IS this Chris that is on with Markus alot on truth in 7 minutes?? Wsup buddy. Ive seen this before but i was about to post it somewhere and recognized your voice now. This is Brian. The one from Massachusetts. I came on twice in the last cpl of months. This is my channel.
@chriskendall1 lol I actually found it a while ago. Ive used this in my 30 page paper I wrote on 911. Obviously i had a ton of Sh%^ in there but your video was one I played for ppl. I had seen it a million times and still didnt realize it was you when we were on the radio. I went to dig it up to repost some stuff and when i was listening I was like hold on! I know this guy!
To everyone,the ssa DOES NOT HAVE A DEATH INDEX ONLINE!!!!! And it called the MASTER DEATH FILE. TYPE IN SSA DEATH INDEX AND SEE WHAT COMES UP, I PROMISE YOU THAT YOU WONT FIND IT. THIS GUY IS A LIAR AND A FRAUD IF YOU FIND IT EMAIL ME AT GIAGUNZ@gmail.com ill send you 50 dollars if im wrong. this guy iz a looser
@Spindry96 Hey Dipshit, dont crticise people for attempting to find the truth. You stick to what you were told by your superiors and hold it as "your truth" and in the meantime people with a hobby for finding "it" will do it for you. Just shut the fuck up in the process cause you'll be the first truther groupie to say something like " I had a funny feeling it was an inside job" when the truth comes out. Let the people work...shhhh
@davidortiz7 Sigh.. another rude angry truther how predictable. Can you really blame me for criticizing a retarded video? This is not a search for truth it's a fantasy trip. Oh by the way l can comment on how l feel about any video on You Tube so take your hostile attempt of censorship elsewhere. In the mean time i'll hold my breath waiting for truthers to prove any of their many conflicting theories, actually no l won't it's already been ten years with zero proof or real evidence
@Spindry96 I just don't believe the story i was told. IMO it doesnt look like a 747/757 hit that street and then into the pentagon. If they told everyone it did then i would like to see some evidence. You are right, i do not have the truth nor any evidence. Whoever said a plane hit the pentagon and made it "truth" should some everyone their evidence?
@davidortiz7 I have no problem people questioning, if no one questioned anything we would still think Oswald was a lone gunman. I do get anoyed at theories when they are built on false evidence, poor science or are just stupid like hologram planes. In regard to the Pentagon the photos of the plane wreckage of the American airlines passenger jet satisfies me that it was a plane
Could it be that they were declared dead at different dates, as their bodies or remains were identify by the coroner. It was a lot of bodies and parts to Identify and record, it must had taken months.
You could probably see better results by putting in the individual names of the people. I'm sure there's a website with a list of all the supposed victims on the web somewhere. It would be time consuming, but I'd think after no record of the first 50 names, it would be a tell-tell sign of something nefarious. There's been so many lies told about 9/11, it wouldn't surprise me if most the names were fake and used to write multi-million $ benefit checks to "themselves," NOT the victim's families.
I think there was only one real plane, and it was shot down near the faked pennsylvania site. If the whole thing was planned, then why did they need a fourth plane after all the great evidence for terrorists, etc. already created? - because they needed at least a few real victims! The pentagon 'crash' creates the reason to shoot down the next plane, and the next plane creates bodies and 'plane wreckage evidence'. They need a fake crash so that no one realizes the bodies are on the wrong plane.
The 'bolt theory' maintains the bolts which held these steel structures together, were either 'explosive' bolts, or 'exotic' bolts, packed with thermite, and triggered by sending high electrical current through these buildings steel structure. There is evidence to suggest such, inc reports of generators exploding, loss of power in surrounding area, although trade towers maintained power, fact, wtc 7 had an electricity substation, and unprecedented power down of twin towers shortly before 9/11.
I want to see the link that tells us why we went through all the trouble staging 9/11 so we could go to war with the middle east, but then couldn't find nukes or even plant some for the media in Iraq. "They" couldn't green screen that? We can fake planes going into & knocking down skyscrapers, hide thousands of deaths, silence tens of thousands involved in the events of that day, get Arabs (same who attacked us numerous times before) to admit to it,make fake vids & load them on citizens cameras-
Hey Oneg, you do realize that you are learning this conspiracy stuff right where it was invented, on You Tube. There is absolutely zero physical evidence to support any of those claims other than theories & deceptive you tube videos. Most all have been debunked. Look at both sides of the coin always. Check both sides thouroughly please. For all our sakes. You are a hero for your service even if you dont know it!
I stayed away from 9/11 vids since my tour in Iraq,my brother is now on his 3rd tour in Afghanistan protecting Opium Farmers_I've been studying so much suppressed information about,MercuryVapor & Fluoride,U.S.Patent#5676799 The AIDS Cure_Nikola Tesla & Free Energy_Rick Simpson Arrested 4Curing Cancer w/Hemp Oil_The Pyramids arent Tombs 4 Pharaohs they're Electrical Devices,I can go on & on_We are slaves,D.C. Is the headquarters for the 50 Companies in this Corporation we call the U.S.
No plane theory = No brain theory. 250,000lbs. +, would have no problem slicing through the thin exterior of any steal structure. The wings are the fuel tanks. Quite alot of mass there. Your theory makes no sense and is lackin logic.
So tell us Cartoonbrains, what exactly happens to a QUARTER OF A MILLION POUNDS when it runs into the side of a building at a high rate of speed?? What should have happend?
@dnahulvey It's wonderfully ironic that YOU should be the one calling anyone "Cartoonbrains"- since it appears you are a staunch believer in the cartoon-like, digitally animated imagery shown on 9/11. You ask: "What should have happened?" Well, one thing is for sure: Certainly NOT what we see in the various videos - a total penetration of the entire airliner, wings, tail-section and all. I'd say anyone prone to believe such a thing is possible, has watched far too many cartoons.
@simonshack Of all these fools that can't get to grips with what's blatantly staring them in the face @dnahulvey seems to fall into the 2 piece jigsaw brigade,while others seem to either push the "official" conspiracy theory as a career or just happen to be using the flag as a blindfold.
I'm sure if @dnahulvey wanted me to respond to his attempt at an insult he would have the intelligence to actually use the reply button...or would he?.
I guess the planes were suppose to bounce off the buildings like they might do in cartoons huh? Have you ever looked to see how much one of those "aluminum tubes" wieghs when packed with fuel? And you call me the shill idiot! Come on man.
@dnahulvey You've actually got that the wrong way around: In cartoons, such as the Looney Tunes series, Wile E Coyote penetrates rocks and leaves a cut-out imprint of himself in the rock- and nothing bounces off the rock. In real life, a 200mph Indycar will crash head-on into a concrete wall, and yes, most of the racing car will bounce off of it. Check it out for yourself: watch?v=QyU8jHmkXTE
What we see in the 9/11 imagery is beyond silly - and defies every known law of physics.
@simonshack Sorry but this comparison is no good. Indy cars are around 1500lbs. A 757 is upwards of 255,000lbs.! HUGE difference. 255,000lbs., IS NO BEER CAN. A 1000+ TON wrecking ball moving at over 400mph. Simple logic & common sense should kick in at this point. There are thousands of videos & eye witness accounts all showing & telling of the same thing. Tens of thousands involved in rescue & recovery. All paid off? Or Killed? No whistle blowers with evidence? Come on man...
@dnahulvey Nobody has ever suggested that the planes would simply "bounce off" the towers..but if you really think they would slice through the steel towers intact and have the fragile nose cone exit the other side (something the media tried & failed to hide with their logo banners & fade to black screens) then there is a vacant space between your ears.
Isaac Newtons 3rd Law Of Motion "For every action there is an equal & opposite reaction"...meaning for every force there is a reaction force equal in size but in the opposite direction. Fake 9/11 impact footage shows hollow aluminum planes slice through steel structured towers with zero damage to these flying beer cans,while the steel towers crumble to dust...
Sorry shills you can NOT re-write the laws of physics just to support the "official" conspiracy theory..
@dnahulvey No, I haven't forced a drinking straw through a potato and planes can't go through steel girders. Ever seen what bird does to a plane? You keep watching TV and trusting your Government, everything's OK. I won't be answering so don't waste your time responding. It's like talking to a brick.
@dnahulvey What's that..you want links proving 9/11 was a hoax,a con,a complete pile of cgi crap...try watching every single video of "planes" hitting the towers...
....and please if you want to appear to have even the slightest sign of intelligence don't compare a hollow aluminum plane slicing through a steel structured tower with a fucking straw and a potato.
Whatever you believe about what happened on 9/11 is irrelevant, this is a very good point and there might be a very simple explanation... What about the Life Insurance policies of the victims, have they been payed to the families? There is a procedure people have to go through when someone dies, regardless of the circumstances surrounding it.
This is a load of crap. No one HAS to register a death with Social Security. The only reason that a death has to be registered with the SSA is if the deceased had been receiving SS benefits - or if their children or spouse will be eligible to receive "survivor benefits". There is otherwise no legal reason to inform SS about a death.
You've heard of people who live off their dead parents' SS benefits? They were legally required to report but did not.
