i think both sides of the debate are important. Yes porn is harmless fun but it will only ever be a fantasy.. Personally i think sex is over rated in todays society
I understand if you agree or disagree with Ron Jeremy but he doesn't know how to talk in a respectful manner. At least Craig treats everyone on the stage with respect.
the pastor and the guy whose marriage was ruined are right and jeremey and the chick are wrong plain and simple...jeremy and the chick dont even have any valid points...and while shes talking about choices...yea so u did girl girl when u first came in and not boy girl, so I guess that makes that better???
@Atypical82 Your arguments are not cogent, your writing is confusing and you haven't actually proven any of your points. The ex-producers arguments were strawman fallacies and the pastor argued using incorrect information and appealing to emotion - pulling on heart strings doesn't make something true.
@xXJohnSmithXxaf what?! i have to ask you did you remember to turn on the sound when you watched this video? there was nothing emotional at all, the pastor and ex pastor were the most rational and calm, the other two were impetuous, and the porn producer was really bombastic, like he had to really raise his volume to prove his point?!
I like the starting question .. it is true and it does effect sex relation between two people.. we humans tend to expand and have a rich imagination in-general so imagine in sex fantasies, it gets really crazy and now when this fantasy is not met (which won't be HIGHLY) by your partner, you wont' enjoy ur sex and would rather watch a sex movie and do it to urself!!! plus the fact that sex destroys the true meaning of it which is to express LOVE with ur partner and have pleasure together.
Totally bullshit ron's talking. Is anything considered bad to him. I cant believe how distorted a pornstar's thinking is. They even say its okay to have sex while with your wife, "you seperate it". What the fuck, i cant believe their thinking. How can you let your wife have sex with many men and be okay with it, i just think thats worse than animals. Its your fucking wife, man. Theres no way ron can convince anyone with his points, his thinking is totally wrong and porn did that to him.
You dumbfuck monique what the fuck you talking about im not making fun. You dumbfuck your in no position to make fun being a pornstar, the most disrespectful human being on the planet. People make fun of you bitch, you cant even say im not making fun. Haha what a fuckn joke.
Wow, even if someone comes out of porn without harm which i doubt, exactly what does that get them in the end for toring apart their body, their respect, and being a better person. The problem of porn will not be stopped unless the government bans it. The problem of choice will not arise if its not there.
@mabeg11 I completely agree. We need to remove the option for people to make decisions for themselves based on the poor decision making of parts of the population. In fact, we should just throw out. Fuck the entire Bill of Rights as well, because we don't need freedoms when the government tells us what to do based off a sample of its citizens.
Great thinking, champ, because the rest of us are obviously all too stupid to think for ourselves.
They are so dumb: to illegalize prostitution and let porn off the hook, whats the difference, cameras and both parties being payed. There absolutely should be an exception to the first amendment for the freedom of speech. So, it is okay to the govenment if many people are getting hurted, addictions, drugs, dignity, respect, values, beliefs are being ruined by this porn industry. And imagine where they could be spending that 14 billions dollars. Man this is damaging, why cant they see that
@mabeg111 When we start making exceptions to the first amendment, we start removing our freedoms. It is our choice to look at porn, and prostitution should also be our choice so long as it is between two consenting adults. The problem isn't the porn industry, it's SOME of the people who watch it.
I don't believe prostitution should be illegal, personally. I wouldn't participate, but I just don't see any justification for making it illegal seeing as it is our chose to pay for consensual sex.
@mabeg111 I thought the sarcasm was pretty obvious when I started talking about how we shouldn't be allowed to make our own decisions and we should throw out the Bill of Rights.
Now your really making yourself dumb. Your on expert on changing the subject and throw out some random shit to prove your wrong statement right. Bullshit, it wasnt obvious. You said two different things. Either you agree with me or you dont, make your mind up dude but dont say two different things.
@mabeg111 You are really bad at the English language. I'm just going to stop here because you don't even have the intelligence to know you were being insulted from the first sentence of my first comment here all the way to now. It's just no fun when you have no idea what's going on because you can't read or write.
Shut your bitch ass up. Your just so fuckn dumb. My english is perfectly fine as far as youtube is concerned. I just need it to get it through your dumbass head. Dude you cant confuse me, you dont even know what the fuck your talking about bitch. Why the fuck you said completely agree. You motherfucker just dont want to make yourself look more dumb by stepping out. Grow the fuck up bitch.
@mabeg111 You are really getting up in arms about a sarcastic comment and me pointing out why you are an illiterate and a complete tool who cannot form any sort of opinion for himself.
They need to consider getting REAL JOBS! Because sex and pornography are too different things in my eyes as the reality is always different to the ''fantasy''. I am a busty curvy black woman and I get alot of grief because this bullshit!!!! STOP DEHUMANIZING WOMEN IN PORN BECAUSE YOU'RE MAKING IT HARDER FOR THE REST OF US!!!!11
This woman is a retard, it isnt the fact that her husband is working with ''beautiful women''. Its the fact that her husband is in an environment fuelled by elicit sexual activity WHICH IS WRONG. Sex is meant to be a beautiful intimate moment between consenting adults which have much love and/or respect for one another. Porn is dehumanizing in the sense that it takes away the sensuality and beauty from sex. If they depicted sex as a beautiful romantic and wonderful thing no one would complain.
@klacklery Because of sexually repressed, judgmental people who feel threatened and scared by it. Probably also because we have sex in secret too, does that make all sex wrong because we can't do it in public?
Ron becomes rather indignant when criticized. Monique is extremely conceited and deluded to suggest that women in porn are beautiful because she's far from attractive-make up and camera angles do wonders for these women.
Minor off-topic point - it is beyond ridiculous that they are bleeping out so many words in this debate. When will people learn to be grown ups and realise that words have no magical power to them? It's fucking asinine to stage this discussion, on this particular topic...and then censor the "dirty" words associated with it.
Ron Jeremy, you said that your life is fulfilling, then why are you eating emotionally? When you are that fat it's a sign of emotional instability. You can't lie to an educated person who studies human behavior.
Honestly, there were times when I had sex with a girl and was kind of let down by the expierence because it didn't equal to what I saw in videos. And there were times when I was blown away by certain girls and they rocked my world more than any porn video could. Lets be honest, sex in and of itself won't always be amazing or great, it completely depends on the person you do it with and how you feel about each other.
Porn is nothing but abuse..whether volitional or not...Jesus would not approve of Porn and it is damaging to people..people that use it and people that make it...
You cant stop porn. You may believe it is wrong and that is your view and I respect that. But you are not going to stop a billion dollar industry let alone the human instinct to lust. It's just the way we have been programmed. Look at the alcohol industry. It destroys so many lives too as does smoking, guns, etc. but its all about accountability and if someone is not able to take responsibility for the consequences of their choices then they have no one but themselves to blame.
@theg0lden1 so because a lot of of people watch porn does that make it ok does it? because our fellow man makes a bad choice/decision does that mean we dont help him does it? The fact that porn makes a lot of money, does that make it ok?
@tyronelasersynth I never said that it was ok. You do bring up a valid point. I'm just saying that it is nigh impossible to completely erase an industry that exploits a primal drive. Whatever way you want to deal with it is up to you. Thank you for not being a bigot and merely saying "fuck you you're wrong" youtube seems to be filled with people like that today. ^o^
@theg0lden1 All good Brother, im defiantly for hearing both points of view so that i can make more of an informed choice about porn, that means hearing the stuff about porn that people dont like to hear:) And i dont go to church myself, but when Jesus engaged with his emimies, he did it by engaging with there intellect, and they(religious people, who were the worst of the worst in that time)just got even more angry with him. They weren't willing to accept change:-)
I have no horse in this race, I'm not a Christian and I'm certainly not a pornstar, but looking at these two sides here, it seems to me both sides are full of it. To them, porn is either all good or all bad. Porn can be many things, but it really depends on how the individual chooses to perceive it. People need to be responsible for their actions and be careful what they do in life. I know if my mother or daughter sucked cock for a living, I'd be hurt by it. Sex is always gonna be personal.
I don't understand what's wrong with porn, all porn is portraying is sex, if people are trying to "eradicate" porn why don't you also eradicate 90% of Hollywood as well as all of the other media. Music, TV, etc., it all has some sort of depiction of sex, it may be graphic or subtle but it's all there.
Porn is just the rawest form.
People complaining about porn are fucking immature.
Psychologists say that our human brains tend to associate excited emotional states with sexual and romantic arousal. This is why the more evangelical Christians make sex out to be "dirty" "deviant" "shameful" or whatever their sex obsessed minds can think of, the more they themselves can't get off the topic of sex. If "deviant" sex acts are no longer considered taboo, people won't find them as exciting and people won't be addicted to porn or sex anymore.
I think Craig has a very strong standpoint with his website and soft ware with that many users. Ron can name a few girls who've made great lives out of the business but compared to the amount of people who say it's a problem and seeking help is no comparison. I may not know the exact ratio, but my guess would be that Craig is right and it's not backwards as Ron suggests
Enough with the beeping. Sometimes you cannot even follow the conversation.
