a galactic civilization (michio kaku) and able to create/design life on other planets. look at the way we are doing experiments in our labs, we r able to create synthetic cells.
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What happens when you die? Have you told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain(10 Commandments)? If yes, then you're a liar, thief, and a blasphemer in the sight of God. When you die & be judged by God, you'll be guilty of sin, & go to Hell! But God sent His Son Jesus to shed His blood & die on a cross for your sins, He was buried & rose again from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus's death for your sins, His burial & resurrection)you'll not perish & have eternal life
gramosjr7 8 months ago
Being Jewish must be hard.
JOHNYOCHO 8 months ago
In fact, the best answer might be to say that we dont need to give an explanation. Because then bill would be saying that god is the default position when you dont have an answer. Which is basicly flat out admitting that god is an argument from ignorance.
gulbirk 9 months ago
who is to say that Thor never visited mount Olympus.. and did his thing there on occasions
farerse 9 months ago
It's just amazing to hear this about Bill O'Reilly.
Ignorantf00l 9 months ago
I think the face he mad in response to Bill's comment was all the argument he needed to make.
CCBadMoonRising 10 months ago 20
Also, Mr. Silverman here just proved that Atheism is a religion. Maybe not an organized religion, but a religion nonetheless. A religion is defined as a group with certain beliefs about the supernatural, and seeks to proselytize other to their group. At the end of this video, he invited people to join American Atheists and go to their convention and learn about atheism. How is this different than seeking to convert someone to a religion?
historicalogicalness 1 year ago
@historicalogicalness
Religion-
a) a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny; "he lost his faith but not his morality"
b) an institution to express belief in a divine power; "he was raised in the Baptist religion"; "a member of his own faith contradicted him"
Atheism-
a) the doctrine or belief that there is no God
b)a lack of belief in the existence of God or gods
So no.
AllenMac15 1 year ago
@AllenMac15 my whole point is that these arguments are pointless, why do you continue them?
historicalogicalness 1 year ago
@historicalogicalness I don't, I just like to point out when someone makes false statements, I don't force my opinion on anyone
AllenMac15 1 year ago
@historicalogicalness So any group is a religion? Atheism is just a non belief in one subject... gods. Boy Scouts meet are they a religion? A chess club meets and talks about chess is that a religion? Atheist groups do not go out an proselytize in any way. Has an Atheist ever been to your door trying to convert you? Being on a TV show and plugging your organization or website is not proselytizing in any way.
burnlaugh 1 year ago
both sides of the atheist argument are pointless. If one person said there is life on another planet somewhere, and another said there wasn't, neither could prove or disprove whether there is unless they went to every single planet in the universe.
historicalogicalness 1 year ago
@historicalogicalness The point is not what argument is 100% right, but what makes more sense and is more believable. When there's no concrete evidence to prove the existence of something, it makes us believe it just does not exist. Not the oposite.
If any religion could *almost* prove themselves right, I would believe it. But it's not the case.
anmerpozzobon 1 year ago
@historicalogicalness There are not "2 sides". One person makes a claim... Ghosts exist. The other person says "show me". Ghost guy says, "I can't", so the other guy says "Well until you do, I don't believe you." That is atheism. Life on other planets same thing. Someone makes a claim, and we decide to accept their position or we don't. If we don't then we by definition do not believe that claim. No one is saying its not possible, but until the evidence is offered why accept the claim?
burnlaugh 1 year ago
atheist must love youtube. Its the only place where they actually have a forum.
barkingwater2000 1 year ago
@barkingwater2000
Nah. There are popping up communities here and there. The problem is, it's like a club for non-stamp collectors. The one things that's sure to unite us, is a disbelief in gods. Then most after that agree on a wide range of other subjects, but that's not a certainty. Watch most Scandinavian politics. That's basically an atheist platform, in the sense that religious arguments doesn't matter, only secular ones does.
