Ray McGovern has it right the American Military Mafia and government patsies are now shaking in their war boots because an ugly truth has been exposed. The WAR TERRORISM is all a fake ruse for DRUGS OIL and GEO POLITICAL corruption. What a shame!
@shanepaulcoward cash above credit, physical above electronic, gold and silver are real money and paper is not.
So if anyone wants a donation from me, or I need working cash, it will likely be physical rather than traceable and in-hand so it can't be "shut down" by some moron/peon/slaver with a program or orders to follow.
NO ONE can stop me from trading gold & silver for what I want and I mean NO ONE.
What really messed up about the wikileaks scandal is... that earlier in the year when wikileaks released video footage of an American gunship in Iraq shooting up a van with young children inside it. Nobody really cared. Now that they release a couple cables from world leaders, they call for his death? There is something fundamentaly wrong with this.
@lordcrobar well said. something is definitely wrong with how the media controls the debate and the dialogue - these wars are an affront to everything that is good and decent about "america". see "consumer trampled to death on black friday" to get a glimpse into the television mind control that has gripped this once-proud, once-free nation.
I think Ahmeds question was meant to address this: the U.S. transitioned from a nation trying to attain global power, into a global player, into an ideologically driven superpower, into a resource driven hyper power, and now into a declining super power fighting wars for the global division of resources. So he wanted them to address the motivation of the U.S. escalation on the Korean peninsula considering there are very little natural resources there.
WikiLeaks has gone from a whistleblower to a tattletale. Telling my wife that I cheated on her is whistleblowing, telling my wife I snuck a smoke is tattletaling...
So there is politics and name-calling in diplomacy, wow, tell us all something we did not know!
Julian Assange is an attention whore and he's nothing more and nothing less!!!
What a warped world we live in today. The act of telling the truth has become treasonous and blatantly lying has become the accepted norm amongst the human family
Pathetic!
All of you just sit there and willfully throw rocks at the only brave truth teller amongst us.
Maybe the human race is doomed to its own shallowness and slavery. We have become like a virus on this planet, consuming and destroying everything in our path. The simple act of telling the truth has become an offense!
Besides the fact he only leaks information harmful to the US? Keeping things secret is sometimes vital for national security. Complete transparency is unrealistic.
@TheAntiV Lets get this straight.. There are no countries any more, there's only mega-corporations. They own every facet of govt and conduct their dirty biz to make things sound legit and legal. The very fact you haven't understood this, alludes to the fact you live in a cloud cuckoo world. Don't you want to know whats being done in your name? Didn't think so...
Our objective as the human species should be to make Peace& not War! during our short time on this revolving ball we call earth!
Ah yes. Like any other delusional fear monger, you cannot comprehend a rudderless world run by chaos. To you there always has to be some spooky boogymen creating all the worlds problems, whether they are corporations or some secret group of power brokers.
War is an inevitable imperfection of human society that can never bee fully extinguished especially when evil is abound. War and peace both define one another and cannot exist apart.
@TheAntiV Wikileaks does not leak only information about the US. They've leaked information about all sorts of thing, from religions to politicians to oil companies. Right no they are getting heat for files involving the US Govt.
Julian was leaking what he got. He supposedly never had the intention to analyse this material from different angles, the three of YOU are doing so and putting all this into perspective. Salute! And by the way. Democracy Now has an interview with John le Carree. Most revealing this is and what about sex and crime in his novels?! Julian might have fell into this trap he was addressing earlier.
@Sundrumify LaCare (I'm not going to bother finding the accent characters) is one hell of a character. In fact, I was thinking last night of his interview on CBC radio and Assange, and wondering "if no one before brought out so many leaks, could other spy agencies be acting as whistleblowers, disseminating real but damaging data on their enemies, all around the world?" Because Assange is getting a quantity unlike any journalist ever before.
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Diplomacy of Secrecy?! Thank YOU Gareth, Ray and Paul for this panel. Just read that John Pilger wanted to pay the deposit for Julian?! What does that tell us? John has his docu out about the Obama deception, among other great docus. Day by day we hear news that Obama his betraying all his promises. Diplomacy of Secrecy is over. We knew any ways thanks to a lot of people here, among yourselves, alerting us to the reality. Foreign Policy of the U.S. revealed, and i add to this the puppets here!
On the other hand it is nice to see the technology used to oppress and spy on the people, being used against the government. One needs only look back at the other empires to see how once, the government and military swelled to massive proportions, it starts to eat itself from the inside. Even a low ranking member with some rudimentary hacking skills could have gotten a hold of this information.
I really wish there wasn't phone calls added to the interview. I would have preferred to hear the two guest speak throughout the interview on the topic of Wikileaks.
Couldn't afford to make it a regular monthly thing just yet, just a once off ten spot but I figure every little bit helps and I think that's reasonably proportional with the amount of TRN I watch combined with how usefull I think it is to the community overall modified by my disposable income.
He's a reasonably successfull, good looking single man in his forties; are you saying he's never allowed to have sex again? Just in case the woman *might* be either a "honey trap" or someone weak minded enough to be turned by the powers that be later on? I don't know about you but if a hot chick came on to me, I'd take the risk and to hell with it.
@tangent272 he's got options, undoubtedly, and given what he's into politically, he'd have to be quite naieve not to be careful, but I get the point. Sex has been a tool to target men since the dawns of civilizations.
honey trap. in Assange's case that is. He'll disappear soon. The guy is an idiot. Sure he is "revolutionary" and "brave" but the rule of thumb for survival is simply put: don't be a hero. But if it wasn't for people like him humanity probably wouldn't get far. Just that being a martyr sucks.
@lordblazer "Being a martyr sucks" - Maybe so, but given that we have a slew of people who are willing to go over to another country and risk their lives constantly to "protect us".
It would be nice for at least a small fraction of them to risk their lives to be in political office or be a truth teller, when telling truth is treasonous.
@tangent272 then I guess you wouldn't make a good spy. Yes, if you are a male and actively involved in journalism or espionage you best be ready for a honey-trap, meaning no girl finds out who you really are or you find a way to keep an attempted trap from springing and stinging you.
