Nigger faggot got what he deserved. All you faggots who are so against the death sentence should fucking go find your own personal serial killer buddy. Fuck off you moralfags.
Gacy most likely had friends that enjoyed the 'fun', like the fag that lived with him and turned state witness, no way this tub of shit buried all those bodies by itself
@astrav25 Far from eye of an eye. What Gacy did was far crueler than the way he was put to death. The death penatly will always fail as a means of justice. It's too gently implemented. Too humane. That's one of the reasons I'm against it. The death penalty fails.
Before he was released the the prison doctors described him as a violent mentally desturbed individual. I think the term sociopath or psychopath was used. This is on record in several books.
just by watching him, i never would have guessed a) that he was evil and b) that he was homosexual. he doesn't appear like either in the typical sense. it's scary how deceptive the outside of a person can be
@SnakeStormTV That's a very good point...He was much loved in his comunity.......Makes you think........Do you REALLY know who lives next door to you? God willing, he is suffering in hell, right now!!!!
RIH you fucking piece of shit. Its a good thong the whereabouts of your grave are unknown and I cant afgord to buy and destroy your paintings. Maybe somewhere, you're getting sodomized and strangled for the rest of eternity.
It makes me so mad, this guy was molested multiple times a child, he was fucked up. This is the kind of shit that it leads to, psychopaths, more child molestors, murderers. I think that every child molester should be either life in jail or death. There is no excuse.
@louiethesyrian Why was the modifier "homo" needed for an insult of a fucking SERIAL KILLER? It's like his perceived gayness overshadows the little detail that he was a torturer and serial murderer of children.
@Scrumdidilyumpchious i would love to study him! i am in school to become a csi/ criminal profiler. idk why they get put to death so quickly when other rapist and murders sit for 30 years before they die.
A good sign for the heartiness of a society are the worsed crimes of they people.
I know its great to have such induviduals, so feign people of this "society" can hide behind gacy for exemple their own perfidy. I bet if all pseudo good people would be sitting in jail than non of these crimes would slowly devolping in disregardance of the fake ass humantrash. 2000 years of jail-history and the crimes getting worse and more worse. RIP orchis Pogo!
@ chopperabby do u even know what this monster did? He tortured little boys and raped them... All were no younger than 6. You have no idea what rage this monster put in us. Im glad this monster is dead.
This makes me incredibly sad. He seems so pathetic, and for some reason, I can't help but feel worse for him than his victims. Their pain ended after he killed them. He had to live on in his miserable state. So yes I am glad he died, because it meant he could neither kill more or have to bare the burden of life. And whoever says he was not human is wrong. All humans are capable of terrible things, and if you think that isn't true, you're just deluding yourself.
@chopperabby lol he clearly showed no remorse or accontability for his crimes; you feel sorry for this peice of shit? I feel more sorry for dahmer than this fucking monster. At least dahmer admitted and accepted full accountability for what he had done from the get go.
This guy actually wanted to get out 2 years after serving time in prison for killing so many young men
@chopperabby He lives in a miserable state? He's enjoying his lifestyle and even wanted to get out of jail to get more of it. All humans might be capable of terrible things, but after they've done those terrible things and their mind and emotion are settled, they'll feel guilty and self-reproach unlike Gacy and the likes of him.
i believe death sentence is the easy way out of life, It affects ones family rather than the actual person who done the crime. what happened to that saying " do the crime, do the time"?.
@HiveDes I don't deny that he was a sociopath, but he was addicted to young boys. He was smart enough to understand the implications of the choices he made, he knew the repercussions. I just wish he had made other choices.
Why is there a debate about religion going on on the posts for this video? Not a complaint, just thought it was an odd thing to spark up thoughts on that subject. You know who this guy was or did you just hear xmas music and start fighting? It's kinda funny. Both sides are idiots when they argue about this junk on a video from the life of a serial killer...seriously. Go to Kirk Cameron's page and duke it out.
My grandparents were distant friends with this fat piece of shit, and my father was only fifteen at the time. The thought of what could very well might have happened scares the shit out of me...
In Cambodia, the attempt to covert this to an atheistic state resulted is a HORRIFYING bloodbath where millions of people were slaughtered in an unthinkable manner. The same sort of HORRIBLE thng they claim that only Christendom is responsible for. Again, see the hypocrisy?
@Trumpetz81 My point is this: in a world that has come about by naturalistic evolution, there is no objective value. Is it worse to kill a human than a monkey? Why? I think Nietzsche saw atheism for the farce it is: once God goes, morality goes too.
Christians don't do the right thing for eternal reward but b/c it's right; it's right because it aligns with God's character & commands. Eternal reward is a benefit God graciously decides to give us. Read C. S. Lewis "The Weight of Glory" on this.
@veritasluxmea22 u raise a valid point, but to be honest i would side with the opposite position you would, who is to say our lives are worth more then that of a monkey or even a fly, we only choose to perceive a humans life as more valuable because we our selves are human, your point of view is subjective, both atheists and religious people are fine in my view as long as they don't try to pressure others into adopting their views, it should be a persons free choice
@veritasluxmea22 for example lets say evolution is 100% correct and humans and monkeys still co-exist a million years from now only chimpanzees have evolved to an intelligence beyond humans would that all of a sudden make a chimpanzee's life more valuable then a humans? more then likely you would say no at that point to you your life would be at least equal if not more important, but to the killer future monkeys that are tooo smart your life would possibly be less than, due to subjective reason
@mmastylez I honestly don't know what to say. You're seriously suggesting that humans are not more valuable than monkeys or a fly? I know you don't believe that: if a you had to save a monkey or a child you would save the latter. If chimpanzees evolved "past" us, that would somehow mean they've gained many mental/moral capacities, including freedom and responsibility. Since naturalistic evolution alone can't do this, I would argue God has given them more valud than they previously had.
@veritasluxmea22 you chose to miss the point of my post completely, I was suggesting that our observations are subjective, and we are not in a position to judge what life is worth more, obviously to me a humans life is the most important, this is due to the fact that I myself am human, my point was if you were a chimpanzee, would you still feel the same way, if you were a chimp and had to save another chimp or a human child,im sure you would pick the chimp, but you're human so you pick the human
@mmastylez Ok, let me as you this. These are legitimate, straightforward questions and I'm interested to hear your answers: 1) Is a human child objectively more valuable than a rock? 2) Is a human child more objectively more valuable than a worm? 3) Why or why not for 1 & 2.
@veritasluxmea22 1) the child has more value to me, 2) see answer 1, 3)as I have previously posted our reasoning is subjective there for a human will always think human life is the most important, asking me if I think a life is more valuable or not or asking you is totally irrelevant and you are still missing my point, the point was not hey what do you think has a more valuable life, creature A or creature B, the point is by what right are we the judges of value to ones life?
