i used to have OCD about lies and corners, like when ever i walked on the sidewalk i HAD to step with my right foot over one line and with my left foot over the other and so on. also when there was a corner of a wall i always had to step over the corner like there was an invisible line. but got over it :)
The diagnoses of non-psychotic "mental illnesses" like OCD, SAD, GAD etc are needed because we often don't want to face unravelling the reasons ourselves. It's much simpler to receive a diagnosis. People get very attached to it as a focal point for explaning things.
Interesting paradox how people will fight to defend their illnesses. Myself included.
This how we seem to solve our problems in the West now. People aren't being creative enough in my view. We limit and determine ourselves.
I had OCD in high school for a few years. It was very real and it didn't feel that I had any control over it at all. One day, I was checking the water faucet for the millionth time when, I had a thought, why am I doing this? It doesn't make any sense and that was the end of my OCD. It's real until it isn't real any more.
I feel it is a disease in that it explains my thinking outside of the majority of people. Its a disease just like someone with a stroke functions different then the average person in their way of speech and body movements after the stroke. With OCD my brain gives me different instructions then the average person's brain would. I agree with this doctor though that not everything OCD has to be treated as harmful. Some traits are good public habits as long as they are not damaging our lives.
Here's crazy: Dr. Breeding seems to be much more credible with a nice hair cut and trimmed beard. I like my OCD especially when it gets channeled into cleaning.
holding in your emotions cause's mental illness that probably sums up some of the stuff he says.
dont stay mad at people who disapoint you your causing mental illness by holding in your emotions and your makeing the person your mad at feel horrible as well as you always find a good way to get your horrible emotions out.
@13Xanadu your strawman arguing and your outta your league. obviously substances and chemicals wil alter the neurological make up of a brain; i.e. sniffing glue. nobody is saying that chemicals don't destroy brain function. what im saying is the diagnosis 'chemical imbalance' is a scam these nazis(psychiatrist) declare before poisoning the naive 'patient' with suicide-provoking medications. Do some research on FACTS before you make a imbecilic argument with no merit.
@13Xanadu a psychiatrist does NOT do a neuro-diagnostic before stigmatizing and then poisoning you. If you believe in academia consensus' then it is you who is the devout crackpot/fucking idiot, stuck in xanadu
@13Xanadu it is u my friend that denies science. i know how extremely advanced they really are while u believe its science fiction; and you think science fiction like 'chemical imbalances' to be reality. i know most ppl dont have the courage 2 admit when wrong so i expect you will cling to the 'chemical imbalance' dogma with absolutely proof. someone u view as an authority figure will tell u whats the truth and u will believe it without question or investigation in accordance with ur programming
@13Xanadu obviously not. scientology is NOT the antithesis to the totalitarian mental heath secter. scientology and the psychiatric community are 1 and the same and theyre using the discredited name of scientology to discredit psychology knowing that the cooky name of scientology will stain any legitimate resistance to psychodomy. its what is known as a psy-op being carried out by the psychological community. wake up and pay attention as much as u can, but get drunk instead cuz resistence futile
This guy is a Scientologist, they denounce the whole psychiatric profession. So stop this video and walk away, the bloke is a nutter who is biting the hand that fed him.
It is completely unnecessary to have a Ph.D. to understand psychology. Unfortunately, in this 'Seclorum' age, the Ph.D. is the priesthood and those who adhere to establishment edicts are the congregation; therefore dogma is now propagated through Ph.D's as scientific fact. Dr. Breeding is a wise man, and its a godsend that he's 'ordained' to have a 'pulpit' to preach his wisdom, without an overblown ego dependent on big pharma. He is genuinely dispassionate, very insightful and I thank him.
I actually don't see a Ph.D as scientific fact. I find it really hard to believe though that an entire profession is one big lie and that psychiatrists are really just legal con artists. I may as well believe the same thing about podiatrists, electricians and scientists. If you would like to prove your case, at least please give me something to read, some evidence to back up your claim. I am open to your ideas but I cannot work on nothing.
@CybernautZero Breeding has good answers to all ur questions including the purpose of psychiatry being control. If global dominion is a bridge game psychiatry is trump . Ive never seen a schizo recover with pills. Benzo's do suppress anxiety(at a price) the others r shit. Most mental illness is not observable like a tumor, and the diagnosis is subject to the 'expert'. They dressed u up in the 'invalid costume' and u played the role. u r a victim of this brutal crime and rely on the perp 4 help.
It kills me how these doctors that don't have these problems tell everyone how it all really is. Their not the experts , people that live everyday with these disorders are the real experts . Mr Breeding doesn't know as much as he thinks he does about this and other disorders IMO and i disagree with alot of what he says.
The thing with this video is that it is that his thinking is too black and white. OCD has it's positive side, but can also be debilitating.I know because I suffer with it. Unless Dr. John Breeding (who probably got his PhD from a cereal box) has OCD, he can't say much about it. His "research" doesn't mean anything to others or myself, people that actually live with OCD every minute of their lives and are tortured by it on a daily basis.
@CybernautZero If you paid attention to everything he said, instead of selective hearing, you would have heard him state that there are circumstances that are negative and require some kind of help. what he is saying is that these abstract tendencies often(and inhumanely) get rubber stamped as a 'disease', and that the pejorative labeling and pharmacological lobotomy-first responses should be a last resort, if resorted to at all. IDIOTS may think his Ph.D is undeserved but the opposite is true.
I understand that sometimes stupid people call differences a disease, when they are just individual characteristics. But this guy is on the total other side of the spectrum. He obviously does not have OCD nor does he understand it. OCD in fact, becomes OCD only when it causes the actual sufferer distress and interferes with life.How do I know this? I am an OCD sufferer and it badly affected me. I am glad I got the help I needed.Don't talk to me about something I know alot about.
@CybernautZero The human mind is awesome! The power of the subconscious is so powerful, that when it has complete and unwaivering faith, it can achieve things over the entire body that many misconstrue for divinity. I've had one of the most extremes of OCD and it's really just a manifestation of a stress induced neurosis. Due to your psychologically conditioned 'faith' in doctors, your subconscious reacts to the dr.'s suggestions and fixes the problem you believe the placebo(meds) remedies.
The drugs help only to a degree, they were never a remedy. I never said they were. That's why I am working in conjuction with a psychologist. I never thought meds would cure me, since OCD, I believe is actually something complex. I think it is a mixture of my mental wiring and my past experiences. Learning about OCD and how it works helps alot with dealing with it. Where is your evidence that I should be paranoid?
Why should I be so distrustful of everything? If I must distrust doctors, then I can't trust anyone. Why should I be so distrustful of an entire profession? If I can't trust doctors, why should I trust medical doctors, why should I trust even the seemingly most trust worthy? Should I just condemn myself to a life of paranoia and madness?
I do know that the human mind is awesome, but at the same time, it is also quite easy to believe that it can fail or develop problems like any other body part. People are born with heart problems, people are born with predispositions to certain problems, like cancer, heart disease so on and so forth, what's to say the same thing won't happen with the human brain, it is just another organ, created from imperfect DNA.
Honestly, this guy is a nutjob. I don't like his ideas. They help no one. Sure, I like the fact that he can acknowledge the differences in people. I have some eccentric character traits, but at the same time I can admit I have a problem that needs remedy because it AFFECTS my life drastically. OCD makes me who I am, but at the same time, it is something I need to learn how to deal with. And I have. The best treatment for OCD is CBT with medication anyway.
If you yourself have OCD, and it is affecting your life. I don't mean you have character traits that are different to what people call normal. I mean if you actually have this fear based disease that is affecting your life and causing distress I think you should stop lying to yourself and seek help the help of a psychologist IMMEDIATELY, that specializes in Anxiety disorders and does CBT.
The main thing Supplanter111, when deciding if it is OCD, is to ask yourself this simple question: Does it make my life a living hell? If it does, see a psychologist, if it doesn't, you might just be different, and I think that's cool.