Aside from that, I do not agree with Monique that those people ended up having all those problems just because they made their choice and that is the end of the story. First off, your choices are affected by a number of things you are not aware of. Just blaming them on their choices is simplistic and disrespectful. Besides, what makes it objectively good to start by doing girl/girl?
My ex was addicted to porn, and sex with him was crap. He was so lost in his addiction he lost touch with how to have sex with a woman in the flesh. I watch porn every now and then, and at the beginning I learnt some "tricks" when I did not know much, later it bored me witless and I no longer watch it (not for the past 10 years or so). It's just like drugs, it sucks you in and make you live in a world of your own fantasy and THEN ask your partner to live up to it.
@DakotaJanes I watch porn 3 times a day and masturbate constantly, whenever I am not having sex, working out, going on a date, running my business, or just doing normal stuff.
Your ex was an idiot. I have used porn to fuel me in the right way.
I learned that women CAN get off on anal sex through hundreds of experiences (with the same women many times over again) and that they CAN get multiple orgasms (through either hole, sometimes) etc.
(cont.) One could (and should) take a sensible and sex-positive view of the matter and avert a lot unnecessary problems. Christianity creates these problems for itself.
So much of the supposed destructive effects of porn use on the user undoubtedly results from irrational and unhealthy beliefs pertaining to sex. This is especially the case with Christians like the ones this youth pastor represents. When you believe that masturbation and looking at naked women is sinful and will land you in hell and you're a teenager or young adult you have made for yourself a situation in which you are at war with yourself.
@essbee2334 Amen!! I lost 2 wives and have had many relationship and problems because of it. Your comment is so true that porn removes the intimacy couples need. I hope one day I find a woman who will understand where I have been and work with me to build intimacy between us.
@freespeachrulez This is why I'll only date women with a more sexually mature attitude. My current girlfriend and I have been sharing porn and erotic art with each other for over 5 years. When one of us finds something we know the other will find to be hot, we show it to them. It's allowed us to talk more openly and hasn't caused problems in our sex life at all. This is possible because we treat it like every other form of media, we don't watch Harry Potter and then expect to go to Hogwarts.
@essbee2334 Indeed. I never wanted to see rape, insect, cumshots, hitting, choking, double penetration, anal sex, orgies or anything like that. All I wanted to see is two lovers kissing and making love in natural and comfortable positions and cuddling and caressing each other afterwards. But I never really saw anything like that.
I say americans because, we distribute so much of it legally and not in an art form to private viewers but as a commoditee that 'everyone' see's as just another vice. It's the fact that it's here in it's quantity and attainability that is truly disturbing. Marketed as 'no big deal', and in plain sight. When i drive down the road and see a porn store, or adult media outlet, it sickens me. These stores are legal, when they shouldn't be. But if there's money to be made, they will do so. It's wrong.
When you see the porn industry defending itself, it's not doing so honestly as individuals. It's a business. A corporation, that's not looking for rights and freedom, it's seeking profit from the path it choose.
I see Ron Jermey and this woman saying "People who chose to do the hardcore things or view porn, made their own decisions", but all I hear is "I chose to do porn, and now I have to defend it." When millions of other Americans made the decision not to.
18 years old might be considered legally adult, but in my opinion thats not true. Especially in the society we live in where our education system is so skewed, and unequal. Your parents work all day away from you, you pull behavior and lifestyles from your PEERS who know as little or less than you, and a government that doesn't care about you who is contracted with companies approves your smoking and drinking age, both which kill. The issue isn't if it's legal it's okay, it's NOT okay ever.
@bcn533 No shit. Or how about the young families who's tax money, 90% of which, goes to the military. Could have been used to educate these morons, but we perpetuate the beat off machine by keeping them dumb and numb.
I’m going to be honest and say that as a female porn watcher, I am constantly disappointed in reality by the reality of how small most mens penises are compared to the penises you see in porn. So to that extent, yes I would say, porn is better than real sex in terms of penises at least.
@Alora99 as a male, and as a response based on your comment; the irony for me is that reality is a pleasant surprise in comparison to porn. Women IRL are in much better "shape", and look much more attractive than porn stars simply because they dont have the "bad aura". However i also agree that IRL, and on average, men in porn are larger in size. That is however due to the many harmfull treatments they use - and no man should be expected to put themselves under such risk just to please a partner
Craig says 76% of people who watch porn watch it alone, so that still means 24% watch it with another person. But since both sides are saying that a lot of people watch porn (in the millions) and the amounts of hits it gets, isn't that still a lot of people not watching it alone? It's not like it's a small sample space to take from.
7:21 - Yes, she was smart enough to say no... but she was probably not in a financial situation where she was desperate for money. Some people who get into porn are desperate for money and will do everything in order to get it to get some stress off them. So.... I think Monique's point is not as valid. because some people make these decisions without thinking about the consequesnces
@emFF5luver everything can ruin lives if you get too much of it. Just like alcohol. There's nothing wrong with porn in and of itself. Let people take some god damn responsibility for their lives. Some people are addicted to playing videogames and get their lives ruined, that doesn't mean the videogames are bad or evil.
@emFF5luver Porn is a lot like religion, it's power stuff and some people can't handle it. Nearly everything in this debate can be compared to religion. Hundreds of people commit suicide over their religious beliefs, so should we ban religion?
@christo930 I'm not exactly sure how your reply about religion ties in to my comment, but no I don't think that we should ban religion. Some religious people commit suicide, sure, but I would guess that most of that has to do with depression and other issues in life, not "I'm [insert religion] and today I'm going to commit suicide because of that." Religion gives people a hope and reason to live 99% of the time. Porn does not. It tears relationships apart.
@emFF5luver I was trying to point out that the problem isn't porn, it's the person. Religion, when abused, destroys families, has caused many wars and invasions, acts of terrorism, depression, anxiety, etc... I was talking about suicide bombings. Not only are people killing themselves over religion, they are killing others as well.
@christo930 I agree about suicide bombing and stuff like that. But that tends to be extremists, not in general. I get what you're saying about the person being the problem, people definitely abuse porn. I just don't think it's a good thing for anyone to get started in because eventually it just overcomes a person. I've seen it happen.
@emFF5luver I have seen religion destroy families. I have seen mothers disown their kids because the kid goes with another religion or no religion at all. I have seen marriages broken up that way. And I am not trying to pick on religion because this could happen to nearly anything. I very, very occasionally watch porn and usually with my wife. I don't think we should ban religion for the actions of relative few and I feel the same thing about religion.
@christo930 I get what you're saying. And it's sad that stuff like that does happen because of religion, because it shouldn't. The same way relationships shouldn't be ruined because of porn. It's good that your marriage hasn't suffered because of that, but way too many are ruined from porn. And that's why I don't like it.
@emFF5luver So it's sad when religion brakes up families, but if porn does, it's got to go? I also seriously doubt that porn breaks up good marriages Of those it does, it's usually because of one partner's jealousy or inability to deal with it and they put an ultimatum on their spouse and the person receives the threat and doesn't respond well, but how many people respond well to ultimatum. Maybe the opposition spouse should understand their spouse better. If neglect becomes a problem, then OK
@christo930 Okay listen. You replied to a comment I left half a YEAR ago. I'm tired of talking in circles. You asked my opinion and I gave it, even when your reply had nothing to do with my actual comment. I hate porn. I don't think it does good things for anyone in any circumstance. Accept that and quit trying to change my opinion. Why should someone in a marriage be expected to accept their husband/wife looking at another person anyway? That's hardly fair and it's hardly keeping the 'faithful'
@emFF5luver "I don't think it does good things for anyone in any circumstance. ". Like other religious people, you already know everything and no amount of evidence is ever going to change your mind because you decided, with your limited knowledge on the subject, that you are already an expert. When it is pointed out that something YOU are involved in has the same possible outcomes as obsessive porn, you have nothing to say and hide behind your "feelings". YOU put out YOUR opinion, not me.
@christo930 (2/2) promise that was made. (In the case of a marriage.) Reply if you want but that's really all I have to say. You're not going to change my opinion.
@emFF5luver Then why don't you just admit that you hate porn and have no real reason other than hating it. You can't demonstrate that it causes harm, you can't demonstrate that it's any worse than any other potentially addictive behavior? Stop trying to dress up your hatred as being based on science and admit is is largely religious!
@emFF5luver "Ron Jeremy keeps getting mad and defensive. The other two guys are a lot better to listen to cause they stay calm."
Well of course, that's because they are on the defensive, as Jeremy explained at the beginning. THEY are the ones who have to respond to the accusation that the thing they dedicated their lives to is wicked.
@emFF5luver porn doesn't ruin lives, its the addiction that ruins lives. One must control the addiction otherwise they are at fault. All faults begin from within and until it can be proven that they are no longer able to control then it is the porns fault. All addictions are controllable which is evident in the willing away of addictions such as drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, coffee etc. Sure porn tempts but it does not embellish the addiction, the user does.