@mmastylez Not missing your point, just trying to show you that you may not really believe it. For if you did, you'd have to withhold judgment on the values of others. You wouldn't be able to judge someone's saving their dog from a fire rather than their daughter. That the person making this decision is a human or a Martian makes no difference. IMO, the view you're espousing is required by atheism (it's a reductio really). You're consistent if you believe it, I'm just not sure you really do. :)
@veritasluxmea22 i'm sorry, but i am not an atheist, I am a theist (still do not practice a religion) i'm not saying i would not choose a humans life over another, I am saying there is no greater or lesser lives only opinions on such a categorization, the point is your opinion is subjective to the fact you your self are human, if you were some sort of other creature you would most likely hold a different opinion (human life would be less valuable to your own)
@veritasluxmea22 trying to say no person/animal/creature/thing/alien's life is worth any more or less then an other, just creatures we feel more empathy towards because they show more signs of cognitive thought, (an insect might not have a nervous system and does not feel pain and has a life span of less then 24 hours , a human might kill this insect and not think twice because there is no empathy) but a dog would feel pain and makes it known, so we empathize
@Trumpetz 81 It's false to say atheism adheres to no tenets. Do you believe in no god? That's a tenet. Naturalistic evolution? Tenet. Reductionism to fundamental particles? Tenet. Ockham's razor? Tenet. If your position is "tenet-less" you are literally saying nothing.
@veritasluxmea22 "What possible logic could even use to try to ground morality in a completely naturalistic universe devoid of objective value? Please man, I would LOVE to hear that one."
How can you possibly ask that and keep a straight face? From a common sense standpoint alone, it goes without saying that if you don't enjoy getting punched in the face for no reason, you probably shouldn't do it to others.
Does doing the right thing for the prospect of an eternal reward makes it more moral?
@Trumpetz81 So lets cover Abiogenesis (as you put it),or simply,the origin of life. If evolution is not the answer,and neither is creation,than what do you suggest is? Same question about the origin of the cosmos,indeed! Are you soley aware of a third possibility,that no other person is aware of? Please,enlighten us dullards with your pearls of wisdom,oh wise one! Oh,and while your at it,perhaps using more foul language,and insulting remarks will convince us further of your intelligence! B-)
@mortis13rex The point is that evolution explains the diversity of life on Earth. It does not have anything to do with abiogenesis or cosmology. You sound as if you've been conflating evolution with atheism for a long time now. The two are not mutually dependent on one another. Get a clue.
@Trumpetz81 You're right that people shouldn't conflate evolution and abiogenesis, but they are still highly relevant and inform one another. You can separate them for ease of conversation, but as far as our system of beliefs goes, you must consider them together. That naturalism cannot account for abiogenesis justifies skepticism of that worldview which, in turn, also undermines naturalistic evolution.
@veritasluxmea22 How does it undermine evolution? The origin of life has what to do with a theory serving to explain life's diversity billions of years later? I'm open to what you have to say on this, but simply saying it undermines it isn't going to be enough. Why does it undermine it? Why must they be considered together? No biologist ever considers them together. In fact, the only people I ever encounter who like to lump the two into the same conversation are those with a religious agenda.
@Trumpetz81 I said it undermines *naturalistic* evolution, i.e., a theory of evolution excluding the supernatural by definition. Insofar as arguments support creation out of nothing by a supernatural being, naturalistic evolution fails on the same count. Biologists must bracket these questions for the ease of their discipline, just like psychologists don't consider physics much. Doesn't mean they're separate though; a consistent worldview will explain both disciplines with its own tools.
@veritasluxmea22 How exactly does it fail? Stating something to be so doesn't constitute an argument. Evolution in this context still does not depend on any supernatural explanation. It's adequately explained through natural observation alone. Abiogenesis does not factor into the equation in any way at all, either. It's a field of biological study, sure, but that's where the correlation ends. How something got here does not have to relate to what it does billions of years later.
@Trumpetz81 You're still confusing evolution with naturalistic evolution (NE) -they're not the same thing. Assume that we need to appeal to a supernatural being to explain abiogenesis. NE, then, is omitting an important facet of reality, namely, a Creator that can intervene in the physical world. Remember, NE denies that such a Creator is even possible. Say you believe NE and that God created: contradiction! So you can't believe both if you hope to have a coherent belief system.
@veritasluxmea22 The reason I haven't bothered addressing naturalistic evolution is because you brought it up in an attempt to derail the conversation from evolution by natural selection to naturalistic evolution, which is a stance far easier to refute. Stop being a pretentious schmuck. We both know when people bitch about evolution, they bitch about the idea that we "came from fucking monkeys," as those rednecks like to put it. Like I said, abiogenesis has no place in this discussion.
@Trumpetz81 Don't assume that I'm trying to derail the conversation. My point is that atheists will oftentimes bring up evolution in an attempt to show that God does not exist. But that is a non-sequitur unless you are assuming NE. If you think NE is easily refuted, then there's no reason for you to bring up evolution as an argument against God. If you like NE, then you've gotta have an answer for abiogenesis. Either way, the atheist is left without an answer and is not justified in her atheism.
@veritasluxmea22 I'm more trying to suggest that yes all life is equal, to us using common sense, no, but that is subjective. I'm considering a humans life as most valuable because I myself am human, what would I base that on? most likely intelligence, but what if you based it on sense of smell? or strength? or ability to breath under water? just because a specific characteristic has been chosen does not strengthen or weaken your argument for the value of a creatures life
@veritasluxmea22 in summation (sorry for all the posts i find this an interesting debate) just because a toad learns to talk and starts saying, people are worthless and a toads life is worth the lives of 100 humans, does not make it so, who is the toad to judge in the same way who are we to say our lives are more or less valuable then other lives, also i just felt like pointing out that a rock doesn't have a life (something that has been bugging me from your 3 questions)
@veritasluxmea22 Our experiences must differ drastically as I've yet to encounter a single exchange where an atheist cites evolution as justification for his or her lack of belief. Stop listening to the arguments of irrational idiots who just happen to not believe in god. Those people need to be relegated to the fringes just like the Kent Hovinds and Ken Hams of the world.
Atheism is not requisite to accepting evolution. Stop assuming that. Listen to Ken Miller's stance on the issue.
@Trumpetz81 Citations are easy to come by if that's what you're looking for: see Hitchens and Dawkins. I would agree with what you think of them btw, given what you just said, and I'm happy you agree with me that evolution is no evidence against God. You keep assuming that I'm assuming things. For the fifth (or sixth?) time: naturalistic, that is, unguided evolution is unacceptable to Christians, not evolution on its own (which is a neutral term about guidance by a designer).
@veritasluxmea22 OK, this is getting quite tedious. Who the hell mentioned anything about naturalistic evolution other than you? It wasn't a subject under scrutiny. The only conceivable reason you brought it up is to redirect the discussion, or maybe to revel in the glory of your supposedly intellectual comments.
Naturalistic evolution is almost never the subject of this debate. Evolution by natural selection is. Cease the pseudo-intellectual bullshit. It's far from impressive.
@Trumpetz81 It's obvious you're just an angry person. You've insulted me at least 5 times and I've never insulted you but have tried to have a civil conversation. I'm finishing an MA in philosophy--I think I know how atheist philosophers argue their case. As long as you agree that evolution by natural selection is no evidence against God, then I am happy. I originally brought up naturalistic evolution to show that atheism can't account for morality. Your response was inadequate to say the least.
@veritasluxmea22 I never insulted you. I insulted your arguments. You should know better. I was almost positive you had an undergraduate in philosophy. I wouldn't be surprised if theology was your minor.
Atheism doesn't claim to account for morality. I never said it did. Religion shouldn't make that claim, either. There are plenty of great ethical precepts in the bible, but it's also rife with positively immoral directives. Secular progress has rendered those obsolete in the western world.
@Trumpetz81 Theory defined: A proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. It is still known as "the theory of evolution",is it not? Scientifically,a theory proven becomes a law,it's that simple! There is no "law of evolution",and never will be! Read a book,I suggest a dictionary to begin with!!!