The thing is, people only look at so called mental disorders through a negative lens. We all know they can cause problems, but they also make you and I who we are. We are particular and passionate about things. We are unlike some other people. We are "nerds". And there is nothing wrong with it, be proud of it. We have greater focus than other people. And people with OCD tend to be highly intelligent, they tend to have complex thought patterns. We are different, but it's good.
if u have any patients i feel sorry for them...... until u have ocd dont try and put it down, u can read as many books you want, without having the feeling you dont and never will understand.....
all of you who have it as much as I do, you have to take yourself to somewhere calm, take a bath or watch tv, the main cause for OCD is stress and you guys freaking out on what he is saying is stressing you out, it is not a disease, everybody has ocd in some way, touching a wall 8 10 12 times is your way of coping with stress, you have to learn to take a breather and you wont touch that wall so much if you believe you only have to touch it 5 times to relax.
@charlenekarras it isnt caused by stress,not a single tudy connects it to stress,anxiety with a specific focus isnt stress.Clinical OCD is quiite rare,being obsessive in personality isnt OCD.Reducing stress does not cure it,if it did people would be hospitalised with it and waste milliions of dollars per year.
he saying if you learn to embrace it, you wont keep digging a deeper hole for yourself, dont you guys get it, if you acknowledge it it wont keep surfacing. relax and it wont be so freakin bad. Thats the cure for OCD you have to relax learn to calm down OCD is anxiety, the cure is to relax about it, dont worry okay
@charlenekarras relaxing wont do anything by itself,the only successful therapy for it is cbt and meds work well for some people but isnt permanent.Theres rarely a cure for any mental illness,just control.
This guy lacks even the basic understanding of OCD this is a joke is so scary that the guy calls himself a psychologist please never again let this quack near a patient or a camera for that matter!!!
Because some other doctors said it exists and try to sell you pills to cure it, that argument holds more water than, perhaps, since there is undoubtedly a natural cause, there could be a natural cure?
People can't learn to cope, and let go of, their self-destructive obsessions? The only answer to that problem is pills? And they aren't human problems, they are "disorders?"
littleflower-Just watch the video on youtube called MEET YOUR MEAT by Alec Baldwin & then you will see something outside of yourself that will cause you to forget about yourself.Don"t be a coward & watch it to the end.
this made me realize that what I thought was a phobia towards chocolate ( that I suffered all my life ) may be an OCD towards hating chocolate instead.
Thoughts?.... is phobia also a non illness?? .... I know is all in my head but cant stop my self from doing exreme things to stay away from chocolate. .... help!
Part 2-The anxiety caused by the repetitive constant "stuck record "thinking was literally too much.t bear. To get to the place Dr. Breeding is discussing is possible for me only now because of the high dosage of meds and the length of time needed. I would never even be close to doing itwere it not for Luvox... I disagree with his assertion that there is nothing physical involved --just thinking...recent MRI's of children with OCD have shown differences in their brains from others.
I must say that with the first video I was having a hard time accepting what Dr. Breeding was saying and really disagreed with him. I have OCD. However, with watching the second video that he may be offering valid suggestions and rational approaches. The problem however, is I myself would not be here right now and for the most part a fully functioning human being working on myself if were not for the high doses of Luvox that I have been on for quite sometime. C.B. therapy wasnt enough
do u have thoughts and urges to rape and murder members of ur own family? that is wot ocd is all about and its hell, cheaking doors and washings etc is very tame ocd, i know.!!
Acctualy there are 5 types of OCD and aparently you have checkers and obsessers. I know its hell, I have both of those also. I have a hint that helped me cope with it and I havnt had much of an issue since. Try letting in the thoughts and not fighting back. Doing this gradually will alow your brain to figure out why those images are there. Someone once told me that "If it keeps coming back then there is something that needs to be fixed."
wot a load of shit, i have ocd and its a living hell i don't need someone who has not got it telling me wots it all about,I KNOW WOTS IT ALL ABOUT, the only people who can coment on ocd is people WHO HAVE IT AND THAT IS NOT YOU..
This is amazing, this has probably helped me more then anything Ive ever read before, seriously. I totally agree with what this guy is saying, and I think I have more solutions now as to how I can get rid of my own problems. Such interesting ideas are brought forward here, and things that people should be thinking about. Our society is too comfortable with relying on things like medication and quick ways to fix problems without communicating properly...
Yae man, forgert about all dat madication bull. it only makes u worse. even thow i hv never taken any. jus try not to think about it. and focus on wats infront of u. forget the past, look towords the feature.
this is the most since about O.C.D that i hv hered. most of these guys talk about O.C.D like they no wats goes on in people lifes with O.C.D. but this man. talks like he has lived the life od O.C.D. because every think he said is wat goes threw my mind, because i hv this disorder for about 2/5 yrs. and never seek help because of embarrasment. and wat people wud think. but i learn to controll all of my obsession by my self. but there allways a new 1. it not a desease. just me i hv it.
I second your disagreement Shata17, I too am a sufferer from this VERY real disorder. Short note, doctor says you don't have OCD because it's just a psychiatric label, a label derived from big pharma's need/doctors need to profit/treat patient. BUT, I must say that REAL RESEARCH SUGGESTS BOLDLY that OCD is a chemical issue in the brain, where the brain overheats in a certain area and misfires/ or is not allowed to transition from one thought pattern to the next. Shata17, don't give up.
From reading and contemplating the subject, I actually think that OCD is a mixture of the nature of the OCD brain, and what we experience in life itself. I would say it's a mixture of hardware(our brain, a computer) and software(life expereinces). I grew up in a strict religious upbringing, and it did not help my OCD at all. In fact I have major problems with guilt because of my upbringing and OCD.
Don't give up because you're embarassed. When I was diagnosed with OCD initially I didn't believe it, then I after a few days I started to recognize my cognitive habitual patterns. So then I realized that this OCD thing that I had was real. Then after experimenting with perscriptions, I started to feel a differnce in my ability to think clearly, manage emotions better, actually let go of thoughts and move onto new thoughts instantly, it was like my brain was being turned back on. This was suffic
It's funnny u say dat because i had hv OCD for 3 years now, and only found out a year ago wat OCD was. i thought i was crazy and never told anyone about my issue. i use to tocuh the door handle more than 20 times for d day because i thought it wud make me safer. but i start to ting to my self. how does this help me. and thought it was stupid and stop. MY OCD is crazy, i thought i was the only person with this problem. but now i now millions of people hv it,
He is totally right. Look for the real cause: or as he says ...
You have to get to the feelings and hurts underneath. Will stop the control pattern. Confront the pattern.
As Dr M Scott Peck says, 95% of all mental afflictions come from overbearing primary carers eg parents and (I would add, where the parents have not compensated here) the associated environments of the person growing up.
With all due respect, his theories have never shown any efficacy in the treatment of OCD. Psychodynamic therapies do nothing for OCD sufferers. Coginitive Behavioral Therapy, in which the the OCD patient gradually confronts the fears without indulging in rituals has shown great efficacy in reducing if not eliminating symptoms.CBT involves NO analysis of the problem itself or any sort of underlying cause, and it in fact discourages such approaches as that can make OCD WORSE.
For the irrational sort, maybe. But it's the easy way out for the lazy doctor. It also may depend on the intelligence of the sufferer. A less intelligent person, just try the exposure.
Do you have any evidence that psychodynamic theories have any benefit for the sufferer? Do you even understand the nature of what OCD is? Many OCD themes cause the person to analyze the problem several times over. Are you honestly suggesting that thinking about the problem MORE is going to somehow solve it? Furthermore, unless psychodynamic therapy produces quicker or better results, I don't see how using exposures is 'lazy' if it produces the same or better results faster.
@nosferotica1 I cannot quite follow the tone of your comment. Do you have OCD yourself? I've been on SSRI's for about two months now, and I while I still have issues, I can safely say that those pills have restored a good portion of my sanity.