That leads to the obvious, which is whether Assange has shown good judgment by trusting the msm, especially the pentagon-connected NYT? Personally, I think this is representative of Assange's flawed strategy or "thinking". How naive do you have to be to trust the msm with something so vital? Assange's published comments regarding "9-11 truth" - which have supported the official 19-hijacker conspiracy theory - have also caused some to question his naivete and others to question his loyalty.
06:48 - excellent question ("Joe") and informative discussion, which probes the "real motives" in US Policy and more importantly how the msm distorts the "leaks" and drives home the government-preferred talking points.
This latter point is critical when trying to delineate the true motivation of Assange, because there are many who question his "inspiration"; however, as was pointed out here, its important to judge the leaks and their meaning by the leaks themselves and not from the msm lies.
Who is the "generous" donor? I think we have a right to know, unless that person has some reason for remaining anonymous which trumps that "right". I'm willing to listen to anything, but it's important to know who or what is behind the information-producing organizations, because this can often influence "coverage". I'm a believer in transparency in all matters public, again outside of extra-ordinary situations.
@slewofdamascus From a video of Paul Jay giving a talk at a class somewhere, I remember him mentioning some guy who -maybe inherited some money? Something like that. It wasn't a company, or a 'governmental non-governmental organisation' or anything like that.
@HelmetBlissta I'm conservative and I believe in capitalism and I support what wikileaks has done. The reason some of my "right" counterparts are against wikileaks is because leftists support wikileaks. They seem to be afraid that if we destroy this corrupt government then the socialist and progressives will take power and establish an authoritarian government based on altruism and self-sacrifice.
I tend to agree that it's a real danger, but I still think wikileaks isn't fundamentally immoral.
@daveVT18 It's pretty appalling that our culture has allowed itself to become more submissive towards an increasingly authoritarian government over time, but we don't have a government on the scale of the totalitarian Nazis or Communist yet. That would be closer to the "danger" I was referring to.
The public is watching this intently. Which side will our leaders and politicians fall? the right to tell the truth or their supposed 'right' to squash any insurrection and brand it as terrorism. We are not fools and this case is clear. Politicians one and all should take this very seriously. You either stand up for truth and freedom or you are its enemy. We are all watching.
@danmanjones blindly you say? It's the power structures that want us to remain blind. Julian Assange and wikileaks attempt to illuminate the truth. Can you please explain to me why knowing the truth about governments is bad thing?
@IggyInBurnaby You're basing your statement on the assumption that this is "the truth". It's information. Having followed wikileaks for over 2 years I'd say it's more than likely misinformation - IE information that's edited with certain parts missing. I don't trust it. How can you trust it when all you know is that some Australian hacker named Julian Assange behind it? This is blind trust IMO. The amount of media exposure it gets begs the question who really is editing this information?
@danmanjones ok, I'll play along. If it is only information, should it not be analyzed to see if it is the truth? Or should it be hidden from the people, because Julian Assange has questionable character? This is a classic case of ignoring the message because of the messenger. And only because the messenger is being villainized purposely.
BTW, there are many honorable people behind wikileaks, who take risks for what they believe in. Julian Assange is, as he says it, just the 'lightning rod'.
@IggyInBurnaby The media has blown this story up into something it's not I reckon. I'm highly skeptical of anything that gets this much free publicity. Having followed the site for a few years I haven't ever seen anything that implicates Israel in any way. Makes me wonder if Israel aren't pulling some of Assanges strings. When info should be there & it's not it begs the question.
@danmanjones no, you are calling this an "assumption of truth" when others have come forward and admitted they are being reported on truthfully by WikiLeaks and trying to shut it down. They are NOT denying the stories. They are caught.
There is no blind trust and to claim it is an absolute fraud.
What a smug prick, this McGovern is. Just look at his face. It deserves to be smacked. Those of you who want to know a bit more about him, check his connections with the 9/11 conspiracy theorists, particularly his glowing praise for David Ray Griffin. Again, total nutcase. Shame on RealNews. True colors shown again.
WIkileaks is an inside job, PERIOD. Our government is so criminal - so mob-like - so evil, that I can't possibly understand what it is that's being "revealed" here. This stuff is common knowledge among the enlightened community.
How about the truth about 9/11?
The truth about the so-called wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Funding and support for coups against Honduras? Haiti?
@nadoop i dont think its inside job u seen the collateral damage video they wouldnt want that out and also these fake rape charges on assange if it was inside job that wouldnt be necessary...not everything is usa government doing shit
@anilraj420 Perhaps he's a patsy like Noreiga, Saddam, and countless others who our government uses and then trashes when they're done? The wikileaks fiasco is being used to set the precedence for internet censorship, not to mention it's diverting our focus away from shit that matters. Just saying.
@nadoop Wikileaks only captured relativeley low security levels. You wont find funding for coups discussed on that security level.
Btw, why do you call the wars in Iraq and Afghanisten "so-called wars". Have you any doubts about, wether there are "actual" wars going on in those countries?
I'm just wondering what the point of this segment is. You get two anti-war leftists sitting there and patting each other on the back. Complete waste of time.
@YamaKazoo Semantics. The point here is that certain scummy people use the US's wars to further their anti-American agenda. So they cloak themselves as anti-war. No reasonable person wants war, but no reasonable person can be absolutely against "war".
@chapaev36 you deserve it , asshole - the truth is many Nazis were inducted into the US government in project paperclip to ensure they didn't bring their biological and nuclear secrets to ANOTHER country and America wanted to ensure they had better nuclear and biological weapons. NASA was BUILT ON NAZI ROCKET TECHNOLOGY.
@chapaev36 "No reasonable person wants war, but no reasonable person can be absolutely against "war". I agree with this. But i think what happening with you is that anyone who is anti war is automatically anti american or scummy.
@YamaKazoo not really - we're just defining 'anti-war' differently .. i have no problem with the position that war is not preferable - in fact that is also my position .. by "anti-war" i'm referring to dogmatic points of view that attach a negative connotation to all cases of war. The problem with Iraq war was flawed intelligence; not evil shadowy conspiracies.
@chapaev36 I think McGovern would know enough about the intelligence community having spent 27 years in it to know this wasn't simply "flawed" intelligence".
@chapaev36 lol, no, it was definitely shadowy conspiracies, im not gonna get into this, but i will say the bush admin knew EXACTLY what they were doing. Flawed intel was an excuse. I mean do you seriously think that american agents didnt know what saddam was having for breakfast
@YamaKazoo I believe that american agents are much less smart and devious than you assume. Truth is really banal; doesn't make for as cool a story as you'd like. The US fucked up - not much more else to it.
