I didn't know this camaro came with 4 mufflers!, there are two mufflers that run with the Intermediate pipes before the axle, look almost like glasspacks, REMOVE THEM!, and those 40 series Flowmaster's will really have some growl to the car, and make it a lil louder
@Osmosis1423 shut the fuck up dumb ass its a 2010 model. so u r saying if i buy a 1978 ford pinto in 2011 its actually a 2011 ford pinto? wow! go kill urself
@ericg83z Somewhat biased. Real tuners don't have exhausts bigger than the transmission. Real tuners actually have something under their hood. Real tuners go 10 or 11 seconds down the strip. Maybe faster. I'm a tuner guy. But not the one that'll put a body kit, and an exhaust on my car and call it a tuner. NOT ALL TUNERS ARE STUPID!!!!
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OK Big Boy since you are very tough and it looks like you are the ruler of your home, I am going to let you know just one thing I don't care what you think or what you own I am just saying the 2010 Camaro is the worst car I ever owned...
Does the exhaust on these cars come with a resonator?, if so, remove it!, and then maybe install some headers which will really make those Flowmaster 40's sound damn good.
most likely 40's, that's what just about what everyone with modern muscle runs when getting Flowmasters, That's what i"ve got on my 02 GT and also on my 92 RS Camaro.
It sounds good, but I was expecting a better sound. Sounds like something is holding it back, maybe get new CATs? Headers? Seems like it should have been louder.
i believe the 2010 v-6 camaro can beat a 2009 gt mustang, both have 300 hp, the v-6 revs up a little faster then the mustang there for the mustang gets beatened, even tho the mustang has a v-8 the v-6 camaro revs up quicker since the engine its smaller.
can ford make a 300 hp v-6 and put in in their mustangs? nope. u guys need a V-8 to even match hp. Thats pathetic that a base v-6 camaro can run with a mustang gt
dude look at the sheets man. v6 mustang vs camaro, v8 mustang vs camaro and when you slap on a supercharger with the mustang (gt500) vs a camaro with the supercharger, the camaro wins in every spec of the sheet. There are so many videos supporting my theory. So will the mustang ever be faster then a camaro? Um, no it wont
It'll be neck and neck with the SS. GM has also announced that the Z28 in back in the making for a mid-2011 introduction. Supposedly 530 or so hp and using the same LSA powerplant as the CTS-V.
yeah, and if you look the shelby mustang with 114 more hp than a camaro ss runs a quarter in .1 better than a camaro. so i dont get what your trying to say here.
I am not sure where you get your info, but the 2010 Shelby Cobra does a 12.4 spinning the tires stock. The Camaro does it in 13.0. So the run down is this. The Camaro is 40000 bucks for a 13 second car. The Shelby is a 55000 dollar car for a 12.4 second car and the Mustang GT is a 13.5 second car for 31000. Now what is the better buy? If you look at the difference in horsepower then they are over 100 horsepower different and Both mustangs are within .5
Um show me where I can get a SS V8 6spd Camaro at for 30 thousand. I know for a fact that my co worker (which we work at GM) payed 43000 for a loaded SS. I went to Ford in July to price a GT Mustang to replace my Dodge Ram and V8 5spd leather car was 32850. But I really like the Challenger better than both so I held off. I know the Challenger is slower than both cars but it looks so much better.
The Camaro is the better buy, with the 12000 you save from buying the GT500, you can supercharge the camaro, get new heads, cam, full exhaust, tune, intake, and be pushing 640-700 hp.
maybe the 05-09 Mustang GT but in 2011 thats all gonna change with the upgraded Mustang GT with the 5.0 liter O.H.C 32 Valve V8 412 hp 390 lbs feet of torque and way lighter in curb weight ..oh btw the 2011 GT500 has an all new aluminum block which sheds off 120 lbs and it has 550 hp ..camaros will be toast in 2011 ..FORD will rule the muscle car wars
Considering the 2011 GT500 is only making 10 more hp than the 2010, and the SS Camaro is what? .2 seconds slower? The Z28 is also back on in the plans and will have the 560 hp supercharged LSA motor in the CTS-V...I'm pretty sure the Z28 Camaro will out run the GT500.
I have no doubt that the Camaro will still be outrunning the Mustang like it did since..wow...Almost since production began in late 66.
@Jake111992 Its debatable but bone stock Camaros are now dipping into the 13.58-13.8 1/4 mile times, anyone who runs a 13.1, is either a terrible driver or sucking on purpose.
