In the Stargate SG1 episode of the same name, the Aschen - A technologically advanced " benevolent dictator " humanoid alien species - had similar designs on Jupiter.
I loved the ending but i for me it wasn't a happy ending, more like a frustrating one. What happened, basically was that a superior race came and took 1 planet and 1 of ther natural satelites from us and then said all the planets of the solar system belong to us except Europa...can we destroy the new Jupiter sun than? It's kinda like Avatar except we were the creators invaded and we had no chance to fight back.
the problem wit having too suns .. is .. dat ... it would b a GRAVITATIONAL . battle bewteen too powered suns
and the fact that JUPITER IS .. a new sun . would make it much more STRONGER .. but .. the solar system would b thrown out of orbit . over THE GRAVITATIONAL pull FIGHT between to stars
jupiter also would b about 10 times BRIGHTER.. and STRONGER .. with solar winds dat would prolly brush off a good chunk of the earth and other planets atmostphere ..
@akgonen60 You are wrong. I could really write long about why but I will just leave you with a simple bit of information and leave you to figure out why you failed massively through that.
Gravity depends on mass, not density, the "aliens" in 2010 changed the density of Jupiter, not it's mass.
@NATIK001 - This is based on the idea that if Jupiter was denser, the core w / " heat up " & the solar system would have a 2nd sun. It wouldn't harm Earth in terms of energy output or gravitational pull, although the light from " the new Sun " ( Called " Lucifer " in Clarke's novelization ) would mean that ground based & satellite - based astronomy w / be a thing of the past, IF this scenario were to take place.
@lolaroflmao the computer is self inteligent, the monolit is some form of portal, once active, if u pay atention in the 1 one, 2001, the monkeys break a computer that was teleported via monolit to that place, no one took, the monolit took it. is part of the matter. i think, yes , there is life, there is jungle and every thing.
this is a sequel that needed to be made. it truly shows the purpose of the monoliths, and that is to begin life and give intellegence to worthy creatures. it kinda makes your head spin
@NismoTyler, imagine if Obama looked out the White House window and Hu Jintao or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad looked out their government buildings and saw SOMETHING incredible? I don't if it would be peace on Earth outright, but wouldn't it be interesting if something in 2011 happened...?
@NismoTyler, imagine if Obama looked out the White House window and Hu Jintao or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad looked out their government buildings and saw SOMETHING incredible? I don't if it would be peace on Earth outright, but wouldn't it be interesting if something in 2011 happened...?
@NismoTyler, I mean, think about if Obama looked out the White House and Hu Jintao or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad looked out their government buildings and saw SOMETHING akin to this? I don't know if there would be on Earth out right, but wouldn't it be nice if we had something to unite us...?
@NismoTyler, you are right! The way I see it now, in a hundred years, we are either at a Level 1 civilization and we are on our way to 2001 level or we are toast. And at the rate things are going, who knows? Right now we are at a 0.8 or 0.9 society and if we can continue, we'll get to where we need to be. But at the rate things are going, I don't think any sense of humor will unite us. We need a scene like this to unite us! Wouldn't be interesting if we had something like this happen...?
@NismoTyler, you are right! The way I see it now, in a hundred years, we are either at a Level 1 civilization and we are on our way to 2001 level or we are toast. And at the rate things are going, who knows? Right now we are at a 0.8 or 0.9 society and if we can continue, we'll get to where we need to be. But at the rate things are going, I don't think any sense of humor will unite us. We need a scene like this to unite us! Wouldn't be interesting if we had something like this happen...?
It's amazing how cynical I have become since first seeing this film when it was released. Now, I watch it with a nagging feeling that some people would interpret this sequel as a religious themed film more than the original. Kubrick was not a religious person at all and even though the first film could have been interpreted in a religious way, somehow I feel that the Hollywood system stained the sequel more than it did the original.
Too bad that when the Soviet Union fell and the Berlin wall fell the "Fear" wasnt over.Too many people have a vested interest in keepng people fearful and ignorant. Instead of moving towards peace and unity,the controllers of this planet gave us a new enemy---The "Terrorists" . Very sad. The human race has so much potential---but only if we work together Unfortunately, there are people who WANT to keep us divided and at war with each other,because it enriches them and allows them control.
I also find it absurd people are so fearful over a few terrorists. Most of them are poor, have very little influence over anything and are practically all bark and no bite. Media have given them far too much coverage and blown them out of proportion.
Let's see here: Which is the worse problem, the global economic crisis or a few terrorists? Global warming or a few terrorists? The economic trouble is a far more damaging to the ordinary people.
@McLarenMercedes I do agree that the economy is more important that "a few terrorist". But the reason there are so few right now is because we killed or captured so many. Besides, our economy took an auful big hit because of a "few" terrorist running into two very epensive buildings.
Here we are, 2010 as we speak. We haven't even returned to the Moon, not to mention setting up a base there or even starting work on an expedition to mars. The whole world would participate in that miracle, but nooooooo. Warrack O'bummer stops it dead at start of project Constellation. Mars has 24h day, 38% Earth's gravity, and an atmosphere of mostly CO2. Of course it will take hundreds or thousand of years to adapt this planet for our colonization, but WTF are we going to start???
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@RepentNowHellsReal Great series. Thanks. We have hope faith & LIfe in Jesus Christ. We are saved through the blood of Jesus when he laid his life down for us and died for us on the cross. Jesus was G-d in the form of man. He died for our sins. If we ask forgivness for our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins. We jast have to admit to him in repenatnce we are a sinner and invite him into our heart!
