Pochahontas ripped off Avatar, then traveled back in time to make money for the original script, but then realize that CGI was impossible back then, and so, had to make a cartoon.
the only difference is Pocahontas is better. I like James Cameron and all, he's from my hometown and Titanic is my favourite movie. But I'd much rather watch Pocahontas than Avatar.
Am I the only who noticed that Avatar (December 2009) copied the planet Pandora with blue aliens from a Star Wars The Clone Wars episode (aired on January 2009), where there is a planet named Pantora with blue aliens?
Everyone talks about how the plot is similar to other movies. But I seem to be the only person who was disturbed by the "hair sex" in this movie. This movie was just filthy with hair sex.
I don't understand why people get so upset because Pocahontas isn't historically correct. Would you really want your kids to watch a movie about slaughtered native Americans? If you have a problem with the movie then don't watch it or show it to your kids. Also if you have a problem with this video then why are you watching it in the first place? I'm not trying to sound rude or anything, but it seems like it would be a lot easier if people didn't watch things they didn't like then resulting in
But the issue is that to be truly historically correct those nature loving peaceful tribesman would also have to be represented as the warlike people they were. Do these people honestly think the paint, bows, and spears were for show? Real history is much more interesting and varied.
I can honor people for defending something they enjoy. The problem is when they do so to hateful purpose.
Well seeing as you clearly don't understand history yourself because this movie doesn't represent it, what you truly want is 'I would rather show the slaughter of Americans so that kids will understand my point of view'
How about show them Birth of a Nation too? That had 'valid historical information' once upon a time too...
So us HUMANS are killing the planet...but Native Americans are hunky dory.
Also, no child hasn't grown up learning that between his time shooting puppies in the face Columbus was slaughtering indians. After all, white people are evil that way.
Jake is a mindless, empty vessel and Neytri is a whiny self-absorbed he-woman.
Pocahantus and John Smith were adults to their childish blue antics.
@bloodrunsclear I understand, it's just my opinion and I know movies have been somewhat lazy recently but I just still happen to enjoy Avatar. I obviously don't dislike you either. I was just sharing my opinion on this. We just leave it here as it is, as we have different opinions on this movie.
that was great. well done. about time someone spells it out like that. the only thing special about avatar is that they dumped a ton of money into digital effects. that's what it's come to..oooh look at the pretty colors..
So I really liked ferngully, *buzz* pocahontas? *buzz* Atlantis lost empire? *buzz* Dances with wolves? *buzz* Avatar? *Bing* the most original movie I've ever seen in my life!
@bloodrunsclear It's not a version of it. They just have the same themes. I don't know why that's hard to understand. We could argue about the "rescue the princess" theme all day since many movies do that, but that's not the same thing as plagiarizing it. People often mention the romace between Jake and Neytri. For one thing John Smith and Pocohontas sort of fell in love pretty quick, but with Jake and Neytri they didn't like each other but the romance grew. They didn't even meet the same way.
Young explorer arrives with a mining operation in a newly discovered land to convince the local natives to leave their homes so that precious material can be gathered from below. The hero stumbles across the princess of the tribe in the deep forest and she teaches him how to respect the environment and confront the evil military head of his own operation.
Only in Pocahantos he did this through self sacrifice.
In Avatar he just killed everyone he disagreed with
@Yabuturtle Disney drastically distorted history to make Pocohontas a child's "Dances with wolves". James Cameran took the same story and made it look pretty. That's it. In reality, John Smith was more like 40 than 20, and Pocohantas was closer to 12. Welcome to the world of film-making. Reality doesn't sell movies. (even "reality tv" is fake! haha).
Just because James Cameron also stole from The Matrix doesn't mean he gets forgiven for making a dumbed down Pocohontas.
I guess it would be kind of childish to whine for the sake of whining in the comments of a video even though the movie it decried earned tons of money despite being unoriginal, lazy, and dull.
@bloodrunsclear People take things from movies all the time. You could say every movie is a rip off because they've all taken things from each other. The Matrix didn't take anything from others? I don't care if it's unoriginal that doesn't make it less enjoyable. There's movies out there barely original but still good. Taking a theme or a few things is not the same thing as ripping it off. Tell how he stole the Matrix. Wouldn't matter if he did. The stories couldn't be more different.
Generally they do something creative, or put a new spin on things, or at least make it interesting.
Avatar wasn't any of these things. It was a hodge podge of other's hard work with no effort involved to make it new or unique. In fact it dumbed down its source materials.
Not like The Matrix? Huh...a guy is put into a virtual reality simulation of an idealized self and learns he's the chosen one.
Avatar is just Pocahontas with blue people. :/ The only difference is that Pocahontas is much better, because at least that movie paid more attention to the plot than the special effects.
Avatar is about a marine with no personality who is pussy whipped into killing his own people because he wants to hug trees. He never has to make any decisions, isn't wounded, and is magically the chosen one anyway.
Pochahontas is about a brash explorer who learns to appreciate his enemy (not just because he has the hots for a girl) and eventually ends up grievously wounded to PREVENT war. All he had was a rifle, not mystical BS.
Cameron wrote Avatar in 1993 before Pocahontas, BEFORE! he had the idea in 1988 when he wrote down the plot and ideas on a piece of paper he had in a desk for 6 years then he wrote an 80 page screenplay in 1993 as he announced in 1995 that he would make it after Titanic but in 98 he felt the technology was not advanced enough for his film, so he decided to put the script in a drawer and wait a decade for the technology to satisfy his vision.
NO 1993 i tell and it was his baby since 1988 and his ideas. Do you think Cameron should have changed the script when he greenlighted the movie in 2005? He greenlighted it and rewrote the script using some of the unique language he created. Do you know Pocahontas is not a disney character but a real story eons ago? Did Avatar also reminded you of Princess Mononoke, Castle in The Sky, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind and the French animated classic Fantastic Planet?
So he just physically predicted the Bush administration and the iraq war?
Yes, Cameron should have changed his crap script. Consider people complaining about Sucker Punch, a story idea Synder had when he was fourteen. People call it juvenile. Cameron is the same way.
No story is sacred. People complained about Lucas making hack stories and not Cameron? Why?
Would the Star Wars prequels be reviewed better if the CGI was more expensive?
Do you think Avatar is inferior to Fantastic Planet, MOnonoke, Nausicaa and Castle in The Sky? Cameron copied CITS at times with the same floating islands, the floating rock substance and people wanting the thing.
He even copied Heavy Metal at times especially that Taarna vs. Barbarian king climax he did as a homage to the same scene where Neytiri fought Quatrich, the story of Den and even had Taarna elements especially with the dragon.