@TheMagicalBikeCrew I have too, thats a typo, I meant 12.58-12.8. *** Its debatable but bone stock Camaros are now dipping into the 13.58-13.8 1/4 mile times, anyone who runs a 13.1, is either a terrible driver or sucking on purpose**** Edit fixed
@Jake111992 We still don't know for sure what the powerplant will be in the Z. The LSA would be nice, but they may want to stick with the LS3 and supercharge it. It would be cheaper, more fuel efficient (I know, who cares), and would make factory builds easier. For now, we must wait.
The boss will run 4.2. Doesn't really matter since it's a highly limited production run. It's like comparing a Lingenfelter Camaro vs a normal regular production Challenger.
@Jake111992 true, but once camaro comes out with a z28 model, the gt500 will probably be pushing about 600hp to compete and running a 4 flat 0-60. Also the camaro needs 6.2 litre engine to keep up with mustangs 5.0! either way they are both amazing cars. i dont get why the gt500 is only like .2 tenths faster then normal gt and its like 15 grand more.
Ford doesn't have much left to work with to boost the power output without pushing more hp, which they won't due in order to keep customers from havin to pay the gas guzzler tax.
You have to remember that the 5.0 is a Ti-VCT DOHC 32V with a 11.0:1 compression ratio engine whereas the LS3 is a single cam push rod motor with only 16V and a 10.6:1 ratio. The 5.0 has a hell of a lot better air flow CFM numbers. Which gives it a better torque curve and high output.
@Jake111992 ok well yes the gt500 could be better.but a 2011 5.0 will beat a camaro ss easily too.slap a supercharger or procharger on the 5.0 and it would beat a gt500 im sure.let chevy have a year to be happy and then crush them.why did chevy stop the production of the camaro?it couldnt compete. the z/28 will come out and be bad ass for a year or two then ford will create a monster that will put its dick in anything it wants without even asking.
The camaro was put on hold at a time when the economy was starting to take a slight turn and gas prices were starting to go up, people didn't want a car they had to put premium in on every fillup. The Camaro couldn't complete when the 98-02 z28's and ss's EASILY out ran and out handle the New Edge Mustangs?
Don't argue on that, I've owned both and know the stats.
You still have to supercharge the 5.0, a smaller pulley is all it takes to stay ahead on the GT500.
Plus did you hear the Camaro ZR1 is coming back too...their only making 69 at 750 horsepower...so im sure its leaving that GT500 in the dust if not even that alot of super cars
@Jake111992 Camaro's are the best thing that ever happened to mustangs...for so long mustangs were nothing but junk. They were ugly and slow. Then along comes the 2010 Camaro and ford went fuck that shit mthr fkr! they gave ford a reason to make all of the mustangs 150% better than they used to.
so i really hope the camaro keeps stepping up its game, it only gives ford a reason to out do them in every way possible. The camaro has allot of draw backs and things to complain about. mustang none.
That's the reason I ended up buying a 2011 GT. The manual transmissions still suck though. Tremec wasn't the greatest Ford transmission choice ever but it was a hell of a lot better than the POS Getrag MT82 they're using now. I love the 6speed but wish I had a T56 or TR6060 instead. My MT82 whines like a spoiled 10 year old girl but otherwise I love the car. Damn good fuel economy with plenty of power.
@Jake111992 Awesome choice! I would have got a gt too..but for my first brand new vehicle between, being 19 years old, insurance prices and buying it on my own i had to go with the V6. I bought a 2012 V6 Premium..and as for the manual tranny..i have almost 5000 km on mine and haven't had a single issue , these new mustangs are amazing, V6 and V8! i have over 300 hp and get over 30mpg all day long and im lovin it haha.
You've only got 3k miles on yours though. Mine didn't start whining until around 7k miles. Currently I'm at 17k miles and it's getting louder. Not taking it in until Ford recalls the 2011 Manuals.
I get between 28-30 mpg on the hwy.
They redesigned the clutch for the 2012 model which fixed SOME of the trans issues.
I'm sure you've seen American Muscles 3.7L that they've got running 11's. Both Lethal and Kelly Performance have 5.0s that are dipping into the low 9's also.
@Jake111992 hmm well that's something ill watch out for i guess. Thats pretty good mpg for having over 400hp! didn't think they could get that. I get between 30-37 mpg on highway (doing the speed limit) but cruising at my own speeds it usually sits around 29-30. Costs $60 to fill and i can get around 600 km on a tank so far. to me that's pretty fkn good..Seeing as my V6 Nissan with 153hp barely gets half that. Yeah AM's 3.7l is siiick.
