Why Healthcare Reform Will Fail

[kylenorberg]

Bahaha "Healthcare is not a right it's a benefit!" so life is not a right? it's a benefit?

[ComprimisedXInsanity]

The pill heads are going to love this. Think about it. If medication is free your just going to sell it for money. This health reform will damage or destroy us all.

[krypotonknight]

I'm talking about sniffy below, of course, and not hightrump. thought I'd eliminate a loophole based on what I saw of sniff's debating skills.

Insufferable, to say the least

[krypotonknight]

... I hate people who argue against something because it isn't perfect when they 1) don't really understand the whole situation, because there are people who's JOB it is to know everything about it, and 2) don't have any better ideas that really work.

[sniffy45]

The doc charge to other 30% and was in my presence all of 8 min. Yes as a consumer that is BULLSHIT. And the serviced sucked! This system is broke bother and because you guys play the game too, you've been part of why its broke. You're probably fresh out of med school so I'm wasting time even talking to you. Malpractice is a joke too, you wont even disipline your own, the boards slap yor hand. People die because you just want to get paid.

[hightrump]

You embarrass yourself when you accuse me and others of only wanting to get paid.

[sniffy45]

really,. Im speechless. You obviously like evry other doctor just let your office manager run that part of the biz. You should really tale a looksy at your billing system and see how everything goes down after a patient has seen you. Think about the average salary and expense a regular joe has and whats left to come see you.. Look at how many of your patients pay with a credit card vs a check. Cost are out of control! And the service really sucks, for the most part.

[hightrump]

You are getting off on a wild tangent. I work in the emergency room. 80% of the people I see never pay their bill. Gang violence, drunk drivers, intentional overdose/suicide attempts and drug seekers are half of my business and those people don't pay. We see them anyway. I have never turned anyone away because of inability to pay. None of those people have a right to my services. Your preposterous assertion that they do is simply poorly thought out feel good nonsense.

[sniffy45]

Well hold on, your situation is a bit different. . My take on your situation is you work for the hospital, use their tools and should be salaried. I dont believe you should have a practice in that environment. Im only really discussing basic health care, out patient type stuff. Doctor who run a business soley on their own, pedeling drugs and not being very effective at their service. You, in your environment I have a totally different take on and I respect what the law says you have to do.

[sniffy45]

By the way, I totally respect what you do for everyone. My goal really was to show everyone that you gave me more attention in e-mail on YouTube than your average Doctor would give to a paying customer.

Peace Doc

[sniffy45]

Health care is a right you fucking dick brain FOX commentator. This day in age people should not have to worry about being healthy especially if the Government is going to let cigg company lie about their products, drug companies "drug deal" fast food chain like McDonalds market food that will kill you. Lets not kid each other here, corp America runs America period and I'm glad we have a Pres that is willing to tell them to fuck off and were going to try and fix this shit like it or not.

[hightrump]

Sniffy45 I am a doctor. Do you have a right to my labor?

You are personally entitled to demand that I work for you, without regard for what I feel my work is worth? Extraordinary. Do you have a job? If i was to walk into your workplace and demand you spend 3-4 hours of your time on my behalf for whatever I felt like paying you would you be ok with that?

Did you know that the drug companies are on Obama's side here? They are in bed with him and pledged over 100M to run ads in support of his plan

[sniffy45]

Hi Doc, so what your saying is you're in it for the cash? And yes I do devote a considerable amount of my time and labor helping people with my skills and when I charge I charge what I'm worth. The difference is my client get results and if they are not satisfied I dont charge them again to address it. I went to the doc just a few weeks ago. A regular office visit and draw blood was 1013.00 the lab was 70% of that which is ridiculous as you know and I know how they achieve those results.

[hightrump]

You need to find another doctor. A 300 dollar physician fee is absurd. I asked if you feel you have a right to my labor. You claim to engage in charity. That is not an answer. You charity is on your terms, voluntarily, at your leisure. Do you have the right to demand that I labor on your behalf? When you claim a right to healthcare, that is what you are saying. It is tantamount to slavery to believe you have a right to my labor.

[sniffy45]

Right to your labor? Not exactly the way you see it. What I meant was in this day in age as a citizen of the most powerful country on this planet I think no one should have to worry about healthcare. How you get compensated is for the politicians, greedy corp america to figure out. I dont think healthcare should really be a wallstreet business. That does not include unnecessary cae like plastic surgery etc. I would rather pay moe taxes then to see people lose life,everything they've ever workd 4

[danteslight]

its actually going to cost about 300 billion not 4 trillion and it will spread over a 10 year period.

Fox is just a joke. I can't even listen to there idiocy anymore they never have any facts to back what they say.

[Lumpia808]

I need a drink

[throwingDz]

i'm with u on this

[wethepeopleUSA2012]

Watch Youtube Video: The Health Care Bill: What they DON'T want you to know!

[cAliKidd2468]

I personally wish McCain would have gotten elected and I'm black from the hood. We need absolute values in this nation. Not a Pres who lets the people do whatever they want w/o any accountability to God. This nation needs to REPENT coporately and ask for guidance from the Eternal Omniscient Creator of the Universe... I'm from the 'hood and I know that!

[loonmaniac]

There is no god.

[cAliKidd2468]

2:00 they are about to get their party on in front of that bar there

[ragenut2112]

fuck these tools in the neck.

[Smartassawhip]

The USA has the ... "BEST SPECIALISTS" ... but our Health Care System stinks and is ranked as the Low 37th on a World Scale !! It's like saying "THE USA WON THE MOST GOLD MEDALS IN THE OLYMPICS ... SO THE ENTIRE AMERICAN POPULATION IS MADE OF TOP ATHLETES !!

[PeterOrszagCallMe]

NEUTER THE BLUE DOGS!!!

[teleutube]

Do not neutering the blue dogs !?!

CASTRATE THE BLUE DOGS !!

for peeing at the wrong trees

[OhioDemocrat]

I think the world of Pap, I hate Faux!

[FresnoTimeLord]

Why the hell were they doing a live shot infront of a bar???

[sarsanch]

Why are you showing these liars!!!

I didn't sign up with FOX?!!!!!

[onlyrey]

LOL, Papantonio badmouths at both democrats and republicans, and the "objective" FOX reporters slam him about him and defend the republicans, hahahaha. However, Papantonio is right about the prices... The pharmaceutical companies are not necessarily taking most of the booty, in reality, hospitals and insurance companies have grown together to screw the patient (yes, all of us).

[GWOZ0Z0]

Fox. 'nough said

[killerbandit]

IDIOTS, the US gov is not setting prices. Where are they getting that idea?

[burntonion05]

I don't know why you waste your time arguing with Faux news morons.

[imaginepeace63]

Pap is trying to wake the fox news audience up.

[buakawkaoklai]

this is no brainer...dont reform the healthcare system the uninsured will get no treatment and die....reform and the system will work or reform and the system will work with some flaws ppl may have to wait and get treated in the end...

[southparkgtaca]

At the end, the voice of reason leaves, stupidity ensues.

[mistergarth]

4 trillion dollar plan?!?

Let's just make up numbers off the top of our head, shall we? How about a xty-nine gagillion dollar plan?

In any case, what's the cost of NOT reforming our health care system? Not only the cost in dollars, the cost in LIVES?

Tort reform? I thought that one was fossilized in the late cretaceous.

Pap makes some sense in the rare moments when he's allowed to finish a sentence.