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  • serious question...so is it wrong to practice magick?? why do most religions ban the use of magick?? id appreciate it if someone can clear things up for me

  • @rafa92889 because you're not worshiping an external idea, you're focused on your own well being.

  • Smh@9:26

  • Loved your absurd "Twin Towers vs. Islam" camouflaged disinfo @9:26.

    Anyone with half a brain knows by now Muslims had nothing to do with 9/11.

  • @nameofthepen I gave you a thumbs up for that comment, freind. \m/ 

  • @9funn - Thank you, kind sir! Awesome channel you've got there.

  • @nameofthepen absurd camouflaged disinfo. lol. I think you've misinterpreted the video petal.

  • @nameofthepen You should actually use that half a brain you got... you're completely missing the point. This video isn't saying that Islam is actually responsible, it's talking about the astrology behind 9/11 and what the alignments represented. 9/11 and the destruction of the twins was used by those actually responsible to demonize Islam and create fear and anger towards the middle east so that they could have their modern day crusades. Their plans coincide with the stars. It's all a ritual.

  • @DoctorSess - Thanks for the insult, dimwit. Your sort always does.

    I guess you didn't see the "Twin Towers vs. Islam" part @9:26, eh? (facepalm)

  • @nameofthepen You're welcome :-D I watched the same video you did, I saw the same part at 9:26. The difference is you misunderstood it. Re-read my previous comment more carefully.

  • @nameofthepen The video isn't saying "Islam is responsible for 9/11" AT ALL. You're misunderstanding it completely. It's saying that on 9/11, according to astrology, Saturn was opposed to Pluto. Saturn can represent "Twins" and Pluto can represent "Foreign Religion". Those truly responsible for 9/11 (the oligarchy) base their actions on astrology, so 9/11 was a good day for them to destroy the "twins" thus creating a war against a "foreign religion".

  • @nameofthepen but don't listen to me, after all I am a dimwit xD

  • @DoctorSess - 1-point penalty for illegal whinging.

    Apparently you already forgot that you flung the first turd by opening your comment to me with, "You should actually use that half a brain you got..."

  • @nameofthepen this aint a game yo... It was only intended as a lighthearted jest. That's not the point though. I didn't respond to your comment to engage in a battle of wits or personal attacks, aka a "shit flinging contest". All I really intended to do was try to help you understand the video and point out your misinterpretation of it. I hope I achieved that lofty goal, it was quite challenging hahah i apologize for offending you in the first place and forgive you for insulting me, peace.

  • @DoctorSess - You didn't.

    I've learned how to quickly size up internet windbags like you.

    Especially one who quotes MLK: /watch?v=EELhEguhU8M

  • @nameofthepen See, you've turned this into a personal argument... going to my channel and trying to find some kind of ammunition to use in this war you are waging. It's simple, you misunderstood this video. I explained it to you to the best of my abilities. If you are too proud to listen there is nothing I can do for you. It is obvious that you have some growing to do. I Love You, Goodbye :-)

  • @DoctorSess - Ciao, bella.

  • I am Japanese.

    Sorry,I can't understand this English video.

    But I just understood the person who this video made is very smart!!

    I will study English very hard.

    So I will understand this video.

  • magick is black majic and wichcraft

  • please answer this. Who have the right to give saturn or pluto a certain sign or meaning to it? its seems like a self interpretation from the ancient, and now our leaders blindly following it?

  • @phudao41 Human Ignorance

  • and why follow crowley? he was obsessed with base sex magic...sex = the sixth in latin which refers to saturn...why associate a creative act with saturn? why call our gender 'sex' ie male or female..its all word play bollox...the whole saturn system was created to keep mankind in a prISON

  • AV is very important in the saturn symbolism...ian crane uses the 2 letters in advertising his talks...i believe Crane is a mason and a golden dawner..he also spouts 911 disinfo and armegeddon bullshit..why do these guys do it...for money? or is it mind control>?

  • so john dee was supposed to be in touch with a saturn demon he called AMY...the flame bearer..probably associated with the olympic ritual...2012 will be a very important occult ritual to the demon AMY thats if it does exist...no doubt the MAYans worshipped this demon too..AMY is the 58th demon of solomon...1958 EU was formed...connection maybe

  • eh Lee mate...when are you going to tell all about your golden dawn affiliation?

  • This whole Illuminati thing is trivial bullshit for ego based fear.