...until the next year or two where they make the camaro better. between the two of them its more a matter of which you find more visually appealing. historically, camaros have performed very slightly better where as the mustangs have been more comfortable inside. both cars look decent- the new mustangs with the rounded off front end look really nice.
yeah but look at the price a pro-charged v6 mustang would spank the v8 mustang and that v6 camaro with like 3grand to spare chevy needs to worry about selling cars than trying to make all these muscle cars to beat other car makers because the camaro is oh so great to you chevy lovers but your not buying the car while mustangs and challengers are out selling the camaro
@Jake111992 yeah thats because hertz and enterprise are buying them up for rental cars at tops in Philadelphia yall see maybe one camaro a week their just not selling here. Its a nice car but I would rather get a v6 mustang and procharge it ,headers, pipes, ported &polished heads,ECU remap and get like 400hp running E85 for $30,000 than pay $34,000 plus 8%tax just for a base model car even if it does put up good numbers I would buy the new 2010 lacrosse before I would get a camaro
I've never seen a rental Camaro, are they making them into limited edition cars like they did the mustang? If I was a teen I know what'd I'd be looking to rent for prom. Doing all that to a V6 Stang is gonna cost more than $30K, and here the max on tax on a vehicle is something like $500. I'd look into a newer C6 Corvette before I'd buy anything lol
@Jake111992 no for all those mods it would only be $10grand procharger kit cost cost 6gs installed the heads job is only 800 a virgin ecu is like 500 and your already get a free tune from procharger beeing installed header are 500 full dual exhaust$1,200 and E85 conversion is only$200. call enterprise they have shitloads of camaros I live in a major city maybe thats why
I live near Charlotte, NC and have only seen privately owned Camaro's. I've seen where Enterprise has tons of mustangs, but never a camaro.
Doesn't the V6 Mustang cost $22K new? So 22k plus 10k = 32k. Why not just get a new GT Mustang, have nearly the same hp and a lot less work to be done. Then you can mod the GT and make a ton more hp than you ever would with the V6?
LOL it will not run with a mustang gt. The V6 camaro runs a 14.7 quarter mile. That is slower than the Hyundai's 2010 Genesis Coupe. The Mustang GT is .5 slower than a SS camaro that has 100 MORE horsepower. I cant wait till next year when everyone is saying it isnt fair that the new 2011 mustang is faster.
Look up any info about the 2010 V6 Camaro put up against the 09 V8 Mustang GT and it shows that the Camaro will not only put out 15 more horsepower than the GT but smoked it in a half mile drag race. The V6 Camaro outruns the GT
go ahead and laugh at the v6 with the lowest level of the 2010 camaro just the v6 is pushing 300 hp.... laugh now. thats a shitload of power for a v6. would you laugh at a 2010 mustang gt reving up? its a v8 but that v6 camaro has just as much power. so go ahead... laugh
That is 1 UGLY camaro rear end,especially with the square trimmed exhaust outlets !! You guys sure know how to F*** up a pretty car !
Stucknarutt 3 months ago
Does the frameless door windows produce wind noise?
game2heart 5 months ago
if your gonna compare a zr1 to gt500 then compare it to a gt500 super snake its only fair that u compare 700+ horsepower cars against each other.
vipergtfury 9 months ago
omg people relax holy shit he bought it in 09 its a 2010 model who cares
gulinost323 10 months ago
i dnt think they had a pinto in 78
codynb92 11 months ago
flowmasters always sound like stock mufflers.
Syrius187 11 months ago
lmao '09' camaro, rev it up lmao
jcmknl2005 1 year ago
I didn't know this camaro came with 4 mufflers!, there are two mufflers that run with the Intermediate pipes before the axle, look almost like glasspacks, REMOVE THEM!, and those 40 series Flowmaster's will really have some growl to the car, and make it a lil louder
VayLoc310 1 year ago
Don't like the chrome trim around the exhaust mufflers. Sorry =/ But that's the only thing i didn't like =]
wolf1010 1 year ago
yeah i agree, corsa or borla, personally i like the sound of the corsa exhaust on this car
ACFP 1 year ago
sorry but camaros should have corsa
grunt2214 1 year ago
@grunt2214 Corsa or Borla. I agree
kushnugz 1 year ago
There was no 2009 Camaro.
waterdrop006 1 year ago
its not 2009 Camaro idiot! Its 2010
EightEqualsDdotcom1 1 year ago
theres no such thing as a 09 camaro but ok
kingmario52 1 year ago 48
@kingmario52 yeah I know but he got it mix up with being a 10 camaro remember it was on market by 09 so that was his fault
IzikMuzik 1 year ago
@kingmario52 look at the date the video was added... it may be a 2010 camaro but he bought it in 2009 so its technically a 2009 camaro.
