Military breeds best of the best pilots and everything is run like to exact standards and everybody is highly trained and follows exacting standards and is like a ballet and the team is all closely knit where as in civlian its highly varying in accuracy and you often find exacting standards not being met. Best of the best pilots will be military and always have been. Im not saying its not possible to be a pilot without military but they have the best training and precise teams. civil dont match
That's probably accurate for a US regional pilot, but life is definitely better if you're flying long haul for one of the majors. The video has good comedy value though. Made me laugh.
All so true. I did this for 5 years, just couldn't take it anymore. These days I'm in IT making good money. It takes a special kind of person to be able to do all that time away from home, 20/30 days a month depending on seniority and if you have to commute to your base. If you are considering this career path, there is only one universal truth I can give you. DO NOT GET YOUR COLLEGE DEGREE IN FLYING, HAVE A BACKUP PLAN! THE AIRLINES DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR DEGREE IS IN, ONLY 4 YEAR NEEDED.
This is a trick video. There's one laugh at the beginning, so we think it's funny. Then what follows is a depressing rant from a depressed pilot. He's right, of course. I'm sitting in a hotel room right now drinking wine and wondering why the hell I'm a pilot as well. But then I remember - every job sucks. But being a pilot sucks a lot less.
from what i have heard a commercial license is youre lottery ticket to win this game. i've heard there's no guarante a license and thousands of hours will guarante you an airline job. its the sheer number of applicants applying for limited places like many jobs at the moment with an ever increasing population but this job obviously has limited places. sometimes airline stop hiring for sometimes ten years straight if they dont need more pilots. its clearly very limited spaces
@210482fmj You'll find work as a pilot, that's a game won as long as you have a license and a clean record. But you have to be willing to relocate anywhere the job needs you, and also willing to get paid very poorly. As for airlines, that depends on your character, presentation, and most of all, contacts. Knowing an airline pilot who puts a recommendation in for you puts you at the top of the pile. Just be sure you really want to fly airlines, as there are far more interesting jobs in aviation.
You no what, delauren1228 mate, you fly in america, i am a pilot in new zealand. I fly 777's and i love it, it is the best job ever and before you say wait and see, I have been flying for 18 years and am currently a captain. I have never missed an important moment in my kids life and have never been divorced. Flying in america is crap so mate if you are a pilot then why dont you move to another country and see how it feels.
That was depressing, albeit the reality of the ‘profession’. But this is the society we’ve build for ourselves: one that tells you to strive for a ‘good’ job (without necessarily telling you which jobs those will be in ten or twenty years), however forgetting that someone has to do the shitty jobs. That said, maybe we really were better off subsistence farming and dying of smallpox and polio?
How about looking outside the cockpit to make money? You choose to be a pilot because it was a passion you had since a child or it looked glamorous from some stand point in your life. If I'm wrong, please let me know.
I love to fly; but when you do it for money, it just becomes a job.
So much of this is "tongue in cheek" true. But airline pilots are ABSOLUTELY professional. I worked my butt off to get there, and worked my butt off while there. Unfortunately though, I wouldn't do it over again if I had the chance. This career choice has ruined me financially, and you don't realize how rough the time away from home is until you go through it. No one to blame but myself.
This video makes me so glad I decided to be a Helicopter pilot instead.... Wait a minute... never mind... allot of the same BS except you have to fly in the middle east to make any money...have to live in a compound for your safety (much like a prison) only homemade booze.... yeah... never mind, being a pilot sucks all the way around. great video!
This video makes me so glad I decided to be a Helicopter pilot instead.... Wait a minute... never mind... allot of the same BS except you have to fly in the middle east to make any money...have to live in a compound for your safety (much like a prison) only homemade booze.... yeah... never mind, being a pilot sucks all the way around. great video!
Crude truth of becoming an airline pilot or us regional pilots to be exact but it sure beats the hell out of sitting in the cubicle for a good 8 hours a day 5 days/week ;p
@kimuragenru Why do you think that if you're not flying that you're going to be sitting in a cubicle somewhere. Do you have any idea how many better jobs there are than flying that don't involve sitting in a cubicle? That mentality is what airline, 135 carrier, and charter managements pray on. The idea that "Well, this sucks, but it's got to be better than anything else I can do." If pilots could realize that they don't have to put up with the shit in the video, things would get better.
I imagine this guy flies for Delta. I believe they went on strike somewhere around 2005. It was either Delta or Continental, but it was definitely a legacy carrier, and there haven't been too many airline strikes in recent memory.
Whoever made this obviously has a very low opinion of the profession. Spot on in some cases, but probably laid off and resentful towards the unions and the profession. Most airlines USED to require a 4 year degree but now it's just something on a resume that might make you look better.
This is what ought to be playing on all of those flat screens in the terminals instead of that liberal bullshit on CNN (aka Clinton News Network)!!! But the cattle, sorry, the public doesn't want to hear the brutally honest truth. They just want to hear how they can save $3 on their flight and how "all is well" with the economy/country!!!!
I think this video is trying to give aspiring pilots a realistic view of what CAN be expected.
A new pilot, especially with the budget "feeder" airlines, lives a very unglamorous life.
Granted, with the major airlines, and experience, things get a lot better, but you need to be able to handle a few years of this hardship, and a lot of people don't realize this reality when signing up for (expensive) flight training.
This is bullshit. Totally compiled from individual remote anecdotes, and a bunch of whiny shit...also "bitter middle-aged women" and venereal disease and having to hear gay people go at it every night.
Then pure fabrication of lies: "You don't even need a college education or a high school diploma"...LIE. You need at least a four year degree.
F/Os don't talk about their personal lives while taxiing the aircraft down the runway.