  • @malkooth OKay Talk That To Your Psicologist! =D

  • =D BELIVE MAGICK IS REAL AND YOU MAKE EVERY FRACTION OF SECOND INSAID YOUR SOUL!

  • @Gabrielofdeath777 there are too many magic freaks who think they are above the rest of us...if you only knew the truth about the saturn shite you'd probably have second thoughts but then again plenty enjoy death,suffering i guess

  • @masonfreeparty Well You Talking I'm Enjoy Suffering? Realy? Well Pharaps I'm Dont Understend It AS Well..

    But..

    NOT!

    I'm Have Love And D'us In My Heart There Is No Space From Sufferning Or That Sort Of Thing!

  • man made mumbo jumbo

  • This video wasn't what I thought. Although not bad.

  • i learned south east asian magick which is different from western.we much often connected with souls,spirits or ghost

  • es yhwhe con sus dos caras unos creen que trabajan contra satan pero estan de su lado otros creen qeu trabajan con el pero estane n su contra es qeu hay otro que no es este de dos caras dios de cristianos y judios del bien y el mal el dios farsante yaveh y jehova pero no lo confundan con lucifer.

  • @AsmodeusDraco ...Deja de leer tanta gnosis, te tiene todo confundido.

  • "Rosetta West - Morning Star"

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  • as above equals as above ,would be more correct ,as the earth is above the sky.if there is up ,down in space.ha ha .

  • As above so below ... I think demons back in the days wanted to imitate what was in heaven so that people would forget how to really get to heaven and fall in ignorance...worshiping fallen angels and there so called "heavens" (hell)... anyone how is ignorant enough to think the Illuminati is a conspiracy, desires to die, the Babylons were the 1st masons... no wounder the tower of babel was built somewhere in the region... I just hop the Mayans are wrong aboot the come back of kukulkan on 2012...

  • @joeschvanm Possibly.Though I would suggest that the very nature of a phrase such as "as above so below" intrinsically suggests reflection.Each state reflected in the other.However,it is also a projection of our considered consciousness.The mind has projected a meaning onto stars or constellations "above", beyond their "mundanity".The mind projects a meaning on things which are above,that also project their light and that light has a reflection below, in consciousness.

  • i'm a muslim , i want to know if this is true from 7:30 to 9:30. this all seems true, just wondering, i hope someone can give me a good answer.

  • Hey! Pluto was discovered in 1930. If it has any occult meanings, they are less than 100 years old. And it was never recognized or even seen by the ancients. So my question is, who determined what Pluto "represents"? Hmmm...

  • @todfennell Crowley: "Pluto is the utmost sentinel of all; of him it is not wise to speak. ...Having now given vent to this sibylline, obscure and sinister utterance, it may well be asked by the greatly daring: Why is it not wise to speak of Pluto? The answer is profound. It is because nothing at all is known about him."

  • @GPEGEMGTM3 Could you give me name of the book that quote is from please?

  • @zezt "Eight Lectures on Yoga."

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  • some say that they are reincarnating the Egyptian gods through cloning the DNA of ancient mummies... Obama is allegedly Akhenaten, and there are some similarities..

    also to Michelle and her supposed egyptian link,. freeman discusses it.

  • Because this true wisdom of the Lord can operate and perform its effects every day, and at any moment and second. The gates of his grace are daily open, he wisheth, and it is pleasing unto him to aid us, as well on this day as on the morrow; and in no way could it be true that he desireth to be subjected to the day and hour which men would wish to prescribe for him; seeing that he is the master to elect such days as he himself wisheth, and also may they be sanctified!

  • Let me get this straight. All seekers who do not seek the mainline explainations are mad or unstable. But it's okay to support systems that have resulted in more deaths yet again!

  • I have to say it. Science is also man made mumbo jumbo. But it is sad that science and it's followers are so closed minded. I often wonder if the very one god attitude so prevalent in Christianity, Islam and Judaism didn't transfer to science in some peoples minds.l Who's to day more than one man made explaination is not right?

  • people... if you dont believe, get off the page. if you do, stop replying to the jerks who wanna bash it.

  • If "magic(k)" had any effect whatsoever beyond the damage it causes to the believer's already fragile psyche, the likes of scientists (people who spend their entire lives actually investigating the properties of existence) would have already proven it, perfected it, and made use of it to a striking degree.

    As the situation stands, the only people who claim magic(k)al abilities are the deficient, the hedonistic, and the insane, all of whom turn to it in desperation or in desire for attention.

