Although the author of the video would do well to explain these things to us since left to each individual it is simply a string a sermon clips with which we would either agree or disagree, based on our backgrounds, indoctrination, and the preachers and teachings with which we've accustomed ourselves and by which we have made camp. And thus we are American believers.. divided we stand.
You know, most Christians will jump on a bandwagon against one preacher or another simply because they saw this YouTube video or that, which deemed a particular individual worthy of death by stoning, not having looked into these things for themselves or having any personal conviction. However, do you suppose that we might need to ascend above carnal reason to understand the silent indictment being laid against these men by the making of such a video? ... cont'd
Oh, how amusing. Presumably the maker of this video thinks all these preachers are "bad". I'd point out that they are VASTLY different. from each other Todd Bentley and Mark Driscoll and Brian Mclaren? What exactly is your point? Who you think is a "sound" preacher? because I bet I can find another video on youtube which things they are heritic...
I saw a lot of problems with several of these supposed Pastors, but I don't see, in this video, how what two of them were saying was wrong or unscriptual. I don't know his name, but the guy who was talking about respecting women, seemed to be on target and Joel Osteen's speach didn't sound heretical.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't the Holy Spirit that empowered the one guy to heal by kicking people in the face.
How these guys can be allowed to preach beggars belief! the guy at 2:54 sounds like complete nutter!! I dont want laugh at this but with the music on top of it LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL somebody scoop me up off the floor!!
Brian McClaren :O are you kidding me!! the cross is false advertising??!!!
@FearNTrembling80 BRINGING IN THE GOATS HAS NEVER BEEN BETTER AS DRISCOLL DUPLICATES SEATTLES EMERGENT ROCK CHURCH SCENE TO PORTLAND OREGON – I GUESS THEY HEARD THERES SINNERS TO CODDLE THERE TOO ! THIS WAR IS NOT AGAINST DRISCOLLS FLESH & BLOOD MMA TYPES- PLEASE LISTEN CLOSELY: DRISCOLL IS NOT THE VOICE OF ALMIGHTY GOD :))
I RECOMEND THIS - JOHN MACARTHUR - ROB BELL RICK WARREN MARK DRISCOLL SERMON JAM
@cats9900 ya, that still didn't answer my questions? Nor did it relate to your first initial comment. But your standard for what should be preached is contrary to the Bible and to what Jesus and the disciples often did; expose corrupt teachers! Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.Its shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. everything exposed by the light becomes visible&everything that is illuminated becomes a light! Ephesians 5
@PastorPHWomble Eph. 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
ok, so still not sure why you are calling a mark driscoll a heretic and part of the "emergent" church. he would actually be considering to be part of the emerging church- BIG difference. mostly because of their reformed theology. in regards to eph 4:29, what is coming out of driscoll's mouth is not unwholesome. he is challenging men to lead their families well and to be godly with their conduct. i'm not sure how that is exactly an evil thing.
@davidkgriffith Eph. 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
wow, apparently you do not know what you are talking about if you are comparing driscoll with these other nut jobs...have you ever read a whole book by mark or listened to one full sermon. the guy obviously loves jesus and preaches scripture.
@davidkgriffith Eph. 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
Eph 5:3 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving
also, if you apply eph 5:3 to mark, you'll have to apply it to paul when he calls the galations "foolish" and our "righteous acts" menstrul rags and dog poop
@MRWBBIII Driscoll is rebuking men who abuse the women in their lives; physically, emotionally, and sexually. Along with these winners he's yelling at the "Christian" guys in his church who have come out for years, but are involved with sexual sin with their girl friends. He is a pastor who is rightly hating sin. Is it wrong to yell at someone to stop them from sin?
@vladdy3 Eph. 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
Eph 5:3 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving
@MRWBBIII if you look in the greek, paul used harsh words, and also, i think its acceptable if men beat their women, to use harsh language. you obviously havent listened to any other mark driscolls sermons, cause he is all about Jesus
@Jman3000 Eph. 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
Eph 5:3 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving
I suppose that is true, but he is talking to men that abuse women. While he may said things out of his anger, I don't think he is wrong. Would not his yelling be constructive toward a change in these men's their heart?
