I think if God exists then the Deists must have it right from my observation of the state of humanity. In which case people like TJ would not be in any danger of his vengeance. I'm speaking hypothetically of course. Its the only kind of speak about God there can be.
@PufferBluntman It's possible to be happy and to be a nihilist. I can still feel emotion; it requires no faith nor my belief in it for the emotion to exist. I could say "I don't believe in emotions", but that doesn't stop my brain functioning in a way that produces the feelings of happiness or sadness.
@PandaEff "It's possible to be happy and to be a nihilist. I can still feel emotion; it requires no faith nor my belief in it for the emotion to exist. I could say "I don't believe in emotions", but that doesn't stop my brain functioning in a way that produces the feelings of happiness or sadness."
What you said is in and of itself a contradiction to your own belief of Nihilism. Good job.
As the guy already said below me, it IS being poser if you're simultaneously nihilist yet happy. Happiness presumes you have Comfirmed something in this life, which implies meaning. Which is why I ain't one.
@guitaoist Maybe I'm not then. I only came across this video because I was looking for info on nihilism (I've been accused of being a nihilist a few times by different people so I figured I'd research it a bit; I never know what to say). As a subscriber to AmazingAtheist I thought I'd give this a look to see what this person was saying and how it compared to previous things I'd read etc. I think it's possible to have happiness without meaning though. Why do you think otherwise?
Ok fuck heads. Go to counterorder . com and get a real understanding of nihilism. Until then, go listen to Ario Speedwagon and white wash a fucking fence!
That quote by Nietzsche makes him sound like a fucktard, and like he doesn't even understand what nihilism is. "A nihilist is a man who believes that the world as it is, ought NOT to be", uh a nihilist doesn't believe anything ought to do/be anything, because that requires the existence of an objective moral standard which nihilists don't believe in.
If you read the rest of the passage in will to power you would find that just as your argument implies: nihilists chase their own tail.. He's saying yes, you don't acknowledge anyithing...good job. But the acutual acknowledgment of unackowledgement is a form of agno ledge meant. The rest of the quote "..and 'the world as it OUGHT to be, doesn't exist'. A contradiction." means despite whatever anti standard you put, or claims to having no standard, you're still Attempting..and this is pro-life.
Before you tell people to read this ore that book you should make yourself familiar with "The Logic of Scientific Research" from the German Philosopher Karl Popper. You can not make "scientific" claims and then state them as "facts" because people can't disproof them. You can't even proof you're theories yourself. But you should give us a way how to falsify you're theories. (Every Scientific theory can be falsified at some points because they relate to some claims, which can be falsified.)
For the record, we science folk don't like living in our 'little world',
the walls of which were built by a thing called evidence, not by our masochistic will to dismiss ourselves as useless monkeys on a dieing piece of rock.
what once was thought to be 'magic' has since been assimilated into the ranks of science. this new ages psuedoscience will either follow suit, or be exposed for what it is.
Yes I have evidence if u have the time to read what you hate...it's called the conscious universe by dean radin, cosmos and psyche by Richard tarnas, and evidence for the afterlife by Jeffrey long. That covers scientific evidence for astrology, psi, and what will happen after this body.
because they have power issues. seriously i havent heard of a single scientists EVER finishing an entire book on astrology, nor known their friends birthdays so they can i dunno actually judge their friends traits. they do "experiments" yet have no actual knowledge of birthcharts, transits, aspects, nor their own moon sign! it is wrought with biasm. james randis "test" specifically is the biggest load of bullshit anyone could come up with. i already have a vid explaining that
@guitaoist Wrong they disagree with it because there is no theory behind and never has or will be. Not that you should even need science to tell you this as its very premise is absurd. I hate whenever delusional people want to remain willifully ignorant they always go for the science is biased excuse to not accept facts
oh so youve read Cosmos and Psyche by richard tarnas that proves astrologies relevance? because since you must have, otherwise you wouldnt be making claims about its irrelevance, then you probably have the counter argument...what is that? oh wait you havent read a single work. its "above" you. right. so if youre better than it, than prove it. I and richard tarnas already have. read us, then argue, thats the scientific method.
first off i talked already about twins. you dont do homework. second i mentioned a motherfuckin book in my motherfuckin comment. lol grow up and read up.
type astrology in my searchbar, i dont have time to give you proof. my vids mention it a hundred times. i never said twins were the same. strawman. i believe every soul is unique though i can mention the dateline twintuition article that you can youtube where twins who knew nothing of each other had similar occupations...while twins who grew up together were more unique, BECAUSE THEY WANTED EVEN MORE TO BE UNIQUE, and "rebelled" against WhateveR the other person did. is my hunch.
@guitaoist if you want to participate in the mass cultural delusion that the sun's apparent position relevant to arbitrarily defined constellations at the time of your birth somehow affects your personality then show some evidence (if the premise was true twins would be the same) or some theory as to why others WITH evidence agaonst this absurd belief should believe this, THERE IS NON IN YOUR VIDEO you also assume atheists are nihilist which is SO untrue
@guitaoist You dont even understand the word atheist for crying out loud. Its an insult that you make a video on anything when you dont understand the thing your discussing.....""If atheism is true, and there is abolutely nothing affecting men, " seriously where did this idea about atheism come from?
Il ask a genuine question - what do you think atheism means and then link it to "atheist dont believe there is nothing affecting men"...i honestly thought you were doing a parody.
I'll ask a question too. Why should you be good to your fellow neighbor? I know it's just the decent thing to do but what significance does it hold in the end? Atheists seem to attribute everything to themselves yet they didn't create themselves. You believe in nothing so nothing will come of your life.
Atheists believe stuff, you are wrong. Atheists belief in the truth. And my mother-love or my ambition to be good to my neighbor fellow etc. are true, because It's easy to convince myself that I have them. I just don't believe in good or good-like power because there is no evidence. If there would be evidence to you're fancy theories, they would for sure have been publicized in scientific papers. Scientists are people with a lot of time and freedom to search for new knowledge.
@guitaoist 1. I asked you a question you could be decent enough to answer. 2 where has my comment gone to ? 3. in answer to your question - why should we be good , its inate in us, solidarity its what kept humans and every other species togehter for millions of years. I would like to see the human species become great. Pretty simple . 4 So you only act kindly cos you are afraid of hell....would you not be so moral if there was none?
5 Again see 1 and answer the question i asked orginally
UNO. Atheism means you don't believe in any higher power...yet I believe we as humans ARE a higher power. Dos. I can c ur comment from where I'm standing so what r u talking about. Tres. Boring answer. Four. Straw man if I've ever seen one. I don't believe in hell I believe thte dmt trip is the afterlife I dont believe in Satan or pitchforks. Aheists are more black and white than spiritualists!
@guitaoist Comical in the extreme. You believe in things with no evidence of the link.Athesism is the lack of the belief due to no evidence. Science is evidence based. 400 years ago if people saw a television they would think it were some higher power, paronormal universe, god etc. Teleopathy or anything in that domain doesnt imply a god or afterlife, just a realm we know little about yet. In 400 years it could well be as understand as other aspects of science. Oh and you found 3 boring..so what
That means you don't lov your mother, if your concept of validity is mere physical evidence. Smoke dmt and you'll see the evidence yourself. how can I prove a place to you that I can't hand you except with a peace pipe? I can't and thats nobody's fault. I agree telepathy doesn't imply an afterlife. But I disagree that you think anything I say will prove it so...do things for yourself. I'm not your mommy
@guitaoist Could you be anymore condescending. I am well aware of the feelings one has when smoking dmt. How is that in anyway related to love. So you think the release of a naturally occuring hormone in the brains implies a higher power of life?Yes indeed you arent my mommy. Your a man wasting his brain based on what you have said here and on the video. Again nothing you say can prove everything - please try to understand the concept of evidence. Beliefs mean nothing. Yes im a scientist.