@mortis13rex There's no law of gravity, either. Go ahead and test your faith by trying to disprove that theory as well.
"In the sciences, a scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations."
@Trumpetz81 late night,trumps house..."trummpy,time for bed","aww mom,just a lil longer?","no,Trumpy,and I know how much you love the doggie,but you shouldn't be snuggling with Him that close without your clothes on,and why does He look so frightened?!!","but mom,girls don't like me"...in other words,quit screwin' the pooch here kid,and find a life outside of youtube,and web smut,it'll do you some good! Stay cheerful and positive now,c-ya!
@mortis13rex lol another 40 year old ignoramus runs away. I'm actually up writing a paper, but alright. This is just the reply I expected. Outmatched, backed into a corner, resorting to bullshit speculation and ad hominem attacks.
Idiot. Don't try so hard. You might manage to avoid looking quite as stupid when you lose your next "intellectual" exchange.
@Trumpetz81 The origin of human life,and of the universe is the topic. Explain your point of view,without dodging the question,in plain simple language. That's it,explain where it all begin,from stage one,before anything existed at all. How did it happen?
@mortis13rex This exchange started with evolution. That's where it's going to end. Those topics have nothing to do with evolution. You claimed they do. I called you out on it, and now you're attempting to shift the topic of discussion in an attempt to keep from looking like a fucking idiot.
Get over it. It's only youtube. You'll be alright, chief.
@Trumpetz81 Can you answer the simple question or not? I think you're grasping for straws,which is why you repeatedly avoid the simple question. Just keep swearing,and slinging childish insults,your true nature is shining through for all to see! (that of a know-nothing,illogical,childish fool,who doesn't even know what to believe,but tries to sound intelligent anyway...........it's not working for you,you only look like a moron in front of everyone here.....such an angry,confused little person!
@mortis13rex First of all, it's grasping at straws. I'm not avoiding the question at all. I'm telling you straight up that until you can demonstrate a legitimate obligation on my part to answer it, I don't have to. My world view isn't about belief. It's about knowing, and when knowledge isn't a possibility due to the limits of our technology, it then becomes about humility and accepting one's ignorance.
You religious idiots are already convinced you know everything. Therein lies the difference
@Trumpetz81 Face it,you won't answer,because you don't have an answer,and therefore have proven you know nothing!! You lose! (no surprise,it's what losers do!)
@mortis13rex Are you fucking retarded? I answered it in my last post. You're 40 and feverishly replying to me as if this is some heated debate. So what junior college are you finishing up at?
We're through here. 40 years on this planet and you're still a childish fucking idiot. We have plenty of those as it is. Don't have any kids. Any woman who would actually fuck you would have to be every bit as dumb as you. Your kids will end up just as worthless. Tell everyone at your trailer I said hi.
@Trumpetz81 You answered nothing,because you can't,and now you're running away like frightened child.....ha ha ha.....no surprise,it's what weak,ignorant people do! Run along now junior,it's going to take forever for you to find a girl who is as much a lowlife as you are,and you don't have time to lose!!
@Trumpetz81 What possible logic could even use to try to ground morality in a completely naturalistic universe devoid of objective value? Please man, I would LOVE to hear that one.
Take a look at him here and then look at him during an interview after he was arrested or incarcerated. What happened in his life and within this man to change him to that degree? This is the question we need to ask to keep it from happening again. If possible. God let's hope it's possible. Otherwise well be reduced to nothing but our own revenge killings.
I think I bought a pound of link sausages from this guy back in the day at a Piggly Wiggly or something. Jeez, hope he didn't use one of his special ingredients yech!
I believe that serial killers are born with something wrong. Something just not right with their . But I also believe that they themselves could stop themselves from transforming into monsters.
Why the hell does every single damn video on youtube that I want to watch have a conversation about atheism and creationism underneath it. Atheists always say that Christians are so bad and so indoctrinating and so self-righteous. What the hell are you being except indoctrinating and self-righteous?!
@psychluv One is rooted in blind speculation, the other in reason. One has caused millions of deaths throughout history as a direct result of its tenets. The other has no tenets by which to adhere.
While not all Christians fit the bad and indoctrinating description, a great many of them do. How exactly are atheists running around indoctrinating kids? Please, tell me that. The last time I checked, old men in suits were handing out bibles in the quad at my university. No atheists ever present!
@Trumpetz81 This is the age of the Internet. More kids than ever are on the Web and for every message I've seen about God, I've seen ten from snotty, sarcastic, hateful atheists. So it's just a sneakier, latent form of indoctrination.
"While not all Chrisitans fit the bad and indoctrinating description, a great many of them do." Great. That's all we need. Another idiot operating using stereotypes. You're what I hate about this pitiful world.
@psychluv That stereotype is by and large the huge majority. Any idea why that is? Oh, I don't know. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Christian doctrine explicitly instructs its adherents to proselytize. This is much more than just a stereotype in the context you attempted to relegate it to.
Denigrating secularists for their apparent haughtiness is probably the most common ad hominem in use today. You've done absolutely nothing to support your point of view. Congratulations.
@Trumpetz81 I'm not trying to argue for Christianity. I have better things to do than to fight with a snotty, arrogant, self-absorbed brat who will never listen to what I have to say any way.
If you want to have a mature dialogue where you lose the tone, I'd love to. Otherwise, my original comment was about wanting to watch a video about a serial killer and read people's opinions without having to cipher through a futile argument that is irrelevant.
@Trumpetz81 You completely missed the point of my post. I was pointing out the NUMBER of posts, not the tone of them. For being logical, you really have a way of ignoring pieces of a statement that don't work for you.
@psychluv What tone are you referring to? There's no arrogance or belittlement present in most of what I say. I've long since gotten over the typical "I'm smarter than you" mindset exhibited by the common pseudointellectual atheist idiot. Do I need to start dumbing down my posts and typing at third grade level or what? If you're conflating my word choice with arrogance, that's a total misconstrual, and I suggest you reevaluate your criteria for assessing whether or not a person is arrogant.
@Trumpetz81 Really? You honestly think people say "pseudointellectual," "conflating," or "denigrating" in everyday speech? I know you're smarter than that. You know very well what you come across as, so don't play dumb with me.
And I understand you perfectly fine. You don't need to dumb anything down except your pathological egocentrism. It seeps through pretty obviously.
@psychluv Actually, I know plenty who do. Some people I associate with utilize a broad spectrum of words in everyday discourse. Reducing my diction to the level of some worthless wife beating redneck's isn't something I'm going to be bullied into doing. If the meaning of those words eludes you or anyone else, grab a fucking dictionary.
Yes, you are requesting that I dumb down what I say. I see no valid reason to do this. Stop the mind reading bullshit. You're grasping at straws here.
@Trumpetz81 I am requesting no such thing. Again, I understand perfectly well what you say. I'm in college. I graduated cum laude from high school. I comprehend just fine. I'm just commenting on your self-righteous tone. I think you've done VERY well in confirming my orignal thoughts.
And "wife beating redneck?" Really? Still want to say you don't use stereotypes? How's this one for ya? I'm 20 years old, a college student, gay, AND a Christian. Try that one on for size, fuckbag.
