David Zirin is a typical left wing goon who thinks all white non Jews are complete retards and they always need to be spoken to like 4 year olds because their narrative is different to his point of view
David Zirin is a typical left wing goon who thinks all white non Jews are complete retards and they always need to be spoken to like 4 year olds because their narrative is different to his point of view?
The loss is there for sure , but what Howard Zinn left us , makes up for it in a way that lets us feel less about the loss when weighed against the amazing legacy he left with us !
I too , have my cherished , dog eared copy of "Peoples History of the United States" - only mine is completely original since I lettered over the top of the title to read "bloody History" because to me , that is what he exposed to my mind as the legacy of this country !
Forget all about this left/right wing poli-trash-talk nonsense,
this man changed many of my misguided perceptions, and for that , for me, he will always be remembered. May you rest well and may the passion for history that you burned in all who were and are lucky enough to come across your work never fade out.
Sorry to say i never really knew about Howard Zinn, but he is from what i've seen and heard a historian and social activist who brought to life history from the common man's perspective, things that are glossed over in regular history classes, and he engendered alot of love and respect from people. Rest in peace, Howard.
Rest in peace my brother. You ran hard and you ran long and you carried the torch far and long enough. We have it. It is safe. We will carry it and we will bear the new light through the eyes of the ones left behind, like you. May history remember you always.
"A People's History" is one of the finest and most eye opening books I have ever read. His talent as a historian and his personal courage as an activist is something to be admired for anyone that has any interest in social issues. He lived a very good life, RIP.
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Howard Zinn, proud revisionist, propagandist, and counter-culture leftist scum. Carrying on the Leftist tradition of distorting the truth. Burn in hell you piece of shit.
Just makes me sick when I recommend that people read Zinn and they say, "Isn't he that leftist author?" and then refuse to read him. Anything that tells OUR history from first person perspectives IS the truth, not easily dismissible by labeling "leftist"! Our kids are so stupid today because they learn NOTHING about the contributions of everyday people to our country. Just carry it on, folks, and read Zinn's books! Reclaim this country! Thank you, Howard Zinn.
Do you not understand the difference between a primary and secondary source? Primary sources are considered unreliable by any RESPECTED historian. Howard Zinn's "history" book isn't anywhere near objectivity, and anyone that agrees with it is a revisionist piece of shit.
Voices of a Peoples History of the United States addresses your unfounded criticism. It's takes many, many (though certainly not all) of the original sources Zinn drew off of in his People's History and compiles them in book form. Check it out bub. This country is indebted to not only leftists, but radical leftists and don't you forget it. Left up to reactionary facists such as yourself and the world would be in even more disarray than it is today... hard to believe but true ;]
'Objectivity' is and always has been an excuse that promotes the status quo. Zinn unearthed the real history of people who protested and made the world a better place - for instance the 8 hour day, child labor laws, civil rights. WIthout the strikes and protests of working people, blacks, students, women these valuable reforms would not have become law.
Learning that history will help us plan for the future struggles to end war, pass EFCA, get civil rights for LGBT folks, etc..
@cobra "bully their members"? This is an example of throwing out the baby with the bath water. I'd like to see the unions 'bully' the bosses and wealthy corporations more instead of laying down for bad contracts and giveaways to the rich. 1% of the population owns more wealth than the bottom 95% now.
Read some history and learn. Unions are workers first line of defense against the exploitation of the employing class.
Howard your legacy is more alive than ever! Thank you for every thing ZINN!
Bernanke was appointed for a second term. Man we´re screwed! Why do good people die and the bad guys stay alive?
Thank you RT for talking about Howard! Shame on the mainstream media for not talking about his death!
When Michael Jackson died, the media talked constantly about his death. The young Turks only dedicated a three minute story! Again, thank you RT and fuck the American mainstream media!
"But we did not know exactly where. So we invaded and bombed the whole country. That made many people feel righteous: We had to do something, you heard people say. Yes, we had to do something. But not thoughtlessly, not recklessly."""
"We are all (except for terrorists) against terror. So a war on terror sounds right. But there was a problem, which most Americans did not consider in the heat of the moment: We had no idea how to make war against terror; nor did Bush, despite his bravado. Yes, Al Qaeda—a relatively small but ruthless group of fanatics—was apparently responsible. And there was evidence that its leaders, Osama Bin Laden and others, were based in Afghanistan.