@CloudRiviera Europea one of Jupiters moon...still one must wonder though...Im sure its actually inhabitable...as scientests have recently said It would probably be, which means it allready does, sustain life....We have hope in Christ Jesus
The science is so bad! Europa would be boiled off to nothing with a new sun that close. As if a 2nd sun wouldn't cause runaway global warming on earth! As if the loss of nighttime wouldn't destroy so much of the nocturnal ecosystem! But consistent with Lucifer: promises light and peace, and delivers only destruction and death. This was perhaps the most pretentious and silly movie I ever saw. At least the original was good storytelling.
@Cre8tvMG Well jupiter wasn't really a new sun, just sorta like one, right? At least that's what I got out of it. It doesn't mention any sort of heat from it. And it is definitely not as big as a star. Plus, they would all be dead by the radiation if the heat from being that close to a sun didn't kill them first.
@DemonDamien - I read the book (I guess I'm a glutton for punishment, or just hoping it would eventually get better) and it is supposed to be a new star. The blocks multiply to increase the mass of jupiter until it starts nuclear reaction. Any star putting out that much light would put out heat too. And all of our heat swings on earth are caused by tiny differences in the sun's output. A new star, even a small one would cook us in a century.
@wooliescoom Aie, I got one for my b-day, used it for about a week, sold it, and got an iBook. Seriously, the Ipad doesn't suck, but it comes damn close.
@wooliescoom it is truely sad what our space program has become now. I was hoping to see much more in this time period than i could have imagined. I remember being 15 years old watching this movie and wondering what 2010 would really bring. And alas, I am 31 now and not much has changed but the computers and gadgets we now carry around. Its really depressing......
Well, that is the interesting part...the one area of society that science fiction didn't predict would go anywhere, that of communications and information technology, has excelled, while the areas they did predict went somewhat no where...just think of where we'll be in 50 years (if we survive ourselves)
@wooliescoom Well, just think-the one area of society where science fiction didn't predict would go anywhere to far, that of communications and information technology, has excelled, while we are still just orbiting the Earth! And who made that possible with the communications satellite? Arthur C Clarke (RIP)! Just think of where we'll be in 50 years (if we don't blow ourselves up first)?
i was watching this movie when it came on tv correct me if im wrong was the president black in the movie in 2010? if yes than it's either a coincidence or not for concidering how old this movie is :D we'll see...
@tallteeakasp No the president is the white guy on the cover of the Time magazine the black nurse is reading (interestingly the President and Soviet Premier are Clarke and Kubrick's images). The black guy you're thinking of is Heywood Floyd's replacement as the head of the space agency.
Another quasi-interesting bit of trivia: Stanley Kubrick destroyed both the 50-foot model of the Discovery and the blueprints for it shortly after "2001" to keep others from using them in their own projects. So when it came time to rebuild the model, they had to use frame blowups from a 70mm print of the film.
They didn't want us landing on Europa because they were starting life there and they didn't want us to interfere. This is the story that continues in "2061".
Great movie, but yet a bunch of BS, monolith is something that is solid like a mountain or a rock.....Im sorry but Jupiter is fully gas.....but great movie and great imagination, but they shouldve known that lol...corporate amercia for ya
Let's not overlook the question: What would the ignition of a star (even a minimally sized one) do to the Earth at such a close range?
Regardless, I thought it was a great movie as well (had the priveledge of seeing it in a theater upon it's release), and while I mean no disrespect towards Kubrick - 2010 was waaay better.
You're outa your fuckin mind if you think 2010 is better than 2001, no disrespect.
The amazing effects for 1968, the cinematography, the tone, the depth of plot, and just its overall pure epicness...2001 trumps 2010 in every concievable way.
I mean this is like comparing New Hope to Clone Wars; it's insulting.
If you like 2010 more because it's more explicit and conventional, fine, but 2001 is just a masterpiece of filmaking.
C'mon - better cast, better pacing, better dialogue, more of a point to the tale, and that ending - birth of an artificially created star and all.
I read all four books by A. C. Clarke, the first was waaay better than the movie, the second (which I read before the movie's release) was only marginally better than the movie (the book's Europa scene was sooo much cooler).
I guess it's about personal taste, but I hardly think it's a matter of me being out of my "fucking mind".
This will really happen soon. Luciferian new age religion is taking over the world covertly. You can see it more and more every day. They have kept you in the dark most of your life.
Sorry to change the subject but this is space-related.
To see a partial summary of the clear evidence that the Apollo moon missions were faked, google "The Naked Scientists". In the "New Theories" section of the forum there's a thread entitled "Did We Land on the Moon?". The summary is on page 15. It's the 7th one from the top.
Once people have seen the hoax evidence, there's nothing anyone can do to make them believe we went to the moon.
The " birth " of the new Sun ( in the novel it was called Lucifer, Ironically ) had a major flaw. The shock wave should've destroyed Leonov, ( squahed it like a bug or incenerated it ) like it did Discovery & HAL. Did the Monoliths exert some kind of protective influence ?
& what exactly what was the message in the sky from Dave Bowman & HAL composed of ? More monoliths, lighting up like fireflies ?
Just 2 nitpicks. Otherwise, I really liked the movie.
Lucifer actually means "Light Bearer" or "Morning Star"! It was not meant as ironic, but rather played to its actual etymological meaning!
In the novel, the Leonov left *days* before the birth of Lucifer, allowing for it sufficient time to escape it.
Frank's use of the word "sky" for reading the message is metaphorical. The message was relayed by radio through HAL, and it was thus received on Earth.
There are other actual problems with the movie, but I agree with you: It rocks!!!