Aaberg123 1 year ago
Bill Oreilly is a demagogue. He reflects simply the majority opinion of the American public like a mirror, and brings in the ratings.
Ramshobraja 1 year ago
We are all atheists. some are simply delusional
MisterDoctorE 1 year ago
I disagree with Silverman. I believe Bill O'Reilly is really that ignorant.
gupsphoo 1 year ago
This was a wonderful conversation!
EPRVa62 1 year ago
there are no real christians, jews or muslim or others who beleive in god totally. they have to know that their religion is based on their environment. you are what you eat as far as food is concerned. yuo are what you grow up into as far as religion is concerned.
otherworldtrader1 1 year ago
I think I have the same kind of headphones as Lewis (sp?). Are those Sennheiser HD202s?
MrBadAxe 1 year ago
He is really cute
medesdaddy 1 year ago
athiesm, fuck ya!
TheGeneralBurn 1 year ago
ATHEISTS RULE!
danceislifeeee 1 year ago
Another great interview. You guys are on fire today!
polemius01 1 year ago
God is not a man in the sky.God is a spirit,God is the prime creator,God is not an old man in the sky with a white beard,they two jews are trying to mislead and decieve people,to bring in their satanic NWO !
montsyblackmadonna 1 year ago
Atheists are going to hell as well as homosexuals.David Packman is a homosexual jew.He has sinned away his day of grace.
God Shall not be Mocked !
We must and Shall Reclaim America for Christ !
Gays and atheists should be arrested !
The Kingdom of God is Nigh at Hand !
montsyblackmadonna 1 year ago
@montsyblackmadonna Why does the government have to do "god's" work? Shouldn't "going to hell" be enough if that's what you believe? THERE IS A SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE FOR A REASON! State doesn't have to bend over backwards for your supposed "god" to which there is NO evidence. BTW doesn't your "god" give everyone free will? Instead of arresting gays and atheist (im a proud atheist btw) we arrest mothers who kill their children claiming GOD TOLD THEM TO DO IT.
danceislifeeee 1 year ago
@danceislifeeee , don't try to talk rational to Montsy. She believes Fred (the child abuser) Phelps is 100 percent correct. The funny thing is, even Fred Phelps isn't stupid enough to believe his own lies. Montsy is nothing but a pathetic, self righteous, arrogant, hate filled, NAZI SKANK TROLL that gets off on condemning people to hell. Pathetic waste of skin.
Andy1000K 1 year ago
@montsyblackmadonna
Anyone who's anyone is going to hell. The people who seem the most devout seem like the people I'd least want to spend an eternity with. Bring on the hell woo!
garveya1 1 year ago
@garveya1 Don't put words in my mouth.You mocker and scoffer !
Hush Up and Obey the Lord Thy God,who made you and put you on this earth to Obey his standards,and bring honor and glory to his name.
montsyblackmadonna 1 year ago
@montsyblackmadonna No; and you can't make me. Hold on I think I need to line the birdcage with some useless paper; oh yeah! Here is a bible. Perfect!
subicbrat 1 year ago
@montsyblackmadonna my dad is god?? he will be SO happy
Shadrach76 1 year ago
@montsyblackmadonna <~~~ Can we lock this guy up? I think he's going to cause the next Arizona shooting.
SmogHouseTradingCo 1 year ago
@SmogHouseTradingCo You lie for the devil.
montsyblackmadonna 1 year ago
@montsyblackmadonna The only thing demonic about this conversation is your fanatical rants.
SmogHouseTradingCo 1 year ago
@SmogHouseTradingCo Blah...Blah...Blah...you just attack what you don't understand.
Down with ZOG !!!
montsyblackmadonna 1 year ago
@montsyblackmadonna I understand that you are insane. I'm just saying if I was forced to leave my baby with pone of these strangers that posted, my last choice would be you.
SmogHouseTradingCo 1 year ago
@montsyblackmadonna Cool story bro.
