Yeah right, they are not telling you what really happened behind the scenes. The chevy driver was abusing the throttle while the ford was coasting it. Put the ford on a flex bed test and see what happens! It's a pos " CHEVY RUNS DEEP" . We have the corvette the flagship of american sport and the chevy silverado 2011 motor trend truck of the year
lol, of course ford will win, its "ford trucks" yt account hahahahaha, check out the king of the hill challenge. gtfo lmao they gotta put all the high perf tunes on it to compete.
@390merc65 to be honest i dont care or mind where anything is made, as long as it is the best ima have it... im not gonna buy less reliable truck just because the engine was designed in "america"... for all you know ot could be a jap who designed it aswell. but im not going to aegue over that. buy whatever you feel most comfotable driving. i use to be a 7.3 fan until they jumped to the 6.0... now im nothing but 6.6, cheers man
they made some "minor" changes... like going from a 6.4 to a 6.7... Dmax has been around for more than a decade with the same 6.6 engine.. thats guys stupid... but then again hes getting paid to advertise ford
@Duramost the dmax might be around longer but you can thank the japanese manufacture [isuzu] who built them..GM & dodge buy their diesels..ford stepped up and made their own.so at least when you buy a ford..you get a ford..not a mixed bag of parts ..remember GM's first 2 attempts at making their own diesel??..both were nothing to brag about
Ford's best fuel mileage claim with the new 6.7 psd is a lie,13 mpg most of the time.The new 6.7 psd is a pile of junk,Jasper came out with over 70 upgrades already.Plus it does not have the power either what I have been hearing.My father's 2011 Dodge with the cummins gets 16 to 17 MPG most of the time
i like how they used a 3.73 rear end in the chevy and a 3.31 in the ford, so STUPID!!! why cant they just compare the same setup against the same setup
@MAGTRAIN Yea, I know. But hey, Chevy did the same thing in their HD to HD comparison, so I guess its fair. Thats why we perform our test in the real world, and the chev always comes out on top.
Listen all you ford hating fucks. Everyone has there own opinion on trucks! If you don't like the video why even fucking watch it? You just make yourself look stupid complaining about how each truck match's up. Just shut the fuck up and don't watch it. As simple as that you fucks
Gm is high prices in 2007 my mom tried to buy a new 2007 gmc Yukon Denali & we knew somebody who worked at the gmc dealer & we got a discount. The lease price came out to 951 a month then we went to ford to look at the 2007 ford expedition Eddie Bauer & we got one for 539. & the ford keeps it's value for along time the gmc would be worth 20,000 the ford is worth 30,000
You all now this video was made by ford and the rumble in the rockies was made chevy. you dumbass's. all of this is hype. just go to the fleet manager at ford and you can get the best deals on work trucks. plain as they get. they sell for less in quanities. companies buy cheap. bottom line. ford sells the crap out of them. by the way ford did a good job with the new line of engines in 2011. i hope they got the demons out of them. hope they dropped the company that makes the wiring harnesses.
These tests are such bs because ford puts the best gears in the truck for the test! Have everything in both trucks the exact same ( including gears)... Chevy will win every time.. Go check out the rumble in the Rockies for the truth!!
May I ask y when chevy does a test like this chevy wins and ford does the same tests ford wins mmmmmmmmmm both companies wouldn't be paying the test ppl so there heavy duty trucks would win would they????? Very strange
I usually like both chevys and fords evenly but ford is got ALOT going on with their trucks and GM seems to hardly give a crap about theirs from what I always read. GM knows this and concentrate more on their other lines like SUVs and cars.
Nice try, but the trucks were in concery with each other the whole time. And of course the Chevy adds aint gonna let Ford when, even though they use the wrong gearing ratios, final drives, are even but the gearing PER-gear was lower for the Super Duty.
see heres the thing, you've got Ford techs running this test whereas when the gm trucks were proven better you editors from magazines doing the testing in an un-biased manner. Ford cant face the fact that they lost. Fuck ford.
GM can't even test fairly, they use uneven axel ratios PER-GEAR, and try to play it off like the final drive is waht determines the correct gearing. Chevy fuckers can't face the fact they make an inferior product FUCK GM. Just as many magazines ranked the Super Duty better dup shit. Popular Mechanics, Field and Stream, Diesel Magazines. Fuck you.
@SecularTechnology They used the exact same gear ratio - 3.73 You fucking idiot. Why dont educate yourself before you come back with some bullshit reply. Field and Stream? If your gonna take their opinion you are too fucking stupid to talk to. How about this- Chevy HD truck of the year rated by Diesel Power, Motortrend, Pick-up Truck magazine. Your list is Fuckin weak. The fact that there are uneven gears per-gear is fords fuckin problem. FORD GOT FUCKING RAPED YOU FAGGOT.
I think ford makes great cars and trucks and chevy makes equally good cars but their trucks are a little bit lower. But any AMERICAN truck is good in my book and im probaly going to get a chevy 2500 duramax because its cheaper than a super duty and it would be my first car.
the bad thing bout these vids that fordtrucks has it that its all bias, come on now they are testing their truck on tests they use, not tests GM or dodge uses
The new Ford's are definitely a good truck. I don't believe the FORD will get any better diesel mileage when it comes down to it though. In this video, the Ford is using a 3:31 ratio which accounts for lower RPM's. Chevy is using 3:73. I looked up the gear ratios in the new transmissions and the ratios are similar between FORD's new 6R140 trans and the current Allison 1000 in the Duramax. It's hard to beat a Duramax/Allison combo. Ford made claims like this with the 6.4L.
Question: What are among the best-selling vehicles in North America? Answer: Ford F-Series. I'm not suggesting the GM HDs are inferior. I'm a Ford truck guy but will be the first to acknowledge GM makes an excellent HD truck, without question! But in the court of public opinion, what really counts are what consumers buy - and what they have bought more historically are F-Series trucks.
You know wat i think is BS about this vid? They made the dmax haul ass with the load and of course your gonnna go thru fuel quicker and not have good economy, the dmax must have been doing 60-70 mph while the stroker was probably doing 50-55 which made it not go thru so much fuel and made it get better mpg. I bet if the were both going the same speed on cruise control the dmax cud have possibley won.
EVERY DAMN MAKE OF TRUCKS OR CARS OR MOTOCYCLES AND EVERY SINGLE COMPANY IN THE WORLD DO THIS! STFU OR JUST DONT WATCH IT! MY GOD, THE WHINERS ON YOUTUBE! yall are the jokes!!