@chapaev36 No, america didnt fuck up anything, they had saddam disarm anything of importance then attacked, some might say its genius. Its quite obvious what happened. Position troops in iraq and afghanistan, now why would that be, should i go on or am i only being an anti american conspiracy wacko
@YamaKazoo Don't worry about that. You believe in shadowy conspiracies. I don't. We can leave it there. Little chance for insightful discussion on YT anyway. One thing would have been nice - having someone on this segment who didn't believe in that stuff. Would have made for an actual debate, rather than this 'pat-on-the-back' vapid nonsense.
@chapaev36 "that stuff" ??? you mean reality ? These things dont happen by accident. Ooops we invaded an occupied a country, what the fuck do you think these guys are ? Retarded or somtin ?
@chapaev36 you don't believe in shadowy conspiracies because you don't believe in reality.
Shadowy conspiracies are a proven fact. Watergate is an example. Gold price suppression is an example. Every American military action in South America is an example. And if you'd like you can add the cocaine smuggling as side-missions rather than military missions but some would argue they are the same.
This is just a matter or PROVEN FACT beyond all doubt. It's shadowy. It's conspiracy.
@chapaev36 no, it's not flawed intelligence - the intelligence was clear - there is no weapon of mass destruction, and the Saudis are the source of the alleged hijackers of the 9/11 planes (which fails entirely to explain the 3rd building, No 7, crashing down in a perfect implosion pattern). The war in Iraq is only about oil and theft and this was known from the start. Period.
In Afghanistan it's about maximizing opium exporting and nat-gas pipelines.
@chapaev36 there's no such thing as an "anti-American agenda". There is only self-defense against the rape, pillaging and mass murder by the American military.
The American CITIZENS have an agenda (survival, freedom) against the American government as well.
@chapaev36 pro-war right-wingers are a waste of oxygen and a waste of life. So anyone other than them is a highly valuable asset to all humanity.
Learn it.
If you are pro-war then it is YOUR DUTY to GET YOURSELF KILLED TODAY in the war you support and donate ALL YOUR MONEY, ALL YOUR PROPERTY, immediately TO THE ARMY. NOW. THIS SECOND.
DO IT OR SHUT THE HELL UP and lying and making other people die for YOUR theft.
@Mendelevium146 I hate Russia Today. I actually like the United States, unlike some of you people who routinely root against it by supporting nutcases like McGovern.
@chapaev36 I think I misinterpreted myself, by "this show usually has fair point of view" I meant TRNN, not Russia Today lol. I too like the "real" USA, that is, the land of the free, that is what it still was 40 years ago, that is what it was founded upon. Now it as turned into near fascism with these antiamerican nuts calling for prosecution of assange. USA was founded on progressive and open minded values, but now it has become the most conservative country on the western world
@chapaev36 What do you like about the United States? The raping and killing of brown-people countries? Or the taking people's oil at gun-point? Or perhaps it's exporting inflation around the world by printing US dollars after forcing everyone ONTO US dollars during Bretton-Woods? Please, tell us in proper detail why you like the USA while they hate OUR freedom
@IggyInBurnaby McGovern is an extremist leftist loon with an axe to grind. I see that the Real News gladly mentions that he's a "retired CIA analysts" but doesn't mention his leftist activism.
@IggyInBurnaby Do a little research on McGovern. The guy appeared on Loose Change and 9/11 press for truth, for goodness sake. He's every conspiracy theorist's favorite grand old man.
@chapaev36 so it is wrong to question what happened on 911? Again, is there something wrong with knowing the truth? Or should we just put blind faith in government officials? Do you think they tell us the truth? If you do, I have some beachfront land in Saskatchewan I'd like to sell you.
@IggyInBurnaby Skepticism doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist. Placing your faith in conspiracy narratives does. I can't know whether you do or not; I've only "met" you minutes ago.
@IggyInBurnaby What arguments? I answered your questions in a very straight forward way. You seem to have this mistaken impression that you've said something profound.
@IggyInBurnaby As I've said, there's nothing wrong with skepticism. That said, people who claim to be skeptics are often much more than that. Much like those lovely young earth creationists who claim to be 'skeptical' about evolution, but in reality forcefeed biblical narratives. But surely, if you're indeed just a skeptic and nothing more than all the best to you.
The government lies to the people routinely. Skepticism is too mild of a word for how people should judge the government. Thus, we NEED organizations like wikileaks, that aren't afraid to challenge those in power. Their courage is nothing short of heroic.
Am I more than a skeptic? You bet your boots my friend.
@IggyInBurnaby Ah, well I'm not necessarily against an independent overseer. But I'm curious why you'd so gladly place all of your trust into Assange. Is it the hair?
@chapaev36 OK, if you are accepting of skepticism then when you saw how & when building # 7 went down on 9/11 did this make you skeptical? When you saw no invasion or financial shut-downs of Saudis happen but every alleged hijacker for 9/11 said to be of Saudi nationality, did you get skeptical?
I sure as hell would be skeptical if I saw all that.
And that's without adding the details that nations were invaded but not Saudi Arabia. Add THAT in and ...
@BubbaGump332 Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were "questioning". I was under the impression that you were one of the conspiracy nuts who were writing these remarkable narratives about government conspiracies.
@chapaev36 So? Do you think you know the truth? Once upon a time ppl thought the earth was flat. So what you think of him doesn't matter, look at the facts instead.. Stupid sheeple.
@hobatu My thoughts exactly. If I was Paul I'd be embarrassed. This channel is the best thing going, but I find him catering to the conspiracy crowd all the time. I really hope TRN doesn't turn into another RT.
I agree with Ray. Julian Assange wants to expose truth, plain and simple. And he has. And now the people and institutions he is exposing are trying to shut him down.
Julian Assange should be viewed as courageous and freedom loving. All the power to him, and what he is trying to accomplish.