Flailwielder 1 year ago
@Flailwielder I am not your bro,you can take your sarcasm & ghetto,street slang,and shove it.I am a daughter of the one True and Living God !
montsyblackmadonna 1 year ago
@montsyblackmadonna Keep telling yourself that, broseph.
Flailwielder 1 year ago
@montsyblackmadonna So all the other intangible gods are fake but your intangible god is true & living? I suggest for the sake of humanity to lose this god that makes you so hateful of others that don't agree you and your god(who happens to have the same hateful values as you).
Its just common sense if given the choice you wouldn't serve a human who is as hateful, murderous, egotistical, and unjust as your god. So why would you serve this hateful prick of a God which there is no evidence for?
robvlob 1 year ago
@montsyblackmadonna Thank Dog! I thought for a second I was going to spend an eternity with child molesters, murderers, rapists, and bigots. Now that I know I am going to Hell, I am very happy. I get to spend eternity will all my friends, loving family, rockin' musicians, thoughtful poets, brilliant scientists, and many of the master painters and sculptors throughout history. I'm stoked!!!
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Hitchens is the best!!!!!
DubGongTuff 1 year ago
Hitchens is the best!!!!!
DubGongTuff 1 year ago 12
@DubGongTuff
the best? you did`nt see the "dr craig/hitchens debate" didd you. and all atheist and theist intellectuals agree that dawkins and hitchens books where on a very low level intellecualy.
prebenist 1 year ago
@prebenist Christopher Hitchens book is really one of the best. Mainly because of how it disproves theism. It's basic, simple and to the point. By saying "dawkins and hitchens books where on a very low level intellecualy." (proof read lol) Idk what you mean. These books were developed for those that are questioning their faith or religion in general.
Personally I like Hitch because he is quiet honestly the best debater i've ever watched. He's fluid, rhetorical, humorous and knowledgeable
DubGongTuff 1 year ago
@DubGongTuff
disproves theism? There is no proof against theism (can you name one). i think you should see some "dr craig debates" (ex: vs peter slezak and lewis wolpert) There are proofs that point in the direction of theism. so beliving in god is ok, being agnostic is ok, but being an atheist is pointless.
The books where made to earn money.
prebenist 1 year ago
@prebenist This is absurd. I don't have to claim theism is false, you have to prove that it is true. Lets get that straight. Also, do you know the difference between deism and theism? You have to prove that god interacts with us.
DubGongTuff 1 year ago
@DubGongTuff
I dont know the difference, but i know there is a reason to belive in god. you can see the debates if you dont belive me. I cant deside if that is enough proofs for you to belive, but it is for me.
prebenist 1 year ago
@prebenist If you don't know the difference then you really don't have room to speak. Any one can have a personal god, doesn't make it right and doesn't make it true. You can believe in one all you want, just don't tell me you know what he wants and how I should live.
Learn the difference between Deism and Theism.
DubGongTuff 1 year ago
"An atheist doesn't call what is beyond his intelligence & knowledge a "god", he views it as a place to explore and learn; not worship or pray to."- Me
mechanicmike69 1 year ago 2
You can so tell Pakman is a stoner LOL... he's always laughing and smiling haha. Seems like a cool guy.
dazza2151 1 year ago
exact same story for me. I always queried how the hell man was made from dirt and a boat filled with a pair of every damn species got onto a boat. Life makes perfect sense when viewed scientifically.
kamikrazi123 1 year ago
Hey you did good Silverman - you took the high road - it's ok - we all get that- you are great
robotaholic 1 year ago
I think that David is not a very good speaker. There could be a more eloquent representative of American atheists.
emeralds222 1 year ago
what?? Where is this convention I must be there!