Osmosis1423 1 year ago
@Osmosis1423 um no lol
kingmario52 1 year ago
@Osmosis1423 shut the fuck up dumb ass its a 2010 model. so u r saying if i buy a 1978 ford pinto in 2011 its actually a 2011 ford pinto? wow! go kill urself
lioookm 1 year ago
@kingmario52 Some came out in aug 2009 (MINE DID )
jowga 11 months ago
@kingmario52 LOL!!
MrBBOY760 4 months ago
@MrBBOY760 I forgot i posted this lol
kingmario52 4 months ago
nice car, but leave the flowmasters for mustangs........ this doesn't sound good. maybe because it's a v6???
pkidro 1 year ago
perfect sound
andrzejASG 1 year ago
yes its a 2010 and little turners suck they go fast but weigh like 5 pounds they suck American Muscle will always be the best.
Daveyhawkins5 1 year ago
...isn't it a 2010?
grenade350 1 year ago
hmm give it 10 years and the muscle cars will dissapear again, and it will be stupid tuners runnin around with maxwell coffee cans on the exhaust
ericg83z 1 year ago
@ericg83z Somewhat biased. Real tuners don't have exhausts bigger than the transmission. Real tuners actually have something under their hood. Real tuners go 10 or 11 seconds down the strip. Maybe faster. I'm a tuner guy. But not the one that'll put a body kit, and an exhaust on my car and call it a tuner. NOT ALL TUNERS ARE STUPID!!!!
skillibo1 1 year ago
not 2009 2010
MrCamaro2000 1 year ago
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spcadamh 1 year ago
i take it you mean 2010.
ferrarimk13 2 years ago 2
Well I love Camaro but not that specific one.
Masoud5991 2 years ago 2
sound like shit .looks like shit .get a new car ...
hksgsx 2 years ago
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kushnugz 2 years ago
well shut up and keep driving your mom mini van ....if you have a license!!!!!
hksgsx 2 years ago
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kushnugz 2 years ago
and pink undewear too?
hksgsx 2 years ago
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kushnugz 2 years ago
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OK Big Boy since you are very tough and it looks like you are the ruler of your home, I am going to let you know just one thing I don't care what you think or what you own I am just saying the 2010 Camaro is the worst car I ever owned...
hksgsx 2 years ago
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kushnugz 2 years ago
sure.whatever.get a life ...
hksgsx 2 years ago
@hksgsx
hahah you lose.
SeBBaSs841 2 years ago
@hksgsx
are you sure you owned a "2010 Chevy Camaro" ........ dude
450God 1 year ago
lmao there aint no 09 camaro!...its 2010! dont wanna read all comments but im sure some1 mentioned it before! very good video though
davidmx737 2 years ago
Too quiet for Flowmasters...remove the resonators or cats.
Jake111992 2 years ago
Does the exhaust on these cars come with a resonator?, if so, remove it!, and then maybe install some headers which will really make those Flowmaster 40's sound damn good.
VayLoc310 2 years ago
RICE
benz4life 2 years ago
@benz4life Rice? That's pure American Muscle right there.
Charles2337 2 years ago
I know its the factory bodykit. That doesn't mean you need to put it on a pony/muscle car of al things.
paradigmats22 2 years ago
ew! to quiet
tayb0987 2 years ago
09, what a dumbass. And that horrible bodykit needs to be ripped off, this is not a civic.
paradigmats22 2 years ago
the body kit is the ground effects package, it is disgusting from the back but nice in the front
TheMagicalBikeCrew 2 years ago
You shouldn't be owning a Camaro if you have no clue what year it is!
It's a 2010, there is no 2009!!!!!
JJSoCrazy 2 years ago
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is that a v6? sure sounds like it
OGJDUBS 2 years ago
idiot. how can you even think that sounds like a V6. fail.
lespaul12001 2 years ago 2
lol look at the whole body of the car shifting when he revs it no way it can be a v6
DetroitPC313 2 years ago
DYNOMAX BULLETS FTW!!!!
badgn 2 years ago
2010 CAMARO, THERE IS NO 2009!
GeneralMotorsRules 2 years ago
Actually there is a 2009 Camaro. Its the 6 cylinder or RS...... there is no 2009 SS Camaro only a 2010 SS Camaro.
Csnowboarder3 2 years ago
Nope, you're completely wrong, you can't even argue here. There is no 2009 Chevrolet Camaro in any form.