When ford face real test they lose a lot of credibility a chevrolet, it is test are arranged like those or dirty job guys makes us believe that ford are the best around, sorry guys of ford they will you be
YEA RIGGED VIDEO TO BAD THEY COULDNT COMPARE TO ANYTHING ELSE THEN FUEL MILAGE LIKE EVERYBODY SAID FEB DIESAL POWER MAG TESTED FAIR BY REAAL TEST CREW NO FAKE FORD BULLSHIT LAST YEAR YEA FORD HAD A BETTER TRUCK THIS YEAR CHEVY ATE YOUR POWERJOKE ALIVE AND FORD CANT STAND IT DURAMAX POWERSTROKE KILLA
WOW ... Ford gets slightly better MPG.. LOL But what about EVERYTHING ELSE? Chevy SIlverado has MORE power, MORE towing, BETTER warranty, BETTER build quality. LONGER lasting MORE reliable.. I guess when your the BEST ford has to try something. Next they will have a video saying "Our truck is better because our wheels are prettier" COME ON!!! WOW ford this was LAME! Why spend thousands of dollars on BS!? I will take a Silverado over a ford ANYDAY ANNNNYYYDAYYYYYYYYYYY
@ValerieSmith2020 Actually, the Ford has more power, more towing, and doesn't need a warranty because you will not have to use it. It is not only a truck but a good QUALITY ride.
Guess you are proud of that Isuzu engine? Ever seen what an allison looks like after it explodes lol. Pretty nasty. ONLY reaosn they got truck of the year was due to tax payer money paying off motor trend. Government can do what it wants. I'm an american, I buy american and support a true american company.
duracrap from izusu, keep sending money to china so economy sucks more, brand new redesing chevy for 2009 ohh snap wait lets save n just use old frames, put blocks n done, ups, the drive shafts snap, its ok is a chevy
Plus they took off at the same time and the Chevrolet is way ahead when it pulls over so the Ford driver was obviously way easier on the throttle. Ford is so damn full of shit it makes me sick
@MrDuramax5 duracrap izusu motor, cmon man, lets stay american here powerstroke made by international, as those big semis on the road, they know what is ment to work
@LAUCAINC Actually, the Powerstroke is now made by Ford, but It's still made here In the Good Ol' USA, now if Ford put CAT's in the Super Duty that will be something
Fuck Ford!!! Diesel power clearly said the Chevrolet does better. This lying gray haired motherfucker is full of it. My friend n his brother have 2011 Ford n Chevy. The duramax beats it by far in every way possible
@fel2193zep haha exactly this is the first i have heard of the super duty being best in class, I would much rather drive the chev. Have had to many problems with a power stroke
If you really worried about gas mileage you probably cant afford to buy a big truck like either one of these anyway! Go get a small import car if you worried about gas mileage and stay outta the way of the BIG BOY TRUCKS!
still chevy looks way better ford is just getting a huuuuuuuugeee headlights and huuuge grill and chevy is just perfect just a celan look for a heavy duty truck
331 rear in the ford thats not even real world almost all come with a 355 the 331 was just to lower the reves and win at this test but use that same truck to tow a heavy load and it wont even get out of its own way!!!!!!!!!! this test is such BS
Everyone's gotta keep in mind that videos like these are partisan, and in this case, it puts Ford in the best possible light. So you really don't have anything credible here. Having said that, when it comes to heavy duty (4wd) pickup trucks, I'll take a Ford (or even a Dodge, to a lesser extent) any-day over a Chevy - Main Reason: Front Suspension. There's just so much more that can go wrong with an independent front suspension (used on the Chevy), especially the constant velocity joints.
They are loading to max GCWR. Gross Combined Weight Rating. This means the trailer weight plus the truck weight. It is common knowledge that the chevrolet is several hundred pounds less. It is possible that the chevrolet had a heavier trailer and still had a lower GCWR. They should just state actual trailer weight, which it sounds like they purposely avoid. Good to see tests like this, but would trust 3rd party results more.
Ford kicks ass again!! GM still can't make a good truck even with all the government money handed to them... It will be another 20 years till they pay back all that money.
If you want facts go to PickupTrucks (Chevy vs. Ford in Heavy-Duty Rumble in the Rockies).... THEN go to Dieselpowermag (Diesel Power's King Of The Hill Shootout: Final Results!)..... THEN look at Motor Trend's Truck of the year article.... Hard to argue with COLD HARD FACTS!
If you want facts go to PickupTrucks website (Chevy vs. Ford in Heavy-Duty Rumble in the Rockies).... THEN go to Dieselpowermag website (Diesel Power's King Of The Hill Shootout: Final Results!)..... THEN look at Motor Trend's Truck of the year article.... Hard to argue with COLD HARD FACTS!
If you want facts go to PickupTrucks (Chevy vs. Ford in Heavy-Duty Rumble in the Rockies).... THEN go to Dieselpowermag (Diesel Power's King Of The Hill Shootout: Final Results!)..... THEN look at Motor Trend's Truck of the year article.... Hard to argue with COLD HARD FACTS!
@1vdn992 That's popular mechanics.. they rate everything, Diesel Power Mag and Pickuptucks don't!!!!!!! And i read that article, ford barely squeaked by... unlike the Chevy THROTTLED the ford in the other two.
"The new Super Duty may not be the quickest here, but a truck is more than just a motor. And it was the Ford's unmatched mix of comfort and smart, work-friendly features that helped it edge out the competition. There's a reason Ford owns 50 percent of the heavy-duty truck market. "
@jritch85 This test you speak of is a "speed test" and the trucks were not "equal" as much think. If you think so, then you don't know much about vehicles. Check the transmission gearing and let me know what you come up with. A more equal test would have been a Ford with a 3.31 final ratio with the transmission gearing used. If interested I have the specs you can read to further help you on this.Ford is still a better quality truck all around, more power, more towing, and more than a truck.
@04redmach1 my quiestion here is ho cares about speed, is a truck made to carry, haul n tow, nahh, fuel economy yes, i drive a 16.0l cummins, n i know better then anyone a truck is not for speed
@jritch85 funny because chevy did all of those test and won toty because it had a softer ride. Popular mechanics chosen Ford, and they were 100% independent. Chew on that.
Sigh, if only Ford would put something like an Allison behind their engine like GM did, that would be awesome. I've heard a lot of good about the new 6.7 though, time will be the ultimate teller. Both great trucks however, love GM and Ford trucks.
I think both are great trucks, I'm actually a Ford guy but I don't think it's fair in that the Chevy was running 3:73 gears and the Ford had 3:31, to keep it fair I'd like to see them both run 3:73's.
I'm not hating on Ford I just think it's funny how they beat Chevy or Dodge by like 2 miles per gallon or 5 more horsepower and then pat themselves on the back for having "best in class" it's retarded. All trucks have their issues. Dodge transmissions. Chevy general working parts have problems but they build good engines. Ford poor fuel economy(I say that because most people are not going to go buy a brandnew truck and all Ford trucks suck gas like none other) and they have some other issues.
I love ford and I don't quite understand why all the people that hate it always watch the videos and leave nasty comments that 9 times out of 10 are completely wrong.I guess the were just raised to be jackasses about every little thing that beats them.