@emFF5luver lol your person you know was addicted to porn. He ruined his life, not porn. Certain genres in porn are degrading to certain people and should not be done by certain people.
I have done hardcore things with women in a real relationship/sex life. I say to them YOU MUST COMMUNICATE OPENLY AND HONESTLY AT ALL TIMES. The safeword is radio. The instant there is an issue, I want you to tell me. Every single person told me if I went too far with something before it actually went far
@vduke with the exception of one. That person I had to stop for. I used my good judgement to stop. Despite a 30 minute talk and lecture about S&M and the need to COMMUNICATE she didn't. Sorry for using caps so much, but she SHOULD NOT BE DOING THAT.
S&M did not traumatize her and neither did I. She opened herself up for it by saying she wanted to do it and knew to communicate etc. I asked her 3 times if she wanted to stop and told her the safeword etc. and she said, "I KNOW"
@vduke then, I said I am stopping because i can see that you don't like it and you can't communicate. We cannot go any further in this way. She said what? And then I said, did you like what I did? She said, "kind of I guess". Then I said, "no, did you like what I did, yes or no". She said, no I didn't.
point being, she is like these people that despite built in safety systems, warnings, triple and quadruple checking that she understands, will go into a situation and be surprised.
@vduke I have literally said as a pickup line to a woman. "I want to spank you and do a rear naked choke hold while doing you anally" Only for her to be shocked when I suggested getting in bed with her three hours later.
It turned out she was a virgin.
Really? The FIRST thing I say to you is I want to fuck you up the ass and you are shocked when I want to get physical with you?
Honestly?
I can imagine that these women that are supposedly victimized in porn are the same way.
@vduke "Ok Monique, we are going to spank you and lightly slap you in the face and then we are going to do you anally and choke you until you tap out when you are on all fours. OK?"
OK Mr. Director, that works for me.
You understand that you can stop at anytime and that this is a rough scene?
Yes Mr. Director, I understand.
Scene begins:
WHY ARE YOU CHOKING ME?
That is how it goes...
You do get some people in the industry that are predators for real, however. That is life though
@vduke The PREDATORS in porn and the RAPE VICTIMS need to be dealt with and helped respectively.
Just like with alcohol. My dad drinks a lot of beer. Yingling did not get him addicted, Yingling is not going to kill him, and Yingling is not going to or did not make him impotent. (not saying he is). The beer did none of that.
He picked up the beer. He drank it. He had an intervention and chose his beer over his family and still chooses beer over his wife. Beer company or his fault?
@vduke Why are you leaving this story all over youtube? No one wants to hear that.
But since you've shared for all the world to see, this is disgusting. That's how you talk to a woman, another human being? You think that's okay? That's degrading and objectifying. If sex is all you think about (to the point where you use such a pickup line) then I feel sorry for you. You comments have absolutely nothing to do with the debate in this video, you're just defending your own problem.
@emFF5luver #1. It is a litmus test to see how they will respond, and it was online so it was not an in your face admission.
#2. I believe that I said I jerk off 2-3x a day and have sex, when I am not running my business, dating (not fucking, but dating), working out, hanging out with friends, etc. It is not all the time, it is about 2-3 hours a day, but that is not all the time. That is 1/8th the time.
@vduke You left a lot of comments, I probably haven't seen them all because youtube glitches all the time.
It's not 1/8th. Take away sleep, it's 2-3 hours of 16 hours that you're awake. Closer to a quarter of your waking time...and minus work, that's a ridiculous amount of free time spent on sex. Your life is completely based on it. Live it how you want, but you'll probably regret that one day. There is so much more to life than sex and you're throwing hours of your life away staring at porn.
@vduke #3 that was part of the debate. The debate was about addiction and is porn bad for you.
I just said how taking a few predators in the industry and a few victims and then blowing it out of proportion to make a representation of the entire 12 billion dollar business look bad is what these people are doing.
I believe you see me making parallels to how these woemn might completely not listen to anything said and be surprised at what is goign on. The christian guy himself said it.
@vduke The women that would sign the papers would be warned about what is going to happen, that the movies are going to be on the internet, so on so forth, yet they were surprised.
It literally goes like this... I know, because I did a gay porn.
Sir or Ma'am, you will be doing this that and this.
Most people say ok and understand.
These victims say I NEVER AGREED TO DOING THIS THAT AND THIS, even though they were literally being told about it 5 seconds before.
@vduke i would argue some more, but I had a really long day and just ended it by being the first person to successfully introduce anal sex into a woman's life. Not on;y was i successful. SHE WANTS IT AGAIN. First successful attempt in her fifteen years of having sex.
Perhaps you should listen to me when I speak, in these scenarios, because I am a professional.
Women are told what happens, most listen, others don't. The ones that think they were never told what was happening say victim.
I can't watch porn anymore after an insight into how everything actually goes down. Once you realize that the jaw clenching and moaning is actually pain disguised as pleasure, it just doesn't appeal anymore.
she keeps saying "people make their own choices" and completely ignoring the fact that the very option of making that choice is still there. point being, it's a BAD choice. when she says she didn't start out doing "boy/girl" because she couldn't handle it mentally, she sticks her foot in her mouth. in all fairness, her defenses are all pretty weak.
@spanisholives Oh My God chick! All shes saying is that you should know the consequences of the actions you take. Just because people judge you for those actions or you discover you cant handle it does not mean it is a "bad choice" for everyone. That is what your arguing right? That she contradicts herself by the implication that its a bad choice? Because the context only implys that its a bad choice for them personally, and that's all she saying.
Here are the facts morons!!!! If you take away porn men will imagine just as vivid if not more vivid fantasies in there own minds(while masterbating). OMG what will obsessive GIRLS and fearfull christians do then.... control your thoughts... Oh yeah christianity. Look people men are horny woman are hot... ah evolution... high libedo=procreation, procreation=survival of the species. It fills a need. NOT ALL MEN GET LAID YOU INCONSIDERATE BASTARDS... also a good prostitution argument.
@spanisholives It's not just that it's a bad choice, it's that they completely ignore the fact that they are SUGGESTING it's okay. They are INFLUENCING people. And make a PROFIT from it. We live without complete control. We don't raise our children in this nation in a single family, but as a society. What we see on the TV, on the computer, in school, in other peoples lifestyles. It's all effecting us. We don't have complete control of our decisions.
@spanisholives it wasn't a bad choice for her. It's not something you can blanket as being just good or bad, it depends on the person. Buying a horse is a BAD choice for some people, say people that live in apartments. People have to examine the career and decide if it's a good or bad choice for them. You can't do that for them.
She isn't ignoring the fact that the choice is there. She acknowledges it and explains that she didn't take it until she was ready. She approached the situation responsibly. You think the choice should be taken away? Alcohol can be harmful if a person abuses it. Should they not be allowed the choice? How many rock stars OD before they're 30? Should we disallow entry into the entertainment industry because not everyone handles it well? It's all about personal responsibility.
The only thing that is sex to me is penis and vagina connection. Even if you take the God factor out of the sex equation you have to be consciously blind to think any sexual contact with the anus is natural and not gross instinctively.
I keep to sticking my penis in my longtime partner's vagina. I would never stick my penis into anybody's anus regardless of their sex even if someone had a gun with bullets in it pointed at my head.
@mattowarrior Honestly, I'm not big on politics. But I will say that I tend to lean more towards republican ideals only because I'm conservative and they tend to be likewise. I only show interest in politics only where moral issues are conserned, and only then through a Christian worldview perspective. Now, as for you "going to hell for not accepting Christ", I would argue that Christ dying so you wouldn't have to go to hell is the ultimate show of compassion. According to the Bible, no one...
@boughtwithblood7 ...can earn their way to heaven because man is completely depraved. Every one has sinned. God was in no way obligated to save us, but He did anyway. Why? He loves us because He IS a compassionate God. I look foward to your video series.
@mattowarrior The logic in my argument is that we Christians see any sexual immorality as a sin. Therefore, any attempts to change the status of a sinful lifestyle with good deeds (i.e., charities) are completely usless. From the point of view, regarding Scripture, all works from a non-regenerate soul are, as the Bible puts it, like filthy rags to God. Its all about how someone measures up in the eyes of God... and no one does. If a murderer donated $1,000 to the victim's family, He's still ...
@boughtwithblood7 ... a murderer. My concern is that anyone who falls into this lifestyle and is hurt by it should be offered compassion and a WAY OUT. They still need God's forgiveness, but they should be ministered to and offered hope. The hope that is in Christ. Its very cannibalistic for Monique to quickly kick troubled teens, trying to leave the porn industry, to the curb. Wouldn't you agree?
Porn is choice. It should be allowed. But it should be banned from free access on internet and sold(not necessarily) after id verification, same as alcohol. Over 18 get all porn you want, under - sorry, wait until 18. End of story.
The fucking bleeping is soooooooooo fucking annoying. I'm adult, im not gonna be corrupted by language. There discussing porn for fuck sakes. whats a few naughty words gonna add to it.
