Black Hat DC 2010: Exploiting Lawful Intercept to Wiretap the Internet 1/6

[bigdav123456]

none of this should be posible until a criminal offense by the person being monitored has been proved.! Until that time this is unlawful.!

[tuseroni]

well guilty til proven innocent is the model of security, but not the model of freedom. the two are opposed.

if everyone is considered guilty and suspect, then everything can be monitored and nothing missed (the white list model, only trusted things can be exempt) if everyone is considered innocent how do you determine who is guilty.

wire tapping is terrible, censoring the internet is terrible, and i will take freedom over security and safety any day!

[joe80dman]

So, we're all GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT? We're all potential CRIMINALS unless we're continually monitored? The 4th Amendment is null & void? Why is Cisco mentioning European laws? Europeans have their laws, and we have our 4th, and 5th Amendments.