You're just mentioning here that Cameron is ripping off superior stories but without the substance. In Castle in the Sky the floating rocks were explained. Not so in Avatar. They're just called 'Unobtanium' and left at that.
How lazy.
Heavy Metal was imaginative and bold. Avatar is neither.
So yes, more proof Cameron is a very pale imitation.
I'm certain you're a fine person and intelligent and kind and respectful so if I say anything I mean to attack the film, not you. Just saying so. I hate to insult people. It doesn't reflect well on who I am.
@bloodrunsclear if you hate avatar so much, go make a better movie that beats his box office records, ratings, and have a bigger budget. tell me one line in the movie that was "stupid" dialogue. and give me one reason why humans should not be aware/scared that we are ruining and killing the planet. and get over the fact that the people are blue. the story is totally perfect and if you weren't so close-minded maybe you could see that. its a shame.
@bloodrunsclear the line is: "they're just pissing on us without even the courtesy of calling it rain." you want to make quotes from a movie to back you up? you might want to try getting them right or you just sound like an idiot. humans aren't killing the planet? you must be in some serious denial. and what are you helping with if the planet isnt being destroyed? that makes absolutely no sense. and after that i have no idea what the heck you're rambling about. and get a new def. of intelligent
Ah, sorry. You do realize people don't talk that way right? Oh and I've gratefully forgotten most of Avatar and never mean to waste my time watching it again.
Say where did you hear humans were destroying the planet? Maybe Al Gore (who has a huge mansion) James Cameron (who has several huge mansions) or Michael Moore (whose a millionaire)? Maybe from your teachers?
Intelligent: capable of independent critical thought.
You buy anything sold to you in a shiny cinematic package.
Seriously, think about this 'totally perfect' story for just a second.
A guy with no personality travels to a planet to do something he'd rather not do to get money for new legs. However he discovers the people he'd fighting give him back his legs, give him a pet dragon and a hot chick. So, heroically, he betrays everybody he trained with, kills them all with an ambush, all so he can get what he wants.
That's our message? Betray people and be a selfish horny jerk?
@bloodrunsclear you have no idea all i could come back at you with. there is simply too much to say. so lets make it short and sweet, shall we? no matter what you say, you are wrong, because your opinion doesn't matter. MY opinion is the only thing that matters, and what you are wasting your time saying is not changing my mind AT ALL. your putting up a worthless and pathetic fight. And you apparently want to make a movie with "hope" over "despair"? watch avatar and take some notes.
You admit to accepting no other opinion then yourself? That's not an argument. Also seeing as I've addressed and destroyed your sad little reasons for devotional obsession with a massive, wasteful rip-off if all you can argue back with is 'my opinion is the only thing that matters' that's just sad.
Hope over despair? In the end the humans are sent back to their 'dying world' and Jake gets everything he wants for betraying his species.
@bloodrunsclear are you too thick to realize that your pathetic excuses are not changing my mind? you're not seeing the movie for its true message.maybe he betrayed his own species because they were being selfish, murdering innocent people, and destroying things that were not theirs to destroy. so what's really wrong here? betraying your race who is doing disgusting and disgraceful things, or having the courage to stand alone and fight for what is right instead of what is easy?
@bloodrunsclear jake totally knew coming into this situation that he was about to become cheif of a na'vi clan. thats the whole reason he came to pandora in the first place, right? you are so wrong, close-minded, and arrogent, i dont want to assosiate myself in any way with you. goodbye.
p.s. that was a horrible comeback and my mind still isn't changed. surprise surprise.
I'd like to see some Avatar fan come on this page and be all like "Oh my gosh! you don't even know how to appreciate a good movie!! James Cameron is a genius!" geez...they're so similar you could just paint Pocahontas blue and it'd be the same exact thing!!!
Ha! This "trailer" nails it! Cameron pretty much just ripped off the whole "Pocahontas" storyline. Not a bad movie, mind you, just very un-original. Cool visuals though.
Ahhhh ha ha. That was pretty good. Well done. I thought it was funny.
To all you asshats arguing about terrorists, our legal system etc I say:
this is youtube..... not cnn or fox news forums. go there if you want a moral/intellectual penis measuring contest. Read the creator's comment. You are taking this in a completely different direction. So tired of you clowns making everything about your opinion. It's selfish and rude, so keep it in context or gtfo.
I agree that Avatar was derivative of the movies everybody always cites (Fern Gully, Pocahontas, Dances With Wolves), but I think there are actually very important tonal distinctions between the films, and some interesting nuances that people tend to overlook in Avatar -- which, I agree, was far more simple than I would have hoped, coming from Cameron. For starters, Pocahontas is played as a tale of tolerance while Avatar states in no uncertain terms that these two cultures are INCOMPATIBLE.
This is an important distinction. While the humans, as represented by the military contractors were cartoonishly evil, we are made to believe that humanity isn't evil as a whole, but that our way of life cannot coexist with the Na'vi way of life. Therefore, a choice must be made, there is no compromise. This is pretty gutsy, actually. It goes beyond saying, "hey we can learn things from other cultures" and simply says, "maybe we're wrong."
2) It might be PC and all girl-power, but it's very PRO western, since her girl-power amounts to playing the boys' game of colonization and globaliztion.
3) America still sees itself as plucky individualists. Stark fits the mould.
4) Fair enough.
5) I agree.
6) I also agree, I think the politics in those books is surprisingly nuanced.
7) Really?
8) Me neither.
9) It's more Pocahontas than Avatar, though, it's about integration and tolerance.
Toy Story 3: In which its revealed the put upon, liberal minded kindly natives are actually plotting an evil scheme.
Iron Man 2: In which both heroes are patriots and the enemy is a prancing, overfunded dweeb with technical knowhow but no instincts (in other words James Cameron)
11) Anti-tradition, I'll buy that. But one could easily argue it supports the american narrative of the plucky underdog standing against the big evil power (american revolution). AND, he's still rollin' with Zeus, so, you know, it's just about a boy trying to do things on his own.
15) I didn't see it. M. Night has really gone downhill since he showed up on the scene.
The 'plucky underdog' nowadays is the exclusive right of a person thinking in a certain political way. The American Revolution was against control by anyone, the rights of individuals.
Now it seems control is all right if its done by the 'right people'.
@bloodrunsclear The Na'vi have jerks and jealousy, just like any set of individuals, but they also all have the same belief system, albeit different articulations, as a result of actually all plugging into the same experience. For this reason, they are less likely to misunderstand each other and fight. As a metaphor for our world, it's impossible and idealized, but for a fictional race, it's fine. People seem to be threatened by the idea that we could be flat out wrong.