Jeremy is a very sad and desperate individual who has craved mainstream acting success for two decades now, but failed, and it kills him, he's a failure, and he knows it, watch the documentary floating around about him if you don't believe it. There are some people who will do, or say, anything for money, it's really that simple, and the porn industry is full of such individuals. Porn is not about sex, it's about money, as long as capitalism dictates how we live this problem will remain.
@digimaton , My existence however vacuous (yes I know what it means Mr long words) was not in question , I was stating that someone who seems happy with their life, is financially secure and is liked by many people can't really be considered a failure in life, but to assume that his life didn't go the way he wanted it to when he was much younger must be killing him inside is a bit presumptuous (I can you long words as well)
@pithie84 i merely stated what is depicted in the documentary about Jeremy, which he actively participated in, so I don't get what your personal gripe is. As previously stated, some people will do or say anything for money, it's not a trait I find admirable; be it a politician or a pornographer. Nothing more needs to be said on the matter.
Are you guys fuck? Porn is gr8. Leave Ron Jeremy alone seriously... If you don't like porn I think you should leave. Go live in Iran you impotent bastards. Porn is awesome. Hail Ron jeremy and the master race and the fuhrerprinzip
the porn industry does not support all kinds of sex and fetishes! what about men with small average penises. 4-5 inches and not girthy at all. that is like 50% men all around the world. instead......What do i get to watch. SMALL PENIS HUMILATION. talk about discrimination and mindfucking the world of men shear and clear. then we have these lies about penis enlargement. fuck the porn industry and fuck these women in demand of big penis. fuckem.
Kind-hearted people try to help weak-minded people by taking away their ability to choose. Oh, sure the legal right is still there, so that looks good on paper. But the fact of the matter is- the use of guilt and the threat of hell takes away free will. Hell is a powerful social motivator.
Kind-hearted people try to help weak-minded people by taking away their ability to choose. Oh, sure the legal right is still there, so that looks good on paper. But the fact of the matter is- the use of guilt and the threat of hell takes away free will. Hell is a powerful social motivator.
@curious113307@curious113307 How do you reckon that people would be motivated by something in which they do not believe? Many people do not even believe in God, and even among those that do, many do not believe in eternal punishment. And more interestingly, even among those that believe in hell, it does not suffice in keeping them from doing evil - because 1) People feel they can always ask for forgiveness 2) The thought of hell does not stay in the minds of most believers consistently
@Dabrasz My problem is that these church people are trying to "protect" people from the freedom of personal choice. These church people are trying to motivate others by manipulating them to accept their beliefs with fear. If that doesn't work (and thank the Divine that some people are more intelligent than that), then they're the types to get the less intelligent republicans to make restrictive laws.
There is no good, there is no evil- there is only order and chaos.
Kind-hearted people think that weak-minded people cant make evolved choices so they try to take their free will away to "protect" them. Sometimes they use guilt and fear. Hell is a convenient social motivator.
theses pastors are telling u thr truth. worked in a porn store 4 years and now a christian. pornography is a trap of the devil himself. if u look at most of the film titles of pornography it is completely demonic..
you cant feel bad for some one who smokes and gets cancer because they should know theres a risk of getting cancer...if they dont mabey they should listent to the world around them...btw...listen to people...but only half way...
"go make money by selling drugs" listen but only half way "make money" yes do it
"by selling drugs" dont do it....you feel my thoughts people if you stupid its not your fault i feel sorry for your mistakes but please stop listening all
6:40 "Well that's their one problem, they are still making their own choice as an 18 year old person....They are taking the easy way out."
No 18 year olds are mature enough to make an adult decision. Also, the 2nd point, not everybody is given other options to get out of financial trouble.
This bitch is absolutely brain dead. She sounds like she was brought up with daddy buying her whatever expensive cars she wanted.
seriously, what have these ppl become after doing porn shows??? did they grow intellectually?? more responsible as a citizen? contribute to the society? common sense will tell u Porn is wrong.. but the world is twisted the truth and saying Porn is good for sex life.. lol.. w/o Love, what's sex is for??? mating??? just like animals?
These jokes are detracting from important debate time.
Aassymcass 2 weeks ago
i think both sides of the debate are important. Yes porn is harmless fun but it will only ever be a fantasy.. Personally i think sex is over rated in todays society
whiteyy2991 3 weeks ago
I understand if you agree or disagree with Ron Jeremy but he doesn't know how to talk in a respectful manner. At least Craig treats everyone on the stage with respect.
JayJewels93 1 month ago
Fuck this censorship bleeping
EugeneNesci 3 months ago
the pastor and the guy whose marriage was ruined are right and jeremey and the chick are wrong plain and simple...jeremy and the chick dont even have any valid points...and while shes talking about choices...yea so u did girl girl when u first came in and not boy girl, so I guess that makes that better???
Atypical82 3 months ago 4
@Atypical82 Your arguments are not cogent, your writing is confusing and you haven't actually proven any of your points. The ex-producers arguments were strawman fallacies and the pastor argued using incorrect information and appealing to emotion - pulling on heart strings doesn't make something true.
xXJohnSmithXxaf 2 months ago
@xXJohnSmithXxaf u watch porn
xCleverlyx 1 month ago
@xXJohnSmithXxaf what?! i have to ask you did you remember to turn on the sound when you watched this video? there was nothing emotional at all, the pastor and ex pastor were the most rational and calm, the other two were impetuous, and the porn producer was really bombastic, like he had to really raise his volume to prove his point?!
tyronelasersynth 1 month ago
ALL media is the work pf the tribe. They seek to destroy our society. Israel even uses it as psychwarfare.
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@6:00 LIER!! he hates his damn life! lol
1mACann0n 4 months ago
The audience is dumb ass fuck clapping on stupid shit as that whore monique tries to defend the porn industry.
mabeg111 4 months ago 3
I like the starting question .. it is true and it does effect sex relation between two people.. we humans tend to expand and have a rich imagination in-general so imagine in sex fantasies, it gets really crazy and now when this fantasy is not met (which won't be HIGHLY) by your partner, you wont' enjoy ur sex and would rather watch a sex movie and do it to urself!!! plus the fact that sex destroys the true meaning of it which is to express LOVE with ur partner and have pleasure together.
oliviamikhael20 4 months ago
Totally bullshit ron's talking. Is anything considered bad to him. I cant believe how distorted a pornstar's thinking is. They even say its okay to have sex while with your wife, "you seperate it". What the fuck, i cant believe their thinking. How can you let your wife have sex with many men and be okay with it, i just think thats worse than animals. Its your fucking wife, man. Theres no way ron can convince anyone with his points, his thinking is totally wrong and porn did that to him.
mabeg111 4 months ago
You dumbfuck monique what the fuck you talking about im not making fun. You dumbfuck your in no position to make fun being a pornstar, the most disrespectful human being on the planet. People make fun of you bitch, you cant even say im not making fun. Haha what a fuckn joke.
mabeg111 4 months ago
It's idiotic to censor a debate about porn.
Aqquila89 4 months ago 19
Wow, even if someone comes out of porn without harm which i doubt, exactly what does that get them in the end for toring apart their body, their respect, and being a better person. The problem of porn will not be stopped unless the government bans it. The problem of choice will not arise if its not there.
mabeg11 4 months ago
@mabeg11 I completely agree. We need to remove the option for people to make decisions for themselves based on the poor decision making of parts of the population. In fact, we should just throw out. Fuck the entire Bill of Rights as well, because we don't need freedoms when the government tells us what to do based off a sample of its citizens.
Great thinking, champ, because the rest of us are obviously all too stupid to think for ourselves.
TheBeesKneesIsDead 4 months ago
They are so dumb: to illegalize prostitution and let porn off the hook, whats the difference, cameras and both parties being payed. There absolutely should be an exception to the first amendment for the freedom of speech. So, it is okay to the govenment if many people are getting hurted, addictions, drugs, dignity, respect, values, beliefs are being ruined by this porn industry. And imagine where they could be spending that 14 billions dollars. Man this is damaging, why cant they see that
mabeg111 4 months ago
@mabeg111 Troll
DelinquentBilly 4 months ago
@mabeg111 When we start making exceptions to the first amendment, we start removing our freedoms. It is our choice to look at porn, and prostitution should also be our choice so long as it is between two consenting adults. The problem isn't the porn industry, it's SOME of the people who watch it.
I don't believe prostitution should be illegal, personally. I wouldn't participate, but I just don't see any justification for making it illegal seeing as it is our chose to pay for consensual sex.
TheBeesKneesIsDead 4 months ago
Haha i just dont get it, are you with me or against. Read your other comment. Haha
mabeg111 4 months ago
@mabeg111 I thought the sarcasm was pretty obvious when I started talking about how we shouldn't be allowed to make our own decisions and we should throw out the Bill of Rights.