You aren't aware of anything you haven't done ie dmt. don't say you're a scientist without experimenting yourself. it makes sense how u don't understand the concept Carl Sagan himself wrote in the film Contact concerning faith vs physical evidence for God. Once you've read the Field, the Conscious Universe, Cosmos and Psyche, Emersons Essays, Nietzsches claims to telekinesis in my top hit vid, then we can begin at the same point or even ballpark. Scientist or no.
@guitaoist Your talking on one part of a pseudoscience with no method to study or understand it yet. That firstly should be enough not to make claims regardin what it is. It could as easily be a figment of strong dreaming due to dmt which drives dreaming. Yet on this subject we know nothing about you want to go and make a lovely hail mary jump into "this is an afterlife/ higher power whatever." Understand the principles of science.Not knowing doesnt mean "i can decide what it means myself"......
Oh so you haven't read those. Just making sure. And yes I can hear you saying you don't know what dmt does. Well done there's a book with words inside called dmt spirit molecule. That is science. You haven't even said anything yet. You just say 'you're wrong' and make a claim about my references, at least I have them!
@guitaoist no a book with spirit molecule is not science. Stop claiming it is. Its deeply offending to the area that you mix up a belief wit peer reviewed evidence. Whatever scientific basis there may be to deep sleep and what we can learn from it your claims make it out to be a joke. Nah i didnt say your wrong.....nice misquote. Maybe re read a comment again.....
right your dyslexic or cant read so y bother, bout to block you if u put ur shit comments up with no purpose. but love to keep this crap up to show the world your idiocy and blatant anti reading campaign.
@guitaoist Thanks again for another personal slur. Yes block me. Sure thats what science is all about lol. Sure maybe delete my comments too so more people will be fooled by this nonsense. Not that you can stop them reading the top rated comments. Anti reading? Ya keep believing that a gas giant controls your life cos a book says it. There are books on goblins and pixies too. You are showing the world - yes thats why the comments is voted red and the highest comments take the video apart
sounds like you havent done dmt, im less scared of dying than you are BECAUSE i know there is a medium, NOT because im a dumb lazy ignorant fuk who hasnt yet seen the light of knowledge AS spiritual & who watches fat atheists who think theyve got it all figured out. but wait you probably are a fat atheist who hasnt done dmt or read a single full nietzsche work. am i right or am i right
@guitaoist dmt as in dimethyltryptamine? So you're druggie too... Figures.
I just read your profile, and it's just amazing how fucked up you are. You're desperate to adopt any pseudo-philosophies and fairy tales. You're the one who thinks that you have some greater knowledge.
Your as dumb as they cum. Dmt is in your brain. So every night you dream you're a druggie then too genius. Read up 'realist'. Someone sounds like a pussy to me. Read dmt spirit molecule, read cosmos and psyche, read the field, read the conscious universe, read something! Lest I talk to a blind man about colors.
I see no response from TJ. Did he have one? Perhaps he couldn't grasp a way to respond to a person far smarter than himself. All his reply videos are made out to imbeciles.That's a funny ego trip. Well, it doesn't really matter.
Props to talking against the atheist. But you can't think you've figured it all out without actually thinking things through. That's actually why there's so many interpretations of god, or why there's so many religions. You can't make assumptions so quick, don't be so ignorant.
@guitaoist Sterilized? It's amusing you say that, when if you reproduced(like anyone would touch you, you filthy repulsing shit) you would infact be contaminated humanity's gene pool, you fucking cocksucker. Also I accidently deleted that comment which I state you are a piece of shit, because, you are one.
@guitaoist Funny, as chances are you've never touched a women outside your own family. Even then, I doubt they aren't revolted by the distorted form of abomination that you call yourself a 'human'.
Atheism is NOT the belief that there is nothing affecting man; it is the DISbelief that there is a God: Nothing more. Anything else tacked on to an Atheist's worldview is beside the point. I am an atheist, and I also believe in abortion: does that inevitably necessitate that all other atheists must believe in abortion as well? No. It simply demonstrates that I am an individual who does not believe in a God (an atheist), who also happens to hold other opinions.
These are just random patterns, and I hope you realize an ugly pattern is highly subjective. And saying love, makes a diamond pattern? So what, that is circumstantial evidence.
Emoto does believe this is true, but he has never been able to prove it under controlled conditions. It would be very simple - mark two bottles, freeze them, take the labels off and ask him which one said 'peace' and which one said 'war'. He can't do it. He'd be eligible for a million bucks if he could.
firstly randi isnt paying anyone else a million unless ur talking about something else. otherly, how do youknow emoto believes his own experiments arent true..what source is that from?
"If anyone can show me one example in the history of the world of a single psychic who has been able to prove, under reasonable experimental conditions that they are able to read minds... I will give you my piano, one of my legs, and my wife."
Last thing. An opinion is like an asshole. Everyone's got one. So don't get upset if someone's is different to yours. Just stick to what you believe and know. Don't try to change people, that's (my opinion) wrong, immoral, and incorrect. And there is no real right or wrong. Because there is no morality, because there is no normal, or same thing. Because the only "constant" is change. So don't live and think for what is. Think for what will be. And think for what "will be" by your own opinion.
Also, you can't prove if a "God" exists. But you can't disprove it either. The same applies with telepathy. It's one of those annoying things scientist can't explain. And praying does nothing. God IS spiritual, because he isn't a physical being, so he has no connection to anything with a physical form. He's like your imaginary friend. And he can create hope. But God's for those who can't make something for themselves. They have to "hope" it'll come. Instead of earning it. Just my opinion.
Why'd you care what TJ says. Stick to your own opinion, and then you should live happily, because you're happy in your mind. Which can lead to true genuine pleasure while you're on Earth. I'm an atheist. And I'm happy knowing there is no God, because I feel like I can live my life happily without being judged (except by friends and family). I'm a mature 15 year old with good school grades. Dude, just ignore the idiots (in your opinion). Ans stick to what you want. Unless if you want to explore.
Why'd you care what TJ says. Stick to your own opinion, and then you should live happily, because you're happy in your mind. Which can lead to true genuine pleasure while you're on Earth. I'm an atheist. And I'm happy knowing there is no God, because I feel like I can live my life happily without being judged (except by friends and family). I'm a mature 15 year old with good school grades. Dude, just ignore the idiots (in your opinion). Ans stick to what you want. Unless if you want to explore.
That thing with exposing water to nice words to make them to crystals sounded too good to be true, and after a quick research I found out it was a hoax.
@guitaoist I looked for proof and found none. I found out he was not a scientist according to wikipedia, and that he has been offered 1 million dollars if he can prove this thing.
Anyway I have an open mind about everything, but if it doesnt make sence, I need strong evidence, and there is simply no evidence.
I mean, words only make sence to the one who can read the word. If I write the word "Liar" and "Lover" in swedish, you'd only see ink on paper. Same thing with a droplet of water.
That nihilism=nothing thing is a misnomer really. Nihilism isnt a belief in nothing perse, but it's a reconition that nothing has inherent/intrinsic meaning,or rather there is nothing to show there is inherent meaning in things/the universe. It all points to a projecting of one's thoughts,opinions,desires and needs out in the world, confusing what's behind there eyes for what's in front of their eyes.
did i say that? thought i said i didn't believe atheism is true. that means its my opinion so no argument can refute it. prove it IS true... assuming you think you know what the idea of God actually MEANS to us who've really read about it and felt its presence ...i have yet to meet a skeptic who has read what i have so what authority is that?
You said, "If atheism is true" -- I was just following one of the two paths bifurcating from your reasoning/argument.