Yeah, I know. It was great how ( in the novel ) they used the word " Lucifer " in the non - " demonology " sense.
Of course, they had to speed up the " birth " of Lucifer for dramatic purposes, ramping up the tension, etc.
I always found it hard to credit that a group of monoliths would arrange themselves in the sky around Lucifer / ( former ? ) Jupiter to form a visible message in English. I figured it was a metaphor.
Except for a few anachronisms, this is a very good film !
thats what I love about these kind of movies, everybody is an expert, and everybody misses the interesting bits ( that goes against me).....It reminds me of those songs that stuck, and yet, the lyrics make no sense.
& we have about 10,000 " chefs " stirring the sauce / consomme / soup, whatever.
Have you ever seen " 2001 " ? ( Probably a STUPID question on my part, but whatthehey..... ) EVERYBODY had an interpretation of that film, it was like an abstract pop - art painting. I was about 8, & I didn't know WHAT THE HELL I'd just seen !!
I still watch it when it's showing, & come away with something like a new
We must be ~same age, I saw it 1st when 8-9 while bugging my mother for explanations, she just ask me to shut up in no nice terms. Later on I remember fighting with my bro over a cube of milk, monkey style, the one who got the milk first became a more civilized species of super monkey...now picture that ^_^ ). . . Now I see the movie as a representation of the human psyche with the monolith the movie screen . . . but hey, we should ask Steve Jobs (LSD), maybe he knows better.
My chief recollection was leaving the movie theater thinking the 8 or 9 - year old equivalent of " what the hell ? " or maybe " Huh ? " ;-) Oh, yeah, I also thought about how sterile everything looked, although that was partly due to Kubrick's UNIQUE way of using light in his cinematography.
@marcellojun only the new international version which has been for all intensive purposes hi-jacked, perverted, many many verses entirely manilpulated and omitted. Lucifer is NOT THE SUN OF THE MORNING
There was no message in the sky. It was relayed by video signal, as indicated when the message showed up on the tv screen and when Dave said, "I want you to point the AE35 antenna toward Earth...Repeat the message as often as possible; it is the most important message you will have ever sent."
That sounds a HECKUVA LOT more realistic, although maybe less spectacular, than a constellation of monoliths lighting up & hovering in the sky near Jupiter / Sol II / Lucifer to form a ginormous message in English.
I still don't get how the Leonov escaped the Jovian blast wave from the explosion intact & supposedly unharmed unless they really poured on the speed, or Dave Bowman & the monoliths were watching out for them, they should've been squashed or incinerated, as I said.
"the monoliths were watching out for them", here you made me ROFL, Imagine what the local priest would say if you tell him that instead of guardian angel you have got a monolith watching for you, the numismatic coin of the universe, recognized in all the galaxy, ...hmmm, sounds like a commercial for american express, damn!, I should have gotten into the publicity business. LOL
My Lutheran Pastor w / have a fit of apoplexy if I mentioned " the power of the monolith ".
Coin ? No, the monolith is more like a credit / debit card, perhaps ? Recgnized galaxy - wide, or maybe like the The Triganic Pu ( Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference ).
" May the Monolith be with you ".
Powerful the Monolith is, yes, young one ! ( Yoda ref. )
@henry3k Not gonna happen. Clarke's estate would never let it happen, and quite frankly there's not a director alive today that's as competent as Stanley Kubrick, though I think's he's greatly overrated personally. Besides, MGM's on the brink of death anyway, so they don't have the money. It'd just end up being another straightforward space movie in the vein of 2010. Audiences today don't do obtuse and confusing very well.
I am beginning to notice two lines of thought here.
The people that can view appreciate and interpret 2001 a a whole with no "sequels"/further explanation necessary, and the people who view 2001 as relating to the other Arthur C.Clark works
ah yeah I forgot to say, the song "Thus spoke Zarahustra" which is always heard in 2001 and 2010 underlines the making and birth of the star(child) the Overrman. The song is telling about: "eternal recurrence of the same", the parable on the "death of God", and the "prophecy" of the Overman, which is clrearly shown in this movie.
One monolith remains on Europa to protect the evolving species there from humans trying to land on Europa from the other worlds orbiting the sun that was once Jupiter. The monolith "race" want's to wait for the Europans to advance on their own and make contact with the Human race independently. The monoliths did this hoping to predestine the coexistence of two intelligent species; Humans and Europans.
Well if I accept that is the case kyuteh... "the monolith wanting to protect the evolving species on Europa" - it was pretty harsh the way the advanced monolith intelligence corrupted Hal to turn off live support in 2001, was going to leave that guy to die in his spacepod, and other stuff. Murderous bastards. I'd hope The Culture and it's Special Circumstances met the monolith and went hostile on it.
The monoliths did not cause Hal to murder the crew. Hal murdered the crew because he didn't know what to do with the conflicting orders that he was given. It's all explained in the movie.
The movies 2001 and part 2 2010 The year we make contact are easier to understand if you have knowledge in ancient egypt/-greek mythologies. It is a telling of Isis and Osiris (Monolith) copulate and the result is the birth of the starchild (the baby)) who is the second sun (star) which lights day and night for everlasting peace and understanding for all nations. The copulation is showed in Kubricks 2001.
In the Stargate SG1 episode of the same name, the Aschen - A technologically advanced " benevolent dictator " humanoid alien species - had similar designs on Jupiter.
knoxvilleguy2 5 months ago
This is not ficiton like in star wars :]
Oloimpresive 7 months ago
Damn NASA for cutting the seat belt buckle budget!
amancalledlum 7 months ago
@amancalledlum That was ROSKOSMOS's ship and it's beltbuckles... not NCA/NASA
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In reality NWO has colony on mars.