TheBeesKneesIsDead 4 months ago
Now your really making yourself dumb. Your on expert on changing the subject and throw out some random shit to prove your wrong statement right. Bullshit, it wasnt obvious. You said two different things. Either you agree with me or you dont, make your mind up dude but dont say two different things.
mabeg111 4 months ago
@mabeg111 You are really bad at the English language. I'm just going to stop here because you don't even have the intelligence to know you were being insulted from the first sentence of my first comment here all the way to now. It's just no fun when you have no idea what's going on because you can't read or write.
TheBeesKneesIsDead 4 months ago
Shut your bitch ass up. Your just so fuckn dumb. My english is perfectly fine as far as youtube is concerned. I just need it to get it through your dumbass head. Dude you cant confuse me, you dont even know what the fuck your talking about bitch. Why the fuck you said completely agree. You motherfucker just dont want to make yourself look more dumb by stepping out. Grow the fuck up bitch.
mabeg111 4 months ago
Get your bitch ass out of here you coward. Four words for you LOSER. Grow your ass up for real you dumbfuck
mabeg111 4 months ago
@mabeg111 You are really getting up in arms about a sarcastic comment and me pointing out why you are an illiterate and a complete tool who cannot form any sort of opinion for himself.
All I have to say is this: u mad bro??
TheBeesKneesIsDead 4 months ago
They need to consider getting REAL JOBS! Because sex and pornography are too different things in my eyes as the reality is always different to the ''fantasy''. I am a busty curvy black woman and I get alot of grief because this bullshit!!!! STOP DEHUMANIZING WOMEN IN PORN BECAUSE YOU'RE MAKING IT HARDER FOR THE REST OF US!!!!11
Yolamonroe 5 months ago
@Yolamonroe
SHUT UP IM SICK OF U TALKING BULLSHIT... MAKE ME A SANDWICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
UndercoverLdn 5 months ago
This woman is a retard, it isnt the fact that her husband is working with ''beautiful women''. Its the fact that her husband is in an environment fuelled by elicit sexual activity WHICH IS WRONG. Sex is meant to be a beautiful intimate moment between consenting adults which have much love and/or respect for one another. Porn is dehumanizing in the sense that it takes away the sensuality and beauty from sex. If they depicted sex as a beautiful romantic and wonderful thing no one would complain.
Yolamonroe 5 months ago
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oscie1 5 months ago
If porn ok, then why do people watch it in secret? Because we all know it's wrong
klacklery 5 months ago
@klacklery Because of sexually repressed, judgmental people who feel threatened and scared by it. Probably also because we have sex in secret too, does that make all sex wrong because we can't do it in public?
TeaHermit 4 months ago
Ron becomes rather indignant when criticized. Monique is extremely conceited and deluded to suggest that women in porn are beautiful because she's far from attractive-make up and camera angles do wonders for these women.
muzzster1970 5 months ago
Minor off-topic point - it is beyond ridiculous that they are bleeping out so many words in this debate. When will people learn to be grown ups and realise that words have no magical power to them? It's fucking asinine to stage this discussion, on this particular topic...and then censor the "dirty" words associated with it.
nugget147 5 months ago
Ron Jeremy, you said that your life is fulfilling, then why are you eating emotionally? When you are that fat it's a sign of emotional instability. You can't lie to an educated person who studies human behavior.
stillonparolee 6 months ago
@stillonparolee
This is a hilarious comment, whether it was intended seriously or not.
nugget147 5 months ago
Honestly, there were times when I had sex with a girl and was kind of let down by the expierence because it didn't equal to what I saw in videos. And there were times when I was blown away by certain girls and they rocked my world more than any porn video could. Lets be honest, sex in and of itself won't always be amazing or great, it completely depends on the person you do it with and how you feel about each other.
okamasphere 6 months ago
Porn is nothing but abuse..whether volitional or not...Jesus would not approve of Porn and it is damaging to people..people that use it and people that make it...
doobersmanster 6 months ago
You cant stop porn. You may believe it is wrong and that is your view and I respect that. But you are not going to stop a billion dollar industry let alone the human instinct to lust. It's just the way we have been programmed. Look at the alcohol industry. It destroys so many lives too as does smoking, guns, etc. but its all about accountability and if someone is not able to take responsibility for the consequences of their choices then they have no one but themselves to blame.
theg0lden1 6 months ago 12
@theg0lden1 so because a lot of of people watch porn does that make it ok does it? because our fellow man makes a bad choice/decision does that mean we dont help him does it? The fact that porn makes a lot of money, does that make it ok?
tyronelasersynth 2 months ago
@tyronelasersynth I never said that it was ok. You do bring up a valid point. I'm just saying that it is nigh impossible to completely erase an industry that exploits a primal drive. Whatever way you want to deal with it is up to you. Thank you for not being a bigot and merely saying "fuck you you're wrong" youtube seems to be filled with people like that today. ^o^
theg0lden1 1 month ago
@theg0lden1 All good Brother, im defiantly for hearing both points of view so that i can make more of an informed choice about porn, that means hearing the stuff about porn that people dont like to hear:) And i dont go to church myself, but when Jesus engaged with his emimies, he did it by engaging with there intellect, and they(religious people, who were the worst of the worst in that time)just got even more angry with him. They weren't willing to accept change:-)
tyronelasersynth 1 month ago
@theg0lden1 well said
mitchqqqqqq 1 month ago
@theg0lden1 Very well put.
SillyHello 1 month ago
I have no horse in this race, I'm not a Christian and I'm certainly not a pornstar, but looking at these two sides here, it seems to me both sides are full of it. To them, porn is either all good or all bad. Porn can be many things, but it really depends on how the individual chooses to perceive it. People need to be responsible for their actions and be careful what they do in life. I know if my mother or daughter sucked cock for a living, I'd be hurt by it. Sex is always gonna be personal.
sigurjong 7 months ago
A lot of Christians seem to have a hard time accepting the idea of an "Adult". Must be that magic sky daddy brain washing they are raised with
blkswimmer 7 months ago
I don't understand what's wrong with porn, all porn is portraying is sex, if people are trying to "eradicate" porn why don't you also eradicate 90% of Hollywood as well as all of the other media. Music, TV, etc., it all has some sort of depiction of sex, it may be graphic or subtle but it's all there.
Porn is just the rawest form.
People complaining about porn are fucking immature.
whyumadnugga 7 months ago
Psychologists say that our human brains tend to associate excited emotional states with sexual and romantic arousal. This is why the more evangelical Christians make sex out to be "dirty" "deviant" "shameful" or whatever their sex obsessed minds can think of, the more they themselves can't get off the topic of sex. If "deviant" sex acts are no longer considered taboo, people won't find them as exciting and people won't be addicted to porn or sex anymore.
jchien 8 months ago
I think Craig has a very strong standpoint with his website and soft ware with that many users. Ron can name a few girls who've made great lives out of the business but compared to the amount of people who say it's a problem and seeking help is no comparison. I may not know the exact ratio, but my guess would be that Craig is right and it's not backwards as Ron suggests
connorsmog 8 months ago
It's funny when they censor it: beeeeep beeep beeep ... "by three men" beeeep beeeep beeeep ..."pump".
dmed312 8 months ago
The pastor's cute
az091186 8 months ago
Enough with the beeping. Sometimes you cannot even follow the conversation.
Aside from that, I do not agree with Monique that those people ended up having all those problems just because they made their choice and that is the end of the story. First off, your choices are affected by a number of things you are not aware of. Just blaming them on their choices is simplistic and disrespectful. Besides, what makes it objectively good to start by doing girl/girl?
chayoto 8 months ago
i love how when the host asks ron if he has had a fufilling life, his tone lightens and he kind of thinks to himself "oh shit."
titans446 9 months ago
I think Ron Jeremy is a repressed homosexual. And I know who I believe.
tigerbaiter1 9 months ago
My ex was addicted to porn, and sex with him was crap. He was so lost in his addiction he lost touch with how to have sex with a woman in the flesh. I watch porn every now and then, and at the beginning I learnt some "tricks" when I did not know much, later it bored me witless and I no longer watch it (not for the past 10 years or so). It's just like drugs, it sucks you in and make you live in a world of your own fantasy and THEN ask your partner to live up to it.
DakotaJanes 9 months ago
@DakotaJanes I watch porn 3 times a day and masturbate constantly, whenever I am not having sex, working out, going on a date, running my business, or just doing normal stuff.
Your ex was an idiot. I have used porn to fuel me in the right way.
I learned that women CAN get off on anal sex through hundreds of experiences (with the same women many times over again) and that they CAN get multiple orgasms (through either hole, sometimes) etc.
Porn isn't good or bad. Porn is what you make it
vduke 5 months ago
YouTube could remove this entire section of the debate and just link to this Wikipedia article instead:
"Confirmation bias"
It would give you a lot more information.