"Let me offer some sobering thoughts to those who say, as many do: Attacking Iraq was wrong, but attacking Afghanistan was right. Go back to 9/11. Hijackers direct jet planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing close to 3,000 people. A terrorist act, inexcusable by any moral code. The nation is aroused. President Bush orders the invasion and bombing of Afghanistan, and the American public is swept into approval by a wave of fear and anger. Bush announces a war on terror.
"In Afghanistan, we declared victory over the Taliban but the Taliban is back, with the attacks increasing, and our casualties in Afghanistan currently exceeding those in Iraq. What makes Obama think that sending more troops to Afghanistan will produce victory? And if it did, in an immediate military sense, how long would that last, and at what cost to human life on both sides?
The resurgence of fighting in Afghanistan is a good moment to reflect on the beginning of our involvement there.
"Did we win in the first Gulf War? Not really. Yes, we pushed Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait with only a few hundred U.S. casualties, but we killed tens of thousands of Iraqis in the process. And the consequences were deadly for us: Saddam still in power, leading us to enforce economic sanctions that led to the deaths (according to U.N. officials) of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and setting the stage for another war.
"The result was a stalemate, leaving things as they were before: a dictatorship in South Korea, a dictatorship in North Korea—but more than two million people, mostly civilians, were dead, and we dropped napalm on children, and 50,000 American soldiers lost their lives. Did we win in Vietnam? The answer is obvious. We were forced to withdraw, but only after two million Vietnamese died, mostly civilians, again leaving children burned or armless or legless, and 58,000 American soldiers dead.
"Have our political leaders gone mad? Have they learned nothing from recent history? Have they not learned that no one wins in a war, but that hundreds of thousands of human beings die, most of them civilians, many of them children?
Did we win by going to war in Korea? The result was a stalemate, leaving things as they were before: a dictatorship in South Korea, a dictatorship in North Korea—
"It seems that Barack Obama and John McCain are arguing over which war to fight. McCain says: Keep the troops in Iraq until we win. Obama says: Withdraw some (not all) troops from Iraq and send them to fight and win in Afghanistan.
As someone who has fought in a war (World War II) and since then has protested against war, I must ask:
Your People's History of the United States gave all the people who turn the wheel of commerce a due place in U.S. History. Prior to the 1980's everybody was sick & tired of the revisionist history of Leaders.
Howard's people oriented history documents the Cultural, Economic & Political turmoil of the late 60's & 70's.
For those, who never read it, - it best represents the Cause we fought for - in our struggle against TrickleDownEconomics of Corporatism"!
The state demands that felons hear its charges against them. When the felon is the state, we demand that the state hear charges against it. Refusal sides with felony. This is how justice works. Oddly enough, some call this Marxism. They must think that Marxists alone stand for principle and justice.
I want to redouble my own efforts for peace and justice this year. I think that honors the late Howard Zinn.
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Fuck Howard Zinn. He was only able to write what he did under the protection of our own freedoms, which he so consistently criticized. His most well-known "history" book is sickening, Marxist drivel.
He wrongfully stated that the United States is guilty of all these atrocities because it is the United States, completely disregarding every other superpower in human history that has been guilty of the very same thing. It's not a problem with the US; it's a problem with being at the top.
In what way at all did Zinn consistently criticize "our freedoms"? Part of the point of Zinn's writings is that the American people are often less free than they are led to believe and then sometimes outright oppressed by their government.
Also, in no way does Zinn disregard every other superpower in history. The United States is the focus of his writings because it has been the dominant western superpower, one that pays lip service to "freedoms" while being imperialistically oppressive.
@ExposeZionistCrimes "Progressive? Is that a new code word for marxist bolshevik?"
Yes, in some cases it is. I am proudly leftist, a fact which I will put in your worthless, scumfuck conservative twat face every second of the day until I pass from this Earth.
Now: Let me teach you something NOT propagandized on Fox News daily:
Conservative: A new code word for a proto-fascist.
"When fascism comes to America it will be waving the flag & carrying a Christian cross."