This video is to keep people from becoming pilots.
@hovertrain7 Really? Are you a pilot, do you know? Because I am. And you don't need a 4 year degree (though I do have one, I know many who don't....also know one who only has a GED). And F/O's talk about all kinds of things while taxiing......yeah, sterile cockpit, I know.
@Cherry3z I'm a corporate pilot in the Citation Bravo, Sovereign, and Ten. Tell me WHAT AIRLINE in the U.S. hires pilots now with less than a two year degree. 97% or more have 4 year degrees. Sure, there's your tiny fraction of exceptions. Let me ask you, what aircraft did you do your IOE ride in? How many multi-engine hours did you have when you applied to your company? What hazard is imposed by super-cooled large water droplets? I just don't buy all your negativity. NON realistic.
@hovertrain7 I did my IOE in a 747. My company hired me straight out of Embry Riddle, I had 250 hours, 100 multi-engine. It's a foreign airline, but I'm not allowed to say the name as part of my contract. And of course, the hazard of super-cooled large water droplets is they can put the fires out in the engines, leading to engine stall.
@yupiie I have made a good living in comparison to other poeple I know,but the real problem with being a professional pilot is the inability to move latterally.You just can't keep quitting jogs to move up to a better job because the business is so ever changing and senority is still everything.
I have made bigger sacrifices than my curent job compensates me for,but it is what it is.I am trapped like a rat with 24 years at the same place push'in 50.
@hovertrain7 Holy shit, there is absolutely no way you're a pilot. Please send me a list of airlines that require a 4 year degree and I'll send you at least 2 times as many that don't. Why would even think to post something like that without fact checking first?
@cptnbennett none of the airlines actually REQUIRE it but you wont get hired by a major unless you have it, so if u dont want to fly for the shitty regional airlines ur whole life then get the 4 year degree.
@cptnbennett I have to agree with hovertrain7. American regionals may not list a 4 year degree on their web site; however, in order to get hired, all have a 4 year degree, unless you can "fill a quoda".
@captainmorgan757 They may say they prefer a bachelors degree, but you cannot tell me that if you exceed the minimums, and the demand calls for it, that they will not hire you.
@hovertrain7 most pilots have 4 year degrees to make them competitive for hire but you dont NEED one, anyone can be trained to fly the only reason thy want u to have one is so they know ur somewhat trainable. You can have your degree in PE for shits sake, thts the point hes trying to make
when i went on a long flight with a layover , the pilots and cabin crew of not only airfrance but 2 other airlines stayed in the hotel i was in (5 stars), not exactly a budget
Some of this is true, but it sounds like the creator works for a shitbag bottom feeder regional. Hey, but it's a quick upgrade, right? That what you get if you apply somewhere like that. Try to get on somewhere with a decent contract that's not trying to steal everyone else's flying, or shut the fuck up.
My guess is WhitenoiseRT is a new-hire RJ copilot, young 20's with 1,000 hours or so.Give it a few years and you'll see there is no future to this profession. You will eventually experience everything in this video! Unless you're the type that has no life and wears his uniform at the mall on days off, then you're just blind to reality. Good for you, I wish I was too!
My guess is WhitenoiseRT is a new-hire RJ copilot, young 20's with 1,000 hours or so.Give it a few years and you'll see there is no future to this profession. You will eventually experience everything in this video! Unless you're the type that has no life and wears his uniform at the mall on days off, then you're just blind to reality. Good for you, I wish I was too!
This video is pathetic and will become a self-fulfilling prophecy if that's what you really think of yourself. I commented before and for 2 weeks I've tried to see the humour but now I just despair for your generation and the future of our profession. Have some dignity. Force people including your employer to give you the respect you deserve. This job still requires much more than what the average person on the street is capable of delivering.
I felt I needed to watch this again after just now being assigned another 3 day trip away from home after just coming off a 3day trip yesterday. So much for being home for less than 12 hrs. Add that in the next video please.
This explains EXACTLY why I left the airlines...it's absolutely spot on. How I miss the 34K/year, the roaches in my Chattanooga hotel room, the smell of urine and coffee spiced with just the right amount of jet fuel. Ah yes the parkway at 3 am on my way to work, the 4 accidents I was in while riding the airport buses....the food poisoning, long delays for per diem pay ($1.50 hr), scheduling calls in the middle of the night, sleeping on a fart filter couch in the crew room..etc. etc. etc.
I was an Airline Pilot for 25 years and while there are some sacrifices it's not a bad job. If you choose not to live where you're based, as I did, then you have to deal with the commuting and all the crap that goes with it, but that's a personal decision.
As far as ALPA goes, the only thing I got from those assholes was a pay cut, a stupid magazine once a month, and the pleasure of paying them a couple of thousand dollars a year in union dues.
I was an Airline Pilot for 25 years and while there are some sacrifices it's not a bad job. If you choose not to live where you're based, as I did, then you have to deal with the commuting and all the crap that goes with it, but that's a personal decision.
As far as ALPA goes, the only thing I got from those assholes was a pay cut, a stupid magazine once a month, and the pleasure of paying them a couple of thousand dollars a year in union dues.
This was so funny and accurate! All you guys whining about this video sound like union reps or airline management, or the typical primma donna mainline fuddy-duddy. Get a life, have a laugh, and lighten up!
What this video described was basically a glorified truck driver and even in the trucking industry they call you a professional driver just to make you feel better and it's not really a profession just like being a pilot isn't.
And I know that the job is definitely misunderstood by most of the population. Complain all you want about the conditions, fatigue, bad rooms, but do NOT sell yourselves short by saying you aren't professionals and anyone can do the job. It's not true and you aren't helping your case for better conditions this way. Do me a favor, quit so people like me can have a shot. You can try my IT job out any day and tell me how much better life is when your view is limited to the gray walls of a cube.