You guys should report on this cable, it mentions how DynCorp, a private contractor, uses money to pimp boys and buy drugs for Afghan cops and the U.S. government was asked to cover the whole thing up.
h t t p : // wikileaks . ch /cable/2009/06/09KABUL1651.html
Pentagon Spokesman: We Could Have Shut Down WikiLeaks, But We Decided Not To
h t t p : // w w w . mediaite . com/online/pentagon-spokesman-we-could-have-shut-down-wikileaks-but-we-decided-not-to/
And why didn't it do so? See the info below re S . 3480
Many are saying it wasn't done because the ONE wanted to eliminate H Clinton but I believe and contend that it was to support the ONE's desire & demands to take over the IT and the airwaves
The new Orwellian dictionary; ie, rape as difined by the Sweds, definition of rape is 'One night stands with two people in the same week and not using condoms'
Read-
Revealed: Assange ‘rape’ accuser linked to notorious CIA operative
h t t p : // w w w . rawstory . com/rs/2010/12/assange-rape-ac cuser-cia-ties/
Why waste time discovering the truth when you can so easily create it?
Only the wilfully self-deceived could see things otherwise
Gareth Porter and Ray McGovern rock. The decision to let callers call live? Someone needs a good talking to, cos every single one was unintelligible.
klhighbury 1 year ago
The only reason i would donate, is for you cunts to buy a better fucking camera.
TheItchyFetus 1 year ago
@TheItchyFetus normally they have quality videos. for some reason these live recordings are low quality
marpoq 1 year ago
Very educational post. Thanks.
Canada1953 1 year ago
everyone can see through the public smear campaign of assange.
people aren't that stupid.
echoplex89 1 year ago
We need wikileaks on the canadian goverment!
Lets not act like they are innocent, there are freemasons all over the parliment.
Funny bussiness going on in B.C. politiX, no media is exposing that shitt..
Canadian media is a joke too, it never really covers anything, accept when it comes to sports and advertisements and getting ur H1N1 vaccines.
Hillsillverr 1 year ago 3
Paul Jay why are u begging?
just put up a link to ur donations..
Be professional!
Hillsillverr 1 year ago
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This was good. May your paypal account live on.
thetimman00 1 year ago
Follow my blog, "Say No To Cops", the link is in my profile.
poetswolf1985 1 year ago
Ray McGovern has it right the American Military Mafia and government patsies are now shaking in their war boots because an ugly truth has been exposed. The WAR TERRORISM is all a fake ruse for DRUGS OIL and GEO POLITICAL corruption. What a shame!
MyMeditrax 1 year ago 2
@shanepaulcoward cash above credit, physical above electronic, gold and silver are real money and paper is not.
So if anyone wants a donation from me, or I need working cash, it will likely be physical rather than traceable and in-hand so it can't be "shut down" by some moron/peon/slaver with a program or orders to follow.
NO ONE can stop me from trading gold & silver for what I want and I mean NO ONE.
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
@ytgv3fc7 Fuk the system and its programs!
Hillsillverr 1 year ago
What really messed up about the wikileaks scandal is... that earlier in the year when wikileaks released video footage of an American gunship in Iraq shooting up a van with young children inside it. Nobody really cared. Now that they release a couple cables from world leaders, they call for his death? There is something fundamentaly wrong with this.
lordcrobar 1 year ago
@lordcrobar well said. something is definitely wrong with how the media controls the debate and the dialogue - these wars are an affront to everything that is good and decent about "america". see "consumer trampled to death on black friday" to get a glimpse into the television mind control that has gripped this once-proud, once-free nation.
slewofdamascus 1 year ago
I think Ahmeds question was meant to address this: the U.S. transitioned from a nation trying to attain global power, into a global player, into an ideologically driven superpower, into a resource driven hyper power, and now into a declining super power fighting wars for the global division of resources. So he wanted them to address the motivation of the U.S. escalation on the Korean peninsula considering there are very little natural resources there.
kileer71 1 year ago
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WikiLeaks has gone from a whistleblower to a tattletale. Telling my wife that I cheated on her is whistleblowing, telling my wife I snuck a smoke is tattletaling...
So there is politics and name-calling in diplomacy, wow, tell us all something we did not know!
Julian Assange is an attention whore and he's nothing more and nothing less!!!
promotescripts 1 year ago
Thumbs Up.
SingularInfinity 1 year ago
What a warped world we live in today. The act of telling the truth has become treasonous and blatantly lying has become the accepted norm amongst the human family
Pathetic!
All of you just sit there and willfully throw rocks at the only brave truth teller amongst us.
Maybe the human race is doomed to its own shallowness and slavery. We have become like a virus on this planet, consuming and destroying everything in our path. The simple act of telling the truth has become an offense!
Just shameful
Unh0lymystic 1 year ago 20
@Unh0lymystic 100% correct
norm741 1 year ago
@Unh0lymystic
Your idealism is pathetic. Julian Assange is reckless and a hypocrite.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
@TheAntiV Please show me where he has been a hypocrite? I guess truth is something you find hard to handle.
The hate you spread is drivel at best. I rather be idealistic than an absolute jackass with no conscience.
Jackass..
Unh0lymystic 1 year ago
@Unh0lymystic
Besides the fact he only leaks information harmful to the US? Keeping things secret is sometimes vital for national security. Complete transparency is unrealistic.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
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Unh0lymystic 1 year ago
@TheAntiV Lets get this straight.. There are no countries any more, there's only mega-corporations. They own every facet of govt and conduct their dirty biz to make things sound legit and legal. The very fact you haven't understood this, alludes to the fact you live in a cloud cuckoo world. Don't you want to know whats being done in your name? Didn't think so...
Our objective as the human species should be to make Peace& not War! during our short time on this revolving ball we call earth!
Peace
Unh0lymystic 1 year ago
@Unh0lymystic
Ah yes. Like any other delusional fear monger, you cannot comprehend a rudderless world run by chaos. To you there always has to be some spooky boogymen creating all the worlds problems, whether they are corporations or some secret group of power brokers.
War is an inevitable imperfection of human society that can never bee fully extinguished especially when evil is abound. War and peace both define one another and cannot exist apart.
TheAntiV 1 year ago
@TheAntiV Wikileaks does not leak only information about the US. They've leaked information about all sorts of thing, from religions to politicians to oil companies. Right no they are getting heat for files involving the US Govt.
schluecker 1 year ago
@Unh0lymystic so 1984 that truth is "treason"
Yankhadenough 1 year ago
@Unh0lymystic . .
ubuibiok 7 months ago
Julian was leaking what he got. He supposedly never had the intention to analyse this material from different angles, the three of YOU are doing so and putting all this into perspective. Salute! And by the way. Democracy Now has an interview with John le Carree. Most revealing this is and what about sex and crime in his novels?! Julian might have fell into this trap he was addressing earlier.