The fact that the Na'vi have problems doesn't matter to Cameron. They're STILL perfect.
The Jerk amounts to nothing. The fact that the Na'vi are actually more racist then the humans ('Until he's unlearned his insanity!') doesn't matter. Jealousy doesn't matter. The whole movie justifies everything the Na'vi do, condemns everything the humans do...even when they're THE EXACT SAME THINGS.
And no, people are more irritated by a rich white guy telling them they suck, not threatened.
@bloodrunsclear Well, because I think that Avatar isn't as one-dimensional as people chalk it up to being. I think it certainly represents James Cameron's attempt at reconciling his privilege as a now rich, white, old, man with something he sees as lost in his existence, that is, a fundamental connection to everything around him in a spiritual or physical way, not just abstract and intellectual. And I think that's real. The film is far less brilliant than I had hoped for, though, to be sure.
Lets think back. The hero is a complete blank. He follows the human's orders until he joins the Na'vi, then follows their orders. The bad guys have no good motivations or personalities and even laugh maniacally. Jake likewise wins not because of his intelligence or anything he learned but because he's the magical chosen one.
James Cameron might feel remorse, but he expresses it in massively expensive petty attacks on people he doesn't like?
@bloodrunsclear In the original scriptment for the thing, he goes far deeper into the human condition, portraying earth as overcrowded and exhausted, basically suggesting that the intense urbanization and overpopulation experienced in some developing nations will envelope the planet. He also portrays the humans on pandora as being beholden to economic interests. Rather than being simply evil or greedy, they're caught more in the middle of forces that are larger than they are.
The idea of Earth dying because people didn't give money to enviromentalists is both nothing new and self defeating. If Earth is so hard up for ways to live, why do the people on Pandora care about publicity? If the Earth depends on Pandora to survive, isn't Jake actually committing mass genocide by sending all the humans home?
So yes, uninventive and either makes out the humans to be idiots or Jake to be an even bigger killer then the humans.
@bloodrunsclear some people are portrayed as cavalier cowboy types, and bigots who think the hippie-indian-Na'vi are a bunch of primitives, but others are just worried about making a living. I think that James Cameron himself is a smarter guy than the film version of Avatar would suggest -- I mean, look at the rest of his filmography -- so I would defend him from being called a hack, even though I think this film, and the previous film were both less than he could deliver.
So you mean the westerners and Americans, non-hippies and business people are portrayed as evil.
Again, nothing new at all. And even the working class soldiers are slaughter by Jake his jihad.
James is a hack. Titanic is drivel. He didn't even work that much on Terminator or Terminator 2. Look it up. An Italian director actually started the films and James took over for him.
Likewise Terminator's story was ripped off Harlan Elison, a man James did not credit until sued.
@bloodrunsclear But ultimately, I personally like the idea that we are all connected as part of a whole (thought not as literally as the world of Avatar), and that there are certain modes of thought that conflict with that and keep us separated. It's as simple as that. I wish the story was told in less cartoonish terms, but I don't mind that we're seeing a film from another race's perspective, rather than trying to see "all sides of the story." We already know the human side. We live it.
If the theme was 'we're all connected' then why was the movie all about how much we're separated? People who thought the wrong way in the movie only listened to violence and in the end Jake gives up his humanity completely. Apparently we're all connected...except humans. They suck.
And name a story that's not from 'another side' nowadays. Green Zone? Iraqis are the heroes. How to Train? Dragons are the heroes.
We don't know the human side. All we hear is the other.
@bloodrunsclear Didn't see Green Zone. But How To Train Your Dragon isn't about humans being bad, it's about humans misunderstanding, and then coming to accept. That's a redemptive story for the humans. And the humans are totally justified in fighting the invading Dragons from their perspective.
Yes, you're right, the humans were NOT connected. They refused to believe in the connection, and therefore had to go. The humans that DID believe stayed. Nothing wrong with that.
Actually in How to Train the vikings do exactly what the hero later proposes. But when he does it its good. When they do it its bad. Some people are just always wrong because of who they are.
Also the hero screams at one point 'I'm not one of them!' to the dragons. Like Jake her heroically betrays his people.
I find it ironic how someone like you probably unhappy with Iraq because it suggests inequality and control, supports the inequality and control imposed in Avatar.
@thereanygoodnameleft OMG I thought he movie would be ok more on the bad side but it was one if the best movies ever if not the best one ever!!! I can't stop thinking about it!! There is no way you can't go see the movie.
Um...why? Really the movie is boring, the music is trite, the characters are dull, the dialogue is bad, the CGI looks like plastic, the message is ham-handed, the story is barely there and what is has been stolen from better films.
You can't stop thinking about it? Neither can I because I've rarely seen so god-awful, pretentious, sloppily made, lazily written nonsense.
@bloodrunsclear dude if people like the movie thats their buisness thats theirs to share no one needs to hear personal fuckin opinion on why its bad i enjoyed the movie and i thongs it great if you dont have anything nice to say about then dont troll about it on youtube faggot keep your opinions to yourself troll bitch
I know what looks good and what doesn't being an avid gamer. To me Up looked better because it didn't stray into the uncanny valley and seemed more consistent. The vehicles looked great, the actors looked find up close, but far away it looked so unrealistic it was jarring.
Then again I might have forgiven it if I was SO DAMN BORED!
@bloodrunsclear I see what you mean. I can agree to an extent. The Uncanny Valley is the biggest problem right now, but I think the fact that these characters are not trying to look human helps.
My film prof mentioned this video in class today and I just had to look it up. Even though I liked both movies, I'm so tired of seeing the same "savior" story played out. Great job mashing the two. It was perfect.
@monuorah I was critical of the great white savior of the natives too, after seeing the film. A Seneca friend of mine flipped it for me, though. He suggested an alternate reading wherein it is not Jake that saves the Na'vi, but rather the Na'vi that save Jake. Usually, I would write it off as the "mystical natives" trope, but when actual indigenous people read it as positive, I have to get off my analytical high horse for a second. Also, unlike Smith, Jake doesn't get to keep his privilege.
First off, let me say that I'd get a happy feeling in my chest too if a white guy was actually portrayed positively in a movie, but that's a knee jerk reaction. It doesn't mean the film was any good.
Second of all, Jake DOES get to keep his privilege. He gives up that nasty humanity thing, becomes leader, still
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Pochahontas ripped off Avatar, then traveled back in time to make money for the original script, but then realize that CGI was impossible back then, and so, had to make a cartoon.
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@Griesmayer
Stop reading from James Cameron's excuse notes! XD
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And if you think about it, "Titanic" was basically "Aladdin" on a sinking ship, with bits and pieces of "Beauty and the Beast" thrown in.