  • @ogith do you really need to go on a video and bash it this baddly? like really, *all* the people who believe in magick are crazy. thats really far fetched..

  • @4nicemagic

    I did not say that everyone who believed it are crazy, but rather that all who claim to have the ability to use some kind of reality-revisioning force labeled as magic(k) are either deluded, consciously manipulative of others, or simply mentally unstable.

    I say this because this is what the subculture regarding magic(k) actually looks like, with its masses of desperate folks seeking easy solutions or magical explanations, the hedonists seeking excuses for their behavior, etc etc

  • @ogith Is it possible or reasonable to suggest that a critical study of nature & human condition/habitat paired with a commitment to self improvement of mind body and soul- if you will, is inconsistent with improving our culture, our environment, and our understanding of others independent our our beliefs? Charlatans or Takers as I like to refer to them, exist within and outside of organized religion and "cults". your thoughts?

  • @ogith you can't say that they would have discovered the secrets to magick by now. thats not fair. they have yet to discover/prove/disprove the existence of "God", what *exactly* is beyond our galaxy, what happens when something is sucked into a black whole... we are only human. you've put your trust in science as these people have with magick. just let them be. nobody is knocking your methods/beliefs.

  • @aliaschic

    The existence of the classical imagery of god(s) has been largely disproven, as the things god(s) were explained as being the cause of have all been proven to be brought into being by purely natural, non-deific, forces. As such, the definition of what a god is has been muddied and pushed further and further away from the natural world, to the point that "god" now somehow exists "outside reality", putting it safely outside the reach of evidence, experimentation, and criticism.

  • @aliaschic

    And yes, I can say that they should have discovered/proven magic(k) by this point, because claims of its veracity has existed since times immemorial, yet not even once throughout the entirety of human existence has it been proven to be anything other than confusion over natural forces or outright lies

    In fact, we can see this in the history of "modern" magick to a degree, as nearly everyone is almost afraid of giving examples of its uses, as that would leave it open to experiment.

  • @aliaschic The number of non-intutitve observations that science or a critical approach make are both continous and (directly) proportional. The more you learn, the more you realize you do not know. I would ask anyone particularly linear thinkers "How do you know what you do not know?" "Have you ever done something?, you know...made something happen?

  • Why Pluto?

  • So be on Earth,As is in Heaven!

  • Okay..so if you are all some fucking wizards then use some of that magick to fix our economy..

  • @redultraman Why waste energy on people who don't even care? They create their own problems, they can fix them.

  • @HauntingHalloween And what exactly can you do with your "energy"? Give pointless advices and make shallow excuses?

  • @IP6000 You mean "advice"? I'm a selfish person. I admit it. Cry me a river.

  • @HauntingHalloween "Advice" has no plural form? There's so much to learn...

    As for you, the word "looney" would describe you somewhat better. You can of course fool yourself into thinking that the reason for your magickal passivity is laziness, egocentrism etc. but it's really just you being unable to do anything that goes beyond the physical... physickal, if you will.

  • @IP6000 Lulz I'm looney as fuck broski.

  • @HauntingHalloween It shows.

  • @IP6000 :)

  • You try waaay too hard

  • @HauntingHalloween You wanna talk some more? No surprize there. What exactly am I trying way too hard? Please clarify.

  • @IP6000 You mean "surprise", idiot.

  • @HauntingHalloween Wow. Tense. Aren't you trying waaay too hard?

  • @IP6000 Obviously you're no better if you keep on replying :)

  • @HauntingHalloween I keep replying because I'm bored. Hey, how about applying some magicks here?

  • @IP6000 bored with your life

  • @HauntingHalloween Hardly. My imagination is not as limited to be bored with my life. How do you cope with yours, anyway? By believing in silly things like magick, is that it?

  • @IP6000 I'm not the one looking up shit on youtube that I don't believe in and find silly

  • @HauntingHalloween I doubt your ways of having fun are better than mine. Consider it a research of modern bullshit.

  • @IP6000 derpa derpa hur

  • @redultraman These wizards only can cast spells like "protection from alcohol-caused nausea" and never drink alcohol thereafter. "Protection from polar white bears" also works fine as long as they don't go to the North Pole or other white-bear-populated areas. And, of course, the infamous "protection from dragons". Up till now not a single wizard has been killed or even injured by a dragon. So it works, you see.

  • Humans believe in the dumbest shit.