Athiest2009 1 year ago
only cool people are atheists.
elitemathlete 1 year ago
@elitemathlete There are some dorky atheist too.
okieoneshinobi 1 year ago
What was that at the end?
eswyatt 1 year ago
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galorize12rt 1 year ago
An Atheist believes there is no God. An Agnostic just doesn't care.
okieoneshinobi 1 year ago
@okieoneshinobi Well kind of. As an atheist I don't believe in any of the gods dreamed up by man. As an agnostic I acknowledge that I do not know that a god(s) do not exist.
robvlob 1 year ago
Atheists are funny. I like when they complain about crazy Christian leaders.
okieoneshinobi 1 year ago
What did you edit out there guys?
Mahoivlich 1 year ago
@Stwatubes STOP! STOP! You're doing it again!
TheFunkadelicFan 1 year ago
@Stwatubes You make me lol and lol!
TheFunkadelicFan 1 year ago
The vast majority of people who call themselves agnostic just don't know what it means and are in fact atheists
BrightonContrarian10 1 year ago
@BrightonContrarian10 Yeah that's the case some of the time other times people choose that term because of the ignorance of others about what atheism means. They just want to avoid the confrontation or just don't want to repeat themselves countless times to those ignoramuses who don't want to accept there is a definition other than their biased definition of atheism.
robvlob 1 year ago
People should stop misusing the term agnostic. It does not refer to a kind of attenuated atheism. The term means "no knowledge, no knowing" and was coined by Thomas Huxley who believed that the existence or non-existence of supernatural entities was neither in practice nor in principle a problem solvable by the human mind.
jimtrueblue99 1 year ago
@jimtrueblue99
Yeah.. I'm agnostic toward the Tooth Fairy, Santa, Zeus, Thor..
In fact agnosticism is most often a "self imposed characterization" between believing and not believing in god. Kind of a mourning transition.
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robvlob 1 year ago
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@jimtrueblue99
If one doesn't believe in god(s) but acknowledge that they don't and can't know of their non existence what does that make them?
I one doesn't believe in god(s) & claims to know of their non existence what does that make them?
If one believes in god(s) but acknowledge that they don't and can't know of their existence what does that make them?
If one does believe in god(s) & claims to know of their existence what does that make them?
There r levels of atheism, agnostic is 1
robvlob 1 year ago
That is interesting. I've always wondered if O'Reilly is as stupid as he acts on his show. According to this guy, when the camera is off, O'Reilly is courteous and intelligent. And when the camera goes on, O'Reilly instantly becomes an ignorant asshole. What kind of person is willing to convince the world he is anti-intellectual blowhard just for money. I suppose O'Reilly doesn't care because he just laughs all the way to the bank.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago
u have to talk over idiots like Bill'O the clown... that is what they do every time they have these interviews ...maybe if these atheists got some morals they wouldn't be working at the criminal FOX fake terrorist news
xadam2dudex 1 year ago
FILTHY ATHEIST SCUM!
frictionRx5 1 year ago
@frictionRx5 I hear Atheists eat Christian babies.
okieoneshinobi 1 year ago
@okieoneshinobi If they avoid being burned at the stake or stoned to death by Christians, only then can the enjoy a tasty Christian baby.
robvlob 1 year ago
This interview convinced me to subscribe!
starkweather444 1 year ago 3
The Flying Spaghetti Monster, laughs at you all...(sauce goes on,sauce goes off)
grendelcatt 1 year ago 17
Fox hosts like O'Reilly and Hannity have a team of producers speaking into that little ear-bud feeding them information and strategy as the segment progresses. Only the most sharp-minded and agressive debaters have a chance at making any points on their shows.
getplaning 1 year ago
I love how he couldn't stop laughing for ages...