@MRWBBIII Eph 5:3 Means that it should not be present in mans heart. Not that we can not recognize it and help other rid it. Named among you in that tense means that it should not be found among the Sons of God. Not that it should not be corrected by a mans words if it is found.
@MRWBBIII Lastly, he is a calvinist just like John Piper which probably means in your mind "heretic". You should spend less time judging true men of God and focus that energy on true false teachers like Osteen, McLaren, Jakes, Hinn, Bentley, etc.
@MRWBBIII@MRWBBIII watched a few of them, really didn't hear anything wrong. So here's a hunch... you don't like his style, you don't agree with the type of music he plays in worship, you don't agree with his dress. So he must be a heretic.
For the record I wouldn't do everything or say everything that he says from the pulpit. I think some of it crosses a line and he tries to be too relevant. But as one who has listened to many messages, every time he gets to the gospel (every sermon) it is rock solid and right on.
@MRWBBIII yeah that's a great verse and it unfortunately characterizes much of evangelical America. However, I have grown up with solid Reformed biblical preaching. Sure there are some things that Driscoll does, and I have listened to several sermon series in their entirety (have you?), and says that cross the line but not even close to heretical. We have to be careful with that term.
@savedbygrace1977 Eph. 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
Eph 5:3 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving
I challenge you to watch or listen to the 13 part series on Doctrine.
Speaking of fruit this man does a TON for the kingdom of God. But, quite frankly, I am not sure how to take your post, perhaps you are saying that I have itching ears and will be tossed to and fro by bad doctrine, perhaps you are saying that Driscoll has no fruit, perhaps you are saying both. I will wait for clarification before responding to something that was not intended.
I just want you to be clear on this, Emerging Church and the heretical EmergENT church are two different things...there is even an interview with him about the difference between the two on his youtube account...Violent Bruiser??
DRISCOLL HAS GONE FROM EMERGENT TO EMERGING NOW RESURGENCE!! AND WHO KNOWS WHAT HE WILL EVOLVE INTO NEXT..? HE HAD TO FIGHT PEOPLE TO GET TO SCHOOL GROWING UP- BORN FROM A LONG LINE OF "VIOLENT ALCOHOLIC RED NECKS" HIS OWN WORDS, AND STILL YELLS AT HIS FLOCK WITH ABANDON UNDER GUISE OF TEACHING..? PRAY HE WILL STOP WEARING SACRILEGIOUS & SATANIC ROCK T-SHIRTS TRYING TO ATTRACT SINNERS! HE IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS!!
Although the author of the video would do well to explain these things to us since left to each individual it is simply a string a sermon clips with which we would either agree or disagree, based on our backgrounds, indoctrination, and the preachers and teachings with which we've accustomed ourselves and by which we have made camp. And thus we are American believers.. divided we stand.
MrLonelyeagle 2 weeks ago
You know, most Christians will jump on a bandwagon against one preacher or another simply because they saw this YouTube video or that, which deemed a particular individual worthy of death by stoning, not having looked into these things for themselves or having any personal conviction. However, do you suppose that we might need to ascend above carnal reason to understand the silent indictment being laid against these men by the making of such a video? ... cont'd
MrLonelyeagle 2 weeks ago
Driscoll shouldn't be on this. But everyone else is a joke. I can see a multitude of angels slapping their palms on their heads haha
lowbattery34 1 month ago
2:06 I would get up and walk out.
IrenaPrude 1 month ago
Oh, how amusing. Presumably the maker of this video thinks all these preachers are "bad". I'd point out that they are VASTLY different. from each other Todd Bentley and Mark Driscoll and Brian Mclaren? What exactly is your point? Who you think is a "sound" preacher? because I bet I can find another video on youtube which things they are heritic...
stu1002 2 months ago
I saw a lot of problems with several of these supposed Pastors, but I don't see, in this video, how what two of them were saying was wrong or unscriptual. I don't know his name, but the guy who was talking about respecting women, seemed to be on target and Joel Osteen's speach didn't sound heretical.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't the Holy Spirit that empowered the one guy to heal by kicking people in the face.