While you may deal with so called dirty and shoddy hotel rooms, some people have to deal with commuting through downright dangerous and disgusting subway systems to get to work every day. Corporate america isn't any better... Trust me. Those "management" types you speak of I am required to hold their hand and kiss their ass EVERY DAY. At least in a cockpit 100s of miles away from them you don't have to kiss their shoes or pick up their dry cleaning. Work in general sucks (continued...)
I agree with whitenoiseRT. I am an IT person for a commercial real estate company and also a private pilot and judging by the fact that many people I work with don't even know the difference between a "hard drive" and the actual "computer", I can guarantee you that 95% of the morons in our world don't have the mental capacity to get even just a Private Pilot license let alone all the way thru ATPL. Try sitting in a cubicle 5 days a week and kissing ass first, solving problems second.
This was painful to watch. Painful because there are elements of truth and humour but also because it's an unfair exageration of how things are, even after the dark decade we just suffered.
Can anyone be a pilot as asserted here? Ask any flight instructor and they will tell you "no". Even at the PPL level only about a third of the people who walk into the flying club have what it takes. What is the drop-out rate at an aviation college or miltary selection program? You sell yourself short.
Consider the training you endure even after you're licensed- initial, transition, recurrent. Every 6 months you're forced to demonstrate that you have what it takes. And it takes dedication from a focused professional as evidenced by the continued hull losses throughout the industry. Even the "automatic" airplanes require a high degree of knowledge and training. Speaking as a ten-year Airbus captain/30 year airline pilot- I know that few people off the street have what it takes to do this job.
Sounds like pilots are stuck up their own arses to me. This only highlights how for some reason pilots think too highly of themselves and how wrong it is they're subjected to certain requirements, when really they are just glorified bus drivers.
Stop complaining and start your own airline!!!
Personally I think they are inherently insecure and rely heavily on the pantomime uniform and ability to throw people off the aircraft. Yak.
So true. Luckily I realized that many years ago. Love flying but not that much.That's why I never was interested in being one. Like watching the idiots on Ice Pilots. Get serious. Aviation finally paid off for me flying 172's on Pipeline patrols. Make more than any regional Captain and some airline ones. Also have more hours than most of them...ha.
I decided Im gonna apply to the CHP after watching this. After 5 years as a regional FO with no upgrade in sight and 10 years working as a pilot I still have not broken 50,000 a year. I am not a professional, time to grow up and get a real job. Everybody who says this video is inaccurate.....well they don't work for a regional airline. And by the way you aren't gonna go to a regional just for a few years and upgrade and go straight to a major.
OMG! This video is hysterical. After seeing this, I swear that they made this video based on poor Spirit pilots which is a reflection on the company's poor treatment of it's employees! The creator of this video was very careful not to name Spirit or any other airline but the description of our Spirit pilots is dead on! LMAO!!!
@wineandflyguy Actually, they need to play this video for every person getting ready to hit the SUBMIT button on the Sallie Mae website for that $50k flight training loan.
@WaketoWakes let me get this, you are a pilot, and you are down? c ´mon, you guys are the coolest. you can do things normal people are not ready to do. you can fly a goddamn plane! this is no easy task!
Some of it hits the mark - bed-bugs, crashpads, living out of a wheelie bag, medical issues.
I'm actually in our version of a crashpad on Bath Road next to Heathrow as I type.
Not sure I want to burst 'teamoeli007's bubble but - even we in Big Airways do fly to some pretty awful places. As for being positive about the job - pension trashed - paycut 2 years ago with little prospect of getting it back - working longer hours and more days - hardly see the family - yeah, i'm really positive :/
It depends entirely in which airline or where are you flying. I don't think a Lufthansa or British Airways pilot visit boring places... and about the autopilot, it's different to operate and to fly... you can fly an A320 the same way as a 727, but it dependes in how you let technology affect your flying... anyway all said in this video dependes on where are you flying and how you fly and how positive or positive you are about your job...
@jeremyb14120 So much of a passion that they will fly for free? Take pay cuts? Take the real pilots that have a back to stand up to management for more pays' jobs? If this is BS, why are so many people saying it's spot on?
Sad thing is this is not too far from the truth. Things will never change until ALPA and the rest of the unions go to a national senority list and that will never happen. After 12 years of this b.s. Im about to say "peace out."
Tsamsootru,absolutely not. I said ATP's were professional by definition. So is a CFI or anyone who qualifies to fly for pay. The video insinuates otherwise.
@gruibingen no, sorry, being a pilot is a vocation. the only professions are law, medicine, and accounting. this is a technical distinction and plenty of vocations pay much more than these
LOL. I was sitting in Delta ATL crew room and saw this. Another pilot came up and said "hey my son does coke and my first wife blames me". Our Newark hotel is being sprayed for bed bugs. We looked at our shoes and they all looked beat up. A little too realistic. I may be that guy. Sigh.
You left "Regional" out of the title. This was my life 16 years ago when I started as a "Commuter" pilot (there were no "regionals" back then). Life as a professional (yes, technically the word "professional" applies to ATP's) pilot is much better once you progress past that level. Unfortunately, the regionals have taken over so much of the domestic flying that escaping them has become more difficult.
If military pilots are so great why are there so many military aircraft crashes related to pilot error?...that's what I thought
alcmann1 23 hours ago
love this so much!!