I'm quite curious what you have read. I know this may very well be a cheap point, but I once prayed for snow when I was 8. It was April but 10 minutes later it snowed -- to me, this seems to be little more than a coincidence. To be quite honest, I don't see how that "proves" anything. Moreover, proof is for mathematics and mathematics alone.
The experiment you mentioned in the beginning of your video has been proven false. Most of the "facts" in "What the Bleep Do We Know" have also been proven false.
Althou im spiritual like you and support you 100%, even I think im skeptical about some of the things in that movie. However I cant say for sure, since I havent studied those things fully.
However I do agree that the 1 thing "what the bleep" got right was the consciousness causes collapse intepretation. It is indeed the view I and many others (including some scientists) are starting to hold.
Arrogance is just as bad as ignorance, one is the beginning of the other.
Material is energy? Infinity exist? Everything effects everything? OMG who would have believed that! Think of science as a way to decide the predispostions to your concept of reality and this will help you to understand atheism.
You cant just quote others all you want, even more or less randomly without connecting your arguements into something coherent (yes this is my view of what you are saying, you can dismiss it as
whatever you want) i only ask that you take your time to consider what i've written before you exspel another dose of quotes into the same lines. What atheism give syou is not nothing, it's help to understand what you can percieve.
Why do atheists use science as their crutch to their worldview? It's convenience. It allows them to seem or feel superior to anyone who explores the metaphysical, the psychadelic experience and anything that doesn't fit into their neat little formulaic worldview "reality" by saying "my reality is backed up by science and PROOF". It's a simplistic view (lazy mind), at best and ignorant (closed minded), at worst. To many people the world is much more than what is sensed with the physical.
See, when you have no critical filter on what comes into your mind, there's nothing to keep you from believing that Emoto's water labeling wasn't just an art project, or that the meditation 'experiment' in DC wasn't fraudulently manipulated to give positive results. If you just can't help it and need to embrace mystical wackiness, stick with the unprovable claims. Trying to ground religion in science just doesn't work.
Also Emoto let the photographers decide which water molecules should they publish, selecting the most "beautiful forms, also, they took scientists words aout of context.
There is a good video here on youtube explaining some of this and more:
Why offer others a path? If the Amazing Atheist offered a path for people to be led down, wouldn't he just be replacing god with himself. Wouldn't it be better to teach and be taught the realities of this world so that you and I and everyone else can, alone, find our own path rather than to follow? - Cory
A nihilist is a man who judges of the world as it is that it ought not to be, and of the world as it ought to be that it does not exist. According to this view, our existence (action, suffering, willing, feeling) has no meaning: the pathos of 'in vain' is the nihilists' pathos — at the same time, as pathos, an inconsistency on the part of the nihilists. THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION OTHER THAN WHAT I JUST STATED. Stop taking what you want and throwing the rest away
This kid thinks that he reads some astrology, and reads some nietzsche and Jung he knows something...
wow.
What is needed, rather than running away or controlling or suppressing or any other resistance, is understanding fear; that means, watch it, learn about it, come directly into contact with it. We are to learn about fear, not how to escape from it. -Kirshnamurti
Everything you talk about is made up out of fear, cause you fear what you clearly do not understand. You don't know.
You love labeling others as nihilists, don't you. It's not my fault if you can't understand that Kirshnamurti quote, because if you did, you would know it has nothing to do with nihilism. Labeling others is just a fast way to create divisions and separates you from the rest of humanity.. and causes conflict. You think you know something about life? about death? about how the world works?
"I have read all of nietzches... but I'm brainwashed"
brainwashed by nietzsche?? hmm were in different ballparks
seems youre labeling me a "pseudoscience" thinga-muh-dookee... whats that about ? whats pseudo about nietzsche's PERSONAL letters CONFIRMING his ablities?? jesus you haven't read any description of mine and i doubt you "have read all of Nietzsches"
okay pop quiz
1.did nietzsche write My Sister and I?(assuming youve read it)
Kid take your head out of nietzsche's ass for a few seconds.
Science never claims to know the answers... it is much more humbling than that. If scientists don't know, they simply say they don't know and will continue to research. It is much more humbling than your assumptions and speculations you have created in your mind. And stop with the labeling, you don't know me, you don't know what I think. So please put your ego aside. You think cause you read a few philosophers you know somethingHAHA
What are we trying to prove? Atheism - to not believe in deities. Atheism doesn't mean anything. Theres literally no content to it. Its just the default position from birth.
Just because theres a word for people who don't believe in one particular thing, doesn't mean we're asserting anything to be true.
What if there were words for everything that people didnt believe in, aghostists, asoulists, aeasterbunnyists. You can easily see how stupid "if atheism is true" us,
He says athiesm but you can tell he is obviously thinking more of Nihilism. Thus he is referring to the belief of "nothing".
Athiesm LITERALLY means not believing in ZEUS, yes the greek god. The word athiest techniquely shouldnt even be used in theological stances, spritiual debates, etc.. unless Zeus specificly is involved.
You can see how stupid you making an entire comment on that is.
Also I find it ironic that you advocate athiesm as the default position of birth, yet you also like scientific skeptisism and even favorited an objective video.
Even though some studies show people are actually born solipsist and are dooped in life to believe it to be real.
Actually Solipsism is the most logical and rational way to go.
How does it not having a practical place on our every day life make it false or illogical? Astronomy has no implication on my everyday life (who gives a shit about other galaxies), quantum physics also is meaningless in my everday life (who cares about me knowing how molecules act, its not gonna change anything), etc..
@UncannyRicardo How does going around thinking that your mind is the only way to live? Astronomy might not have a direct effect on you right now, but it may affect the future of our species and possibly your kids when and if we expand to other planets, thats why it has practical application. Why you cherry picking things with future goals, why not pick on medical science, something that a huge direct effect on you right now. Thats based on the same methodology as all other science.
I could pick medicine aswell. No there is no evidence to even suggest "we", only I.
Yes but lets say I dont wanna make the best of my time in this IMAGINARY world, what then huh? I could rationally have the right to call every other imaginary person stupid for trying to think that they actually exist and nobody could logically have any counter attack to that.
Science is NOT objective. Everything I know is subjective, including science.
@UncannyRicardo Oh damn you must get really bored debating people who don't really exist but insist they do.
You think science is subjective because you don't know science. Methodological naturalism is the only accurate way of filtering fiction from function by trial and error and the process of elimination. By narrowing down all the possibilities we can and have proven that we are part of a physical existence of matter and energy where EVERYTHING obeys the laws of nature without exception.
In the future? Why the hell do I care about the future if I wont be in it (if this world even exists)?
Stop trying to justify your evidence lacking BELIEF/FAITH. Just because the idea doesnt really affect this reality doesnt mean it gives you any LOGICAL right to believe in it.
NOTHING can be proved to be independent of the mind, NOTHING. Everything you know, you know threw your mind. The idea of objective is not needed.
Actually philosophy questions existence in general. Which is something science completely ignores. Thus how can we understand existence if existence might not even exist? There is no logical evidence to suggest science is in anyway correct, no reason why anyone should believe.
@UncannyRicardo It doesn't fucking matter that if we truly exist or not, the fact is that we are here in this existence at the time, and while we're here we might as well find ways of bettering yourselves to make life better for the rest of the non-exist ant but some how still here peoples of the planet, science IS Objective by definition, it a matter of knowing than mealy believing. You want to debate AronRa on that subject because thats and auto loss for whatever your position is.
@UncannyRicardo Babies til the time where their old enough to think for themselves lack a fundamental idea of what a diety is , and being a baby at one point and time applies to every human to ever exist, meaning that we ALL were atheists at one time. It is impossible to know what a persons beliefs are just by knowing their an atheist. Druids, shamen, babies, budhists, empyricle rationalists or simply some one whos never heard of a god are ALL atheists by definition. The word is meaning less.
