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  • Support our troops by saying no to wars. Vote for Ron Paul and bring them back home.

  • Thank you for this video. I am a 5 year army veteran who spent 15 months in Iraq. People don't seem to understand the simple concept supporting the troops =/= supporting illegal endless wars. Continue the good fight against the brainless pundits and cowardly chickenhawks.

  • southern avenger- Excellent rationale and presentation.

  • I was in Iraq 2004 - 2005 as an Army Combat medic. I thought that we were redirecting terrorist rage towards ourselves and getting it away from our homeland. I think that is part of it. But, is that what our Constitution upholds? Policing the world? I think we've won over there. But does that make it right to go and make war on a people who did not attack us? Are we constitutionally permitted to go after every crazy dictator? If not, what are we doing there?

  • why cant the American people understand reason?

  • @HooliTV People respect fame and don't trust their own decisions. The people on TV are more famous then the southern avenger or any of the dissenting military so they must be right.

  • We are out of Iraq soon...............done deal!

  • Amazing video, i strongly belive in your opinion.

  • 100 year war. It will never end.

  • Make it 200.

  • On Veterans Day you should be honoring remembering all of the Veterans who gave their lives in service.

    On Veterans Day you should be honoring and thanking living Veterans for our service.

    Post your critiques of current foreign policy anywhere you like at any time you like, but don't shame yourself and dishonor veterans by using our day to further your agenda.

  • Thanks for this video. I am in the Army myself and have gone to Iraq twice and will go again soon and we are doing a good job over there with what we do. The problem is that we see no end in sight despite all that we do and there really isn't much else we can do there anymore. I feel like we are trapped. Every time I hear people in D.C. talk about a pullout, I just dismiss it as political rhetoric that never gets accomplished. Of course we will continue to stand strong and serve with honor.

  • you are not serving anybody. you've fucked up a country and its people for no reason, what did this do to you? their only wrong doing is having oil. How can I support a bunch of killers, people who have no dignity...torturing!?we're not in the medieval times: we solve things by talking "by the way" , why don't you solve your probs. first, you have enough. damn what is wrong? you waste people and you expect support what fucking twisted world, which devil do you believe in anyway?!

  • "their only wrong doing is having oil." LOL, you're SO fucking stupid.

    this war didn't change the price of oil for good or bad, for anyone, not even the profiteers. In fact, all of the same people own the oil.

    No one profitted off of oil, other than 30 years ago when the Bush family, and Rumsfield personally indebted themselves to Israel, Oman, and Yemen. They finally did what their middle-eastern god-fathers told them to do.

    No one worthy of the title "Soldier" is even slightly guilty

  • @Saladin126 Well the war proiteers did benefit, maybe not from oil but definately from inflated no-bid contracts and other wastefull military spending.

  • the mission isnt over til its over i guess.

  • check this out, using the death of our service members (never~ call a marine a soldier)as a political tool is wrong. Either for or against this conflict. Yet, those who have serve (myself included) can definitely look you in the eye and tell you there is a mass of hate against us and our way of life that's more threatening than a 6 man neo-nazi rally in DC. The fact that people fail to accept that fact is scary. Please continue to support us, don't think we don't appreciate it =)

  • As the mother of two U.S. Marines I absolutely agree with the points in this video and its commentary. Though the mother of sons serving in the military;I never supported the war in Iraq and this long before Bush sent our troops into that country. Yes..it is possible to support our troops and be against the war. What Bush and his die hard supporters want is to translate support of our military and our patriotism into support of them personally and their policies. HELL NO!

  • The war on terror is a big lie. Iraq never threatened the national security of the US. Iraq had nothing to do with the attrocities on 9/11. War profiteers are getting rich off of the war. There are too many chickenhawks and flag humpers supporting the war.

  • mnuge76 is correct

  • I am a veteran and constantly express my disapproval of the war verbally and no one says or does a damn thing to me. I fight for my brothers and no one else-especially chickenhawks.

  • The Army has a saying- do it first and bitch about it later. Troops are allowed to complain once they have completed their service and are to be respected for their service regardless what you personally think about their political beliefs.

  • Support the troops who hate the chumps who oppose the war.

  • karl...there are a lot more troops who hate those chumps arnt there?

  • While saying we supports the troops but not the war sounds good on the surface, we should understand that many of the soldiers in Iraq are involved in crimes against the citizens of Iraq. I do not support these people at all, murder is still murder, whether you have a uniform on or not.

    Virtually every soldier in Iraq has committed crimes against innocent civilians to one extent or another. That is not something we should support.

    Ron Paul 2008

  • Just like in World War I (especially), Troops aren't always committing acts of violence voluntarily.

  • Excellent points made as usual SA! The neo-con influence seems to be shaking off your viewers. Just read some of their comments made.