You search on youtube! Rumble in the Rockies Part 1: The Downhill Challenge Rumble in the Rockies and Part 2: The Downhill Challenge. 2011 Ford F-350 vs Chevy Silverado 3500: Exhaust brake testing at 11,000 feet hauling 18,900 pounds
Gm wont do this test, instead they make a commercial bashing the new powerstroke for being new, becuase GM cant make their new duramax win fairly. Ford wins, and has been winning for 33 years, almost 34 now.
@FordNissanChevy ur a idiot ford had to change shit on the powercrap just too keep up with chevy and even deisel power mag says the chevy walks away the king so keep buying whatever u want i dont care ima buy a duramax
@justanamelol6969 Ford installed a tune on the powerstroke becuase they knew GM with their unlimited funding from the government would make the duramax more powerful than the new powerstroke, so right now GM is in the long process of designing a new diesel because they cannot match the new powerstroke, at all, they may be able to boost the power again, but it wont be emissions legal or have better MPG than the new Powerstroke. Ford just fucked with GM in otherwords
@FordNissanChevy ok let look at this, this way u say that chevy is finally designing a new diesel for the first time in 9 years (6.6 duramax started in 01) how many has ford been threw till then hmmm lets count 7.3,6.0,6.4 and now the new 6.7 looks like ford finally could actually beat the dmax after 4 different motor and 9 years sorry to break it to you ford is falling behind and in a short while dmax will be back on top enjoy your lil victory for now!
@justanamelol6969 7.3 killed by emissions, 6.0 was devastated by emissions, 6.4 had hardships with emissions, problem with those engines is that they were built for large commercial trucks, when they were put into smaller trucks they had to abide by the smaller truck emissions, which killed them in some way. Fact of the matter is that all of them are better than the 6.6 as long as you kept the emissions off of them, but that would be breaking the law.
@FordNissanChevy well everything is true except the 6.0 was the biggest lump of scape ever put out into the market but i have had fun arguing with u this youtube thing always gets personal lol but i have wasted enof of my time on ford today like i said earlyer u can buy your ford but i am going to stick with my duramax nothing any of u can say will make me switch i just love myn and its only a 05
@justanamelol6969 Hey if like chevy no problem, i just hate their new shit and their recent bullshit, and the 6.0 is very reliable in Buses and other large trucks, just becuase of less emissions.
@FordNissanChevy if you think the 6.0 was better than the duramax you are the most mislead person on earth. if you do head studs, exhaust, egr delete and pour a fuck ton of money into it then yeah it's okay, put that into a duramax and then compare and contrast. oh and gm paid their debts off if you haven't been keeping up with the news. and it was ford that had to go back and reprogram their computers because THEY couldn't match gm, and forget about ford matching the reliability of a duramax
@ben38619 6.0's in larger vehicles are very reliable. 6.0's problem is emissions. Duramax was designed for smaller pickups, navistar developed the 6.0 for large commercial vehicles. Emissions are different. The EGR burned the gaskets up, made the engine run really hot which therefore destroyed the motor. And Chevy programed their new duramax to put out better numbers, then ford did it to beat the new duramax numbers.
@FordNissanChevy Yes they were reliable in larger fleet vehicles, but why would they carry all of that over to an engine that operates completely different emissions-wise? Same argument as "america's shitty fuel killed the 6.0s" no.. I run that shit in my Duramax just fine, it's Ford's shitty engineering that killed the 6.0.
@ben38619 Thats why it broke down alot, it was choked down by emissions. And it wasnt ford's fault, Navistar is to blame, after all it was Navistar who built and supplied them.
@kargmeister1337 Yes I have. It's just the same as the 6.7 powerjokes. They "torture tested" them and they STILL turned out to be a piece of shit. Sorry GM doesn't post every single thing they do on youtube. Trust me, they go to all of the same parameters as Ford does, Ford's testing sure as hell doesn't back up their results though.
@ben38619 I don't know how a 400hp 800lb/ft of torque truck can be a piece of shit. they didn't rush this engine out like some of the others, they spent some good time on it and its payed off. I've already seen around 25-30 of these superdutys just in my area within months so people do think their good and they are. unless you've seen it or driven them you know nothing about them. your right about videos. videos can always be different from the real thing, but true for chevy and dodge.
@kargmeister1337 I have driven them and I wasn't impressed at all. The new Duramax was 10x better. And this 400/800 is bullshit. Because If the difference maker for you is a whole 3 horsepower, you're an idiot. Get on the Ford Powerstroke forums and look under 6.7 powerstroke problems, the stories are very entertaining, not to mention those are pretty much all recurring problems. Look at jritch85 comment at the top and that will answer your question. Ford has ZERO years experience with diesels.
@ben38619 of course your going to say its better because you want to find every little thing that is different in the ford and say its junk because its not the same. If i had a shit ton of money, I would by both trucks, one for me and one for you. have us both test them and then switch trucks. that seems like it would be the most reasonable way to test something. that way we both drive both trucks and get a feel of how they drive.
@kargmeister1337 Woohoo! :D that made me smile that you said you'd buy me a new pickup! But don't you think that one of the competing manufacturers conducting the test is pretty biased? That's why I encourage you to look at the Diesel Power Mag and PickupTrucks com tests. Third party, unbiased sources in real world applications. I like how smooth the Chevy rides and how reliable they've been, even after being judged by the cover (i.e. IFS, which performs wonderfully). (continued)
@kargmeister1337 (cont) Dont get me wrong, Ford has a couple features that I like but they wouldn't be worth financing one for. This fuel economy test is extremely stupid, I mean, two very different axle ratios? The Chevy is geared for towing, hence the reason it won in all third party tests. Plus, Ford's reliability isn't very good at all. I understand fuel economy is important in a fleet, but if it's not geared for towing? Forget it. Down time with warranty claims kills a company more (cont)
@kargmeister1337 (cont) than a couple MPG difference. Ford offers a 3.73 too I believe. I mean the Ford has more maximum towing, but how well can Ford pull it's maximum payload compared to the Chevy? Once again, good reason to look at the two third party tests. I mean it lost, big time. I also hate feeling like I just came out of spine surgery after riding in the Ford.
@WillDaBeast696969 Thank you sir! Yes that is the main reason it rides like shit. It's all unsprung weight is the reason. Light duty pickups don't need a solid front axle, really. GM's IFS is very, very reliable and has much less maintenance costs than the Dodge's pile of shit front end. Have you ridden in the new LML Duramax? They ride like a Cadillac with the new hydraulic cab mounts.
@ben38619 very welcome my man! yeah dude the lml is soooo sick! it has a ridiculous amount of power that you can feel when u put the foot to the floor unlike the ford. sure the fords got more hp but u cant tell... my buddy just bought the new f350 and his turbo went out 3 times in the past 15,000 miles HAHA! he sold it and got the new lml. he said best buy hes ever made
@WillDaBeast696969 Haha doesn't surprise me! That new turbo system looks innovative and all, but it looks problematic as hell, now I know it is! haha I mean the 6.4 was awesome, they put out good power, but they needed twin turbos to hang with the Chev? Lame! The LML is amazing my Dad just bought one. I showed it to him when I was working at a dealer, this was right after he bought an LMM, and he ended up buying it by the end of the week he loved it so much. Totally not like him at all either.