@psychluv “Fuckbag”? You’re a CHRISTIAN FAGGOT (what an oxymoron?) for fucks sake! You take dicks in the ass, pack fudge and swallow cum for fun, and you honestly called someone ELSE a fuckbag? Oh, the irony (lol)! (I have nothing against homos btw, I find their… activities hilarious of course, but no, I don’t hate you.) Sorry Psych, I just HAD to comment on that; forgive me for it. Hey, It’s what Christians (faggots?!?) do, right? Oh wait, you’re a CHRISTIAN FAGGOT, my bad, nevermind LOL.
@psychluv Anyone with confidence in their point of view would spend less time hurling unfounded attacks and more on refuting their opponents point of view.
Oh, excuse me. Proving wrong. Who the fuck uses refuted, right? After all, this country consistently places dead fucking of all first world countries in terms of standardized test scores. May as well cater to the masses and speak like a child. Strong point you have there, chief. Keep it coming.
What's next? Commentary on how I'm somehow pissed off because I made three posts back-to-back? Or maybe I'm a cocky asshole because I know to put hyphens in the preceding phrase. I could have just used consecutive, but who the hell uses that in everyday speech? Surely not us.
@psychluv I also never implied that you were Christian or somehow sympathetic to Christianity.
As far as the number of posts go, I think it's both safe and reasonable to point out that atheism is still considered quite taboo by much of this country, and many people are in positions where they can't publicly admit to their supposedly immoral world view without causing debilitating damage to their lives. That should explain away at least a significant percentage of the people you're referring to.
@psychluv do you not think that atheists spend so much time NOT believing in religion, spend so much time slating a religion that it almost seems like a religion of its own?
Athetism and all of its PHLIOSOPHIES are based on FAITH as well despite the flag of science they like to wave in front of everybody's face. A lot of the THEORIES they claim as fact have NOT been proven; evidence to the contrary is is usually suppressed; and acceptance of these ideas are generally based on the application of PROPAGANDA--the silent manipulation of people's thinking. The same type of INDOCTRINATION they accuse Christendom of. See the hypocrisy?
@StarWoors What the fuck are you talking about? Atheism is based on evidence, which we do have. Religion is based on faith, because there is no evidence of a magical man in the sky.
Fuck this ugly fat fucking faget
TheGetsome92 1 day ago
FUCKING FAT HOMOSEXUAL RAPIST !
CroatianTroll 2 weeks ago
what a surreal interview.
jgwphilly1969 1 month ago
How did he make it all those years in prison without getting killed, he raped and murdered boys for Christ sakes
Jerman81 1 month ago
Nigger faggot got what he deserved. All you faggots who are so against the death sentence should fucking go find your own personal serial killer buddy. Fuck off you moralfags.
Firesolved 1 month ago
Gacy most likely had friends that enjoyed the 'fun', like the fag that lived with him and turned state witness, no way this tub of shit buried all those bodies by itself
grasshopperjunction 2 months ago
@ericjungleboy valid point can't argue with that.
astrav25 2 months ago
killer is dead now. eye for an eye. I can't think otherwise and admit it.
astrav25 3 months ago
@astrav25 Far from eye of an eye. What Gacy did was far crueler than the way he was put to death. The death penatly will always fail as a means of justice. It's too gently implemented. Too humane. That's one of the reasons I'm against it. The death penalty fails.
ericjungleboy 2 months ago
Before he was released the the prison doctors described him as a violent mentally desturbed individual. I think the term sociopath or psychopath was used. This is on record in several books.
spider62able 3 months ago
If that guys cooking...Im fucking eating what im taking!...LOL
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John Wayne gacy
TheLondonFeller 4 months ago
just by watching him, i never would have guessed a) that he was evil and b) that he was homosexual. he doesn't appear like either in the typical sense. it's scary how deceptive the outside of a person can be
SnakeStormTV 4 months ago
@SnakeStormTV That's a very good point...He was much loved in his comunity.......Makes you think........Do you REALLY know who lives next door to you? God willing, he is suffering in hell, right now!!!!
liltink869 1 month ago
Damn gay people
damnedcarrot 4 months ago
RIH you fucking piece of shit. Its a good thong the whereabouts of your grave are unknown and I cant afgord to buy and destroy your paintings. Maybe somewhere, you're getting sodomized and strangled for the rest of eternity.
Lmpy20 5 months ago
These people may be freaks and monsters but killing them isn't the answer. Just put them away for life. I do feel compassion for them.
metalmike83 5 months ago
:First Cook" wow.. geez.. no kiddin... authority figure, cop wannabee assface, we've all seen the type firsthand.
pollyfrazer 5 months ago
now i know why i can't find my pies!
neil22100 6 months ago 3
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PlatHenri 6 months ago
Vintage Gacey! awesome find :)
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It makes me so mad, this guy was molested multiple times a child, he was fucked up. This is the kind of shit that it leads to, psychopaths, more child molestors, murderers. I think that every child molester should be either life in jail or death. There is no excuse.
1992Raiden 6 months ago 2
He was in the joint at this time for molesting a male minor, the homo should've been castrated.
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@louiethesyrian Why was the modifier "homo" needed for an insult of a fucking SERIAL KILLER? It's like his perceived gayness overshadows the little detail that he was a torturer and serial murderer of children.
Not to split sku--hairs or anything...
BNicodemo 6 months ago
@louiethesyrian Don't mame someone unless you kill them immediately....that's not right... cut his throat not his balls...
sweet96635 3 months ago
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@Scrumdidilyumpchious i would love to study him! i am in school to become a csi/ criminal profiler. idk why they get put to death so quickly when other rapist and murders sit for 30 years before they die.
caitlinhazlett 6 months ago
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A good sign for the heartiness of a society are the worsed crimes of they people.
I know its great to have such induviduals, so feign people of this "society" can hide behind gacy for exemple their own perfidy. I bet if all pseudo good people would be sitting in jail than non of these crimes would slowly devolping in disregardance of the fake ass humantrash. 2000 years of jail-history and the crimes getting worse and more worse. RIP orchis Pogo!
Denkverbrecher 7 months ago
@Denkverbrecher uh, yeah, sure. You bet.
dorothyspotts 6 months ago 4
@Denkverbrecher uhhhh what?
wild1033 5 months ago
0:25-0:29 Gacy thought he was going to ask about why he was in prison. Facial expression tells it all.
Eskara0 7 months ago
@Eskara0 Anal Raper!! Good thing he didn't ask...
grindyourmind1 7 months ago
@grindyourmind1
That about sums it up.
Eskara0 7 months ago
Were there any Fava beans or Chianti's in there?
TheAgwoodliffe 7 months ago 2
Yesss it's a gangsta's paradise bitches... What's going on in the kitchen? But I don't know what's cooking..
benniewise2 8 months ago
He reminds me very strongly of L Ron Hubbard. The mannerisms, inflections, and style are just like Ron if you watch an interview with him.
eulerpwnzgauss 8 months ago
no this interview is when he did 18 months of a 10 year sentence for anal rapein a teenage boy
linethesnort1 8 months ago 3
@jwhittle91 i don't think they choose
seymaseymaa 8 months ago
This interview took place before it was known he killed people right?
horsepheus 9 months ago
@horsepheus hes in the kitchen in prison lol
SoWastedMusic 8 months ago
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what a fat piece of faggot shit.