Sundrumify 1 year ago
@Sundrumify LaCare (I'm not going to bother finding the accent characters) is one hell of a character. In fact, I was thinking last night of his interview on CBC radio and Assange, and wondering "if no one before brought out so many leaks, could other spy agencies be acting as whistleblowers, disseminating real but damaging data on their enemies, all around the world?" Because Assange is getting a quantity unlike any journalist ever before.
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
NEW CAMPAIGN; On every $ bill you recieve, write on it either 'Google: New world order', 'Rothschild', 'Rockefeller' &/or 'J.P Morgan'. When you spend those bills they will forever be in circulation & could potentially convince numerous people to do some research! Please support this by participation & spreading the word! Thanks
twistedfool420 1 year ago 2
Diplomacy of Secrecy?! Thank YOU Gareth, Ray and Paul for this panel. Just read that John Pilger wanted to pay the deposit for Julian?! What does that tell us? John has his docu out about the Obama deception, among other great docus. Day by day we hear news that Obama his betraying all his promises. Diplomacy of Secrecy is over. We knew any ways thanks to a lot of people here, among yourselves, alerting us to the reality. Foreign Policy of the U.S. revealed, and i add to this the puppets here!
Sundrumify 1 year ago
holy crap... the dream team of TRNN!!!
eldogg4life 1 year ago
I have a recommendation
make the viewers send questions via text
not via mic
again thx for the video
greenhell666 1 year ago 2
Paul Jay for Prime Minister (in Canada)
Omar3u 1 year ago 34
On the other hand it is nice to see the technology used to oppress and spy on the people, being used against the government. One needs only look back at the other empires to see how once, the government and military swelled to massive proportions, it starts to eat itself from the inside. Even a low ranking member with some rudimentary hacking skills could have gotten a hold of this information.
Mahoivlich 1 year ago
wikileaks= psy-ops....and I do not consider myself a leftist! perhaps some mindless murderer neo-con would, because all things are relative ofc.
EasternGateGuardian 1 year ago
after what is going on with wikileaks we should come with some way to finance the real news in a way they cannot shout down
kurydebarcelona 1 year ago
@kurydebarcelona donations is the way to go. That's what i'm gonna do when i get my tax return.
Apocalypse487 1 year ago
First crappy interview i have ever seen from real news.
Raikenbolai 1 year ago
hey paul, why didn't you guys address the 9-11 question?
SuperAutomaton 1 year ago
Server Law is very complex, it is best to tackle later.
herzogsbuick 1 year ago
Paul Jay is a coward when it comes to the question of 9/11 Truth!
Why did you skip the "Build What" question PAUL JAY!
911truthncDotOrg 1 year ago
"it's all about making money"...bang on Jay
mike6459 1 year ago
another good one, thanks...
grendelcatt 1 year ago 2
This live thing is great, keep doing it!
sl2mmer 1 year ago
I really wish there wasn't phone calls added to the interview. I would have preferred to hear the two guest speak throughout the interview on the topic of Wikileaks.
ogrish84 1 year ago
@ogrish84 I second that. Skip the callers.. Your guests are interesting enough.
maakoo 1 year ago
Just posted $10 to RealNews.
Couldn't afford to make it a regular monthly thing just yet, just a once off ten spot but I figure every little bit helps and I think that's reasonably proportional with the amount of TRN I watch combined with how usefull I think it is to the community overall modified by my disposable income.
tangent272 1 year ago
Great news! Thank you!
slonamu 1 year ago
who thinks Obama donates $5 to the Real News?? lol
PatSan1984 1 year ago
Right now, I think he's terribly naive, which plays right into the way in which he was set-up by the international criminal syndicate.
slewofdamascus 1 year ago
@slewofdamascus
He's a reasonably successfull, good looking single man in his forties; are you saying he's never allowed to have sex again? Just in case the woman *might* be either a "honey trap" or someone weak minded enough to be turned by the powers that be later on? I don't know about you but if a hot chick came on to me, I'd take the risk and to hell with it.
tangent272 1 year ago
@tangent272 he's got options, undoubtedly, and given what he's into politically, he'd have to be quite naieve not to be careful, but I get the point. Sex has been a tool to target men since the dawns of civilizations.
slewofdamascus 1 year ago
@tangent272
honey trap. in Assange's case that is. He'll disappear soon. The guy is an idiot. Sure he is "revolutionary" and "brave" but the rule of thumb for survival is simply put: don't be a hero. But if it wasn't for people like him humanity probably wouldn't get far. Just that being a martyr sucks.
lordblazer 1 year ago
@lordblazer "Being a martyr sucks" - Maybe so, but given that we have a slew of people who are willing to go over to another country and risk their lives constantly to "protect us".
It would be nice for at least a small fraction of them to risk their lives to be in political office or be a truth teller, when telling truth is treasonous.
sirellyn 1 year ago
@tangent272 then I guess you wouldn't make a good spy. Yes, if you are a male and actively involved in journalism or espionage you best be ready for a honey-trap, meaning no girl finds out who you really are or you find a way to keep an attempted trap from springing and stinging you.
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
That leads to the obvious, which is whether Assange has shown good judgment by trusting the msm, especially the pentagon-connected NYT? Personally, I think this is representative of Assange's flawed strategy or "thinking". How naive do you have to be to trust the msm with something so vital? Assange's published comments regarding "9-11 truth" - which have supported the official 19-hijacker conspiracy theory - have also caused some to question his naivete and others to question his loyalty.
slewofdamascus 1 year ago
06:48 - excellent question ("Joe") and informative discussion, which probes the "real motives" in US Policy and more importantly how the msm distorts the "leaks" and drives home the government-preferred talking points.