@ben38619 thats bad ass dude! my dad just bought the new ford edge. omg its a PIECE OF SHIT!! the electronics in it are so complex that they have failed... sync blows donkey dick haha and also he had to replace a piston due to a bent rod..GAY! might i add he only has 9000 miles on it
Yeah right, they are not telling you what really happened behind the scenes. The chevy driver was abusing the throttle while the ford was coasting it. Put the ford on a flex bed test and see what happens! It's a pos " CHEVY RUNS DEEP" . We have the corvette the flagship of american sport and the chevy silverado 2011 motor trend truck of the year
MrRedstar6 4 days ago
ford no sirve pues pasa mas tiempo en el taller q trabajando y ford da muy poca garantia!!!!!
Grifiermo230 4 days ago
I seriously don't like the looks of the nose on the newer superduties
UBConquered 1 week ago
i dont even need a truck but i want one any way
sahiel5 2 weeks ago
ford run test = ford will win
gm run test = gm will win
Complete bullshit.
limeimac97776 3 weeks ago
@limeimac97776 true lol
DiGBicK25 3 weeks ago
@limeimac97776 yeah, when i saw mike rowhe, i knew this was going to be fake
thelastgood1forever 3 weeks ago
lol, of course ford will win, its "ford trucks" yt account hahahahaha, check out the king of the hill challenge. gtfo lmao they gotta put all the high perf tunes on it to compete.
024x4lb7 4 weeks ago
GM hired an independent test lab. Ford did their own testing.
pyrokid369 1 month ago
@pyrokid369 lol no they didn't and the actual independent tests show Ford beating gm
HottestGuyOnInternet 1 week ago
Weird, in the real world its different for us haulers, usually we are always waiting for the ford to fill up at the station.... -.-
RacingRocks12 1 month ago
Yeah, yeah, yeah...thats why the silverado 2500 hd won truck of the year in 2011.
imnottellinguwhy 1 month ago
@390merc65 to be honest i dont care or mind where anything is made, as long as it is the best ima have it... im not gonna buy less reliable truck just because the engine was designed in "america"... for all you know ot could be a jap who designed it aswell. but im not going to aegue over that. buy whatever you feel most comfotable driving. i use to be a 7.3 fan until they jumped to the 6.0... now im nothing but 6.6, cheers man
Duramost 1 month ago
they made some "minor" changes... like going from a 6.4 to a 6.7... Dmax has been around for more than a decade with the same 6.6 engine.. thats guys stupid... but then again hes getting paid to advertise ford
Duramost 1 month ago
@Duramost the dmax might be around longer but you can thank the japanese manufacture [isuzu] who built them..GM & dodge buy their diesels..ford stepped up and made their own.so at least when you buy a ford..you get a ford..not a mixed bag of parts ..remember GM's first 2 attempts at making their own diesel??..both were nothing to brag about
390merc65 1 month ago
@390merc65 The duramax was a JOINT EFFORT between gm and isuzu. They helped design it they dont sell them to GM.
pyrokid369 1 month ago
Ford's best fuel mileage claim with the new 6.7 psd is a lie,13 mpg most of the time.The new 6.7 psd is a pile of junk,Jasper came out with over 70 upgrades already.Plus it does not have the power either what I have been hearing.My father's 2011 Dodge with the cummins gets 16 to 17 MPG most of the time
wafrederick 1 month ago
i like how they used a 3.73 rear end in the chevy and a 3.31 in the ford, so STUPID!!! why cant they just compare the same setup against the same setup
MAGTRAIN 1 month ago
@MAGTRAIN Yea, I know. But hey, Chevy did the same thing in their HD to HD comparison, so I guess its fair. Thats why we perform our test in the real world, and the chev always comes out on top.
RacingRocks12 1 month ago
jaja ovbio si la silverado avanza mas rapido, claro que va a gastar mas gas jaja la lobo super lenta!!
Miguelglzshzz 2 months ago
notice how dodge is never in these tests? maybe because they are the best
JoeParrish05 2 months ago
@JoeParrish05 they are good but you can not argue about how bad on mpg they get.
yourmomgotpwned 2 months ago
No it dosent motortrend dyno tuned it and for got more horses down and just really close on torque
alimaknojia564 2 months ago
fords the best!!!
03Bmonaweck 2 months ago 5
of coures ford is going to win there making the video and they have less power
Kevinsstuffful 2 months ago
@Kevinsstuffful no ford has more power.
JonTheOG 2 months ago
@JonTheOG ya but chevy puts more to the ground
Kevinsstuffful 2 months ago
@JonTheOG ya but chevy puts more to the ground
Kevinsstuffful 2 months ago
ford is not first on raceday
Jdomako 2 months ago
i love my 2011 2500hd
MrRglands 3 months ago
I'm not sure which is better... Dodge Cummins or Ford Superduty
Maximum777Payne 3 months ago
@Maximum777Payne superduty
chrisrider28 2 months ago
@chrisrider28 What does the Super Duty do better than the Dodge Cummins? I am asking this as a legitimate question, so please don't bite my head off.
Maximum777Payne 2 months ago
@Maximum777Payne idk man that odd. the inline should have better msg then a v8
bigmoney9111 2 months ago
Listen all you ford hating fucks. Everyone has there own opinion on trucks! If you don't like the video why even fucking watch it? You just make yourself look stupid complaining about how each truck match's up. Just shut the fuck up and don't watch it. As simple as that you fucks
snoopgarza 3 months ago
that's lame that ford didn't use a truck with the same axle ratio...of course it won...they could've at least used the 3.55
thatschill777 3 months ago 2
fords can lick my butt
MrChevyman555 4 months ago
What about Toyota?
untaker5455 4 months ago
porque no sirven xD
TheRamon001 4 months ago
@untaker5455 toyota doesn't make a truck that competes with these
flynmid 3 months ago
@untaker5455 toyota`s are not trucks and not american!
nesson36 3 months ago
Gm is high prices in 2007 my mom tried to buy a new 2007 gmc Yukon Denali & we knew somebody who worked at the gmc dealer & we got a discount. The lease price came out to 951 a month then we went to ford to look at the 2007 ford expedition Eddie Bauer & we got one for 539. & the ford keeps it's value for along time the gmc would be worth 20,000 the ford is worth 30,000
MegaBlackberryuser 6 months ago
You all now this video was made by ford and the rumble in the rockies was made chevy. you dumbass's. all of this is hype. just go to the fleet manager at ford and you can get the best deals on work trucks. plain as they get. they sell for less in quanities. companies buy cheap. bottom line. ford sells the crap out of them. by the way ford did a good job with the new line of engines in 2011. i hope they got the demons out of them. hope they dropped the company that makes the wiring harnesses.
electricfeel007 8 months ago
vanguardbh1 fuck u becuase u wanted a rematch u got it and ford is way better than chevy and dodge
ThePuma2345 9 months ago
vanguardbh1 f u ur just mad because ford is a way better than chevy and dodge
ThePuma2345 9 months ago
These tests are such bs because ford puts the best gears in the truck for the test! Have everything in both trucks the exact same ( including gears)... Chevy will win every time.. Go check out the rumble in the Rockies for the truth!!
vanguardbh1 9 months ago
U mad chevy fans?