DustinAndNatasha 9 months ago
white scum
fkwk2y 9 months ago
@fkwk2y I don't know, I thought the uniform was pretty clean. It's probably just the film quality making it look like "scum".
ipodcrazy523 9 months ago
@ chopperabby do u even know what this monster did? He tortured little boys and raped them... All were no younger than 6. You have no idea what rage this monster put in us. Im glad this monster is dead.
snakeheadcatcher2 9 months ago
@Scrumdidilyumpchious They had 14 years to study him lol
dimebagisgod32123 9 months ago
Gacy puts the fun in FUNeral.
TheSkuLLcomedyShow 10 months ago
This makes me incredibly sad. He seems so pathetic, and for some reason, I can't help but feel worse for him than his victims. Their pain ended after he killed them. He had to live on in his miserable state. So yes I am glad he died, because it meant he could neither kill more or have to bare the burden of life. And whoever says he was not human is wrong. All humans are capable of terrible things, and if you think that isn't true, you're just deluding yourself.
chopperabby 10 months ago
@chopperabby lol he clearly showed no remorse or accontability for his crimes; you feel sorry for this peice of shit? I feel more sorry for dahmer than this fucking monster. At least dahmer admitted and accepted full accountability for what he had done from the get go.
This guy actually wanted to get out 2 years after serving time in prison for killing so many young men
Fuck Gacy, may your soul never rest in peace
Whiterhin018 9 months ago
@chopperabby He lives in a miserable state? He's enjoying his lifestyle and even wanted to get out of jail to get more of it. All humans might be capable of terrible things, but after they've done those terrible things and their mind and emotion are settled, they'll feel guilty and self-reproach unlike Gacy and the likes of him.
KoreaRwkz 7 months ago
@chopperabby
Completely, 100% agree. Thank you for this comment, finally someone who shares my own thoughts and feelings.
sassygirlXoX 5 months ago
i believe death sentence is the easy way out of life, It affects ones family rather than the actual person who done the crime. what happened to that saying " do the crime, do the time"?.
lwp3021 10 months ago
this is right after he got out of jail. Who knows why they let him out in the first place...
CaptainOmarful 10 months ago
KISS MY ASS,, cant deny he went out on a high
JTazz44 10 months ago
@Scrumdidilyumpchious STUDY HIM?!?!?! The "man" was nothing more than a monster.
caligal2010 10 months ago
@Scrumdidilyumpchious Gosh!! wat is there to study from a cold blooded killer!!??
tanman77au 11 months ago
i would have loved to have been there when they injected the fat fuck just to hear his last words kiss my ass,no mother fucker you kiss mine
singinsmiley1 11 months ago
Now im hungry..
knowpassword 11 months ago
Just an other guy from the billions who give their life away to addictions. It's sad. We are our choices.
seekyefirst 11 months ago
@seekyefirst It was more that just an addiction.
The man was a sociopath.
HiveDes 11 months ago
@HiveDes I don't deny that he was a sociopath, but he was addicted to young boys. He was smart enough to understand the implications of the choices he made, he knew the repercussions. I just wish he had made other choices.
seekyefirst 11 months ago
WHAT A PIG. AND HE LOOK SO NORMAL.
LIKE ALL AMERICAN BOY. UNREAL.
antofagasta1961 11 months ago
FUCK THIS FOO. TAKE THIS SHIT OFF. I'LL CRACK THIS EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN. WEAK MINDED BITCH. FUCK YOU GACY I'LL SEE YOU IN HELL YOU PIECE OF SHIT.
iMFuckingCheeto 11 months ago
@iMFuckingCheeto He's dead dude lol.
lasoogneypubes 11 months ago
@lasoogneypubes i'll be dead too and i'll see his punk ass in hell. =]
iMFuckingCheeto 11 months ago
Its weird to think that when this video was made he was still killing boys... eirie
Constar2113 1 year ago
At least this monster is dead now-thank god!
Jorge4402 1 year ago
Gacy is only 27 here? He easily looks at least 40.
maxpowers518 1 year ago
Why is there a debate about religion going on on the posts for this video? Not a complaint, just thought it was an odd thing to spark up thoughts on that subject. You know who this guy was or did you just hear xmas music and start fighting? It's kinda funny. Both sides are idiots when they argue about this junk on a video from the life of a serial killer...seriously. Go to Kirk Cameron's page and duke it out.
IAmTheEvilMonkey 1 year ago
SICK BASTARD
DanteCherryShake 1 year ago
My grandparents were distant friends with this fat piece of shit, and my father was only fifteen at the time. The thought of what could very well might have happened scares the shit out of me...
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zigifrojd 1 year ago
@psychluv
In Cambodia, the attempt to covert this to an atheistic state resulted is a HORRIFYING bloodbath where millions of people were slaughtered in an unthinkable manner. The same sort of HORRIBLE thng they claim that only Christendom is responsible for. Again, see the hypocrisy?
StarWoors 1 year ago
Gibblets gravy huh?
jduplechin 1 year ago
@jduplechin Giblets are the turkey inners (heart, liver) used to add flavor to the gravy.
manuecat 1 year ago
john wayne gacy jr. had a large blood clot in his brain
CrimsonEmpire 1 year ago
@CrimsonEmpire as a kid.. but he got treated for it.. this is no way explain anything
ThAWaNKr 1 year ago
..i hope this asshole is cooking cookies and hot chocolate for demons in hell.
Groomboy47 1 year ago
@Groomboy47 He most likely is. He showed no remorse for his actions even up till his execution. In fact, his last words were '' kiss my ass''.
ParanoidBerserker 1 year ago
Partial list of diabolical Frauds, presented by Satanists posing as scientists to prmote the ficticious "Missing Link":
1913-53 Piltdown Man HOAX, Diabolical Manufactured Planted Evidence
Nebraska Man, Discarded Pigs Tooth
Peking Man, Conglomeration of Co-Mingled Fossils
Lucy, Manipulated Fossil Using Plaster
Orce Man, 4 Month Old Donkey Bone
2009 Ida, Grossly Unsupportable Classification
2010 Sebida, equivelant of a deceased PetsMart Gerbil
Evolution = Evil Illusion
waketheoblivious 1 year ago
John Wayen Gacy 1942 - 1994
MrDeCorey 1 year ago
It's crazy how harmless and likable he seems in this interview, but he became such a brutal murderer.
DaejeonGangster 1 year ago
@DaejeonGangster I think that's the most scary part about these people, they all look and seem so benign and average.
ScoobyCristi 1 year ago
What year was this interview shot?..
mooneepondskid 1 year ago
@mooneepondskid 1969
solsisod 1 year ago
Just goes to show you how sociopaths can exist right under your nose, and how easily they fit in society.
twodoortwo 1 year ago
@twodoortwo he was psychopath not sociopath
mmastylez 1 year ago
Trumpetz81 vs psychluv
psychluv wins
MrKoP112 1 year ago
Ted Bundy and John Gacy are well known serial killers out there.
Gencturk92 1 year ago
Tyson could beat him.
hawkman350 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 My point is this: in a world that has come about by naturalistic evolution, there is no objective value. Is it worse to kill a human than a monkey? Why? I think Nietzsche saw atheism for the farce it is: once God goes, morality goes too.
