St. Thomas More

[angersjay]

Thank you jasmine.

[ChristIsRisenGR]

Great video Jasmine! Well done!

[simhui89]

hi boy, your video is good BUT there was some wrong facts..

One of it is that Alice Middleton had 3 "Girls" and 1 "Boy"... NOT 3 boys and 1 girl

So... GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!!

[MrWrathbone]

I've only watched half of your video and I was amused. My ancestor was Sir Thomas More, (through Anne Waterton of Auckland, New Zealand) and I'm sure (absolutely) that he himself would have been amused by your video. There are two qualities to his spirit - if you are in touch with him, humour / jest and music that he particularly loved. If he liked you and was friendly, he would tease you. And it would be tongue in cheek in manner. You've done very well to capture his spirit !

[rltrchick]

No, Sir Thomas More isn't "the same one as had William TYNDALE burnt at the stake for translating the bible into English." That would have been Henry VIII. He had Tyndale strangled and then his dead body burned in 1536. He had Sir Thomas More beheaded in July of 1535.

[bluewolf20]

Isn't Thomas More the same one as had William TYNDALE burnt at the stake for translating the bible into English. Here is a man who tried to shut up the word of God from ordinary people. Here you go here is a verse from the bible you tried to surpress.

Matthew 23:13 Jesus said :Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to"

[lollipopfop]

He believed that the Bible should be only in Latin, and the common people should not read it, because only the clergy should tell them what it said. Im sure the clergy told them the parts that suited them. Its true.

[akailayhum]

Hi Jasmine, and all around. I m amir from Pakistan. i just wathced ur Report about Sir Thomas More while searching something about Sir Thomas. Many things i loved to c or to visit i have visited them in ur Documentary report. One thing you didn't mentioned here is that A Man for All seasons A drama written by Robert Bolt. I want to c Grave of Sir Thomas More. Is it possible on youtube.

[N00DL313]

heyyy i go to saint thomas more school :)

[1Mine0]

Hi Jasmine,

Great video, you did very well.

I didn´t know very much about Thomas Moore,

only Him being a person standing firm for his own beliefs.

Just by chance i looked for Him in Youtube 2 days ago, and today (by chance) visited a friend who played in an

Orchestra a Mass in the Thomas Moore Church in Munich to celebrate his Deathday.

That sure was an interesting "coincidence".

[martinilighting]

Well thank you very much, 1mine0. i did this over two years ago, but i guess my dad left it up here because st. thomas more is the patron saint for my church. thanks for watching and im glad you enjoyed it

[JTFLUNite]

amazing video

God bless

[AndromedaMariaCarmen]

why aren't my comments showing up?

[gpwerner]

SilverDrama, why bother correcting someone when they'll just brand you a liberal instead of taking responsibility for their miseducation?

As an American teacher, I feel I can say this safely. We must have the humility of character to admit our wrongs and our mistakes if we are to be better stewards of the world. I think Sir Thomas would have told us that, if he were alive today.:)

[SilverDrama]

You keep pronouncing Parliament wrong and you pronouced Patron wrong. And you got the entire thing about Catherine of Aragon wrong...oh, and Boleyn was either Bow lynn or Bullen, and many other words were mispronounced, and the way you discribed Herny VIII when ordering More's death seemed vry off, this was okay, i enjoyed it, but it was a bit off.

[chickylovestoast]

the narrator sounds sweet and thts a compliment cuz i hate american accents

[YeOldeTune]

Who were those Lutherans? Sir Thomas More never burned any Lutheran, give names.

Martin Luther respected More and lamented his death. Luther always was a staunch supporter of Catherine of Aragon.

[AndromedaMariaCarmen]

I was certain he did- didn't he burn at least six and order the murder of 40 others?

[YeOldeTune]

No. That's not true.

[lak720]

Yes, it is true

[YeOldeTune]

So, give their names because that's untrue. Are you a Tudor fan? I am and my fave wife is Anne Boleyn.