I checked out the people in the towers and in the planes for a famous web site lets roll and there wore fake names people where dead before 911 or after 911 same why with the Oklahoma bombing also staged
One of the very reasons people can not wake up to the truth is because of the constant propaganda surrounding the "alledged" victims by the mass media.
All people need to do to realise 9/11 was an inside job is...
@cartoonplanes did go back and look at the "nose out" and it was just a statement by the commentator. To build the impossibilty of something happening because this guy said nose out...What if he would have said...OMG look at that..look at the force that is pushing all that "debris" out the other side." Would that have made a dif. I mean there was debris being ejected from the other side. Footage of the jumpers? to establish what?
@cartoonplanes just went to sept. clues and saw the 1 st two min. The film show the (supposed)mistakenly fabricated "nose out" footage. Why is it then from all the differant angles of this impact that we see the same ejection of debris thru the other side of the buildind. Again..they take the parts they coose to interpret and work the spin. I will watch the rest of the vid. but 2 min. in it appears to be crap...just saying.
@LolsOfRoflica If they can plant passports from the "hijackers" on the steets of NYC they can plant people to say oh my god he jumped and other gasps and screams that are staged.
in this case is hard to make a list of deaths in same day .propably they declare all lost lifes after some time . for sure they could not manage to even count deaths . but i like all people who digging this case 9/11
you sick piece of shit, i hope a bus hits you the day you realise what a scrum bag you are, there are 3000 families out there without a husband, wife, sister, brother, you piece of vile,
@LolsOfRoflica Please google "The Jumpers septemberclues.info" for a short overview of this matter. For a full overview, google "Falling Man cluesforum" and read all 14 pages of that thread. Practically all available still pictures and video frames showing (what appear like) people falling people from the towers have been comprehensively analyzed. None of them stands up to close scrutiny - for a wide number of reasons. Yes, ALL that 9/11 imagery (as most of the rest) is fake.
@chriskendall1 You are way off base and obviously not a New Yorker. People continued to hope their relatives were just missing or injured for weeks after 911. Everyone in NY knows people who lost friends and relatives on 911, and thousands of relatives commemorate their passing at memorial services every year. 911 may have been an inside job but the victims are real. Maybe you are just attempting to discredit the truther movement with your claims that the victims are fake.
@bobspez We don't know how many people died or if anyone died at all. The evidence of victim simulation is rampant, from the lack of SSDI entries, the plethora of photoshop/clone/hacked-up images, the fake web memorials, and some obvious Acting jobs done by the "relatives".. Also reports of fire drills in the WTC on the morning of 9/11 and workers were denied entry.
Not saying nobody died, but the towers were most likely empty, and the 3,000 dead figure heavily exaggerated.
@LifePsyop I don't know how to say this more clearly. The towers were not empty. People we know personally went to work there every day at Kantor Fitzgerald. Most of the employees at Kantor died. About three hundred fireman died when the towers collapsed. The firemen would not have risked their lives after the first tower fell if the buildings were empty. They were not. This theory is pure phantasy but believe it if you want to.
@bobspez Its like if the mall where you went every day (and WTC was an enormous mall, a hub for subway and NJ commuter train departures) blew up and someone on youtube said, oh no, it's all Computer graphics, and your friends were dead and someone on youtube said, oh no they are just a fiction, no one died, the mall was empty. How would that feel to you, if you went to that mall weekly, and attended your friends funerals, and someone on you tube said, no you are a paid actor.
@bobspez I am not in a debate here and don't care what people believe, but something so wrong has to at least be addressed by pwople who know for a fact it's not so.
@bobspez It's "Cantor Fitzgerald".. I would think if you had friends there, you would know how to spell it. Your empty channel from 2007 looks like a sock-puppet account, as well. Who are you trying to fool?
@LifePsyop You are too clever for me. You are right. Everything you theorized is 100% true. Good for you. You have earned a great victory over the forces of evil.
@bobspez No big deal.. you disinfo shills are a dime a dozen.. I hope you don't get paid too much for this shoddy performance... why are you still posting comments here?
@LifePsyop I'm posting here to try to reach anyone with a brain, which excludes you and your little band of circle jerkers. You are most likely the psyops paid people, since your arrogance and bullshit and false flag theories are right out of the CIA handbook.
@bobspez BUT THE FIREMEN DIDNT RISK THE LIVES RUNNING INTO THE TOWERS. IT was a controlled situation. All the FF were actors. If they did run in the buildings at all it was strictly for a photo-op and they WERE NEVER in danger..
@bobspez@bobspez Hey Bob. People like Chris, People like myself, Simon, and the others not afraid to talk about where the research really takes us are the REAL truth movement. That Alex Jones, Stephen Jones, Richard Gage crowd is all about KEEPING the truth of 911 from you! They dont care which theory you believe really, as long as it involves 3000 victims and 4 airplanes. Both which are fabrications. Why dont you try to explain some things rather than attack ppl.
@bobspez where is all the debris if these building were so occupied? Why arent the REAL families speaking out about the staged memorials, abismal photoshopping, etc. ?? Why havent these ppl picked up their VCF money??? Is 2-3 million dollars not worth driving to pick it up??
@bobspez No. Chris is right on the money. The so-called 'truth movement' was clearly (and unsurprisingly) hijacked - since day 1 - to protect the full truth. The core of the truth to protect is the victim simulation. Without victims, of course, the 9/11 psyop would not have allowed the perps to bomb & loot foreign countries.Yet, to kill 3000 people in NY would have caused massive aggravation for the perps.The fake victims are the most crucial & most taboo topic- of this whole affair.
@LolsOfRoflica So,regarding the "jumpers" of 9/11 you'd rather believe the propaganda machine that is Loose Change instead of September Clues,ask yourself why it is that the likes of Loose Change,Alex Jones & Richard Gage have absolutely no problems getting themselves on the mainstream media while the brilliant work done by Simon Shack is totally ignored.
@LolsOfRoflica So you'd rather believe what you see on television than study facts,the world record for the long jump is roughly 29 ft with the added bonus of having a damn good run up,yet some of these "jumpers" landed 66 ft from the wtc without a run up,or maybe you believe they glided so far out on the thermals.
The SSA keeps a list of people who died after they started collecting Social Security. The 911 victims (at least those who died on September 11, 2001 – not the million plus who have been murdered since then) were working at the time and not collecting Social Security payments, so they are not in the database.
Amy Sweeney, Kevin Cosgrove, and Betty Ong are in the index. They died that day; some are not in the index, and there's a simple reason for it: you only get put in the index if your death is reported. Having no funeral decreases the chances of a death being reported by the funeral home. I looked up two friends who died, who did have funerals, and they're not in it. Guess they were sims.
@toddyfex They did exist, but they were actually brought down late September 10th/early September 11th. They brought the buildings down with CD in the middle of the night so nobody would notice, they then rebuilt the first 20 or 30 floors (but just the outside) and the rest was done using holograms. Much of the rubble from the actual towers was stored inside the "shell towers". Except of course the pieces that had evidence of thermite. Look it up, ppl in the area reported feeling an earthquake.
@Meeksgoo Ha ha ha ha haaaa...awww....haha ha.Brought them down in the middle of the night so nobody would notice,then rebuilt 20-30,overnight.I hope you are a troll or 9yrs old,if not you must be the most moronic person i have ever encountered.Nobody,just nobody is that stupid,brightened my day though,thanks.....ha ha ha haaaa.
@toddyfex You claim the SSDI is only for natural causes,so i googled passenger lists from "real" plane crashes and the very first name i came across was a young woman by the name of Amanda Holberg,killed on board American Eagle flight 4148 which crashed in Roselawn,Indiana on October 31st 1994....dying in a plane crash is hardly a natural cause and guess what..she is indeed listed on the SSDI.
R.I.P Amanda Holberg...victim of a "real" plane crash.
@kansasinnovember I was wrong but the reason the 9/11 victims arent listed is because they need a body to put someone on the ssi index. That is one of the jobs of a coroner. They didn't find many bodies that day so i imagine it took months to identify who was missing and who was dead. There are logical answers to all the questions these conspiracy nuts ask its just a matter of using descresion and not jumping to crazy conclusions which is something you obviously have problems with
The US government screwed up all over the place when it came to covering up their attacks on their own countrymen on 9/11. These obvious and massive "screw ups" are a testament to the stupidity of the average American. I'm surprised we aren't living a full on Communist society already.
Very interesting video.. thank you. I was wondering what you make of this august 2011 article: bit.ly /qkCZjw (remove space) where it is mentioned that the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner has identified 1,629 bodies through DNA profiles from remains.. still no 2986 bodies but much more as the 405 people listed in the Social Security Death Index.. any ideas?..
@nibirushock Where did they get the DNA to match? From the fake victims family members, the small pool of actors that you see in the media over and over? Everything is for sale in the 'developed' world, especially 'science'.
@nibirushock I don't think so. The lab techs job is just to match DNA samples. They would have no idea of knowing the true origin.Just the top guy would need to be bought off.
@chriskendall1.. thanks again..you make some interesting statements I will consider in my prolonged research..in my opinion we need more evidence in order to presume there were little to no victims involved in the destruction of the towers..I'd rather not touch that subject..however, there were undoubtedly fake projections that day which makes the whole incident very bizarre..I would like you to watch 2 of my latest videos and appreciate your opinion:
The 9/11 psyop relied heavily on the psychological principle of conformity and consensus.