Superphilipp 9 months ago
(cont.) One could (and should) take a sensible and sex-positive view of the matter and avert a lot unnecessary problems. Christianity creates these problems for itself.
bcn533 10 months ago
So much of the supposed destructive effects of porn use on the user undoubtedly results from irrational and unhealthy beliefs pertaining to sex. This is especially the case with Christians like the ones this youth pastor represents. When you believe that masturbation and looking at naked women is sinful and will land you in hell and you're a teenager or young adult you have made for yourself a situation in which you are at war with yourself.
bcn533 10 months ago
Why do you bleep out everything he is saying? We are all adults, we can take a little cursing of sexually explicit words.
christo930 10 months ago
monique is playing herself...u think ur so smart? plz
patriciacarrasco 11 months ago
Ugh, is there an uncensored version of this available? For adults?
Andybaby 11 months ago
"Whatever your fantasy, porn's gonna create it for you."
Will it create a fantasy of genuine love and caring between two lovers engaged in tantric sex? I think not.
essbee2334 11 months ago 15
@essbee2334 If you want a fantasy about genuine love, then go watch a fucking romance...
Hejzwej 5 months ago
@essbee2334 Amen!! I lost 2 wives and have had many relationship and problems because of it. Your comment is so true that porn removes the intimacy couples need. I hope one day I find a woman who will understand where I have been and work with me to build intimacy between us.
freespeachrulez 5 months ago
@freespeachrulez This is why I'll only date women with a more sexually mature attitude. My current girlfriend and I have been sharing porn and erotic art with each other for over 5 years. When one of us finds something we know the other will find to be hot, we show it to them. It's allowed us to talk more openly and hasn't caused problems in our sex life at all. This is possible because we treat it like every other form of media, we don't watch Harry Potter and then expect to go to Hogwarts.
TeaHermit 4 months ago 4
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@essbee2334 You dont know what your talking about, you dont even know real tantra
oscie1 5 months ago
@essbee2334
Yes it does, you do have movies like this and you've also got so called 'female friendly porn'
UndercoverLdn 5 months ago
@essbee2334 Indeed. I never wanted to see rape, insect, cumshots, hitting, choking, double penetration, anal sex, orgies or anything like that. All I wanted to see is two lovers kissing and making love in natural and comfortable positions and cuddling and caressing each other afterwards. But I never really saw anything like that.
Aqquila89 4 months ago
I say americans because, we distribute so much of it legally and not in an art form to private viewers but as a commoditee that 'everyone' see's as just another vice. It's the fact that it's here in it's quantity and attainability that is truly disturbing. Marketed as 'no big deal', and in plain sight. When i drive down the road and see a porn store, or adult media outlet, it sickens me. These stores are legal, when they shouldn't be. But if there's money to be made, they will do so. It's wrong.
TheGreenPlague 11 months ago
When you see the porn industry defending itself, it's not doing so honestly as individuals. It's a business. A corporation, that's not looking for rights and freedom, it's seeking profit from the path it choose.
I see Ron Jermey and this woman saying "People who chose to do the hardcore things or view porn, made their own decisions", but all I hear is "I chose to do porn, and now I have to defend it." When millions of other Americans made the decision not to.
TheGreenPlague 11 months ago
18 years old might be considered legally adult, but in my opinion thats not true. Especially in the society we live in where our education system is so skewed, and unequal. Your parents work all day away from you, you pull behavior and lifestyles from your PEERS who know as little or less than you, and a government that doesn't care about you who is contracted with companies approves your smoking and drinking age, both which kill. The issue isn't if it's legal it's okay, it's NOT okay ever.
TheGreenPlague 11 months ago
@TheGreenPlague Don't forget the exploitation of young people perpetrated by the armed forces.
bcn533 10 months ago
@bcn533 No shit. Or how about the young families who's tax money, 90% of which, goes to the military. Could have been used to educate these morons, but we perpetuate the beat off machine by keeping them dumb and numb.
TheGreenPlague 9 months ago
How is she making alot of money? shes not that hot
marcoz8670 1 year ago
I’m going to be honest and say that as a female porn watcher, I am constantly disappointed in reality by the reality of how small most mens penises are compared to the penises you see in porn. So to that extent, yes I would say, porn is better than real sex in terms of penises at least.
Alora99 1 year ago
@Alora99 as a male, and as a response based on your comment; the irony for me is that reality is a pleasant surprise in comparison to porn. Women IRL are in much better "shape", and look much more attractive than porn stars simply because they dont have the "bad aura". However i also agree that IRL, and on average, men in porn are larger in size. That is however due to the many harmfull treatments they use - and no man should be expected to put themselves under such risk just to please a partner
dalolman 1 year ago
Craig says 76% of people who watch porn watch it alone, so that still means 24% watch it with another person. But since both sides are saying that a lot of people watch porn (in the millions) and the amounts of hits it gets, isn't that still a lot of people not watching it alone? It's not like it's a small sample space to take from.
Anth150 1 year ago
'so you feel like your life has been fullfilling?'
'....yeah...'
stellarshine80 1 year ago
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ochocincoTO 1 year ago
triplexchurchpress my m.s.n is my profile baybe!
sexykatie90 1 year ago
Marriage is an evil institution! Christianity is a fantasy! And what the fuck about female domination!!?!! That's porn too!
bluewater174 1 year ago
Christianity is a sad fucking fantasy that's killed a lot of people; Pornography is a happy fantasy that's killed no one. I rest my case ;)
bluewater174 1 year ago
@bluewater174 and how would you know that porn is a happy fantasy that killed no one?
ochocincoTO 1 year ago
7:21 - Yes, she was smart enough to say no... but she was probably not in a financial situation where she was desperate for money. Some people who get into porn are desperate for money and will do everything in order to get it to get some stress off them. So.... I think Monique's point is not as valid. because some people make these decisions without thinking about the consequesnces
seaweed810 1 year ago
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emFF5luver 1 year ago 12
@emFF5luver everything can ruin lives if you get too much of it. Just like alcohol. There's nothing wrong with porn in and of itself. Let people take some god damn responsibility for their lives. Some people are addicted to playing videogames and get their lives ruined, that doesn't mean the videogames are bad or evil.
Chaaarge 1 year ago
@emFF5luver XD im addicted to chinese noodles, let me destroy this benign "addiction" to prove im manly
darkunorthodox 10 months ago
@emFF5luver Porn is a lot like religion, it's power stuff and some people can't handle it. Nearly everything in this debate can be compared to religion. Hundreds of people commit suicide over their religious beliefs, so should we ban religion?
christo930 10 months ago
@christo930 I'm not exactly sure how your reply about religion ties in to my comment, but no I don't think that we should ban religion. Some religious people commit suicide, sure, but I would guess that most of that has to do with depression and other issues in life, not "I'm [insert religion] and today I'm going to commit suicide because of that." Religion gives people a hope and reason to live 99% of the time. Porn does not. It tears relationships apart.
emFF5luver 9 months ago
@emFF5luver I was trying to point out that the problem isn't porn, it's the person. Religion, when abused, destroys families, has caused many wars and invasions, acts of terrorism, depression, anxiety, etc... I was talking about suicide bombings. Not only are people killing themselves over religion, they are killing others as well.
christo930 9 months ago
@christo930 I agree about suicide bombing and stuff like that. But that tends to be extremists, not in general. I get what you're saying about the person being the problem, people definitely abuse porn. I just don't think it's a good thing for anyone to get started in because eventually it just overcomes a person. I've seen it happen.
emFF5luver 9 months ago
@emFF5luver I have seen religion destroy families. I have seen mothers disown their kids because the kid goes with another religion or no religion at all. I have seen marriages broken up that way. And I am not trying to pick on religion because this could happen to nearly anything. I very, very occasionally watch porn and usually with my wife. I don't think we should ban religion for the actions of relative few and I feel the same thing about religion.
christo930 9 months ago
@christo930 I get what you're saying. And it's sad that stuff like that does happen because of religion, because it shouldn't. The same way relationships shouldn't be ruined because of porn. It's good that your marriage hasn't suffered because of that, but way too many are ruined from porn. And that's why I don't like it.
emFF5luver 9 months ago
@emFF5luver So it's sad when religion brakes up families, but if porn does, it's got to go? I also seriously doubt that porn breaks up good marriages Of those it does, it's usually because of one partner's jealousy or inability to deal with it and they put an ultimatum on their spouse and the person receives the threat and doesn't respond well, but how many people respond well to ultimatum. Maybe the opposition spouse should understand their spouse better. If neglect becomes a problem, then OK
christo930 9 months ago
@christo930 Okay listen. You replied to a comment I left half a YEAR ago. I'm tired of talking in circles. You asked my opinion and I gave it, even when your reply had nothing to do with my actual comment. I hate porn. I don't think it does good things for anyone in any circumstance. Accept that and quit trying to change my opinion. Why should someone in a marriage be expected to accept their husband/wife looking at another person anyway? That's hardly fair and it's hardly keeping the 'faithful'
emFF5luver 9 months ago
@emFF5luver "I don't think it does good things for anyone in any circumstance. ". Like other religious people, you already know everything and no amount of evidence is ever going to change your mind because you decided, with your limited knowledge on the subject, that you are already an expert. When it is pointed out that something YOU are involved in has the same possible outcomes as obsessive porn, you have nothing to say and hide behind your "feelings". YOU put out YOUR opinion, not me.
christo930 9 months ago
@christo930 (2/2) promise that was made. (In the case of a marriage.) Reply if you want but that's really all I have to say. You're not going to change my opinion.
emFF5luver 9 months ago
@emFF5luver Then why don't you just admit that you hate porn and have no real reason other than hating it. You can't demonstrate that it causes harm, you can't demonstrate that it's any worse than any other potentially addictive behavior? Stop trying to dress up your hatred as being based on science and admit is is largely religious!
christo930 9 months ago
@emFF5luver "Ron Jeremy keeps getting mad and defensive. The other two guys are a lot better to listen to cause they stay calm."