Christians don't do the right thing for eternal reward but b/c it's right; it's right because it aligns with God's character & commands. Eternal reward is a benefit God graciously decides to give us. Read C. S. Lewis "The Weight of Glory" on this.
veritasluxmea22 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 u raise a valid point, but to be honest i would side with the opposite position you would, who is to say our lives are worth more then that of a monkey or even a fly, we only choose to perceive a humans life as more valuable because we our selves are human, your point of view is subjective, both atheists and religious people are fine in my view as long as they don't try to pressure others into adopting their views, it should be a persons free choice
mmastylez 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 for example lets say evolution is 100% correct and humans and monkeys still co-exist a million years from now only chimpanzees have evolved to an intelligence beyond humans would that all of a sudden make a chimpanzee's life more valuable then a humans? more then likely you would say no at that point to you your life would be at least equal if not more important, but to the killer future monkeys that are tooo smart your life would possibly be less than, due to subjective reason
mmastylez 1 year ago
@mmastylez I honestly don't know what to say. You're seriously suggesting that humans are not more valuable than monkeys or a fly? I know you don't believe that: if a you had to save a monkey or a child you would save the latter. If chimpanzees evolved "past" us, that would somehow mean they've gained many mental/moral capacities, including freedom and responsibility. Since naturalistic evolution alone can't do this, I would argue God has given them more valud than they previously had.
veritasluxmea22 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 you chose to miss the point of my post completely, I was suggesting that our observations are subjective, and we are not in a position to judge what life is worth more, obviously to me a humans life is the most important, this is due to the fact that I myself am human, my point was if you were a chimpanzee, would you still feel the same way, if you were a chimp and had to save another chimp or a human child,im sure you would pick the chimp, but you're human so you pick the human
mmastylez 1 year ago
@mmastylez Ok, let me as you this. These are legitimate, straightforward questions and I'm interested to hear your answers: 1) Is a human child objectively more valuable than a rock? 2) Is a human child more objectively more valuable than a worm? 3) Why or why not for 1 & 2.
veritasluxmea22 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 1) the child has more value to me, 2) see answer 1, 3)as I have previously posted our reasoning is subjective there for a human will always think human life is the most important, asking me if I think a life is more valuable or not or asking you is totally irrelevant and you are still missing my point, the point was not hey what do you think has a more valuable life, creature A or creature B, the point is by what right are we the judges of value to ones life?
mmastylez 1 year ago
@mmastylez Not missing your point, just trying to show you that you may not really believe it. For if you did, you'd have to withhold judgment on the values of others. You wouldn't be able to judge someone's saving their dog from a fire rather than their daughter. That the person making this decision is a human or a Martian makes no difference. IMO, the view you're espousing is required by atheism (it's a reductio really). You're consistent if you believe it, I'm just not sure you really do. :)
veritasluxmea22 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 i'm sorry, but i am not an atheist, I am a theist (still do not practice a religion) i'm not saying i would not choose a humans life over another, I am saying there is no greater or lesser lives only opinions on such a categorization, the point is your opinion is subjective to the fact you your self are human, if you were some sort of other creature you would most likely hold a different opinion (human life would be less valuable to your own)
mmastylez 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 trying to say no person/animal/creature/thing/alien's life is worth any more or less then an other, just creatures we feel more empathy towards because they show more signs of cognitive thought, (an insect might not have a nervous system and does not feel pain and has a life span of less then 24 hours , a human might kill this insect and not think twice because there is no empathy) but a dog would feel pain and makes it known, so we empathize
mmastylez 1 year ago
he seems so nice
ThisOneRocks 1 year ago
@Trumpetz 81 It's false to say atheism adheres to no tenets. Do you believe in no god? That's a tenet. Naturalistic evolution? Tenet. Reductionism to fundamental particles? Tenet. Ockham's razor? Tenet. If your position is "tenet-less" you are literally saying nothing.
veritasluxmea22 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 "What possible logic could even use to try to ground morality in a completely naturalistic universe devoid of objective value? Please man, I would LOVE to hear that one."
How can you possibly ask that and keep a straight face? From a common sense standpoint alone, it goes without saying that if you don't enjoy getting punched in the face for no reason, you probably shouldn't do it to others.
Does doing the right thing for the prospect of an eternal reward makes it more moral?
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 So lets cover Abiogenesis (as you put it),or simply,the origin of life. If evolution is not the answer,and neither is creation,than what do you suggest is? Same question about the origin of the cosmos,indeed! Are you soley aware of a third possibility,that no other person is aware of? Please,enlighten us dullards with your pearls of wisdom,oh wise one! Oh,and while your at it,perhaps using more foul language,and insulting remarks will convince us further of your intelligence! B-)
mortis13rex 1 year ago
@mortis13rex The point is that evolution explains the diversity of life on Earth. It does not have anything to do with abiogenesis or cosmology. You sound as if you've been conflating evolution with atheism for a long time now. The two are not mutually dependent on one another. Get a clue.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 You're right that people shouldn't conflate evolution and abiogenesis, but they are still highly relevant and inform one another. You can separate them for ease of conversation, but as far as our system of beliefs goes, you must consider them together. That naturalism cannot account for abiogenesis justifies skepticism of that worldview which, in turn, also undermines naturalistic evolution.
veritasluxmea22 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 How does it undermine evolution? The origin of life has what to do with a theory serving to explain life's diversity billions of years later? I'm open to what you have to say on this, but simply saying it undermines it isn't going to be enough. Why does it undermine it? Why must they be considered together? No biologist ever considers them together. In fact, the only people I ever encounter who like to lump the two into the same conversation are those with a religious agenda.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 I said it undermines *naturalistic* evolution, i.e., a theory of evolution excluding the supernatural by definition. Insofar as arguments support creation out of nothing by a supernatural being, naturalistic evolution fails on the same count. Biologists must bracket these questions for the ease of their discipline, just like psychologists don't consider physics much. Doesn't mean they're separate though; a consistent worldview will explain both disciplines with its own tools.
veritasluxmea22 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 How exactly does it fail? Stating something to be so doesn't constitute an argument. Evolution in this context still does not depend on any supernatural explanation. It's adequately explained through natural observation alone. Abiogenesis does not factor into the equation in any way at all, either. It's a field of biological study, sure, but that's where the correlation ends. How something got here does not have to relate to what it does billions of years later.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 You're still confusing evolution with naturalistic evolution (NE) -they're not the same thing. Assume that we need to appeal to a supernatural being to explain abiogenesis. NE, then, is omitting an important facet of reality, namely, a Creator that can intervene in the physical world. Remember, NE denies that such a Creator is even possible. Say you believe NE and that God created: contradiction! So you can't believe both if you hope to have a coherent belief system.
veritasluxmea22 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 The reason I haven't bothered addressing naturalistic evolution is because you brought it up in an attempt to derail the conversation from evolution by natural selection to naturalistic evolution, which is a stance far easier to refute. Stop being a pretentious schmuck. We both know when people bitch about evolution, they bitch about the idea that we "came from fucking monkeys," as those rednecks like to put it. Like I said, abiogenesis has no place in this discussion.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 Don't assume that I'm trying to derail the conversation. My point is that atheists will oftentimes bring up evolution in an attempt to show that God does not exist. But that is a non-sequitur unless you are assuming NE. If you think NE is easily refuted, then there's no reason for you to bring up evolution as an argument against God. If you like NE, then you've gotta have an answer for abiogenesis. Either way, the atheist is left without an answer and is not justified in her atheism.
veritasluxmea22 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 I'm more trying to suggest that yes all life is equal, to us using common sense, no, but that is subjective. I'm considering a humans life as most valuable because I myself am human, what would I base that on? most likely intelligence, but what if you based it on sense of smell? or strength? or ability to breath under water? just because a specific characteristic has been chosen does not strengthen or weaken your argument for the value of a creatures life
mmastylez 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 in summation (sorry for all the posts i find this an interesting debate) just because a toad learns to talk and starts saying, people are worthless and a toads life is worth the lives of 100 humans, does not make it so, who is the toad to judge in the same way who are we to say our lives are more or less valuable then other lives, also i just felt like pointing out that a rock doesn't have a life (something that has been bugging me from your 3 questions)
mmastylez 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 Our experiences must differ drastically as I've yet to encounter a single exchange where an atheist cites evolution as justification for his or her lack of belief. Stop listening to the arguments of irrational idiots who just happen to not believe in god. Those people need to be relegated to the fringes just like the Kent Hovinds and Ken Hams of the world.