TheRoninshaman 4 months ago
How these guys can be allowed to preach beggars belief! the guy at 2:54 sounds like complete nutter!! I dont want laugh at this but with the music on top of it LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL somebody scoop me up off the floor!!
Brian McClaren :O are you kidding me!! the cross is false advertising??!!!
thelasthourgetready 4 months ago
@FearNTrembling80 BRINGING IN THE GOATS HAS NEVER BEEN BETTER AS DRISCOLL DUPLICATES SEATTLES EMERGENT ROCK CHURCH SCENE TO PORTLAND OREGON – I GUESS THEY HEARD THERES SINNERS TO CODDLE THERE TOO ! THIS WAR IS NOT AGAINST DRISCOLLS FLESH & BLOOD MMA TYPES- PLEASE LISTEN CLOSELY: DRISCOLL IS NOT THE VOICE OF ALMIGHTY GOD :))
I RECOMEND THIS - JOHN MACARTHUR - ROB BELL RICK WARREN MARK DRISCOLL SERMON JAM
MRWBBIII 5 months ago
Sometimes Mark Driscoll annoys me!
BibleTruth9 1 year ago
this is circus.. with lots of different actors.. some how that is not funny .. very worried for American nation
KISTOVI 1 year ago
@cats9900 ya, that still didn't answer my questions? Nor did it relate to your first initial comment. But your standard for what should be preached is contrary to the Bible and to what Jesus and the disciples often did; expose corrupt teachers! Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.Its shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. everything exposed by the light becomes visible&everything that is illuminated becomes a light! Ephesians 5
TrinMin777 1 year ago
Love the music : "Entry of the Gladiators".
k0smon 1 year ago
Why did I see Mark Driscoll in this video? Whoever puts him in the same category as Joel Osteen obviously doesn't understand doctrine.
Bsafer5 1 year ago
Mark Driscoll is not an emergent church leader. He is a man of sound doctrine and a wonderful man of Christ.
PSUIVERSON 1 year ago
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@PastorPHWomble Eph. 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
MRWBBIII 1 year ago
ok, so still not sure why you are calling a mark driscoll a heretic and part of the "emergent" church. he would actually be considering to be part of the emerging church- BIG difference. mostly because of their reformed theology. in regards to eph 4:29, what is coming out of driscoll's mouth is not unwholesome. he is challenging men to lead their families well and to be godly with their conduct. i'm not sure how that is exactly an evil thing.
davidkgriffith 1 year ago
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@davidkgriffith Eph. 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
MRWBBIII 1 year ago
wow, apparently you do not know what you are talking about if you are comparing driscoll with these other nut jobs...have you ever read a whole book by mark or listened to one full sermon. the guy obviously loves jesus and preaches scripture.
davidkgriffith 1 year ago
@davidkgriffith Eph. 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
Eph 5:3 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving
MRWBBIII 1 year ago
also, if you apply eph 5:3 to mark, you'll have to apply it to paul when he calls the galations "foolish" and our "righteous acts" menstrul rags and dog poop
davidkgriffith 1 year ago
@philwicklund What about him asking "Who the hell do you think you are?" Cursing in the pulpit is never acceptable!
okarroll 1 year ago
@MRWBBIII Driscoll is rebuking men who abuse the women in their lives; physically, emotionally, and sexually. Along with these winners he's yelling at the "Christian" guys in his church who have come out for years, but are involved with sexual sin with their girl friends. He is a pastor who is rightly hating sin. Is it wrong to yell at someone to stop them from sin?
vladdy3 1 year ago
@vladdy3 Eph. 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
Eph 5:3 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving
MRWBBIII 1 year ago
@MRWBBIII if you look in the greek, paul used harsh words, and also, i think its acceptable if men beat their women, to use harsh language. you obviously havent listened to any other mark driscolls sermons, cause he is all about Jesus
SAM135073 1 year ago
Why is Mark Driscoll in this video?