Well of course, that's because they are on the defensive, as Jeremy explained at the beginning. THEY are the ones who have to respond to the accusation that the thing they dedicated their lives to is wicked.
Superphilipp 9 months ago
@emFF5luver porn doesn't ruin lives, its the addiction that ruins lives. One must control the addiction otherwise they are at fault. All faults begin from within and until it can be proven that they are no longer able to control then it is the porns fault. All addictions are controllable which is evident in the willing away of addictions such as drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, coffee etc. Sure porn tempts but it does not embellish the addiction, the user does.
slutbucketism 6 months ago
@emFF5luver lol your person you know was addicted to porn. He ruined his life, not porn. Certain genres in porn are degrading to certain people and should not be done by certain people.
I have done hardcore things with women in a real relationship/sex life. I say to them YOU MUST COMMUNICATE OPENLY AND HONESTLY AT ALL TIMES. The safeword is radio. The instant there is an issue, I want you to tell me. Every single person told me if I went too far with something before it actually went far
vduke 5 months ago
@vduke with the exception of one. That person I had to stop for. I used my good judgement to stop. Despite a 30 minute talk and lecture about S&M and the need to COMMUNICATE she didn't. Sorry for using caps so much, but she SHOULD NOT BE DOING THAT.
S&M did not traumatize her and neither did I. She opened herself up for it by saying she wanted to do it and knew to communicate etc. I asked her 3 times if she wanted to stop and told her the safeword etc. and she said, "I KNOW"
vduke 5 months ago
@vduke then, I said I am stopping because i can see that you don't like it and you can't communicate. We cannot go any further in this way. She said what? And then I said, did you like what I did? She said, "kind of I guess". Then I said, "no, did you like what I did, yes or no". She said, no I didn't.
point being, she is like these people that despite built in safety systems, warnings, triple and quadruple checking that she understands, will go into a situation and be surprised.
vduke 5 months ago
@vduke I have literally said as a pickup line to a woman. "I want to spank you and do a rear naked choke hold while doing you anally" Only for her to be shocked when I suggested getting in bed with her three hours later.
It turned out she was a virgin.
Really? The FIRST thing I say to you is I want to fuck you up the ass and you are shocked when I want to get physical with you?
Honestly?
I can imagine that these women that are supposedly victimized in porn are the same way.
vduke 5 months ago
@vduke "Ok Monique, we are going to spank you and lightly slap you in the face and then we are going to do you anally and choke you until you tap out when you are on all fours. OK?"
OK Mr. Director, that works for me.
You understand that you can stop at anytime and that this is a rough scene?
Yes Mr. Director, I understand.
Scene begins:
WHY ARE YOU CHOKING ME?
That is how it goes...
You do get some people in the industry that are predators for real, however. That is life though
vduke 5 months ago
@vduke The PREDATORS in porn and the RAPE VICTIMS need to be dealt with and helped respectively.
Just like with alcohol. My dad drinks a lot of beer. Yingling did not get him addicted, Yingling is not going to kill him, and Yingling is not going to or did not make him impotent. (not saying he is). The beer did none of that.
He picked up the beer. He drank it. He had an intervention and chose his beer over his family and still chooses beer over his wife. Beer company or his fault?
vduke 5 months ago
@vduke HIS end of my post.
vduke 5 months ago
@vduke Why are you leaving this story all over youtube? No one wants to hear that.
But since you've shared for all the world to see, this is disgusting. That's how you talk to a woman, another human being? You think that's okay? That's degrading and objectifying. If sex is all you think about (to the point where you use such a pickup line) then I feel sorry for you. You comments have absolutely nothing to do with the debate in this video, you're just defending your own problem.
emFF5luver 5 months ago
@emFF5luver #1. It is a litmus test to see how they will respond, and it was online so it was not an in your face admission.
#2. I believe that I said I jerk off 2-3x a day and have sex, when I am not running my business, dating (not fucking, but dating), working out, hanging out with friends, etc. It is not all the time, it is about 2-3 hours a day, but that is not all the time. That is 1/8th the time.
vduke 5 months ago
@vduke You left a lot of comments, I probably haven't seen them all because youtube glitches all the time.
It's not 1/8th. Take away sleep, it's 2-3 hours of 16 hours that you're awake. Closer to a quarter of your waking time...and minus work, that's a ridiculous amount of free time spent on sex. Your life is completely based on it. Live it how you want, but you'll probably regret that one day. There is so much more to life than sex and you're throwing hours of your life away staring at porn.
emFF5luver 5 months ago
@vduke #3 that was part of the debate. The debate was about addiction and is porn bad for you.
I just said how taking a few predators in the industry and a few victims and then blowing it out of proportion to make a representation of the entire 12 billion dollar business look bad is what these people are doing.
I believe you see me making parallels to how these woemn might completely not listen to anything said and be surprised at what is goign on. The christian guy himself said it.
vduke 5 months ago
@vduke The women that would sign the papers would be warned about what is going to happen, that the movies are going to be on the internet, so on so forth, yet they were surprised.
It literally goes like this... I know, because I did a gay porn.
Sir or Ma'am, you will be doing this that and this.
Most people say ok and understand.
These victims say I NEVER AGREED TO DOING THIS THAT AND THIS, even though they were literally being told about it 5 seconds before.
Read my argument again.
vduke 5 months ago
@vduke i would argue some more, but I had a really long day and just ended it by being the first person to successfully introduce anal sex into a woman's life. Not on;y was i successful. SHE WANTS IT AGAIN. First successful attempt in her fifteen years of having sex.
Perhaps you should listen to me when I speak, in these scenarios, because I am a professional.
Women are told what happens, most listen, others don't. The ones that think they were never told what was happening say victim.
vduke 5 months ago
The person I find creepiest is the moderator
Cheshykid 1 year ago 2
I can't watch porn anymore after an insight into how everything actually goes down. Once you realize that the jaw clenching and moaning is actually pain disguised as pleasure, it just doesn't appeal anymore.
LIGHTRONIX 1 year ago
The comment by the blonde about the guy working with beautiful woman is so damn stupid....fool!
AJCNard 1 year ago
she keeps saying "people make their own choices" and completely ignoring the fact that the very option of making that choice is still there. point being, it's a BAD choice. when she says she didn't start out doing "boy/girl" because she couldn't handle it mentally, she sticks her foot in her mouth. in all fairness, her defenses are all pretty weak.
spanisholives 1 year ago 31
@spanisholives Oh My God chick! All shes saying is that you should know the consequences of the actions you take. Just because people judge you for those actions or you discover you cant handle it does not mean it is a "bad choice" for everyone. That is what your arguing right? That she contradicts herself by the implication that its a bad choice? Because the context only implys that its a bad choice for them personally, and that's all she saying.
rugnardredbeard 1 year ago
Here are the facts morons!!!! If you take away porn men will imagine just as vivid if not more vivid fantasies in there own minds(while masterbating). OMG what will obsessive GIRLS and fearfull christians do then.... control your thoughts... Oh yeah christianity. Look people men are horny woman are hot... ah evolution... high libedo=procreation, procreation=survival of the species. It fills a need. NOT ALL MEN GET LAID YOU INCONSIDERATE BASTARDS... also a good prostitution argument.
rugnardredbeard 1 year ago
@spanisholives It's not just that it's a bad choice, it's that they completely ignore the fact that they are SUGGESTING it's okay. They are INFLUENCING people. And make a PROFIT from it. We live without complete control. We don't raise our children in this nation in a single family, but as a society. What we see on the TV, on the computer, in school, in other peoples lifestyles. It's all effecting us. We don't have complete control of our decisions.
TheGreenPlague 11 months ago
@spanisholives it wasn't a bad choice for her. It's not something you can blanket as being just good or bad, it depends on the person. Buying a horse is a BAD choice for some people, say people that live in apartments. People have to examine the career and decide if it's a good or bad choice for them. You can't do that for them.
kh2freek 6 months ago
@spanisholives
She isn't ignoring the fact that the choice is there. She acknowledges it and explains that she didn't take it until she was ready. She approached the situation responsibly. You think the choice should be taken away? Alcohol can be harmful if a person abuses it. Should they not be allowed the choice? How many rock stars OD before they're 30? Should we disallow entry into the entertainment industry because not everyone handles it well? It's all about personal responsibility.
nugget147 5 months ago
@spanisholives
She's HOT though, so who cares. I'd hit it.