GeneralMotorsRules 2 years ago
Damn I get tired of hearing flowmasters on every V8.......
screamingdemon 2 years ago
flowmasters are the best sounding mufflers out there
ZR1Terror 2 years ago
No such thing as an 09 Camaro. 2010 is the official model year, available in mid 2009.
derbydriver 2 years ago
There is no 2009 Camaro.
dotCody 2 years ago
Camaro is out selling mustang and everyone else !
icemancars 2 years ago
looks like ss truck back end awfull
bradgore 2 years ago
what 40 series are they?
jkash56 2 years ago
09 Camaro? Wow what an idiot.
S1K07GTSTANG 2 years ago 10
@S1K07GTSTANG it was made in 2009 sherlock lol. but yes it is a 2010 model. but im almost 100% sure it was made in 2009 ;)
TheCompyshop 1 year ago
2010 is the year chevys calling it. but it came out in 2009
insanespad45 2 years ago 15
what Model number of flowmasters did you use
Sweet68Camaro 2 years ago
most likely 40's, that's what just about what everyone with modern muscle runs when getting Flowmasters, That's what i"ve got on my 02 GT and also on my 92 RS Camaro.
Jake111992 2 years ago
sounds like shit
7ht1ow3 2 years ago
'10 Camaro.. not '09 ... Sounds okay, but isn't very deep like most flowmasters are, Stock headers maybe ?
xxxJectxxx 2 years ago
It sounds good, but I was expecting a better sound. Sounds like something is holding it back, maybe get new CATs? Headers? Seems like it should have been louder.
erc350z71 2 years ago
The mustang would sound so much better if you had CHROME dual flowmasters :)
r21h21 2 years ago
that sounds fuckin' mean. im in love.
LazyMofo69 2 years ago
u guys are dumb its a v8 faggot
doobydogg 2 years ago
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Basz112 2 years ago
ITs a V6 Faggot
Basz112 2 years ago
u gotta be stupid to say a car sounding like that is a v6. no exhaust can make a v6 sound like that.
insanespad45 2 years ago
dude u can check it its a v6
Basz112 2 years ago
its a 2010 buddy
acmannino08 2 years ago
Sounds mean for a v6
JspookSS 2 years ago
i believe the 2010 v-6 camaro can beat a 2009 gt mustang, both have 300 hp, the v-6 revs up a little faster then the mustang there for the mustang gets beatened, even tho the mustang has a v-8 the v-6 camaro revs up quicker since the engine its smaller.
JJGerardo 2 years ago
yeah well what you believe is wrong.
08FordMustangGT 2 years ago
nope.... mustang gt's be beatin my ass
howdoustop25 2 years ago
The Mustang GT is what, 300-400 pounds lighter than the V6 Camaro? Please. It'll be half a second behind.
ChocoTaco369 2 years ago
can ford make a 300 hp v-6 and put in in their mustangs? nope. u guys need a V-8 to even match hp. Thats pathetic that a base v-6 camaro can run with a mustang gt
Greenflames510 2 years ago
Um no it wont...it will kill a V6 craparo. A 2010 Mustang runs 13.5 that is .5 difference than a Camaro SS with over 100 more horsepower.
venomfastback 2 years ago
dude look at the sheets man. v6 mustang vs camaro, v8 mustang vs camaro and when you slap on a supercharger with the mustang (gt500) vs a camaro with the supercharger, the camaro wins in every spec of the sheet. There are so many videos supporting my theory. So will the mustang ever be faster then a camaro? Um, no it wont
Greenflames510 2 years ago
What few years has the Mustang ever been faster than the Camaro??? Not many.
Jake111992 2 years ago
idk if you know this but the new 2011 mustang gt might be faster then the camaro ss.......
360mmspider 2 years ago
It'll be neck and neck with the SS. GM has also announced that the Z28 in back in the making for a mid-2011 introduction. Supposedly 530 or so hp and using the same LSA powerplant as the CTS-V.
Jake111992 2 years ago
yeah, and if you look the shelby mustang with 114 more hp than a camaro ss runs a quarter in .1 better than a camaro. so i dont get what your trying to say here.
TmzJ10 2 years ago
I am not sure where you get your info, but the 2010 Shelby Cobra does a 12.4 spinning the tires stock. The Camaro does it in 13.0. So the run down is this. The Camaro is 40000 bucks for a 13 second car. The Shelby is a 55000 dollar car for a 12.4 second car and the Mustang GT is a 13.5 second car for 31000. Now what is the better buy? If you look at the difference in horsepower then they are over 100 horsepower different and Both mustangs are within .5
venomfastback 2 years ago
lol ur times are right if the person cant drive for shit.
Camaros5678 2 years ago
camaro ss starts at around 30k same with mustang. with all the options both get close to 40
bballman345 2 years ago
Um show me where I can get a SS V8 6spd Camaro at for 30 thousand. I know for a fact that my co worker (which we work at GM) payed 43000 for a loaded SS. I went to Ford in July to price a GT Mustang to replace my Dodge Ram and V8 5spd leather car was 32850. But I really like the Challenger better than both so I held off. I know the Challenger is slower than both cars but it looks so much better.
venomfastback 2 years ago
I bought my 2010 camaro 1SS 6 spd with RS package for 33000, its not fully loaded as the 2SS though
itisinevitable1 2 years ago
$33000 for the camaro, off by $7 grand.