2gethrwecnchngthwrld 3 weeks ago
Military breeds best of the best pilots and everything is run like to exact standards and everybody is highly trained and follows exacting standards and is like a ballet and the team is all closely knit where as in civlian its highly varying in accuracy and you often find exacting standards not being met. Best of the best pilots will be military and always have been. Im not saying its not possible to be a pilot without military but they have the best training and precise teams. civil dont match
210482fmj 3 weeks ago
@210482fmj What's your point?
cptnbennett 6 days ago
@cptnbennett military are best of the best pilots
210482fmj 5 days ago
@210482fmj Why are you posting that on this video? This video has nothing to do with which pilots are better.
cptnbennett 5 days ago
The truth hurts and is f'n funny
dfwsf3fo 1 month ago
That's probably accurate for a US regional pilot, but life is definitely better if you're flying long haul for one of the majors. The video has good comedy value though. Made me laugh.
ComedicInstincts 3 months ago
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CaptainMetalwing 3 months ago
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CaptainMetalwing 3 months ago
A few hours of flight training?!?!!
voldemort2123 3 months ago
this is all true...maybe a bit dramatic, but all true
tomtom5418 4 months ago
i hope they are not serious about this.
LiamKroes 5 months ago
@LiamKroes no LOL !
0oCrimsono0 5 months ago
this is gay as fuck
IMACOOLBOY12 5 months ago
OMG now i know for sure that being a pilot is my dream job!! Calling the school right now!Thanks!!
ogdemigod 5 months ago
i hate this
DiamondPilotDan 5 months ago
Good video except the laugh track
pinksbfc 6 months ago
All so true. I did this for 5 years, just couldn't take it anymore. These days I'm in IT making good money. It takes a special kind of person to be able to do all that time away from home, 20/30 days a month depending on seniority and if you have to commute to your base. If you are considering this career path, there is only one universal truth I can give you. DO NOT GET YOUR COLLEGE DEGREE IN FLYING, HAVE A BACKUP PLAN! THE AIRLINES DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR DEGREE IS IN, ONLY 4 YEAR NEEDED.
tom110111 6 months ago
This is a trick video. There's one laugh at the beginning, so we think it's funny. Then what follows is a depressing rant from a depressed pilot. He's right, of course. I'm sitting in a hotel room right now drinking wine and wondering why the hell I'm a pilot as well. But then I remember - every job sucks. But being a pilot sucks a lot less.
pdaigletuttle 6 months ago 6
@pdaigletuttle And there are an absolute ton of jobs that suck way less than being a pilot.
cptnbennett 4 months ago in playlist So You Want To Be A Airline Pilot
Jaded John is the Lester Burnham of the airline industry.
TotallyGWB 6 months ago
WOW NOW I DO WANT TO BE A PILOT!!!!!
laurenhetland 7 months ago
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
johnzoubek 8 months ago
still would be a pilot, cause i'm still lonely as hell T-T
justin22619 8 months ago
from what i have heard a commercial license is youre lottery ticket to win this game. i've heard there's no guarante a license and thousands of hours will guarante you an airline job. its the sheer number of applicants applying for limited places like many jobs at the moment with an ever increasing population but this job obviously has limited places. sometimes airline stop hiring for sometimes ten years straight if they dont need more pilots. its clearly very limited spaces
210482fmj 9 months ago
@210482fmj You'll find work as a pilot, that's a game won as long as you have a license and a clean record. But you have to be willing to relocate anywhere the job needs you, and also willing to get paid very poorly. As for airlines, that depends on your character, presentation, and most of all, contacts. Knowing an airline pilot who puts a recommendation in for you puts you at the top of the pile. Just be sure you really want to fly airlines, as there are far more interesting jobs in aviation.
pdaigletuttle 6 months ago
You no what, delauren1228 mate, you fly in america, i am a pilot in new zealand. I fly 777's and i love it, it is the best job ever and before you say wait and see, I have been flying for 18 years and am currently a captain. I have never missed an important moment in my kids life and have never been divorced. Flying in america is crap so mate if you are a pilot then why dont you move to another country and see how it feels.
futureemiratespilot 10 months ago
I doubt that. Any of it.
thankgodthatsover 9 months ago
@futureemiratespilot Agree with you mate
Qantas963 8 months ago
That was depressing, albeit the reality of the ‘profession’. But this is the society we’ve build for ourselves: one that tells you to strive for a ‘good’ job (without necessarily telling you which jobs those will be in ten or twenty years), however forgetting that someone has to do the shitty jobs. That said, maybe we really were better off subsistence farming and dying of smallpox and polio?
medzshakes 10 months ago
How about looking outside the cockpit to make money? You choose to be a pilot because it was a passion you had since a child or it looked glamorous from some stand point in your life. If I'm wrong, please let me know.
I love to fly; but when you do it for money, it just becomes a job.
touchngonw66 10 months ago
Lots of this depends on the airline. Some airlines do put crew up in crappy hotels but some do use 5* hotels.
16MattC 11 months ago
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I didn't know that Glenn Beck moonlights as an airline pilot or that Will Ferrell wants to!
LeftyStratPlayer 11 months ago
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LeftyStratPlayer 11 months ago
yes yes turn as many people off about being a pilot so that i can be one easily!
wtficantgetausername 1 year ago 14
@wtficantgetausername hahahahaha my exact thought man!
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tom110111 5 months ago
9:41 To spend more time with gay men than gay men spend with gay men.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
cptnbennett 1 year ago
So much of this is "tongue in cheek" true. But airline pilots are ABSOLUTELY professional. I worked my butt off to get there, and worked my butt off while there. Unfortunately though, I wouldn't do it over again if I had the chance. This career choice has ruined me financially, and you don't realize how rough the time away from home is until you go through it. No one to blame but myself.
flyoverjoe 1 year ago
This video makes me so glad I decided to be a Helicopter pilot instead.... Wait a minute... never mind... allot of the same BS except you have to fly in the middle east to make any money...have to live in a compound for your safety (much like a prison) only homemade booze.... yeah... never mind, being a pilot sucks all the way around. great video!