You asked for a rematch, you got a rematch.
Sausageonthegrill 9 months ago
I don't believe any test where the head company, Ford in this case does their own testing. Sorry independents only.
chadsteele1 9 months ago
@chadsteele1
But Chevy paid that compan to do those test
monkeysfilms1000 9 months ago
@chadsteele1 apparently you haven't seen the ford commercials that this guy he does. nothing is free
electricfeel007 8 months ago
May I ask y when chevy does a test like this chevy wins and ford does the same tests ford wins mmmmmmmmmm both companies wouldn't be paying the test ppl so there heavy duty trucks would win would they????? Very strange
noahmiller6 9 months ago
GM sucks
dimitrya1234 10 months ago
I usually like both chevys and fords evenly but ford is got ALOT going on with their trucks and GM seems to hardly give a crap about theirs from what I always read. GM knows this and concentrate more on their other lines like SUVs and cars.
mattjack4x4 10 months ago
Yeah the Silverado lost because it was going faster. It also is a Ford commercial. Their not going to let their enemy win. Duh.
DustyDan5 10 months ago
@DustyDan5
Nice try, but the trucks were in concery with each other the whole time. And of course the Chevy adds aint gonna let Ford when, even though they use the wrong gearing ratios, final drives, are even but the gearing PER-gear was lower for the Super Duty.
SecularTechnology 10 months ago
it is kind of as from ford...nice job ford!
aeolus0079 11 months ago
see heres the thing, you've got Ford techs running this test whereas when the gm trucks were proven better you editors from magazines doing the testing in an un-biased manner. Ford cant face the fact that they lost. Fuck ford.
mellenjuice 11 months ago
@mellenjuice
GM can't even test fairly, they use uneven axel ratios PER-GEAR, and try to play it off like the final drive is waht determines the correct gearing. Chevy fuckers can't face the fact they make an inferior product FUCK GM. Just as many magazines ranked the Super Duty better dup shit. Popular Mechanics, Field and Stream, Diesel Magazines. Fuck you.
SecularTechnology 10 months ago
@SecularTechnology They used the exact same gear ratio - 3.73 You fucking idiot. Why dont educate yourself before you come back with some bullshit reply. Field and Stream? If your gonna take their opinion you are too fucking stupid to talk to. How about this- Chevy HD truck of the year rated by Diesel Power, Motortrend, Pick-up Truck magazine. Your list is Fuckin weak. The fact that there are uneven gears per-gear is fords fuckin problem. FORD GOT FUCKING RAPED YOU FAGGOT.
mellenjuice 10 months ago
@mellenjuice
Hey....are you saying SECULARTECHNOLOGY got something wrong...huh??? (LOL ROTFL)
ferroxian 9 months ago
@ferroxian hahahahaha
mellenjuice 9 months ago
@mellenjuice
Wow! u r throwing a fit over a company u dont even own or work for.
monkeysfilms1000 9 months ago
@monkeysfilms1000 because... ford sucks bro. The mustang is the only thing ford i would ever own.
mellenjuice 9 months ago
@mellenjuice
I think ford makes great cars and trucks and chevy makes equally good cars but their trucks are a little bit lower. But any AMERICAN truck is good in my book and im probaly going to get a chevy 2500 duramax because its cheaper than a super duty and it would be my first car.
monkeysfilms1000 9 months ago
@monkeysfilms1000
O and also saw your "One" intro on the guitar and your pretty good. the songs too hard for me since i haven't been playing long
monkeysfilms1000 9 months ago
@monkeysfilms1000 there definately not lower my friend, higher, by a lot. Just trust me and get an 01-03 they got extremely good mileage
mellenjuice 9 months ago
@monkeysfilms1000 go USA. it is going to suck to be living in a communist country soon
electricfeel007 8 months ago 4
@mellenjuice what out the exhaust leaks on the V6
electricfeel007 8 months ago
The test is run by Ford so its going to be biased....
kiba22222 11 months ago
I would take a Ford any day. Fuck GM!
MrTruckguy420 11 months ago
At the end of the day Mike from dirty jobs is reppin ford. Weak.
Bankzd66 11 months ago
the bad thing bout these vids that fordtrucks has it that its all bias, come on now they are testing their truck on tests they use, not tests GM or dodge uses
INSANEFREAK1 11 months ago
The new Ford's are definitely a good truck. I don't believe the FORD will get any better diesel mileage when it comes down to it though. In this video, the Ford is using a 3:31 ratio which accounts for lower RPM's. Chevy is using 3:73. I looked up the gear ratios in the new transmissions and the ratios are similar between FORD's new 6R140 trans and the current Allison 1000 in the Duramax. It's hard to beat a Duramax/Allison combo. Ford made claims like this with the 6.4L.
jmmiller1986 1 year ago
Question: What are among the best-selling vehicles in North America? Answer: Ford F-Series. I'm not suggesting the GM HDs are inferior. I'm a Ford truck guy but will be the first to acknowledge GM makes an excellent HD truck, without question! But in the court of public opinion, what really counts are what consumers buy - and what they have bought more historically are F-Series trucks.
lariatfx 1 year ago
@ben38619 aaaahhhhhahahahaha!!!! That's hilarious! Yet probably so true!
WillDaBeast696969 1 year ago
You know wat i think is BS about this vid? They made the dmax haul ass with the load and of course your gonnna go thru fuel quicker and not have good economy, the dmax must have been doing 60-70 mph while the stroker was probably doing 50-55 which made it not go thru so much fuel and made it get better mpg. I bet if the were both going the same speed on cruise control the dmax cud have possibley won.
160speedy 1 year ago
EVERY DAMN MAKE OF TRUCKS OR CARS OR MOTOCYCLES AND EVERY SINGLE COMPANY IN THE WORLD DO THIS! STFU OR JUST DONT WATCH IT! MY GOD, THE WHINERS ON YOUTUBE! yall are the jokes!!
Mathewswitchback7 1 year ago
I would like to know how each was driven. Everything else was pretty precise but driver could make huge changes in fuel economy too.