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@emlodik
I think the only original films James Cameron has made to date is his first one, Piranha 2 XD
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James Cameron ripped off Pocahontas.
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I hoped so :)
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I laughed when it said Avatar on the screen, but the voiceover guy said Pocahontas at the same time. :)
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the only difference is Pocahontas is better. I like James Cameron and all, he's from my hometown and Titanic is my favourite movie. But I'd much rather watch Pocahontas than Avatar.
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Am I the only who noticed that Avatar (December 2009) copied the planet Pandora with blue aliens from a Star Wars The Clone Wars episode (aired on January 2009), where there is a planet named Pantora with blue aliens?
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Love when it says "Avatar" and the voice says "Pocahontas"
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who realized this movie was just an over dramatized CGI version of Pocahontas.
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Everyone talks about how the plot is similar to other movies. But I seem to be the only person who was disturbed by the "hair sex" in this movie. This movie was just filthy with hair sex.
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I don't get why the movie was so praised. It's just Pocahontas in space dammit.
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*MAN'S VOICE: POCAHONTAS
but...but it says avatar! lol i love it XP
ilikespoofs 7 months ago
I don't understand why people get so upset because Pocahontas isn't historically correct. Would you really want your kids to watch a movie about slaughtered native Americans? If you have a problem with the movie then don't watch it or show it to your kids. Also if you have a problem with this video then why are you watching it in the first place? I'm not trying to sound rude or anything, but it seems like it would be a lot easier if people didn't watch things they didn't like then resulting in
somethingfunny18 7 months ago 7
@somethingfunny18
Some people would.
But the issue is that to be truly historically correct those nature loving peaceful tribesman would also have to be represented as the warlike people they were. Do these people honestly think the paint, bows, and spears were for show? Real history is much more interesting and varied.
I can honor people for defending something they enjoy. The problem is when they do so to hateful purpose.
Like Avatar itself.
bloodrunsclear 7 months ago 6
@somethingfunny18 I would rather show slaughter of Americans then them growing up with invalid information
DrNickPHD 5 months ago
@DrNickPHD
Well seeing as you clearly don't understand history yourself because this movie doesn't represent it, what you truly want is 'I would rather show the slaughter of Americans so that kids will understand my point of view'
How about show them Birth of a Nation too? That had 'valid historical information' once upon a time too...
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BlackRoof 7 months ago
@blueguppies
So us HUMANS are killing the planet...but Native Americans are hunky dory.
Also, no child hasn't grown up learning that between his time shooting puppies in the face Columbus was slaughtering indians. After all, white people are evil that way.
Jake is a mindless, empty vessel and Neytri is a whiny self-absorbed he-woman.
Pocahantus and John Smith were adults to their childish blue antics.
bloodrunsclear 7 months ago
@bloodrunsclear I understand, it's just my opinion and I know movies have been somewhat lazy recently but I just still happen to enjoy Avatar. I obviously don't dislike you either. I was just sharing my opinion on this. We just leave it here as it is, as we have different opinions on this movie.
Yabuturtle 8 months ago
that was great. well done. about time someone spells it out like that. the only thing special about avatar is that they dumped a ton of money into digital effects. that's what it's come to..oooh look at the pretty colors..
rmaxtpmx 8 months ago
So I really liked ferngully, *buzz* pocahontas? *buzz* Atlantis lost empire? *buzz* Dances with wolves? *buzz* Avatar? *Bing* the most original movie I've ever seen in my life!
keniakittykat 8 months ago 2
@keniakittykat
Careful, the last commentator actually believed that O_o
bloodrunsclear 8 months ago
@Yabuturtle
Sure, but Pochahontas was like the dumbed down kiddified version of Dances with Wolves.
Avatar is like the even dumber version of Pocohantas, only with more righteous genocide.
bloodrunsclear 8 months ago
@bloodrunsclear It's not a version of it. They just have the same themes. I don't know why that's hard to understand. We could argue about the "rescue the princess" theme all day since many movies do that, but that's not the same thing as plagiarizing it. People often mention the romace between Jake and Neytri. For one thing John Smith and Pocohontas sort of fell in love pretty quick, but with Jake and Neytri they didn't like each other but the romance grew. They didn't even meet the same way.
Yabuturtle 8 months ago
@Yabuturtle
Not a version of it:
Young explorer arrives with a mining operation in a newly discovered land to convince the local natives to leave their homes so that precious material can be gathered from below. The hero stumbles across the princess of the tribe in the deep forest and she teaches him how to respect the environment and confront the evil military head of his own operation.
Only in Pocahantos he did this through self sacrifice.
In Avatar he just killed everyone he disagreed with
bloodrunsclear 8 months ago
@Yabuturtle Disney drastically distorted history to make Pocohontas a child's "Dances with wolves". James Cameran took the same story and made it look pretty. That's it. In reality, John Smith was more like 40 than 20, and Pocohantas was closer to 12. Welcome to the world of film-making. Reality doesn't sell movies. (even "reality tv" is fake! haha).
rmaxtpmx 8 months ago
@Yabuturtle
Just because James Cameron also stole from The Matrix doesn't mean he gets forgiven for making a dumbed down Pocohontas.
I guess it would be kind of childish to whine for the sake of whining in the comments of a video even though the movie it decried earned tons of money despite being unoriginal, lazy, and dull.
Childish indeed.
bloodrunsclear 8 months ago
@bloodrunsclear People take things from movies all the time. You could say every movie is a rip off because they've all taken things from each other. The Matrix didn't take anything from others? I don't care if it's unoriginal that doesn't make it less enjoyable. There's movies out there barely original but still good. Taking a theme or a few things is not the same thing as ripping it off. Tell how he stole the Matrix. Wouldn't matter if he did. The stories couldn't be more different.
Yabuturtle 8 months ago
@Yabuturtle
Generally they do something creative, or put a new spin on things, or at least make it interesting.
Avatar wasn't any of these things. It was a hodge podge of other's hard work with no effort involved to make it new or unique. In fact it dumbed down its source materials.
Not like The Matrix? Huh...a guy is put into a virtual reality simulation of an idealized self and learns he's the chosen one.
Nah, nothing alike XD
bloodrunsclear 8 months ago
I lol'd at the end when it said 'Pocahontas' hahahaah
faxmunky 8 months ago
can you do this with little mermaid can you
dustin1202 9 months ago
Avatar is just Pocahontas with blue people. :/ The only difference is that Pocahontas is much better, because at least that movie paid more attention to the plot than the special effects.