KIOWA317 1 year ago
This video makes me so glad I decided to be a Helicopter pilot instead.... Wait a minute... never mind... allot of the same BS except you have to fly in the middle east to make any money...have to live in a compound for your safety (much like a prison) only homemade booze.... yeah... never mind, being a pilot sucks all the way around. great video!
KIOWA317 1 year ago
Crude truth of becoming an airline pilot or us regional pilots to be exact but it sure beats the hell out of sitting in the cubicle for a good 8 hours a day 5 days/week ;p
kimuragenru 1 year ago
@kimuragenru Why do you think that if you're not flying that you're going to be sitting in a cubicle somewhere. Do you have any idea how many better jobs there are than flying that don't involve sitting in a cubicle? That mentality is what airline, 135 carrier, and charter managements pray on. The idea that "Well, this sucks, but it's got to be better than anything else I can do." If pilots could realize that they don't have to put up with the shit in the video, things would get better.
cptnbennett 1 year ago
I imagine this guy flies for Delta. I believe they went on strike somewhere around 2005. It was either Delta or Continental, but it was definitely a legacy carrier, and there haven't been too many airline strikes in recent memory.
cptnbennett 1 year ago
Obviously, made by an experienced pilot! Hilarious and cynical!
B17b25guy 1 year ago
Obviously, made by an experienced pilot!
B17b25guy 1 year ago
Whoever made this obviously has a very low opinion of the profession. Spot on in some cases, but probably laid off and resentful towards the unions and the profession. Most airlines USED to require a 4 year degree but now it's just something on a resume that might make you look better.
MrExspert 1 year ago
This is what ought to be playing on all of those flat screens in the terminals instead of that liberal bullshit on CNN (aka Clinton News Network)!!! But the cattle, sorry, the public doesn't want to hear the brutally honest truth. They just want to hear how they can save $3 on their flight and how "all is well" with the economy/country!!!!
captainmorgan757 1 year ago
THIS IS ALL FACT WHERE I WORK.
This is the condensed version of the book all pilots,(where I work) wish they could write.
There is not one part of this vid that does not apply to my life.
If I made this vid it would be identical!
trdutch 1 year ago
Us A&P mechanics work 13:20 hours a day but at least we get payed 13:20 hours.
(3 days a week max. Overtime a possibility)
cripplehawk 1 year ago
This is me.
bajesus666 1 year ago
Any job paying £50 - £100,000 per year is not expected to be fun. But flying for an airline is not exactly a boring job?
EinkOLED 1 year ago
@EinkOLED 50-100 UK dollars??!! Where do I sign up??!?!!?
captainmorgan757 1 year ago
Actually I mentioned 50 - 100,000. Which actually means 50,000 - 100,000 GBP.
Any airline that pays any flight crew 50 - 100 GPB per year would be an airline best to avoid!!!
But piloting a passenger jet in varying weight/weather/temperature/runway length/elevation configurations deserves a very hefty pay package.
EinkOLED 1 year ago
@EinkOLED if u watched the next video you would see y the money achually sux
theknifekid 1 year ago
depressing and true :(
cripplehawk 1 year ago
Hahahaha.... I wonder if a real pilot made this?? It's hilarious how freaking sarcastic it is still
PCgam3r14 1 year ago
I think this video is trying to give aspiring pilots a realistic view of what CAN be expected.
A new pilot, especially with the budget "feeder" airlines, lives a very unglamorous life.
Granted, with the major airlines, and experience, things get a lot better, but you need to be able to handle a few years of this hardship, and a lot of people don't realize this reality when signing up for (expensive) flight training.
femanvate 1 year ago
This is bullshit. Totally compiled from individual remote anecdotes, and a bunch of whiny shit...also "bitter middle-aged women" and venereal disease and having to hear gay people go at it every night.
Then pure fabrication of lies: "You don't even need a college education or a high school diploma"...LIE. You need at least a four year degree.
F/Os don't talk about their personal lives while taxiing the aircraft down the runway.
This video is to keep people from becoming pilots.
hovertrain7 1 year ago
@hovertrain7 Really? Are you a pilot, do you know? Because I am. And you don't need a 4 year degree (though I do have one, I know many who don't....also know one who only has a GED). And F/O's talk about all kinds of things while taxiing......yeah, sterile cockpit, I know.
Cherry3z 1 year ago
@Cherry3z I'm a corporate pilot in the Citation Bravo, Sovereign, and Ten. Tell me WHAT AIRLINE in the U.S. hires pilots now with less than a two year degree. 97% or more have 4 year degrees. Sure, there's your tiny fraction of exceptions. Let me ask you, what aircraft did you do your IOE ride in? How many multi-engine hours did you have when you applied to your company? What hazard is imposed by super-cooled large water droplets? I just don't buy all your negativity. NON realistic.
hovertrain7 1 year ago
@hovertrain7 I did my IOE in a 747. My company hired me straight out of Embry Riddle, I had 250 hours, 100 multi-engine. It's a foreign airline, but I'm not allowed to say the name as part of my contract. And of course, the hazard of super-cooled large water droplets is they can put the fires out in the engines, leading to engine stall.
Cherry3z 1 year ago
@hovertrain7 hehe... means less competition for us.
PCgam3r14 1 year ago
@hovertrain7 are you a pilot?
yupiie 1 year ago
27 years worth
trdutch 1 year ago
@trdutch is it a good profession?
yupiie 1 year ago
@yupiie I have made a good living in comparison to other poeple I know,but the real problem with being a professional pilot is the inability to move latterally.You just can't keep quitting jogs to move up to a better job because the business is so ever changing and senority is still everything.