Herps85 1 year ago
When ford face real test they lose a lot of credibility a chevrolet, it is test are arranged like those or dirty job guys makes us believe that ford are the best around, sorry guys of ford they will you be
outlandermaxxt800 1 year ago
YEA RIGGED VIDEO TO BAD THEY COULDNT COMPARE TO ANYTHING ELSE THEN FUEL MILAGE LIKE EVERYBODY SAID FEB DIESAL POWER MAG TESTED FAIR BY REAAL TEST CREW NO FAKE FORD BULLSHIT LAST YEAR YEA FORD HAD A BETTER TRUCK THIS YEAR CHEVY ATE YOUR POWERJOKE ALIVE AND FORD CANT STAND IT DURAMAX POWERSTROKE KILLA
cody10905 1 year ago
Diesel Power magazine!!! February 2011 issue!!! Read it !
MrStaybrown 1 year ago
i oudnt say it better!
LAUCAINC 1 year ago
i bet the guy driving the chevy was way fatter than the one in ford thats why the chevy lost
orangesilverado01 1 year ago
bullshittttt chevy started first chevy>ford
blaboy2012 1 year ago
WOW ... Ford gets slightly better MPG.. LOL But what about EVERYTHING ELSE? Chevy SIlverado has MORE power, MORE towing, BETTER warranty, BETTER build quality. LONGER lasting MORE reliable.. I guess when your the BEST ford has to try something. Next they will have a video saying "Our truck is better because our wheels are prettier" COME ON!!! WOW ford this was LAME! Why spend thousands of dollars on BS!? I will take a Silverado over a ford ANYDAY ANNNNYYYDAYYYYYYYYYYY
ValerieSmith2020 1 year ago
@ValerieSmith2020 Actually, the Ford has more power, more towing, and doesn't need a warranty because you will not have to use it. It is not only a truck but a good QUALITY ride.
Guess you are proud of that Isuzu engine? Ever seen what an allison looks like after it explodes lol. Pretty nasty. ONLY reaosn they got truck of the year was due to tax payer money paying off motor trend. Government can do what it wants. I'm an american, I buy american and support a true american company.
04redmach1 1 year ago
@ValerieSmith2020 duracrap from izusu, keep sending money to china so economy sucks more
LAUCAINC 1 year ago
duracrap from izusu, keep sending money to china so economy sucks more, brand new redesing chevy for 2009 ohh snap wait lets save n just use old frames, put blocks n done, ups, the drive shafts snap, its ok is a chevy
LAUCAINC 1 year ago
where can i get a jacket of ford.
BpJN168 1 year ago
Plus they took off at the same time and the Chevrolet is way ahead when it pulls over so the Ford driver was obviously way easier on the throttle. Ford is so damn full of shit it makes me sick
MrDuramax5 1 year ago
@MrDuramax5 duracrap izusu motor, cmon man, lets stay american here powerstroke made by international, as those big semis on the road, they know what is ment to work
LAUCAINC 1 year ago
@LAUCAINC Actually, the Powerstroke is now made by Ford, but It's still made here In the Good Ol' USA, now if Ford put CAT's in the Super Duty that will be something
VFA103JollyRogers 1 year ago
Fuck Ford!!! Diesel power clearly said the Chevrolet does better. This lying gray haired motherfucker is full of it. My friend n his brother have 2011 Ford n Chevy. The duramax beats it by far in every way possible
MrDuramax5 1 year ago
3.73 v.s 3.31? yeah that's fair.
creamyfilling102 1 year ago
they make the ford win its there job
fel2193zep 1 year ago
@fel2193zep haha exactly this is the first i have heard of the super duty being best in class, I would much rather drive the chev. Have had to many problems with a power stroke
Chad002002 1 year ago
If you really worried about gas mileage you probably cant afford to buy a big truck like either one of these anyway! Go get a small import car if you worried about gas mileage and stay outta the way of the BIG BOY TRUCKS!
RBanes1 1 year ago
built ford crap by dirty wet backs lol
chevydiesel350015 1 year ago
still chevy looks way better ford is just getting a huuuuuuuugeee headlights and huuuge grill and chevy is just perfect just a celan look for a heavy duty truck
elasdeases1 1 year ago
331 rear in the ford thats not even real world almost all come with a 355 the 331 was just to lower the reves and win at this test but use that same truck to tow a heavy load and it wont even get out of its own way!!!!!!!!!! this test is such BS
kemp3651 1 year ago
6.7 is made in Chihuahua, Mexico. Duramax-AMERICA.
Do you ford boys have showers, cuz if you do then you can wash the sand out of your vagi*ns!
jritch85 1 year ago
I bet the guy in the chevy had his foot down the whole time
fishermen16 1 year ago
hey its bush ... lol
aboddwardak 1 year ago
Everyone's gotta keep in mind that videos like these are partisan, and in this case, it puts Ford in the best possible light. So you really don't have anything credible here. Having said that, when it comes to heavy duty (4wd) pickup trucks, I'll take a Ford (or even a Dodge, to a lesser extent) any-day over a Chevy - Main Reason: Front Suspension. There's just so much more that can go wrong with an independent front suspension (used on the Chevy), especially the constant velocity joints.
zoomping1 1 year ago
why the hell does it have a 3.31 axle ratio??? why not a 4.10, its a truck not a cadillac. But i would still take the superduty over any gm or dodge
123abcpa 1 year ago
They are loading to max GCWR. Gross Combined Weight Rating. This means the trailer weight plus the truck weight. It is common knowledge that the chevrolet is several hundred pounds less. It is possible that the chevrolet had a heavier trailer and still had a lower GCWR. They should just state actual trailer weight, which it sounds like they purposely avoid. Good to see tests like this, but would trust 3rd party results more.
wellmane 1 year ago
Ford kicks ass again!! GM still can't make a good truck even with all the government money handed to them... It will be another 20 years till they pay back all that money.
eelgrass76 1 year ago
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If you want facts go to PickupTrucks (Chevy vs. Ford in Heavy-Duty Rumble in the Rockies).... THEN go to Dieselpowermag (Diesel Power's King Of The Hill Shootout: Final Results!)..... THEN look at Motor Trend's Truck of the year article.... Hard to argue with COLD HARD FACTS!
jritch85 1 year ago
Like if you watched this for 15NX on Nexon.
GlitchScape 1 year ago
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If you want facts go to PickupTrucks website (Chevy vs. Ford in Heavy-Duty Rumble in the Rockies).... THEN go to Dieselpowermag website (Diesel Power's King Of The Hill Shootout: Final Results!)..... THEN look at Motor Trend's Truck of the year article.... Hard to argue with COLD HARD FACTS!
jritch85 1 year ago
If you want facts go to PickupTrucks (Chevy vs. Ford in Heavy-Duty Rumble in the Rockies).... THEN go to Dieselpowermag (Diesel Power's King Of The Hill Shootout: Final Results!)..... THEN look at Motor Trend's Truck of the year article.... Hard to argue with COLD HARD FACTS!
jritch85 1 year ago 4
@jritch85 In last months issue of Popular Mechanics, The Big 3 Super Duties, Ford, Dodge, and Chevy were compared and they rated the Ford number 1
1vdn992 1 year ago
@1vdn992 That's popular mechanics.. they rate everything, Diesel Power Mag and Pickuptucks don't!!!!!!! And i read that article, ford barely squeaked by... unlike the Chevy THROTTLED the ford in the other two.
jritch85 1 year ago
@jritch85 Yeah right, throttled it empty, that's a big plus when you're racing super duty's.
