Troika produced Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines which was an absolutely amazing RPG, extremely underrated and unheard of.
Unfortunately it has to be pointed out that Black Isle was greater than the sum of its employees. They may have moved en masse elsewhere but it'll never be the same.
Too bad you can only get this spell when you are near the end of the game, and you don't even need to fight the final boss too, you can reason with him or trick him to end the game.
What other game lets you talk your way out of a final boss fight?!?
@TerrorBlack Troika were Black Isle? What is it about those people and making awesome underrated games that get cut down & screwed by executives and then going out of business?
@Cunnysmythe Yeah, it is kind of a running theme, huh? Most of Black Isle left to found Troika. I know Chris Avellone, who designed Fallout 2 and Torment and wrote most of the text in the latter, ended up at Obsidian, and at least they still seem to be healthy and producing good games.
@TerrorBlack It still seems to apply, bar the going out of business thing. KOTOR 2 could have been so much more if they hadn't been rushed to finish for Christmas. It must be incredible to know Avellone in person, though. The subtle nuances in his storytelling are incredible. Growing a character through dialogue. Great stuff.
You've lived and died thousands of times. Not one of those lives could be considered happy and peaceful, I'd wager. Hell, the crazy incarnation tears his own arm off to beat you with it in some circumstances.
So yeah. "getting its shit ruined" is a good description
hmm how did you managed to get that spell that early in the game ? didnt you get it just before The Transcendent One on the top of Fortress of Regrets ?
Hmm, I dont recall the movie with the guy throwing magic into a cauldron. Don't you just get the symbol appearing on the ground and everyone else falling down?
I frickin' loved that spell and I frickin' loved that game. I never really got the chance to use it on The Transcendent One as I actually defeated him through dialogue. What other games can claim a final boss that can be defeated through reason, eh?
In fact, I know of at least two - Fallout 1 and Lionheart. (Spoilers up ahead.) And while Fallout can really be claimed to be a true RPG both combat- and dialogue-wise, so that being able to talk the Master into nuking himself is nothing strange, Lionheart is just your average Diablo-like hack'n'slash game with lots of wasted potential. Defeating the final boss with Speech isn't really Torment-specific, but it is indeed very specific in Torment.
Spells in this game are awesome. Not like in alot of other rpgs I've played where a lv10 fire spell still looks the same as a lower level fireball just slightly bigger.
Normally it takes the whole game...and you need to play with real involvement to get it, so it must be worth it...besides it is Torment, it just cannot be wrong.
Starring the Hades summon from Final Fantasy VII.
Tiars666tiamat 5 months ago
The name of the spell is actually Rune of Torment, as seen in the description. Symbol of Torment is the name of the item used.
Hattes 7 months ago
What is Planescape??
The666Disciple 7 months ago
@The666Disciple A miserable little pile of secrets.
AlllexL 1 month ago 2
Completely unreliable sources tell us that this guy is the DM.
Kizor 11 months ago 3
@Kizor he's just some guy the devs thought looked cool.
dageezerboi 2 months ago
Troika produced Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines which was an absolutely amazing RPG, extremely underrated and unheard of.
Unfortunately it has to be pointed out that Black Isle was greater than the sum of its employees. They may have moved en masse elsewhere but it'll never be the same.
Frostiken 1 year ago 3
What's the name of the music playing during this? Does it only play during this sell?
Arono1290 1 year ago
wherea did you guys find this game at `-`
Darkfire9189 2 years ago
Too bad you can only get this spell when you are near the end of the game, and you don't even need to fight the final boss too, you can reason with him or trick him to end the game.
What other game lets you talk your way out of a final boss fight?!?
TriasTheBetrayer 2 years ago
@TriasTheBetrayer
I think all the Fallout series.
OccasionalJDyo 2 years ago 2
Arcanum also offers you the option to finish the Big Bad with words instead of violence. It was made by Sierra, like the Fallout games.
MechagirlSachiko 2 years ago
@MechagirlSachiko No, it was developed by Troika, which consisted of most of the Black Isle staff, which had made Fallouts 1 and 2 and Torment.
TerrorBlack 2 years ago
Oops! My bad.
MechagirlSachiko 2 years ago
@TerrorBlack Troika were Black Isle? What is it about those people and making awesome underrated games that get cut down & screwed by executives and then going out of business?
Cunnysmythe 1 year ago
@Cunnysmythe Yeah, it is kind of a running theme, huh? Most of Black Isle left to found Troika. I know Chris Avellone, who designed Fallout 2 and Torment and wrote most of the text in the latter, ended up at Obsidian, and at least they still seem to be healthy and producing good games.
TerrorBlack 1 year ago
@TerrorBlack It still seems to apply, bar the going out of business thing. KOTOR 2 could have been so much more if they hadn't been rushed to finish for Christmas. It must be incredible to know Avellone in person, though. The subtle nuances in his storytelling are incredible. Growing a character through dialogue. Great stuff.