The whole thing was an exercise in perception management. It makes sense to me to think that the most simple, time tested and failsafe methods would be employed to create the illusion, a deep understanding of the human psyche being the primary tool....(cont.)
Pyrotechnic explosions, fake smoke, live actors in the holes(evacuated before the demolition), planted chalk dust to obscure the destruction method of the stage prop hollow towers(empty since '97 see the book-Divided We Stand, Eric Dalton) and planted, rigged burning vehicles to obscure the aftermath with smoke.
A hollywood style script was created and sold on the television with fake cell phone calls and victim family actor/ memorial fund custodians...(cont.)
The only "exotic" tech would be the highly realistic fake footage, prepped and reviewed before the event, replete with demon faces in the smoke and flying orbs to help create contentious debate, endless speculation and arguments.
The footage is not perfect(Wnxbbwj9iW0) The "nose out" was done purposely to help create a cognitive dissonant schizophrenia by showing an obviously absurd scenario that most people accepted as real, discarding real reality in favor of consensus reality and thereby becoming even more mentally enslaved....(cont.)
Exotic tech would be totally unnecessary and a liability by introducing a large number of variables. From my examinations, 9/11 was more 'David Copperfield' and less DARPA.
@chriskendall1.. too bad you haven't watched the videos properly in order to see the exotic technology working with your own eyes.. from different angles.. but thanks for taking the time to give your opinion.
Isn’t the date of death confirmation the date that’s in the official documents? That is, when a lab identifies remains by genetic analysis, for example? Anything else would surprise me.
it was a zionist ploy to make america and the west fight israeli wars in the middle east so its pretty possible they made the number and victims up to enrage americans and make it a psychological shock, theyre good at these things, heck the zionists managed to push through a fantastic number of 6 millions after ww2 while official documents of the red cross, which had at all times acces to the concentration camps, account for 350 thousands
Several years ago I accessed the SSDI and found that this is indeed true! What I am wondering now is when did the SSDI become hard to find without it being attached to one of those geneology sites? I tried and finally got one. Here's what I found: Mark Bingham died in Pennsylvania (allegedly) whne flight 93 crashed. There are only 4 listed on the SSDI with that name and NONE of them died in 2001. I have his name from a magazine so I now it's correct. WTF?
I tried this myself. I compared the names on the 9/11 "victims" list and the four passenger lists against the Social Security death index. MOST of the 9/11 "victims" do NOT show up as dying on 9/11.
Edna cintron stands in the burning hole left by a CGI plane and waves to the watching world,Stanley Praimnath survives the head on collision of a CGI plane by hiding under his desk,and jumpers break world records for the long jump.....amazingly some people will believe without question that these happened but just don't have the brain capacity to realise the towers were empty.
It's amazing what you come up with when you go the the Index and compare the "list of victims" to who died that day in NY. Even if you just type in the names with no specific search criteria, I only found a handful of those people's deaths ANYWHERE in the US that day. Try searching for Mark Bingham...his death isn't listed. Try searching for any of them, you get very few positive results.
It´s a century of belief . It´s not new, politics does´t matter for most of americans. It´s not new, true history is not told on books at school. And now, "USA" gives you the option: conspiracy - victms disrespect,lack of patriotism , how could you!... as Clinton said. And the second option, the government-patriot . And then, many americans, who probably don´t read books, don´t know history, don´t vote, don´t ask why, just have time to get money and watch TV, come here and say how could you...
the use of alledged vicsims (simulated victims) was just an emotional and physcological kick in the balls needed to ensure your support and unquestioning loyalty in the fraud of 9/11.
no planes..no hijackers..no passengers..empty towers..just the demolition of redundant towers and a never ending supply of propaganda delivered through your best friend....your television
@cartoonplanes .....empty towers? are you buying into the theory that there were never fully constructed floors......never saw this till just the other day and must say...it's goes with the rest of the theories.
@yikesoyikes1 I'm buying into the FACT that if the government / media are going to all the time and effort to use the cgi plane hoax,then they'd certainly have the time to ensure the towers were empty before demolition..why needlessly slaughter thousands of your own people when all that was needed was the illusion of mass fatalities.
@cartoonplanes so you're saying that the thousands who witnessed a plane, some even saying a military plane, did not see anything. From all the different angles the videos and witnesses didn't see anything? And the giant stains on the pavement and blown apart bodies in the courtyard didn't really exist? When I saw the video where the host was saying someone show me where they poured concrete, I was stunned..Thought this must be a joke. Shaking my head. So then where are the people? peace
@yikesoyikes1 "The thousands who witnessed a plane" & "blown apart bodies in the courtyard".....please do show links to these...
...or maybe you could explain how a hollow aluminum plane could slice through a steel & concrete building without losing its wing tips & tail-section as if the towers were made from butter?
@cartoonplanes So I guess New York city was vacant that day? Links lol. "Links". Ok, OK, Why don't you show us some "links", that explain how we staged 9/11, but then couldn't find nukes in Iraq. We couldn't just plant some for the cameras & make up a story? Where is the link showing why we went through all that trouble to NOT FIND NUKES?
@cartoonplanes Yeah, a 250,000 pound plus, beer can moving over 400mph. How is a flimsy old drinking straw able to punch straight through the much harder structure of a potato? Does physics explain this? I bet there's a link to it.
@dnahulvey Do you really beieve any airline could penetrate a steel structured tower COMPLETELY intact ?
Do you believe a commercial jet engine could slice through & exit the same tower then drop 700ft out of the sky gaining momentum as it dropped yet leave absolutely ZERO impact damage to the asphalt on Murray Street ?
Do you believe any of the "jumpers" were capable of broadjumping twice the distance of the current world long jump record without a run-up ?
No. You cannot pay unexisting people. What we need to ask ourselves is: WHO pocketed the compensation fund monies? And we are talking about a couple of million bucks for each supposed victim of 9/11. Grab your calculator and see how much this adds up to. Guess where that cash came from. You guessed it: American taxpayers...
ps, the money is printed, not collected. Taxes cover the interest on the debt and little more. Usury doesn';t work so well if the debt is paid off
Thanks for all your contributions. Following up on your instigation, I am convinced more than ever that the archive was severly tamnpered with for every network, not just FOX. In particular, Peter Jennings' analysis and revelations of the day had to be hidden. Cheney was in Sarasota
Hey dumbass, you types "NY" into the box asking for the last registered residence. Not everyone who died on those towers lived in New York and not all of those people where registered to live there. If you leave out that search filter, there were well over 6,000 deaths in the U.S. and the vast majority of those were issued by new york. And kid, do your research next time. You might be able to fool the other retarded conspiracy theorists, but not everyone.
Hey dumbass, you types "NY" into the box asking for the last registered residence. Not everyone who died on those towers lived in New York and not all of those people where registered to live there. If you leave out that search filter, there were well over 6,000 deaths in the U.S. and the vast majority of those were issued by new york. And kid, do your research next time. You might be able to fool the other retarded conspiracy theorists, but not everyone.
@guitarguy57901 Hey Smarty Pants. There are NO FAMILY MEMBERS of PASSENGERS. Get it? Go find them. Good luck. No news reports. No interviews. Nothing dipstick. The slight of mind illusion has a limit to how far the curtain stretches. While ur at it, refresh urself on grade 5 science.
This is so stupid of course people died on 9/11 I mean are you people that fucking stupid? I swear you you conspiracy theorists are getting more dumb every single day. You are a disgrace to Americans everywhere and all those who died that day. RIP to all victims of 9/11.
Now, let's get real, folks: No one died on 9/11. there was simply no added value in killing 3000 white collar bankers/brokers/insurance people whose families would have had access to the top lawyers in town - and pestered the 9/11 perps - for decades ahead - with unending lawsuits. It's truly game over for the pathetic hoaxers.
Please check out the relevant research and make up your own mind:
@simonshack Actually there were several, I think. The ones the media woudln't name such as the 2 people cooked in the 140 Cedar/90 West elevator when the explosive blasts went through the building from wtc2.
There has been some excellent work suggesting the towers themselves were empty. While I don't have great proof yet, I am confident that rodgigues and those 2 others in the touching hospital bed scene and kenny johanneman were all actors; ABM was a closed union shop. They weren't union.
@simonshack You are a POS scam artists. Your pos videos have been debunked, you dare say my friends son never died and worst of all, you do it for the money. You are a scumbag. Thats why you FEAR, NY/NJ. You wouldnt last a second here. I feel sorry for the people who have bought into your BS. No plane in NY...XD I pray you get cancer and die a slow slow painfull death, just like the firemen and people trapped in that building on that horrible day. FU.
@kansasinnovember Get you facts straight buddy. The plane DID NOT travel though the building in as many frames as it did through the air. This notion of yours was debunked in 2007-08
Can an engine bounce of a building, before hitting the street below leaving impact damage where it landed NOT where it settled YES...FOIA tapes show this.Try watching them.
There were fake victims, but thats why Simon HACK wants you to BELIEVE the REAL VICTIMS ARE FAKE to DISCREDIT the REAL STORY. WAKE UP
@FreedumbFighter28 ...you mention the word debunked,when actually your belief that the hollow aluminium planes simply sliced through the steel structured towers without losing their fragile wing tips & tail sections was debunked 400 years ago by Isaac Newton.