Ostin364 7 months ago
I loved the ending but i for me it wasn't a happy ending, more like a frustrating one. What happened, basically was that a superior race came and took 1 planet and 1 of ther natural satelites from us and then said all the planets of the solar system belong to us except Europa...can we destroy the new Jupiter sun than? It's kinda like Avatar except we were the creators invaded and we had no chance to fight back.
kalimul 7 months ago
Seems that this could (the end scene) be fitting to watch around Christmastime (one thought), but still it is emotional
chip64c 7 months ago
the problem wit having too suns .. is .. dat ... it would b a GRAVITATIONAL . battle bewteen too powered suns
and the fact that JUPITER IS .. a new sun . would make it much more STRONGER .. but .. the solar system would b thrown out of orbit . over THE GRAVITATIONAL pull FIGHT between to stars
jupiter also would b about 10 times BRIGHTER.. and STRONGER .. with solar winds dat would prolly brush off a good chunk of the earth and other planets atmostphere ..
having too suns -we would b skrwed
akgonen60 8 months ago
@akgonen60 You are wrong. I could really write long about why but I will just leave you with a simple bit of information and leave you to figure out why you failed massively through that.
Gravity depends on mass, not density, the "aliens" in 2010 changed the density of Jupiter, not it's mass.
NATIK001 7 months ago 2
@NATIK001 - This is based on the idea that if Jupiter was denser, the core w / " heat up " & the solar system would have a 2nd sun. It wouldn't harm Earth in terms of energy output or gravitational pull, although the light from " the new Sun " ( Called " Lucifer " in Clarke's novelization ) would mean that ground based & satellite - based astronomy w / be a thing of the past, IF this scenario were to take place.
knoxvilleguy2 5 months ago
@akgonen60
And the radiation effects alone would be too much to handle. When producers made this film, did they bear the consequences?
pluto4847 7 months ago
whats the symbolism of the monolith? does it mean there is life on that planet at the end?
lolaroflmao 8 months ago
@lolaroflmao the computer is self inteligent, the monolit is some form of portal, once active, if u pay atention in the 1 one, 2001, the monkeys break a computer that was teleported via monolit to that place, no one took, the monolit took it. is part of the matter. i think, yes , there is life, there is jungle and every thing.
mariamole011 8 months ago
They all thought we would still be fighting the Russians. It's great things have changed.
productions963 9 months ago
So 2001 and 2010 have passed, neither has came true lol ;)
h2opolodan11 9 months ago
I want a monolith!
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AlphonseBarron 9 months ago
Crush the fledgling Europan menace with flamethrowers before it's too late.
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this is a sequel that needed to be made. it truly shows the purpose of the monoliths, and that is to begin life and give intellegence to worthy creatures. it kinda makes your head spin
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jhaarbur 10 months ago
@NismoTyler, imagine if Obama looked out the White House window and Hu Jintao or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad looked out their government buildings and saw SOMETHING incredible? I don't if it would be peace on Earth outright, but wouldn't it be interesting if something in 2011 happened...?
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@NismoTyler, imagine if Obama looked out the White House window and Hu Jintao or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad looked out their government buildings and saw SOMETHING incredible? I don't if it would be peace on Earth outright, but wouldn't it be interesting if something in 2011 happened...?
jhaarbur 10 months ago
@NismoTyler, I mean, think about if Obama looked out the White House and Hu Jintao or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad looked out their government buildings and saw SOMETHING akin to this? I don't know if there would be on Earth out right, but wouldn't it be nice if we had something to unite us...?
jhaarbur 10 months ago
@NismoTyler, you are right! The way I see it now, in a hundred years, we are either at a Level 1 civilization and we are on our way to 2001 level or we are toast. And at the rate things are going, who knows? Right now we are at a 0.8 or 0.9 society and if we can continue, we'll get to where we need to be. But at the rate things are going, I don't think any sense of humor will unite us. We need a scene like this to unite us! Wouldn't be interesting if we had something like this happen...?
jhaarbur 10 months ago
@NismoTyler, you are right! The way I see it now, in a hundred years, we are either at a Level 1 civilization and we are on our way to 2001 level or we are toast. And at the rate things are going, who knows? Right now we are at a 0.8 or 0.9 society and if we can continue, we'll get to where we need to be. But at the rate things are going, I don't think any sense of humor will unite us. We need a scene like this to unite us! Wouldn't be interesting if we had something like this happen...?
jhaarbur 10 months ago
So we got a new sun last year. But where is it? I cant see it!
pat1981lux 10 months ago
It's amazing how cynical I have become since first seeing this film when it was released. Now, I watch it with a nagging feeling that some people would interpret this sequel as a religious themed film more than the original. Kubrick was not a religious person at all and even though the first film could have been interpreted in a religious way, somehow I feel that the Hollywood system stained the sequel more than it did the original.
They should have left the story well alone.
lucavigg 10 months ago
At the very end of the film, is that on the Europa?
bbenjoe 11 months ago
@bbenjoe probably. maybe Kubrik wanted us to decide for ourselves.
hizman2 11 months ago
@bbenjoe probably. maybe they wanted us to decide for ourselves.
hizman2 11 months ago
@bbenjoe Yes.
darthroden 6 months ago
R.I.P. Sir Arthur C. Clarke. You truly deserve the title of Grand Master in the field of science fiction writing.
grandpadewey 1 year ago
Why do people thumbs up retarded comments that start with "thumbs up"?