Crazzy9598 9 months ago
@bloodrunsclear
Good video :)
But after reading your comments to fhtwins1113 I have one thing to say; please learn the difference between 'then' and 'than'. Thanks!
cloobinator 9 months ago
@timisgoood
-Cough- Bad ass?
Pochahontas has more balls then Avatar will ever have, and Nolan has more originality in his nose hairs then that hack James Cameron.
bloodrunsclear 9 months ago
@bloodrunsclear Pochahontas has no balls.
Rewgj 9 months ago
@Rewgj
Really?
Avatar is about a marine with no personality who is pussy whipped into killing his own people because he wants to hug trees. He never has to make any decisions, isn't wounded, and is magically the chosen one anyway.
Pochahontas is about a brash explorer who learns to appreciate his enemy (not just because he has the hots for a girl) and eventually ends up grievously wounded to PREVENT war. All he had was a rifle, not mystical BS.
Pochahontas has more balls then James Cameron.
bloodrunsclear 9 months ago
@bloodrunsclear
Cameron wrote Avatar in 1993 before Pocahontas, BEFORE! he had the idea in 1988 when he wrote down the plot and ideas on a piece of paper he had in a desk for 6 years then he wrote an 80 page screenplay in 1993 as he announced in 1995 that he would make it after Titanic but in 98 he felt the technology was not advanced enough for his film, so he decided to put the script in a drawer and wait a decade for the technology to satisfy his vision.
Johnlindsey289 9 months ago
@Johnlindsey289
If James Cameron wrote the script in 1993 did he also write 'shock and awe' and 'fight terror with terror'?
No. He had plenty of time to realize he'd remade Pocahantus only less subtly. He just didn't care.
So basically you're praising James Cameron for being a lazy hack. I'm sure he appreciates it.
bloodrunsclear 9 months ago
@bloodrunsclear
NO 1993 i tell and it was his baby since 1988 and his ideas. Do you think Cameron should have changed the script when he greenlighted the movie in 2005? He greenlighted it and rewrote the script using some of the unique language he created. Do you know Pocahontas is not a disney character but a real story eons ago? Did Avatar also reminded you of Princess Mononoke, Castle in The Sky, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind and the French animated classic Fantastic Planet?
Johnlindsey289 9 months ago
@Johnlindsey289
So he just physically predicted the Bush administration and the iraq war?
Yes, Cameron should have changed his crap script. Consider people complaining about Sucker Punch, a story idea Synder had when he was fourteen. People call it juvenile. Cameron is the same way.
No story is sacred. People complained about Lucas making hack stories and not Cameron? Why?
Would the Star Wars prequels be reviewed better if the CGI was more expensive?
Probably :/
Also Pochantas is EONS old? O_o
bloodrunsclear 9 months ago
@bloodrunsclear
Do you think Avatar is inferior to Fantastic Planet, MOnonoke, Nausicaa and Castle in The Sky? Cameron copied CITS at times with the same floating islands, the floating rock substance and people wanting the thing.
He even copied Heavy Metal at times especially that Taarna vs. Barbarian king climax he did as a homage to the same scene where Neytiri fought Quatrich, the story of Den and even had Taarna elements especially with the dragon.
Johnlindsey289 9 months ago
@Johnlindsey289
Yes, Yes, Yes and HELL Yes XD
You're just mentioning here that Cameron is ripping off superior stories but without the substance. In Castle in the Sky the floating rocks were explained. Not so in Avatar. They're just called 'Unobtanium' and left at that.
How lazy.
Heavy Metal was imaginative and bold. Avatar is neither.
So yes, more proof Cameron is a very pale imitation.
bloodrunsclear 9 months ago
@Johnlindsey289
I don't mean to be mean, I really don't :/
This movie just messes with me, makes me angry.
I'm certain you're a fine person and intelligent and kind and respectful so if I say anything I mean to attack the film, not you. Just saying so. I hate to insult people. It doesn't reflect well on who I am.
bloodrunsclear 9 months ago
@bloodrunsclear
Do you think Cameron is more like Michael Bay than Nolan right? would you compare Cameron to bay?
Johnlindsey289 9 months ago
@Johnlindsey289
Cameron is more like Roger Corman with a budget.
Michael Bay at least has some respect for the united states and its military.
And humanity.
bloodrunsclear 9 months ago
You had me loling my ass off at "Blue corn moon" xD
MOVEZIG 10 months ago
avatar is in my opinion the best movie ever made because:
james cameron is a genius
digitals and motion capture is incredible
the acting was amazing
the music by james horner is amazing
and most importantly, the story should be a wakeup call to everybody to care for the earth and protect it.
fhtwins1113 10 months ago
@fhtwins1113
James Cameron is a genius...and stealing other people's ideas.
Effects are great...but the story was crap.
The acting was fine...but the dialogue was stupid.
Music was great...but the worst score Horner has ever made.
And the hack story was the same lame and hateful environmental paranoia you can hear anywhere, encouraging nothing but misanthropy and violence.
Bravo Cameron. You won another disciple with pretty colors and blue people.
bloodrunsclear 10 months ago
@bloodrunsclear if you hate avatar so much, go make a better movie that beats his box office records, ratings, and have a bigger budget. tell me one line in the movie that was "stupid" dialogue. and give me one reason why humans should not be aware/scared that we are ruining and killing the planet. and get over the fact that the people are blue. the story is totally perfect and if you weren't so close-minded maybe you could see that. its a shame.
fhtwins1113 10 months ago
@fhtwins1113
Give me half of the two billion he wasted on Pochantus 2 and I'll make a movie that will expose him for the hack he is.
'They're pissing on us and not even giving us the courtesy to tell us it isn't raining' (stupid, stupid line)
Humans aren't killed or ruining the planet and we are working to help it out.
Blue is stupid for a species that apparently has nothing in their environment that's blue.
The story was actually worse then what it ripped off.
Close minded?
Try intelligent.
bloodrunsclear 10 months ago
@bloodrunsclear the line is: "they're just pissing on us without even the courtesy of calling it rain." you want to make quotes from a movie to back you up? you might want to try getting them right or you just sound like an idiot. humans aren't killing the planet? you must be in some serious denial. and what are you helping with if the planet isnt being destroyed? that makes absolutely no sense. and after that i have no idea what the heck you're rambling about. and get a new def. of intelligent
fhtwins1113 10 months ago
@fhtwins1113
Ah, sorry. You do realize people don't talk that way right? Oh and I've gratefully forgotten most of Avatar and never mean to waste my time watching it again.
Say where did you hear humans were destroying the planet? Maybe Al Gore (who has a huge mansion) James Cameron (who has several huge mansions) or Michael Moore (whose a millionaire)? Maybe from your teachers?
Intelligent: capable of independent critical thought.