SneakyDudeBG 1 year ago
Agnosticism means lack of knowledge or thinking there is the lack of ability to know whether or not there is a God. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in any god, that is all....kazooga1234 is completely wrong. Someone can be atheist and agnostic.
mistacramer 1 year ago
no its not agonistic means that there might be a god and atheist means that there is 100% no god its impossible for there to be a god and i cant stand people who are trying to push it into one catagory because i like to be able to say i am atheist and not have people say well do you think its possible for there to be a god when atheist on its own means its impossible for there to be a god
kazooga1234 1 year ago
you and cenk are both agnostic and cenk would even say this guy is wrong to put agnostic and atheist in the same catagory i forgot what the 4th thing that pisses me off is but this is it and i cant stand guys like this because once upon a time i was agnostic but now i am atheist because i no that there cant be a god its impossible
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 Have you never heard of an agnostic atheist? Agnosticism is a statement of knowledge--it means you don't know whether or not a god exists. Atheism is a statement of belief--it means you don't believe a god exists. Therefore, an agnostic atheist doesn't believe god exists, but thinks it's arrogant to assume it's utterly impossible.
If you say you KNOW it's impossible for a god to exist, then that makes you a gnostic atheist, which in my opinion is almost as bad is a gnostic theist.
nemo3590 1 year ago
@nemo3590 thats an oxymoron its impossible to be and agnostic atheist because atheist means 100% cant be a god there cant be anything out there i am atheist i know what i am talking about and i wish that people like you would stop butchering the deffintions that where set in place to seperate all of them
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 I have an English degree with a focus on linguistics and syntax, and I've taken a particular interest in the meaning of those words. I am also an atheist, but unlike you, I DO know what I'm talking about. You need to learn the difference between belief and knowledge. You can go on spouting your opinion on the words, but that doesn't make you right, it just makes you look like an idiot. I can name several English professors and hordes of dictionaries that would disagree with you.
nemo3590 1 year ago
@nemo3590 i no exactly what i am talking about because A means no and THEIST means god to be more exact 100% god and if you look up the shittest deffintion of the word atheist it says no god and if you think its possible for there to be a god or if you believe in mother nature then you are agnostic i went over this in my classes as well you are the fucking idiot for not knowing the deffitions and trying to fuck with them eventhough they where set in place for a reason all 3 of them and i have
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@nemo3590 (continue) many dictionarys including a 1935 dictionary i bet you never even seen one of those so it shows that you dont no what you are talking about because if you did you would no that 100% belief in god is theist atheist is 100% impossible for there to be a god and agnostic is everything inbetween because you cant say that it is possible for there to be a god and that there is no god because thats a mother fucking oxymoron and you are an oxymoron -oxy
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 I just went through 20 dictionaries for the hell of it, and they all defined theism as a "BELIEF in a god or gods, not simply "god." Therefore a-theism = "no belief in god." Not "Absolutely know 100% that there is no god." BELIEF=/= KNOWLEDGE!!!
Also, if you're going to argue your point and claim to know what you're talking about, do you think you could bother to spell one or two words correctly? It would really help your credibility. I'm literally laughing at you over here.
nemo3590 1 year ago
i need to keep commenting because this guy has no idea what the deffintion of agnostic is its just that there might be a god thats all that agnostic means it means you think its possible even if you look up the worst made deffinition for atheist it says no god and if you are agnostic it takes away the no god by saying there might be a god or some higher power atheists dont believe that and anybody who is trying to push agnostic and atheist into the same catagory piss me because they r different
kazooga1234 1 year ago
that guy is an idiot hes agnostic himself and not an atheist and doesnt understand what an atheist is because i am and i was agnsotic because i was like david and now i decided that there cant be a god at all will i ever go back to being spirital and go back to being agnostic i dont no i am an atheist for now and all agnostic says is there might be a god or a higher power atheist says no such thing can exist and i cant stand that guy
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 Bullshit! Are you a theist? No? Then you're an atheist, it's that simple. Buddhists can even qualify as atheists. It's a pretty useless word.