The Camaro is the better buy, with the 12000 you save from buying the GT500, you can supercharge the camaro, get new heads, cam, full exhaust, tune, intake, and be pushing 640-700 hp.
Jake111992 2 years ago
yea but the shelby is suppose to be up there with the vette except the vette is better
javi1373 2 years ago
The SS outruns the GT though.
Jake111992 2 years ago
maybe the 05-09 Mustang GT but in 2011 thats all gonna change with the upgraded Mustang GT with the 5.0 liter O.H.C 32 Valve V8 412 hp 390 lbs feet of torque and way lighter in curb weight ..oh btw the 2011 GT500 has an all new aluminum block which sheds off 120 lbs and it has 550 hp ..camaros will be toast in 2011 ..FORD will rule the muscle car wars
fashizze 1 year ago
Considering the 2011 GT500 is only making 10 more hp than the 2010, and the SS Camaro is what? .2 seconds slower? The Z28 is also back on in the plans and will have the 560 hp supercharged LSA motor in the CTS-V...I'm pretty sure the Z28 Camaro will out run the GT500.
I have no doubt that the Camaro will still be outrunning the Mustang like it did since..wow...Almost since production began in late 66.
Jake111992 1 year ago 9
gotta wait and see
fashizze 1 year ago
I could care less, I like both Ford and GM...Fuck dodge and it's piece of shit vehicles.
I have right now a 02 GT manual, 92 RS Camaro with 45K miles, and a 73 Camaro under going restoration.
Jake111992 1 year ago
the challenger would be a better vehicle if it didnt weigh so damn much
fashizze 1 year ago 2
@fashizze
Suuuuuuuure it would...even then it might be able to sell more than 1100 units a month!!!
LMFAO
Jake111992 1 year ago
...and if it were actually visually appealing and not a chopped down 300.
Slyther83 1 year ago
@Jake111992 Its debatable but bone stock Camaros are now dipping into the 13.58-13.8 1/4 mile times, anyone who runs a 13.1, is either a terrible driver or sucking on purpose.
DarkLinkAD 1 year ago
@DarkLinkAD I've seen a 12.6 bone stock LS3.
TheMagicalBikeCrew 1 year ago
@TheMagicalBikeCrew I have too, thats a typo, I meant 12.58-12.8. *** Its debatable but bone stock Camaros are now dipping into the 13.58-13.8 1/4 mile times, anyone who runs a 13.1, is either a terrible driver or sucking on purpose**** Edit fixed
DarkLinkAD 1 year ago
@Jake111992 We still don't know for sure what the powerplant will be in the Z. The LSA would be nice, but they may want to stick with the LS3 and supercharge it. It would be cheaper, more fuel efficient (I know, who cares), and would make factory builds easier. For now, we must wait.
TheMagicalBikeCrew 1 year ago
@Jake111992 no not true, mustang has the boss and also the gt350 coming out both running a 4 second 0-60. camaro runs a 4.6
redstang10 1 year ago
@redstang10
The boss will run 4.2. Doesn't really matter since it's a highly limited production run. It's like comparing a Lingenfelter Camaro vs a normal regular production Challenger.
Jake111992 1 year ago
@Jake111992 true, but once camaro comes out with a z28 model, the gt500 will probably be pushing about 600hp to compete and running a 4 flat 0-60. Also the camaro needs 6.2 litre engine to keep up with mustangs 5.0! either way they are both amazing cars. i dont get why the gt500 is only like .2 tenths faster then normal gt and its like 15 grand more.
redstang10 1 year ago
@redstang10
Ford doesn't have much left to work with to boost the power output without pushing more hp, which they won't due in order to keep customers from havin to pay the gas guzzler tax.
You have to remember that the 5.0 is a Ti-VCT DOHC 32V with a 11.0:1 compression ratio engine whereas the LS3 is a single cam push rod motor with only 16V and a 10.6:1 ratio. The 5.0 has a hell of a lot better air flow CFM numbers. Which gives it a better torque curve and high output.