This latter point is critical when trying to delineate the true motivation of Assange, because there are many who question his "inspiration"; however, as was pointed out here, its important to judge the leaks and their meaning by the leaks themselves and not from the msm lies.
slewofdamascus 1 year ago
Jay & Ray 2012!
a2dli 1 year ago
Who is the "generous" donor? I think we have a right to know, unless that person has some reason for remaining anonymous which trumps that "right". I'm willing to listen to anything, but it's important to know who or what is behind the information-producing organizations, because this can often influence "coverage". I'm a believer in transparency in all matters public, again outside of extra-ordinary situations.
slewofdamascus 1 year ago
@slewofdamascus From a video of Paul Jay giving a talk at a class somewhere, I remember him mentioning some guy who -maybe inherited some money? Something like that. It wasn't a company, or a 'governmental non-governmental organisation' or anything like that.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
Judging by the wing-nuts commenting here, I'd say Wikileaks and the RNN are doing a good job
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago 13
@HelmetBlissta I'm conservative and I believe in capitalism and I support what wikileaks has done. The reason some of my "right" counterparts are against wikileaks is because leftists support wikileaks. They seem to be afraid that if we destroy this corrupt government then the socialist and progressives will take power and establish an authoritarian government based on altruism and self-sacrifice.
I tend to agree that it's a real danger, but I still think wikileaks isn't fundamentally immoral.
GeminiK 1 year ago
@GeminiK
I don't think there is any "danger" of the US establishing a government based on altruism and self-sacrifice. Wouldn't worry too much about that one.
Authoritarian on the other hand, that seems to have happened a long time ago.
daveVT18 1 year ago
@daveVT18 It's pretty appalling that our culture has allowed itself to become more submissive towards an increasingly authoritarian government over time, but we don't have a government on the scale of the totalitarian Nazis or Communist yet. That would be closer to the "danger" I was referring to.
GeminiK 1 year ago
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LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago
The public is watching this intently. Which side will our leaders and politicians fall? the right to tell the truth or their supposed 'right' to squash any insurrection and brand it as terrorism. We are not fools and this case is clear. Politicians one and all should take this very seriously. You either stand up for truth and freedom or you are its enemy. We are all watching.
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
Sad that so many people are blindly putting their faith in Assange
danmanjones 1 year ago
@danmanjones blindly you say? It's the power structures that want us to remain blind. Julian Assange and wikileaks attempt to illuminate the truth. Can you please explain to me why knowing the truth about governments is bad thing?
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago 2
@IggyInBurnaby You're basing your statement on the assumption that this is "the truth". It's information. Having followed wikileaks for over 2 years I'd say it's more than likely misinformation - IE information that's edited with certain parts missing. I don't trust it. How can you trust it when all you know is that some Australian hacker named Julian Assange behind it? This is blind trust IMO. The amount of media exposure it gets begs the question who really is editing this information?
danmanjones 1 year ago 2
@danmanjones god thinking man ! And I agree of course !
tepstolog 1 year ago
@danmanjones ok, I'll play along. If it is only information, should it not be analyzed to see if it is the truth? Or should it be hidden from the people, because Julian Assange has questionable character? This is a classic case of ignoring the message because of the messenger. And only because the messenger is being villainized purposely.
BTW, there are many honorable people behind wikileaks, who take risks for what they believe in. Julian Assange is, as he says it, just the 'lightning rod'.
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago
@IggyInBurnaby The media has blown this story up into something it's not I reckon. I'm highly skeptical of anything that gets this much free publicity. Having followed the site for a few years I haven't ever seen anything that implicates Israel in any way. Makes me wonder if Israel aren't pulling some of Assanges strings. When info should be there & it's not it begs the question.
danmanjones 1 year ago 5
@danmanjones no, you are calling this an "assumption of truth" when others have come forward and admitted they are being reported on truthfully by WikiLeaks and trying to shut it down. They are NOT denying the stories. They are caught.
There is no blind trust and to claim it is an absolute fraud.
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
Sheesh !
Google Gareth Porter and Ray McGovern
Searching4Truth1 1 year ago
What a smug prick, this McGovern is. Just look at his face. It deserves to be smacked. Those of you who want to know a bit more about him, check his connections with the 9/11 conspiracy theorists, particularly his glowing praise for David Ray Griffin. Again, total nutcase. Shame on RealNews. True colors shown again.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 you sound like a right-wing-nut to me
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
But any reasonable person can be against US imperialism
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago 2
WIkileaks is an inside job, PERIOD. Our government is so criminal - so mob-like - so evil, that I can't possibly understand what it is that's being "revealed" here. This stuff is common knowledge among the enlightened community.
How about the truth about 9/11?
The truth about the so-called wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Funding and support for coups against Honduras? Haiti?
Election fraud of 2000 and 2004?
The truth about Obama?
nadoop 1 year ago
@nadoop This is the kind of viewer that the RealNews deserves.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@nadoop i dont think its inside job u seen the collateral damage video they wouldnt want that out and also these fake rape charges on assange if it was inside job that wouldnt be necessary...not everything is usa government doing shit
anilraj420 1 year ago
@anilraj420 Perhaps he's a patsy like Noreiga, Saddam, and countless others who our government uses and then trashes when they're done? The wikileaks fiasco is being used to set the precedence for internet censorship, not to mention it's diverting our focus away from shit that matters. Just saying.
nadoop 1 year ago
@nadoop yeah i been hearing bout the internet censorship im was justing not everything is the government some shit is out of there control
anilraj420 1 year ago
@nadoop Wikileaks only captured relativeley low security levels. You wont find funding for coups discussed on that security level.
Btw, why do you call the wars in Iraq and Afghanisten "so-called wars". Have you any doubts about, wether there are "actual" wars going on in those countries?
BusterXXXL 1 year ago
@BusterXXXL They're not wars - they're occupations.
Not only is Assange annoyed by 9/11 truth, but the cables declared the Honduran coup illegal.
nadoop 1 year ago
I'm just wondering what the point of this segment is. You get two anti-war leftists sitting there and patting each other on the back. Complete waste of time.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 since when is there something wrong with anti war ??
YamaKazoo 1 year ago
@YamaKazoo "pro-war" and "anti-war" are equally extremist positions when expressed absolutely.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 being pro-peace and anti-war is not an extremist position
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
@HelmetBlissta "pro-peace" and "anti-war" is not the same thing.
chapaev36 1 year ago
being anti war doesnt mean you dont defend yourself, there is no absolutes with either position, only a wacko would be pro war
YamaKazoo 1 year ago
@YamaKazoo Semantics. The point here is that certain scummy people use the US's wars to further their anti-American agenda. So they cloak themselves as anti-war. No reasonable person wants war, but no reasonable person can be absolutely against "war".