And when they decide to switch them up, she has to spend a few days in the hospital so they can "monitor" the change.
I don't know about you, but that scares the fuck out of me.
The tone of my post is this: I make more money selling you pills than I do actually solving your problems. Let's roll out these temporary solutions until the day you die, we have summer homes to pay for.
Actually, pills are not the preferred treatment. In my case, my OCD got so severe that they had to put me on pills to get me stablized to attempt treatment. Most therapists prefer not to use pills if possible in the treatment of OCD. In fact, it was my psychologist, who cannot prescribe anything, who recommended I go. She makes no money and has no motive.
As for your mother, I have no idea what she is on, but we clearly are not on the same medication. I'm on generic paxil and buspar. My prescriptions cost me less than $20 a month without insurance. I'm sorry your mother is having such issues with her meds, but I have yet to see anything from you that demonstrates that medication doesn't work or that there is a superior therapy.
Well, just like dude in this video said, you can not scan someone's brain and say "Right there is the OCD," or "Right there is the ADD," or even "Right there is the depression."
Meaning if you can't see it, it must've been pulled out of someone's ass, especially since they are trying to link OCD biologically to strep.
Yes. Strep.
It's bullshit as far as I can tell, especially since growing up I was told I had a chem. imbalance.
Except their is a minor problem with your argument. Just because we cannot directly observe the physiological causes of any of these disorders does not mean they do not exist. We can observe the behavior that disorders cause, and we can listen to patients describe both the emotional and practical disruptions such disorders cause.
By your logic, though, memories also do not exist since we cannot observe them in the brain.
Furthermore, we can also observe the effect medications have on patients. Why does your mother continue to take medication if it doesn't actually work? I wouldn't take the medication if it didn't do anything for me.
Also, no doctor convinced me I had a problem. I KNEW I had a problem when I would spend almost all day everyday racked with anxiety to the point where I couldn't leave my house.
Your opinion on whether or not the medication is helping your mother has little if any bearing as to the efficacy of such medication for most situations. You cannot extrapolate from one or two patients what the effects on everyone will be.
On a different note, why do you think the medication isn't helping your mother? Has her behavior not changed that you can observe? Is she having bad side effects?
I think the proof of that can be found when innocent children as young as four develop these symptoms. They are not aware of Dr. Breeding's mumbo-jumbo feelings theory, and still exhibit clear signs of obsessive-compulsive disorder.
You think a 4 year old doesn't feel anything if he/she happens to "wish" his/her parents were dead because they sent him to sleep without watching TV? Or are kids robots? Not being able to remember your own feelings at 4 does not mean you don't have them.
I disagree...people experience emotions from the moment they are born,surely?? and from age two upwards you are emotionally developed enough to develop the same emotional problems causing things like OCD as an adult.
...well thats exactly what the people who believe it is a disease (real psychologists) think should be done as well. They just dont give sufferers of OCD a guilt trip, added to their already heavy load, and blame all their sensations and difficulties on their inability to just allow those feelings to be expressed. Its not that easy and it is, in many cases, a very real and relentless DISEASE. (cont...)
Because, funnily enough, what he was describing was CBT, re-worded into his idealistic and naïve interpretation of how to treat obsessive behavior. CBT is about relinquishing your control pattern by interrupting it. You see what happens when you dont do that (compulsions), and then sit with the fear, anger, anxiety, etc. He says, decide to confront it gently and let it feel like the world is going to fall apart if I dont count to ten again (cont...)
Blaming everything on "fear" and an inability to let oneself flow with the nature of things does not hold, and anyone who knows or has witnessed how life can be eaten up by OCD understands that. I wonder if he is against Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) too or just medication? (From the sounds of it, he believes all forms of psychiatric treatment are not needed for people suffering from this supposed "disease".)
I see his point about over-mediation of youth in America these days. But this "psychologist" who runs his counseling practice in Texas I fear has never dealt with a child truly afflicted with OCD. And if he has, I feel for the poor child who had to listen to his harsh words disguised in his seemingly calm and irksome tone. (cont...)
Wow, this guy spent the entire time NOT talking about OCD. I have heard lots of doctors talk about diseases like OCD and this guy was talking out his ass. He's like Doctor Phil, but even more nonsensical.
I suggest you make a vid on The Myth of mental Illness, paraphrase Szars to your heart's content, indulge some extreme nominalism, & then when you make a vid on OCD, you can make a reference to it.
That way you can actually talk about OCD in your OCD vid.
There was very little value in both those vids (pretty much none in the first one & about 2-3 mins on how to cope with OCD in this one).
You're making lots of sense Prof. . It definitely potentially empowers we OCD/anxiety/???? dudes to look at the root cause, rather than the symptoms. For years I've simply tried to ignore my anxiety..it works, except when it doesn't !!!!
The comment below about Lance Armstrong is elegantly true..I know a few musos & artists & professional sportmen who would definitely meet the OCD measurements..if they were in fact applied to them, which of course they ain't. Again, nice work Prof. Merci !!!!!
I agree with the view that in some cases, OCD may be controlled/eliminated by confronting whatever it is that pre-empts the behavior...it's definitely worth a shot as a treatment. However, I don't see a real problem with calling OCD a disease...whatever you call it, it obviously can have a profoiund effect on an individuals's life.
I started counting under my breath when I was around 8 years old, as well as other compulsive baheaviour, and by 18 year old, anxiety was my fulltime companion.
There is a reason why you order yourself to wash your hands more than the average person. It's not like being worried about taking the garbage out or picking your kids up from school. OCD is a proven neurological disorder. If you deny this, and write it off as some esoteric quirk of your own doing, you're in for a lifetime of hurt my friend.
dr breeding and all his colleagues r no doubt onto something with the trauma model of mental distress...this disease model is extremely damaging and is jus down right wrong....dr breeding is the shiznat
i jus wrote an email to dr breeding...in the email i described how ive been feeling and for sum reason felt very comfortable revealing sum extremely personal things to him....( i guess thats a testimant to his compassionate nature)...i sent him this email and the next day the man sent me back a response ...it was a very simple response but it was very comforting and filled with sincere human compassion....this man is the real deal
You learn behaviours throughout life and OCD (which I suffer from) is one of those things that you learn/develop throughout your life (as I believe) so therefore its not genetic or passed down but yes of course it is physical, but it can be changed with thought alone.
But at least you're in the habit of putting down old ones and dealing with them, instead of having a heaping plate of shit that keeps mounting more and more.
i had referred to someone "checking door knobs" vs. pulling my weeds, or some other productive action. Pulling weeds or yardwork is not a "bad" task/job. It's funny NO one ever "chooses" them..as their "obsession" ..instead they do mundane repative tasks like "door knobs",or touching a vase 17 times before taking 5 steps northward in green shoes,etc,etc As for Lance and Donald ! We NEVER seem to condemn things affiliated with HUGE amounts of money/fame,etc.
serious question here.. Why doesn't someone obsess and compulsively pull the weeds in my yard every day,over an over ? Why is it always something pointless like "checking a doorknob" over an over ? I'm serious about that...
I think the answer to your question is that when people are compulsive about something that is considered good, they don't get labeled. Mozart was compulsive about music, Einstein was compulsive about physics, Donald Trump is compulsive about making money.
Very successful people tend to obsess about the thing that they are successful about. Look at Lance Armstrong, the dude trains hours and hours every day to be the best.
I think what the doctor is trying to stress is that some behavior is only labeled as OCD - or as whatever other name - if the labeling seems convenient to those in the position to do so. Your statement, billysue2, only confirms what the doctor is successfully pointing out. You say their obsessiveness did not cause life disrupting anxiety but...
...have you ever thought that maybe that is because it was accepted that their continuous activities could be - as a "normal behavior" and not as a "obsessiveness" - part of their life? It's all about perspective and who calls the shots, really. And doctor, thanks so much for the great insights. Cheers from Brazil!