@kansasinnovember wait, did you just change your argument because i called BS on your original one?
Maybe you should watch some rocket tests. Aluminum wings DO cut through steel and concrete. Hate to break it to ya. Now, even if the commercial planes CANT do that, no one has EVER ID the parts found. Another point you want to ignore. How about you NO PLANE guys go ID the parts, then come back with an explantion about the parts before sound crazy saying no planes, BUT TONS OF PARTS..XD
@FreedumbFighter28 Do you really expect people to believe that a commercial jet engine would slice through not 1 but 2 of the wtc steel structured walls and then simply "bounce" off another building and then roll up and nestle next to the scaffolding on Murray Street... Do you have any video showing this "bouncing engine" or is it hidden away inside your mind.
@kansasinnovember did you just change the topic.....AGAIN? Im done with ya dude. You do not wanna research for yerself. You want me to pull you out of hacky land. Im flattered and all, but I really dont have the time... FOIA video shows the engine, shows the impact damage on the adjacent buildings, photos from the library of congress show all impact damage. Now....Im sorry, but this little dodgefest of yours....with me at least, IS OVER. have a good one
@FreedumbFighter28 these peoples ignorance infuriates me. To suggest that no died on 9/11 isn't just stupid its extremely insensitive. I hope all the 9/11 truthers are in a building one day that gets hit by a plane and then collapses. Maybe then theyll shut the fuck up
@toddyfex Maybe their true motive is to discredit the truther movement. What other motive could they have? We are the wacky truthers, so discredit all truthers. I credit what the architects and engineers for 911 truth have put forward, because they have logic. I could even believe in the star wars ray hitting the buildings after the planes did due to the anomolies of pitted metal and unburned paper. But no people, CGI? Almost no one believes that, it only discredits all truthers.
@bobspez To this day through all of my research I haven't found any holes in the official 9/11 story. Islamic extremist hijacking airliners and crashing them into targets makes perfect sense and really, being a pilot myself, would not be very hard to do.
nah , they didnt even exist to start with , i think the name's used were the name's given to the detonator's of the explosive's packed into the tower's . more than 1 remote detonater's would of had to be used as they would not of been able to hide the fuse wire's between floor level's .
@THCmuzicalmasta I agree, they(+planes) never existed to start with but as for detonations, I'm on the Judy Wood trail now as no explosives can't dustify buildings of 1,500,000 tons into dust. I think a few bombs were planted but the technology is a bit more advanced than just bombs these days. Bombs are the 2nd layer of lies to hide the real factors here but hey it's important we keep researching and don't start arguing here. The perps r FUCKED, either here or in hell so justice will be done!!
@itsanillusion100 LOL, so the conspiracy is a conspiracy! You know there are facts and real data available surrounding this issue. You won't find it here tho I am afraid.
@toddyfex I agree the planes hit the towers, and many believe the fires brought down the towers. To me it's like the magic bullet that went through JFK, Connoly, and was "found" in pristine condition. The two towers coming down so quickly in an identical manner never made sense, nor did the third. But it's almost 50 years since the JFK assassinatin and still no satisfying answers for many people. I suspect in 2051 people will still be debating what brought down the towers. Peace.
@bobspez how do the buildings falling down in identical manner not make sense? That's how those buildings should have come down. A building of any size isn't going to stay up too long after being hit by a 757.
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its funny alot of pple forgot about the 5 men in the white van caught celebrating in 9/11 then they let go
i7lurve7u7q8 1 day ago
To the little band of turds who keep trying to get me to comment on this nonsense, go fuck yourselves.
bobspez 2 days ago
The official story was only pushed by the two biggest truthtellers in history: the media and politicians/government. (sarcastic)
maplespak 2 days ago
IS this Chris that is on with Markus alot on truth in 7 minutes?? Wsup buddy. Ive seen this before but i was about to post it somewhere and recognized your voice now. This is Brian. The one from Massachusetts. I came on twice in the last cpl of months. This is my channel.
BrianSStaveley 3 days ago
@BrianSStaveley Yes, same Chris. Glad you found this vid, man!
In case you weren't aware, we do talks here too:
talkshoe(dot)com/tc/90337
Hope you can catch it- we usually do it mondays at 8eastern
chriskendall1 2 days ago
@chriskendall1 lol I actually found it a while ago. Ive used this in my 30 page paper I wrote on 911. Obviously i had a ton of Sh%^ in there but your video was one I played for ppl. I had seen it a million times and still didnt realize it was you when we were on the radio. I went to dig it up to repost some stuff and when i was listening I was like hold on! I know this guy!
BrianSStaveley 2 days ago
@BrianSStaveley
That's funny. BTW- I don't know if you caught these:
fwd4(dot)me/06HR
fwd4(dot)me/06HI
chriskendall1 18 hours ago
Ppl what the hell is wrong with you?Are you still holding on the official story.There were NO VICTIMS.Pick ANY 5 victims and go find their familyes.
PS.Inside info:You'll find NONE.
bukowski1950 1 week ago 2
To everyone,the ssa DOES NOT HAVE A DEATH INDEX ONLINE!!!!! And it called the MASTER DEATH FILE. TYPE IN SSA DEATH INDEX AND SEE WHAT COMES UP, I PROMISE YOU THAT YOU WONT FIND IT. THIS GUY IS A LIAR AND A FRAUD IF YOU FIND IT EMAIL ME AT GIAGUNZ@gmail.com ill send you 50 dollars if im wrong. this guy iz a looser
parolevioltr666 2 weeks ago
All aboard the Truther Clown Fail Train!
Spindry96 3 weeks ago
@Spindry96 Hey Dipshit, dont crticise people for attempting to find the truth. You stick to what you were told by your superiors and hold it as "your truth" and in the meantime people with a hobby for finding "it" will do it for you. Just shut the fuck up in the process cause you'll be the first truther groupie to say something like " I had a funny feeling it was an inside job" when the truth comes out. Let the people work...shhhh
davidortiz7 1 week ago
@davidortiz7 Sigh.. another rude angry truther how predictable. Can you really blame me for criticizing a retarded video? This is not a search for truth it's a fantasy trip. Oh by the way l can comment on how l feel about any video on You Tube so take your hostile attempt of censorship elsewhere. In the mean time i'll hold my breath waiting for truthers to prove any of their many conflicting theories, actually no l won't it's already been ten years with zero proof or real evidence
Spindry96 1 week ago
@Spindry96 I just don't believe the story i was told. IMO it doesnt look like a 747/757 hit that street and then into the pentagon. If they told everyone it did then i would like to see some evidence. You are right, i do not have the truth nor any evidence. Whoever said a plane hit the pentagon and made it "truth" should some everyone their evidence?
davidortiz7 1 week ago
@davidortiz7 I have no problem people questioning, if no one questioned anything we would still think Oswald was a lone gunman. I do get anoyed at theories when they are built on false evidence, poor science or are just stupid like hologram planes. In regard to the Pentagon the photos of the plane wreckage of the American airlines passenger jet satisfies me that it was a plane
Spindry96 1 week ago
Could it be that they were declared dead at different dates, as their bodies or remains were identify by the coroner. It was a lot of bodies and parts to Identify and record, it must had taken months.
ClipOvision 3 weeks ago
@ClipOvision You don't see an appreciable rise in the yearly average either.
chriskendall1 3 weeks ago
Another thought...it would be interesting to see what kind of payout the insurance policies had on these victims, and who held the policies.
Fesheca 4 weeks ago
@Fesheca
Or, you could look at all the "Memorial" funds that have been set up.
chriskendall1 4 weeks ago
@chriskendall1 My God, we seriously are living in an alternative reality, or we already died and now we're in Hell!
Fesheca 4 weeks ago
You could probably see better results by putting in the individual names of the people. I'm sure there's a website with a list of all the supposed victims on the web somewhere. It would be time consuming, but I'd think after no record of the first 50 names, it would be a tell-tell sign of something nefarious. There's been so many lies told about 9/11, it wouldn't surprise me if most the names were fake and used to write multi-million $ benefit checks to "themselves," NOT the victim's families.
Fesheca 4 weeks ago
@Fesheca May I suggest you to look up the following research material on the subject?
For an exhaustive 80-page analysis, do a google search for THE VICSIM REPORT.
For a more concise overview of the issue, please enter my website septemberclues.info and read these 2 articles:
- "THE MEMORIAL SCAMS"
- "DECONSTRUCTING 9/11"
simonshack 4 weeks ago 3
@simonshack Thanks sweetie! ;-)
Fesheca 4 weeks ago
I think there was only one real plane, and it was shot down near the faked pennsylvania site. If the whole thing was planned, then why did they need a fourth plane after all the great evidence for terrorists, etc. already created? - because they needed at least a few real victims! The pentagon 'crash' creates the reason to shoot down the next plane, and the next plane creates bodies and 'plane wreckage evidence'. They need a fake crash so that no one realizes the bodies are on the wrong plane.
prescientbeing 1 month ago
@prescientbeing Wow what a ridiculous theory
Spindry96 4 weeks ago
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The 'bolt theory' maintains the bolts which held these steel structures together, were either 'explosive' bolts, or 'exotic' bolts, packed with thermite, and triggered by sending high electrical current through these buildings steel structure. There is evidence to suggest such, inc reports of generators exploding, loss of power in surrounding area, although trade towers maintained power, fact, wtc 7 had an electricity substation, and unprecedented power down of twin towers shortly before 9/11.
carolann2555 1 month ago
No plane theory = No brain theory.