Atheism is not requisite to accepting evolution. Stop assuming that. Listen to Ken Miller's stance on the issue.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 Citations are easy to come by if that's what you're looking for: see Hitchens and Dawkins. I would agree with what you think of them btw, given what you just said, and I'm happy you agree with me that evolution is no evidence against God. You keep assuming that I'm assuming things. For the fifth (or sixth?) time: naturalistic, that is, unguided evolution is unacceptable to Christians, not evolution on its own (which is a neutral term about guidance by a designer).
veritasluxmea22 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 OK, this is getting quite tedious. Who the hell mentioned anything about naturalistic evolution other than you? It wasn't a subject under scrutiny. The only conceivable reason you brought it up is to redirect the discussion, or maybe to revel in the glory of your supposedly intellectual comments.
Naturalistic evolution is almost never the subject of this debate. Evolution by natural selection is. Cease the pseudo-intellectual bullshit. It's far from impressive.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 It's obvious you're just an angry person. You've insulted me at least 5 times and I've never insulted you but have tried to have a civil conversation. I'm finishing an MA in philosophy--I think I know how atheist philosophers argue their case. As long as you agree that evolution by natural selection is no evidence against God, then I am happy. I originally brought up naturalistic evolution to show that atheism can't account for morality. Your response was inadequate to say the least.
veritasluxmea22 1 year ago
@veritasluxmea22 I never insulted you. I insulted your arguments. You should know better. I was almost positive you had an undergraduate in philosophy. I wouldn't be surprised if theology was your minor.
Atheism doesn't claim to account for morality. I never said it did. Religion shouldn't make that claim, either. There are plenty of great ethical precepts in the bible, but it's also rife with positively immoral directives. Secular progress has rendered those obsolete in the western world.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 Theory defined: A proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. It is still known as "the theory of evolution",is it not? Scientifically,a theory proven becomes a law,it's that simple! There is no "law of evolution",and never will be! Read a book,I suggest a dictionary to begin with!!!
mortis13rex 1 year ago
@mortis13rex There's no law of gravity, either. Go ahead and test your faith by trying to disprove that theory as well.
"In the sciences, a scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations."
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 late night,trumps house..."trummpy,time for bed","aww mom,just a lil longer?","no,Trumpy,and I know how much you love the doggie,but you shouldn't be snuggling with Him that close without your clothes on,and why does He look so frightened?!!","but mom,girls don't like me"...in other words,quit screwin' the pooch here kid,and find a life outside of youtube,and web smut,it'll do you some good! Stay cheerful and positive now,c-ya!
mortis13rex 1 year ago
@mortis13rex lol another 40 year old ignoramus runs away. I'm actually up writing a paper, but alright. This is just the reply I expected. Outmatched, backed into a corner, resorting to bullshit speculation and ad hominem attacks.
Idiot. Don't try so hard. You might manage to avoid looking quite as stupid when you lose your next "intellectual" exchange.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 The origin of human life,and of the universe is the topic. Explain your point of view,without dodging the question,in plain simple language. That's it,explain where it all begin,from stage one,before anything existed at all. How did it happen?
mortis13rex 1 year ago
@mortis13rex This exchange started with evolution. That's where it's going to end. Those topics have nothing to do with evolution. You claimed they do. I called you out on it, and now you're attempting to shift the topic of discussion in an attempt to keep from looking like a fucking idiot.
Get over it. It's only youtube. You'll be alright, chief.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 Can you answer the simple question or not? I think you're grasping for straws,which is why you repeatedly avoid the simple question. Just keep swearing,and slinging childish insults,your true nature is shining through for all to see! (that of a know-nothing,illogical,childish fool,who doesn't even know what to believe,but tries to sound intelligent anyway...........it's not working for you,you only look like a moron in front of everyone here.....such an angry,confused little person!
mortis13rex 1 year ago
@mortis13rex First of all, it's grasping at straws. I'm not avoiding the question at all. I'm telling you straight up that until you can demonstrate a legitimate obligation on my part to answer it, I don't have to. My world view isn't about belief. It's about knowing, and when knowledge isn't a possibility due to the limits of our technology, it then becomes about humility and accepting one's ignorance.
You religious idiots are already convinced you know everything. Therein lies the difference
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 Face it,you won't answer,because you don't have an answer,and therefore have proven you know nothing!! You lose! (no surprise,it's what losers do!)
mortis13rex 1 year ago
@mortis13rex Are you fucking retarded? I answered it in my last post. You're 40 and feverishly replying to me as if this is some heated debate. So what junior college are you finishing up at?
We're through here. 40 years on this planet and you're still a childish fucking idiot. We have plenty of those as it is. Don't have any kids. Any woman who would actually fuck you would have to be every bit as dumb as you. Your kids will end up just as worthless. Tell everyone at your trailer I said hi.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 You answered nothing,because you can't,and now you're running away like frightened child.....ha ha ha.....no surprise,it's what weak,ignorant people do! Run along now junior,it's going to take forever for you to find a girl who is as much a lowlife as you are,and you don't have time to lose!!
mortis13rex 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 What possible logic could even use to try to ground morality in a completely naturalistic universe devoid of objective value? Please man, I would LOVE to hear that one.
veritasluxmea22 1 year ago
GAY-C
infamousrage97 1 year ago
Take a look at him here and then look at him during an interview after he was arrested or incarcerated. What happened in his life and within this man to change him to that degree? This is the question we need to ask to keep it from happening again. If possible. God let's hope it's possible. Otherwise well be reduced to nothing but our own revenge killings.
unholyimage 1 year ago
I think I bought a pound of link sausages from this guy back in the day at a Piggly Wiggly or something. Jeez, hope he didn't use one of his special ingredients yech!
unholyimage 1 year ago
This was all before the murder spree.
Jesterswords 1 year ago
yes it is.i neither defend or condemn him,but am mostly confounded.he could be anyone on the street.
tomloft2000 1 year ago
How totally normal does he seem? That's the worst part.
smedley 1 year ago
I believe that serial killers are born with something wrong. Something just not right with their . But I also believe that they themselves could stop themselves from transforming into monsters.
dustinsgrl10 1 year ago 12
@dustinsgrl10 exactly. we all have a dark side but most of us know not to act upon it and control it. serials killers choose not to.
jwhittle91 1 year ago 12
@jwhittle91 jwhittle, are you thinking about molesting young boys? I hope not.
JGD1985 5 months ago
@jwhittle91
To say they choose it's like saying gays choose to be gay, suicidal people choose to kill themselves, etc...
Sometimes some people just can't stop these feelings, you can even see it on their brain x ray.