1vdn992 1 year ago
@1vdn992 What?
jritch85 1 year ago
@1vdn992 lol so one out of four rate ford as good haha
chevydiesel350015 1 year ago
@jritch85 popular mechanics...:
"The new Super Duty may not be the quickest here, but a truck is more than just a motor. And it was the Ford's unmatched mix of comfort and smart, work-friendly features that helped it edge out the competition. There's a reason Ford owns 50 percent of the heavy-duty truck market. "
ShadowCBG 1 year ago 13
@jritch85 This test you speak of is a "speed test" and the trucks were not "equal" as much think. If you think so, then you don't know much about vehicles. Check the transmission gearing and let me know what you come up with. A more equal test would have been a Ford with a 3.31 final ratio with the transmission gearing used. If interested I have the specs you can read to further help you on this.Ford is still a better quality truck all around, more power, more towing, and more than a truck.
04redmach1 1 year ago
@04redmach1 my quiestion here is ho cares about speed, is a truck made to carry, haul n tow, nahh, fuel economy yes, i drive a 16.0l cummins, n i know better then anyone a truck is not for speed
LAUCAINC 1 year ago
@jritch85 funny because chevy did all of those test and won toty because it had a softer ride. Popular mechanics chosen Ford, and they were 100% independent. Chew on that.
FordNissanChevy 1 year ago
@jritch85
FIELD AND STREAM. (HUNTING MAGazine)
"Extensive and rigorous testing proves the Ford Super Duty to be without a doub the tougest and hardest working pickup on the market.
COLD HARD FASTS!!!
The Rubme in the Rockies was a pile of shit GM test and paid Diesel Power and Pickup trucks are already GM loving dick suckers
SecularTechnology 11 months ago
some things never change like
FOUND
ON
ROADSIDE
DEAD
johnson200gw 1 year ago
@johnson200gw
Constantly Having Every Vehicle Recalled Over Lousy Engineering Techniques.
Sigh.... It never changes.
SecularTechnology 1 year ago
johnson200gw 1 year ago
@johnson200gw
Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
Car Has Extensive Valve Rattle On Long Extended Trips
Cheap, Hardly Efficient, Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time
Cheap Hot-Running Engines, Very Rusted Out, Lose Every Time
Chews Heads, Eats Valves, Runs ONly Low ET's
I have more where that fucking shit came from.
Some things never fucking change!!!!!!
SecularTechnology 1 year ago
@SecularTechnology Dude give me some of those. They are funny! please.
19ranger90 1 year ago
@19ranger90
They are acronyms.
SecularTechnology 1 year ago
@SecularTechnology I know they are acronymns but I was too lazy to spell acronyms at the time.
19ranger90 1 year ago
Sigh, if only Ford would put something like an Allison behind their engine like GM did, that would be awesome. I've heard a lot of good about the new 6.7 though, time will be the ultimate teller. Both great trucks however, love GM and Ford trucks.
DanielJaegerFilms 1 year ago
chevys come hand in hand with sucking cock when it comes to trucks.
superchargewhine 1 year ago
@superchargewhine lol. You mean Toyota.
benchn280 1 year ago
@benchn280 don't forget Nissan.
superchargewhine 1 year ago
fake ass shit
mtz713 1 year ago
EAT THAT 800 LB-FT!
SecularTechnology 1 year ago
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SecularTechnology 1 year ago
I think both are great trucks, I'm actually a Ford guy but I don't think it's fair in that the Chevy was running 3:73 gears and the Ford had 3:31, to keep it fair I'd like to see them both run 3:73's.
GfCast39 1 year ago
ford the best!!!!
chivassuperchivas1 1 year ago
I'm not hating on Ford I just think it's funny how they beat Chevy or Dodge by like 2 miles per gallon or 5 more horsepower and then pat themselves on the back for having "best in class" it's retarded. All trucks have their issues. Dodge transmissions. Chevy general working parts have problems but they build good engines. Ford poor fuel economy(I say that because most people are not going to go buy a brandnew truck and all Ford trucks suck gas like none other) and they have some other issues.
nathanial41 1 year ago
I love ford and I don't quite understand why all the people that hate it always watch the videos and leave nasty comments that 9 times out of 10 are completely wrong.I guess the were just raised to be jackasses about every little thing that beats them.
rustycnly 1 year ago
@rustycnly i didt mean to vote down, i clicked to fast but yu are rite they jus have to leave nasty comments
Fordman903 1 year ago
You search on youtube! Rumble in the Rockies Part 1: The Downhill Challenge Rumble in the Rockies and Part 2: The Downhill Challenge. 2011 Ford F-350 vs Chevy Silverado 3500: Exhaust brake testing at 11,000 feet hauling 18,900 pounds
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apache4541 1 year ago
did the chevy start first or was he going faster? chevy comes with an allison ;)
blaydeman 1 year ago 3
@blaydeman its an oval moron
fmxkyle 1 year ago
Gm wont do this test, instead they make a commercial bashing the new powerstroke for being new, becuase GM cant make their new duramax win fairly. Ford wins, and has been winning for 33 years, almost 34 now.
FordNissanChevy 1 year ago
@FordNissanChevy hell yeah
PRO50MUSTANGS 1 year ago
@FordNissanChevy ur a idiot ford had to change shit on the powercrap just too keep up with chevy and even deisel power mag says the chevy walks away the king so keep buying whatever u want i dont care ima buy a duramax
justanamelol6969 1 year ago
@justanamelol6969 Ford installed a tune on the powerstroke becuase they knew GM with their unlimited funding from the government would make the duramax more powerful than the new powerstroke, so right now GM is in the long process of designing a new diesel because they cannot match the new powerstroke, at all, they may be able to boost the power again, but it wont be emissions legal or have better MPG than the new Powerstroke. Ford just fucked with GM in otherwords
FordNissanChevy 1 year ago
@FordNissanChevy ok let look at this, this way u say that chevy is finally designing a new diesel for the first time in 9 years (6.6 duramax started in 01) how many has ford been threw till then hmmm lets count 7.3,6.0,6.4 and now the new 6.7 looks like ford finally could actually beat the dmax after 4 different motor and 9 years sorry to break it to you ford is falling behind and in a short while dmax will be back on top enjoy your lil victory for now!
justanamelol6969 1 year ago
@justanamelol6969 7.3 killed by emissions, 6.0 was devastated by emissions, 6.4 had hardships with emissions, problem with those engines is that they were built for large commercial trucks, when they were put into smaller trucks they had to abide by the smaller truck emissions, which killed them in some way. Fact of the matter is that all of them are better than the 6.6 as long as you kept the emissions off of them, but that would be breaking the law.