Hit like if you agree!
dnahulvey 1 month ago
I want to see the link that tells us why we went through all the trouble staging 9/11 so we could go to war with the middle east, but then couldn't find nukes or even plant some for the media in Iraq. "They" couldn't green screen that? We can fake planes going into & knocking down skyscrapers, hide thousands of deaths, silence tens of thousands involved in the events of that day, get Arabs (same who attacked us numerous times before) to admit to it,make fake vids & load them on citizens cameras-
dnahulvey 1 month ago
@dnahulvey But couldn't find 1 NUKE in Iraq??? Come on man...
dnahulvey 1 month ago
Lol, Your not doing RP any favors with that kind of talk! "Obviously"!
dnahulvey 1 month ago
to much going on everywhere , 911 was obviously an inside job , i know that much !!! Ron Paul 2012 !!!!
TheGuidoCongetti 1 month ago
Hey Oneg, you do realize that you are learning this conspiracy stuff right where it was invented, on You Tube. There is absolutely zero physical evidence to support any of those claims other than theories & deceptive you tube videos. Most all have been debunked. Look at both sides of the coin always. Check both sides thouroughly please. For all our sakes. You are a hero for your service even if you dont know it!
dnahulvey 1 month ago
@dnahulvey oh god u dont make it obvious do you??? stupid paid cointelpro shill
wellifthemediasaysit 1 month ago
@wellifthemediasaysit Well your the one with the fake troll account.
dnahulvey 1 month ago
I stayed away from 9/11 vids since my tour in Iraq,my brother is now on his 3rd tour in Afghanistan protecting Opium Farmers_I've been studying so much suppressed information about,MercuryVapor & Fluoride,U.S.Patent#5676799 The AIDS Cure_Nikola Tesla & Free Energy_Rick Simpson Arrested 4Curing Cancer w/Hemp Oil_The Pyramids arent Tombs 4 Pharaohs they're Electrical Devices,I can go on & on_We are slaves,D.C. Is the headquarters for the 50 Companies in this Corporation we call the U.S.
GreenmanTypeOneg 1 month ago
Na maybe they couldn't confirm dead til they wer found!!
lggrundy1 1 month ago
*steel* Cant have typos with spell check for brains trolls.
dnahulvey 1 month ago
No plane theory = No brain theory. 250,000lbs. +, would have no problem slicing through the thin exterior of any steal structure. The wings are the fuel tanks. Quite alot of mass there. Your theory makes no sense and is lackin logic.
dnahulvey 1 month ago
So tell us Cartoonbrains, what exactly happens to a QUARTER OF A MILLION POUNDS when it runs into the side of a building at a high rate of speed?? What should have happend?
dnahulvey 1 month ago
@dnahulvey It's wonderfully ironic that YOU should be the one calling anyone "Cartoonbrains"- since it appears you are a staunch believer in the cartoon-like, digitally animated imagery shown on 9/11. You ask: "What should have happened?" Well, one thing is for sure: Certainly NOT what we see in the various videos - a total penetration of the entire airliner, wings, tail-section and all. I'd say anyone prone to believe such a thing is possible, has watched far too many cartoons.
simonshack 1 month ago
@simonshack Of all these fools that can't get to grips with what's blatantly staring them in the face @dnahulvey seems to fall into the 2 piece jigsaw brigade,while others seem to either push the "official" conspiracy theory as a career or just happen to be using the flag as a blindfold.
I'm sure if @dnahulvey wanted me to respond to his attempt at an insult he would have the intelligence to actually use the reply button...or would he?.
cartoonplanes 1 month ago 2
I guess the planes were suppose to bounce off the buildings like they might do in cartoons huh? Have you ever looked to see how much one of those "aluminum tubes" wieghs when packed with fuel? And you call me the shill idiot! Come on man.
dnahulvey 1 month ago
@dnahulvey You've actually got that the wrong way around: In cartoons, such as the Looney Tunes series, Wile E Coyote penetrates rocks and leaves a cut-out imprint of himself in the rock- and nothing bounces off the rock. In real life, a 200mph Indycar will crash head-on into a concrete wall, and yes, most of the racing car will bounce off of it. Check it out for yourself: watch?v=QyU8jHmkXTE
What we see in the 9/11 imagery is beyond silly - and defies every known law of physics.
simonshack 1 month ago 11
@simonshack Sorry but this comparison is no good. Indy cars are around 1500lbs. A 757 is upwards of 255,000lbs.! HUGE difference. 255,000lbs., IS NO BEER CAN. A 1000+ TON wrecking ball moving at over 400mph. Simple logic & common sense should kick in at this point. There are thousands of videos & eye witness accounts all showing & telling of the same thing. Tens of thousands involved in rescue & recovery. All paid off? Or Killed? No whistle blowers with evidence? Come on man...
dnahulvey 1 month ago
@dnahulvey Nobody has ever suggested that the planes would simply "bounce off" the towers..but if you really think they would slice through the steel towers intact and have the fragile nose cone exit the other side (something the media tried & failed to hide with their logo banners & fade to black screens) then there is a vacant space between your ears.
cartoonplanes 1 month ago
Isaac Newtons 3rd Law Of Motion "For every action there is an equal & opposite reaction"...meaning for every force there is a reaction force equal in size but in the opposite direction. Fake 9/11 impact footage shows hollow aluminum planes slice through steel structured towers with zero damage to these flying beer cans,while the steel towers crumble to dust...
Sorry shills you can NOT re-write the laws of physics just to support the "official" conspiracy theory..
septembercluesDOTinfo.
cartoonplanes 1 month ago
@cartoonplanes OK "Mr. Physics"... Have you ever stabbed a drinking straw through a potato?? It works. Try it sometime.
dnahulvey 1 month ago
@dnahulvey No, I haven't forced a drinking straw through a potato and planes can't go through steel girders. Ever seen what bird does to a plane? You keep watching TV and trusting your Government, everything's OK. I won't be answering so don't waste your time responding. It's like talking to a brick.
itsanillusion100 1 month ago
@dnahulvey What's that..you want links proving 9/11 was a hoax,a con,a complete pile of cgi crap...try watching every single video of "planes" hitting the towers...
....and please if you want to appear to have even the slightest sign of intelligence don't compare a hollow aluminum plane slicing through a steel structured tower with a fucking straw and a potato.
cartoonplanes 1 month ago
Whatever you believe about what happened on 9/11 is irrelevant, this is a very good point and there might be a very simple explanation... What about the Life Insurance policies of the victims, have they been payed to the families? There is a procedure people have to go through when someone dies, regardless of the circumstances surrounding it.
1965ajax 1 month ago
So your trusting ANYTHING linked with Social Security to be accurate? Thats cute.
snappy452 1 month ago
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This is a load of crap. No one HAS to register a death with Social Security. The only reason that a death has to be registered with the SSA is if the deceased had been receiving SS benefits - or if their children or spouse will be eligible to receive "survivor benefits". There is otherwise no legal reason to inform SS about a death.
You've heard of people who live off their dead parents' SS benefits? They were legally required to report but did not.
911patagonia 1 month ago
I checked out the people in the towers and in the planes for a famous web site lets roll and there wore fake names people where dead before 911 or after 911 same why with the Oklahoma bombing also staged
bushbasher46 1 month ago
@LolsOfRoflica "whether or not people died"...
One of the very reasons people can not wake up to the truth is because of the constant propaganda surrounding the "alledged" victims by the mass media.
All people need to do to realise 9/11 was an inside job is...
1..study the "original" nose-out footage
2..study the occupency figures of the WTC.and
3..study the footage of the jumpers..
septembercluesDOTinfo
cartoonplanes 1 month ago
@cartoonplanes did go back and look at the "nose out" and it was just a statement by the commentator. To build the impossibilty of something happening because this guy said nose out...What if he would have said...OMG look at that..look at the force that is pushing all that "debris" out the other side." Would that have made a dif. I mean there was debris being ejected from the other side. Footage of the jumpers? to establish what?
yikesoyikes1 1 month ago
@cartoonplanes just went to sept. clues and saw the 1 st two min. The film show the (supposed)mistakenly fabricated "nose out" footage. Why is it then from all the differant angles of this impact that we see the same ejection of debris thru the other side of the buildind. Again..they take the parts they coose to interpret and work the spin. I will watch the rest of the vid. but 2 min. in it appears to be crap...just saying.
yikesoyikes1 1 month ago
@LolsOfRoflica If they can plant passports from the "hijackers" on the steets of NYC they can plant people to say oh my god he jumped and other gasps and screams that are staged.