You buy anything sold to you in a shiny cinematic package.
bloodrunsclear 10 months ago
@fhtwins1113
(Cont)
Seriously, think about this 'totally perfect' story for just a second.
A guy with no personality travels to a planet to do something he'd rather not do to get money for new legs. However he discovers the people he'd fighting give him back his legs, give him a pet dragon and a hot chick. So, heroically, he betrays everybody he trained with, kills them all with an ambush, all so he can get what he wants.
That's our message? Betray people and be a selfish horny jerk?
bloodrunsclear 10 months ago
@bloodrunsclear you have no idea all i could come back at you with. there is simply too much to say. so lets make it short and sweet, shall we? no matter what you say, you are wrong, because your opinion doesn't matter. MY opinion is the only thing that matters, and what you are wasting your time saying is not changing my mind AT ALL. your putting up a worthless and pathetic fight. And you apparently want to make a movie with "hope" over "despair"? watch avatar and take some notes.
fhtwins1113 10 months ago
@fhtwins1113
Huh?
You admit to accepting no other opinion then yourself? That's not an argument. Also seeing as I've addressed and destroyed your sad little reasons for devotional obsession with a massive, wasteful rip-off if all you can argue back with is 'my opinion is the only thing that matters' that's just sad.
Hope over despair? In the end the humans are sent back to their 'dying world' and Jake gets everything he wants for betraying his species.
Selfishness wins.
No wonder you like it.
bloodrunsclear 10 months ago
@bloodrunsclear are you too thick to realize that your pathetic excuses are not changing my mind? you're not seeing the movie for its true message.maybe he betrayed his own species because they were being selfish, murdering innocent people, and destroying things that were not theirs to destroy. so what's really wrong here? betraying your race who is doing disgusting and disgraceful things, or having the courage to stand alone and fight for what is right instead of what is easy?
fhtwins1113 10 months ago
@fhtwins1113
Oh no, you already said that nothing could change your mind.
So what's really wrong about betraying and killing people? I mean loyalty counts for nothing when YOUR principals are violated.
Courage? Jake was taller then his people, stronger, and had magic on his side.
So he wasn't courageous, betrayed his people for personal gain and power actually since he became chief.
So yes, inspiring stuff.
bloodrunsclear 10 months ago
@bloodrunsclear jake totally knew coming into this situation that he was about to become cheif of a na'vi clan. thats the whole reason he came to pandora in the first place, right? you are so wrong, close-minded, and arrogent, i dont want to assosiate myself in any way with you. goodbye.
p.s. that was a horrible comeback and my mind still isn't changed. surprise surprise.
fhtwins1113 10 months ago
@fhtwins1113
p.s. that was a horrible comeback and my mind still isn't changed. surprise surprise.
I can't say anything better myself. That was a horrible comeback of yours and your mind won't see the truth even if I show it to you.
Enjoy your crap! Cameron will be more then happy to assuage your white guilt with more stolen stories in the future ^^
bloodrunsclear 10 months ago 2
I'd like to see some Avatar fan come on this page and be all like "Oh my gosh! you don't even know how to appreciate a good movie!! James Cameron is a genius!" geez...they're so similar you could just paint Pocahontas blue and it'd be the same exact thing!!!
unrealityproduction 10 months ago
personally i liked pocahontas better
otowndude08 11 months ago
voice actings' very good~ shame it's all out of sych
DirtinSky 11 months ago
I've been ranting for so long about avatar basically being pocahontas lol love it x
ScottishLassie0080 11 months ago
Wait... so these were different movies?
dtroitball 1 year ago 65
@dtroitball
Could have fooled me O_o
They were both animated too!
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago 11
@bloodrunsclear The Voice belongs to Wes Studi. He was in Last of the Mohicans and Dances with Wolves, but not Pocahontas.
BlackDerek 11 months ago
Its even the same actor as the chief
Laser39 1 year ago 32
@Laser39
Wait, really? XD
I didn't know that!
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago 4
@bloodrunsclear no sorry my mistake but the voice is pretty similar
Laser39 11 months ago
@Laser39 The Voice of the chief in Avatar is Wes Studi. He was in Last of the Mohicans and Dances with wolves, but not Avatar.
BlackDerek 11 months ago
Was that wormhole from Stargate Atlantis?
AtarahDerek 1 year ago
Ha! This "trailer" nails it! Cameron pretty much just ripped off the whole "Pocahontas" storyline. Not a bad movie, mind you, just very un-original. Cool visuals though.
Pacisdiligo 1 year ago 5
@Pacisdiligo And what about the storyline of Avatar compared to that of Ferngully (1992).. Even the scenes look alike lol..
XxAlexOnStereoxX 11 months ago
Jake is a traitor to the humanity... nuke them from orbit i say.
lox12 1 year ago
Ahhhh ha ha. That was pretty good. Well done. I thought it was funny.
To all you asshats arguing about terrorists, our legal system etc I say:
this is youtube..... not cnn or fox news forums. go there if you want a moral/intellectual penis measuring contest. Read the creator's comment. You are taking this in a completely different direction. So tired of you clowns making everything about your opinion. It's selfish and rude, so keep it in context or gtfo.
shanemathew 1 year ago 7
I agree that Avatar was derivative of the movies everybody always cites (Fern Gully, Pocahontas, Dances With Wolves), but I think there are actually very important tonal distinctions between the films, and some interesting nuances that people tend to overlook in Avatar -- which, I agree, was far more simple than I would have hoped, coming from Cameron. For starters, Pocahontas is played as a tale of tolerance while Avatar states in no uncertain terms that these two cultures are INCOMPATIBLE.
chillyche 1 year ago
This is an important distinction. While the humans, as represented by the military contractors were cartoonishly evil, we are made to believe that humanity isn't evil as a whole, but that our way of life cannot coexist with the Na'vi way of life. Therefore, a choice must be made, there is no compromise. This is pretty gutsy, actually. It goes beyond saying, "hey we can learn things from other cultures" and simply says, "maybe we're wrong."
chillyche 1 year ago
@chillyche
My goodness, that is gutsy to suggest that Western culture is wrong!
I've never seen that message except it...every single movie ever made.
So no, nothing new, no thought. Just the same popular message.
And by the way get it right: its 'Maybe YOU'RE wrong...'
As for humans not being evil, when? No human is good by themselves and in the end Jake casts aside his humanity like an old shoe.
This film is derivative, hypocritical, trite and misanthropic.
I guess some people like that.
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear Yeah. Every movie ever?
let's see what the biggest movies were this year (according to box office mojo)
1) Toy Story 3. Set up by the cultural experience of a boy going off to college and outgrowing toys.