Yes we are all born athiest, but more importantly solipsists. Again some studies do imply that babies are born to believing that NOTHING (including other people and objects) exist. And only threw experience do they forget the idea that everything is an illusion and start to BELIEVE the things they see.
@UncannyRicardo Ok this is why Galileo said fuck philosophy I'm gonna do my own thing. Theres a reason why scientists laugh at people who say they have a doctorate in philosophy. YOU CAN't test or demonstrate things in philosophy, their just well thought out ideas and concepts and doesn't add the sum of knowledge at all. They sound good, but scientifically its just bullshit.
You sound like a David Hume or Renee Descartes wannabe. I think there for I am..but I'm not so sure about everythingelse
It's actually the other way around. All of sciences theories and statements are philosophical BULLSHT.
And LOGIC takes the philosophy side, since science turns its back on it.
I dont know about you but I think its better to only have LOGICAL knowledge, then false BS knowledge (science because there is no evidence its even real).
"Even at the kindergarten level, science is defined as a way of learning about the natural world. Natural meaning in accordance to the laws of nature. Nature is further defined as the sum of all forces and phenomenon in the entirety of perceptible reality. Anything that truly exists has properties, and anything that can be objectively verified, measured and tested is therefore Natural."
It's late, so I gotta go to bed. It is the holiday season so I wish you a happy time, but jesus man.
Your original comment had no implication on Ben, so I'll let this go. But just dont post things on this channel that have no real relevence to what he is talking about.
@UncannyRicardo Hes talking about telepathy and other spiritual things which definitely have a relevance to what TheAmazingAtheists position.
Oh and math is objective. 2+2 will always equal 4 in every circumstance no matter your religion, race, creed, political ideology, where or when you exist or whether we exist or not. And that the exact definition of objective is.
That is LOGIC, not science. Yes logic exists everywhere. But if you dont understand the difference between logic and science, then a philosopher will pwn you in every debate.
Because philosophy = logic. Philosophy is based on logic and what it tells us.
I think if God exists then the Deists must have it right from my observation of the state of humanity. In which case people like TJ would not be in any danger of his vengeance. I'm speaking hypothetically of course. Its the only kind of speak about God there can be.
MrGuy1332 3 weeks ago
What's so wrong with being a nihilist? I am, and I'm happy in my meaningless life.
PandaEff 5 months ago 6
@PandaEff you're HAPPY? poser!!!
PufferBluntman 5 months ago
@PufferBluntman It's possible to be happy and to be a nihilist. I can still feel emotion; it requires no faith nor my belief in it for the emotion to exist. I could say "I don't believe in emotions", but that doesn't stop my brain functioning in a way that produces the feelings of happiness or sadness.
PandaEff 5 months ago
@PandaEff yeah, whatever, poser
PufferBluntman 5 months ago
@PufferBluntman What a compelling and well thought out comment.
PandaEff 5 months ago
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@PandaEff "It's possible to be happy and to be a nihilist. I can still feel emotion; it requires no faith nor my belief in it for the emotion to exist. I could say "I don't believe in emotions", but that doesn't stop my brain functioning in a way that produces the feelings of happiness or sadness."
What you said is in and of itself a contradiction to your own belief of Nihilism. Good job.
bigballa22mm 2 weeks ago
As the guy already said below me, it IS being poser if you're simultaneously nihilist yet happy. Happiness presumes you have Comfirmed something in this life, which implies meaning. Which is why I ain't one.
guitaoist 5 months ago
@guitaoist Maybe I'm not then. I only came across this video because I was looking for info on nihilism (I've been accused of being a nihilist a few times by different people so I figured I'd research it a bit; I never know what to say). As a subscriber to AmazingAtheist I thought I'd give this a look to see what this person was saying and how it compared to previous things I'd read etc. I think it's possible to have happiness without meaning though. Why do you think otherwise?
PandaEff 5 months ago
Ok fuck heads. Go to counterorder . com and get a real understanding of nihilism. Until then, go listen to Ario Speedwagon and white wash a fucking fence!
dmented666 7 months ago
Yeah Ill believe the internet more than Nietzsche the most profound writer of all time.know one understood it better than him
guitaoist 7 months ago
That quote by Nietzsche makes him sound like a fucktard, and like he doesn't even understand what nihilism is. "A nihilist is a man who believes that the world as it is, ought NOT to be", uh a nihilist doesn't believe anything ought to do/be anything, because that requires the existence of an objective moral standard which nihilists don't believe in.
Gogargoat 8 months ago
If you read the rest of the passage in will to power you would find that just as your argument implies: nihilists chase their own tail.. He's saying yes, you don't acknowledge anyithing...good job. But the acutual acknowledgment of unackowledgement is a form of agno ledge meant. The rest of the quote "..and 'the world as it OUGHT to be, doesn't exist'. A contradiction." means despite whatever anti standard you put, or claims to having no standard, you're still Attempting..and this is pro-life.
guitaoist 8 months ago
corellation does not = cause
TheMightyP00tis 8 months ago
Before you tell people to read this ore that book you should make yourself familiar with "The Logic of Scientific Research" from the German Philosopher Karl Popper. You can not make "scientific" claims and then state them as "facts" because people can't disproof them. You can't even proof you're theories yourself. But you should give us a way how to falsify you're theories. (Every Scientific theory can be falsified at some points because they relate to some claims, which can be falsified.)
4gnostic 8 months ago
For the record, we science folk don't like living in our 'little world',
the walls of which were built by a thing called evidence, not by our masochistic will to dismiss ourselves as useless monkeys on a dieing piece of rock.
what once was thought to be 'magic' has since been assimilated into the ranks of science. this new ages psuedoscience will either follow suit, or be exposed for what it is.
6hundred3score6 9 months ago
Yes I have evidence if u have the time to read what you hate...it's called the conscious universe by dean radin, cosmos and psyche by Richard tarnas, and evidence for the afterlife by Jeffrey long. That covers scientific evidence for astrology, psi, and what will happen after this body.
guitaoist 9 months ago
@guitaoist appreciate it thanks
6hundred3score6 9 months ago
@guitaoist Why does every other scientist disagree with astrology then? what makes your source right?
pandasftuw 7 months ago
because they have power issues. seriously i havent heard of a single scientists EVER finishing an entire book on astrology, nor known their friends birthdays so they can i dunno actually judge their friends traits. they do "experiments" yet have no actual knowledge of birthcharts, transits, aspects, nor their own moon sign! it is wrought with biasm. james randis "test" specifically is the biggest load of bullshit anyone could come up with. i already have a vid explaining that
guitaoist 7 months ago
@guitaoist Wrong they disagree with it because there is no theory behind and never has or will be. Not that you should even need science to tell you this as its very premise is absurd. I hate whenever delusional people want to remain willifully ignorant they always go for the science is biased excuse to not accept facts
pandasftuw 7 months ago
oh so youve read Cosmos and Psyche by richard tarnas that proves astrologies relevance? because since you must have, otherwise you wouldnt be making claims about its irrelevance, then you probably have the counter argument...what is that? oh wait you havent read a single work. its "above" you. right. so if youre better than it, than prove it. I and richard tarnas already have. read us, then argue, thats the scientific method.
guitaoist 7 months ago
@guitaoist Really so what is the proof you have found in those books, please enlighten me?
pandasftuw 7 months ago
first off i talked already about twins. you dont do homework. second i mentioned a motherfuckin book in my motherfuckin comment. lol grow up and read up.
guitaoist 7 months ago
@guitaoist Just give me one bit of proof from the book then. because I can give you plenty
twins for a start have different personalities different choices ect
pandasftuw 7 months ago
type astrology in my searchbar, i dont have time to give you proof. my vids mention it a hundred times. i never said twins were the same. strawman. i believe every soul is unique though i can mention the dateline twintuition article that you can youtube where twins who knew nothing of each other had similar occupations...while twins who grew up together were more unique, BECAUSE THEY WANTED EVEN MORE TO BE UNIQUE, and "rebelled" against WhateveR the other person did. is my hunch.
guitaoist 7 months ago
@guitaoist if you want to participate in the mass cultural delusion that the sun's apparent position relevant to arbitrarily defined constellations at the time of your birth somehow affects your personality then show some evidence (if the premise was true twins would be the same) or some theory as to why others WITH evidence agaonst this absurd belief should believe this, THERE IS NON IN YOUR VIDEO you also assume atheists are nihilist which is SO untrue
pandasftuw 7 months ago
I hope this is a parody . i really do......how can someone be soooooo ignorant on what they are describing.