Actually, in the case of Einstein, it is very likely that he had something in the Autism spectrum, not OCD. The fact that you compare obsessive behavior to OCD demonstrates a lack of understanding about what OCD really is. As someone with OCD and who can also be obsessive, I can tell you that the key difference is anxiety. OCD rituals are performed to relieve anxiety. The behavior of those individuals is the result of passion, which is overall a positive emotion.
or u know i think people recognize this listning to ur own breathing try controling it made me dizzy haha but that didnt botter me or made me crazy or something
OCD is both good and bad. It has to be treated though when it causes problems. I know this because I have OCD. OCD is what makes me the analytical person I am. OCD makes me who I am.
And I have to say, Obsessive people are labelled. They call them "nerds". I am so glad I am one of them. I like being irregular. I get so passionate over things.
OCD seems to be far more about having general anxiety below the surface, or even at the surface, that is broadly spread, which the individual then focuses into certain "fears" or "anxieties" that become obsession, and compulsions are then a way of controlling one's fear, in an odd way. Some are fortunate enough to get out of the O-B pattern and feel ok, others, like myself, are not. Anxiety remains & pops up in a different obsession, or goe b ack into the old one.
I have been with serious OCD. Body checking every 5 minutes. But at this point, Im starting to control it (maybe it can help) is dont fight against the "tought" more you fight, more it will be there.
I actually do not think that obsessive compulsive behaviour is an addiction. We don't do the behaviour because we crave it. We get no satisfaction from it, What we really want is certainty. What we have to do is to try and exist in a world of doubt. If you do that, the OCD may get worse for a bit, but then it will drop.
I think you just have to realise that whatever the circumstances are that create the OCD, can't be controlled by you in any case. To a large extent, you're just like everyone else there, and should make the most of it. But all that takes maturity, patience, confidence, self-sufficiency - these things aren't in everyone in their teens, 20s or even early 30s. A lot of OCDs can be grown out of in time when these traits come forth later in life. For me, I lost both of mine by 28+35 - now i miss them
Or it could be increased knowledge from increased experience. It doesn't have to come from an outside person to the sufferer directly. Also, I don't miss the OCD I had till 28 (the other one I lost spontaneously at 35 was more a general anxiety about something, rather than a behavioural anomaly). And there's the rub - when the sufferer doesnt' want to remember it or have it again, he doesn't need that crutch any more, and discards it. I think I had them because I could lean on or blame them.
as a child i watched on what tile i was walking or i was paying attention on the blinking of my eyes is that ocd? but that wasnt that bad caus it didnt hold on for long sometimes i had no thoughts of it for weeks or when i was in school i didnt thought about it but now im paying attention on my toung all the time really sounds stupid but i cant live normal anymore ....any suggestions
@cirexlab how do you cope with it?? in my case i have recently been diagnose with it and i´ve had these wierd sensations since i was a child.... i have a hard time concentrating!!! I feel anxious and a lot of other things...
Compulsive behavior isn't always something that is necessarily visible or even somethng in which the person who is suffering from OCD disorder is aware. Parents can't always detect what's going on. I feel that your statement that OCD isn't a "disease" is simply wordplay and semantics. Call it what you will. I could care less. But it's there--it's debillitating, horrifying, and sometimes uncontrollable. Call it whatever you want to, but it exists.
It is both good and bad. It makes you who you are, but at the same time, as I do suffer from OCD, I know it is debilitating. Just so you know, there are a lot of pluses to OCD too. We tend to be very creative and intelligent people, capable of complex thought, thereby meaning we are able to understand certain concepts that others would have trouble with.
Well than whatever you current treatment plan is, it hasn't cured it. You might want to open your mind to the possibility of alternative forms of mental health treatment.
Thank You for telling the truth. This movement will take a long time. What needs to be dealt with is the understanding of "inherant nature" which our society has suppressed for centuries. You use the term casually yet the masses have several progammatic thoughts of what nature is. Western religion just calls it "bad",
Everytime I think of OCD I think of Death the Kid =.=
MK98ification 6 months ago
Meanwhile, real people are *suffering* to an extreme degree because of their OCD. Your response? "Eh, get over. It's just in your head"...
OccasionallyBearded 6 months ago
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ocdmesh 6 months ago
i used to have OCD about lies and corners, like when ever i walked on the sidewalk i HAD to step with my right foot over one line and with my left foot over the other and so on. also when there was a corner of a wall i always had to step over the corner like there was an invisible line. but got over it :)
kitten123t 6 months ago
Boring
MattFearnoTx 7 months ago
ASSTITS
MattFearnoTx 7 months ago
SAPAP3, Oh no gene link?
Maxtcarson 8 months ago
The diagnoses of non-psychotic "mental illnesses" like OCD, SAD, GAD etc are needed because we often don't want to face unravelling the reasons ourselves. It's much simpler to receive a diagnosis. People get very attached to it as a focal point for explaning things.
Interesting paradox how people will fight to defend their illnesses. Myself included.
This how we seem to solve our problems in the West now. People aren't being creative enough in my view. We limit and determine ourselves.
jazzmunky 11 months ago 2
I had OCD in high school for a few years. It was very real and it didn't feel that I had any control over it at all. One day, I was checking the water faucet for the millionth time when, I had a thought, why am I doing this? It doesn't make any sense and that was the end of my OCD. It's real until it isn't real any more.
missguiltfree 11 months ago 4
His theories are questionable.
CanadaGuy80 1 year ago 5
@CanadaGuy80 There is something to criticize in every theory.
mayaboldyrlol 7 months ago
I feel it is a disease in that it explains my thinking outside of the majority of people. Its a disease just like someone with a stroke functions different then the average person in their way of speech and body movements after the stroke. With OCD my brain gives me different instructions then the average person's brain would. I agree with this doctor though that not everything OCD has to be treated as harmful. Some traits are good public habits as long as they are not damaging our lives.
Gowalum 1 year ago
Here's crazy: Dr. Breeding seems to be much more credible with a nice hair cut and trimmed beard. I like my OCD especially when it gets channeled into cleaning.
MonacoBlast 1 year ago
holding in your emotions cause's mental illness that probably sums up some of the stuff he says.
dont stay mad at people who disapoint you your causing mental illness by holding in your emotions and your makeing the person your mad at feel horrible as well as you always find a good way to get your horrible emotions out.
Towelman20 1 year ago
@13Xanadu your strawman arguing and your outta your league. obviously substances and chemicals wil alter the neurological make up of a brain; i.e. sniffing glue. nobody is saying that chemicals don't destroy brain function. what im saying is the diagnosis 'chemical imbalance' is a scam these nazis(psychiatrist) declare before poisoning the naive 'patient' with suicide-provoking medications. Do some research on FACTS before you make a imbecilic argument with no merit.
supplanter111 1 year ago
@13Xanadu a psychiatrist does NOT do a neuro-diagnostic before stigmatizing and then poisoning you. If you believe in academia consensus' then it is you who is the devout crackpot/fucking idiot, stuck in xanadu
supplanter111 1 year ago
@13Xanadu it is u my friend that denies science. i know how extremely advanced they really are while u believe its science fiction; and you think science fiction like 'chemical imbalances' to be reality. i know most ppl dont have the courage 2 admit when wrong so i expect you will cling to the 'chemical imbalance' dogma with absolutely proof. someone u view as an authority figure will tell u whats the truth and u will believe it without question or investigation in accordance with ur programming
supplanter111 1 year ago
@13Xanadu obviously not. scientology is NOT the antithesis to the totalitarian mental heath secter. scientology and the psychiatric community are 1 and the same and theyre using the discredited name of scientology to discredit psychology knowing that the cooky name of scientology will stain any legitimate resistance to psychodomy. its what is known as a psy-op being carried out by the psychological community. wake up and pay attention as much as u can, but get drunk instead cuz resistence futile
supplanter111 1 year ago
This guy is a Scientologist, they denounce the whole psychiatric profession. So stop this video and walk away, the bloke is a nutter who is biting the hand that fed him.
