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  • a trompette harmonique plus a grand cornet V played together will sound like a tuba...this l learned from the late Larry Phelps.....try it

  • Well then, awesome!

  • Having internal chamades isn't 'really rare;' it may be the path less taken, but it certainly wasn't unusual back when Cavaille-Coll popularized horizontal and hooded reeds outside of Spain. Chamades are now almost universally outside the facade because, bluntly, it looks cool. I, for one, prefer them internally, but hey, beggars can't be choosers.

  • I have seen an organ in Georgia with En chamades in the organ. Due to the acoustics of the room, I believe it was a waste.

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  • My dear fellow the stops called "en Chamade" can be set inside an organ like on the Van den Heuvel organ of the St Eustache church in Paris or the Kleuker organ in the Townhall of Zurich. But I agree you, it 's really rare!

  • Ok, i see, but indeed its rare

  • The CC in Sacre couer has it's chamades just behind it's facade!

  • If I am not mistake the en Chamades are also in the organ rather than on the facade at St. Ignatius Loyola in NYC. Sounds lovely actually because they are placed very high in the organ case.

  • Don't be daft. They are enchamde whether they can be seen or not

  • They don' t have to be in the facade! Chamade means "to sound a parley". It's not the placement of the chorus reed that is important. Some chamades are even enclosed!

  • Yea you are right. I was a bit confused since all the organs i have played that have chamades, they are horizontally placed in the facade. If i was an organ builder though, i wouldnt have any reasons to put the chamades inside the organ, since not only they are beautiful , but they also sound clearer when they are not enclosed. (like almost all french organs do) but, as i have found out ,there are indeed chamades that are placed inside the organ.

  • I fully understand! They are very beautiful indeed! The probably speak better outside the organ but it's more expencive to but them in the facade. On the otherhand, the take a lot od space if you put them inside!

  • You are right :-)

  • Interesting! What is a chamade?

  • @geoliti a Trompette en Chamade, or just Chamade is a Trompette, which resonators are placed horizontally. Some builders built them inside the organ case and some of the known examples have only the top part bent horizontally. Generally, they are used as Solo stops, mostly for trumpet passages. Look for Lang's Tuba tune. The Tuba theme clearly asks for an Chamade.

  • @pordzio: with respect, the CS Lang Tuba Tune asks for a Tuba, not a Trompette en Chamade, which sounds as different as an bassoon does from a euphonium. There are (or were) a few Tubas 'en chamade', such as Belfast City Hall, Ludlow Parish Church and of course the famous one at York Minster (although this is actually a 'hooded' reed (with a very long hood!!) like the faux-chamade at St Sulpice, but again, voiced totally differently)

  • There are en chamades inside!!!

  • Built in 1899 for the World Exposition in Paris 1900.

  • and then transported in Moscow?

  • That's it.

  • Cavaillé-Coll!!

  • Is it a Aristide Cavaillé-Coll or a Charles Mutin Cavaillé-Coll?

  • I think that it's Mutin!

  • Your right I didn't think it was but either way its still a fantastic organ!

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