I have made bigger sacrifices than my curent job compensates me for,but it is what it is.I am trapped like a rat with 24 years at the same place push'in 50.
trdutch 1 year ago
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@hovertrain7 YOU ARE VERY NAIVE.
trdutch 1 year ago
@hovertrain7 Holy shit, there is absolutely no way you're a pilot. Please send me a list of airlines that require a 4 year degree and I'll send you at least 2 times as many that don't. Why would even think to post something like that without fact checking first?
cptnbennett 1 year ago
@cptnbennett none of the airlines actually REQUIRE it but you wont get hired by a major unless you have it, so if u dont want to fly for the shitty regional airlines ur whole life then get the 4 year degree.
theknifekid 1 year ago
@cptnbennett I have to agree with hovertrain7. American regionals may not list a 4 year degree on their web site; however, in order to get hired, all have a 4 year degree, unless you can "fill a quoda".
captainmorgan757 1 year ago
@captainmorgan757 They may say they prefer a bachelors degree, but you cannot tell me that if you exceed the minimums, and the demand calls for it, that they will not hire you.
cptnbennett 1 year ago
@cptnbennett I know at least a dozen of pilots that have no year degree. Great pilots, but no degree. Still they are waiting...
captainmorgan757 1 year ago
@cptnbennett I know at least a dozen of pilots that have no four year degree. Great pilots, but no degree. Still they are waiting...
captainmorgan757 1 year ago
@hovertrain7 most pilots have 4 year degrees to make them competitive for hire but you dont NEED one, anyone can be trained to fly the only reason thy want u to have one is so they know ur somewhat trainable. You can have your degree in PE for shits sake, thts the point hes trying to make
theknifekid 1 year ago
when i went on a long flight with a layover , the pilots and cabin crew of not only airfrance but 2 other airlines stayed in the hotel i was in (5 stars), not exactly a budget
hotel at 100 euro a night (135$)
Squarestudios1 1 year ago
Some of this is true, but it sounds like the creator works for a shitbag bottom feeder regional. Hey, but it's a quick upgrade, right? That what you get if you apply somewhere like that. Try to get on somewhere with a decent contract that's not trying to steal everyone else's flying, or shut the fuck up.
mach78fl370 1 year ago
So friggin' true.
Sike78 1 year ago
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My guess is WhitenoiseRT is a new-hire RJ copilot, young 20's with 1,000 hours or so.Give it a few years and you'll see there is no future to this profession. You will eventually experience everything in this video! Unless you're the type that has no life and wears his uniform at the mall on days off, then you're just blind to reality. Good for you, I wish I was too!
barelymovin 1 year ago
My guess is WhitenoiseRT is a new-hire RJ copilot, young 20's with 1,000 hours or so.Give it a few years and you'll see there is no future to this profession. You will eventually experience everything in this video! Unless you're the type that has no life and wears his uniform at the mall on days off, then you're just blind to reality. Good for you, I wish I was too!
barelymovin 1 year ago
This video is pathetic and will become a self-fulfilling prophecy if that's what you really think of yourself. I commented before and for 2 weeks I've tried to see the humour but now I just despair for your generation and the future of our profession. Have some dignity. Force people including your employer to give you the respect you deserve. This job still requires much more than what the average person on the street is capable of delivering.
whitenoiseRT 1 year ago
Yep.... Spot ON!!!
Check Check Check.....
Pandemonium8888 1 year ago
As an airline pilot for 20 years....WOW...this sums it all up! It is 100% accurate. Sooner or later, all pilots will experience what "he said".
barelymovin 1 year ago
I felt I needed to watch this again after just now being assigned another 3 day trip away from home after just coming off a 3day trip yesterday. So much for being home for less than 12 hrs. Add that in the next video please.
calltipv2 1 year ago
This explains EXACTLY why I left the airlines...it's absolutely spot on. How I miss the 34K/year, the roaches in my Chattanooga hotel room, the smell of urine and coffee spiced with just the right amount of jet fuel. Ah yes the parkway at 3 am on my way to work, the 4 accidents I was in while riding the airport buses....the food poisoning, long delays for per diem pay ($1.50 hr), scheduling calls in the middle of the night, sleeping on a fart filter couch in the crew room..etc. etc. etc.
n17ny 1 year ago
I was an Airline Pilot for 25 years and while there are some sacrifices it's not a bad job. If you choose not to live where you're based, as I did, then you have to deal with the commuting and all the crap that goes with it, but that's a personal decision.
As far as ALPA goes, the only thing I got from those assholes was a pay cut, a stupid magazine once a month, and the pleasure of paying them a couple of thousand dollars a year in union dues.
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whtfsh765 1 year ago
@whtfsh765 Everything you said about ALPA is true and if they would have instituted a national senority list this vid would look very different.
I'm 24 years with my current and things could never be worse.It is now a bad job and I blame ALPA.and greed.
trdutch 1 year ago
I was an Airline Pilot for 25 years and while there are some sacrifices it's not a bad job. If you choose not to live where you're based, as I did, then you have to deal with the commuting and all the crap that goes with it, but that's a personal decision.
As far as ALPA goes, the only thing I got from those assholes was a pay cut, a stupid magazine once a month, and the pleasure of paying them a couple of thousand dollars a year in union dues.
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whtfsh765 1 year ago
This is depressing!