  • @Adamillionaire123 and you have no idea what he really meant by that.

  • Hey there- at 2:23-2:33 there is a visual of the planets moving in their orbit in relation to each other-

    how can i find something like this that i can look at in depth???

  • YES!!!!!!

  • Wow, even utube has an All Seeing Eye, it's right there under the number of likes.

  • As above, so below.

  • I love this video. Its really interesting.

  • Believing in god and in magick is just like believe in harry potter both are creations of our immagination creations of human they dont exist!!!!!

  • @Georgiominas1 magic is just the science we do not understand...we are all brain cells in God's gray matter.

  • @DoctorSess there are no brain cells in gods gray cause there is no god we are only flesh and bones nothin more no soul no spirit nothing we created god cause we fear death nothing more but unfortunatly there is no after life nothing after death wake up!

  • @Georgiominas1 matter does not make mind...mind over matter. we are finding this is the truth.

  • @Georgiominas1 Nice try. The difference between religion and magic, is religion is faith based. If you're magic's not working, there's absolutely no reason to believe it. Magic is results based.

  • @seeqer66 and you have try magic and worked?Also magick is based on religion about help of spirits demons etc!

  • @Georgiominas1 Yes, I've practiced magic for over 30 years. I get results regularly. As far as magic being based on religion, you're at least half right. Most magic from ancient times was religious in nature. Over the years, several systems were developed that didn't have as much, or even ANY connection with deity or religion. I prefer the Bardon, hemetic system, myself, but I recommend Chaos Magic to those just trying to figure out if it works. Plenty of books for free online.

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  • "at a time when wise men peered through glass tubes toward the sky

    the heavens changed in predictable ways and one man was able to find

    that he had thought he found the answer and he was quick to write his revelation

    but as they were scrutinized in his colleagues eyes he soon became a mockery

    don't tell me about the answer

    'cause then another one will come along soon

    I don't believe you have the answer

    I've got ideas too"

    G Graffin /watch?v=S2a3q0nIsoM

  • Can anyone tell me what is going on with this video? watch?v=Jzfj4R52Q6I

    It's supposed to be about some kind of holographic quantum gravity, but it seems there's something weird about it. It describes the world as a hologram and suggests that it can be "hacked." Several of my friends have been saying it's actually Hermetic Magick disguised as physics.

  • @DrakillT Yah I know, and yes they do.

  • @DrakillT The Illuminati are real but they go by a different name now. Just to let you know.

  • The Free Masons are NOT The Illuminati. The square and compass are masonry tools, nothing more. When people search for some thing they will begin to see it every place they look. True Magick has deeper roots that are not even discussed here. You need to do better research.

  • 9/11 was a plan of US government. it is nothing to do with magick.

  • @MRyansanayi what do you mean it was a plan? But I do agree had nothing to do with magick.

  • @markmfulcher As the word says mater is something that exist something mesurable not some unknown force!and i say again i disagre only to the religions cause i believe that we invented gods cause we fear of death and the unknown nothing more!There are no gods demons or magick!!!!!Proove me wrong if you have the answers make some magick show me the gods and demons!!!!!

  • @Georgiominas1 I am a Warlock, be careful what you ask for. The demons that can appear in your head are real enough.

  • @markmfulcher First my friend i dont tell that i know lot of thing i said science knows things about space and ofcource not all!!!!But some day they will know a lot of things!Second dark matter exist not as a word of the missinng univers but as a real matter!!!!!And finally i disagre to all religions cause i believe that we invented gods cause we fear of death and the unknown nothing more!There are no gods demons or magick!!!!!

  • @Georgiominas1 ok lol please increase your grammer it hurts to read it and you don't need all the !!!!!!!!! and your free to have your opinions no matter how unsupported they are. :)

  • @beauguthery yes im sorry for the bad english im from greece its not even my 2nd language!Why my opinion is unsuported and yours is supported atleast science has proofs with the expiriments magick what has as proofs?

  • @Georgiominas1 Meany but we don't publicize them.

  • @WarlockVex Why you dont publicize them? I mean real proofs not immaginations and dont tell me about demons cause i ve tryed evereything solomons lesser key Kundalini Goetia invocation ouija board and nothing works cause there is nothing no spirit world or demons or soul in us no gods there is only this world with nothing supernatural in it!

  • @Georgiominas1 Occult = Secret. That's why. It's better when people don't believe, it's easier to cast on them lol.

  • @WarlockVex Lol great argument and proofs!!!!!