TakeBackTheWorld 1 year ago
why didnt they all die?
hallowedbeeddie 1 year ago
switch to warp 10 lol
1499Erick 1 year ago
APACHE N4SIR
CocaColaDance 1 year ago
Most beautiful film I have ever seen.
octopusmagnificens 1 year ago
good movie but underrated because it's predecessor was a masterpiece
Brikjard 1 year ago 7
this didnt hapend in 2010
MrPogiako101 1 year ago
if this realy happened Earth would be cooked by the heat of two suns.
Doctor699 1 year ago
@Doctor699 Clearly then, you know nothing of planetary systems, stars and orbits. Please don't post useless shit.
AeonXero 1 year ago
@AeonXero: But a lot of systems are binary.
TheUFOeffect 1 year ago
@Doctor699
Your ignorance is profound.
Shotgunner56 1 year ago
@Shotgunner56 SHUT THE FUCK UP AND ENJOY THE MOVIE! OKAY I MADE A MISTAKE, BIG FUCKING DEAL!
Doctor699 1 year ago
@Doctor699
lol umad
Shotgunner56 1 year ago
"we don't have much time"
barbieclue 1 year ago
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I loved "2001: A Space Odyssey" I like Roy Scheider and Peter Hyams is a good scifi film director. However this movie is so GAY!
thx291 1 year ago
The music is great in this sequence.
TheGrumpstein 1 year ago 4
Too bad that when the Soviet Union fell and the Berlin wall fell the "Fear" wasnt over.Too many people have a vested interest in keepng people fearful and ignorant. Instead of moving towards peace and unity,the controllers of this planet gave us a new enemy---The "Terrorists" . Very sad. The human race has so much potential---but only if we work together Unfortunately, there are people who WANT to keep us divided and at war with each other,because it enriches them and allows them control.
mrbrianmccarthy 1 year ago
@mrbrianmccarthy
It's because some people are just addicted to the war economy
navylaks2 1 year ago
@mrbrianmccarthy
Too true.
I also find it absurd people are so fearful over a few terrorists. Most of them are poor, have very little influence over anything and are practically all bark and no bite. Media have given them far too much coverage and blown them out of proportion.
Let's see here: Which is the worse problem, the global economic crisis or a few terrorists? Global warming or a few terrorists? The economic trouble is a far more damaging to the ordinary people.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@McLarenMercedes I do agree that the economy is more important that "a few terrorist". But the reason there are so few right now is because we killed or captured so many. Besides, our economy took an auful big hit because of a "few" terrorist running into two very epensive buildings.
2727taterbug 11 months ago
The only good thing about living in the year 2010 is that we now have panty de-regulation; apart from that, everything about it sucks....
magnatron2010 1 year ago
im sure the whole crew has died of cancer
machetazos1 1 year ago
1:15 idk y, but that's kinda funny...
spontaneoussam2 1 year ago
Here we are, 2010 as we speak. We haven't even returned to the Moon, not to mention setting up a base there or even starting work on an expedition to mars. The whole world would participate in that miracle, but nooooooo. Warrack O'bummer stops it dead at start of project Constellation. Mars has 24h day, 38% Earth's gravity, and an atmosphere of mostly CO2. Of course it will take hundreds or thousand of years to adapt this planet for our colonization, but WTF are we going to start???
soberek 1 year ago
Magical futuristic ending!
wandererlain 1 year ago
Roy is the best!!!
5613n8 1 year ago
hey isn't that the guy from 3rd rock from the sun? can't get enough of that alien stuff can he :P
MrSmileyHasABigDong 1 year ago
@MrSmileyHasABigDong You should see him in a film called 'Ricochet' playing the bad guy! Brilliant actor.
neil73 1 year ago
NOOO way SHRINKING?! :P
MrSmileyHasABigDong 1 year ago
Super movie !!!!
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S2KMW2 1 year ago
USA-UDSSR the expedition
borvo7 1 year ago
I wonder if they'll ever make movies to the third and forth book. We certainly have the technology to do it.
dannytheman1313 1 year ago
That was lol white dragon tile
student392 1 year ago
we have some serious catching up to do...
WhiteDragonTile 1 year ago
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@RepentNowHellsReal Great series. Thanks. We have hope faith & LIfe in Jesus Christ. We are saved through the blood of Jesus when he laid his life down for us and died for us on the cross. Jesus was G-d in the form of man. He died for our sins. If we ask forgivness for our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins. We jast have to admit to him in repenatnce we are a sinner and invite him into our heart!
buybusiness 1 year ago
why not europe ?
CloudRiviera 1 year ago
@CloudRiviera Europea one of Jupiters moon...still one must wonder though...Im sure its actually inhabitable...as scientests have recently said It would probably be, which means it allready does, sustain life....We have hope in Christ Jesus
buybusiness 1 year ago
I noticed Jupiter, Zeus looks like an eyeball as it's shrinking.
This film is illuminati code. I doubt they, 33, can turn Jupiter into a start.
But, Voyager 2 launched 33 years ago from earth has begun sending odd messages back to earth. And, Jupiter has lsot its southern belt.
PatrioticFront 1 year ago
jesus...what the hell was that crap?
deanimate 1 year ago
I really wanted the screen to type out: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US.
Cre8tvMG 1 year ago
The science is so bad! Europa would be boiled off to nothing with a new sun that close. As if a 2nd sun wouldn't cause runaway global warming on earth! As if the loss of nighttime wouldn't destroy so much of the nocturnal ecosystem! But consistent with Lucifer: promises light and peace, and delivers only destruction and death. This was perhaps the most pretentious and silly movie I ever saw. At least the original was good storytelling.
