WES BRYAN is registered with BMI and has an intellectual properties attorney for his estate. He has written or co-written over 800 songs. Eventually as all the cowriters are contacted and agree his catalogue may be sold to the highest bidder. Believe me, as his co-writer, that though one person's memories may be different than anothers, we attempt to post only what we know to be true. One of the reasons we LINK to other people's sites is so you can read what other people have to say! CT
Ah a detractor! Was wondering, as Wes's writing partner, why ANYONE would think that posting remarks like this one would drive us to do THEIR RESEARCH FOR THEM! We are not private investigators and have made no claim to be in present contact with Peter James. I suspect James has passed away as have a great number of people from that era who Wes knew and didn't know - Jerry Capeheart, Jerry Cole, Buddy Knox, etc BUT HIS FAMILY/ESTATE is probably interested in his intellectual properties! CT
According to BMI Wes Bryan has co-written these songs -and probably some more! - with Jimmy Bowen:
"I never will", "Blue Lady", "Break down and cry", "Don´t stay away","Four walls", "Tender love", "Somebody to love" and "Just a little to big". Jimmy Bowen -who can be found on Wikipedia - has produced records for Peter James of course and also Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davies Jr. A bunch of celebrities, as someone once put it!
Lindgren33, Patrick was asking questions there about Stage Door as recently as January 2009. I read some interesting comments on the youtube video of Stage Door but I expect we're as far as we will get in solving this mystery. If there were powerful people in the music business who were party to shady deals or were turning a blind eye 45 years ago why would they tell us the truth about it now just because we want to solve a mystery? To clear their consciences? The chances are zero to none.
Lindgren33, what do you know about the Peter James single on the Warner Brothers label? It's supposedly the 7th one and was mentioned in those convoluted Honey & Wine liner notes about Stage Door. Maybe Mick Patrick didn't know either and was blowing smoke. Even I have been in the same chat room where he got that information. He was also asking others there if they thought Peter James was PJ Proby!
In my info here I use the words "perhaps" and "possibly" there is a seventh single, Warner Bros Hung on to your lovin´/Sunset Strip (1966). Now and then I google for it, but this far I´ve found nothing. So, does it exist? I can only say I hope so. You mean Yahoos Spectre-chat in 2002? Or is there another one? I guess Mick P like myself simply don´t know who Peter James is. This far :-)!
There's no way Gene McDaniels (or any other African American singer for that matter) would have recorded under the name of Peter James. You may not understand if you don't live in the US, but just give it up, folks!
shugahshak We're not saying it is Gene McDaniels,we're just saying this singer has a similar voice. As for your advice "give it up folks"........my answer is WHY?? Mysteries are there to be solved! Ron
I don't understand. The new H&W cd liner notes actually say Peter James recorded Stage Door after Tony Jackson did? Or only that the H&W track is the Peter James version thereby implying that the song was also recorded at some (either earlier or later) time by another artist?
Hi Lindgren33. Tony Jackson formed The Tony Jackson Group in 1965. Their recording of Stage Door flopped in 1965 which caused Pye Records to drop them. I don't see how that proves Peter James recorded it after Tony Jackson. Did you get your information that Jackson recorded it first from Oldham's book?
I found the information in the booklet in a new CD, the Goffin-King collection "Honey & Wine" (Ace records).¨This CD includes Peter James version of Stage Door.
Whoever Peter James was, he had an awesome voice. Did Andrew Loog Oldham write the song for him? Good choice of artists. Wish the mixer had decreased the percussion. It's awfully distracting. Maybe that was PJ Proby on the 'triangle' !!!
Hi shugahshak. I don´t think ALO wrote this song especially for Peter James. The other side of the record is Goffin-Kings Stage Door.ALO recorded Stage Door first with TonyJackson -ex-Searchers - and then used the basic track again, but now with Peter James´voice! This also answers your question on the triangle. Perhaps its Mick Jagger!!!