  • @Georgiominas1 Honestly, I don't care if you believe or not, that's my point. I've practiced the Occult for 23 years and I had teachers older then my grandparents would be. All the book are only half truths and don't instruct you completely.

    Do you believe in energy/electricity? It's the base of all things, and control/manipulation of it is what Magick is. At the time of death a human body looses 1 to 2 ounces that can not be accounted for, the weight of a human soul. That, science proved.

  • @WarlockVex Yes i believe in energy but energy has no concious or will energy cant harm or benefit anyone that is prooved by science and the 1 to 2 ounces you loose are the liquids you loose when you die nothing more no soul also prooved by scince!!!!!

  • @Georgiominas1 No not liquid nor waste as proven in a scientific study, I do believe at Yale. Directed energy can, and lightning can kill. For being into science you seem a little stupid...

  • @WarlockVex lol ofcourse we humans know nothing yet but science will find the answers!But if you know something about magick pls sow them to me send meenergy a demon a spirit something to me!

  • @Georgiominas1 Why do you wish to be worked over? This is vary unwise. I have put people in a mental institution before...

  • @WarlockVex Cause i want to see a demon cause i dont believe in superstitions we are in 2012 not in the medievil there are no such thing as magick god demons etc!But i like to see what if you can proove me wrong!!!!!

  • @WarlockVex cause i want to proove to you and to the others who believe in superstitions of the medievil that there is nothing supernatural in this world so pls proove me wrong if you can send me a spirit a demon something!!!!!

  • @beauguthery We are the proof :) infact many things magicians knew in the middle ages scientists just figured out around 19 century(1801-1900) and the 20th century(1901-200). Want my proof? many cross references and research into magick and the occult in general. Books such as "Grimoire for the young wizard"(not really a good one but does have some nice info) and one of the most known books about magick "Modern Magick" shows and proves this. I also never said mine are supported.

  • @beauguthery  Agreed

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  • @WarlockVex Why do you call your self a warlock? Your pagan right? -_- might not want to mention that to the others lol. Warlock means traitor and/or oath breaker XD

  • @beauguthery Unless you are Scottish ;) then it means male Witch. I am vary much Scottish thank you.

  • In a young girls heart?

  • This is fantastic!

  • Wake up ppl there are no gods or godesses you believe in astrology and gods that were believed before 4000 years com on then they believe that the sun was a god now you know its a star we have the science now that explains everything or will explain all the mysteries some day!religions are only rules that invented by humans to control us so WAKE UP there is nothing supernatural!(sorry for my bad english)

  • @Georgiominas1 science will never explain everything but maybe one day it will understand alot more.

  • I think we all worship the same God...he has many names and is understood in different ways, but no matter what different religions call it, they all refer to the same God. So it's not important how you worship or what you call your worship, but the fact that you do worship. True prayer has no words or thoughts involved. You don't ask for things and tell God what you want. You let all thought go and consciously relate to God through this eternal moment.

    -O.I.A.A.I.O-

  • @IChIDH I'm a polytheistic pagan, so no. I have meany Gods and Goddesses, all of them not the same being.

  • @WarlockVex Fair enough, lemme ask you this...since most gentiles in the world stopped praying to many gods and now only pray to the god of Israel, do you think it has given the Israelites god unbalanced power?

  • @IChIDH No because I have called out to every god in every religion and that is the only one who doesn't come. This leads me to only one conclusion, he is a false god.

  • @WarlockVex So you called out to allah and he came? Please tell me what gods answered your call and in what ways did they answer?

  • @IChIDH Well to list them all would be ridiculous. So to tell you the ones who did not answer, Jesus, Ya Way, Allah, Ra, Elohim, Zeus, Satan, Buddha, Tiamat, Lucifer and Voodoo Loa did respond but they don't like me much. Spirits and Gods respond in meany different ways. Each one gave me a different experience. The best probably being the Goddess Brigid. I am specifically a Paleo-Druid A lot of my Deities are my ancestors. If a God or spirit can appear and show me there power, my faith they have

  • @WarlockVex I am curious to know how they answered you, and how you knew for sure it was that god or spirit, and not something else.

  • @IChIDH Only women create, why would it not be a she not a he?

  • @michael616joaquin Fair enough...I think it's probably more of an IT...man and woman are human concepts.

  • @IChIDH Well no, gender is based on physical difference. However, we all have creative power and balance each other. Hence the square and compass, the female and male energy.