He was a great US American but his book sales had more to do with professors across the country making his book a require reading for their classes. I didn't agree with everything he wrote but still god bless his soul,
David Zirin is a typical left wing goon who thinks all white non Jews are complete retards and they always need to be spoken to like 4 year olds because their narrative is different to his point of view
1975howardgoldman 5 months ago
David Zirin is a typical left wing goon who thinks all white non Jews are complete retards and they always need to be spoken to like 4 year olds because their narrative is different to his point of view?
1975howardgoldman 5 months ago
The loss is there for sure , but what Howard Zinn left us , makes up for it in a way that lets us feel less about the loss when weighed against the amazing legacy he left with us !
I too , have my cherished , dog eared copy of "Peoples History of the United States" - only mine is completely original since I lettered over the top of the title to read "bloody History" because to me , that is what he exposed to my mind as the legacy of this country !
Howard Zinn - RIP !
rolynstone48 5 months ago
Forget all about this left/right wing poli-trash-talk nonsense,
this man changed many of my misguided perceptions, and for that , for me, he will always be remembered. May you rest well and may the passion for history that you burned in all who were and are lucky enough to come across your work never fade out.
DelbyC 8 months ago
Sorry to say i never really knew about Howard Zinn, but he is from what i've seen and heard a historian and social activist who brought to life history from the common man's perspective, things that are glossed over in regular history classes, and he engendered alot of love and respect from people. Rest in peace, Howard.
Remus0387 1 year ago
In other words his book could be titled "History As I See It".
supressorgrid 1 year ago
@supressorgrid
Would you prefer "History As 'The Founders' See It?"
thirdshift47 11 months ago
Faget Alert!
patsagainstrats 1 year ago
@patsagainstrats You can't even spell it....
fatmaggi 1 year ago
Rest in peace my brother. You ran hard and you ran long and you carried the torch far and long enough. We have it. It is safe. We will carry it and we will bear the new light through the eyes of the ones left behind, like you. May history remember you always.
just4funzees 1 year ago
"A People's History" is one of the finest and most eye opening books I have ever read. His talent as a historian and his personal courage as an activist is something to be admired for anyone that has any interest in social issues. He lived a very good life, RIP.
BloggerMusicMan 1 year ago
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Howard Zinn, proud revisionist, propagandist, and counter-culture leftist scum. Carrying on the Leftist tradition of distorting the truth. Burn in hell you piece of shit.
Cobra666Commander 2 years ago
Just makes me sick when I recommend that people read Zinn and they say, "Isn't he that leftist author?" and then refuse to read him. Anything that tells OUR history from first person perspectives IS the truth, not easily dismissible by labeling "leftist"! Our kids are so stupid today because they learn NOTHING about the contributions of everyday people to our country. Just carry it on, folks, and read Zinn's books! Reclaim this country! Thank you, Howard Zinn.
sabymoon 2 years ago 9
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@sabymoon
Do you not understand the difference between a primary and secondary source? Primary sources are considered unreliable by any RESPECTED historian. Howard Zinn's "history" book isn't anywhere near objectivity, and anyone that agrees with it is a revisionist piece of shit.
And "reclaim" the country for what? Leftism?
Cobra666Commander 2 years ago
Voices of a Peoples History of the United States addresses your unfounded criticism. It's takes many, many (though certainly not all) of the original sources Zinn drew off of in his People's History and compiles them in book form. Check it out bub. This country is indebted to not only leftists, but radical leftists and don't you forget it. Left up to reactionary facists such as yourself and the world would be in even more disarray than it is today... hard to believe but true ;]
eye0thetiger 2 years ago 3
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@eye0thetiger
So if I don't support radical leftism I'm automatically a reactionary facist? I guess I'll wear that title with pride you Marxist scum.
Your goals of equality will fail as they always have. There will always be weak and strong, and the strong will rule the weak.
Cobra666Commander 2 years ago
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@cobra "....I'm automatically a reactionary facist?"
Yes you are - those are your words too - you said it, not us and if the shoe fits - wear it!
(wish you would learn to spell correctly or at least use a spell checker) The word is fascist.
PHubb 2 years ago
'Objectivity' is and always has been an excuse that promotes the status quo. Zinn unearthed the real history of people who protested and made the world a better place - for instance the 8 hour day, child labor laws, civil rights. WIthout the strikes and protests of working people, blacks, students, women these valuable reforms would not have become law.
Learning that history will help us plan for the future struggles to end war, pass EFCA, get civil rights for LGBT folks, etc..