Cre8tvMG 1 year ago
@Cre8tvMG Well jupiter wasn't really a new sun, just sorta like one, right? At least that's what I got out of it. It doesn't mention any sort of heat from it. And it is definitely not as big as a star. Plus, they would all be dead by the radiation if the heat from being that close to a sun didn't kill them first.
DemonDamien 1 year ago
@DemonDamien - I read the book (I guess I'm a glutton for punishment, or just hoping it would eventually get better) and it is supposed to be a new star. The blocks multiply to increase the mass of jupiter until it starts nuclear reaction. Any star putting out that much light would put out heat too. And all of our heat swings on earth are caused by tiny differences in the sun's output. A new star, even a small one would cook us in a century.
Cre8tvMG 1 year ago
@DemonDamien
And yah, the people on the spaceship would have been 'microwaved' in real life. "Ask not for Minde in Hollywood" to misquote Donne.
Cre8tvMG 1 year ago
@Cre8tvMG So what the screen was REALLY typing out was code for "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US." ah, it's all clear now...
DemonDamien 1 year ago 5
thumbs up if kotaku brought you here
Bulk02 1 year ago 246
haha true
guitartorch123 1 year ago
shit sux
darksagerk 1 year ago
2010 and in reality we haven't even been back to the moon yet but at least on he bright side we've got apple ipads now.
wooliescoom 1 year ago 27
@wooliescoom very good :-)
manicminer2010 1 year ago
@wooliescoom
But the iPad is a piece of crap.
But I agree, at least our technology is improving.
shrek187 1 year ago 2
@wooliescoom Aie, I got one for my b-day, used it for about a week, sold it, and got an iBook. Seriously, the Ipad doesn't suck, but it comes damn close.
DemonDamien 1 year ago
@wooliescoom Or, you know... Another star forming in our solar system which in reality would probably be a bad thing. :P
magog1138 1 year ago
@wooliescoom but at least the i pod looks like a monolith..... right.
GeorgeDeadson 1 year ago
@wooliescoom it is truely sad what our space program has become now. I was hoping to see much more in this time period than i could have imagined. I remember being 15 years old watching this movie and wondering what 2010 would really bring. And alas, I am 31 now and not much has changed but the computers and gadgets we now carry around. Its really depressing......
zairman 1 year ago
@zairman We've chosen comfort and conveniences over dreams.
josesolty 1 year ago
@zairman
If you were in charge of the space program, and encountered monoliths on our moon, would you want to go back?
pkscolax 1 year ago
Well, that is the interesting part...the one area of society that science fiction didn't predict would go anywhere, that of communications and information technology, has excelled, while the areas they did predict went somewhat no where...just think of where we'll be in 50 years (if we survive ourselves)
jhaarbur 1 year ago
@jhaarbur we probably won't unless our senses of humor can somehow connect on a universal level
NismoTyler 10 months ago
@wooliescoom Well, just think-the one area of society where science fiction didn't predict would go anywhere to far, that of communications and information technology, has excelled, while we are still just orbiting the Earth! And who made that possible with the communications satellite? Arthur C Clarke (RIP)! Just think of where we'll be in 50 years (if we don't blow ourselves up first)?
jhaarbur 1 year ago
@wooliescoom there are things on the moon we are not suposed to know, but there is,
mariamole011 8 months ago
seatbelt failed lmao so much for safety
lilbih 1 year ago
so whens will this happen, lol, in the next couple months?
linksfood 1 year ago
Earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, extreme weather, maybe WE are getting our own warning this Earth Day from the "landlord"
CarlaLR74 1 year ago
i was watching this movie when it came on tv correct me if im wrong was the president black in the movie in 2010? if yes than it's either a coincidence or not for concidering how old this movie is :D we'll see...
tallteeakasp 1 year ago
@tallteeakasp No the president is the white guy on the cover of the Time magazine the black nurse is reading (interestingly the President and Soviet Premier are Clarke and Kubrick's images). The black guy you're thinking of is Heywood Floyd's replacement as the head of the space agency.
MichaelAarons1701 1 year ago
Another quasi-interesting bit of trivia: Stanley Kubrick destroyed both the 50-foot model of the Discovery and the blueprints for it shortly after "2001" to keep others from using them in their own projects. So when it came time to rebuild the model, they had to use frame blowups from a 70mm print of the film.
cubdukat 1 year ago
why not land on europa? in fact, isnt that one of the moons we are actually thinking about landing on?
FiresofH0j0 2 years ago
yes
Terrorkarel 2 years ago
They didn't want us landing on Europa because they were starting life there and they didn't want us to interfere. This is the story that continues in "2061".
nightshadedesign 1 year ago
Isn't Europa a little close to the new star?
And what the hell happened to the planets during the explosion...
NoMorFear 2 years ago
***What the hell happened to the MOONS (not planets), including Europa, during the explosion***
NoMorFear 2 years ago
what does your superstitions have to do with this scene ighforever???
BSchuh3 2 years ago
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Jesus Christ is Lord of all. Amen.
There is NO peace without Christ. Amen.
ighforever 2 years ago
@ighforever Are you an idiot?
YamiPoyo 2 years ago
@ighforever
Not an idiot. Just has problem. Brain broken. Not work so good.
samattos1 2 years ago
smoke sum ganjah
angwon360 2 years ago
Oh..and one of our guys just flew out the ship into outerspace....oh no worries...oooo what is that light?
dave9772 2 years ago
Great movie, but yet a bunch of BS, monolith is something that is solid like a mountain or a rock.....Im sorry but Jupiter is fully gas.....but great movie and great imagination, but they shouldve known that lol...corporate amercia for ya
dave9772 2 years ago
@dave9772 The monolith is on europa not jupiter.