SliderJunkie 4 months ago
@SliderJunkie So that excuses it?! Thats why they are put down(executed) like a rabid animal.
mrfilmnoir68 2 months ago
@dustinsgrl10 tru, its called suicide
munozkd 1 year ago
Why the hell does every single damn video on youtube that I want to watch have a conversation about atheism and creationism underneath it. Atheists always say that Christians are so bad and so indoctrinating and so self-righteous. What the hell are you being except indoctrinating and self-righteous?!
psychluv 1 year ago 16
@psychluv Remember, it's always the squeaky, kicking and screawming, obnoxious, loud mouth, disrespectful wheel that gets the grease.
JuicyDBASE 1 year ago
@psychluv One is rooted in blind speculation, the other in reason. One has caused millions of deaths throughout history as a direct result of its tenets. The other has no tenets by which to adhere.
While not all Christians fit the bad and indoctrinating description, a great many of them do. How exactly are atheists running around indoctrinating kids? Please, tell me that. The last time I checked, old men in suits were handing out bibles in the quad at my university. No atheists ever present!
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 This is the age of the Internet. More kids than ever are on the Web and for every message I've seen about God, I've seen ten from snotty, sarcastic, hateful atheists. So it's just a sneakier, latent form of indoctrination.
"While not all Chrisitans fit the bad and indoctrinating description, a great many of them do." Great. That's all we need. Another idiot operating using stereotypes. You're what I hate about this pitiful world.
psychluv 1 year ago
@psychluv That stereotype is by and large the huge majority. Any idea why that is? Oh, I don't know. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Christian doctrine explicitly instructs its adherents to proselytize. This is much more than just a stereotype in the context you attempted to relegate it to.
Denigrating secularists for their apparent haughtiness is probably the most common ad hominem in use today. You've done absolutely nothing to support your point of view. Congratulations.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 I'm not trying to argue for Christianity. I have better things to do than to fight with a snotty, arrogant, self-absorbed brat who will never listen to what I have to say any way.
If you want to have a mature dialogue where you lose the tone, I'd love to. Otherwise, my original comment was about wanting to watch a video about a serial killer and read people's opinions without having to cipher through a futile argument that is irrelevant.
psychluv 1 year ago
@psychluv And no, being "snotty" in support of your world view is not a form of indoctrination. Grab a dictionary.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 You completely missed the point of my post. I was pointing out the NUMBER of posts, not the tone of them. For being logical, you really have a way of ignoring pieces of a statement that don't work for you.
psychluv 1 year ago
@psychluv What tone are you referring to? There's no arrogance or belittlement present in most of what I say. I've long since gotten over the typical "I'm smarter than you" mindset exhibited by the common pseudointellectual atheist idiot. Do I need to start dumbing down my posts and typing at third grade level or what? If you're conflating my word choice with arrogance, that's a total misconstrual, and I suggest you reevaluate your criteria for assessing whether or not a person is arrogant.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 Really? You honestly think people say "pseudointellectual," "conflating," or "denigrating" in everyday speech? I know you're smarter than that. You know very well what you come across as, so don't play dumb with me.
And I understand you perfectly fine. You don't need to dumb anything down except your pathological egocentrism. It seeps through pretty obviously.
psychluv 1 year ago
@psychluv Actually, I know plenty who do. Some people I associate with utilize a broad spectrum of words in everyday discourse. Reducing my diction to the level of some worthless wife beating redneck's isn't something I'm going to be bullied into doing. If the meaning of those words eludes you or anyone else, grab a fucking dictionary.
Yes, you are requesting that I dumb down what I say. I see no valid reason to do this. Stop the mind reading bullshit. You're grasping at straws here.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 I am requesting no such thing. Again, I understand perfectly well what you say. I'm in college. I graduated cum laude from high school. I comprehend just fine. I'm just commenting on your self-righteous tone. I think you've done VERY well in confirming my orignal thoughts.
And "wife beating redneck?" Really? Still want to say you don't use stereotypes? How's this one for ya? I'm 20 years old, a college student, gay, AND a Christian. Try that one on for size, fuckbag.
psychluv 1 year ago
@psychluv “Fuckbag”? You’re a CHRISTIAN FAGGOT (what an oxymoron?) for fucks sake! You take dicks in the ass, pack fudge and swallow cum for fun, and you honestly called someone ELSE a fuckbag? Oh, the irony (lol)! (I have nothing against homos btw, I find their… activities hilarious of course, but no, I don’t hate you.) Sorry Psych, I just HAD to comment on that; forgive me for it. Hey, It’s what Christians (faggots?!?) do, right? Oh wait, you’re a CHRISTIAN FAGGOT, my bad, nevermind LOL.
revan107 3 months ago
@psychluv Anyone with confidence in their point of view would spend less time hurling unfounded attacks and more on refuting their opponents point of view.
Oh, excuse me. Proving wrong. Who the fuck uses refuted, right? After all, this country consistently places dead fucking of all first world countries in terms of standardized test scores. May as well cater to the masses and speak like a child. Strong point you have there, chief. Keep it coming.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 Oops. Dead fucking last*
What's next? Commentary on how I'm somehow pissed off because I made three posts back-to-back? Or maybe I'm a cocky asshole because I know to put hyphens in the preceding phrase. I could have just used consecutive, but who the hell uses that in everyday speech? Surely not us.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@Trumpetz81 Wow. You're a headcase. I have a very important English paper to write and no more time to argue with a lunatic like you.
I'll pray that you come off your high horse and that you never take a job in which you have to deal with people. You would suck at it.
psychluv 1 year ago
@psychluv I also never implied that you were Christian or somehow sympathetic to Christianity.
As far as the number of posts go, I think it's both safe and reasonable to point out that atheism is still considered quite taboo by much of this country, and many people are in positions where they can't publicly admit to their supposedly immoral world view without causing debilitating damage to their lives. That should explain away at least a significant percentage of the people you're referring to.
Trumpetz81 1 year ago
@psychluv do you not think that atheists spend so much time NOT believing in religion, spend so much time slating a religion that it almost seems like a religion of its own?
666lonny666 1 year ago
@666lonny666 I know, I know, atheists should keep their mouth shut because only religious people have the right to express their opinion.
tstruss912 1 year ago
@tstruss912 No they don't asshole.
glassessn 1 year ago
@glassessn Hello troll, come here so I can shove a pencil up your ass.
tstruss912 1 year ago
@tstruss912 lol.
glassessn 1 year ago
@tstruss912 hahahahaha only an american could come up with something like that, absolutely fucking priceless
OzMafia 1 year ago
@psychluv besides being indoctrinating and self-righteous?. hmm let me think
oh yea they cause genocides too! :D
DREwestcoast 1 year ago
@psychluv wholeheartedly agree. i see far more atheists evangelizing these days than christians.
Britslovesocialism 1 year ago
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StarWoors 1 year ago
@psychluv
Athetism and all of its PHLIOSOPHIES are based on FAITH as well despite the flag of science they like to wave in front of everybody's face. A lot of the THEORIES they claim as fact have NOT been proven; evidence to the contrary is is usually suppressed; and acceptance of these ideas are generally based on the application of PROPAGANDA--the silent manipulation of people's thinking. The same type of INDOCTRINATION they accuse Christendom of. See the hypocrisy?
StarWoors 1 year ago
@StarWoors What the fuck are you talking about? Atheism is based on evidence, which we do have. Religion is based on faith, because there is no evidence of a magical man in the sky.