Donal277 10 months ago
Tell me where I'm wrong or don't waste precious comment space.
guitaoist 10 months ago
@guitaoist You dont even understand the word atheist for crying out loud. Its an insult that you make a video on anything when you dont understand the thing your discussing.....""If atheism is true, and there is abolutely nothing affecting men, " seriously where did this idea about atheism come from?
Il ask a genuine question - what do you think atheism means and then link it to "atheist dont believe there is nothing affecting men"...i honestly thought you were doing a parody.
Donal277 10 months ago
I'll ask a question too. Why should you be good to your fellow neighbor? I know it's just the decent thing to do but what significance does it hold in the end? Atheists seem to attribute everything to themselves yet they didn't create themselves. You believe in nothing so nothing will come of your life.
guitaoist 10 months ago
@guitaoist
Atheists believe stuff, you are wrong. Atheists belief in the truth. And my mother-love or my ambition to be good to my neighbor fellow etc. are true, because It's easy to convince myself that I have them. I just don't believe in good or good-like power because there is no evidence. If there would be evidence to you're fancy theories, they would for sure have been publicized in scientific papers. Scientists are people with a lot of time and freedom to search for new knowledge.
4gnostic 8 months ago
@guitaoist 1. I asked you a question you could be decent enough to answer. 2 where has my comment gone to ? 3. in answer to your question - why should we be good , its inate in us, solidarity its what kept humans and every other species togehter for millions of years. I would like to see the human species become great. Pretty simple . 4 So you only act kindly cos you are afraid of hell....would you not be so moral if there was none?
5 Again see 1 and answer the question i asked orginally
Donal277 10 months ago
UNO. Atheism means you don't believe in any higher power...yet I believe we as humans ARE a higher power. Dos. I can c ur comment from where I'm standing so what r u talking about. Tres. Boring answer. Four. Straw man if I've ever seen one. I don't believe in hell I believe thte dmt trip is the afterlife I dont believe in Satan or pitchforks. Aheists are more black and white than spiritualists!
guitaoist 10 months ago
@guitaoist Comical in the extreme. You believe in things with no evidence of the link.Athesism is the lack of the belief due to no evidence. Science is evidence based. 400 years ago if people saw a television they would think it were some higher power, paronormal universe, god etc. Teleopathy or anything in that domain doesnt imply a god or afterlife, just a realm we know little about yet. In 400 years it could well be as understand as other aspects of science. Oh and you found 3 boring..so what
Donal277 10 months ago
That means you don't lov your mother, if your concept of validity is mere physical evidence. Smoke dmt and you'll see the evidence yourself. how can I prove a place to you that I can't hand you except with a peace pipe? I can't and thats nobody's fault. I agree telepathy doesn't imply an afterlife. But I disagree that you think anything I say will prove it so...do things for yourself. I'm not your mommy
guitaoist 10 months ago
@guitaoist Could you be anymore condescending. I am well aware of the feelings one has when smoking dmt. How is that in anyway related to love. So you think the release of a naturally occuring hormone in the brains implies a higher power of life?Yes indeed you arent my mommy. Your a man wasting his brain based on what you have said here and on the video. Again nothing you say can prove everything - please try to understand the concept of evidence. Beliefs mean nothing. Yes im a scientist.
Donal277 10 months ago
You aren't aware of anything you haven't done ie dmt. don't say you're a scientist without experimenting yourself. it makes sense how u don't understand the concept Carl Sagan himself wrote in the film Contact concerning faith vs physical evidence for God. Once you've read the Field, the Conscious Universe, Cosmos and Psyche, Emersons Essays, Nietzsches claims to telekinesis in my top hit vid, then we can begin at the same point or even ballpark. Scientist or no.
guitaoist 10 months ago
@guitaoist Your talking on one part of a pseudoscience with no method to study or understand it yet. That firstly should be enough not to make claims regardin what it is. It could as easily be a figment of strong dreaming due to dmt which drives dreaming. Yet on this subject we know nothing about you want to go and make a lovely hail mary jump into "this is an afterlife/ higher power whatever." Understand the principles of science.Not knowing doesnt mean "i can decide what it means myself"......
Donal277 10 months ago
Oh so you haven't read those. Just making sure. And yes I can hear you saying you don't know what dmt does. Well done there's a book with words inside called dmt spirit molecule. That is science. You haven't even said anything yet. You just say 'you're wrong' and make a claim about my references, at least I have them!
guitaoist 10 months ago
@guitaoist no a book with spirit molecule is not science. Stop claiming it is. Its deeply offending to the area that you mix up a belief wit peer reviewed evidence. Whatever scientific basis there may be to deep sleep and what we can learn from it your claims make it out to be a joke. Nah i didnt say your wrong.....nice misquote. Maybe re read a comment again.....
Donal277 10 months ago
right your dyslexic or cant read so y bother, bout to block you if u put ur shit comments up with no purpose. but love to keep this crap up to show the world your idiocy and blatant anti reading campaign.
guitaoist 10 months ago
@guitaoist Thanks again for another personal slur. Yes block me. Sure thats what science is all about lol. Sure maybe delete my comments too so more people will be fooled by this nonsense. Not that you can stop them reading the top rated comments. Anti reading? Ya keep believing that a gas giant controls your life cos a book says it. There are books on goblins and pixies too. You are showing the world - yes thats why the comments is voted red and the highest comments take the video apart
Donal277 10 months ago
guitaoist, you're just a pussy. You're afraid of dying.
A pathetic man child who never stopped believing in fairy tales and magic.
MidMASS2 10 months ago
sounds like you havent done dmt, im less scared of dying than you are BECAUSE i know there is a medium, NOT because im a dumb lazy ignorant fuk who hasnt yet seen the light of knowledge AS spiritual & who watches fat atheists who think theyve got it all figured out. but wait you probably are a fat atheist who hasnt done dmt or read a single full nietzsche work. am i right or am i right
guitaoist 10 months ago
@guitaoist dmt as in dimethyltryptamine? So you're druggie too... Figures.
I just read your profile, and it's just amazing how fucked up you are. You're desperate to adopt any pseudo-philosophies and fairy tales. You're the one who thinks that you have some greater knowledge.
I'm a realist, you're a nutcase.
MidMASS2 10 months ago
Your as dumb as they cum. Dmt is in your brain. So every night you dream you're a druggie then too genius. Read up 'realist'. Someone sounds like a pussy to me. Read dmt spirit molecule, read cosmos and psyche, read the field, read the conscious universe, read something! Lest I talk to a blind man about colors.
guitaoist 10 months ago
Nicely said man
2012singularity2012 11 months ago
I see no response from TJ. Did he have one? Perhaps he couldn't grasp a way to respond to a person far smarter than himself. All his reply videos are made out to imbeciles.That's a funny ego trip. Well, it doesn't really matter.
Absinthium 11 months ago
@Absinthium This fucktard is in no way smarter than TJ.