Jake111992 1 year ago
@Jake111992 ok well yes the gt500 could be better.but a 2011 5.0 will beat a camaro ss easily too.slap a supercharger or procharger on the 5.0 and it would beat a gt500 im sure.let chevy have a year to be happy and then crush them.why did chevy stop the production of the camaro?it couldnt compete. the z/28 will come out and be bad ass for a year or two then ford will create a monster that will put its dick in anything it wants without even asking.
blackpenguin69 1 year ago
@blackpenguin69
The camaro was put on hold at a time when the economy was starting to take a slight turn and gas prices were starting to go up, people didn't want a car they had to put premium in on every fillup. The Camaro couldn't complete when the 98-02 z28's and ss's EASILY out ran and out handle the New Edge Mustangs?
Don't argue on that, I've owned both and know the stats.
You still have to supercharge the 5.0, a smaller pulley is all it takes to stay ahead on the GT500.
Jake111992 1 year ago
Plus did you hear the Camaro ZR1 is coming back too...their only making 69 at 750 horsepower...so im sure its leaving that GT500 in the dust if not even that alot of super cars
chuy714XOTO 1 year ago
@chuy714XOTO
The z28 is going to have the CTS-V's LSA engine in it, 556? hp....way more than enough to put it in the low 12's.
Jake111992 1 year ago
@Jake111992 Camaro's are the best thing that ever happened to mustangs...for so long mustangs were nothing but junk. They were ugly and slow. Then along comes the 2010 Camaro and ford went fuck that shit mthr fkr! they gave ford a reason to make all of the mustangs 150% better than they used to.
so i really hope the camaro keeps stepping up its game, it only gives ford a reason to out do them in every way possible. The camaro has allot of draw backs and things to complain about. mustang none.
BeforeTheUnseen 3 months ago
@BeforeTheUnseen
That's the reason I ended up buying a 2011 GT. The manual transmissions still suck though. Tremec wasn't the greatest Ford transmission choice ever but it was a hell of a lot better than the POS Getrag MT82 they're using now. I love the 6speed but wish I had a T56 or TR6060 instead. My MT82 whines like a spoiled 10 year old girl but otherwise I love the car. Damn good fuel economy with plenty of power.
Jake111992 3 months ago
@Jake111992 Awesome choice! I would have got a gt too..but for my first brand new vehicle between, being 19 years old, insurance prices and buying it on my own i had to go with the V6. I bought a 2012 V6 Premium..and as for the manual tranny..i have almost 5000 km on mine and haven't had a single issue , these new mustangs are amazing, V6 and V8! i have over 300 hp and get over 30mpg all day long and im lovin it haha.
BeforeTheUnseen 3 months ago
@BeforeTheUnseen
You've only got 3k miles on yours though. Mine didn't start whining until around 7k miles. Currently I'm at 17k miles and it's getting louder. Not taking it in until Ford recalls the 2011 Manuals.
I get between 28-30 mpg on the hwy.
They redesigned the clutch for the 2012 model which fixed SOME of the trans issues.
I'm sure you've seen American Muscles 3.7L that they've got running 11's. Both Lethal and Kelly Performance have 5.0s that are dipping into the low 9's also.
Jake111992 3 months ago
@Jake111992 hmm well that's something ill watch out for i guess. Thats pretty good mpg for having over 400hp! didn't think they could get that. I get between 30-37 mpg on highway (doing the speed limit) but cruising at my own speeds it usually sits around 29-30. Costs $60 to fill and i can get around 600 km on a tank so far. to me that's pretty fkn good..Seeing as my V6 Nissan with 153hp barely gets half that. Yeah AM's 3.7l is siiick.
BeforeTheUnseen 3 months ago
lol, the Mustang will never be the top muscle car. It's always one step behind the Camaro
CamaRO9923 1 year ago
...until the next year or two where they make the camaro better. between the two of them its more a matter of which you find more visually appealing. historically, camaros have performed very slightly better where as the mustangs have been more comfortable inside. both cars look decent- the new mustangs with the rounded off front end look really nice.
Slyther83 1 year ago
yeah but look at the price a pro-charged v6 mustang would spank the v8 mustang and that v6 camaro with like 3grand to spare chevy needs to worry about selling cars than trying to make all these muscle cars to beat other car makers because the camaro is oh so great to you chevy lovers but your not buying the car while mustangs and challengers are out selling the camaro
bighorse215 2 years ago
Funny how the 2010 Camaro has outsold both the Mustang and Challenger for the past 6 months.