Cunnysmythe 1 year ago
@Cunnysmythe err, I don't know him in person, I just know he ended up at Obsidian. Sorry about the split clause. heh
TerrorBlack 1 year ago
@Cunnysmythe Some key people went to set up Troika (Anderson, Cain, Boyarsky), the bulk of employees at BI went to Obsidian.
darthbandon10 1 year ago
In a sense, Mass Effect and the first Fallout game. Realy, I don't understand why that isn't an option in more RPGs.
losethegame101 2 years ago 2
arcanum...
thorn3000 1 year ago
Best spell ever!
OH SHI--
HornedHellSatan 2 years ago
The description is really what makes it.
You've lived and died thousands of times. Not one of those lives could be considered happy and peaceful, I'd wager. Hell, the crazy incarnation tears his own arm off to beat you with it in some circumstances.
So yeah. "getting its shit ruined" is a good description
shimazu32 2 years ago
Fun Fact: According to some fansites, the person standing at the cauldron... is supposedly the Dungeon Master who's running your little adventure...
ChaosWolf1982 2 years ago 14
so FUKKEN AWESOME!
PAIN!!!!
woodwyrm 2 years ago
Imagine what that would look like if it was done with today's graphics!
THKSkywalker 2 years ago 9
hmm how did you managed to get that spell that early in the game ? didnt you get it just before The Transcendent One on the top of Fortress of Regrets ?
Mgaak 2 years ago
holy shit!
FarbrorKudde 3 years ago
Fuckin' incredible.
Zensate 3 years ago 3
HOLY FUCK
idiotspadeklaptorsk 3 years ago 3
best spell effect in any game ever.
MattTaylor1981 3 years ago 30
Hmm, I dont recall the movie with the guy throwing magic into a cauldron. Don't you just get the symbol appearing on the ground and everyone else falling down?
Must be too long since I played.
gssq 4 years ago 4
Personally id have preferred it with him just drawing the badass symbol and everything getting its shit ruined.
MattTaylor1981 3 years ago 3
I frickin' loved that spell and I frickin' loved that game. I never really got the chance to use it on The Transcendent One as I actually defeated him through dialogue. What other games can claim a final boss that can be defeated through reason, eh?
officialac 4 years ago 67
@officialac In Fallout 1 you can point out how flawed the bad guy's plan is to the point where he'll nuke himself.
slackerman811 1 year ago
@officialac
well fallout... but yeah I know what you mean:)
rrraul21 1 year ago
@officialac arcanum.
scullyy 1 year ago 3
@officialac
The same games that can claim that you can talk people out of existence by logically reasoning them into unbelieving themselves.
Luckmann 11 months ago
@officialac Fallout 1, for starters (which preceded this game). Another BI classic.
darthbandon10 10 months ago
@officialac
In fact, I know of at least two - Fallout 1 and Lionheart. (Spoilers up ahead.) And while Fallout can really be claimed to be a true RPG both combat- and dialogue-wise, so that being able to talk the Master into nuking himself is nothing strange, Lionheart is just your average Diablo-like hack'n'slash game with lots of wasted potential. Defeating the final boss with Speech isn't really Torment-specific, but it is indeed very specific in Torment.
matejko1121 8 months ago
@officialac Arcanum for example :) but yeah, the game has to be 2001 and lower in the release date...
thorn3000 4 months ago
@officialac Fallout 1 =D
MiloDeEscorpio 1 month ago
Spells in this game are awesome. Not like in alot of other rpgs I've played where a lv10 fire spell still looks the same as a lower level fireball just slightly bigger.
gexv8 4 years ago 6
in a interview one of the producers was asked who the lich who casts the spell was and he said it was just sommthing they tought would look cool =)
CcruzP 4 years ago 3
Overkill.
BlackSephir 4 years ago
How could you use it in Baator?
You get it near the climax of the game don't you
(SPOILER: After talking with 3 of your incarnations and using Pharod's yellow sphere)
Acsabi44 4 years ago
I used a mod to show you what happens when used on regular monsters.
Neverwinter27 4 years ago
My game crashes when I use this spell against Transcenedent One.
TeronGorefiend1 4 years ago
WTF??I finished PET but i've never het this spell??HOW CAN I GET IT!!!!
sarkander111 4 years ago
I think you rip it out of your own skin when you talk with one of your three selves.
mulaga12 4 years ago 2
Ouch.
Veke99 4 years ago
awesoooome
Maplesyrup41 4 years ago
Normally it takes the whole game...and you need to play with real involvement to get it, so it must be worth it...besides it is Torment, it just cannot be wrong.
Tartear 4 years ago
Hmm, one of best spells... :D
0DARN 5 years ago
Rune of Torment... Video cool, hex workshop cool... hehe.
0DARN 5 years ago