MidMASS2 10 months ago
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Bloolover08 11 months ago
Yes the most lost need the most help.
guitaoist 11 months ago
TELEPATHY WAS PROVEN REAL? HOLY SHIT GUYS LETS STARE AT SOME FUCKING GOATS!
dabaron332 11 months ago
Once again the product of media has spoiled the real reality..peace out bore
guitaoist 11 months ago
@guitaoist i havent even seen that movie, but you're a dumbass.
dabaron332 11 months ago
meneither, shittard
guitaoist 11 months ago
Props to talking against the atheist. But you can't think you've figured it all out without actually thinking things through. That's actually why there's so many interpretations of god, or why there's so many religions. You can't make assumptions so quick, don't be so ignorant.
Shad12Dash 1 year ago
Read the field, you cant make assumptions so quick, don't be so ignorant .
guitaoist 11 months ago
You're a fucking faggot. End your existence ASAP.
TheXionic 1 year ago
r u that obvious guy who worships dark things and nothing of positivity?
guitaoist 1 year ago
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TheXionic 1 year ago
and you should be sterilized. have fun with your hellokitty dolls
guitaoist 1 year ago
@guitaoist Sterilized? It's amusing you say that, when if you reproduced(like anyone would touch you, you filthy repulsing shit) you would infact be contaminated humanity's gene pool, you fucking cocksucker. Also I accidently deleted that comment which I state you are a piece of shit, because, you are one.
TheXionic 1 year ago
oh you got me there. i guess i have nothing to say now since you got me there. good job getting me there. now goodbye virgin
guitaoist 1 year ago
@guitaoist Funny, as chances are you've never touched a women outside your own family. Even then, I doubt they aren't revolted by the distorted form of abomination that you call yourself a 'human'.
TheXionic 1 year ago
TAA is a realist not a nihilist.
TheAmazingAtheism 1 year ago
denying facts isnt realist
guitaoist 1 year ago
Atheism is NOT the belief that there is nothing affecting man; it is the DISbelief that there is a God: Nothing more. Anything else tacked on to an Atheist's worldview is beside the point. I am an atheist, and I also believe in abortion: does that inevitably necessitate that all other atheists must believe in abortion as well? No. It simply demonstrates that I am an individual who does not believe in a God (an atheist), who also happens to hold other opinions.
resurgam44 1 year ago
These are just random patterns, and I hope you realize an ugly pattern is highly subjective. And saying love, makes a diamond pattern? So what, that is circumstantial evidence.
guppyfighter 1 year ago
& ur a circumstantial guppy if thats youre conclusion
guitaoist 1 year ago
@guitaoist
You used hoaxes to prove a point.
guppyfighter 1 year ago
emoto a hoax? prove it.
guitaoist 1 year ago
@guitaoist
Emoto does believe this is true, but he has never been able to prove it under controlled conditions. It would be very simple - mark two bottles, freeze them, take the labels off and ask him which one said 'peace' and which one said 'war'. He can't do it. He'd be eligible for a million bucks if he could.
guppyfighter 1 year ago
firstly randi isnt paying anyone else a million unless ur talking about something else. otherly, how do youknow emoto believes his own experiments arent true..what source is that from?
guitaoist 1 year ago
the amazing athiest makes hate videos to attract mainly young boys... Taking TJ seriously is a feckless exercise and waste of time,,,
uaboob 1 year ago
Wow, this video just...
Nevermind.
EuroPowa 1 year ago
"If anyone can show me one example in the history of the world of a single psychic who has been able to prove, under reasonable experimental conditions that they are able to read minds... I will give you my piano, one of my legs, and my wife."
-Tim Minchin
LikeALeadZeppelin 1 year ago
tell him to call me, im single
guitaoist 1 year ago
@guitaoist I would date him.
LikeALeadZeppelin 1 year ago
This is rubbish.
Is AIDS God? Is Malaria God?
macwild1234 1 year ago
no ur mac is tho
guitaoist 1 year ago
@guitaoist
?
macwild1234 1 year ago
just as ridiculous as claim as urs is all
guitaoist 1 year ago
Last thing. An opinion is like an asshole. Everyone's got one. So don't get upset if someone's is different to yours. Just stick to what you believe and know. Don't try to change people, that's (my opinion) wrong, immoral, and incorrect. And there is no real right or wrong. Because there is no morality, because there is no normal, or same thing. Because the only "constant" is change. So don't live and think for what is. Think for what will be. And think for what "will be" by your own opinion.
HarryIsTheGamingGeek 1 year ago
Also, you can't prove if a "God" exists. But you can't disprove it either. The same applies with telepathy. It's one of those annoying things scientist can't explain. And praying does nothing. God IS spiritual, because he isn't a physical being, so he has no connection to anything with a physical form. He's like your imaginary friend. And he can create hope. But God's for those who can't make something for themselves. They have to "hope" it'll come. Instead of earning it. Just my opinion.
HarryIsTheGamingGeek 1 year ago
Why'd you care what TJ says. Stick to your own opinion, and then you should live happily, because you're happy in your mind. Which can lead to true genuine pleasure while you're on Earth. I'm an atheist. And I'm happy knowing there is no God, because I feel like I can live my life happily without being judged (except by friends and family). I'm a mature 15 year old with good school grades. Dude, just ignore the idiots (in your opinion). Ans stick to what you want. Unless if you want to explore.
HarryIsTheGamingGeek 1 year ago 3
another thing, another thing, another thing
guitaoist 1 year ago
Then y do u care?
guitaoist 10 months ago
@guitaoist I don't, and my comment came 6 months ago dude!
HarryIsTheGamingGeek 10 months ago
@HarryIsTheGamingGeek yeah when I was 15 I thought I knew wtf I was talking about too.
generalmajorfoe 9 months ago
@generalmajorfoe Who gives a shit about my age? Try not to judge by age, but instead intelligence, and knowledge.
HarryIsTheGamingGeek 9 months ago
@HarryIsTheGamingGeek i don't 'give a shit about' anything to do with you. try not to jump to conclusions, but instead, grow up.
generalmajorfoe 9 months ago
Why'd you care what TJ says. Stick to your own opinion, and then you should live happily, because you're happy in your mind. Which can lead to true genuine pleasure while you're on Earth. I'm an atheist. And I'm happy knowing there is no God, because I feel like I can live my life happily without being judged (except by friends and family). I'm a mature 15 year old with good school grades. Dude, just ignore the idiots (in your opinion). Ans stick to what you want. Unless if you want to explore.
HarryIsTheGamingGeek 1 year ago
telepathy isnt abstract at all but very solid, we have a great understanding of it.. just not a full one.
guitaoist 1 year ago
That thing with exposing water to nice words to make them to crystals sounded too good to be true, and after a quick research I found out it was a hoax.
tompatomp 1 year ago
quick google?
how bout a library
guitaoist 1 year ago
@guitaoist I looked for proof and found none. I found out he was not a scientist according to wikipedia, and that he has been offered 1 million dollars if he can prove this thing.
Anyway I have an open mind about everything, but if it doesnt make sence, I need strong evidence, and there is simply no evidence.
I mean, words only make sence to the one who can read the word. If I write the word "Liar" and "Lover" in swedish, you'd only see ink on paper. Same thing with a droplet of water.
tompatomp 1 year ago
That nihilism=nothing thing is a misnomer really. Nihilism isnt a belief in nothing perse, but it's a reconition that nothing has inherent/intrinsic meaning,or rather there is nothing to show there is inherent meaning in things/the universe. It all points to a projecting of one's thoughts,opinions,desires and needs out in the world, confusing what's behind there eyes for what's in front of their eyes.
dstewart28 1 year ago
Saying atheism is not true is, literally, a meaningless statement.
as atheism is the proposition that a notion is not true -- follow my logic and you'd end up having to prove a negative. Enjoy.
braydenbeautiful 1 year ago
did i say that? thought i said i didn't believe atheism is true. that means its my opinion so no argument can refute it. prove it IS true... assuming you think you know what the idea of God actually MEANS to us who've really read about it and felt its presence ...i have yet to meet a skeptic who has read what i have so what authority is that?
guitaoist 1 year ago
@guitaoist
You'll (excuse my typo)
You said, "If atheism is true" -- I was just following one of the two paths bifurcating from your reasoning/argument.