Jman3000 1 year ago
@Jman3000 Eph. 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
Eph 5:3 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving
MRWBBIII 1 year ago
@MRWBBIII
I suppose that is true, but he is talking to men that abuse women. While he may said things out of his anger, I don't think he is wrong. Would not his yelling be constructive toward a change in these men's their heart?
Jman3000 1 year ago
@MRWBBIII Eph 5:3 Means that it should not be present in mans heart. Not that we can not recognize it and help other rid it. Named among you in that tense means that it should not be found among the Sons of God. Not that it should not be corrected by a mans words if it is found.
Stuballs84 1 year ago
@MRWBBIII look up the word Paul used to describe all his works prior to knowing
Christ,
at times it is beneficial. k:)
Mark Driscoll is in the right place to say that.
Stinkko 1 year ago
@MRWBBIII Lastly, he is a calvinist just like John Piper which probably means in your mind "heretic". You should spend less time judging true men of God and focus that energy on true false teachers like Osteen, McLaren, Jakes, Hinn, Bentley, etc.
savedbygrace1977 1 year ago
@MRWBBIII @MRWBBIII watched a few of them, really didn't hear anything wrong. So here's a hunch... you don't like his style, you don't agree with the type of music he plays in worship, you don't agree with his dress. So he must be a heretic.
savedbygrace1977 1 year ago
For the record I wouldn't do everything or say everything that he says from the pulpit. I think some of it crosses a line and he tries to be too relevant. But as one who has listened to many messages, every time he gets to the gospel (every sermon) it is rock solid and right on.
savedbygrace1977 1 year ago
@savedbygrace1977 WILL HAVE ITCHING EARS-YOU WILL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT-
MRWBBIII 1 year ago
@MRWBBIII yeah that's a great verse and it unfortunately characterizes much of evangelical America. However, I have grown up with solid Reformed biblical preaching. Sure there are some things that Driscoll does, and I have listened to several sermon series in their entirety (have you?), and says that cross the line but not even close to heretical. We have to be careful with that term.
savedbygrace1977 1 year ago
@savedbygrace1977 Eph. 4: 29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
Eph 5:3 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving
MRWBBIII 1 year ago
@MRWBBIII
I challenge you to watch or listen to the 13 part series on Doctrine.
Speaking of fruit this man does a TON for the kingdom of God. But, quite frankly, I am not sure how to take your post, perhaps you are saying that I have itching ears and will be tossed to and fro by bad doctrine, perhaps you are saying that Driscoll has no fruit, perhaps you are saying both. I will wait for clarification before responding to something that was not intended.
savedbygrace1977 1 year ago
Really? Mark Driscoll???
Zonebone 2 years ago
Really? Mark Driscoll???
YEAH, THE AUTHOR OF "VINTAGE JESUS" AND SELF PROFESSED VIOLENT BRUISER & FOUNDER OF THE EMERGENT MOVEMENT! !!!
MRWBBIII 2 years ago
I just want you to be clear on this, Emerging Church and the heretical EmergENT church are two different things...there is even an interview with him about the difference between the two on his youtube account...Violent Bruiser??
Zonebone 2 years ago
I just want you to be clear on this:
DRISCOLL HAS GONE FROM EMERGENT TO EMERGING NOW RESURGENCE!! AND WHO KNOWS WHAT HE WILL EVOLVE INTO NEXT..? HE HAD TO FIGHT PEOPLE TO GET TO SCHOOL GROWING UP- BORN FROM A LONG LINE OF "VIOLENT ALCOHOLIC RED NECKS" HIS OWN WORDS, AND STILL YELLS AT HIS FLOCK WITH ABANDON UNDER GUISE OF TEACHING..? PRAY HE WILL STOP WEARING SACRILEGIOUS & SATANIC ROCK T-SHIRTS TRYING TO ATTRACT SINNERS! HE IS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS!!
MRWBBIII 2 years ago