PHubb 2 years ago 2
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@PHubb
Ahh so you'd like unions to be able to bully their members even more so?
Fucking leftists, you evil bastards make me sick to my stomach.
Cobra666Commander 2 years ago
@Cobra666Commander Go fuck yourself you right wing cock sucker....wait..you do regularly while watching Beck...fuckwit.
fatmaggi 1 year ago
His spirit will live through the people
socaldave88 2 years ago 3
@cobra "bully their members"? This is an example of throwing out the baby with the bath water. I'd like to see the unions 'bully' the bosses and wealthy corporations more instead of laying down for bad contracts and giveaways to the rich. 1% of the population owns more wealth than the bottom 95% now.
Read some history and learn. Unions are workers first line of defense against the exploitation of the employing class.
PHubb 2 years ago
God Bless Howard Zinn........R.I.P
melodymaker65 2 years ago 6
I'll miss Howard Zinn.
grungefuck 2 years ago 3
Howard your legacy is more alive than ever! Thank you for every thing ZINN!
Bernanke was appointed for a second term. Man we´re screwed! Why do good people die and the bad guys stay alive?
Thank you RT for talking about Howard! Shame on the mainstream media for not talking about his death!
When Michael Jackson died, the media talked constantly about his death. The young Turks only dedicated a three minute story! Again, thank you RT and fuck the American mainstream media!
cerritoboy 2 years ago 4
"But we did not know exactly where. So we invaded and bombed the whole country. That made many people feel righteous: We had to do something, you heard people say. Yes, we had to do something. But not thoughtlessly, not recklessly."""
Lisa from Munich
Sundrumify 2 years ago
"We are all (except for terrorists) against terror. So a war on terror sounds right. But there was a problem, which most Americans did not consider in the heat of the moment: We had no idea how to make war against terror; nor did Bush, despite his bravado. Yes, Al Qaeda—a relatively small but ruthless group of fanatics—was apparently responsible. And there was evidence that its leaders, Osama Bin Laden and others, were based in Afghanistan.
... to be continuned
Sundrumify 2 years ago
"Let me offer some sobering thoughts to those who say, as many do: Attacking Iraq was wrong, but attacking Afghanistan was right. Go back to 9/11. Hijackers direct jet planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, killing close to 3,000 people. A terrorist act, inexcusable by any moral code. The nation is aroused. President Bush orders the invasion and bombing of Afghanistan, and the American public is swept into approval by a wave of fear and anger. Bush announces a war on terror.
Sundrumify 2 years ago
"In Afghanistan, we declared victory over the Taliban but the Taliban is back, with the attacks increasing, and our casualties in Afghanistan currently exceeding those in Iraq. What makes Obama think that sending more troops to Afghanistan will produce victory? And if it did, in an immediate military sense, how long would that last, and at what cost to human life on both sides?
The resurgence of fighting in Afghanistan is a good moment to reflect on the beginning of our involvement there.
Sundrumify 2 years ago
"Did we win in the first Gulf War? Not really. Yes, we pushed Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait with only a few hundred U.S. casualties, but we killed tens of thousands of Iraqis in the process. And the consequences were deadly for us: Saddam still in power, leading us to enforce economic sanctions that led to the deaths (according to U.N. officials) of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and setting the stage for another war.
.... to be continued
Sundrumify 2 years ago
"The result was a stalemate, leaving things as they were before: a dictatorship in South Korea, a dictatorship in North Korea—but more than two million people, mostly civilians, were dead, and we dropped napalm on children, and 50,000 American soldiers lost their lives. Did we win in Vietnam? The answer is obvious. We were forced to withdraw, but only after two million Vietnamese died, mostly civilians, again leaving children burned or armless or legless, and 58,000 American soldiers dead.
Sundrumify 2 years ago
"Have our political leaders gone mad? Have they learned nothing from recent history? Have they not learned that no one wins in a war, but that hundreds of thousands of human beings die, most of them civilians, many of them children?
Did we win by going to war in Korea? The result was a stalemate, leaving things as they were before: a dictatorship in South Korea, a dictatorship in North Korea—
.... to be continued
Sundrumify 2 years ago
The Obama Difference
By Howard Zinn, The Progressive, October 2008
"It seems that Barack Obama and John McCain are arguing over which war to fight. McCain says: Keep the troops in Iraq until we win. Obama says: Withdraw some (not all) troops from Iraq and send them to fight and win in Afghanistan.