[lak720]

As Lord Chancellor, More had six Lutherans burned at the stake and imprisoned as many as forty others. His chief concern in this matter was to wipe out collaborators of William Tyndale, the exiled Lutheran who in 1525 had published a Protestant translation of the Bible in English which was circulating clandestinely in England.

[martinilighting]

Tyndale went into hiding, possibly for a time in Hamburg, and carried on working. He revised his New Testament and began translating the Old Testament and writing various treatises. In 1530 he wrote The Practyse of Prelates, which seemed to move him briefly to the Catholic side through its opposition to Henry VIII's divorce. This resulted in the king's wrath being directed at him: he asked the emperor Charles V to have Tyndale seized and returned to England.

[martinilighting]

Although by this time, England had separated from the Catholic Church and Tyndale had some supporters in the government, the Church of England continued to fight against Lutheranism. Tyndale's friends appealed to the English government to intervene, but to no avail. More also fought against the KIng of England who desired to be praised as diety and was put to death!

[martinilighting]

Angry opposition to the facts of Thomas More's history is no comment, so I removed the fictional comments that stated More was evil and a torturer. It doesn't surprise me that Liberals will try anything to justify immorality. A urine test would usually silence the crazies!

[AndromedaMariaCarmen]

he did encourage the persecution of Protestants. IMO, that does not make him worthy of sainthood. I'm sorry if this hurts any Roman Catholics' feeling. But I agree with you- Henry did want to be worshipped as a deity.

[shadow3772]

While it doesn't hurt my feelings, I think it's silly to say he "encouraged" their "persecution." He was a man of the law, and back then, they had nothing like the equal protection clause to withhold discrimination. So, as far as he knew, he was upholding the law, and doing a good job of it. To say he encouraged persecution is to misunderstand him.

[AndromedaMariaCarmen]

ok, when you put it in that perspective then it's understandable. we're so sheltered nowadays- it would have been horrible to live back then.

[shadow3772]

I dunno. Today we have terrorism, weapons that can kill thousands in seconds, laws that, despite their 'legitimate' intentions are more costly than we can bear, incomprehensible taxes, energy crises, incurable diseases, and to top it off, a total lack of a sense of history. Personally, I would've rather lived back then. Would've been less stressful.

[AndromedaMariaCarmen]

I guess it depends on where you're coming from. I'm a woman, so back then women had no rights, unless they were queens regnant. At least in my part of the world, women have rights and I'm free to pursue any career I choose, whereas back then if my mom caught me looking at books she'd have told me to mind the stew and then married me off right away.

[shadow3772]

I think the claim that women had no rights 'back then' is dubious. Take the law of coverture for example. In Tudor England, when a woman was married, THEN her legal rights were incorporated into the man's, and her individual legal status ceased to exist. But consider: if marriage is when women's rights ceased, that presupposes they have rights prior to that point.

As for education, I agree with you, it was pretty deplorable for women. But then, it was bad for men too!

[Alekona]

Wow this takes a completely different approach to describing him than mine does. It's really good!

[YeOldeTune]

You are wrong. Tyndale execution was not his doing. Since 1533 Tyndale lived in Antwerp in the "English House". It was a man called Henry Phillips who caused Tyndale to be arrested. Tyndale was arrested in Antwerp, spent 18 months in the state prison of Vilvorde and was burnt on 6 October 1536.

Phillips was the son of a landowner in Dorset and served Charles V against the reformers. More had been executed in 1535.

[monia1]

There are some little errors though. Sir thomas More had three daughters by his first wife: Margaret (Meg) and Cecily, then a son John More II (Jack) who was about 2 years old when his mother died. Sir Thomas adopted a girl (about the same age of Margaret), also called Margaret or Mercy Giggs. He then married Alice Middleton, a widow with a daughter also named Alice or Ailie.

Anyway, it is a very nice video. Congratulations.

Monia