2) Alice In Wonderland. Ends with Alice becoming a global business magnate in the age of imperialism.
3) Iron Man 2. Tony Stark is the poster boy of Capitalism.
4) Twilight.
5) Inception. Nothing anti-western here.
6) Harry Potter. mishmash of western fairy tales/myths
chillyche 1 year ago
@chillyche
Too easy...
1: Toy Story 3: In which a group of outsides discovers their new society is corrupt.
2: Alice: There are PC exemptions for woman. She doesn't become a business person, she just defies conventions you see.
3: Iron Man 2: The villain is a sleazy corporate exec, the hero a playboy scientist who hates business.
4: Twilight is just a romance.
5: Inception was a breath of fresh air.
6: Harry Potter is actually also refreshing because its anti-totalitarian, not anti American.
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear
1) How is this anti-western?
2) It might be PC and all girl-power, but it's very PRO western, since her girl-power amounts to playing the boys' game of colonization and globaliztion.
3) America still sees itself as plucky individualists. Stark fits the mould.
4) Fair enough.
5) I agree.
6) I also agree, I think the politics in those books is surprisingly nuanced.
7) Really?
8) Me neither.
9) It's more Pocahontas than Avatar, though, it's about integration and tolerance.
chillyche 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear
Wait I thought you said that you liked Iron Man 2. and you didn't like Toy Story 3?
AKenjiB 1 year ago
@AKenjiB
Hmm? I liked Iron Man 2 and Toy Story 3 actually ^^;
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear
Well I noticed your earlier comments
Toy Story 3: In which a group of outsides discovers their new society is corrupt
Iron Man 2: The villain is a sleazy corporate exec, the hero a playboy scientist who hates business.
AKenjiB 1 year ago
@AKenjiB
Toy Story 3: In which its revealed the put upon, liberal minded kindly natives are actually plotting an evil scheme.
Iron Man 2: In which both heroes are patriots and the enemy is a prancing, overfunded dweeb with technical knowhow but no instincts (in other words James Cameron)
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
7) Despicable Me. Haven't seen it.
8) Shrek Forever After. Also haven't seen it.
9) How to Train Your Dragon. Western.
10) The Karate Kid. Western boy learns eastern ways, proceeds to kick eastern boys' butts.
11) Clash of the Titans. Really, this was the number 11 film this year?
Skipping ahead...
15) The Last Airbender. Might be set in an asian themed world, but the asian characters are recast as white.
30) Prince of Persia. Why cast a persian, why not cast Jake Gyllenhaal?
chillyche 1 year ago
@chillyche
7: Despicable Me features an evil bank.
8: Shrek haven't seen
9: How to Train is all about hating westerners and embracing their enemies.
10: Karate haven't seen
11: Clash was anti-religion, and all about hating traditions.
15: Airbender I actually liked.
16: Prince is actually an out and out Iraq War protest so stop complaining. You're covered :)
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear
11) Anti-tradition, I'll buy that. But one could easily argue it supports the american narrative of the plucky underdog standing against the big evil power (american revolution). AND, he's still rollin' with Zeus, so, you know, it's just about a boy trying to do things on his own.
15) I didn't see it. M. Night has really gone downhill since he showed up on the scene.
chillyche 1 year ago
@chillyche
The 'plucky underdog' nowadays is the exclusive right of a person thinking in a certain political way. The American Revolution was against control by anyone, the rights of individuals.
Now it seems control is all right if its done by the 'right people'.
Sorry...left people.
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@chillyche
Incompatible...but where as Pocahontas introduces characters were capable of sympathizing with on both sides, Avatar does not.
The message is mankind cannot live with Na'vi...but that sucks for them because the Na'vi are RIGHT.
The Na'vi do no wrong, know no wrong, live no wrong. Consequently the humans can do no right except where they agree with the Na'vi.
Its so infantile its like saying the Nazis did bad things because they were Nazis, or Indians are good because they're indians.
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear The Na'vi have jerks and jealousy, just like any set of individuals, but they also all have the same belief system, albeit different articulations, as a result of actually all plugging into the same experience. For this reason, they are less likely to misunderstand each other and fight. As a metaphor for our world, it's impossible and idealized, but for a fictional race, it's fine. People seem to be threatened by the idea that we could be flat out wrong.
chillyche 1 year ago
@chillyche
The fact that the Na'vi have problems doesn't matter to Cameron. They're STILL perfect.
The Jerk amounts to nothing. The fact that the Na'vi are actually more racist then the humans ('Until he's unlearned his insanity!') doesn't matter. Jealousy doesn't matter. The whole movie justifies everything the Na'vi do, condemns everything the humans do...even when they're THE EXACT SAME THINGS.
And no, people are more irritated by a rich white guy telling them they suck, not threatened.
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear haha, irritated. Yeah, it's true, Cameron comes across as a totally preachy rich white man. Talk about privilege!
chillyche 1 year ago
@chillyche
Um...if you agree Cameron is a preachy spoiled hack, why are you defending him?
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear Well, because I think that Avatar isn't as one-dimensional as people chalk it up to being. I think it certainly represents James Cameron's attempt at reconciling his privilege as a now rich, white, old, man with something he sees as lost in his existence, that is, a fundamental connection to everything around him in a spiritual or physical way, not just abstract and intellectual. And I think that's real. The film is far less brilliant than I had hoped for, though, to be sure.
chillyche 1 year ago
@chillyche
Um...why isn't Avatar one dimensional?
Lets think back. The hero is a complete blank. He follows the human's orders until he joins the Na'vi, then follows their orders. The bad guys have no good motivations or personalities and even laugh maniacally. Jake likewise wins not because of his intelligence or anything he learned but because he's the magical chosen one.
James Cameron might feel remorse, but he expresses it in massively expensive petty attacks on people he doesn't like?
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear In the original scriptment for the thing, he goes far deeper into the human condition, portraying earth as overcrowded and exhausted, basically suggesting that the intense urbanization and overpopulation experienced in some developing nations will envelope the planet. He also portrays the humans on pandora as being beholden to economic interests. Rather than being simply evil or greedy, they're caught more in the middle of forces that are larger than they are.
chillyche 1 year ago
@chillyche
The idea of Earth dying because people didn't give money to enviromentalists is both nothing new and self defeating. If Earth is so hard up for ways to live, why do the people on Pandora care about publicity? If the Earth depends on Pandora to survive, isn't Jake actually committing mass genocide by sending all the humans home?
So yes, uninventive and either makes out the humans to be idiots or Jake to be an even bigger killer then the humans.