As someone who has fought in a war (World War II) and since then has protested against war, I must ask:
..... to be continued
Sundrumify 2 years ago
Howard Zinn is one cool dude.. he's not dead... he is alive. Don't believe me?
Just youtube him....
MrLukasart 2 years ago
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burn in hell zinn, jew-commie traitor.
bi0dude42O 2 years ago
RIP honorable Howard Zinn.
Your People's History of the United States gave all the people who turn the wheel of commerce a due place in U.S. History. Prior to the 1980's everybody was sick & tired of the revisionist history of Leaders.
Howard's people oriented history documents the Cultural, Economic & Political turmoil of the late 60's & 70's.
For those, who never read it, - it best represents the Cause we fought for - in our struggle against TrickleDownEconomics of Corporatism"!
rwcbanzai 2 years ago
Don't you mean, "fighting for"? We have lost a lot of ground over the last 20 years... Maybe you need to update your copy of the Peoples History.
Appleriver3 2 years ago
Can[t update a '92' worn out PaperBack original, that Zinn handed to me personally!
The enemy then was Nixon and that damn 10 year V/Nam War & the Draft!
No historian had so eloquently documented the cultural tragedy of that Decade of War!
rwcbanzai 2 years ago
Today is a sad day for human kind
a great man was taken from us.
RIP Howard Zinn
TheBigT89 2 years ago 2
The state demands that felons hear its charges against them. When the felon is the state, we demand that the state hear charges against it. Refusal sides with felony. This is how justice works. Oddly enough, some call this Marxism. They must think that Marxists alone stand for principle and justice.
I want to redouble my own efforts for peace and justice this year. I think that honors the late Howard Zinn.
KeeperOfTheWord 2 years ago
Oh my God...
Rest in Peace Mr Howard Zinn, can't beleive he passed away.
He was a Hero of the people!
flouka9 2 years ago 5
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Fuck Howard Zinn. He was only able to write what he did under the protection of our own freedoms, which he so consistently criticized. His most well-known "history" book is sickening, Marxist drivel.
He wrongfully stated that the United States is guilty of all these atrocities because it is the United States, completely disregarding every other superpower in human history that has been guilty of the very same thing. It's not a problem with the US; it's a problem with being at the top.
Norskebanan 2 years ago
In what way at all did Zinn consistently criticize "our freedoms"? Part of the point of Zinn's writings is that the American people are often less free than they are led to believe and then sometimes outright oppressed by their government.
Also, in no way does Zinn disregard every other superpower in history. The United States is the focus of his writings because it has been the dominant western superpower, one that pays lip service to "freedoms" while being imperialistically oppressive.
Keithed200 2 years ago 4
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Howard zinn did nothing but tear down the U.S and only saw everything from a Narrow Marxist perspective.
oldbirdhat 2 years ago
1) Zinn was a historian, so everything documented in his works is historically accurate
2) Zinn was not a Marxist
noneed4dynamite 2 years ago
R.I.P. Howard Zinn. I bought and read your book. You will be missed by the progressive movement.
dmp079 2 years ago 3
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@dmp079
Progressive? Is that a new code word for marxist bolshevik?
ExposeZionistCrimes 2 years ago
@ExposeZionistCrimes ExposeZionistCrimes? Is that a new code word for fucktarded white nationalist basement-dweller?
CommiesUnite 2 years ago
Only in your mind.
dmp079 2 years ago
@ExposeZionistCrimes "Progressive? Is that a new code word for marxist bolshevik?"
Yes, in some cases it is. I am proudly leftist, a fact which I will put in your worthless, scumfuck conservative twat face every second of the day until I pass from this Earth.
Now: Let me teach you something NOT propagandized on Fox News daily:
Conservative: A new code word for a proto-fascist.
"When fascism comes to America it will be waving the flag & carrying a Christian cross."
Truer words never spoken.
bapyou 9 months ago
He was a great US American but his book sales had more to do with professors across the country making his book a require reading for their classes. I didn't agree with everything he wrote but still god bless his soul,
mrshutter77 2 years ago
Great american!
historywillabsolve 2 years ago 3
Very good for Russia Today to remember Howard Zinn.
wvprogressive1933 2 years ago 3