I'm quite curious what you have read. I know this may very well be a cheap point, but I once prayed for snow when I was 8. It was April but 10 minutes later it snowed -- to me, this seems to be little more than a coincidence. To be quite honest, I don't see how that "proves" anything. Moreover, proof is for mathematics and mathematics alone.
braydenbeautiful 1 year ago
totally agree, just type library in my uploads bar i have a couple updates.
guitaoist 1 year ago
If you think that staring at the water with an emotion makes the water change to that emotion you are crazy and that is all there is to it.
NihilismNothing 1 year ago
htink waht? i dont THINK anything, its a fucking book with proof you ignorant nihilist zombie tard
guitaoist 1 year ago
The experiment you mentioned in the beginning of your video has been proven false. Most of the "facts" in "What the Bleep Do We Know" have also been proven false.
birdmanblues34 1 year ago
where?
guitaoist 1 year ago
@guitaoist
Althou im spiritual like you and support you 100%, even I think im skeptical about some of the things in that movie. However I cant say for sure, since I havent studied those things fully.
However I do agree that the 1 thing "what the bleep" got right was the consciousness causes collapse intepretation. It is indeed the view I and many others (including some scientists) are starting to hold.
UncannyRicardo 1 year ago
@guitaoist
If you just google "What the Bleep skeptic" you'll get a ton of sites that explain. Trust me, I was really let down when I heard about it.
birdmanblues34 1 year ago
I can never decide which of your videos I like best brother. Thank you for all the blessings Guitaoist.
achozenshaman 1 year ago
You are insane.
geno2k3 1 year ago
yeah scientific evidence is cwayzee
guitaoist 1 year ago
What are you talking about? You are freaking insane.
geno2k3 1 year ago
So . . . . you're nuts.
MikoWilson 1 year ago
so.. you must be another nihilist who doesnt yet know he's a nihilist?
guitaoist 1 year ago
Arrogance is just as bad as ignorance, one is the beginning of the other.
Material is energy? Infinity exist? Everything effects everything? OMG who would have believed that! Think of science as a way to decide the predispostions to your concept of reality and this will help you to understand atheism.
You cant just quote others all you want, even more or less randomly without connecting your arguements into something coherent (yes this is my view of what you are saying, you can dismiss it as
lassek85 1 year ago
@lassek85
whatever you want) i only ask that you take your time to consider what i've written before you exspel another dose of quotes into the same lines. What atheism give syou is not nothing, it's help to understand what you can percieve.
lassek85 1 year ago
Why do atheists use science as their crutch to their worldview? It's convenience. It allows them to seem or feel superior to anyone who explores the metaphysical, the psychadelic experience and anything that doesn't fit into their neat little formulaic worldview "reality" by saying "my reality is backed up by science and PROOF". It's a simplistic view (lazy mind), at best and ignorant (closed minded), at worst. To many people the world is much more than what is sensed with the physical.
Kostly 1 year ago
i'm in love with you.
musiclawton 1 year ago
See, when you have no critical filter on what comes into your mind, there's nothing to keep you from believing that Emoto's water labeling wasn't just an art project, or that the meditation 'experiment' in DC wasn't fraudulently manipulated to give positive results. If you just can't help it and need to embrace mystical wackiness, stick with the unprovable claims. Trying to ground religion in science just doesn't work.
emotikana 1 year ago
you'r making no sence
Anarchymonkey293 1 year ago
what does affect mean to you? i meant psychic affect, nimrod, not physical wow get back to me when youre up here.
guitaoist 1 year ago
Also Emoto let the photographers decide which water molecules should they publish, selecting the most "beautiful forms, also, they took scientists words aout of context.
There is a good video here on youtube explaining some of this and more:
Debunked! - What the Bleep Do We Know?
esk89ld 1 year ago
Why offer others a path? If the Amazing Atheist offered a path for people to be led down, wouldn't he just be replacing god with himself. Wouldn't it be better to teach and be taught the realities of this world so that you and I and everyone else can, alone, find our own path rather than to follow? - Cory
SLAUGHTERFILM 2 years ago
I like how you said AMAAAZING ATHEIST so sarcastically. @ 2:25 Guitaoism? This must be a new religion LOL.
109740ewh 2 years ago
Woooow!
corapika 2 years ago
A nihilist is a man who judges of the world as it is that it ought not to be, and of the world as it ought to be that it does not exist. According to this view, our existence (action, suffering, willing, feeling) has no meaning: the pathos of 'in vain' is the nihilists' pathos — at the same time, as pathos, an inconsistency on the part of the nihilists. THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION OTHER THAN WHAT I JUST STATED. Stop taking what you want and throwing the rest away
D1ATUS 2 years ago
No.
BackUpBrotha 2 years ago
thank goodness for your perfect antidote to the annoyingaetheist. You are giving him a helping hand and not OWNing, good job.
outled 2 years ago
wow man he's smart i got lost at 0:00 seconds o.o
MrChavez24 2 years ago
Fuck TheAmazingAtheist dude i don't think he has his facts fight i hope he saw your video
MegaMikecheck 2 years ago
This kid thinks that he reads some astrology, and reads some nietzsche and Jung he knows something...
wow.
What is needed, rather than running away or controlling or suppressing or any other resistance, is understanding fear; that means, watch it, learn about it, come directly into contact with it. We are to learn about fear, not how to escape from it. -Kirshnamurti
Everything you talk about is made up out of fear, cause you fear what you clearly do not understand. You don't know.
Imgoing2LoveYou 2 years ago
@Imgoing2LoveYou
whos running? i dont understand what? that the world doesnt mean anything? thats what im failing to grasp?
later nihilist,
guitaoist 2 years ago
You love labeling others as nihilists, don't you. It's not my fault if you can't understand that Kirshnamurti quote, because if you did, you would know it has nothing to do with nihilism. Labeling others is just a fast way to create divisions and separates you from the rest of humanity.. and causes conflict. You think you know something about life? about death? about how the world works?
"Only a fool deals in absolutes"
Imgoing2LoveYou 2 years ago
i love labeling atheists as nihilists because they beleive science gives them value, and nothing is of value unless taken spiritually/meaningfully.
heres' a quote from the highest of the spiritual: "Science only describes things, not explains them" nietzsche
guitaoist 2 years ago
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Imgoing2LoveYou 2 years ago
And I am not atheist or do I believe in nihilism. Get over your ego and stop trying to label others.
Imgoing2LoveYou 2 years ago
"I have read all of nietzches... but I'm brainwashed"
brainwashed by nietzsche?? hmm were in different ballparks
seems youre labeling me a "pseudoscience" thinga-muh-dookee... whats that about ? whats pseudo about nietzsche's PERSONAL letters CONFIRMING his ablities?? jesus you haven't read any description of mine and i doubt you "have read all of Nietzsches"
okay pop quiz
1.did nietzsche write My Sister and I?(assuming youve read it)
2. did he affirm nihilism?where
3. why r STORMS HIS DANGER
guitaoist 2 years ago
Kid take your head out of nietzsche's ass for a few seconds.