UndercoverLdn 5 months ago
Oh man, Monique is harsh!! She really doesn't do herself any favours in this debate by simply being rude...
DeceptionOfTheState 1 year ago
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The only thing that is sex to me is penis and vagina connection. Even if you take the God factor out of the sex equation you have to be consciously blind to think any sexual contact with the anus is natural and not gross instinctively.
I keep to sticking my penis in my longtime partner's vagina. I would never stick my penis into anybody's anus regardless of their sex even if someone had a gun with bullets in it pointed at my head.
BBQFanNo1 1 year ago
Actually in the music industry content alone today would be considered as explicit as hard core pornography in the 1970s and 1980s standard.
And vise versa music of the 1970s and 1980s is considered too tame and cute for today's normal standard.
BBQFanNo1 1 year ago
@mattowarrior Honestly, I'm not big on politics. But I will say that I tend to lean more towards republican ideals only because I'm conservative and they tend to be likewise. I only show interest in politics only where moral issues are conserned, and only then through a Christian worldview perspective. Now, as for you "going to hell for not accepting Christ", I would argue that Christ dying so you wouldn't have to go to hell is the ultimate show of compassion. According to the Bible, no one...
boughtwithblood7 1 year ago
@boughtwithblood7 ...can earn their way to heaven because man is completely depraved. Every one has sinned. God was in no way obligated to save us, but He did anyway. Why? He loves us because He IS a compassionate God. I look foward to your video series.
boughtwithblood7 1 year ago
@mattowarrior The logic in my argument is that we Christians see any sexual immorality as a sin. Therefore, any attempts to change the status of a sinful lifestyle with good deeds (i.e., charities) are completely usless. From the point of view, regarding Scripture, all works from a non-regenerate soul are, as the Bible puts it, like filthy rags to God. Its all about how someone measures up in the eyes of God... and no one does. If a murderer donated $1,000 to the victim's family, He's still ...
boughtwithblood7 1 year ago
@boughtwithblood7 ... a murderer. My concern is that anyone who falls into this lifestyle and is hurt by it should be offered compassion and a WAY OUT. They still need God's forgiveness, but they should be ministered to and offered hope. The hope that is in Christ. Its very cannibalistic for Monique to quickly kick troubled teens, trying to leave the porn industry, to the curb. Wouldn't you agree?
boughtwithblood7 1 year ago
Porn is choice. It should be allowed. But it should be banned from free access on internet and sold(not necessarily) after id verification, same as alcohol. Over 18 get all porn you want, under - sorry, wait until 18. End of story.
alaskaproduction 1 year ago
i thought the good guys were dead
positivesecret 1 year ago
The fucking bleeping is soooooooooo fucking annoying. I'm adult, im not gonna be corrupted by language. There discussing porn for fuck sakes. whats a few naughty words gonna add to it.
pithie84 1 year ago
Jeremy is a very sad and desperate individual who has craved mainstream acting success for two decades now, but failed, and it kills him, he's a failure, and he knows it, watch the documentary floating around about him if you don't believe it. There are some people who will do, or say, anything for money, it's really that simple, and the porn industry is full of such individuals. Porn is not about sex, it's about money, as long as capitalism dictates how we live this problem will remain.
digimaton 1 year ago
@digimaton , why don't you compare bank accounts and popularity and see who the failure really is?
pithie84 1 year ago
@pithie84 if you view acquisitiveness as a prerequisite of human worth, what a vacuous existence you must lead.
digimaton 1 year ago
@digimaton , My existence however vacuous (yes I know what it means Mr long words) was not in question , I was stating that someone who seems happy with their life, is financially secure and is liked by many people can't really be considered a failure in life, but to assume that his life didn't go the way he wanted it to when he was much younger must be killing him inside is a bit presumptuous (I can you long words as well)
pithie84 1 year ago
@pithie84 i merely stated what is depicted in the documentary about Jeremy, which he actively participated in, so I don't get what your personal gripe is. As previously stated, some people will do or say anything for money, it's not a trait I find admirable; be it a politician or a pornographer. Nothing more needs to be said on the matter.
digimaton 1 year ago
@digimaton. fair enough. It was nice discussing it with you and I learned a new word as well ( won't tell you which one though)
pithie84 1 year ago
porn stares are just prostitutes, there just not hanging out on a cornor. you pay girls for sex. and you pay to see girls have sex. its prostitution
gtxss 1 year ago 3
Somebody is <bleeep> with their <bleeep> and their <bleeep> and then <bleeep><bleeep>, right??! Clearly.
Sinsteel 1 year ago
Are you guys fuck? Porn is gr8. Leave Ron Jeremy alone seriously... If you don't like porn I think you should leave. Go live in Iran you impotent bastards. Porn is awesome. Hail Ron jeremy and the master race and the fuhrerprinzip
aryan9000 1 year ago
the porn industry does not support all kinds of sex and fetishes! what about men with small average penises. 4-5 inches and not girthy at all. that is like 50% men all around the world. instead......What do i get to watch. SMALL PENIS HUMILATION. talk about discrimination and mindfucking the world of men shear and clear. then we have these lies about penis enlargement. fuck the porn industry and fuck these women in demand of big penis. fuckem.
Xziz10ths 1 year ago
how is the pastor married
TempleOfTheFREE 1 year ago
rons always pissed....the 2 other guys stay chill the whole time....they take what he says against them but he cant take what they say
rottenXrex 1 year ago
Ok I'm not worried about porn at all. I love porn. But I am worried about Ron's weight. What the hell is he eating...you know beside pussy.
sigurjong 1 year ago
wow, nice!, but youtubes defo not great for videos of hot girls. go and
search for Rudey Tube - wicked videos
DylanPerkins1040 1 year ago
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Kind-hearted people try to help weak-minded people by taking away their ability to choose. Oh, sure the legal right is still there, so that looks good on paper. But the fact of the matter is- the use of guilt and the threat of hell takes away free will. Hell is a powerful social motivator.
curious113307 1 year ago
Kind-hearted people try to help weak-minded people by taking away their ability to choose. Oh, sure the legal right is still there, so that looks good on paper. But the fact of the matter is- the use of guilt and the threat of hell takes away free will. Hell is a powerful social motivator.
curious113307 1 year ago
@curious113307 @curious113307 How do you reckon that people would be motivated by something in which they do not believe? Many people do not even believe in God, and even among those that do, many do not believe in eternal punishment. And more interestingly, even among those that believe in hell, it does not suffice in keeping them from doing evil - because 1) People feel they can always ask for forgiveness 2) The thought of hell does not stay in the minds of most believers consistently
Dabrasz 1 year ago
@Dabrasz My problem is that these church people are trying to "protect" people from the freedom of personal choice. These church people are trying to motivate others by manipulating them to accept their beliefs with fear. If that doesn't work (and thank the Divine that some people are more intelligent than that), then they're the types to get the less intelligent republicans to make restrictive laws.
curious113307 1 year ago
There is no good, there is no evil- there is only order and chaos.
Kind-hearted people think that weak-minded people cant make evolved choices so they try to take their free will away to "protect" them. Sometimes they use guilt and fear. Hell is a convenient social motivator.
curious113307 1 year ago
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thebrittcracker 1 year ago
wow that censorship is annoying.
cireodeca 1 year ago
Guy:" my marriage failed because of pornography "
"Dont you think your wife was just insecure because you were working with beautiful women every day?"
Men in the crowd : wooooooooooooh!!!!!!!!!!!
MobiusInfinity117 1 year ago 3
@MobiusInfinity117 i'd like a more grown up crowd rather than a jerry springer crowd
BartenderMix 1 year ago
theses pastors are telling u thr truth. worked in a porn store 4 years and now a christian. pornography is a trap of the devil himself. if u look at most of the film titles of pornography it is completely demonic..
2485edwin 1 year ago
each is own man...each is own....
you cant feel bad for some one who smokes and gets cancer because they should know theres a risk of getting cancer...if they dont mabey they should listent to the world around them...btw...listen to people...but only half way...
"go make money by selling drugs" listen but only half way "make money" yes do it
"by selling drugs" dont do it....you feel my thoughts people if you stupid its not your fault i feel sorry for your mistakes but please stop listening all
bmc510 1 year ago
6:40 "Well that's their one problem, they are still making their own choice as an 18 year old person....They are taking the easy way out."
No 18 year olds are mature enough to make an adult decision. Also, the 2nd point, not everybody is given other options to get out of financial trouble.
This bitch is absolutely brain dead. She sounds like she was brought up with daddy buying her whatever expensive cars she wanted.
YTConsulting 1 year ago
nice video, howeva youtube's certainly not fantastic for hot girl videos, go see Rudey Tube - brilliant videos
LouisHeath5318 1 year ago
seriously, what have these ppl become after doing porn shows??? did they grow intellectually?? more responsible as a citizen? contribute to the society? common sense will tell u Porn is wrong.. but the world is twisted the truth and saying Porn is good for sex life.. lol.. w/o Love, what's sex is for??? mating??? just like animals?
yccandy 1 year ago
The thing that really pisses me off