birdman3120 1 year ago
@birdman3120 ur an agent and by the way you write im guessing a female or a real femine man.
supplanter111 1 year ago
It is completely unnecessary to have a Ph.D. to understand psychology. Unfortunately, in this 'Seclorum' age, the Ph.D. is the priesthood and those who adhere to establishment edicts are the congregation; therefore dogma is now propagated through Ph.D's as scientific fact. Dr. Breeding is a wise man, and its a godsend that he's 'ordained' to have a 'pulpit' to preach his wisdom, without an overblown ego dependent on big pharma. He is genuinely dispassionate, very insightful and I thank him.
supplanter111 1 year ago
@supplanter111
I actually don't see a Ph.D as scientific fact. I find it really hard to believe though that an entire profession is one big lie and that psychiatrists are really just legal con artists. I may as well believe the same thing about podiatrists, electricians and scientists. If you would like to prove your case, at least please give me something to read, some evidence to back up your claim. I am open to your ideas but I cannot work on nothing.
CybernautZero 1 year ago
@CybernautZero Breeding has good answers to all ur questions including the purpose of psychiatry being control. If global dominion is a bridge game psychiatry is trump . Ive never seen a schizo recover with pills. Benzo's do suppress anxiety(at a price) the others r shit. Most mental illness is not observable like a tumor, and the diagnosis is subject to the 'expert'. They dressed u up in the 'invalid costume' and u played the role. u r a victim of this brutal crime and rely on the perp 4 help.
supplanter111 1 year ago
It kills me how these doctors that don't have these problems tell everyone how it all really is. Their not the experts , people that live everyday with these disorders are the real experts . Mr Breeding doesn't know as much as he thinks he does about this and other disorders IMO and i disagree with alot of what he says.
rmkt2 1 year ago
The thing with this video is that it is that his thinking is too black and white. OCD has it's positive side, but can also be debilitating.I know because I suffer with it. Unless Dr. John Breeding (who probably got his PhD from a cereal box) has OCD, he can't say much about it. His "research" doesn't mean anything to others or myself, people that actually live with OCD every minute of their lives and are tortured by it on a daily basis.
CybernautZero 1 year ago
@CybernautZero If you paid attention to everything he said, instead of selective hearing, you would have heard him state that there are circumstances that are negative and require some kind of help. what he is saying is that these abstract tendencies often(and inhumanely) get rubber stamped as a 'disease', and that the pejorative labeling and pharmacological lobotomy-first responses should be a last resort, if resorted to at all. IDIOTS may think his Ph.D is undeserved but the opposite is true.
supplanter111 1 year ago
@supplanter111
I understand that sometimes stupid people call differences a disease, when they are just individual characteristics. But this guy is on the total other side of the spectrum. He obviously does not have OCD nor does he understand it. OCD in fact, becomes OCD only when it causes the actual sufferer distress and interferes with life.How do I know this? I am an OCD sufferer and it badly affected me. I am glad I got the help I needed.Don't talk to me about something I know alot about.
CybernautZero 1 year ago
@CybernautZero The human mind is awesome! The power of the subconscious is so powerful, that when it has complete and unwaivering faith, it can achieve things over the entire body that many misconstrue for divinity. I've had one of the most extremes of OCD and it's really just a manifestation of a stress induced neurosis. Due to your psychologically conditioned 'faith' in doctors, your subconscious reacts to the dr.'s suggestions and fixes the problem you believe the placebo(meds) remedies.
supplanter111 1 year ago
@supplanter111
The drugs help only to a degree, they were never a remedy. I never said they were. That's why I am working in conjuction with a psychologist. I never thought meds would cure me, since OCD, I believe is actually something complex. I think it is a mixture of my mental wiring and my past experiences. Learning about OCD and how it works helps alot with dealing with it. Where is your evidence that I should be paranoid?
CybernautZero 1 year ago
@CybernautZero
Why should I be so distrustful of everything? If I must distrust doctors, then I can't trust anyone. Why should I be so distrustful of an entire profession? If I can't trust doctors, why should I trust medical doctors, why should I trust even the seemingly most trust worthy? Should I just condemn myself to a life of paranoia and madness?
CybernautZero 1 year ago
@supplanter111
I do know that the human mind is awesome, but at the same time, it is also quite easy to believe that it can fail or develop problems like any other body part. People are born with heart problems, people are born with predispositions to certain problems, like cancer, heart disease so on and so forth, what's to say the same thing won't happen with the human brain, it is just another organ, created from imperfect DNA.
CybernautZero 1 year ago
@supplanter111
Honestly, this guy is a nutjob. I don't like his ideas. They help no one. Sure, I like the fact that he can acknowledge the differences in people. I have some eccentric character traits, but at the same time I can admit I have a problem that needs remedy because it AFFECTS my life drastically. OCD makes me who I am, but at the same time, it is something I need to learn how to deal with. And I have. The best treatment for OCD is CBT with medication anyway.
CybernautZero 1 year ago
@supplanter111
If you yourself have OCD, and it is affecting your life. I don't mean you have character traits that are different to what people call normal. I mean if you actually have this fear based disease that is affecting your life and causing distress I think you should stop lying to yourself and seek help the help of a psychologist IMMEDIATELY, that specializes in Anxiety disorders and does CBT.
CybernautZero 1 year ago
@supplanter111
The main thing Supplanter111, when deciding if it is OCD, is to ask yourself this simple question: Does it make my life a living hell? If it does, see a psychologist, if it doesn't, you might just be different, and I think that's cool.
CybernautZero 1 year ago
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supplanter111 1 year ago
The thing is, people only look at so called mental disorders through a negative lens. We all know they can cause problems, but they also make you and I who we are. We are particular and passionate about things. We are unlike some other people. We are "nerds". And there is nothing wrong with it, be proud of it. We have greater focus than other people. And people with OCD tend to be highly intelligent, they tend to have complex thought patterns. We are different, but it's good.
CybernautZero 1 year ago
@CybernautZero you are so correct
MrMitchell1962 1 year ago
@CybernautZero you are so correct i am very particular at work with what i do every thing has to be perfect
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DamnUSlutz 1 year ago
if u have any patients i feel sorry for them...... until u have ocd dont try and put it down, u can read as many books you want, without having the feeling you dont and never will understand.....
ACIDRAIN139 2 years ago
all of you who have it as much as I do, you have to take yourself to somewhere calm, take a bath or watch tv, the main cause for OCD is stress and you guys freaking out on what he is saying is stressing you out, it is not a disease, everybody has ocd in some way, touching a wall 8 10 12 times is your way of coping with stress, you have to learn to take a breather and you wont touch that wall so much if you believe you only have to touch it 5 times to relax.
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charlenekarras 2 years ago
@charlenekarras right on dude...i couldnt agree more
toolkills 1 year ago
@charlenekarras it isnt caused by stress,not a single tudy connects it to stress,anxiety with a specific focus isnt stress.Clinical OCD is quiite rare,being obsessive in personality isnt OCD.Reducing stress does not cure it,if it did people would be hospitalised with it and waste milliions of dollars per year.
billysue2 1 year ago
he saying if you learn to embrace it, you wont keep digging a deeper hole for yourself, dont you guys get it, if you acknowledge it it wont keep surfacing. relax and it wont be so freakin bad. Thats the cure for OCD you have to relax learn to calm down OCD is anxiety, the cure is to relax about it, dont worry okay
charlenekarras 2 years ago
@charlenekarras relaxing wont do anything by itself,the only successful therapy for it is cbt and meds work well for some people but isnt permanent.Theres rarely a cure for any mental illness,just control.
billysue2 1 year ago
This guy lacks even the basic understanding of OCD this is a joke is so scary that the guy calls himself a psychologist please never again let this quack near a patient or a camera for that matter!!!
discoveryislanddotca 2 years ago
@discoveryislanddotca
Because some other doctors said it exists and try to sell you pills to cure it, that argument holds more water than, perhaps, since there is undoubtedly a natural cause, there could be a natural cure?