Nomiss9 1 year ago
@Nomiss9 no true at fucking all atheist means 100% no god not fucking possible agnostic says that its possible for there to be a god and if you say that there could be a god then you have a god here i will prove it with the weakest deffintions of both agnostic s deffiniton: a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study. also if you knew anything about words you would no that a means no and theist means god so that on its own means no god and if you
kazooga1234 1 year ago
(continue) look at the deffintion of agnostic then it says that you cant be atheist if you believe there is a possiblity of a god because atheist means no god there for if you are agnostic you has a god so fuck you i am atheist and anybody who says there could be a god or a higher power isnt
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 Atheism is non-theism, just like asexual is non-sexual. Agnosticism means without knowledge (a = without, gnosis = knowledge). If you think there could possibly be a god, but you don't have a belief in one, you're an agnostic atheist. If you're not sexual you're asexual!
Nomiss9 1 year ago
@Nomiss9 no a means no theist means god and the deffintion in the dictionary in the weakest one says no god and if you are agnostic then you have a god you are a fucking moron because it shows you never once looked up the deffintions and you cant have a god and say that there is no god and just by saying its possible means that you have a god you might not worship it but you believe one could be out there learn the deffinitions
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 A means without, THEOS means god, THEISM is belief in one or multiple gods. What are you if you've grown up in the jungle and never even heard about gods? You're an atheist, because you're not a theist, because you don't even know what a god is.
Nomiss9 1 year ago
no A on its own means no and theist on its own means god and when you put atheist together it means no god and thats why in a lot of deffintions even at wikipeada witch sucks for deffintions just says that atheist means no god and it shows you never once looked up the deffintions and cenk from TYT would also say that david is agnostic because he is and he also says that atheist is different then agnostic so fuck you and do some legit research i am atheist 100% no god cant be a god its impossible
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 Fail.
Nomiss9 1 year ago
you are the fail what i am saying is facts you have to look up the deffintions to understand what i am saying agnostic means that there could be a god or some higher power and i no that caz i was agnostic my percentage kept going up and down but then i was an atheist after some time of being a very low percentage of agnostic just saying there could be a god also if you believe in mother nature you are agnostic not atheist i am athiest 100% no god there cant be impossible for there to be a god
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@Nomiss9 i am also telling you what i learnt in my school because people wouldnt leave my friend who is also an atheist like me alone at the time i was agnostic though and they kept asking her if she thought ti was possible for there to be a god she kept saying she was atheist because atheist means 100% cant be a god god cant fucking exist you peice of shit stop just saying fail when you havent even looked up the deffintions
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 The reason I only said "Fail." was because you said that theism means god. That's simply wrong, theos is the Greek word for god, look it up. You seem to be willfully ignorant.
Nomiss9 1 year ago
@Nomiss9 no i said theist means god and it does theist means that you 100% believe in god and a means no so atheist means 100% impossible for there to be a god
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 Right, "theist". Unfortunately for you, theist doesn't mean god either. Try again.
Nomiss9 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 Oh by the way, does this mean that Christians (who are theists) are gods themselves? Just curious.
Nomiss9 1 year ago
@Nomiss9 well nanalew believes that and she says that she is theist so yes if you say there is 100% that there is a god then yes even ask nanalew and thats her sn and you dont mess with her god either and there are some chirstains that just call themselves chirstain because its how they grew up but dont know what they believe
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 Didn't completely understand some parts of that comment, but are you saying that atheists are "no gods", and theists are gods??? ROFLMFAO! What are you smoking?
Nomiss9 1 year ago
@Nomiss9 im not smoking anything go look up the deffintions A means no and THEIST means 100% god and when you put them together you have the word atheist meaning NO 100% GOD and to make it gramatical its 100% no god or impossible for there to be a god and agnostic says that there could be a god and if you think there could be a god then you have a god and its not the 100% no god like atheist says my aunts also an atheist
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 All right, man! xD
Nomiss9 1 year ago
@Nomiss9 i think the 1995 dictionarys have the best deffintions because that was before they tried to push atheist to mean agnostic but thats just if you even care to do your own research
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 I honestly don't care if some fucking Bible thumper defines it as "devil worshipper" or "baby eater". If you look up the words theism, theos and gnosis individually and understand that the "a" means "without", the meaning is fucking obvious. Oh, and I already understand that you're not interested in facts. You've already made up your mind and are trying to find definitions that agree with you, but maybe someone else reading the comments cares.