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear some people are portrayed as cavalier cowboy types, and bigots who think the hippie-indian-Na'vi are a bunch of primitives, but others are just worried about making a living. I think that James Cameron himself is a smarter guy than the film version of Avatar would suggest -- I mean, look at the rest of his filmography -- so I would defend him from being called a hack, even though I think this film, and the previous film were both less than he could deliver.
chillyche 1 year ago
@chillyche
So you mean the westerners and Americans, non-hippies and business people are portrayed as evil.
Again, nothing new at all. And even the working class soldiers are slaughter by Jake his jihad.
James is a hack. Titanic is drivel. He didn't even work that much on Terminator or Terminator 2. Look it up. An Italian director actually started the films and James took over for him.
Likewise Terminator's story was ripped off Harlan Elison, a man James did not credit until sued.
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear But ultimately, I personally like the idea that we are all connected as part of a whole (thought not as literally as the world of Avatar), and that there are certain modes of thought that conflict with that and keep us separated. It's as simple as that. I wish the story was told in less cartoonish terms, but I don't mind that we're seeing a film from another race's perspective, rather than trying to see "all sides of the story." We already know the human side. We live it.
chillyche 1 year ago
@chillyche
If the theme was 'we're all connected' then why was the movie all about how much we're separated? People who thought the wrong way in the movie only listened to violence and in the end Jake gives up his humanity completely. Apparently we're all connected...except humans. They suck.
And name a story that's not from 'another side' nowadays. Green Zone? Iraqis are the heroes. How to Train? Dragons are the heroes.
We don't know the human side. All we hear is the other.
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear Didn't see Green Zone. But How To Train Your Dragon isn't about humans being bad, it's about humans misunderstanding, and then coming to accept. That's a redemptive story for the humans. And the humans are totally justified in fighting the invading Dragons from their perspective.
Yes, you're right, the humans were NOT connected. They refused to believe in the connection, and therefore had to go. The humans that DID believe stayed. Nothing wrong with that.
chillyche 1 year ago
@chillyche
Actually in How to Train the vikings do exactly what the hero later proposes. But when he does it its good. When they do it its bad. Some people are just always wrong because of who they are.
Also the hero screams at one point 'I'm not one of them!' to the dragons. Like Jake her heroically betrays his people.
I find it ironic how someone like you probably unhappy with Iraq because it suggests inequality and control, supports the inequality and control imposed in Avatar.
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
Pocahontas + Halo + Smurfs = Avatar ....
carlosmb16 1 year ago
Someone should do an Avatar and Avatar: The Last Airbender trailer recut crossover thing :3
icyclaw123 1 year ago
i would choose Pocahontas over Avatar any day! :^)
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levyonn 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Pocahontas isn't from Disney, you idiots!
It is a true story. Therefore, nobody is copying anyone. And Disney is known for
copying many animes like: "Lion King" = "Kimba, The White Lion". Search in Google: Kimba "Lion King" and then tell me...
The conquest is normal, it was not invented by Disney. ;)
Ah, and don't forget, Halo copied A LOT from Alien, the movie of James Cameron:
Search this in Google: halo.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_References_to_Aliens_in_Halo
So, who is the copier?
levyonn 1 year ago
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levyonn 1 year ago
Halo halo halo MY GOD UNCHARTED IS BETTER Than halo and avatar!
VeldinJoe 1 year ago
pocahontas + halo == avatar
DBGabriele 1 year ago 5
@DBGabriele
Avatar < Halo and Pocahantas
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago 4
@bloodrunsclear
it's right! (lol)
:D
DBGabriele 1 year ago
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levyonn 1 year ago
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levyonn 1 year ago
perfect
naviadvocate101222 1 year ago
Look up "ferngully" is an animated movie which IS effectively avatar but with fairies
leedsm18 1 year ago
@thereanygoodnameleft OMG I thought he movie would be ok more on the bad side but it was one if the best movies ever if not the best one ever!!! I can't stop thinking about it!! There is no way you can't go see the movie.
yendys1439 1 year ago
@yendys1439
Um...why? Really the movie is boring, the music is trite, the characters are dull, the dialogue is bad, the CGI looks like plastic, the message is ham-handed, the story is barely there and what is has been stolen from better films.
You can't stop thinking about it? Neither can I because I've rarely seen so god-awful, pretentious, sloppily made, lazily written nonsense.
Utter crap.
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago 2
@bloodrunsclear dude if people like the movie thats their buisness thats theirs to share no one needs to hear personal fuckin opinion on why its bad i enjoyed the movie and i thongs it great if you dont have anything nice to say about then dont troll about it on youtube faggot keep your opinions to yourself troll bitch
jizmacdacusha 1 year ago
@jizmacdacusha
Do you have anything not nice to say about Avatar?
Maybe you should stop your blind praise and allow people like me to keep our opinion which, according to you, is my own business.
Also lets see you're writing a comment only to insult me and attack me.
That would make you...a troll wouldn't it?
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear I'll give you that about the story. But, the CGI was great. How much do you know about CGI?
vinthebeast 1 year ago
@vinthebeast
I know what looks good and what doesn't being an avid gamer. To me Up looked better because it didn't stray into the uncanny valley and seemed more consistent. The vehicles looked great, the actors looked find up close, but far away it looked so unrealistic it was jarring.
Then again I might have forgiven it if I was SO DAMN BORED!
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@bloodrunsclear I see what you mean. I can agree to an extent. The Uncanny Valley is the biggest problem right now, but I think the fact that these characters are not trying to look human helps.
vinthebeast 1 year ago
@vinthebeast
I guess so but when Jake says 'It seems more real out there then back at the base' (or something) I didn't buy it for a minute XD
bloodrunsclear 1 year ago
@yendys1439 nah.....:P
thereanygoodnameleft 1 year ago
My film prof mentioned this video in class today and I just had to look it up. Even though I liked both movies, I'm so tired of seeing the same "savior" story played out. Great job mashing the two. It was perfect.
monuorah 1 year ago
@monuorah I was critical of the great white savior of the natives too, after seeing the film. A Seneca friend of mine flipped it for me, though. He suggested an alternate reading wherein it is not Jake that saves the Na'vi, but rather the Na'vi that save Jake. Usually, I would write it off as the "mystical natives" trope, but when actual indigenous people read it as positive, I have to get off my analytical high horse for a second. Also, unlike Smith, Jake doesn't get to keep his privilege.
chillyche 1 year ago
@chillyche
First off, let me say that I'd get a happy feeling in my chest too if a white guy was actually portrayed positively in a movie, but that's a knee jerk reaction. It doesn't mean the film was any good.
Second of all, Jake DOES get to keep his privilege. He gives up that nasty humanity thing, becomes leader, still