Is there really justice in arguing FOR hillsong? everyone, please, I'm sure nobody here represents Hillsong or owns them in anyway to get all defensive and such, so just stop arguing over the net. It is true that they use dotted 8th a lot, and it IS in some ways a "safety zone" for them, but dotted 8th is used for progressive music, in this case Christian Rock. It's not because they can't be anymore creataive, it's that the 8ths are what goes with the mix well.
Hillsongs guitar playing is awful! lets get real here!! single noted solo's with delay obsession!! are the most lame thing to do with a guitar! stop trying to be the edge :) get some heart and soul into it!! learn to play
@Fender1976uk yup everybody who uses delay is trying to be the edge. because he obviously invented the delay pedal and holds exclusive rights to the effect. thank you for enlightening us with your brilliance.
Yeah but everyone trying to be the Edge is LAME. and I am sure everyone else notices how hillsong nick U2 guitar lines and stick them in their tunes, thats cheating in my books! they should do their own thing
There is afew tunes where you can hear U2 guitar lines, I forgot the titles but one plays a part to 'the streets have no name' for an example :) anyway, using delayed dotted eighths does make you sound like U2 because the Edge was the guitar player that came up with that way of playing, back in the 80's!!! it wasn't considered great at first by some but it was original but that was 30 odd years ago!
@Fender1976uk that doesn't cut it son, i want names of specific songs...which one rips off streets? if your going to accuse them of that at least back yourself up. look at the video of nigel playing this, (he came up with the parts) he plays 16ths for the intro line and verse, not a ton of delay, just fast playing
I think people can hear the rip offs for themselves, their not that hard to notice if your a guitar player. I have been around Christian guitar players who will admit theres a thing about the Edge going on :) and I can't remember specific names of tunes and I'm not going to spend time to point out the titles
that has to be the most ignorant thing to say. Its obvious you don't have any type of musical knowledge when you say that they "should stop copying the edge". The reason why music even exist is because someone was influenced by someone else, if you think that every one who plays guitar should not sound like someone else you have a lot to learn about music. they admit that they have been influenced by a numerous amount of bands just like every single musician/band in the world
I'm just talking about Christian rock! afraid I have qualifications in music :) how many Hillsong tunes have the dotted delay solos going on?? they are safety zone musicians with very little imagination
How many bands in general use dotted 8? And they are a praise and worship band not some rockstars from the uk. So their approach is completely different. You have to be mindful of what works in a church setting, I am not going to say i am an expert on them but why would they change what works? i highly doubt they will start using heavy metal solos ect. into the worship setting if its not going to react well with the people they r doing it for. Its more about he setting than talent
Is there really justice in arguing FOR hillsong? everyone, please, I'm sure nobody here represents Hillsong or owns them in anyway to get all defensive and such, so just stop arguing over the net. It is true that they use dotted 8th a lot, and it IS in some ways a "safety zone" for them, but dotted 8th is used for progressive music, in this case Christian Rock. It's not because they can't be anymore creataive, it's that the 8ths are what goes with the mix well.
KsideHb 1 year ago
@DarkStageFilms
A very good point which pretty much clears up this debate
devomartin 1 year ago
if thats your basis then maybe we should all stop playing. theres a difference between being influenced by a player and ripping him off
robbersteve 1 year ago
Hillsongs guitar playing is awful! lets get real here!! single noted solo's with delay obsession!! are the most lame thing to do with a guitar! stop trying to be the edge :) get some heart and soul into it!! learn to play
Fender1976uk 1 year ago
@Fender1976uk yup everybody who uses delay is trying to be the edge. because he obviously invented the delay pedal and holds exclusive rights to the effect. thank you for enlightening us with your brilliance.
robbersteve 1 year ago
Yeah but everyone trying to be the Edge is LAME. and I am sure everyone else notices how hillsong nick U2 guitar lines and stick them in their tunes, thats cheating in my books! they should do their own thing
Fender1976uk 1 year ago
@Fender1976uk and what u2 lines are they nicking in this song? using dotted eighths doesnt make you sound like u2
robbersteve 1 year ago
There is afew tunes where you can hear U2 guitar lines, I forgot the titles but one plays a part to 'the streets have no name' for an example :) anyway, using delayed dotted eighths does make you sound like U2 because the Edge was the guitar player that came up with that way of playing, back in the 80's!!! it wasn't considered great at first by some but it was original but that was 30 odd years ago!
Fender1976uk 1 year ago
@Fender1976uk that doesn't cut it son, i want names of specific songs...which one rips off streets? if your going to accuse them of that at least back yourself up. look at the video of nigel playing this, (he came up with the parts) he plays 16ths for the intro line and verse, not a ton of delay, just fast playing
robbersteve 1 year ago
I think people can hear the rip offs for themselves, their not that hard to notice if your a guitar player. I have been around Christian guitar players who will admit theres a thing about the Edge going on :) and I can't remember specific names of tunes and I'm not going to spend time to point out the titles
Fender1976uk 1 year ago
@Fender1976uk
that has to be the most ignorant thing to say. Its obvious you don't have any type of musical knowledge when you say that they "should stop copying the edge". The reason why music even exist is because someone was influenced by someone else, if you think that every one who plays guitar should not sound like someone else you have a lot to learn about music. they admit that they have been influenced by a numerous amount of bands just like every single musician/band in the world
DarkStageFilms 1 year ago
I'm just talking about Christian rock! afraid I have qualifications in music :) how many Hillsong tunes have the dotted delay solos going on?? they are safety zone musicians with very little imagination
Fender1976uk 1 year ago
@Fender1976uk
How many bands in general use dotted 8? And they are a praise and worship band not some rockstars from the uk. So their approach is completely different. You have to be mindful of what works in a church setting, I am not going to say i am an expert on them but why would they change what works? i highly doubt they will start using heavy metal solos ect. into the worship setting if its not going to react well with the people they r doing it for. Its more about he setting than talent
DarkStageFilms 1 year ago
Hehe, creative.
mutestart 2 years ago
why are they all moving their fingers?
gabe1621991 3 years ago
Ur delay was too much...
but it was good...nice work...
Gabee1019 3 years ago
He is Sam Knock
saahbrito 3 years ago
who's the worship leader???
gufronboyz4 3 years ago
haha very good!!.. You Deserve was not very good on this Album.
DudesonsSuomi22 3 years ago
You don't think? I thought it was great!
Slightly different to the In A Valley by the Sea... more of a Hillsong Worshipy touch to it :D
I'm sure there are songs on this album you prefer that i like less :P
danthepilotman 3 years ago