People can't learn to cope, and let go of, their self-destructive obsessions? The only answer to that problem is pills? And they aren't human problems, they are "disorders?"
The USSR loved psychology also, you know.
nosferotica1 1 year ago
how do you confront if it is your breathing and controlling your breathing? ... i cant control my fear of chocking either in which i can barely eat...
it actually worked to forget about it for a while but its coming back
littleflowwer 2 years ago
littleflower-Just watch the video on youtube called MEET YOUR MEAT by Alec Baldwin & then you will see something outside of yourself that will cause you to forget about yourself.Don"t be a coward & watch it to the end.
coldfreshwater 2 years ago
haha @ 4: 50
hahahahaha. makes me laugh and this laughing is believe is therapuetic
runtubefantasy 2 years ago
I LOVE this video.
please don't ever stop making videos. I will just die if that were to happen,jk.
he reminds me of malculay culkin
hha
runtubefantasy 2 years ago
this made me realize that what I thought was a phobia towards chocolate ( that I suffered all my life ) may be an OCD towards hating chocolate instead.
Thoughts?.... is phobia also a non illness?? .... I know is all in my head but cant stop my self from doing exreme things to stay away from chocolate. .... help!
redwingowls 2 years ago
You could try Tony Robbins' approach of getting into a high emotional state and repeatedly linking a word like safe or good to chocolate??
truthgroove 2 years ago
Dr Breeding delivers
xplodetrain 2 years ago
Research Studies in OCD verses Medication Use show BOTH are EQUAL in effectiveness. One is NOT better than the other!
Choose your medicine-CBT or Medication?
1wisdomseeker 2 years ago 2
Part 2-The anxiety caused by the repetitive constant "stuck record "thinking was literally too much.t bear. To get to the place Dr. Breeding is discussing is possible for me only now because of the high dosage of meds and the length of time needed. I would never even be close to doing itwere it not for Luvox... I disagree with his assertion that there is nothing physical involved --just thinking...recent MRI's of children with OCD have shown differences in their brains from others.
meinmyworld 2 years ago
I must say that with the first video I was having a hard time accepting what Dr. Breeding was saying and really disagreed with him. I have OCD. However, with watching the second video that he may be offering valid suggestions and rational approaches. The problem however, is I myself would not be here right now and for the most part a fully functioning human being working on myself if were not for the high doses of Luvox that I have been on for quite sometime. C.B. therapy wasnt enough
meinmyworld 2 years ago
do u have thoughts and urges to rape and murder members of ur own family? that is wot ocd is all about and its hell, cheaking doors and washings etc is very tame ocd, i know.!!
showar54 2 years ago
Acctualy there are 5 types of OCD and aparently you have checkers and obsessers. I know its hell, I have both of those also. I have a hint that helped me cope with it and I havnt had much of an issue since. Try letting in the thoughts and not fighting back. Doing this gradually will alow your brain to figure out why those images are there. Someone once told me that "If it keeps coming back then there is something that needs to be fixed."
maroon5lvr28 2 years ago
wot a load of shit, i have ocd and its a living hell i don't need someone who has not got it telling me wots it all about,I KNOW WOTS IT ALL ABOUT, the only people who can coment on ocd is people WHO HAVE IT AND THAT IS NOT YOU..
showar54 2 years ago
This is amazing, this has probably helped me more then anything Ive ever read before, seriously. I totally agree with what this guy is saying, and I think I have more solutions now as to how I can get rid of my own problems. Such interesting ideas are brought forward here, and things that people should be thinking about. Our society is too comfortable with relying on things like medication and quick ways to fix problems without communicating properly...
theorah 2 years ago
Yae man, forgert about all dat madication bull. it only makes u worse. even thow i hv never taken any. jus try not to think about it. and focus on wats infront of u. forget the past, look towords the feature.
shata17 2 years ago
this is the most since about O.C.D that i hv hered. most of these guys talk about O.C.D like they no wats goes on in people lifes with O.C.D. but this man. talks like he has lived the life od O.C.D. because every think he said is wat goes threw my mind, because i hv this disorder for about 2/5 yrs. and never seek help because of embarrasment. and wat people wud think. but i learn to controll all of my obsession by my self. but there allways a new 1. it not a desease. just me i hv it.
shata17 2 years ago
I second your disagreement Shata17, I too am a sufferer from this VERY real disorder. Short note, doctor says you don't have OCD because it's just a psychiatric label, a label derived from big pharma's need/doctors need to profit/treat patient. BUT, I must say that REAL RESEARCH SUGGESTS BOLDLY that OCD is a chemical issue in the brain, where the brain overheats in a certain area and misfires/ or is not allowed to transition from one thought pattern to the next. Shata17, don't give up.
rhaight2007 2 years ago
@rhaight2007
From reading and contemplating the subject, I actually think that OCD is a mixture of the nature of the OCD brain, and what we experience in life itself. I would say it's a mixture of hardware(our brain, a computer) and software(life expereinces). I grew up in a strict religious upbringing, and it did not help my OCD at all. In fact I have major problems with guilt because of my upbringing and OCD.
CybernautZero 1 year ago
Don't give up because you're embarassed. When I was diagnosed with OCD initially I didn't believe it, then I after a few days I started to recognize my cognitive habitual patterns. So then I realized that this OCD thing that I had was real. Then after experimenting with perscriptions, I started to feel a differnce in my ability to think clearly, manage emotions better, actually let go of thoughts and move onto new thoughts instantly, it was like my brain was being turned back on. This was suffic
rhaight2007 2 years ago
It's funnny u say dat because i had hv OCD for 3 years now, and only found out a year ago wat OCD was. i thought i was crazy and never told anyone about my issue. i use to tocuh the door handle more than 20 times for d day because i thought it wud make me safer. but i start to ting to my self. how does this help me. and thought it was stupid and stop. MY OCD is crazy, i thought i was the only person with this problem. but now i now millions of people hv it,
shata17 2 years ago
I wish I could sit infront of Dr Breeding for ever and just listen to him talk. I am a sponge and Im loving every second.
Thank you.
skjaldmaer 2 years ago
He is totally right. Look for the real cause: or as he says ...
You have to get to the feelings and hurts underneath. Will stop the control pattern. Confront the pattern.
As Dr M Scott Peck says, 95% of all mental afflictions come from overbearing primary carers eg parents and (I would add, where the parents have not compensated here) the associated environments of the person growing up.
livegems 2 years ago 2
With all due respect, his theories have never shown any efficacy in the treatment of OCD. Psychodynamic therapies do nothing for OCD sufferers. Coginitive Behavioral Therapy, in which the the OCD patient gradually confronts the fears without indulging in rituals has shown great efficacy in reducing if not eliminating symptoms.CBT involves NO analysis of the problem itself or any sort of underlying cause, and it in fact discourages such approaches as that can make OCD WORSE.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
For the irrational sort, maybe. But it's the easy way out for the lazy doctor. It also may depend on the intelligence of the sufferer. A less intelligent person, just try the exposure.
truthgroove 2 years ago
Do you have any evidence that psychodynamic theories have any benefit for the sufferer? Do you even understand the nature of what OCD is? Many OCD themes cause the person to analyze the problem several times over. Are you honestly suggesting that thinking about the problem MORE is going to somehow solve it? Furthermore, unless psychodynamic therapy produces quicker or better results, I don't see how using exposures is 'lazy' if it produces the same or better results faster.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
@VigilanteNighthawk
You obsess over a problem you don't have an answer to. And instead of looking for an answer, I give you pills.