YamiPoyo 2 years ago
Yes,but the monoliths ate Jupiter and turned it into a second star....have you even see the movie...or read the book?
Dalbert342 2 years ago
The monolith Condensed Jupiter's mass and the mass ignited.
YamiPoyo 2 years ago
@dave9772
Let's not overlook the question: What would the ignition of a star (even a minimally sized one) do to the Earth at such a close range?
Regardless, I thought it was a great movie as well (had the priveledge of seeing it in a theater upon it's release), and while I mean no disrespect towards Kubrick - 2010 was waaay better.
steveb0503 2 years ago
steveb0503
You're outa your fuckin mind if you think 2010 is better than 2001, no disrespect.
The amazing effects for 1968, the cinematography, the tone, the depth of plot, and just its overall pure epicness...2001 trumps 2010 in every concievable way.
I mean this is like comparing New Hope to Clone Wars; it's insulting.
If you like 2010 more because it's more explicit and conventional, fine, but 2001 is just a masterpiece of filmaking.
2001 is the greatest sci-fi movie of all-time.
NoMorFear 2 years ago
NoMorFear,
C'mon - better cast, better pacing, better dialogue, more of a point to the tale, and that ending - birth of an artificially created star and all.
I read all four books by A. C. Clarke, the first was waaay better than the movie, the second (which I read before the movie's release) was only marginally better than the movie (the book's Europa scene was sooo much cooler).
I guess it's about personal taste, but I hardly think it's a matter of me being out of my "fucking mind".
steveb0503 2 years ago
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ausseratem 2 years ago
It would be cool to have monoliths flying out of Jupiter.
FelinityMithra 2 years ago
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happy 2010!!!!! copy and paste all over youtube
monkeynut000 2 years ago
Long may peace reign, be it from the yanks or the soviets...
cannonski 2 years ago
in the book Hal and bowman watch Discovery fall to pieces when jupiter explodes
TheDEATHSTARIII 2 years ago 9
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This will really happen soon. Luciferian new age religion is taking over the world covertly. You can see it more and more every day. They have kept you in the dark most of your life.
Soupdragoon 2 years ago
@Soupdragoon a lot of folks still in the land of the blind...i hear yer fella
AR2D76 2 years ago
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Cosmored 2 years ago
so deres going to be two suns in 2010
evanhughes7 2 years ago
yes
kubikdoctor 2 years ago
So that is what people call a "raising star"?. O.o
kubikdoctor 2 years ago
The " birth " of the new Sun ( in the novel it was called Lucifer, Ironically ) had a major flaw. The shock wave should've destroyed Leonov, ( squahed it like a bug or incenerated it ) like it did Discovery & HAL. Did the Monoliths exert some kind of protective influence ?
& what exactly what was the message in the sky from Dave Bowman & HAL composed of ? More monoliths, lighting up like fireflies ?
Just 2 nitpicks. Otherwise, I really liked the movie.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
Lucifer actually means "Light Bearer" or "Morning Star"! It was not meant as ironic, but rather played to its actual etymological meaning!
In the novel, the Leonov left *days* before the birth of Lucifer, allowing for it sufficient time to escape it.
Frank's use of the word "sky" for reading the message is metaphorical. The message was relayed by radio through HAL, and it was thus received on Earth.
There are other actual problems with the movie, but I agree with you: It rocks!!!
marcellojun 2 years ago 14
Yeah, I know. It was great how ( in the novel ) they used the word " Lucifer " in the non - " demonology " sense.
Of course, they had to speed up the " birth " of Lucifer for dramatic purposes, ramping up the tension, etc.
I always found it hard to credit that a group of monoliths would arrange themselves in the sky around Lucifer / ( former ? ) Jupiter to form a visible message in English. I figured it was a metaphor.
Except for a few anachronisms, this is a very good film !
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
I thought that was a transmission???, from HAL?. This is why the captain told him "this is the most important transmision you will give"
kubikdoctor 2 years ago
It was. The special FX just made it look like a bunch of glowing monoliths arranged like letters & words around the new Sun that was Jupiter.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
thats what I love about these kind of movies, everybody is an expert, and everybody misses the interesting bits ( that goes against me).....It reminds me of those songs that stuck, and yet, the lyrics make no sense.
kubikdoctor 2 years ago
kubikdoctor:
& we have about 10,000 " chefs " stirring the sauce / consomme / soup, whatever.
Have you ever seen " 2001 " ? ( Probably a STUPID question on my part, but whatthehey..... ) EVERYBODY had an interpretation of that film, it was like an abstract pop - art painting. I was about 8, & I didn't know WHAT THE HELL I'd just seen !!
I still watch it when it's showing, & come away with something like a new
" insight ".
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
We must be ~same age, I saw it 1st when 8-9 while bugging my mother for explanations, she just ask me to shut up in no nice terms. Later on I remember fighting with my bro over a cube of milk, monkey style, the one who got the milk first became a more civilized species of super monkey...now picture that ^_^ ). . . Now I see the movie as a representation of the human psyche with the monolith the movie screen . . . but hey, we should ask Steve Jobs (LSD), maybe he knows better.
kubikdoctor 2 years ago
Now THAT is a story worth publishing !!!!!!!!
