TateShots: Damien Hirst on Francis Bacon

[hideouschud]

And it is all relative...

[hideouschud]

I think that Bacon is one of the greatest painters of all time...But time is relative...And I think that Bacon is the past... And Damien is the future. The difference is that bacon tried to describe the 20th century the best that he could... And he did a really good job at it... So Hirst tries to do the same to the 21st century... So should we give a whole century to this guy?.. Bacon dug in the trenches of war... Damien dug in the trenches of money... In the end... the greatest artist is right.

[grobbledonk]

Barely one of Hirst's utterances make any sense, let alone stand up with any critical or insightful perceptive rigour. Both as an "artist" & as a man he is boring & dimwitted. Bacon at least was interesting as a man, even if his vision of humanity was debased

[c1magr8]

Hey Hirst, real fucking artist do their own fucking work! This jackass is like Warhole ... he hires people who do his work. A TOTAL FUCKKING FRAUD!!! Shut the fuck up!!! You are nothing but a wealthy leech & nothing fucking more!

[corpsemunger]

@c1magr8 whoah you again...

[Muckydoggy1]

@c1magr8 You spelt Warhol wrong.

[Shanniquitie]

Hirst = money money money.

[Raskit3]

This man is talking s**t about Bacon, I don't care if his art is good or bad, he doesn't understand what he's looking at.

[Whatever3114]

Damien Hirst is definitely influenced by Francis Bacon, the series he did of skulls and shark jaws with withe dots and lines remind me of the Bacon lines in the paintings.

The 'triggers' are a good point too. To say that Damien Hirst is rubbish is in olde English " a load of cobblers me lord" because Hirst is creative. CREATIVITY and EXPERIMENTATION plus some talent helps. Some of Hirts's works the Shark Tanks...are a bit over the top, the For the love of God especially.

[LJD25]

Who cares what Mrs. Damien Saatchi has to say?

A complete creation of art magazines and auction houses.

bacon and Freud are real artists and Hirst dull...

[Scrapandlouie]

Vapid.

[lionstanding]

all of that young, now aging, satchi stable of 'artists' should all get their resumes in order and apply to Goldman Sachs as derivatives consultants and finally realize their true aim/purpose in life......excluding Rachel Whitehead, who made intriguing pieces and whom I will call an Artist.

[kiribula]

@lionstanding You should just stick to Hot Topic Rockabilly

[ryder50]

Poor Bacon. He is defenseless against the mindless blather of this idiot.

[kiribula]

@ryder50 They are both brilliant. What are you on ?

[brinksbury]

Why is he wearing sunglasses when he looks at the Bacon's? I hate when people wear sunglasses like this.  Its disrespectful.

[Garvain66]

Bacon was overated himself ...I don't care for Hirsts work either much...though at least he has a redeeming feature ...a sense of humour!

I have a theory that Contemporary art was invented so as to allow those lacking artistic talent the license to feel better about their lack of talent!

[Garvain66]

Bacon was overated himself ...I don't care for Hirsts work either much...though at least he has a redeeming feature ...a sense of humour!

I have a theory that Contemporary art was invented so as to allow those lacking artistic talent the license to feel better about their lack of talent!

[kiribula]

@Garvain66 Or you just don't have the intellectual/aesthetic capacity to understand it. Bacon was brilliant.

I mean, if all you do is stay in a solely classical mindset, paintingwise, of course you wouldn't understand anything else. You seem to be stuck on technicality in a rigid context ? Ok for some things, stagnant for others, namely more experimental painting but STILL with technical capabilities.

Go comment on Bob Ross paintings

[spd13062]

Hard to fathom the amount of money Hirst has made in his short career. Bacon's work has always blown my mind....Hirst is right up there with Jeff Koons as one of the biggest charlatans the art world has ever produced. He must giggle to himself at the wonder of his "success"

[fremsley001]

Next to the giant Bacon, Hirst is a flaccid fried mushroom that's gone cold at the edge of the plate.

[MsJony1234]

Bacon is amazing, wonder about his letter though... Heirst is a very very successful man in the art business.. so fair play to him, he seems cool enough !

[cretsina]

he doesn't sound to bright. i like how he doesn't take off his shades

[Muskadash]

His paintings are still like bad Bacons!

[Muskadash]

Oooh, blue jeans. That's original.

[winksie]

damien hirst did have good ideas early on and it all relates to his interest of mortallity. but did he truely know anything about mortallity, life and death and its romanticism towards the artist/self. when hirst is dead i dont think his body of work will triumph as bacon's did

[Estragon17]

@winksie

A good point. Having seen a bit of Hirst's work up close I have to say that i think most of it will quickly be forgotten, though when he succeeds at making a piece, which is even rarer than he thinks, it truly can be amazing and I think will exist as an influence for a long time... provided anyone actually sees such pieces again rather than just his more famous stuff. I am thinking specifically of his painting done with dead flies. It is absolutely brutally beautiful.

[winksie]

hirst is an intelligent guy but is also very ignorant, to bacon and the great historical art of the wallace collection. bacons work is very romantic and the works deserve more than just perceptions of nightmare

[emilytodd28]

"....Or something like that", "that spat", im sorry is this someone who is supposed to be an artist. I would even buy a ca off this guy let alone a piece of his "art" work.