  • No one should support an illegal and immoral war. The so-called "Iraq War" is just that; illegal and immoral. How can anyone with any moral sensibility support hired killers sent to invade, destroy and occupy a country that never did us any harm whatsoever, with our own President lying to us to justify his mass murder?

  • Were fighting an illegal war !! come on home boys..Ron Paul 2008!!

  • we never declared war - remember? this is an invasion

  • declare a war? who needs to declare a war when politicians regard the constitution as nothing more than a piece of paper? what's going on in iraq is a mere reflection of the corruption that is going on in capital hill and how the people we elect have abused what they've sworn to uphold.

    in other words, i agree with you lezlitaz

  • if we declare war-maybe could certain people be tried for war crimes?? oh wait, i think they have fixed that also

  • how convenient for them!

  • bunch of friggin sissies! get your asses back over there and stop being lil girly men! IF you signed up for it...you got it so stop complaining you fucking morons. WEhat do you think happens when you enroll in the military idiots? Its not a walk in the park and if you thought it might be then too fucking bad, deal with uit! you now belong to the US military and its your doing, no one forced you. Pansies

  • Yeah I don't get these fucking sissies who actually don't like killing people. What the fuck, fighting is to man what pregnancy is to woman. Fucking commies.

  • kaiser...if you dont like killing ppl dont sign up with the military dipshit. As of yet there has not been a draft...

  • I'm in a country where going to army is a national responsibility. Well I don't think it's anybodys business to choose who should live and who should die.

  • simple solution...renounce your citizenship and move elsewhere. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AND OBLIGATION to serve your country and if you cant do that like everyone else then you dont deserve what others who have sacrificed have earned.

  • So if I am not willing to fight for the leaders of this country I must take off?

  • if you want to be "part" of your country you have to earn it and show you want to be part of it. You prolly dont have to fight, just serve but yeah if you dont do what is required you ought to just take off. just think how those who did serve and eared their stay feel when they see you wanting to just "skip" over the harshes they endured.

  • But I don't believe that there has never been a war fought for the citizens of war, but the leaders of it.

  • Well, if it is an obligation, then that means we should have a CONSIGN army and not a professional army. It is only the duty of American citizens to defend the 50 states. Iraq is not a US state, and the Iraqi military not only never planned to, but also could never logistically launch an invasion on the soil of any of the 50 US states.

  • wtf r u talking about??? go fuck yourself retard

    ps...i replied to you and only read one line of what you posted=p

  • Probably because you can't read large English words. Perhaps you would prefer pictures?  Southern Avenger and I both agree that the 50 American States are what we need to protect and defend. Please do us all a favor and get yourself an education at one of the local community colleges.

  • mnuge- listen retard...you are trying to argue with me over nothing! can you read? the guy i originally posted the comment you responded to DOES NOT reside in the US. That said...proves you are a moron incapable of reading.

    i see your point of view but it is badly flawed.

  • mnuge...so basically your view is that the united states needs to protect itself by not confronting our enemies outside of our borders right? We should let Iran take iraq?

  • We can't be the world police. Let the UN do something, let the French do something. Why must the US always do something. China has more people, why can't they be in charge of protecting Iraq from Iran? Why do you care so much about Muslim countries? Why don't you focus some attention on African countries? None of these countries can logistically launch an invasion on US soil. The most they can do is launch one missile. So all we need to do is build a missile defense system in Israel.

  • mnuge...LOL you think the french or the UN is gonna do something LOL....LOL thats just like saying let us burn.

    Why am i concerned with muslim countries? Im concerned about ppl who are willing to blow themselves up and simultaneously seek nuclear devices...are you not?

  • No, not worried, as long as we stay out of their neighborhoods, and as long as we don't help their enemy Israel, they will never attack us or harm Americans in any way shape or form. If you are so worried you can go live in peace in New Caledonia! By the way, NEWS flash! Muslims already have nuclear weapons! Ever hear of a country called PAKISTAN!

  • lol...lol...you have such a simple mind haha. carry on lemming.

  • But at least I live in true freedom. You have to live your life in constant fear and worry.

  • The only thing i fear and worry about is a num nuts like you taking charge of this country.

  • You mean like Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, too late buddy, we're here to stay.

  • lol no you're not. All you liberal asses will be silenced when reality sets in...just a matter of time:p

  • Yes, Vladimir Putin of Russia said the same thing.

  • will you be my "freind" nuge? we can have so much fun surfing the net together lol

  • It does not matter were you reside. What matters is your citizenship! If you are an American outside of the United States, you can still vote, have you ever heard of an absentee ballot. If you are outside of the United States, you still must file a tax report to the IRS and you still must be registered with the selective service if you are an adult male US citizen, no matter where you live. Its your citizenship that counts!

  • and why does it count mnuge? please elaborate

  • Ask the US Embassy or Consulate in any country, I am sure those hardworking Americans would be glad to elaborate for you...

  • ohhh ok genius! thanks for the helpful info!