TakeBackAmerica2012 1 month ago
in this case is hard to make a list of deaths in same day .propably they declare all lost lifes after some time . for sure they could not manage to even count deaths . but i like all people who digging this case 9/11
scoopo81 1 month ago
you sick piece of shit, i hope a bus hits you the day you realise what a scrum bag you are, there are 3000 families out there without a husband, wife, sister, brother, you piece of vile,
cottoniiijoe 2 months ago
@LolsOfRoflica Please google "The Jumpers septemberclues.info" for a short overview of this matter. For a full overview, google "Falling Man cluesforum" and read all 14 pages of that thread. Practically all available still pictures and video frames showing (what appear like) people falling people from the towers have been comprehensively analyzed. None of them stands up to close scrutiny - for a wide number of reasons. Yes, ALL that 9/11 imagery (as most of the rest) is fake.
simonshack 2 months ago
Maybe they weren't added until they were declared dead. Which was often weeks after, because they were just "missing" at first?
Howie47 2 months ago
@Howie47 Taking the monthly or even yearly averages gives you the same results.
chriskendall1 2 months ago
@chriskendall1 You are way off base and obviously not a New Yorker. People continued to hope their relatives were just missing or injured for weeks after 911. Everyone in NY knows people who lost friends and relatives on 911, and thousands of relatives commemorate their passing at memorial services every year. 911 may have been an inside job but the victims are real. Maybe you are just attempting to discredit the truther movement with your claims that the victims are fake.
bobspez 1 month ago
@bobspez We don't know how many people died or if anyone died at all. The evidence of victim simulation is rampant, from the lack of SSDI entries, the plethora of photoshop/clone/hacked-up images, the fake web memorials, and some obvious Acting jobs done by the "relatives".. Also reports of fire drills in the WTC on the morning of 9/11 and workers were denied entry.
Not saying nobody died, but the towers were most likely empty, and the 3,000 dead figure heavily exaggerated.
LifePsyop 1 month ago
@LifePsyop I don't know how to say this more clearly. The towers were not empty. People we know personally went to work there every day at Kantor Fitzgerald. Most of the employees at Kantor died. About three hundred fireman died when the towers collapsed. The firemen would not have risked their lives after the first tower fell if the buildings were empty. They were not. This theory is pure phantasy but believe it if you want to.
bobspez 1 month ago
@bobspez Its like if the mall where you went every day (and WTC was an enormous mall, a hub for subway and NJ commuter train departures) blew up and someone on youtube said, oh no, it's all Computer graphics, and your friends were dead and someone on youtube said, oh no they are just a fiction, no one died, the mall was empty. How would that feel to you, if you went to that mall weekly, and attended your friends funerals, and someone on you tube said, no you are a paid actor.
bobspez 1 month ago
@bobspez I am not in a debate here and don't care what people believe, but something so wrong has to at least be addressed by pwople who know for a fact it's not so.
bobspez 1 month ago
@bobspez It's "Cantor Fitzgerald".. I would think if you had friends there, you would know how to spell it. Your empty channel from 2007 looks like a sock-puppet account, as well. Who are you trying to fool?
LifePsyop 1 month ago
@LifePsyop You are too clever for me. You are right. Everything you theorized is 100% true. Good for you. You have earned a great victory over the forces of evil.
bobspez 1 month ago
@bobspez No big deal.. you disinfo shills are a dime a dozen.. I hope you don't get paid too much for this shoddy performance... why are you still posting comments here?
LifePsyop 1 month ago
@LifePsyop I'm posting here to try to reach anyone with a brain, which excludes you and your little band of circle jerkers. You are most likely the psyops paid people, since your arrogance and bullshit and false flag theories are right out of the CIA handbook.
bobspez 1 month ago
@bobspez BUT THE FIREMEN DIDNT RISK THE LIVES RUNNING INTO THE TOWERS. IT was a controlled situation. All the FF were actors. If they did run in the buildings at all it was strictly for a photo-op and they WERE NEVER in danger..
BrianSStaveley 2 days ago
@bobspez @bobspez Hey Bob. People like Chris, People like myself, Simon, and the others not afraid to talk about where the research really takes us are the REAL truth movement. That Alex Jones, Stephen Jones, Richard Gage crowd is all about KEEPING the truth of 911 from you! They dont care which theory you believe really, as long as it involves 3000 victims and 4 airplanes. Both which are fabrications. Why dont you try to explain some things rather than attack ppl.
BrianSStaveley 2 days ago
@bobspez where is all the debris if these building were so occupied? Why arent the REAL families speaking out about the staged memorials, abismal photoshopping, etc. ?? Why havent these ppl picked up their VCF money??? Is 2-3 million dollars not worth driving to pick it up??
BrianSStaveley 2 days ago
@bobspez No. Chris is right on the money. The so-called 'truth movement' was clearly (and unsurprisingly) hijacked - since day 1 - to protect the full truth. The core of the truth to protect is the victim simulation. Without victims, of course, the 9/11 psyop would not have allowed the perps to bomb & loot foreign countries.Yet, to kill 3000 people in NY would have caused massive aggravation for the perps.The fake victims are the most crucial & most taboo topic- of this whole affair.
simonshack 1 month ago
@Howie47 Yeah, likeTEN years?
itsanillusion100 1 month ago
@LolsOfRoflica So,regarding the "jumpers" of 9/11 you'd rather believe the propaganda machine that is Loose Change instead of September Clues,ask yourself why it is that the likes of Loose Change,Alex Jones & Richard Gage have absolutely no problems getting themselves on the mainstream media while the brilliant work done by Simon Shack is totally ignored.
Control the media...Control the masses.
cartoonplanes 2 months ago 10
@LolsOfRoflica So you'd rather believe what you see on television than study facts,the world record for the long jump is roughly 29 ft with the added bonus of having a damn good run up,yet some of these "jumpers" landed 66 ft from the wtc without a run up,or maybe you believe they glided so far out on the thermals.
cartoonplanes 2 months ago
Is it supposed to be anyone who died in New York City or just residents of New York City? Sorry had to listen to it turned down quite a bit.
4891heather 2 months ago
@4891heather
The entire state of New York.
chriskendall1 2 months ago
Newsday has down 496 profiles total. The profiles includes the never found!!! Big mistake. This is like NYPD drone photo.
danp5648 2 months ago
The SSA keeps a list of people who died after they started collecting Social Security. The 911 victims (at least those who died on September 11, 2001 – not the million plus who have been murdered since then) were working at the time and not collecting Social Security payments, so they are not in the database.
toddyfex 2 months ago
There are no family members of passengers. Have a nice day.
Psy0psAgent 2 months ago
Amy Sweeney, Kevin Cosgrove, and Betty Ong are in the index. They died that day; some are not in the index, and there's a simple reason for it: you only get put in the index if your death is reported. Having no funeral decreases the chances of a death being reported by the funeral home. I looked up two friends who died, who did have funerals, and they're not in it. Guess they were sims.
belowthepovertyline 2 months ago
I think a piece of plane wreckage hit this guys head, REALLLLY hard... SSDI only register deaths that are reported by the families,
RAFARO1986 2 months ago
Whats next people are going to start arguing if the world trade center actually ever existed
toddyfex 2 months ago
@toddyfex They did exist, but they were actually brought down late September 10th/early September 11th. They brought the buildings down with CD in the middle of the night so nobody would notice, they then rebuilt the first 20 or 30 floors (but just the outside) and the rest was done using holograms. Much of the rubble from the actual towers was stored inside the "shell towers". Except of course the pieces that had evidence of thermite. Look it up, ppl in the area reported feeling an earthquake.
Meeksgoo 2 months ago
@Meeksgoo you are either schizophrenic or extremely stupid
toddyfex 2 months ago
@Meeksgoo Ha ha ha ha haaaa...awww....haha ha.Brought them down in the middle of the night so nobody would notice,then rebuilt 20-30,overnight.I hope you are a troll or 9yrs old,if not you must be the most moronic person i have ever encountered.Nobody,just nobody is that stupid,brightened my day though,thanks.....ha ha ha haaaa.
pookster78 2 months ago
@Meeksgoo ok,you are a troll,good laugh though,cant believe some people actually believe that though,madness.
pookster78 2 months ago
they wouldnt be listed on 9/11 it took months to identify the victims also the ssn death index is for death by natural causes
toddyfex 2 months ago
@toddyfex You claim the SSDI is only for natural causes,so i googled passenger lists from "real" plane crashes and the very first name i came across was a young woman by the name of Amanda Holberg,killed on board American Eagle flight 4148 which crashed in Roselawn,Indiana on October 31st 1994....dying in a plane crash is hardly a natural cause and guess what..she is indeed listed on the SSDI.
R.I.P Amanda Holberg...victim of a "real" plane crash.
kansasinnovember 2 months ago
@kansasinnovember I was wrong but the reason the 9/11 victims arent listed is because they need a body to put someone on the ssi index. That is one of the jobs of a coroner. They didn't find many bodies that day so i imagine it took months to identify who was missing and who was dead. There are logical answers to all the questions these conspiracy nuts ask its just a matter of using descresion and not jumping to crazy conclusions which is something you obviously have problems with
toddyfex 2 months ago
Great video, very informative. Thank you.
IranContraScumDid911 2 months ago
excellent Detective work!!!