You're welcome.
nosferotica1 1 year ago
@nosferotica1 I cannot quite follow the tone of your comment. Do you have OCD yourself? I've been on SSRI's for about two months now, and I while I still have issues, I can safely say that those pills have restored a good portion of my sanity.
VigilanteNighthawk 1 year ago
@VigilanteNighthawk
My mom says the pills are helping her too.
And when they decide to switch them up, she has to spend a few days in the hospital so they can "monitor" the change.
I don't know about you, but that scares the fuck out of me.
The tone of my post is this: I make more money selling you pills than I do actually solving your problems. Let's roll out these temporary solutions until the day you die, we have summer homes to pay for.
nosferotica1 1 year ago
@nosferotica1
Actually, pills are not the preferred treatment. In my case, my OCD got so severe that they had to put me on pills to get me stablized to attempt treatment. Most therapists prefer not to use pills if possible in the treatment of OCD. In fact, it was my psychologist, who cannot prescribe anything, who recommended I go. She makes no money and has no motive.
VigilanteNighthawk 1 year ago
@nosferotica1
As for your mother, I have no idea what she is on, but we clearly are not on the same medication. I'm on generic paxil and buspar. My prescriptions cost me less than $20 a month without insurance. I'm sorry your mother is having such issues with her meds, but I have yet to see anything from you that demonstrates that medication doesn't work or that there is a superior therapy.
VigilanteNighthawk 1 year ago
@VigilanteNighthawk
Well, just like dude in this video said, you can not scan someone's brain and say "Right there is the OCD," or "Right there is the ADD," or even "Right there is the depression."
Meaning if you can't see it, it must've been pulled out of someone's ass, especially since they are trying to link OCD biologically to strep.
Yes. Strep.
It's bullshit as far as I can tell, especially since growing up I was told I had a chem. imbalance.
Must've been misdiagnosed :wank:
nosferotica1 1 year ago
@nosferotica1
Except their is a minor problem with your argument. Just because we cannot directly observe the physiological causes of any of these disorders does not mean they do not exist. We can observe the behavior that disorders cause, and we can listen to patients describe both the emotional and practical disruptions such disorders cause.
By your logic, though, memories also do not exist since we cannot observe them in the brain.
VigilanteNighthawk 1 year ago
@nosferotica1
Furthermore, we can also observe the effect medications have on patients. Why does your mother continue to take medication if it doesn't actually work? I wouldn't take the medication if it didn't do anything for me.
Also, no doctor convinced me I had a problem. I KNEW I had a problem when I would spend almost all day everyday racked with anxiety to the point where I couldn't leave my house.
VigilanteNighthawk 1 year ago
@VigilanteNighthawk
I told you, she thinks it helps. I don't think it does.
nosferotica1 1 year ago
@nosferotica1
Your opinion on whether or not the medication is helping your mother has little if any bearing as to the efficacy of such medication for most situations. You cannot extrapolate from one or two patients what the effects on everyone will be.
On a different note, why do you think the medication isn't helping your mother? Has her behavior not changed that you can observe? Is she having bad side effects?
VigilanteNighthawk 1 year ago
I think the proof of that can be found when innocent children as young as four develop these symptoms. They are not aware of Dr. Breeding's mumbo-jumbo feelings theory, and still exhibit clear signs of obsessive-compulsive disorder.
RoadsGoEverOn 2 years ago
You think a 4 year old doesn't feel anything if he/she happens to "wish" his/her parents were dead because they sent him to sleep without watching TV? Or are kids robots? Not being able to remember your own feelings at 4 does not mean you don't have them.
StevenJackson00 2 years ago
I disagree...people experience emotions from the moment they are born,surely?? and from age two upwards you are emotionally developed enough to develop the same emotional problems causing things like OCD as an adult.
theorah 2 years ago
...well thats exactly what the people who believe it is a disease (real psychologists) think should be done as well. They just dont give sufferers of OCD a guilt trip, added to their already heavy load, and blame all their sensations and difficulties on their inability to just allow those feelings to be expressed. Its not that easy and it is, in many cases, a very real and relentless DISEASE. (cont...)
RoadsGoEverOn 2 years ago
Because, funnily enough, what he was describing was CBT, re-worded into his idealistic and naïve interpretation of how to treat obsessive behavior. CBT is about relinquishing your control pattern by interrupting it. You see what happens when you dont do that (compulsions), and then sit with the fear, anger, anxiety, etc. He says, decide to confront it gently and let it feel like the world is going to fall apart if I dont count to ten again (cont...)
RoadsGoEverOn 2 years ago
Blaming everything on "fear" and an inability to let oneself flow with the nature of things does not hold, and anyone who knows or has witnessed how life can be eaten up by OCD understands that. I wonder if he is against Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) too or just medication? (From the sounds of it, he believes all forms of psychiatric treatment are not needed for people suffering from this supposed "disease".)
RoadsGoEverOn 2 years ago
I see his point about over-mediation of youth in America these days. But this "psychologist" who runs his counseling practice in Texas I fear has never dealt with a child truly afflicted with OCD. And if he has, I feel for the poor child who had to listen to his harsh words disguised in his seemingly calm and irksome tone. (cont...)
RoadsGoEverOn 2 years ago
Wow, this guy spent the entire time NOT talking about OCD. I have heard lots of doctors talk about diseases like OCD and this guy was talking out his ass. He's like Doctor Phil, but even more nonsensical.
David1173 2 years ago
Wrong!
livegems 2 years ago
Ok, define how I was wrong. Since your response fails to address anything.
David1173 2 years ago
I suggest you make a vid on The Myth of mental Illness, paraphrase Szars to your heart's content, indulge some extreme nominalism, & then when you make a vid on OCD, you can make a reference to it.
That way you can actually talk about OCD in your OCD vid.
There was very little value in both those vids (pretty much none in the first one & about 2-3 mins on how to cope with OCD in this one).
PascalsWager5 2 years ago
wise words as ever from the doctor.
i like the idea of not calling it a disease, it just makes it a stigma.
as people we need to be a bit more open to thinking like breedings and show some compassion rather than label
efgeesus 2 years ago 3
You're making lots of sense Prof. . It definitely potentially empowers we OCD/anxiety/???? dudes to look at the root cause, rather than the symptoms. For years I've simply tried to ignore my anxiety..it works, except when it doesn't !!!!
The comment below about Lance Armstrong is elegantly true..I know a few musos & artists & professional sportmen who would definitely meet the OCD measurements..if they were in fact applied to them, which of course they ain't. Again, nice work Prof. Merci !!!!!
kevinherbert 3 years ago
I agree with the view that in some cases, OCD may be controlled/eliminated by confronting whatever it is that pre-empts the behavior...it's definitely worth a shot as a treatment. However, I don't see a real problem with calling OCD a disease...whatever you call it, it obviously can have a profoiund effect on an individuals's life.
I started counting under my breath when I was around 8 years old, as well as other compulsive baheaviour, and by 18 year old, anxiety was my fulltime companion.
kevinherbert 3 years ago
There is a reason why you order yourself to wash your hands more than the average person. It's not like being worried about taking the garbage out or picking your kids up from school. OCD is a proven neurological disorder. If you deny this, and write it off as some esoteric quirk of your own doing, you're in for a lifetime of hurt my friend.
buellerboy311 3 years ago
heart heart a
InsideXeon 3 years ago
dr breeding and all his colleagues r no doubt onto something with the trauma model of mental distress...this disease model is extremely damaging and is jus down right wrong....dr breeding is the shiznat
toolkills 3 years ago 2
i jus wrote an email to dr breeding...in the email i described how ive been feeling and for sum reason felt very comfortable revealing sum extremely personal things to him....( i guess thats a testimant to his compassionate nature)...i sent him this email and the next day the man sent me back a response ...it was a very simple response but it was very comforting and filled with sincere human compassion....this man is the real deal
toolkills 3 years ago 2
thanks professor
elyurita 3 years ago
You learn behaviours throughout life and OCD (which I suffer from) is one of those things that you learn/develop throughout your life (as I believe) so therefore its not genetic or passed down but yes of course it is physical, but it can be changed with thought alone.
mdkbam 3 years ago
i dont know about confronting or processing. the problem is sooner or later there's going to be another issue thats gonna bug u. it never ends.