  • @michael616joaquin Energy is energy, it may have differences but it's still energy. Humans reduce everything to its smallest parts so it can be labeled, and more easily understood...but I think we take it too far, and lose what's important. If there is only one god force, why does it have to be male or female? Personally I think it's probably just a force, no gender...possibly not even consciousness as we understand it.

  • @IChIDH the Creator. the infinite universe is designed intelligently. Love is the greatest force, truth is freedom. Everything is a choice.

  • @DoctorSess That's sounds nice but if love is the greatest force, which I would like to think it is, then why isn't it in control?

  • @IChIDH We are in control, it is our choice. Love/hope is more powerful than hate/fear will ever be. One candle lights up an entire room.

  • @IChIDH God of this World is Satan lucifer! Your statement definatly refers to this God It's an easy excuse for someone to say that we all can find God in out own way. The real God Jesus Christ(son and savior of the triun God), is the Creator, God, and God sets the precident, not us. He made us , and He makes the rules! THis Earth is run by Lucifer. He is the evil one that everyone blames Jesus for evil in this World, Thereal God is coming to burn up those who find their own way! Evilsatan also

  • @godwithme777 You sound brain washed with jewish propaganda my friend. No book ever written knows the truth about god, or any more than you or I. I don't blame jesus for anything...he was a man just like us. I suggest doing some history research and don't get all your facts from one source, the bible. I mean if you really read the bible you find it's all about slavery and how to properly buy a woman and blah blah...we have evolved.

  • Astrology has been around for thousands of years. Pluto is one of the most powerful celestial bodies. See what I'm getting at?

  • Government conspiracy or magic...

    Obviously the only two possibilities :P

  • If thou shalt perfectly observe these rules, all the following Symbols and an infinitude of others will be granted unto thee by thy Holy Guardian Angel; thou thus living for the Honor and Glory of the True and only God, for thine own good, and that of thy neighbor. Let the Fear of God be ever before the eves and the heart of him who shall possess this Divine Wisdom and Sacred Magic.

  • @Alkhemist10 ????

  • @Alkhemist10 Who's God, Jesus the dead Megus?

  • Magick =/= NWO/Illuminati/etc

    It can only be considered that in opposition to Christianity; which, as we all know, is NOT the only religion out of the 192 countries of this world.

    Mysticism is the natural act of letting oneself slip in to the stream latent to all experiences in existence. Only nefarious if you believe a police-state God is judging you, when he only knew you'd end up doing it anyway.

  • again some idiot doesn't know the difference between illuminati and freemasons

    just for that i stopped watching

  • Your mind has so much depth. 

  • wow this is such a BS thing, symbols only have power because we have given then that. Stars and planets have no baring on our actions other than the outrageous meanings that we have given them. Their mystical power is no more real than the actors who read scripts in a so called "reality show"

  • @KRiderMan1248

    Peace and love

    One day you will experience something profound and unexplainable

    One day your perception of this world will be cleansed

    One day you will understand

    Peace

  • @KRiderMan1248 What your saying is statistically horse shit. The moon sets the tides and affects womens' periods so why couldn't the other planets have an influence as well?

  • @michael616joaquin Because in all of mankinds history, this magical bull shit has never been proven to be true. Hell there is a foundation set up that will give you 1 million bucks if you take some tests and prove that you have real powers. Its been there for years and no one has ever claimed it. Im sorry but its not horse shit just because your opinion differs from mine.

  • @KRiderMan1248 Well what i stated was a fact. You seem to be confused, the challenge was for "psychic" powers to be proved. Science HAS proved the effect of the moon on the Earth.

  • One of my concerns is how people become lost in the symbols and miss what is behind. It is a limitation-one of the aspects of CHAOS magick is to shift belief-how one can make anything convincing-its a question of choice-people seem to get lost and confused in the objective/subjective lie-everything IS BOTH. As AC said so pithily THERE IS NO GOD BUT MAN-

  • Very good material here for spiritual growth.

  • Also, consider the Pentagon building. Each sephira on the Tree of Life has an associated geometric construct. The pentagon is associated w/ Geburah, the 5th Sephira. It is the Sephira of Severity, the King on his war chariot, and it corresponds with Marz, the God of War. Look at an image of the Pentagon from above. Then look at the Kabbalistic Tree of Life & decide for yourself if this is a Kabbalistic design or not.

  • too zenbugi,my friend you said that storie well,soft spoken! lol