Bad idea. Water molecules interact within the oil and thus you create water vapor when you dab it. Water vapor inhalation can cause a multitude of non-healthy effects. Sap/Budder/Errl doesn't come too far into question if it's purged probably. Any people with pre-determined lung problems will have major problems using this concentrate. Listen to science, not your friends bullshit.
Tokecity is the best site filled with knowledge or anything having to do with Hash
this method is even talked about on there and i don't recommend it, Nuggs how do you take out the moisture and water in your budder after you put it in water please be detailed No broad statements.
This is a method that works, but why would you want the wax IN the water? I understand that the wax isn't soluble with the water, but still, that's alot of extra moisture which makes it sizzle on the nail and vape harsh. What are you gaining by putting the wax in contact with the water? Personally, I like the hot water underneath the dish to indirectly heat it without mixing water in my hash. Not to mention, some of the weight of your wax is likely to be water-weight.
For shatter you want low heat between 130-160 degrees. The time will vary. You can whip that up into budder fairly easily if desired, or just scoop it up and put it in your dish. People here like budder because they can handle it easier than shatter.
Yeah, I know most people on Toke City prefer shatter to budder. The patients here in S.D. however, seem to prefer budder. I know how to make amber glass, taffy, and budder. This new rediscovered water washing technique we're using right now seems to work very well, but just for budder.
I'm only trying to help here man, I want us all to be smoking the best of the best. Since I've been making my own oils, I look at budders/waxes from clubs as a complete joke! Shit's so nasty compared to mine and full of tane. Since I've perfected my tech and make oil, I can EASILY tell how all wax/budder is underpurged. Clear honey oil is ridiculously smooth to inhale vs even compared to the best budders I've had. I thought I knew my shit back then, but I have a much better understanding now.
My tech: Start with material DRY AS FUCK. Use a stainless steel or glass tube with unbleached coffee filters and a stainless screen to back it for blowout protection. Blast into a warm dish sitting over warm water. WARM not hot. Maintain a consistent temp between 130-160f and DO NOT touch/pop/scrape/disturb the oil in the dish until it's just about ready to dab. Over agitation and/or moisture + heat during purge causes the oil to isomerize, trapping tane and turning into wax/budder. Look it up.
@ThrottleWFO you do realize that you can take perfectly good purged shatter and turn it into budder right? its just preference but i prefer shatter as well
@domeskeetz Proper oil won't isomerize, so no, perfectly purged shatter wont turn into budder... unless it's underpurged. I've got stuff you could whip for days & it would still settle back down.
@ThrottleWFO it won't turn into this budder but it will turn into something different from shatter, your talking to someone who purges oil to shader properly I'm telling you whip your shit you will get something different from oil......its not budder, its just a different texture. and don't believe everything you read on tokecity dude all of this is opinion nobody had done controlled tested scientific experiments comparing purging and fully purged oil. for all you know your oil could still
@domeskeetz have butane in it, do you get it tested for impurities.....no
and I've seen oil that HAS been tested and it was sparking when flame tested and it still tested that the butane wouldn't do more to you than smoking with a bic flame on a bowl would......jus saying man
@domeskeetz like the amount of butane in some shitty oil, like I'm talking shitty. was so little it was the same as smoking with a bic lighter thats what i meant to say sorry a little baked but I'm just saying people make this big deal over butane if it was really that deadly so many patients would be having health problems due to the garbage sold in clubs
@domeskeetz Yeah, I hear what you're saying for sure. It's more a preference to me 'cause I can definitely taste the tane in budders and I hate the stinging in the nose you get, along with the added urge to cough. When I make sap or shatter it is a night and day difference in how smooth the smoke is. And I don't believe everything I read on TC. It's a bunch of stoners theorizing, lol, I'd be an idiot to. However there is a lot of good info that can help point you in the right direction so you
can do your own research from reputable scientific and factual sources to understand and think logically about what is happening that causes different results.