Sue71 1 year ago
thats why i want to be a bush pilot
tgmack 1 year ago
LMAO..
faisalnahian 1 year ago
Try working at AT&T as a service tech and you will appreciate being a pilot.
basimpsn 1 year ago
Hilarious!!
user432a 1 year ago
Why Will Ferrell wants to be an arline pilot? He´s a very good comedian.
deutsche747 1 year ago 3
This was so funny and accurate! All you guys whining about this video sound like union reps or airline management, or the typical primma donna mainline fuddy-duddy. Get a life, have a laugh, and lighten up!
TheMacpilot 1 year ago 2
That was really too long and boring...
alphafloor71 1 year ago
So if being an airline pilot isn't a good job, should I consider charter pilot instead?
MacBooker4444 1 year ago
@MacBooker4444 same diff. except you make less money and it even worse
theknifekid 1 year ago
Only slightly better than selling insurance as a retired colonel to young kids on a Marine base. Haaaa
Beadwindow2020 1 year ago
Indeed
Beadwindow2020 1 year ago
As a 30yr Airline Pilot I was laughing so hard I could hardly breathe! Spot on, Youngens take note, extremely accurate video!
wildhawg50 1 year ago
What this video described was basically a glorified truck driver and even in the trucking industry they call you a professional driver just to make you feel better and it's not really a profession just like being a pilot isn't.
ipaxton 1 year ago
And I know that the job is definitely misunderstood by most of the population. Complain all you want about the conditions, fatigue, bad rooms, but do NOT sell yourselves short by saying you aren't professionals and anyone can do the job. It's not true and you aren't helping your case for better conditions this way. Do me a favor, quit so people like me can have a shot. You can try my IT job out any day and tell me how much better life is when your view is limited to the gray walls of a cube.
DJA984 1 year ago
While you may deal with so called dirty and shoddy hotel rooms, some people have to deal with commuting through downright dangerous and disgusting subway systems to get to work every day. Corporate america isn't any better... Trust me. Those "management" types you speak of I am required to hold their hand and kiss their ass EVERY DAY. At least in a cockpit 100s of miles away from them you don't have to kiss their shoes or pick up their dry cleaning. Work in general sucks (continued...)
DJA984 1 year ago
I agree with whitenoiseRT. I am an IT person for a commercial real estate company and also a private pilot and judging by the fact that many people I work with don't even know the difference between a "hard drive" and the actual "computer", I can guarantee you that 95% of the morons in our world don't have the mental capacity to get even just a Private Pilot license let alone all the way thru ATPL. Try sitting in a cubicle 5 days a week and kissing ass first, solving problems second.
DJA984 1 year ago
Embellish much?
iflyem3535 1 year ago
This was painful to watch. Painful because there are elements of truth and humour but also because it's an unfair exageration of how things are, even after the dark decade we just suffered.
Can anyone be a pilot as asserted here? Ask any flight instructor and they will tell you "no". Even at the PPL level only about a third of the people who walk into the flying club have what it takes. What is the drop-out rate at an aviation college or miltary selection program? You sell yourself short.
whitenoiseRT 1 year ago 2
Consider the training you endure even after you're licensed- initial, transition, recurrent. Every 6 months you're forced to demonstrate that you have what it takes. And it takes dedication from a focused professional as evidenced by the continued hull losses throughout the industry. Even the "automatic" airplanes require a high degree of knowledge and training. Speaking as a ten-year Airbus captain/30 year airline pilot- I know that few people off the street have what it takes to do this job.
whitenoiseRT 1 year ago 2
Sounds like pilots are stuck up their own arses to me. This only highlights how for some reason pilots think too highly of themselves and how wrong it is they're subjected to certain requirements, when really they are just glorified bus drivers.
Stop complaining and start your own airline!!!
Personally I think they are inherently insecure and rely heavily on the pantomime uniform and ability to throw people off the aircraft. Yak.
Not in the same league as a doctor, lawyer etc.
Mavermick7 1 year ago
@Mavermick7 Way to generalise. Ever hear of sarcasm?
metroid255 8 months ago
So true. Luckily I realized that many years ago. Love flying but not that much.That's why I never was interested in being one. Like watching the idiots on Ice Pilots. Get serious. Aviation finally paid off for me flying 172's on Pipeline patrols. Make more than any regional Captain and some airline ones. Also have more hours than most of them...ha.
gjaunich 1 year ago
XJ here as well....lol
muskiemetallures 1 year ago
7 years at XJ wrapped up in 11 minutes!
chazflyz 1 year ago
This is too funny & quite true lol...
twobeavers 1 year ago
I decided Im gonna apply to the CHP after watching this. After 5 years as a regional FO with no upgrade in sight and 10 years working as a pilot I still have not broken 50,000 a year. I am not a professional, time to grow up and get a real job. Everybody who says this video is inaccurate.....well they don't work for a regional airline. And by the way you aren't gonna go to a regional just for a few years and upgrade and go straight to a major.
laxredeye 1 year ago
FML!!! I'm going to go drink bush light in my hotel...
Starcon88 1 year ago
OMG! This video is hysterical. After seeing this, I swear that they made this video based on poor Spirit pilots which is a reflection on the company's poor treatment of it's employees! The creator of this video was very careful not to name Spirit or any other airline but the description of our Spirit pilots is dead on! LMAO!!!
OpsMaster 1 year ago
Would have been 1000x better without the homophobia.
GreenFiles 1 year ago
Any career can look bad if you concentrate all the negative aspects into a 10 minute video. But facts are facts. :-(
daninja98 1 year ago
@wineandflyguy Actually, they need to play this video for every person getting ready to hit the SUBMIT button on the Sallie Mae website for that $50k flight training loan.
CaptAviator 1 year ago 8
So fucking sad... OMG!
evolangel515 1 year ago
This video is SPOT ON. Wow. I hate my life.