[759westcoast]

rickmoonbeam who?

[clampdown7]

Respect to Hirst...

[almanacofsleep]

Lol Hirst's paintings looked like mediroce art school paintings by someone a bit too influenced by Bacon

[dylancash7]

Hirst is great

[RickMoonbeam]

Hirst is just a big name and nothing more. What he says here anyone could say. Why are we listening to him then? Because he's Hirst, a vacuous PR bubble that bursts with very little scrutiny,,,AND he can't paint to save his life.

[planetlennie]

Let me get this straight. Bacon likes Hirst's work and you don't. And to which "critic" are we supposed to give more validity? You or Francis Bacon?

[RickMoonbeam]

Bacon is alleged to have liked some of Hirsts work planetlennie. So do I. I also like eating shellfish. That doesnt make my fishmonger either an artist or a critic.

[soniccage]

Oh shut up

[RickMoonbeam]

Let me spell things out for you then soniccage. The assertion that someone like Bacon "liked" something does not validate it as an exhibit in an art gallery. Francis Bacon also "liked" gambling and getting drunk. Is that to hard to understand?

[nydude6009]

It...uh...makes you think of...uh...the horror...of...how fragile we are or something i guess.

[racsonam]

i love Bacon.

[RichardCorral]

E-G-O

[garethcadwallader]

good iden

[nickbethell]

yeah but look at him 'notandywarhol'... he was even rich enough to buy his own diamond encrusted platinum skull... so probably not a low life, i think i sense some jealousy.

[notandywarhol]

What a brainless twit who never had a good iden in his life. Looks and sounds like a low life.

[door2yourheart]

Hirst employs sycophants to actually manufacture his "art" work "ideas", cos its just so beneath him! Warhol did that over 40 years ago!

Can anybody tell me whether Hirst has ever had a totally original idea?

His only claim, and i hesitate to suggest, is that his work effortlessly exemplifies the shallow, half witted, mediocre artistic output and media imposed guidelines that have infested much of our culture in recent years.

The emperor has no clothes, just wealth! He should be an M.P.!

[chandru1103]

Your opinion implies a certain need for the separation of art and modern culture. Do fashion designers not create a product on a mass scale without being questioned on their integrity? So why should art be any different. Warhol and Hirst are conceptual artists, his concepts seemed original to the people who matter and therefore he became famous. If someone thought your artwork was amazing and offered to pay millions for it you wouldn't refuse, so why should he?

[door2yourheart]

First you suggest that art and modern culture should be separate, right? Then you totally contradict that suggestion! So anyway what you are saying is that art is a commodity, a product for sale. I agree with you, and I also love genuine, ORIGINAL conceptual art. My doubts are that Hirst has stolen those loose guidelines, and aided by profit oriented, art industry grandees has manufactured a shallow, unimaginative body of work purely for profit. Its the way of the world, but is it integrity?

[door2yourheart]

Kinda this, kinda that, lol! What a sorta semi literate kinda manipulated, cash cow this twat actually is!

Slice the moron in half, and label it as "cunt"!

[chandru1103]

There is no such thing as an "original" idea. All artists create simulations of their own environments and that always includes artists of the past.

[door2yourheart]

Spin Paintings

Those Hirst "spin paintings", we were churning those out in the late 60s! We used spinning record decks and poster paint! There were even people who set up shop on seaside piers etc where you could make your own spin paintings! Hirst is a total charlatan, and he has been embraced by charlatans!!

Kinda, sorta, yer know, lol!

[soniccage]

No, he comes from that tradition, you moron

[door2yourheart]

I received your reckless reply as a response to one of several of my comments. Could you please clarify exactly what issue you are attempting to respond to, if that's at all possible!

[door2yourheart]

Fly Piece by Hirst.

Yes many of us know that one fly can multiply its genes a 1000 fold! Introduce a fly to a corpse and it happens! Its how forensic information can be time scaled. We know that, so what is Hirst trying to tell us that we already know? Oh and guess what, the flys can be killed by the light zapper, WOW!

[door2yourheart]

Bacon= true artist

Hirst= corny, unimaginative, acquisitive, predictable,sensationalist. A semi literate product who is manipulated by those with dubious, self serving status, (Goldsmiths and other art industry "gurus"), and who seek financial gain from the collaborative manipulation of their investment oriented, public  pronouncements and promotion of this pretender!

Yes I am cynical, but Hirst takes the big biscuit!

[fredericomorbach]

parecia que Damien Hirst iria produzir um trabalho importante depois da morte do grande francis bacon.

[schrecker21]

bacon is great!  hirst is shit!

[cmoouk13]

exactly, hirst will be forgotten soon after he dies if not before. all he cares about is money and it shows in his god awful work. he's an idiot!

[BARBARO154]

i agree --hirst has shit for brains -bacon groans from his grave @ this boob and his inane commentary

[lionstanding]

@schrecker21 So true....Hirst has never made a decent painting....or anything actually.....

[armyofmeisbliss]

don't see the fad around hirst there.

[zub4ik]

Francis Bacon is great.

[quenchedinlife]

been to this show, absolutely amazing. it even has one of bacon's early paintings on show 'crucifixion 1933'.

[tagzee]

glad i saw this vid i had 2 paintings in the

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