  • better yet nuge...elaborate on why you think i give a flying fuck about whatever it is you are talking about...

  • Because you are in dying need for attention and someone to talk to. Maybe you can make some friends on yahoo groups or something. Good luck Chuck!

  • no talking going on here last time i checked...just typing. Is this what you consider socializing nuge?

  • Go to sleep little boy!

  • nuge...you make "freinds" on the internet huh? Internet freinds? lol so cool!

  • are you lonely? STOP BOTHERING PEOPLE

  • No, of course not. Iraq is not a US state, your only obligation is to defend the 50 US states. Outside of those fifty states, you don't need to worry. Quite frankly, we might have been able to get a better deal on oil prices if we just let Iraq take Kuwait in the first war.  Hell, we could have even made a bit of a profit selling tanks to Iraq if we wanted to. It is easier to control one puppet dictator or monarch than 1000 despots.

  • he doesnt live in the states dummy

  • You dont have to live in the states to be a US citizen. Many good American citizens live abroad. Just imagine if you had a real job for a big American company like Boeing, then maybe you might have to work at one of the Boeing offices overseas. Citizenship, not places of residence!

  • ....what the hell are talking about? you and me are not on the same page

  • Your are trying to argue that because the guy doesn't reside in the US he has no right to say, but I say where you live doesn't matter, just citizenship!

  • drop this one idiot...he is a citizen of a different country...

  • Stop making up things, you don't know, do you have any proof? Then just be quiet.

  • you are a true moron, of course i know...you ovbiously know nothing...at least about what was communicated here

  • GO to sleep junior, its past your bedtime.

  • why dont you read this whole post...you will realize that you look like a moron...at least on this post

  • come on, just go to sleep

  • So should George Washington have followed your advice? In that case America would not say "In God we trust" , but instead "God save the Queen"

  • Stuck in the matrix. The infowar is winning anyway!

  • north...good point! this guys head is up his ass. Can you say "ANTI AMERICAN".

  • I used to like this SA guy's opinions but not this one. He makes no sense. It is like saying that he supports the Nazi SS divisions but not their mission. You can't separate the two.

  • I just subscribed *****

  • Man, you need a 2nd and 3rd account, so you can do as well as JustA11en does. Your video's better, but you must not stay up all night making 1 word comments on your video. Honor sucks in America. It never seems to get people ahead.

  • Very good. I am outraged when I hear about groups protesting at soldiers' funerals and other such actions. I cannot imagine how they mix up troops with politics; those men and women are doing what they must do, even if they do not believe in it. That is why they are called heroes... men and women of honor.

  • So you give equal respect to holocaust torturers or the soldiers who raped nanking? That's the basic way everyone justifies their atrocities, but I think that if we get rid of such way of thinking justifying something as absurd as war will end.

  • Great commentary as usual SA

  • Our troops serve this country, fight for this country, die for this country. They go where they are called for, sent to, without question. They chose to be this country's warriors, defenders, and they do it not because of the governing body that rules this country, but because of their own principles, because they want to serve their homeland. Say what you want about the government of the USA, but do NOT disrespect the men and women that fights and dies for this country.

  • You're retarded. Eat more spinach.

  • Bravo.

  • I'd blame elected officials but no more than the American sheeple who really showed their true colors.

    Be honest. Were you against the war from the beginning or were you out there waving flags and lusting after "towel head" blood?

    You've got the government you deserve. You got the foreign policy you voted for. You aren't so much against the war, you are mostly just against losing it.

    The fact that two nations of mostly innocent people have been destroyed means little to you even today.

  • Vote out the coward chickenhawks!!!

    Ron Paul 2008!!!

  • I've been a subscriber for awhile now and this is one of the finest videos yet from the Southern Avenger. I hope the troops and their families don't blame the United States of America for their losses and struggles. Blame the politicians, not the country. It's still a good country but we have to take it back from the Democrats and Republicans before it's destroyed.

  • This war has not only taken the lives of now several thouand American soldiers, but it has also taken a huge toll on our personal liberties. Good job, SA. Let's get out of the Middle East completely - and stay out.

  • good vlog. keep up the good work.

    i do have to agree with treysentio that Congress is as much to blame b/c they gave Bush the authority to go to war, unconstitutionally.

  • the more voices of dissent against the war the better.

  • none of this should be on george it should all be on congress he doesn't make decisions

  • 100% correct again SA. Ron Paul seriously needs to get you on his campaign committee or something. You rock man! Keep up the great work, I'll keep posting links to ya where ever I can.

  • you make awesome videos with a great message!

  • Another great video SA. I agree 100%

  • Wow, that's one of your best yet, and by the way No End in Sight should be a movie every patriot watches. Anyway, keep up the good work.

  • I highly recommend "No End in Sight" as well. I'm buying the DVD for a friend for Christmas.

    SA

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