Nomiss9 1 year ago
shes not a bible thumper she is just a theist not all theist/chirstains are bible thumpers and she is just a theist thats a chirstain there are a lot of different types of theists there are some theists that dont even choose a god or a deity they are just 100% sure that there is something out their weather its a god or something else and A on its own means NO there are so many people that have told me that and theist on its own means god and atheist means no god you never once looked this up
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 Theism means believing in one or multiple gods/deities, so once again you fail spectacularly, Captain Fail. Also, I don't care if Santa Claus himself told you that theist means god, it doesn't make it true. Look it up or shut up.
Nomiss9 1 year ago
@Nomiss9 no it doesnt theist means that there is 100% that there is a god and people need to stop fucking with the deffintions because they where set up like they where for a reason nanalew is a theist because she says that its 100% that there is a god she says she cant prove it but in her heart she knows that its there and i am an atheist and know 100% there isnt a god so fuck you because everything inbetween is aganostic
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 I'm a fucking retard for coming back here, but this time I'm leaving for real. Bye. :P
Nomiss9 1 year ago
@Nomiss9 you are retarded for not actually reading the dictionary i bet you dont know what two-tail-tom-cats means either
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 Nobody is 100% sure either way.
okieoneshinobi 1 year ago
@okieoneshinobi i am 100% sure there is no god thats why i am an atheist same with my aunt and my best friend analou not to get confussed with nanalew who is 100% sure there is a god and thats why she is theist
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 the whole 100% thing is kind of silly. It is like saying I am 100% sure sure that Sarah Palin will never be president, we all hope and believe that is the case, but plenty of idiots live her.
okieoneshinobi 1 year ago
@okieoneshinobi its not silly nanalew (thats shawna's sn) is theist meaning that she 100% believes that there is a god and i am exact opposite of her like 1 of my friends and my aunt i am atheist as in 100% impossible for there to be a god there cant be no way no how and if you dont like it go suck your own cock because i know 100% that there is no god
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 No need to get angry. You "hard core" atheists are silly since you hold your belief in an absence of a creator at least as seriously as the most devout Christian. You are definitely entitled to your belief. I respect that an think that it is important for you Atheists to point out when fruitloops on the theist side get out of hand. Either way God loves Atheists and Theists alike, so it is not for me to judge. I am 100% sure there is no Santa, does that mean I don't get any presents
okieoneshinobi 1 year ago
@okie its not hard core its just atheist you stupid fucker and yes i do get pissed off about this because this is one of the 4 things that piss me off is people trying to change deffintions that where set up for a reason a long time ago and athiest just means 100% no god and agnositic means there could be a god and theist means 100% there is a god and the deffintions need to stay that way because if you get rid of the word atheist there is nothing saying 100% impossible for there to be a god and
kazooga1234 1 year ago
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SmogHouseTradingCo 1 year ago
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SmogHouseTradingCo 1 year ago
@okieoneshinobi (continue) there needs to be only 1 word for that because of people like me my aunt and my friend and the word theist needs to be 100% that there is a god for people like nanalew who believe that there is a god and no doubt in her mind that there is one
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 All right, I'm going to give a very abstract analogy but I hope it helps your understanding. You have a math equation, and you want to find out from people on the street what their reaction to the equation is by testing them. There are 4 ways people can react, people can get the equation right(atheist), people can get it wrong(theist), people will give up (agnostic) and people will not take the test (apatheist). If you ask anyone who knows, they will tell you apatheists are atheists
SmogHouseTradingCo 1 year ago
@SmogHouseTradingCo even in the comment sections where people try to defend the shit that you do they still say that A means NO and theist means GOD and that atheist means no god but what they dont understand is if you have no god that means that there cant be a possiblity of a god because if you think its possible for there to be a god then you have a fucking god
kazooga1234 1 year ago
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