Great voice!!! Wonder where he is these days?
rontenn 11 months ago
I notice this song was written by Andrew Loog Oldham, he was the first manager of the Rolling Stones
taphn 1 year ago
WES BRYAN is registered with BMI and has an intellectual properties attorney for his estate. He has written or co-written over 800 songs. Eventually as all the cowriters are contacted and agree his catalogue may be sold to the highest bidder. Believe me, as his co-writer, that though one person's memories may be different than anothers, we attempt to post only what we know to be true. One of the reasons we LINK to other people's sites is so you can read what other people have to say! CT
CTNWB 2 years ago
Ah a detractor! Was wondering, as Wes's writing partner, why ANYONE would think that posting remarks like this one would drive us to do THEIR RESEARCH FOR THEM! We are not private investigators and have made no claim to be in present contact with Peter James. I suspect James has passed away as have a great number of people from that era who Wes knew and didn't know - Jerry Capeheart, Jerry Cole, Buddy Knox, etc BUT HIS FAMILY/ESTATE is probably interested in his intellectual properties! CT
CTNWB 2 years ago
According to BMI Wes Bryan has co-written these songs -and probably some more! - with Jimmy Bowen:
"I never will", "Blue Lady", "Break down and cry", "Don´t stay away","Four walls", "Tender love", "Somebody to love" and "Just a little to big". Jimmy Bowen -who can be found on Wikipedia - has produced records for Peter James of course and also Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davies Jr. A bunch of celebrities, as someone once put it!
Lindgren33 2 years ago
Peter James is Peter James and not PJ Proby says Wes Bryan who actually met the guy!
Vist Wes Bryan´s blogspot. (Sorry, can´t write the URL here).
Lindgren33 2 years ago
Lindgren33, Patrick was asking questions there about Stage Door as recently as January 2009. I read some interesting comments on the youtube video of Stage Door but I expect we're as far as we will get in solving this mystery. If there were powerful people in the music business who were party to shady deals or were turning a blind eye 45 years ago why would they tell us the truth about it now just because we want to solve a mystery? To clear their consciences? The chances are zero to none.
inc2468 2 years ago
Lindgren33, what do you know about the Peter James single on the Warner Brothers label? It's supposedly the 7th one and was mentioned in those convoluted Honey & Wine liner notes about Stage Door. Maybe Mick Patrick didn't know either and was blowing smoke. Even I have been in the same chat room where he got that information. He was also asking others there if they thought Peter James was PJ Proby!
inc2468 2 years ago
In my info here I use the words "perhaps" and "possibly" there is a seventh single, Warner Bros Hung on to your lovin´/Sunset Strip (1966). Now and then I google for it, but this far I´ve found nothing. So, does it exist? I can only say I hope so. You mean Yahoos Spectre-chat in 2002? Or is there another one? I guess Mick P like myself simply don´t know who Peter James is. This far :-)!
Lindgren33 2 years ago
great voice, loved it.
I love McDaniels and Proby but its not them...
cleavecolin 2 years ago
There's no way Gene McDaniels (or any other African American singer for that matter) would have recorded under the name of Peter James. You may not understand if you don't live in the US, but just give it up, folks!
shugahshak 2 years ago
shugahshak We're not saying it is Gene McDaniels,we're just saying this singer has a similar voice. As for your advice "give it up folks"........my answer is WHY?? Mysteries are there to be solved! Ron
rontenn 2 years ago
Yes! here Peter does sound like Gene Mc Daniels...very classy! Ron
rontenn 2 years ago
The more I listen to this singer, the more he sounds like Gene McDaniels. Why can't we find out who he is?
sherilyn1977 2 years ago
I don't understand. The new H&W cd liner notes actually say Peter James recorded Stage Door after Tony Jackson did? Or only that the H&W track is the Peter James version thereby implying that the song was also recorded at some (either earlier or later) time by another artist?
shugahshak 2 years ago
Hi Lindgren33. Tony Jackson formed The Tony Jackson Group in 1965. Their recording of Stage Door flopped in 1965 which caused Pye Records to drop them. I don't see how that proves Peter James recorded it after Tony Jackson. Did you get your information that Jackson recorded it first from Oldham's book?
shugahshak 2 years ago
I found the information in the booklet in a new CD, the Goffin-King collection "Honey & Wine" (Ace records).¨This CD includes Peter James version of Stage Door.
Lindgren33 2 years ago
Whoever Peter James was, he had an awesome voice. Did Andrew Loog Oldham write the song for him? Good choice of artists. Wish the mixer had decreased the percussion. It's awfully distracting. Maybe that was PJ Proby on the 'triangle' !!!
shugahshak 2 years ago
Hi shugahshak. I don´t think ALO wrote this song especially for Peter James. The other side of the record is Goffin-Kings Stage Door.ALO recorded Stage Door first with TonyJackson -ex-Searchers - and then used the basic track again, but now with Peter James´voice! This also answers your question on the triangle. Perhaps its Mick Jagger!!!
Lindgren33 2 years ago