WaketoWakes 1 year ago 30
@WaketoWakes let me get this, you are a pilot, and you are down? c ´mon, you guys are the coolest. you can do things normal people are not ready to do. you can fly a goddamn plane! this is no easy task!
yupiie 1 year ago
@WaketoWakes nobody forces you to become a pilot. you become one by choice.
grow up and stop whining or look for an 9-5 job sitting in the cubicle if it is this bad.
from A320 driver.
kimuragenru 1 year ago
Some of it hits the mark - bed-bugs, crashpads, living out of a wheelie bag, medical issues.
I'm actually in our version of a crashpad on Bath Road next to Heathrow as I type.
Not sure I want to burst 'teamoeli007's bubble but - even we in Big Airways do fly to some pretty awful places. As for being positive about the job - pension trashed - paycut 2 years ago with little prospect of getting it back - working longer hours and more days - hardly see the family - yeah, i'm really positive :/
mudmover 1 year ago
Dude, that doesn't sound like much fun, especially the bed bugs! Thank goodness I went into.....................sculpting ;)
12fu12fu 1 year ago
It depends entirely in which airline or where are you flying. I don't think a Lufthansa or British Airways pilot visit boring places... and about the autopilot, it's different to operate and to fly... you can fly an A320 the same way as a 727, but it dependes in how you let technology affect your flying... anyway all said in this video dependes on where are you flying and how you fly and how positive or positive you are about your job...
teamoeli007 1 year ago
@teamoeli007 This video relates to airines in the United States. European airlines still treat their pilots well and compensate them accordingly.
CaptAviator 1 year ago
@teamoeli007 All comedy is exaggerations. But what makes it funny is that there is always a hidden truth. Even at Lufthansa.
daninja98 1 year ago
True or not...bitter or not it's actually funny as hell.....great for a laugh
jetairbear 1 year ago
A good number of these assertions are true, but a large part of it was exaggerated.
mikeydapilot 1 year ago
@mikeydapilot you obviously dont fly for an airline. ive been at one for the past 4 years and this video is SPOT ON
supahpilot777 1 year ago
this is total bs if you dont like it.....get out, make room for those who have the true passion of flying.
jeremyb14120 1 year ago
@jeremyb14120 So much of a passion that they will fly for free? Take pay cuts? Take the real pilots that have a back to stand up to management for more pays' jobs? If this is BS, why are so many people saying it's spot on?
dyockey 1 year ago
@jeremyb14120 we had the passion too jeremy, until it was splatted like a bird impacting your windscreen at 300 kts....
ds2112 1 year ago
That voice get so annoying!!!
flyzapva 1 year ago
Sad thing is this is not too far from the truth. Things will never change until ALPA and the rest of the unions go to a national senority list and that will never happen. After 12 years of this b.s. Im about to say "peace out."
bp3putter 1 year ago
Dude, u make me feel bad.........and i am not a loser (sob)
kigonye 1 year ago
not all male fa's are "flaming homosexuals"
dfwjcj 1 year ago
Looks like Glen Beck and Will Ferrell
Gotyler5 1 year ago 19
Such fucking bs! Try being a trucker and being gone for MONTHS at a time on the road. These guys have it good. (of coarse not ideal)
my235 1 year ago
Hah, out and backs on a freighter in the tropics and being home every night mean I never have to deal with this crap.
archer49d 1 year ago
i'm pretty sure it's by a pilot flying for a U.S. regional carrier.
thank the lord i'm off with german Lufthansa...
semaex 1 year ago
ROC is not cool, it's unbelievably COLD!
supahpilot777 1 year ago
This just about sums it all up!! But hey would we still do something else???
avee8tor 1 year ago
this is fucking hilarious and so true
supahpilot777 1 year ago
Tsamsootru,absolutely not. I said ATP's were professional by definition. So is a CFI or anyone who qualifies to fly for pay. The video insinuates otherwise.
gruibingen 1 year ago
@gruibingen no, sorry, being a pilot is a vocation. the only professions are law, medicine, and accounting. this is a technical distinction and plenty of vocations pay much more than these
raffield1 1 year ago
Tramsootru.
gruibingen 1 year ago
ya like the other jobs are all perfect........
skat0r 1 year ago
hahah so funny and so untrue!! :D
Locker10a 1 year ago
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flankeri 1 year ago
LOL. I was sitting in Delta ATL crew room and saw this. Another pilot came up and said "hey my son does coke and my first wife blames me". Our Newark hotel is being sprayed for bed bugs. We looked at our shoes and they all looked beat up. A little too realistic. I may be that guy. Sigh.
jharris1833 1 year ago 2
Stay away from the regionals....FAR FAR away kids.
BTW...This video was probably made by some regional airline middle manager
falcondrvr200 1 year ago
You left "Regional" out of the title. This was my life 16 years ago when I started as a "Commuter" pilot (there were no "regionals" back then). Life as a professional (yes, technically the word "professional" applies to ATP's) pilot is much better once you progress past that level. Unfortunately, the regionals have taken over so much of the domestic flying that escaping them has become more difficult.
gruibingen 1 year ago
@gruibingen I'm just curious, are you insinuating that there are no professionals at the regional level?
Tramsootru 1 year ago
That hit too close to home....
KarmaFlight 1 year ago
Hey!! My idea of cool IS Rochester!!!
Why does Will Ferrell want to be an Airline Pilot?
durksteel 1 year ago
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durksteel 1 year ago
Here's your sign.
HalinTexas 1 year ago
The sad truth!
chrisaschultz 1 year ago
Spot on...
10,000 hours, 6 airlines (4 of the 6 are out of business) in 14 years and all I can say is run away fast kiddies, run far away from this career.
mjs214 1 year ago