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 A reasonable amrs manufacturer might want war....
BusterXXXL 1 year ago
@chapaev36 lol maybe peoples anti-US stance is caused by their unwarranted nazi invasions of innocent countries. i dunno. just a thought
superfuzz 1 year ago
@superfuzz Right. The US are nazis now. This is your viewership here, RealNews. You deserve it.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 you deserve it , asshole - the truth is many Nazis were inducted into the US government in project paperclip to ensure they didn't bring their biological and nuclear secrets to ANOTHER country and America wanted to ensure they had better nuclear and biological weapons. NASA was BUILT ON NAZI ROCKET TECHNOLOGY.
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
@ytgv3fc7 Jesus Christ. Some of the responses to my posts are amazing. This is one of my favorites.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 The V2 rocket was the core of the Apollo mission. It's a proven fact.
The biotechnology is now, much of it, at a place called Plumb Island, right next door to the birthplace of Lyme disease.
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
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LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago
@chapaev36 "No reasonable person wants war, but no reasonable person can be absolutely against "war". I agree with this. But i think what happening with you is that anyone who is anti war is automatically anti american or scummy.
YamaKazoo 1 year ago
@YamaKazoo not really - we're just defining 'anti-war' differently .. i have no problem with the position that war is not preferable - in fact that is also my position .. by "anti-war" i'm referring to dogmatic points of view that attach a negative connotation to all cases of war. The problem with Iraq war was flawed intelligence; not evil shadowy conspiracies.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 I think McGovern would know enough about the intelligence community having spent 27 years in it to know this wasn't simply "flawed" intelligence".
BubbaGump332 1 year ago
@BubbaGump332 You're overestimating his reach and intelligence. Btw, he's not been with the CIA since 1990.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 You're right it was a faulty intelligence, in that the intelligence the president cherry picked was faulty.
BubbaGump332 1 year ago
@chapaev36 lol, no, it was definitely shadowy conspiracies, im not gonna get into this, but i will say the bush admin knew EXACTLY what they were doing. Flawed intel was an excuse. I mean do you seriously think that american agents didnt know what saddam was having for breakfast
YamaKazoo 1 year ago
@YamaKazoo I believe that american agents are much less smart and devious than you assume. Truth is really banal; doesn't make for as cool a story as you'd like. The US fucked up - not much more else to it.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 No, america didnt fuck up anything, they had saddam disarm anything of importance then attacked, some might say its genius. Its quite obvious what happened. Position troops in iraq and afghanistan, now why would that be, should i go on or am i only being an anti american conspiracy wacko
YamaKazoo 1 year ago
@YamaKazoo I'm not quite sure what you are or even what your point is.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 i wouldnt blame you, your having to respond to 10 different people at a time
YamaKazoo 1 year ago
@YamaKazoo Don't worry about that. You believe in shadowy conspiracies. I don't. We can leave it there. Little chance for insightful discussion on YT anyway. One thing would have been nice - having someone on this segment who didn't believe in that stuff. Would have made for an actual debate, rather than this 'pat-on-the-back' vapid nonsense.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 "that stuff" ??? you mean reality ? These things dont happen by accident. Ooops we invaded an occupied a country, what the fuck do you think these guys are ? Retarded or somtin ?
YamaKazoo 1 year ago
@chapaev36 you don't believe in shadowy conspiracies because you don't believe in reality.
Shadowy conspiracies are a proven fact. Watergate is an example. Gold price suppression is an example. Every American military action in South America is an example. And if you'd like you can add the cocaine smuggling as side-missions rather than military missions but some would argue they are the same.
This is just a matter or PROVEN FACT beyond all doubt. It's shadowy. It's conspiracy.
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
@chapaev36 no, it's not flawed intelligence - the intelligence was clear - there is no weapon of mass destruction, and the Saudis are the source of the alleged hijackers of the 9/11 planes (which fails entirely to explain the 3rd building, No 7, crashing down in a perfect implosion pattern). The war in Iraq is only about oil and theft and this was known from the start. Period.
In Afghanistan it's about maximizing opium exporting and nat-gas pipelines.
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
@chapaev36 there's no such thing as an "anti-American agenda". There is only self-defense against the rape, pillaging and mass murder by the American military.
The American CITIZENS have an agenda (survival, freedom) against the American government as well.
It's called freedom. AMERICA HATES OUR FREEDOM
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
@chapaev36 anti war is an extremist position. OMG, somebody put a muzzle on this imbecile.
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago
@chapaev36 , You sound like a pro-war right-winger.
HelmetBlissta 1 year ago
@chapaev36
Obama, Hillary and cronies, were happy to use anti-war leftists to get into power, and now Bush is out of power people bitch about the anti...!
Wh47n0w1517 1 year ago
@chapaev36 pro-war right-wingers are a waste of oxygen and a waste of life. So anyone other than them is a highly valuable asset to all humanity.
Learn it.
If you are pro-war then it is YOUR DUTY to GET YOURSELF KILLED TODAY in the war you support and donate ALL YOUR MONEY, ALL YOUR PROPERTY, immediately TO THE ARMY. NOW. THIS SECOND.
DO IT OR SHUT THE HELL UP and lying and making other people die for YOUR theft.
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
Surprise, surprise. Two anti-American nutbags on TheRealNews. Way to keep things balanced, boys.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 Well it's not that bad, go watch some videos of "russia today" it's anti western propaganda, this show usually has fair point of view.
Mendelevium146 1 year ago
@Mendelevium146 I hate Russia Today. I actually like the United States, unlike some of you people who routinely root against it by supporting nutcases like McGovern.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 I think I misinterpreted myself, by "this show usually has fair point of view" I meant TRNN, not Russia Today lol. I too like the "real" USA, that is, the land of the free, that is what it still was 40 years ago, that is what it was founded upon. Now it as turned into near fascism with these antiamerican nuts calling for prosecution of assange. USA was founded on progressive and open minded values, but now it has become the most conservative country on the western world
Mendelevium146 1 year ago
@Mendelevium146 I question the accuracy of your "history". By the way, the US has not charged Assange.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 What do you like about the United States? The raping and killing of brown-people countries? Or the taking people's oil at gun-point? Or perhaps it's exporting inflation around the world by printing US dollars after forcing everyone ONTO US dollars during Bretton-Woods? Please, tell us in proper detail why you like the USA while they hate OUR freedom
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
@chapaev36 try to listen to what they are saying, as opposed to posing ad hominem arguments. If you don't know what that is, look it up!