My chief recollection was leaving the movie theater thinking the 8 or 9 - year old equivalent of " what the hell ? " or maybe " Huh ? " ;-) Oh, yeah, I also thought about how sterile everything looked, although that was partly due to Kubrick's UNIQUE way of using light in his cinematography.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
@marcellojun only the new international version which has been for all intensive purposes hi-jacked, perverted, many many verses entirely manilpulated and omitted. Lucifer is NOT THE SUN OF THE MORNING
buybusiness 1 year ago
@buybusiness LUCIFER SUN OF THE MORNING, IM GONNA CHASE YOU OUT OF EARTH
Galltron3000 1 year ago
There was no message in the sky. It was relayed by video signal, as indicated when the message showed up on the tv screen and when Dave said, "I want you to point the AE35 antenna toward Earth...Repeat the message as often as possible; it is the most important message you will have ever sent."
MrLazy27 2 years ago
MrLazy27:
That sounds a HECKUVA LOT more realistic, although maybe less spectacular, than a constellation of monoliths lighting up & hovering in the sky near Jupiter / Sol II / Lucifer to form a ginormous message in English.
I still don't get how the Leonov escaped the Jovian blast wave from the explosion intact & supposedly unharmed unless they really poured on the speed, or Dave Bowman & the monoliths were watching out for them, they should've been squashed or incinerated, as I said.
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
"the monoliths were watching out for them", here you made me ROFL, Imagine what the local priest would say if you tell him that instead of guardian angel you have got a monolith watching for you, the numismatic coin of the universe, recognized in all the galaxy, ...hmmm, sounds like a commercial for american express, damn!, I should have gotten into the publicity business. LOL
kubikdoctor 2 years ago
My Lutheran Pastor w / have a fit of apoplexy if I mentioned " the power of the monolith ".
Coin ? No, the monolith is more like a credit / debit card, perhaps ? Recgnized galaxy - wide, or maybe like the The Triganic Pu ( Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference ).
" May the Monolith be with you ".
Powerful the Monolith is, yes, young one ! ( Yoda ref. )
knoxvilleguy2 2 years ago
The age of two suns...
SlimD11 2 years ago
they got the effects and lighting better 16 years earlier in 2001.
Valelacerte 2 years ago 3
This is now Alternative History....
Nebris 2 years ago 3
I can't find a single still of the damn Europa monolith...
1RadicalOne 2 years ago
Roy Schnieder was great in this film I miss him R.I.P Roy..
G4MOF 2 years ago 5
Wikipedia: Von Neumann probes
=)
tfcdomprice 2 years ago
interesting stuff! Thanks
manicminer2010 2 years ago
There is some rumour about making a 3001 Odyssey movie! I hope so!
henry3k 2 years ago
Damn, I hope it's true! This is the first I've heard. I think 3001 is my favorite of the four books (although I also like 2061).
bijeto 2 years ago
@henry3k Not gonna happen. Clarke's estate would never let it happen, and quite frankly there's not a director alive today that's as competent as Stanley Kubrick, though I think's he's greatly overrated personally. Besides, MGM's on the brink of death anyway, so they don't have the money. It'd just end up being another straightforward space movie in the vein of 2010. Audiences today don't do obtuse and confusing very well.
cubdukat 1 year ago
so why did they never make 3001 to finish off the story. cos mankind does land on europa and all sort of shit starts a happening
skippy646 2 years ago
how do yu know that?
LiwamGeebon 2 years ago
is this movie taken seriously?
I am beginning to notice two lines of thought here.
The people that can view appreciate and interpret 2001 a a whole with no "sequels"/further explanation necessary, and the people who view 2001 as relating to the other Arthur C.Clark works
lili9000c 2 years ago
Blue Thunder and that baseball movie too
valarvalanor 2 years ago
I like alien technology.
titanic19 2 years ago
mormons.
BloodMagex 2 years ago
ah yeah I forgot to say, the song "Thus spoke Zarahustra" which is always heard in 2001 and 2010 underlines the making and birth of the star(child) the Overrman. The song is telling about: "eternal recurrence of the same", the parable on the "death of God", and the "prophecy" of the Overman, which is clrearly shown in this movie.
66mra 2 years ago
what's the meaning of the very last scene?
doorledfleet 2 years ago
One monolith remains on Europa to protect the evolving species there from humans trying to land on Europa from the other worlds orbiting the sun that was once Jupiter. The monolith "race" want's to wait for the Europans to advance on their own and make contact with the Human race independently. The monoliths did this hoping to predestine the coexistence of two intelligent species; Humans and Europans.
kyuteh 2 years ago
thanks
LiwamGeebon 2 years ago
Well if I accept that is the case kyuteh... "the monolith wanting to protect the evolving species on Europa" - it was pretty harsh the way the advanced monolith intelligence corrupted Hal to turn off live support in 2001, was going to leave that guy to die in his spacepod, and other stuff. Murderous bastards. I'd hope The Culture and it's Special Circumstances met the monolith and went hostile on it.
housecash 2 years ago
ok?
LiwamGeebon 2 years ago
The monoliths did not cause Hal to murder the crew. Hal murdered the crew because he didn't know what to do with the conflicting orders that he was given. It's all explained in the movie.
MrLazy27 2 years ago
The movies 2001 and part 2 2010 The year we make contact are easier to understand if you have knowledge in ancient egypt/-greek mythologies. It is a telling of Isis and Osiris (Monolith) copulate and the result is the birth of the starchild (the baby)) who is the second sun (star) which lights day and night for everlasting peace and understanding for all nations. The copulation is showed in Kubricks 2001.
66mra 2 years ago
probab