FordNissanChevy 1 year ago
@FordNissanChevy well everything is true except the 6.0 was the biggest lump of scape ever put out into the market but i have had fun arguing with u this youtube thing always gets personal lol but i have wasted enof of my time on ford today like i said earlyer u can buy your ford but i am going to stick with my duramax nothing any of u can say will make me switch i just love myn and its only a 05
justanamelol6969 1 year ago
@justanamelol6969 Hey if like chevy no problem, i just hate their new shit and their recent bullshit, and the 6.0 is very reliable in Buses and other large trucks, just becuase of less emissions.
FordNissanChevy 1 year ago
@FordNissanChevy if you think the 6.0 was better than the duramax you are the most mislead person on earth. if you do head studs, exhaust, egr delete and pour a fuck ton of money into it then yeah it's okay, put that into a duramax and then compare and contrast. oh and gm paid their debts off if you haven't been keeping up with the news. and it was ford that had to go back and reprogram their computers because THEY couldn't match gm, and forget about ford matching the reliability of a duramax
ben38619 1 year ago
@ben38619 6.0's in larger vehicles are very reliable. 6.0's problem is emissions. Duramax was designed for smaller pickups, navistar developed the 6.0 for large commercial vehicles. Emissions are different. The EGR burned the gaskets up, made the engine run really hot which therefore destroyed the motor. And Chevy programed their new duramax to put out better numbers, then ford did it to beat the new duramax numbers.
FordNissanChevy 1 year ago
@FordNissanChevy Yes they were reliable in larger fleet vehicles, but why would they carry all of that over to an engine that operates completely different emissions-wise? Same argument as "america's shitty fuel killed the 6.0s" no.. I run that shit in my Duramax just fine, it's Ford's shitty engineering that killed the 6.0.
ben38619 1 year ago
@ben38619 Thats why it broke down alot, it was choked down by emissions. And it wasnt ford's fault, Navistar is to blame, after all it was Navistar who built and supplied them.
FordNissanChevy 1 year ago
@ben38619 have you watched the torture test for ecoboost. I don't see chevy doing that.
kargmeister1337 1 year ago
@kargmeister1337 Yes I have. It's just the same as the 6.7 powerjokes. They "torture tested" them and they STILL turned out to be a piece of shit. Sorry GM doesn't post every single thing they do on youtube. Trust me, they go to all of the same parameters as Ford does, Ford's testing sure as hell doesn't back up their results though.
ben38619 1 year ago
@ben38619 I don't know how a 400hp 800lb/ft of torque truck can be a piece of shit. they didn't rush this engine out like some of the others, they spent some good time on it and its payed off. I've already seen around 25-30 of these superdutys just in my area within months so people do think their good and they are. unless you've seen it or driven them you know nothing about them. your right about videos. videos can always be different from the real thing, but true for chevy and dodge.
kargmeister1337 1 year ago
@kargmeister1337 I have driven them and I wasn't impressed at all. The new Duramax was 10x better. And this 400/800 is bullshit. Because If the difference maker for you is a whole 3 horsepower, you're an idiot. Get on the Ford Powerstroke forums and look under 6.7 powerstroke problems, the stories are very entertaining, not to mention those are pretty much all recurring problems. Look at jritch85 comment at the top and that will answer your question. Ford has ZERO years experience with diesels.
ben38619 1 year ago
@ben38619 of course your going to say its better because you want to find every little thing that is different in the ford and say its junk because its not the same. If i had a shit ton of money, I would by both trucks, one for me and one for you. have us both test them and then switch trucks. that seems like it would be the most reasonable way to test something. that way we both drive both trucks and get a feel of how they drive.
kargmeister1337 1 year ago
@kargmeister1337 Woohoo! :D that made me smile that you said you'd buy me a new pickup! But don't you think that one of the competing manufacturers conducting the test is pretty biased? That's why I encourage you to look at the Diesel Power Mag and PickupTrucks com tests. Third party, unbiased sources in real world applications. I like how smooth the Chevy rides and how reliable they've been, even after being judged by the cover (i.e. IFS, which performs wonderfully). (continued)
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ben38619 1 year ago
@kargmeister1337 (cont) Dont get me wrong, Ford has a couple features that I like but they wouldn't be worth financing one for. This fuel economy test is extremely stupid, I mean, two very different axle ratios? The Chevy is geared for towing, hence the reason it won in all third party tests. Plus, Ford's reliability isn't very good at all. I understand fuel economy is important in a fleet, but if it's not geared for towing? Forget it. Down time with warranty claims kills a company more (cont)
ben38619 1 year ago
@kargmeister1337 (cont) than a couple MPG difference. Ford offers a 3.73 too I believe. I mean the Ford has more maximum towing, but how well can Ford pull it's maximum payload compared to the Chevy? Once again, good reason to look at the two third party tests. I mean it lost, big time. I also hate feeling like I just came out of spine surgery after riding in the Ford.
ben38619 1 year ago
@ben38619 hahaha well stated. but then again they got the sfa so it is guaranteed to ride shittier than the ifs in the silverado
WillDaBeast696969 1 year ago
@WillDaBeast696969 Thank you sir! Yes that is the main reason it rides like shit. It's all unsprung weight is the reason. Light duty pickups don't need a solid front axle, really. GM's IFS is very, very reliable and has much less maintenance costs than the Dodge's pile of shit front end. Have you ridden in the new LML Duramax? They ride like a Cadillac with the new hydraulic cab mounts.
ben38619 1 year ago
@ben38619 very welcome my man! yeah dude the lml is soooo sick! it has a ridiculous amount of power that you can feel when u put the foot to the floor unlike the ford. sure the fords got more hp but u cant tell... my buddy just bought the new f350 and his turbo went out 3 times in the past 15,000 miles HAHA! he sold it and got the new lml. he said best buy hes ever made
WillDaBeast696969 1 year ago
@WillDaBeast696969 Haha doesn't surprise me! That new turbo system looks innovative and all, but it looks problematic as hell, now I know it is! haha I mean the 6.4 was awesome, they put out good power, but they needed twin turbos to hang with the Chev? Lame! The LML is amazing my Dad just bought one. I showed it to him when I was working at a dealer, this was right after he bought an LMM, and he ended up buying it by the end of the week he loved it so much. Totally not like him at all either.
ben38619 1 year ago
@ben38619 thats bad ass dude! my dad just bought the new ford edge. omg its a PIECE OF SHIT!! the electronics in it are so complex that they have failed... sync blows donkey dick haha and also he had to replace a piston due to a bent rod..GAY! might i add he only has 9000 miles on it
WillDaBeast696969 1 year ago
@WillDaBeast6