Jake111992 2 years ago
@Jake111992 yeah thats because hertz and enterprise are buying them up for rental cars at tops in Philadelphia yall see maybe one camaro a week their just not selling here. Its a nice car but I would rather get a v6 mustang and procharge it ,headers, pipes, ported &polished heads,ECU remap and get like 400hp running E85 for $30,000 than pay $34,000 plus 8%tax just for a base model car even if it does put up good numbers I would buy the new 2010 lacrosse before I would get a camaro
bighorse215 2 years ago
I've never seen a rental Camaro, are they making them into limited edition cars like they did the mustang? If I was a teen I know what'd I'd be looking to rent for prom. Doing all that to a V6 Stang is gonna cost more than $30K, and here the max on tax on a vehicle is something like $500. I'd look into a newer C6 Corvette before I'd buy anything lol
Jake111992 2 years ago
@Jake111992 no for all those mods it would only be $10grand procharger kit cost cost 6gs installed the heads job is only 800 a virgin ecu is like 500 and your already get a free tune from procharger beeing installed header are 500 full dual exhaust$1,200 and E85 conversion is only$200. call enterprise they have shitloads of camaros I live in a major city maybe thats why
bighorse215 2 years ago
I live near Charlotte, NC and have only seen privately owned Camaro's. I've seen where Enterprise has tons of mustangs, but never a camaro.
Doesn't the V6 Mustang cost $22K new? So 22k plus 10k = 32k. Why not just get a new GT Mustang, have nearly the same hp and a lot less work to be done. Then you can mod the GT and make a ton more hp than you ever would with the V6?
Jake111992 2 years ago
LOL it will not run with a mustang gt. The V6 camaro runs a 14.7 quarter mile. That is slower than the Hyundai's 2010 Genesis Coupe. The Mustang GT is .5 slower than a SS camaro that has 100 MORE horsepower. I cant wait till next year when everyone is saying it isnt fair that the new 2011 mustang is faster.
venomfastback 2 years ago
funny, the 2010 SS weighs over 300 lbs more and has a lower rear end gearing.
Jake111992 2 years ago
It cant. And how about next year when ford puts the 365 hp Ecoboost, twin turboed V6 into the Mustang like then did with the Taurus SHO.
Jake111992 2 years ago
Dumbass dude, the 09 GT has 300 hp, 320 ft/lb of torque, and weighs 300 lbs less.
The 2010 V6 Camaro weighs 300 lbs more, has only 4 hp more, but has a measly 273 ft/lb or torque.
The GT outruns the V6 Camaro.
Jake111992 2 years ago
Look up any info about the 2010 V6 Camaro put up against the 09 V8 Mustang GT and it shows that the Camaro will not only put out 15 more horsepower than the GT but smoked it in a half mile drag race. The V6 Camaro outruns the GT
Jodryna 2 years ago
V6 Camaro: 14.2 @ 98.9
2010 GT Mustang: 13.5@ 104.2
I think you want the lowest number for time...If I'm not a dumbass like you.
HP isn't what wins races, you want TORQUE to back it.
Jake111992 2 years ago
@Jake111992
v6 vs v8. We all know whats going to win stock. Seriously. Im pretty sure most of us arnt retarded.
Supramann3 2 years ago
lmao, evidently Jodryna is.
Jake111992 2 years ago
go ahead and laugh at the v6 with the lowest level of the 2010 camaro just the v6 is pushing 300 hp.... laugh now. thats a shitload of power for a v6. would you laugh at a 2010 mustang gt reving up? its a v8 but that v6 camaro has just as much power. so go ahead... laugh
mustangg101 2 years ago
alot hp means nothing if its heavy. even if it does have the same amout of hp as the mustang gt it couldnt keep up with it.
08FordMustangGT 2 years ago
300 lbs is .6 second worth of time in the 1/4.
Who gives a shit about hp? Look at the tuners, they have high hp but low torque, and still run slow 1/4 times.
You need something with that Hp called TORQUE to get you going.
Jake111992 2 years ago
LOL is that a V6?
pickertr0 2 years ago
it is a V6 the black editions only comes in V6
Camaros5678 2 years ago
Garbage!
pickertr0 2 years ago
lol calm down thats y u get a ss or wait for z28 if it comes out lol ;)
Camaros5678 2 years ago
get educated before you post grandmother fucking shit bitch
chopper82p 2 years ago
y pick a fight over something stupid that will b fotgotten in a week.
Camaros5678 2 years ago
more like 5 minutes
resellworld 2 years ago
actually i was replying to camaro5678
chopper82p 2 years ago
lol
Saysasitis 2 years ago
black editions? You know that was just a sema thing right? this is just a black car.
Blacklung27 2 years ago
o lol i did not know that but i did hear the black edition camaros come only in V6 tobad not a V8
Supermanandjoanna 2 years ago
not only too quiet...its a 2010 not 2009 camaro
JohnnyChimpoSS 2 years ago
make's it sound like a old truck
TeamBaddAss 2 years ago
bad deal having Flows on a 2010 Camaro, its too quiet and there are better choices like Corsa, even MBRP
louizpimp7 2 years ago
to quiet
EHmasterjedi 2 years ago