@ThrottleWFO touche hey bro I'm all with you, i hate budder I'm jus saying even if i vacuum purge and i don't like to vacuum purge i do the same shit you do almost just a little less temp and more time i gather, but i still can put any oil on this one hot plate and it seems to turn into a gritty texture not really a budder at all just a different texture from the pure sap which everyone loves.....i love sap too but its annoying to try and get a dab, so i make it a slightly different texture
@domeskeetz its just crazy to think how many people are smoking butane in lighters, and they're worried about us smoking solvents in concentrates. its like dude how many times do you smoke a bowl with a bic and your sitting here telling me I'm silly for smoking butane extracted hash.....lol total ridiculousness and i really wish someone would take all the different purge methods and run scientific controlled experiments than we could get a real understanding of whats going on
@domeskeetz Yeah, see I think when that happens a lot of compounds in the substance boil away with the heat. Not everything in it has the same boiling point so that's why the amount of heat and length of time have such a huge impact on how the final product comes out.
HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE IDEA!!!!! Sorry man, I don't mean to be a downer, but IMO that is damn near ruining the batch. I do everything possible to REMOVE moisture from my extraction process. If you ever want oil or shatter... you will NEVER get it with this tech unless you over-purge the shit out of it killing all your flavor. Budder/wax is inferior to oil. Period. Look up the purging threads on Toke City man, trust me, it'll do you good, and your future runs as well.
This batch of Larry came out really nice. It has a texture almost like beeswax. It should be very easy to handle. It also smells great. The water purging really helps bring out the smell and taste of the strain you're using. It also makes for a real smooth dab. There's almost no cough, not even a delayed cough. I was really surprised by the smoothness the first time I tried water purged wax.
how soon do you poor the water in im sick of whipin my bho forever i mite have to give this a try
cocomedigrows 6 days ago
r u fuckn serious??????????
theP650 1 week ago
Bad idea. Water molecules interact within the oil and thus you create water vapor when you dab it. Water vapor inhalation can cause a multitude of non-healthy effects. Sap/Budder/Errl doesn't come too far into question if it's purged probably. Any people with pre-determined lung problems will have major problems using this concentrate. Listen to science, not your friends bullshit.
novasec 1 week ago
still waiting for the tutorial lol this seems crazy to me
domeskeetz 1 month ago
dabcity the only one on there is you lol
Tokecity is the best site filled with knowledge or anything having to do with Hash
this method is even talked about on there and i don't recommend it, Nuggs how do you take out the moisture and water in your budder after you put it in water please be detailed No broad statements.
dedroidify 1 month ago
this method is from DabCity.com - Dab Dab City !
DabCity 1 month ago
This is a method that works, but why would you want the wax IN the water? I understand that the wax isn't soluble with the water, but still, that's alot of extra moisture which makes it sizzle on the nail and vape harsh. What are you gaining by putting the wax in contact with the water? Personally, I like the hot water underneath the dish to indirectly heat it without mixing water in my hash. Not to mention, some of the weight of your wax is likely to be water-weight.
Calibigbud 1 month ago
For shatter you want low heat between 130-160 degrees. The time will vary. You can whip that up into budder fairly easily if desired, or just scoop it up and put it in your dish. People here like budder because they can handle it easier than shatter.
Peace.
SergeantStedenko 1 month ago
Yeah, I know most people on Toke City prefer shatter to budder. The patients here in S.D. however, seem to prefer budder. I know how to make amber glass, taffy, and budder. This new rediscovered water washing technique we're using right now seems to work very well, but just for budder.
SergeantStedenko 1 month ago
I'm only trying to help here man, I want us all to be smoking the best of the best. Since I've been making my own oils, I look at budders/waxes from clubs as a complete joke! Shit's so nasty compared to mine and full of tane. Since I've perfected my tech and make oil, I can EASILY tell how all wax/budder is underpurged. Clear honey oil is ridiculously smooth to inhale vs even compared to the best budders I've had. I thought I knew my shit back then, but I have a much better understanding now.
ThrottleWFO 1 month ago
My tech: Start with material DRY AS FUCK. Use a stainless steel or glass tube with unbleached coffee filters and a stainless screen to back it for blowout protection. Blast into a warm dish sitting over warm water. WARM not hot. Maintain a consistent temp between 130-160f and DO NOT touch/pop/scrape/disturb the oil in the dish until it's just about ready to dab. Over agitation and/or moisture + heat during purge causes the oil to isomerize, trapping tane and turning into wax/budder. Look it up.