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago 3
@IggyInBurnaby McGovern is an extremist leftist loon with an axe to grind. I see that the Real News gladly mentions that he's a "retired CIA analysts" but doesn't mention his leftist activism.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 so you are saying that the fact he is an activist makes him 'leftist loon'. My friend, you are very loud, but you have very little to say!
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago
@IggyInBurnaby Do a little research on McGovern. The guy appeared on Loose Change and 9/11 press for truth, for goodness sake. He's every conspiracy theorist's favorite grand old man.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 so it is wrong to question what happened on 911? Again, is there something wrong with knowing the truth? Or should we just put blind faith in government officials? Do you think they tell us the truth? If you do, I have some beachfront land in Saskatchewan I'd like to sell you.
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago
@IggyInBurnaby Let me guess. You're one of the "shadowy conspiracy" folks.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 I don't know what that means.
I want to know the truth, and I don't trust what the government tells us. Does that make me a 'shadowy conspiracy folk'?
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago
@IggyInBurnaby Skepticism doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist. Placing your faith in conspiracy narratives does. I can't know whether you do or not; I've only "met" you minutes ago.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 so if you can slot me into 'conspiracy folk' then you can write off my arguments?
Dude, try to discuss the issues, as opposed to assessing peoples' personalities. Do you have anything to say, other than personal criticisms?
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago
@IggyInBurnaby What arguments? I answered your questions in a very straight forward way. You seem to have this mistaken impression that you've said something profound.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 I asked if there is something wrong with questioning the 'official' story about 911? Sorry, what answer did you give for that question?
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago
@IggyInBurnaby As I've said, there's nothing wrong with skepticism. That said, people who claim to be skeptics are often much more than that. Much like those lovely young earth creationists who claim to be 'skeptical' about evolution, but in reality forcefeed biblical narratives. But surely, if you're indeed just a skeptic and nothing more than all the best to you.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 oh, are we arguing about religion now?
The government lies to the people routinely. Skepticism is too mild of a word for how people should judge the government. Thus, we NEED organizations like wikileaks, that aren't afraid to challenge those in power. Their courage is nothing short of heroic.
Am I more than a skeptic? You bet your boots my friend.
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago
@IggyInBurnaby Ah, well I'm not necessarily against an independent overseer. But I'm curious why you'd so gladly place all of your trust into Assange. Is it the hair?
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 you're arguments are substanceless drivel.
Try to look at the message instead of the messenger, again, you might just learn something along the way.
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago
@chapaev36 OK, if you are accepting of skepticism then when you saw how & when building # 7 went down on 9/11 did this make you skeptical? When you saw no invasion or financial shut-downs of Saudis happen but every alleged hijacker for 9/11 said to be of Saudi nationality, did you get skeptical?
I sure as hell would be skeptical if I saw all that.
And that's without adding the details that nations were invaded but not Saudi Arabia. Add THAT in and ...
ytgv3fc7 1 year ago
@chapaev36 by the way, did you look up 'ad hominem'? Try it, you might learn something.
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago
@IggyInBurnaby Look up "rhetorical question". Ad hominem is a fallacy that problematizes debates and structured arguments, not loose web exchanges.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 So what? Any acute citizen would question what their government tells them.
BubbaGump332 1 year ago
@BubbaGump332 Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were "questioning". I was under the impression that you were one of the conspiracy nuts who were writing these remarkable narratives about government conspiracies.
chapaev36 1 year ago
@chapaev36 So? Do you think you know the truth? Once upon a time ppl thought the earth was flat. So what you think of him doesn't matter, look at the facts instead.. Stupid sheeple.
a2dli 1 year ago
@hobatu My thoughts exactly. If I was Paul I'd be embarrassed. This channel is the best thing going, but I find him catering to the conspiracy crowd all the time. I really hope TRN doesn't turn into another RT.
bulldogger 1 year ago
I agree with Ray. Julian Assange wants to expose truth, plain and simple. And he has. And now the people and institutions he is exposing are trying to shut him down.
Julian Assange should be viewed as courageous and freedom loving. All the power to him, and what he is trying to accomplish.
IggyInBurnaby 1 year ago 2
Great video Paul!
You guys should report on this cable, it mentions how DynCorp, a private contractor, uses money to pimp boys and buy drugs for Afghan cops and the U.S. government was asked to cover the whole thing up.
h t t p : // wikileaks . ch /cable/2009/06/09KABUL1651.html
Christ724 1 year ago
Watch-
Pentagon Spokesman: We Could Have Shut Down WikiLeaks, But We Decided Not To
h t t p : // w w w . mediaite . com/online/pentagon-spokesman-we-could-have-shut-down-wikileaks-but-we-decided-not-to/
And why didn't it do so? See the info below re S . 3480
Many are saying it wasn't done because the ONE wanted to eliminate H Clinton but I believe and contend that it was to support the ONE's desire & demands to take over the IT and the airwaves
Searching4Truth1 1 year ago
A distraction & discombobulation which will be used to pass S . 3480 -
Read-
Full text from Govtrack . US
h t t p : // w w w . govtrack . us/congress/billtext . xpd?bill=s111-3480
Quite innocuous until you dig into it; e.g., “about to be exploited”; truly dangerous to American freedom IAW the US Constituion & the Bill of Rights.
In essence, it would be declaring Martial Law - which allows shutting down newspapers & only allowing approved govt propaganda to be distributed
Searching4Truth1 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The new Orwellian dictionary; ie, rape as difined by the Sweds, definition of rape is 'One night stands with two people in the same week and not using condoms'
Read-
Revealed: Assange ‘rape’ accuser linked to notorious CIA operative
h t t p : // w w w . rawstory . com/rs/2010/12/assange-rape-ac cuser-cia-ties/
Why waste time discovering the truth when you can so easily create it?
Only the wilfully self-deceived could see things otherwise
Searching4Truth1 1 year ago
First :)
Mattyqwertymeme 1 year ago