ChrisnStarry 3 months ago in playlist Watch Later
The US government screwed up all over the place when it came to covering up their attacks on their own countrymen on 9/11. These obvious and massive "screw ups" are a testament to the stupidity of the average American. I'm surprised we aren't living a full on Communist society already.
tshirtfaction 3 months ago
Very interesting video.. thank you. I was wondering what you make of this august 2011 article: bit.ly /qkCZjw (remove space) where it is mentioned that the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner has identified 1,629 bodies through DNA profiles from remains.. still no 2986 bodies but much more as the 405 people listed in the Social Security Death Index.. any ideas?..
nibirushock 3 months ago
@nibirushock I think the towers were completely devoid of living people when they fell. Whatever "remains" were found are fraudulent.
chriskendall1 3 months ago
@chriskendall1.. how do you think the 1629 identified DNA profiles from remains got there at the 9/11 scene?..
nibirushock 3 months ago
@nibirushock Where did they get the DNA to match? From the fake victims family members, the small pool of actors that you see in the media over and over? Everything is for sale in the 'developed' world, especially 'science'.
chriskendall1 3 months ago
@chriskendall1.. thanks for your answer.. doesn't this mean the whole office should have to be bribed up till this present moment?..
nibirushock 3 months ago
@nibirushock I don't think so. The lab techs job is just to match DNA samples. They would have no idea of knowing the true origin.Just the top guy would need to be bought off.
chriskendall1 3 months ago
@chriskendall1.. thanks again..you make some interesting statements I will consider in my prolonged research..in my opinion we need more evidence in order to presume there were little to no victims involved in the destruction of the towers..I'd rather not touch that subject..however, there were undoubtedly fake projections that day which makes the whole incident very bizarre..I would like you to watch 2 of my latest videos and appreciate your opinion:
> watch?v=pZ6vgo11Sto
> watch?v=r_EP4fZcYk
nibirushock 3 months ago
@nibirushock
The 9/11 psyop relied heavily on the psychological principle of conformity and consensus.
The whole thing was an exercise in perception management. It makes sense to me to think that the most simple, time tested and failsafe methods would be employed to create the illusion, a deep understanding of the human psyche being the primary tool....(cont.)
chriskendall1 3 months ago
@chriskendall1
Pyrotechnic explosions, fake smoke, live actors in the holes(evacuated before the demolition), planted chalk dust to obscure the destruction method of the stage prop hollow towers(empty since '97 see the book-Divided We Stand, Eric Dalton) and planted, rigged burning vehicles to obscure the aftermath with smoke.
A hollywood style script was created and sold on the television with fake cell phone calls and victim family actor/ memorial fund custodians...(cont.)
chriskendall1 3 months ago
@chriskendall1
The only "exotic" tech would be the highly realistic fake footage, prepped and reviewed before the event, replete with demon faces in the smoke and flying orbs to help create contentious debate, endless speculation and arguments.
...(cont.)
chriskendall1 3 months ago
@chriskendall1
The footage is not perfect(Wnxbbwj9iW0) The "nose out" was done purposely to help create a cognitive dissonant schizophrenia by showing an obviously absurd scenario that most people accepted as real, discarding real reality in favor of consensus reality and thereby becoming even more mentally enslaved....(cont.)
chriskendall1 3 months ago
@chriskendall1
Exotic tech would be totally unnecessary and a liability by introducing a large number of variables. From my examinations, 9/11 was more 'David Copperfield' and less DARPA.
chriskendall1 3 months ago
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nibirushock 3 months ago
@chriskendall1.. too bad you haven't watched the videos properly in order to see the exotic technology working with your own eyes.. from different angles.. but thanks for taking the time to give your opinion.
nibirushock 3 months ago
Isn’t the date of death confirmation the date that’s in the official documents? That is, when a lab identifies remains by genetic analysis, for example? Anything else would surprise me.
albedoshader 4 months ago
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it was a zionist ploy to make america and the west fight israeli wars in the middle east so its pretty possible they made the number and victims up to enrage americans and make it a psychological shock, theyre good at these things, heck the zionists managed to push through a fantastic number of 6 millions after ww2 while official documents of the red cross, which had at all times acces to the concentration camps, account for 350 thousands
getovsvk 4 months ago
Several years ago I accessed the SSDI and found that this is indeed true! What I am wondering now is when did the SSDI become hard to find without it being attached to one of those geneology sites? I tried and finally got one. Here's what I found: Mark Bingham died in Pennsylvania (allegedly) whne flight 93 crashed. There are only 4 listed on the SSDI with that name and NONE of them died in 2001. I have his name from a magazine so I now it's correct. WTF?
AlexO1929 4 months ago
Well done chris,the world needs more people like you.
kansasinnovember 4 months ago 6
I tried this myself. I compared the names on the 9/11 "victims" list and the four passenger lists against the Social Security death index. MOST of the 9/11 "victims" do NOT show up as dying on 9/11.
WE WERE SCAMMED.
lmfecher 4 months ago 3
Edna cintron stands in the burning hole left by a CGI plane and waves to the watching world,Stanley Praimnath survives the head on collision of a CGI plane by hiding under his desk,and jumpers break world records for the long jump.....amazingly some people will believe without question that these happened but just don't have the brain capacity to realise the towers were empty.
nice work Chris.
kansasinnovember 4 months ago
It's amazing what you come up with when you go the the Index and compare the "list of victims" to who died that day in NY. Even if you just type in the names with no specific search criteria, I only found a handful of those people's deaths ANYWHERE in the US that day. Try searching for Mark Bingham...his death isn't listed. Try searching for any of them, you get very few positive results.
NtYourAvgPrncess 5 months ago 2
It´s a century of belief . It´s not new, politics does´t matter for most of americans. It´s not new, true history is not told on books at school. And now, "USA" gives you the option: conspiracy - victms disrespect,lack of patriotism , how could you!... as Clinton said. And the second option, the government-patriot . And then, many americans, who probably don´t read books, don´t know history, don´t vote, don´t ask why, just have time to get money and watch TV, come here and say how could you...
void38 5 months ago
the use of alledged vicsims (simulated victims) was just an emotional and physcological kick in the balls needed to ensure your support and unquestioning loyalty in the fraud of 9/11.
no planes..no hijackers..no passengers..empty towers..just the demolition of redundant towers and a never ending supply of propaganda delivered through your best friend....your television
cartoonplanes 5 months ago 26
@cartoonplanes Funny..
Are you trolling?
AccessDenied55 2 months ago
@AccessDenied55 Funny..
Are you going to make a point regarding this video,or just here to talk shit?
cartoonplanes 2 months ago
@cartoonplanes .....empty towers? are you buying into the theory that there were never fully constructed floors......never saw this till just the other day and must say...it's goes with the rest of the theories.
yikesoyikes1 1 month ago
@yikesoyikes1 I'm buying into the FACT that if the government / media are going to all the time and effort to use the cgi plane hoax,then they'd certainly have the time to ensure the towers were empty before demolition..why needlessly slaughter thousands of your own people when all that was needed was the illusion of mass fatalities.
cartoonplanes 1 month ago
@cartoonplanes so you're saying that the thousands who witnessed a plane, some even saying a military plane, did not see anything. From all the different angles the videos and witnesses didn't see anything? And the giant stains on the pavement and blown apart bodies in the courtyard didn't really exist? When I saw the video where the host was saying someone show me where they poured concrete, I was stunned..Thought this must be a joke. Shaking my head. So then where are the people? peace
yikesoyikes1 1 month ago
@yikesoyikes1 "The thousands who witnessed a plane" & "blown apart bodies in the courtyard".....please do show links to these...
...or maybe you could explain how a hollow aluminum plane could slice through a steel & concrete building without losing its wing tips & tail-section as if the towers were made from butter?
cartoonplanes 1 month ago 5
@cartoonplanes So I guess New York city was vacant that day? Links lol. "Links". Ok, OK, Why don't you show us some "links", that explain how we staged 9/11, but then couldn't find nukes in Iraq. We couldn't just plant some for the cameras & make up a story? Where is the link showing why we went through all that trouble to NOT FIND NUKES?
dnahulvey 1 month ago
@cartoonplanes Yeah, a 250,000 pound plus, beer can moving over 400mph. How is a flimsy old drinking straw able to punch straight through the much harder structure of a potato? Does physics explain this? I bet there's a link to it.
dnahulvey 1 month ago
@dnahulvey Do you really beieve any airline could penetrate a steel structured tower COMPLETELY intact ?
Do you believe a commercial jet engine could slice through & exit the same tower then drop 700ft out of the sky gaining momentum as it dropped yet leave absolutely ZERO impact damage to the asphalt on Murray Street ?
Do you believe any of the "jumpers" were capable of broadjumping twice the distance of the current world long jump record without a run-up ?
cartoonplanes 1 month ago 4
@cartoonplanes Yes, Yes, & lets see; Yes
dnahulvey 1 month ago
this is so stupid.
WovenWomb 5 months ago
Did all those ppl get paid to fake their deaths?
myleahwilliams 5 months ago
@myleahwilliams
No. You cannot pay unexisting people. What we need to ask ourselves is: WHO pocketed the compensation fund monies? And we are talking about a couple of million bucks for each supposed victim of 9/11. Grab your calculator and see how much this adds up to. Guess where that cash came from. You guessed it: American taxpayers...
simonshack 4 months ago 3
@simonshack Easy..