ThrottleWFO 1 month ago
@ThrottleWFO you do realize that you can take perfectly good purged shatter and turn it into budder right? its just preference but i prefer shatter as well
domeskeetz 1 month ago
@domeskeetz Proper oil won't isomerize, so no, perfectly purged shatter wont turn into budder... unless it's underpurged. I've got stuff you could whip for days & it would still settle back down.
ThrottleWFO 1 month ago
@ThrottleWFO it won't turn into this budder but it will turn into something different from shatter, your talking to someone who purges oil to shader properly I'm telling you whip your shit you will get something different from oil......its not budder, its just a different texture. and don't believe everything you read on tokecity dude all of this is opinion nobody had done controlled tested scientific experiments comparing purging and fully purged oil. for all you know your oil could still
domeskeetz 1 month ago
@domeskeetz have butane in it, do you get it tested for impurities.....no
and I've seen oil that HAS been tested and it was sparking when flame tested and it still tested that the butane wouldn't do more to you than smoking with a bic flame on a bowl would......jus saying man
domeskeetz 1 month ago
@domeskeetz like the amount of butane in some shitty oil, like I'm talking shitty. was so little it was the same as smoking with a bic lighter thats what i meant to say sorry a little baked but I'm just saying people make this big deal over butane if it was really that deadly so many patients would be having health problems due to the garbage sold in clubs
domeskeetz 1 month ago
@domeskeetz Yeah, I hear what you're saying for sure. It's more a preference to me 'cause I can definitely taste the tane in budders and I hate the stinging in the nose you get, along with the added urge to cough. When I make sap or shatter it is a night and day difference in how smooth the smoke is. And I don't believe everything I read on TC. It's a bunch of stoners theorizing, lol, I'd be an idiot to. However there is a lot of good info that can help point you in the right direction so you
ThrottleWFO 1 month ago
can do your own research from reputable scientific and factual sources to understand and think logically about what is happening that causes different results.
ThrottleWFO 1 month ago
@ThrottleWFO touche hey bro I'm all with you, i hate budder I'm jus saying even if i vacuum purge and i don't like to vacuum purge i do the same shit you do almost just a little less temp and more time i gather, but i still can put any oil on this one hot plate and it seems to turn into a gritty texture not really a budder at all just a different texture from the pure sap which everyone loves.....i love sap too but its annoying to try and get a dab, so i make it a slightly different texture
domeskeetz 1 month ago
@domeskeetz its just crazy to think how many people are smoking butane in lighters, and they're worried about us smoking solvents in concentrates. its like dude how many times do you smoke a bowl with a bic and your sitting here telling me I'm silly for smoking butane extracted hash.....lol total ridiculousness and i really wish someone would take all the different purge methods and run scientific controlled experiments than we could get a real understanding of whats going on
domeskeetz 1 month ago
@domeskeetz qq
xxwizrdxx 3 weeks ago
@domeskeetz Yeah, see I think when that happens a lot of compounds in the substance boil away with the heat. Not everything in it has the same boiling point so that's why the amount of heat and length of time have such a huge impact on how the final product comes out.
ThrottleWFO 1 month ago
HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE IDEA!!!!! Sorry man, I don't mean to be a downer, but IMO that is damn near ruining the batch. I do everything possible to REMOVE moisture from my extraction process. If you ever want oil or shatter... you will NEVER get it with this tech unless you over-purge the shit out of it killing all your flavor. Budder/wax is inferior to oil. Period. Look up the purging threads on Toke City man, trust me, it'll do you good, and your future runs as well.
ThrottleWFO 1 month ago 2
Vape dat chit mang
THEVERYANGRYPERSON 1 month ago
This batch of Larry came out really nice. It has a texture almost like beeswax. It should be very easy to handle. It also smells great. The water purging really helps bring out the smell and taste of the strain you're using. It also makes for a real smooth dab. There's almost no cough, not even a delayed cough. I was really surprised by the smoothness the first time I tried water purged wax.
Peace.
SergeantStedenko 1 month ago
larry og is my absolute favorite strain. wouldnt mind trying some of that haha
TheDankSelection 1 month ago