PLISKEN12 3 years ago
@PLISKEN12
But at least you're in the habit of putting down old ones and dealing with them, instead of having a heaping plate of shit that keeps mounting more and more.
nosferotica1 1 year ago
well put,so very true. however....
i had referred to someone "checking door knobs" vs. pulling my weeds, or some other productive action. Pulling weeds or yardwork is not a "bad" task/job. It's funny NO one ever "chooses" them..as their "obsession" ..instead they do mundane repative tasks like "door knobs",or touching a vase 17 times before taking 5 steps northward in green shoes,etc,etc As for Lance and Donald ! We NEVER seem to condemn things affiliated with HUGE amounts of money/fame,etc.
plutoplatters 4 years ago
serious question here.. Why doesn't someone obsess and compulsively pull the weeds in my yard every day,over an over ? Why is it always something pointless like "checking a doorknob" over an over ? I'm serious about that...
plutoplatters 4 years ago
I think the answer to your question is that when people are compulsive about something that is considered good, they don't get labeled. Mozart was compulsive about music, Einstein was compulsive about physics, Donald Trump is compulsive about making money.
Very successful people tend to obsess about the thing that they are successful about. Look at Lance Armstrong, the dude trains hours and hours every day to be the best.
psychetruth 4 years ago
armstrong,mozart and their obsessiveness is not causing life disrupting anxiety as it does in OCD nor stopping them thinking about anything else.
billysue2 4 years ago
I don't think you have studied about Mozart, Einstein or Trump. Their obsessions caused social dysfunction.
psychetruth 4 years ago
I think what the doctor is trying to stress is that some behavior is only labeled as OCD - or as whatever other name - if the labeling seems convenient to those in the position to do so. Your statement, billysue2, only confirms what the doctor is successfully pointing out. You say their obsessiveness did not cause life disrupting anxiety but...
cbninja 3 years ago 2
...have you ever thought that maybe that is because it was accepted that their continuous activities could be - as a "normal behavior" and not as a "obsessiveness" - part of their life? It's all about perspective and who calls the shots, really. And doctor, thanks so much for the great insights. Cheers from Brazil!
cbninja 3 years ago
Actually, in the case of Einstein, it is very likely that he had something in the Autism spectrum, not OCD. The fact that you compare obsessive behavior to OCD demonstrates a lack of understanding about what OCD really is. As someone with OCD and who can also be obsessive, I can tell you that the key difference is anxiety. OCD rituals are performed to relieve anxiety. The behavior of those individuals is the result of passion, which is overall a positive emotion.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
@billysue2
or u know i think people recognize this listning to ur own breathing try controling it made me dizzy haha but that didnt botter me or made me crazy or something
TonyCeylan 1 year ago
@TonyCeylan your posts dont make any sense.You may type in english.
billysue2 1 year ago
@psychetruth
OCD is both good and bad. It has to be treated though when it causes problems. I know this because I have OCD. OCD is what makes me the analytical person I am. OCD makes me who I am.
And I have to say, Obsessive people are labelled. They call them "nerds". I am so glad I am one of them. I like being irregular. I get so passionate over things.
CybernautZero 1 year ago
OCD seems to be far more about having general anxiety below the surface, or even at the surface, that is broadly spread, which the individual then focuses into certain "fears" or "anxieties" that become obsession, and compulsions are then a way of controlling one's fear, in an odd way. Some are fortunate enough to get out of the O-B pattern and feel ok, others, like myself, are not. Anxiety remains & pops up in a different obsession, or goe b ack into the old one.
JSResponds 4 years ago 3
I have been with serious OCD. Body checking every 5 minutes. But at this point, Im starting to control it (maybe it can help) is dont fight against the "tought" more you fight, more it will be there.
cirexlab 4 years ago
I actually talk about that in a video called "re: How to overcome addiction"
psychetruth 4 years ago
I actually do not think that obsessive compulsive behaviour is an addiction. We don't do the behaviour because we crave it. We get no satisfaction from it, What we really want is certainty. What we have to do is to try and exist in a world of doubt. If you do that, the OCD may get worse for a bit, but then it will drop.
CybernautZero 2 years ago 7
I think you just have to realise that whatever the circumstances are that create the OCD, can't be controlled by you in any case. To a large extent, you're just like everyone else there, and should make the most of it. But all that takes maturity, patience, confidence, self-sufficiency - these things aren't in everyone in their teens, 20s or even early 30s. A lot of OCDs can be grown out of in time when these traits come forth later in life. For me, I lost both of mine by 28+35 - now i miss them
avidalocan 2 years ago
it is stopped by increased knowledge eg from a psychologist, that removes the underlying cause (an anxiety).
livegems 2 years ago
Or it could be increased knowledge from increased experience. It doesn't have to come from an outside person to the sufferer directly. Also, I don't miss the OCD I had till 28 (the other one I lost spontaneously at 35 was more a general anxiety about something, rather than a behavioural anomaly). And there's the rub - when the sufferer doesnt' want to remember it or have it again, he doesn't need that crutch any more, and discards it. I think I had them because I could lean on or blame them.
avidalocan 2 years ago
@CybernautZero
as a child i watched on what tile i was walking or i was paying attention on the blinking of my eyes is that ocd? but that wasnt that bad caus it didnt hold on for long sometimes i had no thoughts of it for weeks or when i was in school i didnt thought about it but now im paying attention on my toung all the time really sounds stupid but i cant live normal anymore ....any suggestions
TonyCeylan 1 year ago
@CybernautZero its not an addiction.youre right.
billysue2 1 year ago
@CybernautZero I can't seem to be able to stand the doubt that comes with this world. It's so challenging.
Anonpeace 1 year ago
@Anonpeace
You can actually build your tolerance to uncertainty by exposing yourself to it. Try something called CBT with your psychologist.
CybernautZero 1 year ago
@cirexlab how do you cope with it?? in my case i have recently been diagnose with it and i´ve had these wierd sensations since i was a child.... i have a hard time concentrating!!! I feel anxious and a lot of other things...
mdaniel74 1 year ago
Thank you so much for your video's they answered alot of my questions.
justmom66 4 years ago
thank you very much. great stuff.
marjet 4 years ago
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Chipmunkapublishing 4 years ago
Compulsive behavior isn't always something that is necessarily visible or even somethng in which the person who is suffering from OCD disorder is aware. Parents can't always detect what's going on. I feel that your statement that OCD isn't a "disease" is simply wordplay and semantics. Call it what you will. I could care less. But it's there--it's debillitating, horrifying, and sometimes uncontrollable. Call it whatever you want to, but it exists.
jkgaylor 4 years ago 3
@jkgaylor
It is both good and bad. It makes you who you are, but at the same time, as I do suffer from OCD, I know it is debilitating. Just so you know, there are a lot of pluses to OCD too. We tend to be very creative and intelligent people, capable of complex thought, thereby meaning we are able to understand certain concepts that others would have trouble with.
CybernautZero 1 year ago
yes
Iggytommy 4 years ago
Well than whatever you current treatment plan is, it hasn't cured it. You might want to open your mind to the possibility of alternative forms of mental health treatment.
psychetruth 4 years ago
I know about OCD. I dont think this is very helpful.
Iggytommy 4 years ago
Why? Do you have OCD?
psychetruth 4 years ago
Thank You for telling the truth. This movement will take a long time. What needs to be dealt with is the understanding of "inherant nature" which our society has suppressed for centuries. You use the term casually yet the masses have several progammatic thoughts of what nature is. Western religion just calls it "bad",
dhRzztt 4 years ago