Same people who get the lottery winnings!
ps, the money is printed, not collected. Taxes cover the interest on the debt and little more. Usury doesn';t work so well if the debt is paid off
Thanks for all your contributions. Following up on your instigation, I am convinced more than ever that the archive was severly tamnpered with for every network, not just FOX. In particular, Peter Jennings' analysis and revelations of the day had to be hidden. Cheney was in Sarasota
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
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Hey dumbass, you types "NY" into the box asking for the last registered residence. Not everyone who died on those towers lived in New York and not all of those people where registered to live there. If you leave out that search filter, there were well over 6,000 deaths in the U.S. and the vast majority of those were issued by new york. And kid, do your research next time. You might be able to fool the other retarded conspiracy theorists, but not everyone.
guitarguy57901 5 months ago
Hey dumbass, you types "NY" into the box asking for the last registered residence. Not everyone who died on those towers lived in New York and not all of those people where registered to live there. If you leave out that search filter, there were well over 6,000 deaths in the U.S. and the vast majority of those were issued by new york. And kid, do your research next time. You might be able to fool the other retarded conspiracy theorists, but not everyone.
guitarguy57901 5 months ago
@guitarguy57901 Hey Smarty Pants. There are NO FAMILY MEMBERS of PASSENGERS. Get it? Go find them. Good luck. No news reports. No interviews. Nothing dipstick. The slight of mind illusion has a limit to how far the curtain stretches. While ur at it, refresh urself on grade 5 science.
Psy0psAgent 5 months ago
@Psy0psAgent and if ya wanna challenge me. Be willing to submit full commercial liability and agree to pay if wrong. Cheers! Snookums.
Psy0psAgent 5 months ago
This is so stupid of course people died on 9/11 I mean are you people that fucking stupid? I swear you you conspiracy theorists are getting more dumb every single day. You are a disgrace to Americans everywhere and all those who died that day. RIP to all victims of 9/11.
SolarisDeLuna 5 months ago
@SolarisDeLuna STFU No one died on that day.... Do you know anybody who died? Huh!!?? Exactly.
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jawsflounderace 5 months ago
@NotableJinx He just doesn't want to do the thing that makes the most sense because he knows he will find out he's wrong.
gstanz67 6 months ago
Great info, Chris. Very matter-of-factly...
Now, let's get real, folks: No one died on 9/11. there was simply no added value in killing 3000 white collar bankers/brokers/insurance people whose families would have had access to the top lawyers in town - and pestered the 9/11 perps - for decades ahead - with unending lawsuits. It's truly game over for the pathetic hoaxers.
Please check out the relevant research and make up your own mind:
tinyurl . com / MEMSCAMS (remove all spaces)
simonshack 6 months ago 16
@simonshack Actually there were several, I think. The ones the media woudln't name such as the 2 people cooked in the 140 Cedar/90 West elevator when the explosive blasts went through the building from wtc2.
There has been some excellent work suggesting the towers themselves were empty. While I don't have great proof yet, I am confident that rodgigues and those 2 others in the touching hospital bed scene and kenny johanneman were all actors; ABM was a closed union shop. They weren't union.
CNN911Fakes 4 months ago
@simonshack You are a POS scam artists. Your pos videos have been debunked, you dare say my friends son never died and worst of all, you do it for the money. You are a scumbag. Thats why you FEAR, NY/NJ. You wouldnt last a second here. I feel sorry for the people who have bought into your BS. No plane in NY...XD I pray you get cancer and die a slow slow painfull death, just like the firemen and people trapped in that building on that horrible day. FU.
Sincerly,
A 911 truther from NY
FreedumbFighter28 2 months ago
@FreedumbFighter28 Can aluminium planes slice through steel structured towers fully intact making the towers appear as if they were made from butter?
Can any plane travel the length of itself through STEEL & CONCRETE in the same number of frames as it does through AIR?
How can an airline engine drop out of the sky from 700ft and leave ZERO impact damage to the street surface below.
Why would the "alledged" victims not be listed as dead on the SSDI if the official story were true?
kansasinnovember 2 months ago
@kansasinnovember Get you facts straight buddy. The plane DID NOT travel though the building in as many frames as it did through the air. This notion of yours was debunked in 2007-08
Can an engine bounce of a building, before hitting the street below leaving impact damage where it landed NOT where it settled YES...FOIA tapes show this.Try watching them.
There were fake victims, but thats why Simon HACK wants you to BELIEVE the REAL VICTIMS ARE FAKE to DISCREDIT the REAL STORY. WAKE UP
FreedumbFighter28 2 months ago
@FreedumbFighter28 ...you mention the word debunked,when actually your belief that the hollow aluminium planes simply sliced through the steel structured towers without losing their fragile wing tips & tail sections was debunked 400 years ago by Isaac Newton.
kansasinnovember 2 months ago 2
@kansasinnovember wait, did you just change your argument because i called BS on your original one?
Maybe you should watch some rocket tests. Aluminum wings DO cut through steel and concrete. Hate to break it to ya. Now, even if the commercial planes CANT do that, no one has EVER ID the parts found. Another point you want to ignore. How about you NO PLANE guys go ID the parts, then come back with an explantion about the parts before sound crazy saying no planes, BUT TONS OF PARTS..XD
FreedumbFighter28 2 months ago
@FreedumbFighter28 Do you really expect people to believe that a commercial jet engine would slice through not 1 but 2 of the wtc steel structured walls and then simply "bounce" off another building and then roll up and nestle next to the scaffolding on Murray Street... Do you have any video showing this "bouncing engine" or is it hidden away inside your mind.
kansasinnovember 2 months ago
@kansasinnovember did you just change the topic.....AGAIN? Im done with ya dude. You do not wanna research for yerself. You want me to pull you out of hacky land. Im flattered and all, but I really dont have the time... FOIA video shows the engine, shows the impact damage on the adjacent buildings, photos from the library of congress show all impact damage. Now....Im sorry, but this little dodgefest of yours....with me at least, IS OVER. have a good one
FreedumbFighter28 2 months ago
@FreedumbFighter28 these peoples ignorance infuriates me. To suggest that no died on 9/11 isn't just stupid its extremely insensitive. I hope all the 9/11 truthers are in a building one day that gets hit by a plane and then collapses. Maybe then theyll shut the fuck up
toddyfex 2 months ago
@toddyfex Maybe their true motive is to discredit the truther movement. What other motive could they have? We are the wacky truthers, so discredit all truthers. I credit what the architects and engineers for 911 truth have put forward, because they have logic. I could even believe in the star wars ray hitting the buildings after the planes did due to the anomolies of pitted metal and unburned paper. But no people, CGI? Almost no one believes that, it only discredits all truthers.
bobspez 1 month ago
@bobspez To this day through all of my research I haven't found any holes in the official 9/11 story. Islamic extremist hijacking airliners and crashing them into targets makes perfect sense and really, being a pilot myself, would not be very hard to do.
toddyfex 1 month ago
@toddyfex Yeah but 9 of the 19 terrorists surviving is a tough one, Einstein!
itsanillusion100 1 month ago
@itsanillusion100
so 9 terrorist survived the plane crashing into the building ? then survive the collapse ?
they must eat weetabix for breakfast , lunch and supper !
THCmuzicalmasta 1 month ago
@THCmuzicalmasta Maybe they just worked for the CIA!
itsanillusion100 1 month ago
@itsanillusion100
nah , they didnt even exist to start with , i think the name's used were the name's given to the detonator's of the explosive's packed into the tower's . more than 1 remote detonater's would of had to be used as they would not of been able to hide the fuse wire's between floor level's .
THCmuzicalmasta 1 month ago
@THCmuzicalmasta I agree, they(+planes) never existed to start with but as for detonations, I'm on the Judy Wood trail now as no explosives can't dustify buildings of 1,500,000 tons into dust. I think a few bombs were planted but the technology is a bit more advanced than just bombs these days. Bombs are the 2nd layer of lies to hide the real factors here but hey it's important we keep researching and don't start arguing here. The perps r FUCKED, either here or in hell so justice will be done!!
itsanillusion100 1 month ago
@itsanillusion100 LOL, so the conspiracy is a conspiracy! You know there are facts and real data available surrounding this issue. You won't find it here tho I am afraid.
dnahulvey 1 month ago
@itsanillusion100 Its all like a cartoon huh. The all powerful CIA.
dnahulvey 1 month ago
@toddyfex So,Mr Pilot, flying a jet airliner at 540mph at sea level is a piece of cake, right?
itsanillusion100 1 month ago
@toddyfex I agree the planes hit the towers, and many believe the fires brought down the towers. To me it's like the magic bullet that went through JFK, Connoly, and was "found" in pristine condition. The two towers coming down so quickly in an identical manner never made sense, nor did the third. But it's almost 50 years since the JFK assassinatin and still no satisfying answers for many people. I suspect in 2051 people will still be debating what brought down the towers. Peace.
bobspez 1 month ago
@bobspez how do the buildings falling down in identical manner not make sense? That's how those buildings should have come down. A building of any size isn't going to stay up too long after being hit by a 757.
toddyfex 1 month ago