Science never claims to know the answers... it is much more humbling than that. If scientists don't know, they simply say they don't know and will continue to research. It is much more humbling than your assumptions and speculations you have created in your mind. And stop with the labeling, you don't know me, you don't know what I think. So please put your ego aside. You think cause you read a few philosophers you know somethingHAHA
Imgoing2LoveYou 2 years ago
Another interesting video. Thanks Guitaoist
archie1877 2 years ago
"if atheism is true"
What are we trying to prove? Atheism - to not believe in deities. Atheism doesn't mean anything. Theres literally no content to it. Its just the default position from birth.
Just because theres a word for people who don't believe in one particular thing, doesn't mean we're asserting anything to be true.
What if there were words for everything that people didnt believe in, aghostists, asoulists, aeasterbunnyists. You can easily see how stupid "if atheism is true" us,
CelticAlphabet 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
He says athiesm but you can tell he is obviously thinking more of Nihilism. Thus he is referring to the belief of "nothing".
Athiesm LITERALLY means not believing in ZEUS, yes the greek god. The word athiest techniquely shouldnt even be used in theological stances, spritiual debates, etc.. unless Zeus specificly is involved.
You can see how stupid you making an entire comment on that is.
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@UncannyRicardo The modern word atheist means to not believe in dieties smart ass.
CelticAlphabet 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
Yea but your whole comment was just about that one statement that was he meant it in a metaphorical way, not a literal one.
So if your gonna take his quote literal, so will I.
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
Smart ass? Again just look at your comment, cause thats exactly what you were trying to act like.
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
Also I find it ironic that you advocate athiesm as the default position of birth, yet you also like scientific skeptisism and even favorited an objective video.
Even though some studies show people are actually born solipsist and are dooped in life to believe it to be real.
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@UncannyRicardo Solipsist is illogical position. Because even if it is true it doesn't have practical application to what we call everyday life.
Objective means independent of the mind, meaning we can prove it to be true whether you want to believe it or not, your opinion is not needed.
Science doesn't do philosophy, because mere thinking about concepts like existence doesn't help us understand existence.
Only testing and demonstrating is the only objective way to find truths here.
CelticAlphabet 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
Actually Solipsism is the most logical and rational way to go.
How does it not having a practical place on our every day life make it false or illogical? Astronomy has no implication on my everyday life (who gives a shit about other galaxies), quantum physics also is meaningless in my everday life (who cares about me knowing how molecules act, its not gonna change anything), etc..
cont...
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@UncannyRicardo How does going around thinking that your mind is the only way to live? Astronomy might not have a direct effect on you right now, but it may affect the future of our species and possibly your kids when and if we expand to other planets, thats why it has practical application. Why you cherry picking things with future goals, why not pick on medical science, something that a huge direct effect on you right now. Thats based on the same methodology as all other science.
CelticAlphabet 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
I could pick medicine aswell. No there is no evidence to even suggest "we", only I.
Yes but lets say I dont wanna make the best of my time in this IMAGINARY world, what then huh? I could rationally have the right to call every other imaginary person stupid for trying to think that they actually exist and nobody could logically have any counter attack to that.
Science is NOT objective. Everything I know is subjective, including science.
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@UncannyRicardo Oh damn you must get really bored debating people who don't really exist but insist they do.
You think science is subjective because you don't know science. Methodological naturalism is the only accurate way of filtering fiction from function by trial and error and the process of elimination. By narrowing down all the possibilities we can and have proven that we are part of a physical existence of matter and energy where EVERYTHING obeys the laws of nature without exception.
CelticAlphabet 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
HOLY CRAP, and I actually thought you might be SOMEWHAT knowledgable on this stuff.
I think I know the scientific method Celtic, but Im afraid I cant say the same for you in philosophy.
I suggest you look into Immanuel Kant, ontology, solipsism, and a few others.
Everything you just said is exactly what I would expect someone with little to no knowledge on this subject to say.
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
In the future? Why the hell do I care about the future if I wont be in it (if this world even exists)?
Stop trying to justify your evidence lacking BELIEF/FAITH. Just because the idea doesnt really affect this reality doesnt mean it gives you any LOGICAL right to believe in it.
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
NOTHING can be proved to be independent of the mind, NOTHING. Everything you know, you know threw your mind. The idea of objective is not needed.
Actually philosophy questions existence in general. Which is something science completely ignores. Thus how can we understand existence if existence might not even exist? There is no logical evidence to suggest science is in anyway correct, no reason why anyone should believe.
Its all up to opinion.
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@UncannyRicardo It doesn't fucking matter that if we truly exist or not, the fact is that we are here in this existence at the time, and while we're here we might as well find ways of bettering yourselves to make life better for the rest of the non-exist ant but some how still here peoples of the planet, science IS Objective by definition, it a matter of knowing than mealy believing. You want to debate AronRa on that subject because thats and auto loss for whatever your position is.
CelticAlphabet 2 years ago
@UncannyRicardo Babies til the time where their old enough to think for themselves lack a fundamental idea of what a diety is , and being a baby at one point and time applies to every human to ever exist, meaning that we ALL were atheists at one time. It is impossible to know what a persons beliefs are just by knowing their an atheist. Druids, shamen, babies, budhists, empyricle rationalists or simply some one whos never heard of a god are ALL atheists by definition. The word is meaning less.
CelticAlphabet 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
Yes we are all born athiest, but more importantly solipsists. Again some studies do imply that babies are born to believing that NOTHING (including other people and objects) exist. And only threw experience do they forget the idea that everything is an illusion and start to BELIEVE the things they see.
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@UncannyRicardo Ok this is why Galileo said fuck philosophy I'm gonna do my own thing. Theres a reason why scientists laugh at people who say they have a doctorate in philosophy. YOU CAN't test or demonstrate things in philosophy, their just well thought out ideas and concepts and doesn't add the sum of knowledge at all. They sound good, but scientifically its just bullshit.
You sound like a David Hume or Renee Descartes wannabe. I think there for I am..but I'm not so sure about everythingelse
CelticAlphabet 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
It's actually the other way around. All of sciences theories and statements are philosophical BULLSHT.
And LOGIC takes the philosophy side, since science turns its back on it.
I dont know about you but I think its better to only have LOGICAL knowledge, then false BS knowledge (science because there is no evidence its even real).
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
"Even at the kindergarten level, science is defined as a way of learning about the natural world. Natural meaning in accordance to the laws of nature. Nature is further defined as the sum of all forces and phenomenon in the entirety of perceptible reality. Anything that truly exists has properties, and anything that can be objectively verified, measured and tested is therefore Natural."
-AronRa 12th FFOC
You lose.
CelticAlphabet 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
At your quote: LOL
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
It's late, so I gotta go to bed. It is the holiday season so I wish you a happy time, but jesus man.
Your original comment had no implication on Ben, so I'll let this go. But just dont post things on this channel that have no real relevence to what he is talking about.
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@UncannyRicardo Hes talking about telepathy and other spiritual things which definitely have a relevance to what TheAmazingAtheists position.
Oh and math is objective. 2+2 will always equal 4 in every circumstance no matter your religion, race, creed, political ideology, where or when you exist or whether we exist or not. And that the exact definition of objective is.
CelticAlphabet 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
Yes but first comment didnt have any relevance.
That is LOGIC, not science. Yes logic exists everywhere. But if you dont understand the difference between logic and science, then a philosopher will pwn you in every debate.
Because philosophy = logic. Philosophy is based on logic and what it tells us.
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
@UncannyRicardo Merrry Christmas and Happy New year, hope all is well for you. G'night too.
CelticAlphabet 2 years ago
@CelticAlphabet
But yea lets just leave it at that since our discussion doesn't have anything to do with this video and is just taking space.
Merry Christmas
UncannyRicardo 2 years ago
what do you think abotu richard dawkins?
rick4318 2 years ago
i enjoy but find his spiritual side also lacking, science